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and this is not ONLY a Tawan = The One problem it is almost EVERYWHERE in the gay Thailand world - this FAILURE to implement basic marketing strategies. They will complain that they have no money and no customers but won't take that step to market and/or market themselves to make them visible. Here in Jomtien, so many of the local guys complain that they don't get enough customers but when I look at their app footprint I see the following problems: they only use Hornet and their entire profile is ONLY in the Thai language. I tell them if you want to reach the farang (non Thai) potential client base you need to insert some English words into your profile, many of them do not use Grindr - I keep telling them if you want to get non-Thai customers you need to have a presence on Grindr - as that is where most of the farangs hang out when they do their guy searching via apps. Unfortunately, I have heard horrible stories where if someone reports you as being a money boy (MB) on Grindr or by Grindr themselves they block them at the mobile phone level - meaning that if they even change the email that Grindr associates them with - that Grindr will still block them as somehow Grindr can see the device ID and know that it is them that they already blocked, the Heesay app (formerly BLUED) is really only used by a subset of the larger Asian population (China ? Korea? and some in Thailand). Again, I tell them to insert English words into their Heesay profile, Fear that their "friends" will learn that they are a money boy - so they write their profiles in such a way that a person visiting Thailand would have NO clue that they are available for hire. As for the massage shops here in Jomtien - they are their worst enemy - as the shop owners do not do any marketing of their guys and/or shops like they do in Bangkok - so the guys are left alone to their own devices for marketing purposes. Generally, the guys do not implement a self-promotion marketing plan and prefer to sit on those plastic chairs outside of these small massage shops for 6 to 8 hours a day waiting for that one farang who might chose them. They get desperate, especially if they have only had one customer in a given week. Furthermore, many are freelance - and so the shop does not pay them a salary and if they get a non-Thai customer and that person is not accustomed to giving a tip (on which they survive on to pay the rent and eat) their situation becomes quite dire - as it is very difficult to live on a 20 baht tip. Again, I fault the managers / owners of these small shops for not properly "educating" the incoming customers. In Bangkok, many of the massage shops are quite explicit and clear about how much you (the client) are supposed to tip the masseur as it relates to the requested service.

Regarding your question about 9-teen, Olddaddy, don't get caught out the way I did, which I documented in another post a few weeks ago. Two stunning guys called out to me when I was walking past, and I thought that either of them would suit me well. One of them directed me inside and matched me up with a guy who was absolutely not my type of all. I'm not the sort of guy who would cause offence, so I just went along with it, albeit rather reluctantly. I was not offered a choice of masseur, nor was there discussion about a tip. So, learn from my mistake. I should have asked if either of the boys would be my masseur or whether I would have a choice inside. Also, what tip they would expect and what service could be provided. Needless to say, my session did not give me a happy ending.

Sometimes I wonder about you..... @vinapu has talked about that place so much... I can't wait until you stumble upon Foodland and declare what a discovery it is 🤪

When I was looking for long time in 2012-2014, I had similar problems. But nowadays I sleep better alone and do long time only if the boys suggests or someone I had several good short times with and I suggest long time and specify details. Two years ago I had such case (I asked the boy for long time), and he had to leave at 6 am, so we woke up 5 am to have an hour together, but not worth the extra money, next time leave it at short time. You can buy smiles, but you can't change their behavior with money. I had such cases as well, where the boy would rather get a small amount of money by scamming me (e.g. advance payment for travel) instead of a repeated higher income by honest work. I have learnt a lot over the years (2009 my first trip), and many disappointments and a lot of money wasted.

from my few visits in Jey I'm under impression there's also no shortage of rich locals willing to pay up. Few times I saw customers there obviously on their work or conference break in full corporate regalia, tie and all .

he may have better chance on apps in Pattaya

I like when he walks around the patrons and asks "how did you like my sausage ?"

Fantastic German 🇩🇪restaurant near the Balcony I believe it's called G's Very friendly farang owner ,I was looking at the menu outside,he came over and started talking to me & my Filipino BF ,he had been a chef in Australia 🦘 He recommended we come in and try his shnitzel and German beer🍺🍻 called Carlsbrau Very friendly,but then I heard him talking to a new Zealand couple and he said he worked as a chef there too before inviting them in 🤣 🤣Then another guy said he was from UK ...

