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Unfortunately on Thursday night I wasn’t feeling well so I stayed in bed all night which continued onto all of Friday. It was mostly my allergies and unfortunately i didn’t bring any allergy meds, first gen antihistamines make me drowsy but rarely work so I tried some tiffy which made me sleep. I looked up online if they had mine prescription antihistamine and they did under a different name so on Saturday morning I went off to retrieve which has helped me recover. on Saturday I went down to the bars again, I was early so I walked around a bit. I remembered banana room started their show early so I headed over, when I entered it was packed, nearly every seat filled, I sat in the back last row to the left of the stage, I watched the show a few of the drag queens did quite well and I tipped, some of them tried to lip sync to English songs but it was obvious they didn’t know the words and only trying to voice the syllables, I think it would look more impressive if they lip synced to a thai song as some of the other performers did. Once again we had the nude shower show and the cock parade. I like this bar as overall seems to be less pressure, you are allowed to take a look in first to decide if you want to go in, mamasan comes around and asked if anyone you like but if you simply say “I’m still looking” they don’t push further. The show was over and unfortunately the boy I had my eye on went to join someone who had bought a bottle, another boy I had my eye on joined a couple who was preparing to off two boys, what a fun night for them, on stage only 8 boys remained, compared to other clubs it seems like banana room has the least guys on stage. Now I didn’t want to pick someone who wasn’t interested in me, atleast faking interest. On stage only one boy waved at me and showed interest, the papasan came around and I asked to buy this boy a drink, he called him down and he joined me, where he cuddled up with me very fast, he asked me all the standard questions and then I asked his position and he said “anything you like” however for me I want someone who can preform so I asked what you like more, and he told me, his English wasn’t the greatest so I asked where he was from to ensure I was translating to the correct language and we discussed fees. I agreed and since the show was over asked if he wanted to go now or stay and watch next show, he said he would get dressed, I called papasan over to pay fees. I discussed with papasan, papasan who is very friendly, why I choose boy, I told him he smiled at me and waved. I told him I look got a boy who shows interest if I take back I don’t want a dead fish. He understood and hopefully he can give some advice to the other boys. boy was dress and off we went, everything went well, he really did do “anything you like” I was tired from the previous two days and didn’t want to complete however he said Noo, I’m happy if you finish too. Which was nice made everything seem less transactional. We showered discussed bangkok a little bit and off he went. on Sunday I wanted to visit the chatuchak market, this is a huge market. I specifically went to buy some souvenirs and take in the experience, I was pleasantly surprised to find a lot of the prices cheaper than malls such as platinum. I took the mrt back through to lumphini park and walked through as this was something I had not done yet. After I took a grab back to my hotel. I relaxed for a bit and then decided I was just gonna pack tonight and stay in and relax. Even tho it’s my last night in bangkok I did need a rest I had a great time and I will definitely be back, likely the same time as this year. Most thunderstorms were overnight with only a couple in the venting early morning, it did not last long. I will likely visit some other areas such as pattaya next time. Hiring Mac at the beginning of the trip was great as he showed me how transit works, showed me the area around my hotel to eat, get laundry done, and explained things to look out for. I would definitely recommend hiring guide for first timers to learn the ins and outs, if not atleast learn how to use transit. Bangkok traffic is no joke, 3km turns into an hour long trek and the skytrain can save you so much time. my hotel furama was great. I stayed in an executive suite so I cannot speak to the other floors. I only ate breakfast once but it had everything you can expect from a western breakfast plus other cultures as well. The executive club is nice to unwind and have a drink. They provide snacks all day and some lights meals in the evening, the pool area has fake grass around the area now, pool water appeared to be tested everyday and was comfortable temperature, the city looks great at night from the rooftop pool area. maid service was amazing. She did not speak English but she didn’t get bothered when I fumbled a bit with google translate to request extra towels. She always ensured I had plenty of bottled water (sometimes I had 4 in the fridge and 6 on the counter) even when I got up late or left and came back she still did the room as late as 5 pm! Amazing service, I’m sure it helped I tipped everyday but it’s not much by western standards and the service she provided made my experience a lot more comfortable, the front desk staff and door men were friendly, never judging when bringing people back, even when I brought two. the only downside is the keys, they reuse hotel key cards so over time they wear out, so simply placing them in contact with your cellphone can erase the data causing the key not to work in the door, they did give me three keys, one for the electricity. And two for me. So I kept extra key in my wallet just in case. tomorrow I leave in the afternoon, it was suggested I simply use grab. So hopefully they won’t be mad that I have 1 large suitcase 1 carryon and my backpack. special thanks to everyone on this forum who posted. I read a lot over the few months before my trip to prepare myself and I feel like without these tips I would not have ventured out to the bars or even gotten as far as I did, so a big thank you! 🙏

