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How a massage turns out can sometimes owe it origin to the pre-massage shower. When I arrived at Phetboy last Saturday, the guy I picked happened to be in shop. He was new and from Myanmar with just about no English save yes and now. But we quickly became acquainted in the few minutes under the shower head and that set the tone for the next 55 minutes. He’s now on my top three list from that shop. I love international relations. 🙂

While making the circuit of Lumpinee Park the other evening, the new Dusit Thani caught my eye. It’s indeed a great addition to skyline of Silom. Authorities are also improving all paved roads and walkways in the park. The resurfacing should be completed in time for high season.

Stopped by the new bar shortly after 9p.m. I chose a table (Semicircular banquet type that can sit four comfortably). the waiter (one of three) gave me a menu that offered a good selection of beers and I selected an Asahi (150, same as local brew prices). When he put by bill in cup he also deliver small bowl of chips. There were two customers at bar and four young Asian guys at another table. it wasn’t long before waiter started conversation with usual questions. Then asked me if he could sit with me, confirming suspicion that this was indeed a host bar. I declined tbh because I knew I wasn’t interested and was there on an information gathering mission. The other waiters also stopped by but I was busy on my phone. There was local pop music on sound system, not at an obnoxious level that would inhibit conversation but still a bit annoying to old man like myself. The manager who was teaching bartenders to use register is a farang. And on the subject of bartenders, there are two and I believe that’s where the talent is. That’s where I’d sit on any future visit.

My vacation attitude exactly , that's the difference between vacation and real life and why we need a break from time to time .It's after all why we see " breakfast all day" plastered in many restaurants that will be me. Although men is much preferable to a boy . It comes from good heart , it's my way of reducing unemployment and spreading world's wealth more evenly.

it's why I always advise go and check for yourself as often recommendations are not working for us way they were presented. One guy's hero may be at best also run for the next guy

I agree with Vinapu need to try and keep a focus, I loved Tawan for many years in its former larger premises and also current location and checked regularly when last in Bangkok in March, always hopeful when I noticed someone had maybe entered the sadly closed bar at that time that it might re open during my stay - sadly didn't! I am back in Bangkok next month after an initial week in Pattaya and will certainly check it out and feedback with my humble opinion to anyone interested on this board

TRIP REPORT SUNDAY IN PATTAYA No rain this afternoon. Yesterday it was raining almost all day and I was getting so bored. But today it looks fine! So after lunch it was time to relax at the beach. Off course in the "gay area", just after the public toilets. The good thing about being in holiday: not having to do anything. Before I knew it, it was time already to head back to the Agate hotel for shower and get ready for evening-program. First dinner at Dick's Cafe and after some drinks at Meeting Point bar. From there you can easily check out the massage boys sitting in front of Foxy Smile, Pattaya #1 Massage and even Soda Massage. And decide on your favorite boy whike enjoying a drink and the friendliness of the bar staff and the white cat "Latte". The staff of Meeting Point are in close contact with the massage boys at Foxy and Pattaya #1, so if there is any boy there you like the bar staff is happy to go to your boy of choice and invite him to sit with you for a drink before you decide on a massage. I decided to go check out the show at M2M, which was very entertaining. The cabaret boys are eyecandy, the ladyboys know how to put on a show. And lipsyncing is in most of the act good and much better than most places in Thailand. The show starts at 22h30 and lasts till after midnight. I did had my eyes on one of the massage guys at Foxy Smile, but that place was already closed when I passed it after the M2M show. So I went to the app. Found a hot Cambodian guy with the exact amount of musle I like, working at Toyboy but living in Jomtien complex. He was off and sitting in a bar drinking. Was was willing to join me in my hotel room for 1500baht, saving me the off fee of when I would have picked him up from Toyboy. So my night did have a happy end after all...

I am seen in company of guys in restaurants, bars, aircraft, buses, trains and other social situations. If someone stares I figure they’re jealous—especially when I see the women they’re with.

Hanoiing if you can’t, as the trip will have been pho nothing.

