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It's true that I off someone from a bar only about once in 4 or 5 bar visits. Even when I do, I often won't write about it. Firstly, there is not a lot I want to say about sex in the room. Secondly, it's not what my blog is intended for. You may have noticed that even when sex follows a massage, the massage visit report doesn't include any description of the gymnastics (outside editorial policy,😉). Thirdly, the majority of my visits to Bangkok are work-related, which means that I don't stay in the Silom area and I have to get up at "normal" hours in the morning. Taking a bar boy at 11pm would be impractical compared to booking a 6pm or 7pm massage. Fourthly, it is 50 - 100% costlier to get a bar boy than a massage, for no assurance of better performance. Even if I am not on a work trip and therefore have the luxury of time, the years have had an impact. Whereas I could happily do a massage-plus in the day followed by off'd-boy in the night, I don't have the energy or interest to keep up with such a pace anymore. Once a day is now enough. Moreover, over the years I have acquired a short list of bar boys and massage boys whom I contact directly to come to my room. If it's a bar boy and during evening hours, I'd still have to pay the off fee, but I wouldn't have taken him from a bar (at least, not directly), which means I don't have to pay 500 baht for drinks and be pestered by mamasans. I do not write about such come-to-my-hotel appointments. Because they are "regulars" - even if not that frequent - the sessions I have with them are generally more satisfying. In this respect, I actually have 2 Tawan guys on that shortlist, compared to just one from Fresh Boy (and last I heard, he's not even working there anymore), plus a growing number from other bars and massage places. There have been trips to Bangkok where I don't visit the bars at all; between massage visits and shortlisted boys coming to my hotel, I am busy enough. All these factors considered, offing a boy from a bar is indeed becoming a rarity. Nowadays, the main value I get from visitng a bar is to find fresh new faces once in a while, and if they perform well, they get added to the shortlist.

A difficult subject. It wasn't an issue for me when I was a newbie but it became one over the years, not because of the physical reactions of the two of us but due to my emotional responses to what was happening, both during and after the event. This maybe because I'd lived "straight" until my forty-fifth year and from then onwards, ninety percent plus of my gay sexual life was in Thailand, with mbs. I'm not a rarity in this regard; many of the falang guys I met in Pattaya in the late 90s were the same as me in in age, background and experiences. The transition from a repressed sexuality to the freedom and enjoyment of expression was wonderful. And complex. In those days, the years before I met my partner, I looked for, perhaps even needed, an element of reciprocity, even if at some level I accepted that it all was part of the game. My partner admitting to not being gay would have complicated this. I knew it was an illusion and that truth was often concealed. But it was what I required emotionally. Younger gay men may not always remember the struggles my generation went through when what we most deeply desired was declared both illegal and wicked and that disclosure would have resulted in a term in prison and ended my career. In some respects, we remain marked by this even in our joyful liberation, a liberation for which I shall always remain grateful to Thailand. And its mbs.

Excellent post, I am now into my 70s and this mirrors my own experience back in the UK. Pattaya was my liberation, with the slow release of the closet door as my confidence grew. Even so the gay side to my nature is still only known to a few back in the UK. But back to the topic, I split my time in Pattaya between 'straight' boys and gays, and usually its a top v bottom distinction as well. Some of the tops arrive at my room already, as they strip off, visibly 'ready, willing and able' to perform the task in hand. Many are happy to kiss, suck, and, in rare instances, bottom as well. Some need to watch (or pretend to need to watch) hetro porn on their phone as they fuck you, some do not. Some perform with obvious enthusiasm and seem to be enjoying what they do. Some straight guys will be grabbing a towel and heading off to the shower seconds after they have cum and disengaged, while others will linger, cuddle, and try and get you off if you haven't done already. There are so many different scenarios depending on the individual boy. But as a consequence, some are invited back time after time, and holiday after holiday, while others are thanked, paid and forgotten. So I don't think there is a simple answer to the actual sexuality or bi-sexuality of Pattaya's straight boys, they each fit within a broad spectrum (as do we all as customers I suspect). My preference is for those that at least appear to enjoy their 'work'.

