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Day 12 Sleeping with problem helped, First joy of saving 2500 last night. Second I have some consolators in Bkk and decided to employ them ASAP, send 2 Line messages and responses came after I returned from breakfast with bkkmfj. So day started to look bright. Then I found another 1500 $ in savings – I was thinking about October trip and planned on making decision after I return home. No need to wait till return, I don’t come. Last gossips with bkkmfj who is returning to Pattaya today, then walk from Raya to Sukhumvit through Lumpini and back to cool me down ( yaeh, big cooling in 30 degrees heat but it helped ). One of those morning messages was from boy not from the scene who I meet 1-2 times every trip. He comes whenever he wants and we never take offence if one of us doesn’t have time for another. Today he said he is free before work (works nights) and at 3pm I greeted him downstairs. We always order some food , he did it right away after entering in and in several minutes we were feasting on some Thai treats and Chang beer from my fridge. Quite romantic afternoon, I swear, even if I said nothing he sensed I’m distressed because he was much more tender than normally. At one point he even joked “now I go because I’m your day boy but for sure you will get another one for the night”. Prophet or what ? I wondered. Big rain in the evening and I’m sure he came to work quite soaked. Today I decided to see Fresh Boys, rarely visited bar by me as it specializes in twinks and that is not my usual diet. Bar was half full for the show , likely owing to that rain. Show quite progressive with plenty flesh and stiffies visible and touchable for a fee as artists are circulating audience offering feel for a tip. Boys many not necessarily be my type but there were 3 or 4 I’d take without any fuss. And somehow they felt it as exactly the same guys were cruising me quite actively . At 11 pm S came - that was my another morning message. He paid his off fee already so I reimbursed him promptly. Since he also came bit soaked I proceed to dry him out by taking shower together. We have our routine and there’s no need to worry about early leaving and other antics. In course of conversation he suggested if I want I can see his room tomorrow. Gladly agreed. So after very crappy night, great day and night followed.

Day 11, part 1 Good night sleep after Y left till 9 , then breakfast with bkkmfj an latest round of gossip. Every trip I make trek to Central Rama IX as I have reliable information that one of my most memorable guys ever, one M from Senso if now hairdresser there. I don’t have any sinister motived but would like to shake his hand after all those years. Unfortunately this was my 4th or 5th attempt and I did not see him there. Oh, well , will try next time , it’s only 6 MRT stops from Silom. I returned to Sam Yan station ready to walk to Raya but bus 45 handily came to it’s stop and I went to Main Post Office as I has something to buy there. Since they started to but English sign on stops I found myself using buses more and more in Bangkok, not fastest way to go around but cheap and interesting. Ordinary bus it’s only 8 baht, AirConditioned about 20. There was some discussion on forum about Prince and I volunteered to go and check as place lately is completely unheralded here. It’s quite a walk from Raya , perhaps 30 minutes but it’s nothing for somebody who walks from Patpong to Moonlight regularly. When I approached courtyard some masseur emerged from the door, few more steps and we both were kind of shocked. James from Arena ! He used to be my semi-regular there alternating with Dit, I offed him few times and we even parted was last time I offed him in kind of disagreement over tip. Of course now it all forgotten. 8 long years ( actually upon returning home I checked my notes and last time we met was Nov 2014 so 10 years ) since I saw him and must say while he aged a bit on the face , body stays in as great shape as it was then, no fat , no belly , six pack still firm an as I discovered not long after, nor only six pack which is firm. I know that for a while he was at Sabaidee but never managed to see him there. So selection wise obviously I was set before even opening door. He was surprised I even remember his name and I was surprised he remembered our last off was in Patpong hotel (Pavillion). While he was reading himself for a session I had a good look inside. It all was it was there and in Hero previously , big glass wall and behind her dozen and half hunks , most of them smiling and pointing at themselves , trying to get my attention. I could take almost anybody present , standard is so high. Few familiar faces from apps and Line feeds of other shops and I noticed also Jack. Never had a pleasure with him , spotted him on my last day of Jan 2023 trip in one of soi 6 shops but he was not available , waiting for booked client already. Another member who was in BKK at the time engaged him few times and gave him BIG seal of approval. We couldn’t meet today as I already fixed James and mamas an told me he is already booked again. Reunion with James was happy one, massage was over standard, after all 10 more years of practice. We even exchanged Line and till end of trip I was getting messages in the morning and in the evening regularly of “I miss you , come to see me again”. They sensibly stopped as soon as I announced I’m on my way to the airport few days later. Prince is one of those upscale shops with prices to match. 1.5 hr massage course is 1500 and min tip 2000, I upped it by 200 and got impression that James kind of expected even more but said nothing. He told me shop is busy but almost all, he used 95% figure customers are Chinese. Few of them were perusing selection when I arrived and few were doing the same when I left. I don’t like post too long so it will be 2nd part of day 11