Yes definitely can just watch! So I went BKK in July and attended R3 foam party. At about 8:30pm-9pm, they will open up entrance area of which you need to be naked to enter. So need to leave your towels behind. In the foam party area, there were about 10 models, these were guys who were wearing glow in the dark bracelets/ around the neck. You can approach them to suck/lick them, some can be fucked, where some only fucked. When the foam starts can be a bit chaotic, because the foam machine is not uniformly distributed, so one side can get alot++ of foam, which can quickly go over your head. Anyway, lots of groping and fondling around as people walk around admist the foam. it was really crowded, I would think maybe nearly a 100 guys. I saw one model who also has multiple OF videos, he is so hot, i approached him and sucked him for awhile, while feeling up his abs and nipples hehe.. Compared to the usual Orgy parties hosted in sauna mania/ R3, the foam party makes having sex a bit less easy, cuz admist all the foam/soap/wetness etc, hard to use the condoms properly. So mainly kissing/groping/oral action only, although there were some fucking action. Intensity wise, because hard to fuck around, i would say not super intense compared to the usual O-parties where there is much more fking. I met a really cute chinese guy who has such a smooth body and ass and I followed him around while hugging and groping him. After the party we went to shower together and headed to a room for some fun 😃

I’m not big into the club scene, I did find a few non MBs on Grindr and had some hookups I didn’t mention here, even a fun time in the sauna here in furama.

correct! I am surprised that so few others thought it was elsewhere! Xboys has those annoying digital clocks in the background, where the time is never correct and both clocks are never on the same time!

NOTE -- You can no longer apply for a visa to Vietnam in person at the Vietnam Consulate in Bangkok. From The Thaiger Getting a Thai visa in Southeast Asia is about to become a high-tech affair. Starting next week, several Thai consulates across the region will be switching entirely to online e-visa applications, leaving traditional walk-ins a thing of the past. In a surprise move, consulates in Vietnam (Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City), Malaysia (Kuala Lumpur, Penang, Kota Bharu), and Cambodia (Phnom Penh) will close their doors to in-person visa applications. Some of these have already shut their consular services in anticipation of the e-visa launch, scheduled for Tuesday. Meanwhile, for those preferring the personal touch, consulates in Laos (Vientiane, Savannakhet) and Myanmar (Yangon) will continue to accept walk-in visits, albeit with a twist—you’ll need to book an appointment online to gain entry. However, it’s not all change, reported ASEAN Now. Consulates in Indonesia (Jakarta), Taiwan (Taipei), and the Philippines (Manila) will maintain their operations as usual with no appointment necessary, providing a glimmer of hope for those who prefer the classic approach.

You and I read the FT article very differently. Maybe I need a few drinks and then try reading it again. 😋

Your contributions are much appreciated, Sudoxi. Trip and venue report have always been--and will remain--the meat and potatoes of the forum. You included the right mix IMO of details that whets the appetite to return. 🙏

Gosh, you have a long memory!

That was not the original venue. Tawan's original venue was on Suriwong Road back in the 1980s

Thanks @sudoxi for an amazing trip report. As a fellow first timer soon, your report gives me added boost of confidence ! I found this on Banana Club website on their weekly line up Monday 9.30 - 01.30 am : Suck my di$k Tuesday 9.30 - 01.30 am : li$k my a$$ Wednesday 9.30 - 01.30 am : Kiss me Thursday 09.30 - 01.30 am : Vagina Friday 09.30 - 01.30 am : I know what you did last night Saturday 09.30 - 01.30 am : Bang me Sunday 09.30 - 01.30 am : Love me harder 39m

There's nothing more 'man-made' that a throbbing fat Thai cock.

In keeping with the theme of this thread created by @macaroni21, a random feed came up on my Youtube feed of an interview by someone I do not know, Tommie McDonald, former porn producer I believe in the UK, who now is a podcaster, of his channel, Offbeat - Tommie, @Offbeatme on Twitter (X) and on the web at: https://offbeatshow.com/ In this Youtube video he interviewed, Dr. Joe Kort, PhD, LMSW, who I have been following for years, as he is my hero - as he invented the new sexual position category of SIDE, thus liberating us sides who were formerly stuck in the TOP closet. https://joekort.com/ I found this Youtube video fascinating and it answers many of the questions brought up in our forum thread. Let me know what you all think? I also learned a new terminology = cashsexual = where a person is turned on by money if you pay them to have sex - discussed in the video at minute = 6:44 Enjoy. p.s. I did not know who Tommie McDonald was so I read a Metro UK article about him: https://metro.co.uk/2022/07/05/13-questions-youve-always-wanted-to-ask-a-male-sex-worker-answered-16900821/

Dear, you know that going on to the opponent's personality means that you have no arguments on the merits of the dispute? And, besides, it shows a low level of discussion culture.

sure. I already booked my tickets for May 14 , 2034 for fast train from Swampy to Pattaya

I went on Wednesday and Saturday but the shows seemed to follow similar format, Saturday had more entertainers and backup dancers, which makes sense as they are busier on weekends, one thing I can say is if you are thinking of offing a boy and he comes to sit with you. Don’t be afraid to be direct in what you are looking for. I think if you both know what to expect going back you will be less likely to be disappointed.. they have heard it all and when I spoke to them no one seemed shocked at questions I asked. Things are a lot more discreet in North America even when talking privately.

