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I hope and pray that this, being in Thailand "permanently closed ' means just "till tomorrow evening "

I cannot clearly see how Vegman would be a german name and I cannot clearly see what the origin of a name has to do with nationality.

True, but this is my last client, and I am old fashioned, believing in service. It was also a quick enquiry, so could be done over a beer, watching talent in Surawong! I assume if you were in Bangkok, and Tawan rang up at 11.30pm, with a special offering, you might be interested?

Well I've never noticed an owner there but it seems he's providing a valuable service. A place for some gays to work (and sleep?) also. Or maybe some are renting a room somewhere. Or both. The cocktails are a plus also.

Shutting down ALL aid. That is their goal. Shutting down ALL reporting. That is their goal. Shutting down ALL resistance. That is their goal. Shutting down ALL life. That is their goal. Stealing everything. That is their goal. Sorry, Israel. Face facts. Net N. Yahoo doesn't want the hostages back. That would end his pretext.

shame on you

In the very distant past, when I chose this nickname, the choice was purely technical: spammers who spam by brute force usually do not include the names Jesus, Moses and Buddha in the list of names. Therefore, less spam was sent to email with this name. This had nothing to do with the nationality of Moses and me

despite democratic veneer this debacle still proves what Thailand is , Third World feudal autocracy. You don't like opposition party , dissolve it. You don't like opposition politician, ban him from public life for crime of not clipping his nails or wearing wrong coloured tie. And then one day you wonder why country inflamed or just collapsed without a shoot like most of East European communist regimes did (Romania excepted).

Unfortunately, you're right. In the video below, what's so troubling is that passengers are still on board the vessel as the fire continues to burn unchecked. That they had to jump to save themselves suggests that the ferry had no evacuation plan and possibly no rafts. Fortunately, most seem to be wearing flotation vests. That no fatalities were reported can be credited to the response of other ferries and privater boaters who came to their assistance. Relatively warm and calm seas were another factor. Meanwhile, Thailand continues to pursue plans to acquire two new destroyers for its navy after legislators decided against a submarine purchase from China. In reality, what Thailand needs is a more robust coast guard to police ferry operations. It was just last December that a ferry to Koh Tao sank Seventy passengers and crew were rescued.

I share the outrage. The US should hold all aid to Israel unless an election within 60 days is announced, and also the US should let it be known that if they re-elect BN, not to expect any more aid. The only concession I would give the IDF is that the convoy, while clearly marked, was, as I understand it, moving at night. I'm not sure how necessary it was to have the convoy move at night. That being said, this is not a sufficient excuse. Enough is enough.

I agree with Mr. Kenyon, It makes goose bumps while walking Phnom Penh streets and seeing buses and vans with prominent signage " Killing Fields Tours"

new, improved formula gallows urgently needed in Phuket. What if that lurch and collision resulted in fatality ?

As you may know, Eagle bars are present in Many cities worldwide, mainly in North America. There is also one in Sao Paulo. I discovered it during my last trip. It is basically a large bar with a stage and an even larger backŕoom. In the backroom, there is a pitch dark darkroom with lot of action. Far too dark for me ! Impossible to see any action. Even moving is difficult since there is absolutely no light .... Most of patrons are daddies, Tom of Finland types, aged between 30 and 60. The day I went there, there were 2 interactive boys whom I considered sexy (the same who will be performing this coming saturday). I was wondering how interactive they were ... They were quite a lot, even proactive, inviting customers to come and cuddle, kiss or suck them or even sucking customers on the stage. Great experience that day thanks to the sex appeal of the interactive boys. Most of the time, though, their models are not appealing to me. Might be worth a repeat in the future.