This is a comment to Macaroni’s blogpost on google reviews here: I have also noticed this practice at Ssense and it goes deep. The masseurs that you find in the Line lineup of Ssense that you use if you make a reservation is ranked according to the number of reviews they got. A prize is handled out every month to the top 3. So you see now that Knott got first place in August, that is he was mentioned most the number of times in google reviews, whereas TongTong came in second place the number of times he was mentioned in google reviews in August and he is listed just after Knott in Line. Presumably the rankings will change in October to reflect the number of mentions in September. A masseur like Chok who has been with the parlour for a long time and has presumably amassed some experience comes towards the end of listings. The ranking is not based on masseur skill. These google reviews do influence the choice of masseur of at least one poster on this forum who explicitly changed his booking from Chok as he simply wasn’t mentioned too often in google reviews. I also see that repeat customers are simply updating their old reviews with new dates if they have been treated by another masseur or the same masseur on multiple occasions. They simply add dates to the text. I can’t say I like this management practice. However I generally don’t rely on google reviews as they wouldn’t mention the aspects that I’m interested in. There are special massage reviewers who publish in closed Line chat groups which provides you with a review of the “extras” as well as the type of shop it is.

I didn't see this announced in the Bangkok Post, but here are a couple links stating the new Electronic Travel Authorization will not begin this December as planned. Originally set to begin in December 2024, the launch date for the Electronic Travel Authorization (ETA) system remains undecided due to the need for further coordination with relevant agencies. https://www.globe.co.th/news/thailand/thailand-postpones-launch-of-automated-tourist-entry-system/

No trains in the floating market. They'd sink.

Postponed? Very few of us who know Thailand, I think, are surprised. "Not fully thought out", yup that applies to a lot of hare-brained ideas from successive Thai governments. I wouldn't even be surprised that some minister's relative owns an IT company and has pitched the idea to the minister who then ...

Being in Bangkok last Christmas and New Year I found that Hotel prices were significantly higher than in mid January for example. I also found less availability of guys online and more competition in the bars. Prime Massage were booked solid for three days ahead! More likely to go in February in future.

I discovered this forum when Tawan Bar closed and I was looking for info. I have since been lurking, but having just returned from my latest BKK stay felt I should report for those with any concerns about our beloved bar. Firstly I have visited BKK twice a year, every year since 2013. I stay for 1 week and spend most nights in Tawan (as it will always be known to me) I don’t bother with any other bar as I am into big muscle only! On my first visits to Tawan 11 years ago, in the original venue across the road, there was a DJ who provided cheeky sound effects to what the guys were doing on the stage, along with quips and comment throughout the show. This made it all so much more lively and fun than what it has become. The shows themselves were far more hardcore and sexual. They could certainly revive some of these features today. Fast forward to my visit last week, 3 nights in the bar. I am happy to report it is the same beast that she has been of recent years. if not of it's former glory. On night one the boys were few and not the greatest quality, but there were 2 I would consider my type. The crowd was very small, I did have concerns for its future. The 2nd and 3rd nights the place was packed with boys, there were 3-4 that would work for me, and it was a full crowd. A much brighter picture all round! There were enough different body types to appeal to all tastes, several off season bodybuilder types for me to choose from Thankfully the guys are still as friendly and welcoming as ever, it does help that I have a muscled build (yes that is me in my avatar) and they never fail to swarm around me and give me extra attention! As much as I love the place it does have many faults, all easily fixed, and would make it a far better experience: - The new manager is too pushy, trying to get you to drink more, and insisting ion a 150B tip each round just for bringing them.Also demanding tips during parts of the show quite forcefully. On one night I watched uncomfortably as he plied a young obviously drunk customer with more drinks, trying over and over to force boys onto the customer, as well as himself. This guy needed to be sent home and instead he was getting his wallet siphoned. - The boys looking bored on stage, faces stuck in phones pre and after show, this does nothing to generate interest or enthusiasm. Phones should be banned on stage! Give the boys something to do, if they have a skill or hobby it would be great seeing them doing it on stage. Solving a Rubik’s Cube, jumping rope, dribbling a ball, doing a few dumbbell curls…. anything but standing there bored! (the guy next to me asked if this was the show when they were up there with faces in phones!) - Get rid of the drag from the show… this is not the right venue or audience for drag, we are there to see MEN! - The shows need to be more hardcore (if allowed) Although I did have a laugh during the “BDSM” show when one was whipping the other with a thick foam tube, it made a hell of a noise, but certainly delivers no pain…yet 2 separate guys left covering their eyes in horror, bless em And bring back the cheeky DJ with the fun commentary through the show. - Advertising… ZERO! This is crazy, particularly after the reopening! If anyone knows the management and can speak fluently PLEASE get them off their ass and do some publicity! Twitter, Insta, Facebook, Tic Tok, ad noisome are all free. Tawan Bar has a page on each, all have been neglected for years, They need to get a few posts up a few times a month. They have been open 20+ years and no one I talk to in Australia knows they exist! On top of that every local I spoke to while there thought it was still closed and were shocked led when I said Id been going every night! This bar has the potential to be so much more successful with just a few tweaks… It remains my favourite bar and I hope to see it thrive into the future!