Stop! Wait! Maybe I spoke to soon. I'm heading to Hong Kong and Macau tomorrow so I decided to give the cinema one last chance. As soon as I walked in and stood against the back wall where lots of guys line up, I felt a hand on my cock. I reciprocated and off we went. But as luck would have it, the movie finished and the lights came on for the 10 minute interval. When that happens, all acton comes to a sudden stop. He told me we can re- start after interval and went and sat down. I went outside, where I noticed a guy eyeing me off. When interval finished I went back inside and he followed me. He immediately dragged me to the seats and got down to work. He wanked and sucked me for about an hour before I finally came. (That's one benefit of getting old - you take a long time to cum and so can enjoy the sex more.) We sat and chatted for a while. He told me he liked older guys - a bit like the young guy from last night - and he was looking for a boyfriend. So the best we can hope for at the cinema is that daddy chasers turn up on the night. I get a great boost to my ego when they all tell me how big my cock is. I explain that by Western standards, it's just normal and it's certainly not like some of the fat donkey dicks I've seen in Europe. But I'm more than happy to accept the compliments. I've seen lots of big Japanese cocks over the years, but nothing like some of the monsters I've seen on Thai, Lao and Myannmar guys. But the majority of guys are less than 6 inches. In some ways, their enthusiasm for sex compensates.

On Tuesday I just did some more tourist activities and went to arena Massage and had another great massage with the guy from before. His massage is almost trained. He is more focused on the clinical and less on the erotic aspect until you flip over. I don’t mind this as I get a good massage, but would be nice if he blends Wednesday I slept in finally, I couldn’t decide what I wanted to do today. I was thinking of going to Jodds fair later in the afternoon, I decided to head out for some shopping. After shopping I returned to my hotel around 4-5 I saw that traffic was brutal so the 20 minute journey to jodds was gonna take over an hour so I decided against. I ended up on Grindr and talked to a guy we Decided to meet up in the hotel sauna where we fooled around for a bit. I showered then headed up to the pool. Furama has some nice views of the city at night. I was gonna stay in again but decided to venture out to the bars. this time I walked past dreamboys the promoters outside did ask me to come in, it was early so I said I would come back. I walked up the alley to the next one and past by banana room the promoters called out to Me. I said too early for show I will come back. However he told me show already started it was just last 9:30 when first show starts. He asked me if I wanted to just take a look, something the other bars didn’t, I peaked then decided why not. Drinks here are only 360 baht. Later I also enquired about boy drinks they are 300. So much cheaper than the other bars. When I entered there was only about 8 other guys watching the show, mostly all Asian tourists I sat in the back right by the door. The show consisted mainly of drag queens/lady boys? They lip synced and danced, there was 7 different ones in total. They had a shower show with two guys and then a cock parade show with 5 guys. While I do like drag shows there was not enough performances featuring the boys. The show ended around 10:40 which was quite long. During the show lots of people peaked inside but didn’t stay. By the end of the show there was around 12-13 customers, The boys went into stage. Only around 8 boys in total. They are mostly shirtless wearing black pants. The boys here are less twinky than the other bars I attended. They are attractive. However only one guy caught my attention but he seemed uninterested in being on stage, no one wants a dead fish. The atmosphere is good here. You are far enough away from the stage to observe but not feel like you are on top of the guys. The stage is well lit but the customer seating area is not bright. I decided to pay my fee. I tipped the lady boy who answered my questions and thanked her for her time and left. i decided to head back to dreamboys and check it out. Outside the promoters called out to me. I said what time is next show and they told me now, now. I went inside and was led to a seat on the front but asked to change to the upper seat on the side. Dreamboys was packed with customers I say a good 20-25 90% Asian tourists and 10% Caucasian. The show was some erotic dancing with the boys. A drag queen came on next. After there was a cock show, some sucking and simulated sex. A lot more variety than banana room. I didn’t check price but I believe drink here was 500 baht, boy drink was 400. After the show boys went on stage, they had a lot. Over 20. They are dressed in skimpy white shirts some wearing white tank tops but most shirtless. One guy number 77 had huge bulge in his shorts. The papasan came over to me to ask which I liked. I told them I still deciding and I felt no pressure just assistance. I saw another guy looking at me and he was cute. next show started and I forgot the numbes of the boys I was interested in. I watched show which was a bit different, however when the boys are “backup dancing” they all do this slow motion running in place move which looks a bit awkward . When the show was over boys went back on stage I narrowed down the numbers to two. I asked one of the papasans if he between the two numbers he knew which one spoke better English, he told me so I picked that boy to buy drink, he came over asked me the same questions “where you from” “how long you here” I asked him his position. He told me “I gay, I do everything” it’s funny here gay means top and bottom or just bottom. Straight is just top. We discussed his off fee he told me rate for short time and long time. I was thinking because he was a little more expensive than boys I brought back from fresh boys however I gave them extra which equaled this amount, while I was thinking he asked me “I go get dressed?” I said sure, we took taxi back to hotel, which he said he has been to many times. Back in the room he showered while I got the room ready. Then I showered. We had fun. He was just as engaged as I was and wanted to ensure I was having good time as well. after we showered together and sat on couch to talk a bit which was nice, he told me he has been working at Dreamboys since Covid restrictions ended, I saw a lot of people asking if Dreamboys where Thai only so I asked him, he told me mostly Thai but now they are hiring more from different countries and have a few already. He traded his WhatsApp asked me if I wanted to do anything in afternoon before clubs open to message him. He showed me some pictures of other boys in the club who he likes to work with, was a fun experience, it was raining so I tipped him some extra so he could take taxi. He left. Later I ordered some food and went downstairs to get it where I saw him still sitting in lobby. I asked him if everything is alright he told me he is waiting for rain to stop because he has motorbike. I asked if he wanted to come upstairs and wait and share some food but he said he is fine and wants to wait. I wished him goodnight. dreamboys was one of the bigger clubs I’ve been to. They have two entrances and a huge stage. I would definitely return. not sure if I will visit moonlight, I don’t know if I like the idea of the higher off fees. I may visit banana room again on the weekend hopefully there will be more guys on stage.