The schnitzel's are more like cutlets....according to 2 German friends, big plates though....and I do mean the plates, lol

I know some people don't approve of nudity so strip poker may rub them the wrong way...but this seems like a bit of an over reaction! 😆

Food there is generally good, I think. You can have Thai food as well. I am fond of the Thai fishcakes. Good selection of beers. Guido is an active host, too much so for some members, I know, but keeps the place moving. Normally pretty full.

Would strongly agree with you @bkkmfj2648. I regularly have to visit TukCom and always get my Bolt from the back door. The boys at the massage shop across the Soi are always head down on their phones, of if they put their head up, it's because they're having a smoke. Same with the shop next to the French Restaurant round the corner. No concept of trying to connect with a potential punter. If using Google for investigation / reasearch purposes, no recent reviews to give the impression they're actually open for business, or they've improved since their last review back in 2017! Also find any guys offering Massage services on TF or Grindr, soon as you push them for details of their facilities, you're then acknowledged with silence. Get the impression the concept of Marketing is viewed as a farang thing out here, so must very bad.

no offence will be taken if you try to bargain it down and stick to your price. Some guys will not yield but others may, if not right away , in few hours or next day.

Yes I have learnt to be more assertive nowadays It won't be easy if other boys are sitting around whilst I ask them but I now no longer let them lead them

The big clean up is on at the moment - some house owners are facing tremendous challenges to get rid of mud and now dust from their dwellings - condo residents also affected Parts of the town that were flooded have streets piled with water damaged furniture, bedding, electrical gear and black plastic bags filled with whatever. This debris is slowy being cleared but there is tons of it. The old town surrounded by the moa.t was largely unaffected but areas near the river suffered badly - Warorot market and the produce market Muang Mai Soi 6 in the night bazaar where Orion , Connections and Ram bars are located was inundated - the first 2 bars i know have reopened. Adams Apple and New Circle Clubs were not affected.

The big clean up is on at the moment - some house owners are facing tremendous challenges to get rid of mud and now dust from their dwellings - condo residents also affected Parts of the town that were flooded have streets piled with water damaged furniture, bedding, electrical gear and black plastic bags filled with whatever. This debris is slowy being cleared but there is tons of it. The old town surrounded by the moat was largely unaffected but areas near the river suffered badly - Warorot market and the produce market Muang Mai Soi 6 in the night bazaar where Orion , Connections and Ram bars are located was inundated - the first 2 bars i know have reopened. Adams Apple and New Circle Clubs were not affected.

Yesterday I visited various gay travel sites and forums to notify that Tawan had been resurrected. One of the sites clearly stated that it was closed. So, let's keep spreading the word. I want Tawan to be around when I next return to Bangkok. I agree with Tawan Forever that they need to spread the word themselves through the various social media sites. I am still in touch with one of the guys who works there (I took him back to my hotel a few times) and he said that he's getting next to no business. And, yes, I agree with Tawan Forever as to why you would want to have a drag queen at The One. I could go to another bar if I wanted that type of show.

Does it have to be a massage place? https://darkroombdsm.com/ Foreigners get charged more....

From 4 years ago in 2020: https://shamelessmacktwo.travel.blog/2020/04/07/blind-optimism-blah-outcomes/

Unfortunately no, because I now order in my massages to my condo room instead of going to the local massage shops. I do my bookings via 2 separate friends who organize masseurs for me from their vast pool of local guys. However, when I first moved here 2 years ago, I was frequenting both the Foxy Smile and Pattaya #1 Health massage shops - they are right next to each other and very near to Soda massage. As I like the more manly type of masseurs, both the Buriram and @The Beach massage shops tend to have more masculine masseurs.