This is an understatement - and I have a witness - the other forum member who was with us - as we both watched Vinapu get greeted in an amazing diplomatic politician kind of way - it was impressive to watch - as if to be with a rock star with his fans.... and I witnessed that amazingly fast transaction while you were in the loo..... It reminded me when my Thai friends brought me to pay merit at the Temple where there were many fish - the minute that you threw the Temple purchased fish food into the lake water there was a feeding frenzy - and that is what happened when you were in the loo....as I guess that Banana bar customer was eying your #31 ever so intensely.... I found this Jupiter seating arrangement interesting - as I had always sat down on the main level - and as you mentioned the guys rarely smile when doing their walk - you get that cold non-human feeling. Meanwhile, upstairs, we were able to see the guys banter, laugh, smile, joke with each other on the upper level - it was kind of surreal: upstairs = normal and fun, and also in certain corners there were clients enjoying their to-be offed guys - I remember the one behind me - who was hesitating to go downstairs for his catwalk - as he was embraced in the arms of his client that the main manager had to come over to remind him "that the show must go on..." downstairs = formal and serious For the next Jupiter visit I think that I would prefer the upstairs seating - as I enjoyed the more human feeling of that level Vinapu - you and I - were having simultaneous disasters at the same time within the walls of the Raya - only separated away from each other by 2 floors. My offed Hotmale guy falling asleep immediately in my bed with NO action and a limp dick due to him sleeping - no matter what I did and your guy leaving you after only 1 hour. @vinapu - had I known what was happening in your room - I would have said to you - ok Vinapu - you sleep in my bed with my sexy Burmese dead corpse and I sleep in your empty bed. I would have had a good night sleep (as I prefer to sleep alone) - as I only slept about 2 hours and you would have gotten that sexy warm body to cuddle with.....