From The Thaiger Maybe Thailand should rebrand its Land of Smiles moniker to the Land of Russian Crime after yet another Russian man was nabbed for criminal activity. Yesterday, a 36 year old Russian national added his name to a catalogue of former Soviet block criminals arrested for reportedly operating illegal activities. Russian Ibragim Gaitukiev was arrested for allegedly running an unauthorised cryptocurrency exchange service on the popular tourist destination, Koh Pha Ngan, in Surat Thani, Thailand. The location of his arrest was a property on Sri Thanu Beach in the Koh Pha Ngan district, as disclosed by Police Major General Sermphan Sirikhong, the head of the Surat Thani province. This arrest resulted from an investigation focused on the en-samui.bitmonyekb.com website, which had been promoting the buying and selling of cryptocurrencies in Surat Thani’s Koh Samui and Koh Pha Ngan districts. The contact phone and WhatsApp numbers listed on the website were traced back to the bank accounts of Gaitukiev and another foreign individual, Maksim Variukhin, according to the province’s head of police. The investigating officers discovered that the two foreign individuals served as executives for OM 118 Co, a company located on Koh Pha Ngan in Surat Thani. The company operated from a house on Sri Thanu beach, a well-known tourist hotspot. This building also housed a cannabis shop known as Plantasia cannabis collective, with a noticeable Bitcoin sign placed at the front, as per police reports. Investigators hypothesised that this shop was the advertised location for the cryptocurrency exchange. Following this lead, they obtained a court-approved warrant from the Samui Provincial Court on a Wednesday to search the premises. The search was conducted the next day. Gaitukiev was present during the search and identified himself as the owner of the shop. While the search of the cannabis shop revealed no illegal items, there were advertisements for cryptocurrency exchange within the premises. Gaitukiev was consequently arrested for operating an illegal cryptocurrency exchange. Upon questioning, he reportedly confessed that he and Variukhin had been offering digital currency services to tourists. ==================== Russian man arrested in Pattaya for illegal trade linked to a suicide Economic Crime Suppression Division (ECD) officers arrested a Russian man at a luxury penthouse in Pattaya yesterday for allegedly running an illegal trade, which led to the suicide of a Thai woman. ECD officers arrested the 40 year old Russian man, Alexey Vegman, at his penthouse yesterday, April 4 on an accusation of illegally trading. Vegman reportedly denied all allegations and is now being questioned at the ECD office. Officers conducted raids at his penthouse and two other houses in the area and seized several items of evidence related to the crime including, seven laptops, three mobile phones, six electronic cards, 14 bank accounts, four cheque books, and nine secure pass devices. These secure pass devices are used to generate one-time passwords (OTPs) to access online financial transaction systems.

Are you suggesting there's a trump that isn't money-grubbing? Since when?

Or Nepal!

Some supermarkets in the UK, are moving away from Automatic check outs to 'people' checkouts, as there is a feeling that we need more personal interaction. I can see that, though I personally prefer Automatic checkouts! Faster, etc.

Author of topic is The Thaiger news service out of Phuket. I reckon they're more familiar with who's responsible for crime in their province than either of us.

not doubt in anticipation of marine invasion from Laos

From Thai PBS World Former Move Forward party leader Pita Limjaroenrat bade farewell to parliament last night, saying that this debate may be the last of his political career, before the party is dissolved by the Constitutional Court. Making his closing speech at the end of the two-day general debate against the government, Pita, currently advisory chairman to the Move Forward party leader, talked about the party’s victory in the May 14 general election while missing out on the formation of the government. He gave his assessment of the poor performance of the Pheu Thai-led administration over the past seven months, ranging from its failure to carry out the reforms it promised to the lack of leadership by the prime minister, lack of vision, national agenda and any credible achievements. Pita said that he does not regret the fact that his party won the election and managed to cobble together 312 votes in parliament, against the Pheu Thai party’s 314, but ended up being pushed into opposition which, he added, is an important role in a democratic system. “I will never regret that this debate may be the last of my political career. There is no secret about it, everybody knows that my political career is hanging by a thread, but I am ready to walk away as a victor,” said Pita, adding that the likelihood of the dissolution of the Move Forward party will not prevent Thailand from moving towards change and will hasten the pace of the party’s advance toward victory. Given the responses of ministers against opposition MPs’ criticisms during the two-day debate, Pita said he regrets the loss of opportunities for the country, for the confidence placed in the government by the people and the support that his party gave to the government. Instead of the government’s “Ignite Thailand” slogan, the former Move Forward party leader said he would prefer the slogan “Darkness of Thailand”, as he pointed out the government’s “darkness” or failures in eight areas, among them being constitutional amendments, bureaucratic reform, economic stimulation, justice process reform and improved quality of life for the people.