I think I have 😉 When it has happened, I had exchanged LINE ID's with the guy and did it outside of the shop. They are, after all, free agents in SK.

Agree +1, though I would have phrased the last part slightly differently to give more nuance to the words "appear to enjoy" - Preference for those that are smart and intuitive enough to give the illusion that they like and appreciate the time with me.

There should be a health warning that pops up before you read most UK news websites. They "adapt" stories to ensure maximum clickbait rage. I'd be very surprised if the facts of the story were accurate. They frequently have to retract and remove articles because the people involved in the article complain and threaten to sue. It still makes them money, because they get clicks for the 24 -48 hours the story is live; and thats about the useful lifetime of an online article anyway. I'm for genederless toilets. Privacy assured by cubicles. And let society address the root of the problem of why women feel like they need safe spaces from men.

I think it just as likely that the men's room was full so he just decided, "fuck it, I'm pissing in the other one." We have a gaming pub/restaurant here in portland that has a single huge bathroom. Everything is a completely private stall, everyone uses the same bathroom. Caught me a bit by surprise the first time being an old codger, but it works really well. Like reader said, it just makes sense.

It depends on what they complain about. If the women complain that the man acted inappropriately, he should be confronted. If he dressed as a woman, and was obviously just trying to blend in, and she was just being a bitch, then you might explain that the women's room includes those who were assigned male at birth, but identify as women.

yes you can like Obama used to say

Some of the guys are so good looking! Can I just skip massage and spend entire one hour holding hands and admiring? Hehe

I just use eSIMs now. Started with Airalo, but now mostly use Nomad. Prices are good and it works on arrival. It does not come with a local phone number though. I use WhatsApp or whatever for verbal communication.

I got a 7 day sim at the airport, the ludicrous new airport at Siem Reap, just outside, where you pick up hotel car etc. Very reasonably priced.

It happened a few times to me that i got 1 day free data with limited speed for my AIS sim card when i switched it on on arrival. I always use the same simcard and recharge it.

There have been some small updates / corrections regarding this event. https://asiapacificpress.com/648/italian-tourist-66-dies-naked-falling-from-condo-in-pattaya-thailand In summary, what we know so far is: Italian citizen, The above news article has named this person as, Fausto Chiossi, from Capri, Italy, Previously, his age was reported as 57, but instead the above news article states that he was 66 years old, Condo he was renting was on the 19th floor - parking lot facing part of the building - as shown in the video in the above referenced news article. The above article states the following: '.... The man's body will undergo a post-mortem exam to find the exact cause of his death.' Consequently, I have asked one of my good Italian friends to monitor the local news in Italy to see if anything has been reported over in Italy. I have also checked Italian news sources and it appears that nothing has yet been posted about this tragic event. Perhaps the post-mortem exam has not yet been handed over to the Italian embassy in Bangkok ? Today I went to Ayutthaya with the 2 women who clean my condo, with one of their husbands, and we discussed this event at great length - I can share the following additional information - but it is NOT substantiated - and is just hearsay. The additional information is that several cleaners were requested to clean Mr Chiossi's room - as it was (unsubstantiated) reported that there was a lot of blood and disorder to clean up. On the day that solicitations went out to recruit cleaners - my 2 cleaners were not available - and after hearing what the other cleaners saw, they told me that they were glad that they were not available on that day. I can state that many of my fellow farang neighbors are quite concerned about this event. In addition, the security team has greatly increased their controls - as some of my Thai friends have not been permitted to come upstairs (for the last 18 months they have been allowed to come up on their own) and I had to come downstairs to retrieve them and one of the security team specifically asked me if I would be ok with my guests - for which I replied - all is good - they are from the beach volleyball team. Then after our meeting concluded, I went down with my 2 guests to let security know that I am alive and ok. When I know more I will post about it here.