Remember, you're on holiday so you should do what you feel for. Don't live by the idea in Thailand you need to have sex with a boy everyday. Of course for many of us Thailand is the place where more sex happens than probably at home. But still there should be no "obligation" to anything in your mind. While some in this forum will find it a day wasted when not having a boy, I think there is absolutely no need to do it every day. You should do it whenever you feel like it. For me, the first few days in Thailand I have boys every day. But after that, it changed to maybe every other day. What is this obsession with "need to be horny and have sex everyday"? Off course pills and other stuff are good for when you really have libido problems. But not for when sometimes there is a day you don't feel horny. I think it's more natural to sometimes not be horny and don't wanna have sex than be horny and have sex multiple times a day, everyday. While on the other hand there is absolutely nothing wrong with our forum members who do have multiple boys each day in Thailand during their whole stay. But just wanna say there is nothing wrong if you don't.

“Cute” is in the eye of the beholder. Did not find any of them unattractive. As a noted authority on the matter I believe would say: go and see for yourself; It only takes one.

welcome addition of another budget hotel in the area. Very high budget though as I see rooms advertising for 13000 baht or so.

Or ask someone else for assistance in the matter. 😊

Having had an unsatisfactory experience with a guy at Arena in the afternoon I was surprised to see him with a customer at breakfast at the Meridien the following morning! Presumably they had had a better experience the previous evening. Different strokes etc.....

that's what I think about British in Pattaya , specially in straight areas . And no, I'm not Russian and not trying to get back at you because you are from UK. I find Russians rather keeping to themselves and that applies everywhere they travel. I think it may be lingering communist legacy of considering every foreigner and everybody talking to foreigner suspect.

Maybe not advisable in every hotel bar in Soi bukhao though 😁😉

I live alone at home in the UK, but on holiday I hate to eat alone. Whichever boy is with me when I feel hungry I invite to eat with me, be it breakfast, an afternoon snack or evening meal. This recent holiday I was arranging short-times at 3pm and 6pm (more or less) and there would be competition amongst my regulars for the 6pm slot precisely because I would want to eat afterwards. In terms of overnights, mostly (but not always) my BF, breakfast was a must for both of us. For half my stay, my hotel is the Queen Victoria in the heart of Soi 6, where I have stayed for the last ten years. I used to be the only guy in there with money boy companions, but occasionally now I have seen one or two others. No problems from the staff who recognise a few now and happily chat and banter with them. None of the other customers have ever said anything, or if they have then they have kept it to themselves. More recently the other half of my stay has been in the Zing, in Jomtien Complex, a more recognisably gay-friendly hotel. Not that I use their restaurant much (reminds me of the canteen at my old school), instead I take my friends to whatever bistro or restaurant I fancy. Again, never an issue with anyone. Even when some of my boys are only breaking 20, and I am now 70. So my advice is, if you want a boy companion at your breakfast table, just do it and enjoy it!

I think it was during Songkran 2 years ago that I suffered a medical incident and had to take myself to hospital. I had an over - filled bladder which had to be drained, add I could not piss at all. The doctor told me I had an enlarged prostate and gave me some tablets called Tamsulosin They solved the problem but had 2 unfortunate side-effects; I stopped feeling horny and although I could orgasm, it was nowhere near as intense add before. Also, often I didn't produce any cum at all. I've been a hugely horny bastard all of my life - I put that down to my upbringing in Japan - and to suddenly lack the desire was a real shock. (Although to be honest, at times I thought it was a relief from being constantly at the beck and call of my cock; now I could get on and do other things instead of thinking about sex.) So I did what guys love to do - watch some of my favourite Asian porn. And that solved the problem. I guess it's like the bar guys who watch porn to get hard before the show, or some of my offs who watch it while we're having sex. (I don't have a problem with that). While I'm on holiday I try to stick to my twice a day sex routine - the opportunity is too good to waste. (I have less sex when I'm home). If I find I'm a little tired late at night, I'll just look at some of my favourite pics, get hard and then take it from there. As I've become accustomed to Tamsulosin my libido has returned and I'm now horny as ever. I still enjoy porn but not just to get horny.