In covid time some of them worked in massage places like Arena or Sabaidee so some may land there while waiting for bar's resurrection

The owner, Paul, can be seen sitting outside of Winner Bar most nights. Ten boys on stage tonight.

From The Nation For the first time, Bangkok’s Samyan neighbourhood will be transformed into a new Songkran hotspot, with lots of water splashing and free concerts on three days of the year’s hottest month. From April 13 to 15, the entire Chulalongkorn Soi 5 will be closed to traffic to make way for the “Samyan Water Street 2024” event organised by local entrepreneurs and businesses to mark Thailand’s traditional new year. Water towers will be set up along the walking street for people to fill up their buckets and water guns to ensure everybody is thoroughly soaked. Visitors can also enjoy the beautiful Songkran parades and free concerts on two stages from 3pm to 11pm over the three days. On April 13, bands taking the stage include YOURMOOD, XI, and CDGUNTEE, while CHILAX, NICECNX, PIXXIE and WIZZLE will perform the following day. The festivities will wrap up on April 15 with performances by MIRRR, PROJECT M.O.N., FLI:P, and MAYARAP.

But they make up for it in the room. 🙂

I've only ever gone to Screwboys once in all the times I've gone to BKK. Looks like I should pay this bar a visit in the month's trip 😛

Haha I hear the owner of this thread. I went to Bangkok the first time in 2013 in my mid 20s - accidentally because I caught a first class error fare and had chance to travel to Bangkok cheap and classy, stayed at Pullman G and had a blast of time in Silom when Soi Twilight still was alive (arguably "Dragostea Din Tei" was already kinda outdated back then) When I return nowadays I must say that it is somewhat different. I really dislike the Gogo-bars which rip you off wherever they can and do not provide any adequate offering. I rather prefer hook-ups via apps or just go to some 'massage' parlours...it is still fun but is just different. And Pullman G has also deterioated which is a shame because I have still good memories with that place...but then I rather go Banyan Tree, SO Hotel, Marriott Surawongse or Le Meridien....all far better I'll return to BKK in May for a couple of days and really looking forward to it and what has changed since my last visit in 2022. If anyone has "must go's" which have come up in the meantime that is really appreciated... Best Flying_Angel

Excellent advertising for the safety of Thai ferries! Glad there were no casualties.

From Thai News Agency An Australian tourist, seemingly intoxicated, attacked a taxi driver, who told him not to smoke in the vehicle. The incident occurred on Wednesday about 30 meters away from Thalang Police Station in Phuket province. According to the taxi driver, he had picked up the tourist from Phuket International Airport and was en route to a hotel. When the tourist started smoking, he informed the tourist that smoking was not allowed in the vehicle. Then, the tourist crossed over from the back seat and grabbed him by the neck. He lost control of the vehicle, causing it to lurch forward and collide with a car in the front. The tourist has agreed to compensate for damages to both vehicles and has apologized. The taxi driver has also been taken to the hospital for a medical examination as part of the legal process. Police have filed charges against the tourist for “using violence against others” and have noted signs of alcohol intoxication during their investigation.

Nobody in touch with any of the guys and knows what happened to them? Let's hope they all have one or multiple sponsors..... 🙏

Depends on the season, in my experience. Rio can be dead yet SP crazy and vice versa....

I find him very handsome

all three I guess wailing over past will not do you any good unless you like bitter taste. However fabulous, past is gone. Better focus on anticipation of new trip. And if you like change , do something different like start your trip in Bangkok. Every trip to add some spice I try to do some small things bit differently , one trip it will be changing hotel every day, another staying in the same whole trip ( which I don't like), off all boys from the same bar - I call it monodiet trip or have my first offed boys being twink, itself horror of horrors. Then you will wait with anticipation how it will work for you