for some people mirror will do

Excellent observation. I will further add, that when they are gay - it starts to get more into the areas of: who are you dating?, why are you paying for MBs?, why are you single? for me - this is too much drama - just let us keep it fun without too much deviation from what was agreed to. If we agree to see each other many more times - then I might be willing to answer the above questions. Straight or bi guys just don't care and I never feel like there has been an invasion of privacy - especially for this type of transaction.

If they perform and make me feel like they enjoyed fucking, I'm fine. Doesn't matter how they identify. None of them are going to fuck me without a pay day, so what difference should it make to me? Do some people really hold the fantasy that these guys are secretly hot for you? That if they're gay they'll fall for you? The only thing they're going to fall for is your wallet. Every couple of years we get some sad story about someone who fell for a money boy and it ended exactly like you'd think it would. Fuck with the little head, don't think with it.

I don’t think so, as far as I recall at that time people were paying in advance on site at the time of booking, and there was a queue to book!

police should upload those video clips here for consultation by people in the know

They still do the "first to cum" bit, which I could do without, but zero penetration, including orally. Silom Serene Boutique Hotel is another great stay, just across the street at the other end of the lane Tawan is on. Nice pool. very well equip gym, wear what you want Yes, Muscle Factory is a must for those into hardcore workouts amongst the fellow big boys! I sweat it out there a few times per visit.... and I mean SWEAT as it is completely without air conditioning! As a soft westerner I could not do daily workouts there, but the viewing is great!

and after living here now for 2 years as a new retiree - I can DEFINITELY agree with your above statement.

From Bangkok Post The water level in the Chao Phraya River, which runs past tambon Phong Pheng in the Pa Mok district of Ang Thong and tambon Ban Kum and Bang Chanee in the Bang Ban district of Ayutthaya, continues rising on Saturday. (Photo: Nakhon Sawan Public Relations Office) The Chao Phraya Dam burst its banks on Saturday, sending out a large volume of water to inundate low-lying areas located outside flood embankments in Pa Mok district of Ang Thong province. Three villages in tambon Phong Pheng were affected by the flood situation, with more than 20 houses submerged under 40 to 50 centimetres of floodwater. Montri Torsillapakit, chairman of Phong Pheng tambon administration organisation, on Saturday led officials to put up sandbags to reinforce flood walls and build earthen dykes. Raksak Thienchai, chief of Pa Mok district, said relief items would be distributed to help affected households after the Chao Phraya Dam in Chai Nat discharged water downstream at the rate of 1,899 cubic metres per second. Over 20 houses outside flood embankments were inundated, he added. The Royal Irrigation Department (RID) had previously warned 11 central provinces along the Chao Phraya River to prepare for rising water levels, as the Chao Phraya Dam in Chai Nat accelerated water drainage. RID acting director-general Det Lekwichai issued the warning on Thursday to the governors of Uthai Thani, Chai Nat, Sing Buri, Ang Thong, Suphan Buri, Ayutthaya, Lop Buri, Pathum Thani, Nonthaburi, Samut Prakan and Bangkok. https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2873753/chao-phraya-dam-bursts-banks-flooding-communities-in-ang-thong

and things like that are reasons I always advocate and even better , practice 'go and see " approach. On one of last days of my Aug trip I passed by Prestige massage by Chong Nonsi station and by chance spotted one of their masseurs presumably going to work. While face betrayed it's guy I knew from their ads he was both much taller (bonus) and much more slim ( minus) than guy from their ads.