Day 11 , part 2 Leaving Prince in the late afternoon I realized that my last meal was breakfast. So decided on destination Madrid Tavern in Charoen Krung soi 49. Brisk walk, after all I was just massaged by skilled and trained therapist, to ST Louis BTS , two stations to Saphan Taksin and then walk to KFC in Robinson complex for chat with other member who was feasting on their fare. I condemned idea right away, eating American fast food in city with such array of culinary delights looked like blasphemy for me but my friend was unfazed by my pontifications .After brief chat we parted ways and I continued to Madrid, about 10 minutes walk away. Greeted with smile as always, I did not need to say anything as lade only asked “usual” ? and in a second I had my Chang, no glass and soon heavenly smell of shallot with cherry tomatoes pizza filled the place. 365 total an finally not hungry. I returned by the bus. At 8pm both other members and me met at Foodland for our daily news exchange , discussed out todays destinations and decided to give a try to Banana club in soi 4. Both barkers were thrilled to see me being back in Bangkok, duly lowered their briefs for traditional red note distribution, one even followed us inside suggesting I by him a beer which I duly did because I like him , he knows that and is mercilessly exploiting it, he, he. At 9 pm bar was almost empty with handful of customers but there were 4 boys standing on the stage in front of us. All new faces and quite handsome, particularly # 31 whom I invited for a drink as soon as barker finished his beer and returned to his duties outside. Too bad I had other designs for tonight, otherwise I’d be offing him for sure. In meantime show started even if there were only few customers. Mostly ladyboy performers with lip-syncing but well receive but suddenly growing audience. At one point my guy excused himself an mentioned big c**k show and indeed in few minutes we could see him and few of his coworkers in their full glory. Me being idiot still stick to my original plan, in meantime other customer was intensely eyeing #31 who returned to sit with me after show and few minutes later mamasan came, all apologetic, to ask discretely if I will be offing boy. I told no, not today , then excused myself to go to the loo and after I returned few minutes later I was greeted by my friends with news ‘ you boy is already offed “ . I came as relief , otherwise I’d feel guilty an was even planning to give him 500 tip for his time with me but since he was offed, I figured red note will do. Then our trio decided to check Jupiter so we went to see that on this Saturday night bar was very well patronized , we ended being seated upstairs , not a bad vantage point as it turned out. Of course all boys as always kept their sober, unsmiling , management mandated disinterested look, nothing ne where. What was new it were quite a few guys, by my estimation at least half were new compared to my last visit in May. Sadly a bit varied quality and if usually I disclaim I could off anybody from there, from today’s selection I can say that about perhaps every second. Show at Jupiter becomes bit more progressive with stiffies visible for prolonged second quite a few times. Big step forward for hitherto bit reserved bar. Two Asian girls sitting beside invited two boys to seat with them and I wonder how it went as one of them was gay and total bottom as per me forum friend in the know. Not my problem though. After show was over we left. Next step was HotMale as my plan was to surprise S with another off an if he will be gone I had 3 other guys in mind. As it turned out second scenario materialized , on entry I was told “ your boy already taken” so I was to take reserves. One of guy there I’m eyeing for quite long time and when he finally look at me AND smiled I waved him over. Drink, “you go with me ? ” , yes, “long time?” yes ,” how much? ”, 4000 – he must know what I paid S last time , go. As is my habit I asked about him being hungry and we went to Foodland, he was not demanding , picking up something simple and we went to my room. It started well with script adhered too but after about 1 hr he asked for loo break. I noticed he took his phone with him. It was quite a long break , perhaps 15 mins and when he emerged said he got message from his brother and needs to go now . Another disaster but knowing from experience that refusal will lead nowhere I handed him 1500 which he took without the grimace, no wonder and left. It happened before. It will happen in future but for some reason since it was one of sequence of this type of behavior on this trip I was devastated . Even wondered what is possibly wrong with me. Now I fully understand lesbians who don’t want anything to do with guys. If I had option of going home in the morning I would. I had problem of putting myself together for few hours but finally went to bed to do what they say is supposed to be done with problem - sleep with it.

Good point. I've seen too many of our brethren actively plying young boys with cigarettes, potentially condemning them to a life of coughing and wheezing, addiction to high priced cigarettes, and potentially to lung and other cancers. No one should feel obliged to drink, smoke or do drugs of any kind. I should hasten to add "unsafe sex" to the list as well!

no, my last visit there was in Dec 2021 if you (or somebody else) want to read about that trip link is here and Chiang Mai section starts on page 5 https://www.gayguides.com/forums/topic/37210-third-time-lucky-december-2021-trip-to-thailand-in-covid-time/page/5/ Boys are there but I wouldn't go to CM to hunt the boys, rather to get some respite from heat of Bangkok and Pattaya and get some serious sightseeing. Chiang Mai main tittle of fame is being only city in the entire world where vinapu bought smartphone for his boy of few nights.

It's big world.....Indonesia maybe? I'm trying to add new places on every trip instead of running back to my favorites every time. This trip in Brazil I added Belo Horizonte, Next month I'm adding India on my way to my normal places in Asia, as well adding Siem Reap, never been and Bandung and Singapore ...so 4 new places next time. I'm In the beginning stages of March travel plans and have booked Laos and Sri Lanka, I'll see how that trip comes together and will add 1 or 2 more new places maybe.