My first trip to Pattaya. It was a very short trip and due to the buddhist holiday on 17th Oct, none of the bars in jomtien were open. So I had no opportunity to visit any of them cos I'm going to BKK next. Just my impression of the few bars I been too from worst to best. I really like to watch the bar shows so ranking is influenced by that 🤭 5) Winner - things started out alright and the prices were cheap. The boys were on the twinkish side. The place was almost empty when I was there. Bought 2 drinks for 2 different boys. One of the boys wanted another drink and I said no. He left to join another table and they bought him another drink. When I was settling the bill, I noticed I was charged for 2 drinks for the boy that went away. The boy clarified to the cashier that his second drink should be charged to the other table but the cashier was trying to make it seems to be my fault. When i tried to speak to him, he just ignored me. Only when someone else stepped in did he gave me a refund very unwillingly and did not even apologised. The drink was cheap but the attitude of the cashier simply sucks. 4) Dreamboys - perhaps I was just too early (9pm on fri) but there were only 6 boys on stage. According to the mama, more will come in about 2 hours later. None were to my taste so I paid for my 180bt for my coke and left. 3) boyz boyz boyz - cute boys and many of them on stage but they are wearing too many clothes. Cost 350bt to watch the show. Place was quite full even though they can't serve alcohol on the 17th. The show was average at best. There was a big cock show but no fuck show. A few song performances which isn't exactly what I want to see. Off fee was 1050bt and you have to negotiate the boy fee with the boy directly. Unfortunately, mama only pointed out a few who would go out with men. Most would only got out exclusively with ladies including the one I had my eye on... 2) toy boys - I had my best off from here. A cute 20 year boy from Myanmar who spoke excellent English. This is the first boy whom I don't need to use Google translate to have a semi decent conversation with. But the pricing of the bar is quite different and the mama didn't explain it well to me 😒 Basically, to get the boy to sit with you. U have to pay 500bt which doesn't include a drink for the boy. The boy's drink will cost another 300bt. The off fee is 500bt. ST will cost u 2000bt. LT is 3000bt. Initially the boy agreed to LT but he will have to leave at 5am. But he was very sweet and did everything I asked him to. So he pleased me so much I gave him 3k for ST instead. As a souvenir, he left me his pair of undies 🤭 1) XBoys - the bars in BKK should learn from them on how to stage a show...the warm up show at 10am opened with a bang with 3 couple fucking on stage 🤯 They have everything including a shower show, a golf game using their cock as a club, big cock show, simulated rape show, close up fucking show...basically there were so many cocks flashing on stage...it was like in cock heaven 🤭 Show was 300bt, boy's drink was also 300bt. Off fee is 800bt and the boy's tip for ST is 2000bt which was collected upfront. Visited the bar twice on wed ans fri. Quite concerning is that the place was only about 1/4 full on a Friday evening. Not sure if it is due to the rain we had been experiencing the last few days but hopefully they will have more customers tomorrow. Unfortunately I had my worst off from here. The boy was sweet but spoke poor English. The worst thing was that his dick had those injection. Looking at that deformed monstrosity really turned me off and he is still intending to get more...I really don't understand what is the appeal. He had a decent cock which is a bit on the smaller side but it's totally adequate. With those injection he got, the upper half of his dick felt so spongy...I couldn't bear to touch it 😅 luckily he had a very nice ass so it wasn't a total loss.

I note Vinapu's post elsewhere which referenced the issue of kissing for gay guys in Thailand. I thought it deserved a thread of its own. Have other visitors encountered the view, as expressed by some gay Thais I know, that kissing (the intimate kind, French and just with the lips) is "un-Thai"? Neither topping nor bottoming are, nor even straight sex, nor any other of the usual activities...but kissing? I have to admit that I'm not bothered personally since in both my personas, straight and now gay, it has never been high on my list of pleasures. But a cultural unwillingness to indulge? Any views? Then there's the issue of the "sniff-kiss", originally a mother sniffing her baby to check that all is well and, apparently, used sometimes as an intimate act between adult lovers. Has anyone experienced this? I have been coming to Thailand- specifically gay Thailand- for nearly three decades but there remain cultural issues which still puzzle.

From Bangkok Post Cambodia has agreed with the Thai government's initiative to facilitate cross-border travel for tourists from six countries in the region through a single visa policy called "6 Countries, 1 Destination", positioning Thailand as a regional tourism hub, according to a source at Government House. The move came after talks between Cambodian Minister of Tourism Huot Hak and Dusit Manapan and Chayika Wongnapachant, advisors to the Thai Foreign Minister Maris Sangiampongsa, to discuss cross-border travel and promoting seamless tourism on Monday in Phnom Penh. The source said the Cambodian tourism minister supported Thailand's "6 Countries, 1 Destination" policy and agreed to discuss the issue further with Cambodia's Ministry of Interior, Customs Department and other relevant agencies. The source said the feedback from these agencies will be proposed to Cambodia's cabinet for consideration ahead of an official visit by Prime Minister Paetongtarn Shinawatra. The "6 Countries, 1 Destination" initiative aims to promote tourism and economic collaboration between Brunei, Cambodia, Laos, Malaysia, Vietnam and Thailand. https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2887782/cambodia-backs-thai-led-6-country-single-visa-plan

I absolutely need kissing and it would be a deal breaker if the boy said no.

