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I follow fairly simple tipping formula. For bar or other "offs", I tip the agreed amount. If guy asks for more, I'll give him taxi fare. I'll always ask him if he wants to get something to eat before or after and never factor that cost into tip. For massage shops with minimum tip, I tip 200 extra if he showers with me so that's usually 1200 for an hour. For shops without minimum tip, I tip in the same range for a satisfactory service. There are, of course, exceptions for "exceptional" service. We all define exceptional by different standards but we know it when we experience it. In both cases, the best extra I can offer a guy is my repeat business. I'm usually in town for a month or two and have ample opportunity to do so. In the past when I agreed to an off's request for an extra 500 or 1000 (and the service was not out of the ordinary), it quickly became known to others who worked that bar that I could be manipulated. I'm not suggesting this is the way others should tip; it's just the way I do. Tipping is and always should be an individual matter.

I recall a guy I took from Toyboys when I was a player on Pattaya scene. It must have been the early 2000s. After I'd paid him, he told me that he was going to dinner because he hadn't eaten for two days....business in Boyztown had been slow. A few minutes later, I left the hotel to go to 7 11 and there he was , sitting outside Toyboys with a large plate of food and some fruit. In those days, there were a number of food vendors in the area. He waved to me and pointed at the food, as if I could miss it. Sentimental old man I may be, but I was happy for him. Two or three years later, when the" Kamphaet Three" as I call them came to Pattaya, one of whom was P., I learnt that the guys on the scene took care of each other in times of hardship. If one of the Three had enjoyed a successful liaison (financially!), it was accepted that he'd buy dinner for all.... the reason was that the guys were living and existing from day to day. As an example of this, P didn't have enough money for the bus fare to see his beloved parents at Songkran, indeed hadn't seen them for a year. I cannot say if this is still true today but I suspect that that some guys are in difficulties. When I last walked through the Jomtien Complex in November there were barely fifteen falang punters. And many guys. Of course, there are the apps , so who knows? Nevertheless, I learnt from my relationship that what we can give can make a huge difference, whether it be a much-needed meal, or a bus ride home. And yes, OK, perhaps a pair of trainers of a much-valued brand....that too. So I'm with Olddaddy.

So very common.....this business they're in, that everyone feels so sorry for them and throws money at them....imagine the people working for Thai normal wages, like at McDonalds......how long it takes for them to earn what some of these guys make in an hr. (I know people will say it's completely different, but it's my perspective) If it was reversed and they found a new sugar daddy and you were still into him, they wouldn't have a problem.....so you shouldn't either.

Well said. I think that most of us are aware that a lot of these boys lead a hand to mouth existence, and for the most part, the difference between, say, 1,000 baht and 1,500 is negligible. I appreciate the different view that Christian PFC has, but I would prefer to pay a realistic figure. I had a good time yesterday with a Lao guy, he came, I bred him, and I gave him 3,000. In London, where I am from, that would have been 9,000 and up, so I think it's a good deal, and he can go and eat.

I agree with this. I had a boy ask for an extra 500 even though the tip was agreed beforehand and i already spent a few hundred getting some stuff he wanted from the 7-11. It isn't much to me but at least I made him happy.

It seems now we have passed a generation to 2024 we have more guys who do sex work part time and have other jobs ,I even noticed this more with guys in Pattaya So these guys some who are straight are not as desperate as the ones 20 years ago so they need proper remuneration Some of you complain that you weny to a Go Go bars and saw guys in their 40's dancing etc like one recent post and complaining, So my point is ,sometimes I see stingy farangs on here saying how happy they were to pay 500 baht and complaining the 20yo twink who goes to uni part time wanted 1500b in Bangkok ,how dare he ! For fxcks sake , if you want hot young guys you need to pay ,they ain't coming for little money ,stop being stingy and complaining! This is a business , everyone has their price ,even Vinapu😂 Then you wonder why there is a shortage of young twinks

Tartegogo is right. There r 3 forums (men, businesses, members) for posting about brazil, without anyone really paying attention about what's supposed to b the dfrnc btw them. For example: u can find info on a certain establishment or citiy in all 3. Its very confusing, and VERY unhelpful for those wishing to research. This is true not only regarding brazil.

For doing nothing, and ditched you two nights in a row?