I typed this out and accidentally clicked the back button losing it all, then I typed this out in notepad to paste here. When I came back it said “previous comment restored” it was all back! Great feature. But I had already restored the below Monday I woke up bit later which was nice, I was on Grindr and talked to another tourist who was staying in my hotel, we hooked up for a quick session. After I took some of my shirts to get laundered. I did not bring enough shirts. It is very hot so I end up sweating and changing a couple times per day. So I recommend bring extra! I then decided to do the Hop on and off tourist boat, it was only 150 baht, Mac did show me how to use the regular boats but I liked the convenience of this predetermined route, I visited icon Siam again, where I went to the atm at a bank on the five floor to get some more cash. I then took the cash inside to have the 1000 baht notes broken down into smaller bills, I did this before and is much easier than breaking these large bills at places like 7-11. I visited wang lang market which I thought was a great inexpensive market. I bought a few clothing items. They also have second hand items if someone is truly looking for a bargain. I visited Chinatown, the amount of shops can be overwhelming but it was a fun walk. I also visited khaoson road, the amount of tailors approaching you for custom suites, shirts is astounding. I was asked more for a suit than a massage :p. I returned to my hotel around 6:30, tourist from Grindr messaged me asking if I wanted another quick session, I said sure and had some quick fun. I showered and relaxed in my room, it started to rain and I was debating wether or not I wanted to even go out in this, around 9:30 the rain died down to a drizzle and I decided I would venture out. I did not want to walk in this rain so I decided to get a grab car. While riding I was thinking about buying umbrella, I thought during the rainy season it might be wise for the drivers to carry some to sell to tourists they could make some extra money as I’m sure we would pay a premium. I walked through patpong market looking to see if anyone selling umbrella but wasn’t bothered if they didn’t. I made my way to the one bar, with the help from my previous post. I arrived just before 10. The promoter asked me to come in I said sure. It was a very small bar. They sat me in the middle directly in front of the stage. If I reached out with my arm I could touch the guys on stage. That’s how close it is. I thought there was 10-12 customers when I entered with two guys posing on stage. I realized after short time there was actually only 5 of us customers the rest were bar boys. The guys asked next to me, who worked there, was very pushy. Kept asking who I liked, this one younger, you like him, I kept stating I’m just looking for now, two different guys now went on stage and posed, they did not seem interested. This place was brightly lit, very small. I was not comfortable so I decided to leave around 10:15. The guys are more muscular and a bit older than the other bars I’ve attended. There was definitely a couple guys I was attracted to, but as I said the atmosphere ruined it for me. The entry fee was 500 baht, which you pay before entering, and includes one drink. Next I thought about going back to fresh boys but I wanted to try something new, so I went downstairs to good boys. This time the promoter outside asked me if I wanted to come inside, show is on. I said sure. He opened door and mamasan greeted me and took me to a table one row from the back. This place is bigger. Not as brightly lit and was packed with customers when I got there, two tables even had guys with bottles and multiple bar boys. The show was you going on and there was a drag performance. After a couple of the boys did a strip tease, followed by a light bdsm performance where two boys danced in their underwear with their hard cocks showing, after which they removed. One boy was hitting the other with a pool noodle. Another drag queen performance. I myself enjoy drag performances and these ladies definitely lip synced well. One of the mamasans came around to me, there was three of them, she asked if I liked anybody I said I am still looking she said okay let me know if you like anybody, after show they will be on stage and you can see, she told me they had boys from multiple countries not just Thai. I felt like she wanted me to:have good time and wasn’t just pressuring me to off one. Next up was big cock show, they showed off on stage then after came into audience to show off their goods. One cute boy approached me and I tipped 100 then another, and another, I wasn’t really interested in any others I saw one of the mamasans saw me tipping and told a couple of the other boys to come see me, I tipped one more then I politely said no thanks when others came to me. They didn’t seem offended and simply moved onto other customers. A simple no thanks has worked at all the bars I’ve attended so far. After the boys went on stage. They all are wearing tight white briefs. I liked a few, the boys here feel a bit more slender and slot appear to be more feminine in their mannerisms. I was looking for a top and was a bit worried. Mamasan came around again and said which boy you like, I asked her for some info on number 16. She told me he do everything, top, bottom, you will like. I wasn’t confident in her answers and said thank you and decided to watch some more. Here it felt like the boys were not interested in me, only one or two guys looked back at me and smiled. The rest seemed disinterested overall. This is a turn off for me. If they are not interested in stage when trying to present themselves, how will they react back in my hotel room? I decided to leave for the night, I called mamasan over asked for bill. She said oh no you don’t like anyone, I explained there was one boy I liked but he was busy with another customer who bought a bottle. She said oh you show me. I showed her she said oh yea. She said I see what you like. I told her I might come back tomorrow, she asked me to stay for the next show but I declined, she told me to come and see her again tomorrow, I paid, tipped her and left. I liked good boys. Staff was friendly, atmosphere was nice, seats are dimly lit. Just wish the boys seemed a bit more interested, I will definitely return, maybe the boy I like will be available next time. I was thinking on heading back to my hotel as it was just about midnight. I walked a little further and fresh boys promoter saw me and said come inside show is on, o thought for a second but said sure. I went inside and it was about 3/4 full of people. Drink is 400. The boy I had offed previously was on stage in the show and he greeted me. I sat down and ordered drink and watched the end of the show. After the show he came over and greeted me. I tipped him 100 we chatted for moment, I asked him if anyone new was here who was verse that he could work with. He gave me two numbers. Then the papasan told him to rejoin a couple male/female who I guess bought him a drink before the show. So he left to join them. I was disappointed maybe they were gonna take him tonight. I looked on stage and a few of the guys where thrusting their hips at me, I guess he told some of these guys what I like, they didn’t really interest me. One guy was older and he kept trying to get me to buy him drink,I’m just was not interested. The couple who had my guy was paying their bill. I did not see him get dressed so after they left he came back to rejoin me. Papasan asked if I wanted to buy him drink, I said sure. So I talked to him about the guy he mentioned. We watched for him to come to the side of our stage. He was a little Twinkier than I like but I asked papasan for him to buy drink so we could talk. I picked him between the two numbers my guy gave because my guy told me his English was better. He joined me and asked me usually questions “where you from” “ how long you here” My guy said he was in next show he had to get ready I said sure, I talked to the new guy, I asked him position he said everything, he seemed nervous, he wasn’t here the night before. I told him I wanted to see my guy fuck him, then him do me, he said he was fine with that, I asked rate. He asked me how much I paid my guy I told him as I was fine with it and he said ok. So I decided to off them both. He went to go get changed I paid the bill. Then when he came back we cuddled while we watched the show, my guy was in show with the drag queen with simulated sex acts, I haven’t seen this before since both nights previously I left the bar with him before he performed this act. We got back to my hotel room, all showered. Nice thing about this room is the shower is big enough for all of us with a rainfall shower head, new guy was finishing up in shower while my guy and I discussed my days activities where I went. We had slot of fun with the three of us. Unfortunately my guy was too big for the new guy to take, he tried but I didn’t want to ruin the mood by having him continue, I was a bit disappointed but we all still had fun. In the future Im not sure how I would overcome this to ensure new guy would be able to fully perform. We all showered again I tipped them both and thanked them. Ordered some food and off to bed I went. At fresh boys after I picked two other guys trying to get us to do three, even one of the waiters showed me his number. I definitely could not do three haha. Are the waiters off able? I thought they just wore numbers to make it easier to know who helped you. Fresh boys definitely has some cute waiters. Should I try any other bars tonight? I’m thinking of heading to skywalk this afternoon then maybe to arena after.