I entirely agree. Trip reports setting out sex 3 times a day, are bound to induce envy etc. Perhaps they are not always completely accurate? As an older top, it would be miraculous if I could cum twice every day, and I don't expect to. Or try to! If you just want sex once a week, fine, and enjoy the rest of the time. You can always have a massage, admire the masseur, and get the masseur to cum, much less effort, and quite tasty!

I think that this forum peer pressure for us to have sex everyday, for who are here, who are doing trip reports - is that said forum members who are home or not in Thailand - want to live vicariously through our in-Thailand adventures - and therefore their @home (not in Thailand) desire is to influence our in-Thailand trip to post more about 1 or more encounters (offs) each day to satisfy their need/frustration for not being in-Thailand right now. Thoughts ?

of which 1 of them I have a crush on - as he is from Myanmar and ever so sexy. Here in Pattaya it is very rare to have the privilege to encounter Myanmar guys whereas in BKK it is much easier to encounter them. Emiel and I, we nicknamed him, Mr. Tuesday, as he was supposed to be in my condo room today for my weekly gay volleyball organized 4 hands massage. One of the ex stars of X-Boys is personal friends of him (he plays volleyball), and he put my volleyball friend in contact with Mr. Tuesday. But, unfortunately, Mr. Tuesday had to cancel due to this awful fever + nasty cough that is going around here because of the recent inclement weather. So, once I can get Mr. Tuesday in my bed I will report back here..... Today I was provided with a sexy masculine substitute guy from Khon Kaen (Isaan) who was visiting Pattaya for 3 days and my volleyball massage organizer grabbed him at the last minute for my massage today. He was hot and fun - but in another day he flies back to Khon Kaen - so no repeat looks possible.

Guy I had appointment with cancelled at last minute. Manager gave me phone with photos and the replacement i chose just happened to be among five guys hanging around shop. For the record, I could have chosen any of the other four. They have many of my type here.

I don't think that Jupiter is that costly personally tho. The caliber of most of the boys there are higher than what you will find in the area. And considering that Dreamboy is charging 550 for the bar fine and 3000 for the boy tips, Jupiter boys are more of my type for the same price 🤭

https://www.newsweek.com/russian-pilot-found-dead-after-alleged-hammer-attack-1972098 "A senior Russian pilot complicit in a deadly attack on a Ukrainian mall has been found dead with hammer wounds to the head, according to the Ukrainian military intelligence (HUR). The pilot, named as Dmitry Golenkov, was said to be involved in the missile strike on civilians at Amstor mall in the Ukrainian city of Kremenchuk, on June 27, 2022. A total of 22 people died in the attack and at least 59 were injured. The body of Golenkov, who was chief of staff of the Russian 52nd heavy bomber aviation squadron, was found in an orchard on Sunday morning, in the Russian village of Suponevo, per a report released by HUR... At the time, President Zelensky called the attack, "one of the most brazen terrorist acts in European history," as at least 1000 people were inside the Amstor mall when it was hit... G7 leaders labeled the strike as "abominable," and listed aid for Ukraine as top of their agenda, according to Newsweek reporting at the time...". I feel a song coming on...

It must be they did not like smell of your after shave splash

I have my serious doubts how straight that 'straight' guy is but let him have it

I'm no doctor but those drugs, as I understand it, only affect performance, not desire.

Those abs!

Wouldn't have guessed that. Because you wrote you see many hot boys at Mbar and the boys there are very twink. But I can only applaud you for your good taste of guys... As it's same what I like. More hunks than twinks.

Not going back that far, but many might not remember that the previous location, across the soi, was at first only half the size. It was only a bit wider than the current site. At some point they expanded back behind / to the right of entry of the entry door. I think I once saw Tawan on the original Suriwong location but didn't visit it there. I imagine they regularly had competition level bodybuilders then, as they did in the early days of the Soi Tawan Sorry for the interruption to the non-Tawan discussion in this thread 😆

I have orgasm almost everyday when im away from Thailand, usually watching porn. But in Thailand I have one maybe once every ten days. I like to stay horny when I’m there and I have performance anxiety so I usually will screw a guy but not come because it takes too long. i think watching porn has made sex much more difficult for me. I like to edge watching it and it’s so hard to actually orgasm for me. Although I’d like to come, it’s fun going a long time. Usually the boys get impatient though.