One can only hope it's not just a bait. Just minutes ago I was perusing Line feed of one of most popular massage shops in BKK ( not in Saphan Kwai) and I noticed size 56 labelled to a guy well known to me who has many advantages and assets but S56 in not one of them

@Kiwi306 don't keep us on tenterhooks 😲 tell us more about Muscle Factory. What kind of place is it? A bar? A sauna? A naked waiter fine dining restaurant? A car wash? Where exactly in On Nut?

Nope.

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Expect lots of tourists from China during Golden Week holiday 1st October to 7th October!

Buy an SIM card and use a VPN. You really want prostitute bars collecting you data? Damn...

Any sex act with strangers (be it hookup, at bath house, gogo dancer, massage parlor) carries risk. One way to mitigate STI is through taking DoxyPrep which reportedly reduces 87% chance. Wondering if you had unprotected sex (anal) and whether you saw any symptoms like blisters or wound

A beautiful African man 😍😍on Grindr Bangkok says he has a big 🍆I imagine he would be in the 3k to 5k price range

Relax. There is always an emerging "new" panic around Colombia travel. You wouldn't believe the "expert" opinions shared with me when I first traveled to the country and fell in love with Medallo. Perhaps because Narcos on Netflix was popular at the time? Medellín as a whole is less dangerous that most similarly sized cities in North America. The barrios where there are higher rates of violent crimes are ones you are highly unlikely to visit during your first trip. Skipping this city will leave a big to-do on your travel list. Don't let a few negative stories detract you from visiting the city. There is much to see and do, and the paisas are certain to charm the pants off of you. Literally. Cheers. Edit - BTW, if you are still planning to be there in early January 2025, I am around. Happy to meet up and introduce you to some locals and the main spots.

The bigger that the cocks are the harder they are to fill with blood and keep hard. As demonstrated by the use of rubber bands and vacuum pumps for big cock shows.

There are a few in the Big Cock shows in Boyztown who must also be in the 8 inch or 9 inch range. But 'size' also depends on thickness as well as length. Thing about these big cocks for me, is that they can be impressive to see and hold and stroke, but I wouldn't be wanting them anywhere near my ass! 😂

I think it was mentioned a few weeks ago that the bar had been sold to a new (woman) owner. This, if true, might account for the name change, but also the utterly clueless way they go about running a business. The previous owner was an obviously gay man; he probably understood his customers and set operational policies accordingly. Even so, it was interesting you reported on a busy bar two nights out of three. It was also unusually busy at a twink bar: Fresh Boy, when I visited recently. See my report at https://shamelessmacktwo.travel.blog/

I once asked my Thai other half, "what does Christmas Day celebrate?" His response "Father Christmas's birthday". Close enough.

It's crowded and festive that week and through the New Year. Nice time to visit if you're looking for a different time of year than your past visits.

Anyone with a 23 cm cock who is NOT a money boy needs his head read!

Fully agree with you on both accounts. On my last trip on few occasions I was surprised to a point of being taken aback of how freely they passed easy option to make substantially more. Their choice I thought but being happy I was not.

indeed. I'm not asking them how they label themselves but noticed that those who stick to the "straight' label tend to be more business oriented and less inclined to look for exceptions and excuses but tend to stick to they promised or committed themselves to . In short more prone to do good job they are paid for.

For me, they should enjoy the work. In an ideal world, everyone would do work that they enjoy. In making certain choices, I can encourage that ideal world to exist. Or at least pretend to myself it does. That said, reality is reality. Someone doing sex work who doesn't enjoy doing sex work is being exploited. But is the exploitation different if someone who doesn't enjoy mining for cobalt or diamonds or whatever, does so because the altenative is starving to death?

Or long-time, as Vinapu would point out!

There has been a lengthy discussion of this issue under another heading. I don't want to repeat all the arguments. I just want to say that if a guy genuinely is happy to have sex with you, OK for money, and performs well, then I am not concerned if he identifies as straight or gay. If you get good sex, and he is happy, then it doesn't matter if he goes home to his wife and kids, as many do. You might say that you get better sex with a guy who identifies as gay, but I don't think that is always the case. I don't ask a guy if he identifies as gay or straight, I ask if he is happy with the type of sex I want, for the relevant time. Philosophical issues on the meaning of 'straight', can be left over!