If there's a takeaway from this trip it's the growing realization that a substantial number of boys on the game have--among themselves--colluded to nail down a maximum price with no intention of making good on their promise. Although they certainly have the right to bargain as hard as they can, they're undermining their intrinsic value by what amounts to fraud.

yes, thanks God for Russia Today and Komsomolskaya Pravda

Its distressing to see footage of the flooding north of Chiang Mai - towns like Thaton, Fang, Chiang Rai, Mae Sai - dirty brown water floods places you would never expect to see threatened by water. The beautiful Blue Temple in Chiang Rai surrounded by metre deep water- and sadly there have been fatalities. Chiang Mai itself although rained upon for several days has so far escaped any serious flooding and today has been relatively rain free. For visitors Chiang Mai old town is great for walking and exploring - innumerable innovative coffee shops, great street food and restaurants- markets- temples - massage shops The gay scene is not as it used to be - not as expansive or vibrant but places like Adams Apple,New Circle Club,Orion Bar, Connections Bar, Ram Bar keep the flame burning - all have Facebook sites. Chiang Mai venues have mainly lads from Myanmar - the Shan State in particular with ethnic backgrounds of Tai Yai and Lisu. Dark skinned? Well I guess they are compared to Moonlight models - and if they are outside working construction dark as you like. come visit

Home Spa is offering a promotional rate of 329 baht for one hour oil session through Sept. 15.

Trump's requirement for another debate are getting more particular. FOX isn't good enough. Perhaps Trump would agree to Steve Bannon hosting the debate from the recreation room at his prison? Just to ensure "fairness".

I'm going to be honest with you , I would have anxiety walking around say Soi bukhao with a young looking man who is probably 25 but looks 18 . Admit never had a problem but in that area a lot of homophobic people

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Great comments Bkk and I like them so let me comment back Yes , greeting in Banana was thrilling and self -esteem booster. It's how equivalent of bus fare where I live , tucked inside briefs by way of world famous and patented ' vinapu tuck" works I guess. ........................................... As for customer grabbing #31 faster than lightning, he did right thing through and through. Yes , he was sitting beside us and was watching boy intensely. He was sensible enough to ask mamasan to do right thing - ask me if I will be offing him. And he was smart and gentlemanly enough to grab boy when he knew he will be free to go but waited until I disappeared for that loo break to avoid awkward situation. In my opinion model bar behavior. Had he wait longer somebody else could be faster .................................................... Your analysis of Jupiter and it's boys is spot on. They are normal fun seeking boys. It's bar mandated disinterest which makes them looking cold and disinterested.. Next evening I was sitting at G'bangkok dining with birthday boy strategically seating by the walkway. Two Jupiter boys were walking with customer, no doubt offed. Seeing me they both smiled broadly , no doubt remembering me from being in the bar night or two before - I never offed them. One of highlights of this trip. .............................................................. That was very unfortunate we lost that option of swapping boy that lousy night. Next time , in Jan 2027 we need to communicate better, specially if staying in the same or nearby hotel. It would be fun , mother of all funs , when boy waked up in the morning seeing ugly old troll beside instead of handsome hunk you. In meantime I'd be happy to entertain his semi dead corpse - soon we learn it happened to me this trip and thank God for that. Bonus for guy likely would be two sets of tips, from you and me and I'd reimburse you half off fee as well It's second time such opportunity is wasted in recent memory. In July of last year 18past 19 who stay in hotel nearby and me offed 2 boys from Jupiter. Mine was supposed to be LT but after 3 hours gave up on my company and wanted to go home. 18past19's boy hired ST ( and one I salivated about then and I still do now - we did not see him this time ) expressed desire to stay till morning which 18 was not keen on. If we communicated I had a company to wipe my tears and boy two generous tips

But I want to be clear. It's not a pricing which made me feeling down on that trip. I was prepared to pay. In fact in exchanged back some money on my way out (6500 -more than one great overnighter ) It's overbearing feeling that some of them don't value our custom at all and feel free to lie and deceive for the sake of lousy buck. All bad memories with time will go away but one will stay with me for sure - I doubt I ever feel sorry reading that it's low season and boys are starving for customers as is was not an impression I left LOS with.

good news is , on day 11 I hit the bottom, after that things went up quite fast. But yes , it was frustrating, not only because delinquent boys but plenty petty nuisances - constant messaging 'when I will see you again, I miss you' type , or' tomorrow is my birthday , can we have dinner together " , excessive requests for tips in some bars - there Tawan stood out in wrong way, some unreasonable requests for tips for a session in the room, out of blue request by boys and staff to buy them 2nd drink or even more riling to buy a drink to mamasan. Those are small things easily overlooked but when accumulate en masse on otherwise not so great trip , overall impression is souring and one wonders if his choice of vacation spot was indeed optimal to put it mildly. But I get why you are jealous, I'd be too being in your spot and there is plenty rationale to feel jealous, I can see that.