Part 3 With just one day left before Jake's arrival, I decided to take things easy since he seems to have some plans and places he would like to see. One smart move on my part —I made sure to bring up the topic of compensation in advance this time around. However, his response was a bit unclear. He seemed to think that me handling everything for the next three days would suffice. He mentioned wanting to enjoy Bangkok without the hassle of worrying about MB work and finding clients. While it sounded reasonable, deep down, I couldn't shake the feeling that I ought to do something in return when he leaves. I woke up and spent a few hours responding to emails and checking on the progress of work back home. Mates always nag me about not being able to relax and disconnect properly. But I think that investing time to stay on top of things now prevents a mountain of stress later on post vacation. Plus, it ensures that my vacation doesn't eat into all my leave credits, leaving me with nothing for the future. This approach has served me well so far, though I guess everyone has their own way of doing things. When my stomach started rumbling, I decided to call it a day and went out for lunch. I stumbled upon a Chinese noodle house near McDonald's on Silom Rd. It turned out to be a poor choice—the service was cold and indifferent. Despite being customer number two at that time, I felt completely ignored by the four staff. I took the initiative to grab a menu myself, but when I sat down, the waiter pointed to a QR code on the table and swiftly walked away. The code led me to a Thai website, leaving me to fend for myself. Hungry and frustrated, I opted for McDonald's next door to fill up. Problem solved, albeit in a less exciting way. With my hunger satisfied, I made my way to Green Massage for a foot massage. They tried to upsell me to a full-body massage, but I declined, citing my recent meal and the potential mess they may need to mop off. A foot massage there is always a delight, and I've never left disappointed. It's also a perfect way to kill time before catching the boy show next block. Later in the evening, I found myself at Arena in Silom Plaza. It wasn't high on my list of places to visit prior to this trip, but recent events with Tawan made this visit compelling. Not much seemed to have changed—the atmosphere, the process, and the quality of masseurs all remained consistent. Yet, it still seemed to be the go-to spot for meeting Tawan-like guys, at least for the time being. As night fell, I headed over to Screwboys, which was quickly becoming my favorite spot. Their current selection was on point, and I couldn't resist checking it out. One boy caught my attention. Not my usual type but his overall playful demeanour onstage and how he vibes with other guys looks entertaining. I quickly signalled to invite him to sit with me which he smilingly obliged. T as he introduced himself is from Vietnam - he also mentioned that it will be his birthday in three days. I nodded politely which he interpreted that I don't believe him. He then whipped out his phone and showed me a photo of his passport. I smiled and asked if he would like a drink. T seems eager to secure business as he instantly became touchy and leading my hand to explore various parts of his body. A few moments later, we were kissing like we are the only people in the room. This left me a bit embarassed as I am personally not a fan of public displays like this. I asked him if he would like a second drink. He responded saying that will it be alright if his brother can join us and have that drink instead. Min joined us and minutes later was doing the same routine as T. I really couldn't complain being flanked and alternately kissed by two gorgeous guys. I was shocked to learn though that they are actual brothers (as per T: "mother, father same same "). I can't even process the fact that they both would like to spend the night. At the end, I politely declined the proposition. I just can't wrap my head around that kind of scenario. It eventually ended with me and T marching out and doing a 7-11 pitstop. In the counter, T handed me a 100 baht note since he purchased a pack of ciggies. I appreciated the gesture but made it a point to add it to his tip. At the hotel, we had a lively discussion over microwaved food and he's just a chatterbox talking about his life in Bangkok and his family in Vietnam. I prefer not to participate much in this type of conversation as these can be potentially used later for financial help requests. But T have a very animated and entertaining way of storytelling that I can't help but to engage. We then showered together and things started to heat up again. Initially, I was concerned that his over the top touchy and flirty gestures in the bar is just for show to convince clients for an off - but he remained consistent all throughout. We had a quick shower, a bit more chat and a few minutes later, told him that Jetlag is calling me. He pulled me closer to his chest, kissed me in the forehead and said our goodnights.

while I'm all for that mini-Schengen idea and abolishing visas, loss of that 30$ revenue for small and poor country like Cambodia not necessarily would be compensated in government coffers by increased traffic