After a ten days in Bangkok and Pattaya, I flew to Japan for another ten day visit, 6 of which were with family and friends. That gave me some time to explore options. I had read the forum topic on boy brothels which intrigued me. I had long ago head of King College but had no experience of it or what are a multitude of others. Without too much exploring I identified the following: chanceosaka,jp kids-jp.com Fragrance-boy.com gym-k.com izakspa.com heroes-Tokyo-jp redline03.com urisen-next.com topboy.yoyyo olive-salon.net/staff jam-so11.com dgdgdg.com (Danshi Gauken) I am sure there are more, just depends on one’s location when in Japan. My travel plans settled me into the Osaka/Kyoto region. I was in Tokyo but only for a lengthy layover on the way from Bangkok to Osaka. After looking at the various sites and I encourage forum members to explore as the majority of the sites will provide photos of their “representatives”, details on age, height, weight, penis size and what the guys will get up to or into. Many have info charts to summarize if the subject of the photo will kiss, will fuck, be fucked, do threesomes, whether they smoke or drink, if they will do films, and if they are straight, gay, or bi. As to how well a boy might kiss, fuck, etc there can be graphic charts. A circle is a yes, a circle in a circle is a sign of experience. A triangle indicates boy is on a learning curve, an x is no. The sites vary as to how they indicate if a boy is a top or bottom. “Uke” is a bottom. “Maru” and “tachi” are slang for top. Some of the sites will also provide an introduction from the boy, a manager’s view of the boy, and client reviews. One, Chance, also gives space to the boy to talk about himself - some are very clear about their erogenous zones. Then there is pricing - it is time based and can range from a hour to overnight. The better sites (my rating) are vey clear about how pricing works, if credit cards (and which ones) are accepted with or without an additional handling charge (as much as 7% at some places). I used both two hour and three hour bookings as I was testing and exploring. You can book to meet the boy at the agency or at your hotel. Danshi Gauken prices and hour at 14,000 JPY for the office and 13,000 if the boy comes to your hotel. I asked why the difference and was told they don’t have cleaning time/costs for someone going to a hotel. The hour pricing is about $95 USD. Two hours is 19,000 JPY ($129 USD). Overnight /12 hours is 32,000 JPY ($287). One can contrast these prices with Bangkok remembering to add in the off fee and and drinks that may have attached themselves to completing the off. The two hour fee is about 4000 THB. As a culture, Japanese do not expect tips. Your up front cost is also the back end cost (in more ways than one). Whew…got the details out. NOwfor the