@reader thanks for sharing this article. I went to my favorite barber here in Jomtien and I shared with him the in-Thai-language version of this article: https://thethaiger.com/th/news/1232916/ and we had a great laugh together. He told me that he would like to be the one to confirm the penis sizes in the back of the shop in order to present the "fair" price for the haircut....

Chiang Rai, Mae Sai and Tachileik are badly flooded at the moment, but I drove into Chiang Mai city today, crossing the Ping River serveral times. The river was contained within its banks from what I saw, but doubtless our turn will come as the water flows towards the sea. Rain has been continuous for an extended period and I'm surprised that the Ping has not already broken its banks.

Flooding is a problem in the north at the moment. Chiang Rai has been badly hit- some may have heard about the guy in the cave rescue being rescued again, this time from the roof of his home- and people have been killed by mud-slides in CM. Not a good time to visit, IMHO.

In any normal world, a candidate who ranted and raved about immigrants eating dogs and cats because he "saw it on TV" would find his campaign over.

Georgetown, Penang Island was a wonderful place to visit and I could have easily spent several days more exploring the island, eating wonderful food and hooking up with cute local talent. I stayed four nights. First night I arrived late. The very long and dull bus ride was longer than expected due to some kind of accident related traffic jam on the way. So the first night was uneventful. The next couple of days and nights were delightfully busy. I did a food tour with a guide who was also very knowledgeable about local history, culture and economy, hiked through mangrove forest in the small national park on the northwestern part of the island, visited Chinese gangster’s/merchant’s mansions, enjoyed British colonial buildings, had lots of tasty food and no less than five hook-ups. Hook-ups were all Grindr induced and took place in my hotel room. Again there was no issue bringing guests to my room. I stayed at the Cititel Penang - the one close to the Blue Mansion. I met one of them for a drink before coming back to the hotel and the others I met in the hotel Lobby. From my anecdotal experience and Grindr ressearch I would assess that Indian and Malay Malaysians prefer to top and Chinese Malaysians prefer to bottom, but I am sure there will be exceptions to confirm this rule. I would reccomend Malaysia to anyone who likes food and quickies with regular guy-next- door types in their 20s or 30s. I hope to go back sometime in the not so distant future, but my next Asian adventure will be Thailand (second time) and Cambodia (first time).

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Watch out Miss Habba, you have competition.... Enter, Laura Loomer, a looney right wing radical conspiracy theorist, who is responsible for ALL the crazy shit Trump has been saying, including the "eatting pets" thing..... And Loomer is flying around with Trump, posting Racist comments about Kamala, fighting with Miss Marjorie Wacko Greene, and calling Lindsey Graham GAY... Imagine, GAY !!!. Lindsey clutched his faux pearls. The GOP is calling her a major problem for Trump and the campaign, but poor little Trump just wants a sympathetic bosom to cry on...... MEET LAURA:

I like that. Maybe bring Don Jr. and Eric in with their dead cats and turn it into real American carnage. Of course, we want Matt Gaetz and Tulsi and the ever charming Stephen Miller to reprise their roles as debate coaches. Although Gaetz should bring some of his cocaine and underage girls. It might calm Donald down, if he has some pussy to grab and what not. Not the Springfield cats kind. Real pussy. Karen Dunn Interesting Wikipedia profile of the woman who prepped Harris, along with her domestic policy adviser Rohini Kosoglu. Dunn is like a Who's Who of Democratic insiders. She worked with Senator Hillary Clinton, then with Axelrod on the 2008 Obama campaign. Directed debate prep for Obama in 2012 and Clinton in 2016, and for Harris as Veep in 2020. Also an insider's guide to doing legal work for Silicon Valley. Clients include Apple, Oracle, Uber, and Jeff Bezos. Rightly or wrongly, I always feel why this is the Democratic Party can not engage true economic populism. Too much money from Wall Street and Silicon Valley, both in the front door through campaign contributions and the back door through all these work networks.

good point Daddy

I kept about 700 in hundreds and fifties but figured out that I may have better use at home of those 6500 converted back. I can easily buy baht at home at roughly rate equivalent to that in Swampy kiosks in main building ( not at railway station) which is not bad. Also taking money from ATM results in the same rate foreign withdrawal fees are accounted for. So there's some loss but not as severe as with some other currencies.