Tonight I went to a gay cinema in Ueno. It was one of my favourite haunts when I was living here. I had lots of fun there, especially when I was a student. They let me in even though I didn't look 20 years old. There was a guy there whose specialty was blow jobs. He'd arrive with tissues, bottles of water to wash our cocks, and a bowl into which he spat the cum. We would all form a line and wait out turn, Tonight was even better than I expected. Although they show straight soft porn, it's where gay guys go for fun. Within 5 minutes my pants were around my ankles and a guy was on his knees giving me a truly memorable blow job. He worked on me for around half and hour and then asked me to fuck him. Unfortunately, neither of us had a condom. A bit later he was barebacking. I had a front row view and when he pulled out and came over the guys back, he was greeted with stupendous applause! I hadn't cum yet so was looking forward to my next adventure. It didn't take long. A rather handsome guy - probably in his thirties - sidled up to me and unzipped my fly and down he went. He also worked on me for what seemed like ages and then I suggested we go and sit down. Within seconds he was on my cock again. I apologised for taking so long to cum but he told me not to worry, as he loved to suck and said he could do it all night. So I layed back in the seat, closed my eyes and let him take me to heaven. Every time I felt I was about to cum he'd stop and we'd chat until I was ready to go again. Just as I was getting close again, the lights came on. It was closing time and everyone left. WTF? No!!! I only need a few more minutes! Damn! I should have bought a Tenga! We've made arrangements to meet there again on Wednesday. There's something about the way Japanese guys give blow jobs. They know every technique in the book. They are the absolute best.

Wow. Looking at that man's internet footprint, he certainly seems fixated about this subject, for some reason. 🙄Yes, it is true that a sexual act in an of itself doesn't define a person's sexual orientation. Obviously, if a man has sex with another man for purely financial gain (escorting, porn flics, etc.), and he's fantasizing about a woman while having sex with men, yes, he's straight. However, if a man actually enjoys sex with other men (and isn't fantasizing about a woman while having sex with another man), then he's either bi or gay. He may be more on the straight spectrum of bisexuality, but he's bisexual nonetheless. It may be that most people are bisexual to some extent, and that my (and a majority of my friends) being gay is far more unusual than bisexuality. Speaking for myself, there's is no way I could get aroused by a woman, though I might be able to fantasize about a man and perform if I had to (haven't tried so far). And, once again, how a person "self-identifies," or presents himself to others, is not the same as his actual sexual orientation (which may be a mystery, even to him).