Well Hell you nasty little whores! Let me preface this post before I get to the nitty-gritty! If you are looking for proper grammar and punctuation then leave now bitch! To all you other nasty whore who don't give a damn a just want to hear about my dirty deeds then continue reading. It's been awhile since I've posted but I continue to read posts here and there. a bitch has been tied up with other social media accounts and work has been rewarding, but kicking my tight ass. lol. I've been to the sdq 4 times since my last post. you guys know that I always talk about and give my ass to my sexy barber husband when I'm there but I got a disturbing text before my trip last weekend. my barber husband always texts right before I arrive. I mean this guy knows my travel schedule better than I do. he texted and asked when I would arrive and I told him. he responded and told me that he was moving 4 hours away from sdq. I was heart broken because I just loved his massive dick, handsome face and the way he would arrive to the apartment, smoke his weed, shower then ram his big dick in my ass and fuck me until he nutted. so what is a slut to do now that my main dick had left sdq? well, a bitch had to rely on my book phone gallery of big dick Dominican studs. as I told you in previous posts, I follow a lot of the guys on social media. a few years ago I would tap into their friends list and friend follow and or communicate with their friends. almost all of them will fuck your brains out for the right price. my price is always $50. here is how I bait these young big dick studs when I arrive. I go to my social media pages, take pics of my arrival and the texts/dm slowly start to roll in. after the barber told me he had moved, I had to find a main dick for the weekend. I reached out to Mr baseball. you remember me talking about this young big dick fucker who likes to fuck missionary and choke his bottoms while he pounds their asses? I will post pics of this hung hunk in the comments. we arrive, my husband has his 8 p.m. appointment and I waited for the baseball player to arrive. I decided to watch my husband and his sex partner make out until Mr baseball arrives. the longer I watch my husband suck on this Dominican studs dick, the hornier I get. my husband is a pro at sucking big dicks and it was soooooo sexy to sit in the chair outside the bedroom in the dark and sniff my poppers. my dick was so hard, I thought it was going to explode. its 820 and Mr baseball still hasn't arrived. I text him and he sends me a picture telling me that he was in the gym working out. I was stunned because I was looking forward to being choked and getting mutted out. I wasn't rude. I just told him thank you my friend and went back to watching the live freak show in the dark area of the living room. a few minutes later the phone was going crazy with calls and text from the guy that my husband and I had to throw out a few times because of his erratic behavior. I kept ignoring the call but he kept calling back and it disturbed my husband during his session. he stopped, came out and asked why I wasnt fucking and I told him Mr baseball is at the gym. he then told me to come in with him and his guy. I walked in and the 3 of us start to play. this sexy mf has a huge hard dick and as much as I tried I couldnt get it all in my mouth. but I knew that there was another hole I could fit it in and as long as I had my poppers I'd comfortably be able to get it all in. I during our session, my husband nutted and I told him that I wanted his guy to fuck my missionary while my husband sucked my nipples and I jerked my dick. we put a pillow under my back and we positioned ourselves so that I could cum with his big Dominican dick in me. this guy has a huge dick and was pounding me but I couldn't cum with all that pressure in my ass. I asked him to go slow and he and I got in a fuck rhythm with me sliding and squeezing my ass back and forth on his big dick within about 3 minutes I let out a load extended moan because I was nutting, my husband was sucking and I was getting mailed by this big dick dominican. as I'm nutting my body was completely relaxed which allowed me to spread my legs even wider so he could go as deep as his dick possibly could in my ass. we all laugh, wash up then my husband and I head to zona colonial to eat. while were eating were enjoying all the eye candy that's passing by and I'm still hungry for more dick. we finish eating and as were walking back to the condo a guy, who looked extremely young spoke and I spoke back but kept walking because he looked young as hell. he followed us and struck up a conversation. I asked how old he was. he told me 22 then I asked to see his ID. he laughed and showed me his cedula and sure enough the guy was 22 years old. I asked dis he want to make money and he said yes. my next question was, do you have a big dick and will it get hard he pulls out his phone and shows me his dick picture and a video of his girlfriend taking his dick. we settled on 50 dollars and went back to the apartment. I wanted this guy to do everything he was doing to his girlfriend in the video and he didn't disappoint. after he showered, he came into the bedroom and his dick was rock hard. I begin to suck his dick and my husband immediately begins to suck my nipples. I reached down for my poppers took a whiff and before I could put the poppers back on the bed, he was asking for the bottle. he took a whiff handed me the bottle, grabbed both sides of my head and start to face fuck me. my husband backed off to watch us play, I stood up and the guy starts to passionately suck my nipples. I was in heaven. I grabbed the poppers again, took a hit then put it under his nose to take a hit. a few secs later he pushes me back on the bed, grabs the condom and lubes and tries to insert his big dick in my ass. he didn't put enough lube and it was uncomfortable so we had to put more. within a minute he all in my ass. while he was pounding me out, I realized the guy had big cow nutts and while he fucked me, his massive nutts were colliding with my ass bringing me even more pleasure. we switched from missionary to doggy and he wore my hole out. his strokes were so intense that I grabbed the pillow to cover my head because I was making so much noise. while my back is arched and were both sniffing the poppers at various intervals in the session, I head a loud moan. I thought it was the guy nutting but when I pulled the pillow back it was actually my husband cuming and moaning because of all that was going on. the 22 year old finally cums pulls the condom out to show me his cum In the condom then tells me that he wants me to cum. I asked him to lay beside me to suck my nipples. his dick was still rock hard with a load of cum inside the condom and he went back inside me. my mind was blown because his dick was still brick and he was ready to go immediately after he gave me a load. we back into a groove and while he towering over me feeding my hole his dick, he's also playing with my nipples with 2 fingers from both of his hands. again, within minutes I let out a loud moan and shoot another load. there is a lot more that happened on this trip but I'm going to end it end and finish telling you tramps the story within the next 48 hours.

From Pattaya News Phuket Smart Bus (PKSB) yesterday launched a new electric bus service connecting Phuket Town and Patong. The service is priced at just 50 baht per passenger. Phuket Smart Bus Co Ltd, a venture under PKCD, has a history of initiatives aimed at enhancing Phuket. Earlier this year, PKCD, in collaboration with the Sustainable Tourism Development Foundation, introduced a free air-conditioned electric bus service in Phuket Town. The new service adds to their existing operations, which include bus routes from the airport along Phuket’s west coast to Rawai. Governor Sophon emphasised that the new bus route aims to provide both locals and tourists with convenient and eco-friendly transportation options. The initiative also seeks to alleviate traffic congestion and reduce pollution levels in the area. The electric bus route will pass through significant areas such as Samkong, Kathu, and Patong. Key locations along the route include schools, hospitals, markets, and popular tourist spots like Patong Beach. The service will run daily from 6am to 8pm, with buses departing every hour, said Governor Sophon. https://thethaiger.com/news/phuket/phuket-launches-b50-electric-bus-service-from-town-to-patong

I must admit I love the variety of boys in Bangkok But ...the price for a guy4hire is much higher than Pattaya Here is a Filipino couple willing to Gangbang Quotes price is 8,000 baht Would I pay it ? No But obviously there is customers willing to pay that If anyone is interested here is their profile .very sexy Filipino guys

I think he's just fucking with us and laughing his old daddy ass off 😉

But your blogs are really useful!