I had a similar problem in Pattaya on my last visit. For a numbet of years I would have a massage by the same guy every day of my holiday. When Covid struck he returned home and I thought I'd never see him again. Then on my first night, as I walked through Boyztown, I heard my name being called. I turned around to see him rushing up to me. I was really happy to connect with him, and he was happy because his walking atm had arrived. He gave me a long sob-story - some of which was no doubt true- and told me he was desperately in need of money. So I said I'd be back around midnight and he could come back to my hotel. When I went to pick him up, he was sitting drinking with his friends at the massage place. He told me he was to drunk to do anything. But.,.but...I told you I would come and pick you up tonight! Never mind. I'll see you tomorrow night. Same,same. Sorry, I'm drinking with my friends. Next day I get a request for 3000 baht. When I explained that I wasn't a charity and that he'd have to earn it- I had already given him 2 chances to make some money - he got very angry and stormed off. We never spoke again.

Trump's butt plug in the middle for those very few times when Emmet's head isn't firmly inserted in Trump's ass.

I don't think I can be considered stingy by any measure unless I really run out of money and limit on my line of credit but in my book if price was agreed it not up to boy to ask for more. Only exception I can envision is if he went, and quite far at that, outsulide of his limits ( my very recent case, boy never kissed but this time he planted one on me right away saying " this is my New Year gift to you"). So I,d condider boy requesting more than agreed as not being fair. Not necessarily cross him over but playing trick would be noted and on subsequent occasion I, d mention in no uncertain times that I did ot like it. Stuff from 7/11 on another hand I consider outside of compensation scope regardless if it was the boy who asked to buy something or me suggested I can buy something for him.

Don't you have the answer to this tattooed on you somewhere, like your forehead ?

An ambulance has been included to most of his motorcades. Former presidents don't usually get that. They must know something we don't. His days are numbered. I hope Melania can fake the tears when it happens.🥲

I've had fun in both places - in Colombia, I went to Medellin, so I can't speak for other places. My Grindr never had so much action. I had more than 20 or more guys contacting me every day - sometimes taps, and often messages with photos. Some wanted money, others just wanted to meet. I was very selective because I was staying in an apartment with a door man and didn't want to look like a slut, so I had a few guys I saw more than once. One I paid, the other was free. Both were well-hung. In the DR, in Santo Domingo, there are many ways to meet guys. I've used Grindr to meet guys for pay. I also enjoy Cine Lido, a very run down porno theater that is very hot, dirty and sweaty, but I always have a good time there for free. There are saunas in both places, but I have not been to them. If you are looking to hire guys, I think both places are good destinations. The weather in Medellin is milder and it rains for a short time every day but it is more comfortable. In the DR, it's a great place to go if you want a tropical environment and want to sit by the pool or go to some of their beautiful beaches.

There was a 3rd boy asking to be offed too...but my room at the quarter isn't exactly very big 🤣

Only 2? What happened?

I had a different reaction about Colombia. I found the people there to be very warm and "gay" in the old meaning of the term: waitresses were literally singing as they brought my food out. People were making so much eye contact on the streets, on the buses, etc., that it was getting confusing. I had to remind myself that they are just friendly tropical people and no come-on was intended. The DR is a much smaller country than the other two so the men are more limited in availability (no saunas with 20-30 garotos) and variety (almost exclusively caramel, moreno, or black). But the few men in this small country have HUGE things between their legs. If you leave the DR without bagging at least a couple 8-inchers, ask for your money back.

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Just a update. U can definitely bring boys up to your room at the quarter. I'm staying in the main tower and had to pass by one of the staff. He didn't bat an eyelid even tho I had 2 boys with me 😏