And I get turned on by paying and getting done what I want.... I have lots of free hook ups, just not the same when after I nutt I have to continue to please the other person, paying is so much simpler, lol

Dear, you know that going onto irrelevant drunken stories means that you have no arguments on the merits of the dispute... 😁

I, too, miss those places. But Patpong 2 certainly has its charms and just walking along that short stretch of Silom Soi 6 allows you to view 75 or so masseurs.

Oh I missed that one! Love to see any pics of the venue if you have any!

I recently went out of Thailand and went through immigration. I met no one. It was 100% electronic. I put my passport up there, it scanned my passport to check and then opened the gates to the next point. It then took my photo and processed, and then I exited. There was zero lines at immigration and no wait time at all. VERY easy process.

I know you said all passports but it's most likely all newer passports that have the chip. If you have an older passport without the chip you still need to go to immigration

Thanks for your report, I enjoyed reading about your adventures! Looking forward to your future trip reports!

Oldaddy, if u'll look up a post of mine from nov-dec 22, u'll find a rather surprising list of sites 2 visit around pattaya in order 2 break monotony. I apologize 4 not offering the link itself. Ashamed 2 admit, I dont navigate search options efficiently. )-:

Oh, sweetie. You bet I will! I never deduct points for reason and logic. 😉 Or a millennium ago. As long as we have society, we will have social disease. Nuthin new here. I recall stories in 2012 about how social media helped Barack Obama win. There was some line I read somewhere about how Obama won Florida because young voters who Mitt Romney didn't even know existed were organized to vote against him on Facebook or other social media. True. We also had that wonderful meme, put out by savvy Democrats, about how Mitt Romney thought the real enemy of truth and justice was ...............wait for it ............... Big Bird! My point is that I think we are all to blame for letting ignorance and dumb memes take over for logic and reason. But this is nothing new, and is not really a product of the iternet (see 20th Century, McCarthyism, Maoism, Stalinism, Nazi ideology, etc.) The good news is we live in a world that is less poor and more educated than ever. If Kamala Harris and leaders like her win all over the world, and grow the economy and keep the peace, that's why. We did that. The glass is half full. The US is on its way to being the strongest multi-racial capitalist democracy in the world. Woo hoo! What does an economy like Russia in the 1990's - drunk and weak - bestow on the world? The plague of Putinism. Death, genocide, economic decay and rot. No freedom and little hope. And that nicely sums it up. Economic self interest. Or, more pointedly, short-term economic self-interest. Or, you could argue, short-sighted economic self interest. This also is nothing new, as your example of Typhoid Mary aptly demonstrates. It took a slaughtered German economy in the 1920's and 30's to stir up the Holocaust of Hitler. Poor Mary is small ball by comparison. If Trump wins, which he could, one Never Trump Republican politico summed it up nicely. There is a "wall of lava" coming at Kamala, he said, because lots of people - especially working class people - are pissed about inflation, interest rates, higher prices, etc. There's no evidence whatsoever that more tax cuts for billionaires and corporations and more attempts to cut Obamacare will make anything better for anyone working class. So all we can hope for is that Harris sells her message well and people think it through. Everything we need to know about this election boils down to this absolutely clear fact: if the people who vote the most and are most informed prevail, Harris wins in a landslide. If the people who vote least and are least informed prevail, Trump wins big. Ignorance is not new. It will exist as long as humans do. There are plenty of people who are good decent centrist people who will vote against Harris simply because they don't like higher prices. Even though Trump has no plan to do anything about it and Harris does. Here's a pro-people prediction. Unlike 2016 and 2020, the polls may not underweight Trump in 2024. In 2016 he did have the momentum of what I think of as a failed peasants' revolt behind him. Especially in ailing Rust Belt communities. In 2020 Democrats did weak grassroots organizing because of COVID. But since 2020, Democrats have often been underweighted in polls. In 2024 Harris has driven grassroots organizing and GOTV up. While the lagging and low energy Trump campaign depends heavily on paid canvassers with no particular loyalty to anything other than getting paid. If Harris wins, which my soothsayer Alan Lichtman says is inevitable, it will be in part because she inspired millions of informed and motivated voters to do something. That's how you beat a social disease. That's how you beat ignorance.

The first bar is Tawan, at its previous location. The bar in the second video is Boyz Boyz Boyz (BBB) in Pattaya. They used to have very entertaining shows before it was, unfortunately, taken over by the Mainland Chinese.

The role of social media and "big data" may mean that superspreaders will continue to haunt us long after Trump is hunched over his walker, and/or confined to prison. Trump used terms like “drain the swamp,” “crooked Hillary,” “deep state” and “lock her up." Yet those terms were invented by the likes of British enterprise Cambridge Analytica and Steve Bannon who was associated with them. Hopefully the messages of truth and joy will overpower the pathogens, though I worry how in the future we'll be able to hear the truth. Perhaps the world will come to understand that leaders that partner with the likes of Cambridge Analytica (now defunct but replaced by others), and that try to control the news media, ultimate goal is to enrich themselves at our expense. Chinese billionaire and associate of Steve Bannon arrested in $1 billion fraud conspiracy, officials say Who is Guo Wengui, the Chinese billionaire who owns the boat Steve Bannon was arrested on?