@EmmetK is going to be mad with you. He likes to post about new polling information.

That is a word that has never applied to Trump. Josh Barrow yes. Trump no. (I won't tell Halperin about Josh.)

Curious about rationale that you always cash out unused baht on departure, knowing that you're going to be returning at some point. Holding on to some baht would mean one less inconvenience of money exchange on arrival.

Oh, since I haven’t been to Sunee for a long time, I thought this was located there, but did not see any familiar buildings, so I found out it is in Jomtien. No, it will not close, just a holiday for the boys maybe.

it's why I shave every morning and while in Thailand also before hitting bars hoping reverse will turn true. ( for those who are curios what commotion is all about - "beard doesn't make you philosopher " )

Looks like TripAdvisor sells online without Thai numbers within Laos. Instructions around internet say what LCR app exclusively needs only for to buy online tickets for crossing border with China. But I can't confirm or deny since I haven't it on my phone.

I see great future for that barber. Most guys rather pay 80 instead of admitting in the open to be short dicked to save meager 40 baht. See that comment by owner of supposedly large tool in the last sentence, whom he is kidding ?

maybe that is just his defenses falling into cracks.. i mean, what better excuse would there be not to like girls apart from saying you do not like the race of 95% of the girls around you 😅 sometimes when we lie, we tend to say such extreme things .. This is a little off topic but the other straight guy said something along the lines of, he is looking for a thai girlfriend so that he can have someone to clean the house for him .. The bigotry of these straight foreigners here in Thailand never fails to shock me

I'm glad you expressed an opinion on that practice. I too think it is improper to oblige anyone to consume alcohol. I would not even excuse it away with "nobody is forced to drink for money" because in reality his employment in the bar may be at risk if he regularly refuses. It is bad form on the part of the customer, and it is irresponsible on the part of the business to permit an unsafe, oppressive work environment. What if a customer offered a cigarette or cocaine instead of a shot? I have seen and hired barboys who turned out to be Muslim. Should they be made to feel obliged to accept the shot?

Call me "woke" or whatever, but if someone said this to me in conversation, I would be instantly turned off.

Going back a little in the thread, I once offed a guy in Pattaya for long time, only for him to come up with some excuse and leave around 1 am. Turns out he was working late night at a club as a coyote dancer!

Daddy , grew up ! Prices are driven by market. You still may have boy in BKK for 500 if you go hunting around Saranrom Park at night. and at another end of scale are Moonlight models , some of them ask for 7000 even 8000 for short time max 2 hr. One of Jey Spa guys suggested all nighter for 10000 as I reported in May. Some bars in Pattaya are asking for 800 and 1050 off fee, chances are boys from there may polish our shoes for 1000 but not necessarily allow use of their back door or get dirty with ours. I , as everybody, don't like recent surge in prices which I consider excessive greed on part of boys but we only have two viable options, negotiate fees down which may or may not be successful . I was surprised by how firm few guys were. Or look for cheaper alternatives, most boys in Saphan Kwai still are happy with 1000 baht tip and those are Bangkok prices too. People who , like me are into hunks have it harder and again it's market, Twinks abound everywhere but if you want muscle you must do your search. Chances are , rare species will charge accordingly. And last issue is - did we come there to have fun way we like or to save money on cheap fucks ? None of those is right or wrong, just different priorities we have. I still am not sure that passing that 10000 offer was right thing. Sure I saved money but guy was great personality and had body straight from Olympus. Where one get such boy where we live for 300 USD for overnight ? so instead of complaining about fees boys are charging and customers are (over) paying we should focus on how to have kind of fun WE like without going bankrupt or infected by STD.