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Our first trip of 2024 and OMG this trip made up for the lack of fun that we had in brazil. So do you guys remember the video i posted of the young 24 year old last month? in the video he was having sex with this bottom and was smacking and chocking the bottom? well he and i had plans to meet friday evening when we arrived to sdq. we leave fll one hour late and arrive to sdq kinda late. we were both tired and i really wasnt interested in doing anything the evening we arrived but i called the 24 year old to see if hew would push the time we were scheduled to meet back one hour. i received a text back from him saying that he wasnt in town this weekend and wouldnt be back until sunday. ive learned in the past to never tell the guys when im arriving because they tell their friends and then i start to receive a lot of text messages from guys that weve messed around with in the past who i might not want to have sex with on that particular trip. i told the 24 year old but he told me not to tell anyone that we were in communication with each other and i promised him that i wouldnt. the reason he made me promise that is because i was introduced to him by a bottom who used to film with me and my husband. actually its the bottom in the video who hes choking. i told him no problem and i didnt reach out to that bottom. i think the bottom follows me on social media because i started posting on my page and he sent me a curious emoji but i didnt respond back to him. ok, so anyway the 24 year old told me that he wouldnt be back in town until saturday night or sunday. i was a little upset but i have a ton of guys in the gallery and i knew that i could contact a big dick dominican to come over and dig deep in me. i called the big dick haitian that i know. in the text message you will see that he immediately responds and tells me that he is on his way. he arrives to the apartment, showers then walks out the bathroom and immediately starts to suck my nipples. i was highly turned on then reached down and felt his dick. as always it was hard as a rock and ready to be sucked so i obliged.after our foreplay i lead him outside by his dick, gave him a condom, lubed up my ass and bent over in the doggy style. he eases his big haitian dick in me and we fucked out back with the lounge chair making lots of noise that im sure the neighbor heard us. even if they didnt hear the lounge chair moving im sure they heard his loud when he shot his haitian load and if they didnt hear that, im sure they heard my moan because he kept his dick inside me and played with my nipples until i shot my load. when we were dont i asked what he was doing for the night. he told me that marlowes was having a big party and that we should all go. i told him that we were tired and hungry and just wanted to get something to eat and go to bed. we all cleaned up and walked out together. he walked to marlowes and we walked to the restaurant. after we ate i told my husband that we should go to marlowes. omg thank god we did go to marlowes because it was packed to capacity. the models were lined up on the sidewalk vying for attention. they all had their cell phones out and the minute you walked you they were showing you pictures of their big dicks. it was complete insanity but we were both in heaven. the sidewalk outside of the club was packed with sexy dominican guys selling dick. ive never seen this club packed like this. one guy had already had my husband pinned up against the wall and another guy was in my face trying to get me to look at his phone but there was this gorgeous mf in a tank top. he was muscular and was just so sexy and handsome. omg this mf could be a model. he was just so sexy and good looking. the guy who was in my face with his phone was talking to me and i asked in the crowd, do you have a big dick and the guy in the tank top walks over to me, puts his hands around my waist, begins to suck my neck and says i have a very big dick for you baby. i lost it in that moment. he had me completely turned on on that sidewalk. there were about 20 other guys on that sidewalk but i knew that i wanted to feel this guys dick in my ass. i asked him to put his number in my phone. he also saw that i had social media acoounts and went through my phone, found his profile and followed sent friend requests to himself and accepted them in front of the club. the security guard in front of marlowes and i gave each other big hugs. i always slide him 10 dollars when i arrive and he always lets me know which guys in the clubs have big dicks. about 2 other guys talked to me on the sidewalk and i put their numbers in my phone. but i knewwwwwwwwwww that the guy with the athletic/muscular would be the one to that i would sleep with that night. we walked inside marlowes and omg. it was packed to capacity. the guys were wall to wall. it had the brazalian sauna feel to it because the guys were shoulder to shoulder in the place. i told my husband to get as many phone number as he could and i would do the same. you couldnt walk 5 steps in that club without someone grabbing your arm trying to talk to you. we had no idea that it was a huge party in this club this weekend but we struck dominican gold with all the numbers we had gathered. we walked to the back of the club where they have the sex booths. on the couches were dominican guys with their hard dicks on the couch stroking the dick and encouraging you to come touch their dicks. i saw a few guys go inside the booths for sex and was immediately turned on. i walked over to one guys who was stroking his dick but didnt touch his dick. i asked did he have whatsapp. he asked for my phone and when i reached to give it to him he took my hand, put it on his dick while he put his number in my phone. he had a huge dominican dick and it was hard. we spent about 5 minutes in the back and then walked back into the main area of the club. marlow was standing in the middle of the club with a black short set on. my husband shook his hand and i did so after my husband. i leaned in and told him omg this is amazing. he smiled and said thank you baby. he is suchhhhhhhh a sweetheart. i was ready to walk back outside and on our way out there was this short guy against the wall. my husband was in front of me and i spoke to the short guy. he asked, do you like big dicks? i said hell yeah. its the only kind i like. he took my hand and put my hand on his hard dick. i said omg. i kept my hand on his dick and called my husband. i told my husband, come touch his dick. the guy looked at us smiling and said i come to your hotel and fuck both of you right now. i told my husband that i wanted the guys from the sidewalk and my husband had met some guy he was interested in outside as well. i took the guys number and told him that i would call him tonight. we left the club and my muscular guy from the sidewalk approached me and said im going with you. i told him ok. all i can pay is $40US he said thats fine. im going to fuck you really good. the 3 of us walked back to the apartment. the guy showered, came out the room and started to suck my nipples and just kiss me all over. i was so turned on. there was one problem. his dick didnt get hard. after 5 minutes i said, pene no duro. he asked for my cell phone. he searched for some sex site, laid on his back and began to watch some straight porn. within minutes he dick was rock hard. i got in the bed missionary, gave him a condom, lubed my hole and he went to work on my insides. i was so turned on because he stroked my hole like a veteran sex worker and i could hear him making noises while he was fucking me. as long as he had that phone in his hand he drilled me until he shot a nice load. what made me fall even more in love with this guy is that he nutted and continued to fuck me for about 5 more minutes. This is going to have to be part one of this story and i will pick up tomorrow and post more because the trip got even crazier after the first night.