Identity Theft ? I give him a Pass... WHO would want to be a BOEBERT ? Anything is better, except being a TRUMP.

@Verchiele alerted me to the opening of a new shop on Intramara 25 (LINE @Phoenix25). Location link: https://goo.gl/maps/kpzDPXdKakFTrJct5 I'm fairly sure that several years back this shop was occupied briefly by a massage shop that later merged with KK Massage a short distance away. Photos posted today: The shop is offering a promotion of three (3) hour long sessions for $1,000 bht.

Oldadaddy, there are five other shops on Soi 6 where you can choose your guy. No one takes offense regardless who you choose because they're accustomed to the system. Good luck. 🙂

I have seen higher prices. It’s usually good looking guys that has put in a fair bit of aesthetic labour into their bodies and that’s marketing themselves toward a richer, foreign clientele. I have seen boys from Zeus massage also offering their services at certain sites at double the price at what you would pay if you booked through Zeus massage (formerly Apollo massage).

Maybe ignore 9-teen altogether and go to Relax massage instead at Soi 6.

In the case of the police raiding the 32 elderly who were playing bridge in early 2016 - Barry told us that he believed it was due to: "Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned, Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned" as perhaps, if I remember correctly, a woman who was one of the former partners of one of the bridge players reported them to the police as revenge ?? I imagine the same could happen if a gay guy suddenly finds himself jilted for another gay replacement ? 🤔 Worse than the "talk to the hand" treatment ?

I'm still shocked that every BKK local I spoke to thought it was still closed all these months later... A situation easy fixed if they popped a few posts on their socials (Should have been saturation for the reopening) I may have to go over and manage the place myself!

Yes he loves Bangkok but he is not into Asian guys ,he has been looking at Russian and Arabic guys

It's been a few years since I have been in Thailand, but I can share this much. I have never tried to get a fetish massage in a shop but I have had guys from Romeo and Grindr match my fetish when performing massage. Before we met, I tried to have a conversation with them and share my fetish fantasies and 9 times out of 10, they met the challenge.

The 22 year old. Look at those low hangers.

As I bridge player I heard about that at the time. It convinced me that the local police are pretty out there in lala land.

With Moses it's best to translate everything into Russian. It has an easier time understanding.

From Bangkok Post The lawyer who successfully sought the disbandment of the Move Forward Party has asked the Constitutional Court to stop former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra from threatening the constitutional monarchy by influencing the coalition-core Pheu Thai Party. In a 5,080-page petition filed at the court on Thursday, Therayut Suwankesorn targets both Thaksin and the party now led by his daughter, Prime Minister Paetongtarn Shinawatra. Among the many allegations the petition makes is that Thaksin used the Ministry of Justice under the Pheu Thai-led government to secure his extended stay at Police General Hospital when he should have been in jail following his conviction for abuse of power last year. Mr Therayut also accused Thaksin of pushing the government to share marine resources in Thai waters with Cambodia in line with a memorandum of understanding signed in 2001 when he was prime minister. In fact, the marine boundary between the two countries remains in dispute, though Pheu Thai is seeking to revive negotiations. As well, the petition contends, Thaksin ordered Pheu Thai to join forces with the People’s Party to push for constitutional amendments. The latter is the reincarnation of the Move Forward Party, which the Constitutional Court earlier found guilty of jeopardising the constitutional monarchy, Mr Therayut points out. https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/politics/2881447/dissolution-petition-targets-thaksin-and-pheu-thai

I think I first heard that comment about 6 years ago. I didn't know it was you!