I dont know the place. On google maps it has terrible reviews.

Nice boys Was open last time I went.May Probably be the last time I go Pushy Thai owner,I was giving 100 baht tips to meet every guy for less than one minute They all lined up ,the mamasan came over ,the owner wants me to buy every boy a drink if I meet them for the minute I said no...sent the boys away that were lining up and paid my bill The owner wasn't happy, 4 drinks including 2 boy drinks in 10 minutes and over 1000 b in tips he wanted more ,just cost his staff not him ! Too greedy ,cost him my business So greed doesn't get you anywhere ,if someone is tipping your staff for a 30 second meet then go with the flow ,dollars is coming in My plan is to meet them quickly tip them and if I like buy a drink So the mamasan got tipped and several boys ,there was more money in my pocket and more drinks planned ..but...no not good enough for the Thai owner some old guy Selfish Thai owner .then mamasan said to me ,"you cum back tommrrw he not here ! Nope I said.. nope Similar GREED happened a few years ago in the Jomtien complex a annoying waiter constantly shaking my beer bottle to see how much is in there ,he walked around every few minutes shaking bottles of customers🍾🍾,I noticed very few people in this certain bar(now closed) compared to others and I knew why , Fucking annoying shaking the bottle every 3 minutes and I kid you not ,every 3 minutes! "You want more drink ? He asked "I only ordered it a few minutes ago " I said to him startled 😮 I finally left, and NO tip ...in fact I shook the black leather thing you put the money in ...right in front of him ...fuck him ! And I know what some of you would think....."oh these poor boys...they're forced to work like slaves ....give them more ...don't complain...give them more and say sorry to the darlings ..think how poor they are compared to you as a farang.....say sorry for not giving them more money oh oh 😭😭😭😭 Maybe you....but NOT this little black duck !🖕🖕🦆 As for Winner boys the best owner and BEST business in Pattaya !!!!

Was heartened today to open post from 15M Massage and find that one of my favorite SK masseurs ("Ole") appear back in the fold after an extended absence.

What’s great about Nine—and why he’s on my repeat-off list—is that he’s got this whole “straight buddy who’s unusually generous with his body” vibe going. Sure, his English is patchy, but he’s so friendly language barrier hardly matters and you almost forget you’re dealing with a bar boy. The whole experience is like hanging out with a mate where things eventually escalated to something sexy (now that is the fantasy!) So there I was, waking up wrapped around this absolute specimen, feeling like I’d won the lottery. Honestly, moments like these are what remind me why I fly all the way to Thailand. All the planning, the flights, the hassle—it all melts away when you wake up to that. After a morning session that nearly made us miss the hotel breakfast, Nine took off—but not before dropping the golden nugget that I could message him directly next time. No need to schlep into the bar—though, of course, I’d still need to pay the off fee. This was music to my ears because by this point in my trip, the bar scene had gone from fun to monotonous and predictable. Skipping the cover fee, the boy drinks, and the tips? Yes, please. And hey, the bar still gets its off fee, so it’s a win-win. Looking for some new inspiration, I scoured the forum and landed on Ganymede Spa. One glowing review from TotallyOz of a certain masseur had me sold, so I made contact. I sent a photo of the guy I was after, and the spa confirmed: Mr. Tony is available and ready. Thinking I was being clever, I grabbed a cheap taxi during off-peak hours. Big mistake. I entered the spa’s location—Pathumwan Resort—into the app, and it led us straight to a random empty lot one block away. Google Maps? Equally useless. My driver was all apologies, pointing frantically at the map, and I decided to just walk it. Asking him to reroute would’ve felt like wandering into a black hole of wasted time. Once I was inside the so-called “resort” (jury’s still out on why they call it that), I had a bit of trouble finding the spa. Turns out, the signage is barely there, and my internal GPS? Not exactly a feature. Tony was already waiting as I chatted with the staff about the packages. The one-hour standard was 700 baht, and they tried to upsell me on a B2B massage for an extra 200 or 300 baht. I passed, and they still filled Tony in on what I’d chosen. The spa was clean, but the communal bathroom was a bit of a downer. For the price, I was expecting a touch more luxury. To be fair, the bathroom did have that high-end look—marble floors and walls, very chic. Tony’s massage was more than decent, and the extras? Well, that forum recommendation didn’t steer me wrong. Tony surprised me with a B2B massage anyway, and who am I to say no to a free upgrade? He was passionate, attentive, and hit all the right spots—literally and figuratively. Oh, and I should mention: Tony is very easy on the eyes. After we were done, we lay there catching our breath, still locked in a pretty cozy embrace. He gestured for me to shower, which I reluctantly did—though I was in for another surprise when Tony followed me in. This wasn’t exactly a private bathroom situation, so it was unexpected but… I wasn’t mad about it. We took turns washing each other, which gave me more chances to admire his, uh, assets and sneak in a few cheeky extras. Needless to say, I made sure Tony’s tip reflected my enthusiastic appreciation for all the pleasant surprises. Feeling pretty pleased with myself, I took a leisurely stroll over to Platinum Mall, just a kilometer away. That’s when I had an epiphany: “Ganymede Spa + Platinum Mall” might just be my new favorite combo, like the way “Chatuchak + Saphan Kwai shops” has always been my go-to weekend pair. By nightfall, #7 from Good Boys shot me a Line message, asking when I’d be taking him off again. I asked what he wanted to do, and I got the classic "up to you" response. After some pressing, he admitted he was sleepy, bored, and just wanted to get out of the bar. A plan I could totally get behind. So, I rolled into Good Boys around 9 p.m. I had a quick chat with the mamasan while lounging on the couch outside, then asked if I could off #7 on the spot. A few minutes later, out came #7 in his street clothes, grinning from ear to ear.