First day in Manaus, I only got one boy to my hotel: https://www.garotos.com.br/acompanhante/manausam/bernardo-2 He didn’t kiss but otherwise was great: a stunning boy who stayed very hard the whole time, and he let me have him deep and fast without any complaints. Champion bottom, Perfect hygiene, and most importantly he had a body to kill for, which I spent 20 minutes kissing and licking, it was amazing. When I was finished, I thought he was gonna leave right away, but no, he offered a second round, if I wanted to bottom myself. Given his cock wasn’t huge, I thought “I can handle him” and I definitely needed more, so I said yes right away. He was a great top as well! He asked for 150 reais + Uber, I gave him 200 cash. He was happy with that. Then he left to his job, which is apparently, modelling for clothes.

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Totally meaningless! It was the big story of the past few weeks only because nothing else was happening. It was the only story on TV last night only because all the channels and networks love elections with all the visuals and numbers. And I'm sure that last night's NFL playoff games took millions of TV eyes away from the nonstop election coverage elsewhere.

From MSN Art is in the air at Bangkok’s townsquare for three days, as Colorful Bangkok Expo 2024 is here for all the artsy people of the city. Famous for being fenced off for political protestors, the Lan Khon Mueang Townsquare in front of Bangkok City Hall is about to get a very vibrant makeover for three days: 18-21 January, 2024. In this expo, you’ll get to walk through an art market with more than 90 stalls featuring Bangkok artists and designers. It’s a great way to support local talents as they showcase their works and put up their art up for sale. Colorful Bangkok Expo 2024 is created to transform Lan Khon Mueng Townsquare into more of an artspace and potentially exposing people of Bangkok to art. This time, we’re really up close and personal. Entry is free of charge. Link to event schedule of activities https://www.msn.com/th-th/news/other/colorful-bangkok-expo-2024-to-turn-the-townsquare-into-a-space-full-of-art/ar-AA1n3kVT

Only if they were worn enough.

Well, Venezuela has got to be the most disastrous failure of a country on the planet. Despite one of the world's largest oil reserves, horrific corruption have led that country to be in a catastrophic economic situation. Yes, there are countries which are poorer, but none with such massive natural resources. What an outrageous, almost unbelievable fiasco.

You have to change that to an Argentinean flag if you want to get under Latbear4blk's skin lol

Get adjoining room.

@floridarob have I told you lately how much I hate you? LMAO! YES, its written on my forehead in English, but all the guys in sdq speak Spanish so they don't understand what it means. Lol! @Mavica please dont laugh at @floridarob. We dont want to encourage his humor in these threads. Not encouraging him is actually in the bylaws. Many who's encouraged him in the past have been banned from the group and never heard from again. LMAO! Hope you're having a great start to 2024, fellas!

The cost of sanuk in Thailand? Here's my take. I learnt all about Pattaya and the gay scene from a rent-boy in Amsterdam's Blue Boy.Yes, a brothel. Those who recall the scene will remember that clients paid for an hour and, when the time was up, the front desk would phone....and that was it, even if you were in the middle of a happy moment. On the occasion I'm recalling, we'd finished early (please avoid any sarcasm!) and my partner, a painfully-cute British Black guy, to fill up the hour talked to me about the scene in Pattaya. I booked my first visit on my return home. And so yes, the last thirty years of my life has been the consequence of that encounter. Ex-punters will also remember that, back in the late 90s, the cost of an hour at Blue Boy, and the other similar establishments, was £100 plus. Six months in Pattaya later I was paying the equivalent of £20. I've just checked a couple agencies in London on-line. The cost of an hour here? between £150 and £200.

Shame that this sort of message is necessary.

If God made Trump, then there is no God.

I just want to say that the white hats with gold lettering that Trump gave his precinct Captains are very ugly and horrible branding. They are a statement about class and privilege. Trump is superior to anybody running or caucusing. He could care less about serving the American people. He is saying look at me, look at me! He is a clear and present danger to America and the Global Community.