From Pattaya Mail Mayor Poramet Ngampichet announced a significant increase in independent Chinese tourists visiting Pattaya during the recent Chinese National Holiday. However, the number of group tours from China has dropped by more than half. This decline is attributed to China’s recent policy encouraging domestic travel and the impact of recent flooding in Thailand, which has affected group bookings at various hotels. Despite the reduction in group tours, many independent Chinese travellers opted to visit Pattaya, contributing to the city’s vibrant tourism scene. As the city enters its high season, local authorities are taking proactive measures to ensure the safety of tourists, particularly in entertainment venues. Efforts are being made to enhance fire safety and overall emergency preparedness. Looking ahead, the upcoming long holiday from October 12-14 is expected to attract a significant number of Thai tourists to Pattaya, with many already securing accommodations. Although September saw a dip in tourism numbers, the outlook for the end of the year remains promising. Numerous events are planned to draw visitors, including the Bikini Run, International Fireworks Festival, International Jazz Music Festival, and New Year’s Countdown celebrations scheduled for November and December. These activities aim to boost Pattaya’s tourism and solidify its reputation as a premier destination.

Yes, the parties are really great, even if all you do is just stand afar and watch. Fun and hot to see all the action going around. Yes i've been to sauna mania and R3 parties. You can see if they advertise the dates on their "X", or message them on line app to check which dates the parties are at. Usually it's always either at sauna mania or R3 on fri/sat/sun at 8:30pm. == feel free to check out my trip reports from 2023, 2022, 2020 haha there are snippets of my observations of the sauna mania/R3 parties..

https://jomtiencomplex.com/jomtien-complex-map/ Red colored places in the below map indicate all of the massage places in or just outside of the Jomtien Complex.

I didnt find my link, but I rmmbrd that all the sites I visited r marked on my ggl map. North of Pattaya: Million years stone park and crocodile farm *Frost magical ice Truth sanctuary South: Legend siam *Nong nooch botanical gardens Khao chi chan

Friendly immigration officer is a very rare species like smiling guys in Moonlight Bar. So far I only encountered one in Singapore and one in the Philippines.

correct! I am surprised that so few others thought it was elsewhere! Xboys has those annoying digital clocks in the background, where the time is never correct and both clocks are never on the same time!

Go to another sub section in this forum, it is full of brazil trip reports

Wow @Verchiele what you write is SO true...... When I lived in Rome, Italy - my FAVORITE discoteca was the Muccassasina https://www.muccassassina.com/ Well, in one of their bathrooms (when it was operating out of the Qube building) - there was this extra "special" exit just near the urinals. Well, once you entered into this special exit - you entered into a dark maze where many of these HOT Italian guys (gay, bi, "straight") would have their pants open stroking on their meat. They would often join you, go down on you, or push your head down so you could service them. Often these interactions were quick - because often the guy would run back into the bathroom to clean up and go outside to rejoin his friends or girlfriend. On one of these encounters, I was so taken with one of these hot Italian studs that I followed him in a sneaky way - after he had just finished to blow me - and his girlfriend was waiting outside of the bathroom and she started to bark at him for taking so long as she wanted to dance and he just planted a big kiss on her lips to shut her up - I found that scene so enjoyable because 20 seconds prior his lips were busy servicing my cock and now he is kissing her.....amazing!!! So, what @Verchiele wrote, "and when people are "in the mood", I think a meat is a meat." 🤪

Strangest thing that ever ever happened to me was back in 2022 I took a guy off Grindr short time,only stayed about 45 minutes,great experience , muscular,25, brown smooth skin top ,big thick cock About 2 hours later I decide to get a Grab car from my hotel (Zing) into Pattaya We are travelling up the hill towards the traffic 🚦 lights and traffic is being directed by police because of a traffic accident And I kid you not we drove very slow by the motorcycle cop who looked at me and I looked at him straight in the eyes ! It was him !!!😲😲😳😳😳

I echo all @fedssocr comments. A few years ago I did one of the organised 5-day round-the-island coach tours staying at very good hotels. I was amazed at how beautiful the island is, having earlier only visited Taipei, Taichung and Kaohsiung. We started at Sun Moon Lake where in addition to a large hot spring pool in the basement, each room had its own mini-hot spring pool! Sun Moon Lake We then drove down south of Kaohsiung to the far south coast with its crystal clear water and visiting the main Buddhist monastery before returning to Kahsiung for the night. From there we moved over to the East Coast and worked our way up to the stunning Taroko Gorge where our hotel was virtually at the top of the Gorge. Much of the upper part of the East coast looks rather like parts of the north coast of the Hawaiian Islands. Returning to Taipei is quick as the road goes through several long tunnels. You can do all these sights on your own and save quite a bit of cash. I just wanted to be lazy for a few days to sit back and enjoy the island in comfort.