Just as every customer is different so is every masseur. Some are aggressive and will make the first move by grazing your genitals. Others may position their crotch within easy reach. Shy ones may wait for you to make the first move. Again, be flexible: there are no hard rules of engagement. As for haggling, if you're in a shop with minimum tip there is no haggling. You and masseur already agree what tip will be. In shop with no minimum, Vinapu's recommendation (and I believe I recall it correctly) is the best advice I've heard on the matter. Guy asks "what you give me?" You say X baht. He asks for more. You make one--and only one--counter offer (which may or may not be your original figure). He either accepts or declines. It shouldn't be like negotiating over the price of a carpet in a suk in Marrakesh. Go into this relaxed and confident. It's surprisingly easy to get from A to B. Hopefully nothing will come up that you can't handle.

wow - first I learned about the "Vinapu tuck" and then I started to apply it in my life Now I learn about VST - at first I was confused - as I thought that it was a new time zone = Vinapu time....

when minimum tip is listed , unless boy himself raised issue by asking for more for doing this or that, that minimum is what is expected , even in higher rend places like Jey Spa. Not that they throw back bahts at you if you tip them more. If you are happy, specially if you think you will see boy again feel free to tip more to show he did good job. Not that is expected but you may buy better goodwill. Often 2nd encounters are more dynamic than first ones as both parties are more familiar with each other. But be warned , if you tip more , next time you will be expected to tip the same , improved formula amount. Boys have surprisingly good memory, even 1 year later they may quote you what you gave them last time, happened to me in January and I resorted to excuse ' last time I was rich, now I'm poor". I simplified my life and use VST (Vinapu Standard Tip ) in massages : for 1 hr session 1000 or minimum tip, whatever is higher, for 1.5 hr session 1500 or minimum , again whatever is higher. I'm inclined to throw money around , if only to soothe boys stress after encountering stingy farangs but very rarely on 1st session.

I hope it's as much truth as in today's announcement of increasing Airport Line capacity to 800 a day ! Yes , I agree closing such venerable institution would amount to sacrilege. But even if truth , which I don't believe I think it will be resurrected somewhere ( old New Twlight/ Queens Club location nearby is still empty )

Oh no. I hope this isn't true. This is one of my go-to bars whenever in Bangkok. If this is true, I hope there'll be another place where I can still see the Tawan boys.

If Taiwan was/is permanently closed that would be quite a shock. And very sad. Although I've never been into the muscle boys I always made a point to have a drink or two there on every trip. But it was iconic and from reading reports people travelled from all over the world specifically for its services. It should have protected status!

"The signboard had been removed"... Now THAT'S worrying. The only way to reconcile that with assurances about reopening next month would be if it reopens under a new name and new owner.

Freebie, from the “useless” outdated review site. Looks like no abundant Easter baskets this year.

SO we'll await your report about Tawan then 🧐 Wow, we agree on something....there is hope for peace in the middle east.

I finally texted my contact working there a long time with a binary question: re-opened or not. Very cryptic response sent Sunday afternoon. Just that there is a problem now.

4000 is on high end and rather in Bangkok , in Pattaya 3000 for long time is generous. Everything above 4000 is extortionate unless you really like the boy and he is not budging but that will be very rare and I'd say try somebody else. Good looks are no guarantee of good service but neither are bad looks. Still must be some chemistry

I have found Grindr very good in Bangkok. All the boys looked like their pictures, and performed. I may have been lucky as other members have had disappointments. Line is used a lot, though I find it difficult! Plenty of massage parlours, look through the threads on here, some very good. Bars not what they were, shows tame. The one with a live show, Tawan, was closed by the police a couple of days ago. People speak well of Fresh Boys, Screw Boys, Hot Male, Banana Bar. Some members have success in picking guys up in the street!

Guy noted OP's email address triggered a password reset... google sends the authentication code to confirm identity... OP gives it to guy... OP loses access to his google account. Probably account would be sold to hackers. Every other website/accounts that gmail is used for is now susceptible to being hacked. Authentication codes are only for you to use on a website. Never give them to anyone.

Quick question - do you take prep daily, or do you take it as needed? I've been meaning to go on prep but I don't know whether it would be worth going on the daily prep as I hardly ever get any action here in my home country, or just use it as needed whilst I am in Thailand.. there is like a holiday dosage, I forget how it works but it was explained to me by my GP.