Hahahaha! Or should I write: 5555 That none of the willing boys from X-Boys found their way to my hotel room, doesn't mean I did not have some fun in the bedroom. I had appointment with a MB from the USA... Quite a novelty. He was a very friendly "straight" boy, with who you can also have nice conversation. Heavy tattooed chest. Very good body. Nice cut dick. But... Available for Thai prices! 2000baht for massage, touching, mutual sucking. 3000baht if he needs to bottom. This straight boy told me he loves anal stimulation. Because he's straight he doesn't like kissing with a guy... But... There a price on everybody and everything. So when you pay 4000baht kissing is possible according to his "price list". Below is his Grindr profile. Massage was average. Not very special but sufficient. His sucking was nice and his dick also nice to suck. Somehow it was a big turn on to make a straight buy hard... Lol

i was offered drugs for an enlarged prostate which was having a disastrous effect on my sleep patterns. However, I checked carefully on the side effects and loss of libido was chief among them. Accordingly, I put up with the problem. At my age, I've not many years of sexual adventuring left and I'll be d****d if I do anything to spoil the last hurrah. A word of encouragement to a-447; the symptoms subsequently suddenly disappeared for no apparent reason. Someone up there loves me! By the way, like others, my libido is also at its most active, demanding and urgent when I am far away from the source of release. This is, as those raised on Evangelical and Fundamentalist readings of the Old Testament will confirm, the result of Original Sin. Look it up.

I must have stayed in at least thirty hotels with my Teerak over the years, including non-Thai ones. Hotels of different "classes" and only a couple of them gay. I've been trying to think of any bad experiences at breakfast and I honestly cannot think of even one. Of course, P is now in his forties, and this undoubtedly makes a difference in that we no longer look like a punter-barboy duo. The only time I recall our feeling uncomfortable was on an island trip in Krabi. The offending couple weren't German but Australian.....which surprised us because Old Daddy's countrymen and women are usually so friendly towards us. On that occasion it was an elderly Italian couple on the boat who made it clear that they supported us.

reminds me sitaution in Fresh Beach Boys , soi Twilight when black American lady complemented me on my choice of boy I brought with me there from Arena. Not to mention quite recent situation from Hot Male I already mentioned about somewhere. I was sitting with S and two young farang girls looked toward him with obvious interest to a degree that I took pity on them and told S that he can go with those ladies if he wants and I off him tomorrow. But he declined, who would abandon such charmer like me?

This happens to me, when there's too many choices....I prefer a bar/club where it's clear the ONE that I want, less stress, lol

Watch this and let us know if you will give Moonlight a chance? 🤪🤩😛

If I may, I'll clarify using your own example, even if it would be a little to absurd to actually happen in real life: Your gardner is paid for a specific service - Gardening. Presumbly, he advertised that service, and you engaged him for that service. No that's not "manipulative and shady", and if you read my post carefully, I never said it was. What would have been "manipulative and shady" is if you'd demanded your gardner give you a blow job in order for you to engage his services as a gardener. It would have been even more shady, if after getting the blow job, you subsequently did not engage their services. Even more manipulative and shady, would have been if you had threatened to ensure that they would never find work as a gardener if they didn't accede to your demand. There is of course, a huge amount of grey area when it comes to human relationships. Sex work itself is frought with grey area. But on analysis of situations we can determine how deep into the dark a given situation is. This A&F situation seems pretty dark. The allegations suggest a deliberate abuse of power. Your promiscuous and fecund father perhaps promised love and marriage to his paramours. Or perhaps he just had that way with words that got his ladies into bed without actually promising them anything. On the face of the stated facts, I'd suggest that his actions are more towards the lighter end of the greyscale.

There are many shitty things to do that aren't illegal. That doesn't make them not shitty. I hate the argument legality=acceptability.

I think the problematic issue is the offer of "opportunities". Whether that offer got realised for most of the models or not, it's pretty shitty way to get someone do something they wouldn't normally want to do. It's the difference between performing sex acts to get a job and performing sex acts as your job. In my mind one is manipulative and shady, and the other is perfectly fine way to make money.