Last Sunday I did as promised and I have good news for Hero lovers and misses. It all at Prince as it was before at Hero. 2 dozen of hunks behind glass wall flexing and trying to bring attention to themselves. It comes at cost though. 1.5 hr course if I recall is 1300 and min tip 2000. Not sure though a I'm in transit and my notes are in checked luggage. Definitely place to go for those who are into muscles. Guy I had massage with told me that 95 % of clients are Chinese. It must be as original figure he used was 90 and he upped it to 95 immediately.

I went to Otot-otot sauna tonight. The first time I went - before Covid- I didn't know where it was so caught a taxi. Unfortunately, it was a Saturday evening and we got caught in rush-hour. It took over an hour to get there. Then I realised it's a 8 minute monorail trip from where I am, plus a 10 minute walk from Chow Kit station. (Actually, it only took me 5 minutes because I ran all the way! Lol) It gets busy around 7:30 but today was a public holiday so I got there before 7, thinking it would start early. I noticed quite a few guys going up the stairs. The guy at reception was very friendly and wavered the regustration fee. I was then led to the lockers where I got undressed, wrapped a towel around my waist and rushed straight into the darkroom maze. It's totally dark and I folliwed the wall inside, brushing up against lots of guys and having a grope. There was a bit of light near the entry and exit so I did get to see a bit of what was going on. There were lots of guys, but they were mainly just leaning up against the wall and not really getting involved. I managed one good groping session, but a lot of time was wasted waiting for the guys to loosen up. Last time I was there the action was full on, including bare backing on the mattresses inside the dark room and lots of guys getting blow jobs. Have they all suddenly become shy? But everything comes to those who wait. I finally found a guy who was interested and we got up on one of the raised beds. He had a beautiful, thick cock. I was dying to give him a blow job, but I never do that in saunas. After fooling around for a while he asked me to go to the toilet with him. "I want to fuck you", he said. I told him we could do it on the bed so he slipped on a condom, lubed me up and slipped it in. He was quite rough and after a while I had to ask him to stop because it was getting a bit painful. I spent a lot of time waiting for the next guy, still wondering why they weren't all getting down to business. Then a guy went down on me as I lay on my back on the bed He was so skilful that I ended up cumming rather quickly. With that I got up and left. I was pleased to see that the sauna is very clean. Two staff members came into the darkroom collecting up used condoms. I have a feeling I may be going back tomorrow! .

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