Thank you very much for sharing your first experience with all of us! Seems that you have a blast of a trip! Hope your next trip will be soon

I did read the whole thing, and found it thoughtful and intriguing. You are not the only one fearful of another Trump Presidency. Anyone familiar with ME knows I have been pretty much consumed since Trump lost the last one, and fearful he might return because his mission was UNfinished. Everything you wrote about Trump is True, and you would think any sane rational person WOULDN'T want him in power again. YET it appears a huge swath of America likes what this man represents, and wants him back in the White House. I truly believe they dont understand what it would mean FOR THEM, falsely believing that THEY will be exempted from any hard core actions Trump takes against citizens and non-citizens of this country. I think they believe that IF they are Trump supporters, nothing he does will be meant for THEM, so they continue to egg him on and lift him up to where it seems he already has one foot in the White house door. And even IF he loses, we will not be rid of him since he lost in 2020 and has been assaulting Americans and the democratic process since then, and will do the same if he loses 2024. So either way, we are damned to at least 4 more years of Trump, unless he loses and is sent to prison, which I dont believe will EVER happen with our current Supreme court. I dont think that Jack Smiths October surprise will have any effect on polling results or peoples opinions, since most people are set in their decision even IF they choose not to admit it. I dont know what has to happen to break the Trump fever in this country, or at least tilt favor substantially in Harris's direction. Any misstep she might have will tank HER numbers, but NOTHING he does will affect HIS.....Not even his wife wants to be his first lady, but that means nothing to his supporters as well.... So all we can do is pray for a miracle and cast our vote. Stop focusing on policy and foreign wars, the economy and all that other bullshit which will mean Nothing in a Trump Presidency, where the only thing that will matter to Trump is TRUMP.....This election is about Democracy or dictatorship, full stop, period...... You asked for our thoughts, after hearing MINE I bet you regret That ?

HotMale and Dreamboys Pattaya. I like show at XBoys Pattaya but not so much their boys with 1-2 exceptions. In Pattaya Classic boys I did not have pleasure to visit yet, I liked an atmosphere in ToyBoys but only few boys I found attractive, ABomb last time I tried to visit did not have any boys. I did not visit Winners not Nice Boys for more than year and BoyzBoyzBoyz were total disapointment last time - noisy , smoky , all boys bar 2 or 3 totally dressed sand off fee extortionate 1050 baht. In Bangkok those 3 named above are the best for me. I like Jupiter's boys look but don't like their management mandated disinterested look so rarely off from there although last few offs were at least satisfactory. Tawan was my favorite for years to a point of having one trip monodiet offing all my guys from there during trip minus one night but recently boys and mamasan are bit too pushy for both tips and offs for my taste and my last off from there was disappointing sand bag. Dreamboys , GoodBoys and FreshBoys I try to visit every trip but those are not my usual hunting guys. Too many guys at Dreamboys are hailing from soi twilight era and other two are twinks kingdom so not for me although I like an atmosphere in GoodBoys and even like one of mamasans there

of course you will, you don't want to rot in hell for missing it. As spoon said, off fee is 500, only for models is 1000 and you will clearly know who is who as models have their separate parade on the stage. And who knows, you may even say to yourself " hell with extra 500 , lets off that or this guy. Be warned though, models expect and likely get higher tips than floor boys but floor boys are aplenty and quite a few are equally attractive as model stable seems to be in need of update.

I messaged my friend today to tell him I want interested in going to the sauna. I explained that unlike him, I prefer younger guys. He understood and we agreed we'd meet again at the cinema. He responded that he'd like to spend time having naked fun together. The only problem is, I can't bring guys back to my hotel and he is sharing am apartment with someone. There's always the option of a short -time hotel but they are always booked out at night. He works during the day.

The loss of waiters slows down the serving of drinks and collection of bin tabs. Whereas the number of waiters is limited to perhaps 6-8, there can be three dozen or more boys on stage. Lose 10 or so of them to offs doesn't prevent putting on a show. Weekends are the busiest periods so management wants to discourage customers from offing waiters. They've been known to refuse waiter offs if their absence would impinge on keeping things running smoothly. If you want to spend time with a waiter, you can also arrange to meet him off the clock (post work or before work).

Great report. You doing very well for a newbie. Glad to hear Arena did not disappoint you, they rarely do, if at all. Satisfaction guaranteed there if you ask me. Sorry to hear about Tawan guys chasing you out by being pushy. Sadly , it looks it's how they chose to operate under new management and you not only one being chased away by their antics. It used to be friendliest bar by far. You mentioned you think barkers (promoters) at Moonlight overlooked you because way you were dressed . Highly unlikely though, nothing wrong with black t-shirt and shorts. Give a chance to Banana Club in soi 4 as well as Jupiter deeper in in the same soi. Don't forget about Dreamboys on the 2nd floor opposite of HotMale and Moonlight which is favorite bar of undersigned, he, he. Mahanakhon skywalk is the must, mornings are usually less crowded. While there make sure to check toilet on the same floor elevators down are - quite possible best toilet view in the entire world ! As per losing what you typed, those accidents happen. Try to write report somewhere and only then copy and paste there. You may wish to make more posts but shorter ( say one or two days goings per post ). Make sure you have fun day and night, there's no trip to Thailand like first one

Great Post, thanks. I have used Mac, on and off for over 5 years, he is very good, but sometimes difficult to contact. He has had personal issues, which I hope are improving, as he is a nice guy, as well as knowledgeable. Sorry to hear about his phone, but I notice, typical of Mac, he didn't ask you to buy a new one. Many people would. On one visit he had broken down trainers, and I offered to buy him a new pair. But he refused. I also asked him to come to the hotel, le Meridien, to join me for breakfast, as my rate includes 2 people, and I almost had to force him to eat! On the tour to Amphawa, he only ordered the minimum for his lunch!