I know! But I think it shows poor consideration for the working boys.

If this is your first trip to Brazil, let me strongly recommend against bringing guys back to your hotel. Even many frequent visitors prefer the safety of the sauna. You will find lots of similar warnings on this forum.

I will post more pictures and videos soon. Until then enjoy. There is so much more to this story.

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Yes, indeed. I hope you are paying your respects to Cambodian youth, as well as discussing their agricultural issues...

Thanks, yes better, able to sample twink from Grindr, Lao, a success!

I like Hot House. Pleasant atmosphere. Hot friendly strippers and sexy interactive live show at the end of the party around 2 or 2.30 am.

Some saunas with GP in other 'smaller' cities are mixed and do have some client-on-client actions. Even 202, especially in the steam room (sometimes they turned the lights off) and sometimes the sauna room. I played with a few clients there before. Some of the clients are GP-quality too ...

I swear you make me think I'm losing my mind sometimes by the mixed messages/posts that you have here......are you bipolar?

A guy in their 40s can be very hot and sexy too. But what I saw wasn't exactly my cup of tea...and my main complaint was the guys were wearing too much clothes and they were not cute AND wearing Monkey Masks on stage...but that is my personal view. Others might find them hot. I do agree with this tho. If you want hot guys, u have to pay which I'm very willing to. But it is true that many of those visiting the bars are not generous with their tips.

Hi Asian explorer. it is always nice to know a few words in the language of the country you are visiting but thanks to google translator you do not need to learn Portuguese. Few hints about São Paulo: 1) Where to stay? I would suggest near Avenida Paulista. It is close to Lagoa, safer than other neighborhoods, lots of daily attractions (museums, restaurants, bars, shops) 2) Saunas There are 2 main saunas with GPs (rent men): Lagoa and 555. Both are close to Paulista. Lagoa has more options, 555 tends to have fewer guys. 3) Massage places I need to visit the ones in Thailand, but form what I have read it is not the same thing. However, they ar a good option to meet guys. I would suggest: inhouse, Lotus and Gold. All of them have websites where you can select the masseur and send a WhatsApp to the place scheduling a session with the guy of your choice. When are you planning to visit?

My first stop is in Bogota, today, just to see st moritz . Basically it works like a Brazilian sauna. Except the house want to sell massages for 60K and the boys seem to be going along with that instead of using the free room (they get a kick back, presumably). After that the boys are asking for 150k or 200K for sex in the room I found only one to be genuinely sexy, the others are ok, I would say yes for free but I wouldn’t pay 200K for them, given I’m gonna be in northern Brasil soon, I need to keep my libido as high as possible. One thing which surprises me is that I have to teach the boys to clean their hole. I like to lick there but I can’t do that before I take a shower with them, and clean them myself, they are just not ready, and don’t seem to know that is a thing. in Manaus tomorrow.

There,s similarly tittled thread already but I could, t find it so started new one. Arrived early evening yesterday. Decimated by long trip and jet lag still managed to do short survey of realm. Area much busier than in July, my last time here. A lot of young farangs. One visitor on Patpong market was, so stunning that I almost pretended to tipple over something, just to hang on to him for brief moment to keep my balance but regained my composure and dropped idea. Patpong market and soi 4 fairly busy. With another member visited Jupiter. House half full just be fore show started but filled in with big group of visitors soon after. Show pretty brief, I think just 4 numbers but two erections visible. Mao, heavily tattooed hunk who left to Moonlight while ago is back. Three walkabout, first in briefs, no numbers, second in white shorts, no numbers and last one in black jeans, with numbers although quite a few of the guys did not have one meaning thay are already booked. During walkabout I tipped 2 best looking guys and expected as minimum acknowledging nod or smile during next walk but no. I was like transparent. So same old there, handsome but disinterested guys. Good for them but I took off for Moonlight. As it was 11.45 crowd was thinning, few floor boys still available and few modes, dressed already. Hoping to see one of three guys but to if them did ot show up tonight and third one, while sitting was, already booked by some Asian, as attractive as himself. Off to Hot Male beer bar, quite a crowd. Got myself a drink, invited one of their boys for his but he was, still doing some errands prompting comment from one of the patrons " you bought him drink and have nothing to show for it". Lost all hope for warm bed tonight but there, s still Suriwong where I spotted guy I offed in the past few times. Bingo! So to summarize, Patpong still alive and presents a lot of opportunities.