They still do the "first to cum" bit, which I could do without, but zero penetration, including orally. Silom Serene Boutique Hotel is another great stay, just across the street at the other end of the lane Tawan is on. Nice pool. very well equip gym, wear what you want Yes, Muscle Factory is a must for those into hardcore workouts amongst the fellow big boys! I sweat it out there a few times per visit.... and I mean SWEAT as it is completely without air conditioning! As a soft westerner I could not do daily workouts there, but the viewing is great!

Not a BL, but a new travel VLOG channel with Mew + Tul. First episode about Mongolia (still on my travel list).

Phuwin interview in English. With his hot tiddies out the whole time

Spent a few weeks in Manila and Boracay. This section isn’t very active, so thought I’d type up a quick report. Stayed in Makati in Manila, near the red light district. I would avoid this area. It’s very congested with traffic and filled with people asking for money and trying to sell you viagra and cialis on the streets. It’s not dangerous, but a stark difference when compared to BGC. Public transit is poor in the city so you will be taking Grab a lot. Walking is harder than in other Asian countries due. The traffic flow made more sense in Vietnam than here, for example. Sometimes the traffic light would be red, yet a traffic attendant would still be directing traffic to keep moving, even as a group of pedestrians tried to cross on a walk signal. It literally makes no sense, so don’t try and comprehend it. There is no “rule.” Even motorcycle drivers seem less capable of navigating around pedestrians as compared to Vietnam, where as long as you keep a steady pace, you can cross even the busiest streets. Most hotels have security/doormen. If you invite anyone over, they will often take the ID of your guest and register them in a log book. When the guest leaves, you will be checked on and made sure you’re okay before the guest is allowed to leave. You can get past this by walking your guest in and out, but if you are nervous of people knowing your business, keep in mind that it’s impossible to be discreet. I used Grindr only while here. It’s very active. In Makati, there were tons of profiles less than 500m away. If you are white, you will get 50 messages per day or more. the typical conversation goes like “Hello, where are you staying? What are you doing? Can I come now?” They don’t ask for photos or nudes or talk for long. If you’re white, they want you regardless of age or weight or dick size or sex position. Almost everyone is a “top.” The men are… well, not my type. When compared to other Asian countries, the men on the apps are young and cute-faced, with either thin bodies or chubby bodies. Their dicks are often quite small, 3-5” in length, but usually on the thicker side. Every is circumcised. They are often quite poorly done. The sex skill seems to be quite poor as well. Many tops (and even bottoms) will cum in a few minutes. Or they will fuck for a minute, take a break, fuck for a minute, take a break, etc. Many are into side fun, either cuddling or just receiving a blowjob. Normally I am for this, but the dicks are often not fun to suck due to their length and thickness. “Moneyboys” are available, or as they say, MT, or massage therapist. Many will offer you massage and extra services, where you pay one price for a massage, one price for a massage and sucking, and another price for massage and penetration. While I have no qualms with paying, I found it hilarious the guys offering these services. Often they were quite ugly, older, or very chubby. As someone who pays for big dicks or muscular builds, I could not find either for free OR paid. 200+ unique profiles messaged me, so it wasn’t due to lack of options. Many men are discreet here. They will either have no photo, a photo of scenery, an older photo from 10 years ago, or bad photos of themselves. Many times you will ask for nudes and they say “I don’t have.” You have a phone, right? Instead they will push you to come immediately. Avoid these encounters. If you invite someone over, expect them to stay a while, or try. Expect questions like “do you have a boyfriend?” Or “can we be boyfriends?” Within minutes of meeting. If you have sex, it’s not uncommon for them to say they love you. If they message you, be upfront about not being interested, otherwise they will continuously message you every single day, and sometimes even find your social media profiles and reach out there. I did not see a lot of foreigners in Manila. Many said they go to the islands. In Boracay though, it was the exact same. Many say the options are better here. This was not the case. While some of the locals are quite hot, dark skinned, lean and somewhat muscular, a little rough around the edges, these are the straight boat men. On the apps, it’s the same. Chubby, or older, or very young, and clingy. The beaches are beautiful and you don’t get harassed as much as other beach destinations, but this country is not one I’d go to for sex. Unless you are looking for smaller dicks, boys that will cling to you like you’re a trophy, and headaches, I’d say this is not your place.

Do you check the dates when the profiles were opened in garotocom? I am not 100% sure, but I think the site does not archive the ads after the garotos stop paying and checking them. You may have a higher rate of response on featured ads because those are current, active, paying GPs.

Fercho's is still hosting monthly finca parties. He posts the events on his WhatsApp. Tickets are 100.000COP and any activities with the boys are additional cost. The last event (Jan 18) was in Barbosa, about 45 minutes north of Medellín. El Sillón Rojo has also advertised finca events, but I suspect those are more of an open orgy-sex event and not with scorts, although they do feature different hosts daily who are there to get the sex started. There are also several active sex clubs and sex events around Medellín. The Angel's Naked Party is hosting a big event in February in Centro. So plenty of options.