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First of all, thanks to everyone on this forum. I've been reading it for years - could it be 15? - or definitely before my first ever trip to Brazil, which was three lifetimes ago. It provided me with a lot of info and a bit of a chuckle - and I'm sorry I was on silent all that time. I almost registered when all non-members were kicked out a couple of years back, but then the gods above were merciful to allow us back for a part of it, and my laziness prevailed. Did I say again I'm sorry? - I am. It's been a hell of a time to see Brazil (and other parts of the world) changing, the same way I was changing too: I came to Rio for the first time 14-15 years ago, totally hated it (the real to USD at 1.6 at that time didn't help), then came back a couple of years later, then there was one whole winter I spent in Brazil traveling to every corner of it (locally, it was summer of course) - and the rest is history. I traveled especially often in the past 4 years throughout the pandemic - it was pretty much one of the only two countries always open (along with Mexico - but I prefer Brazil), and then there were incredibly cheap tickets, initially in 2020-2021 basically free, then just very cheap (that loophole has recently closed, but stayed open for the incredible three years). I was traveling around the world throughout the pandemic pretty much as I usually do, so it passed me by (and by some kinky luck, covid passed me too - never had it) - and I think I was back in Brazil as early as Sep 2020 I think, and then visited about twice a year. So that historic context aside (and again - thanks to everyone) - several observations on this trip. This year, I'm on a sabbatical, so traveled a bit more than usual - I think I've been to Rio four times in 2023. Good memories - first time Carnival, first time the New Year's Eve a week ago. Amazing. Brazil - and saunas - are defo different not only from what it was 10-15 years ago, but from pre-covid too. I still enjoy 117 and 202 very much - but as some others on this forum, I wonder how long they will last. It's not that apps are killing them - Onlyfans are doing that. The standard of the guys in 117 and 202 has visibly dipped - I'm still satisfied very much every evening I go there, but the standard of the guys there say in 2010s is no longer there - they are doing Onlyfans, or Rhyheim's porn, or it's easier to travel to Europe to make better money there than it was 10-15 yrs ago. A case in point, a guy I know, Henry - he started doing Onlyfans with some good success about two years ago but he was still in saunas maybe 2-3 nights a week. He's a stunner, his Onlyfans is successful, I saw him at the Rio gay pride in November as a part of the model entertainers crowd, but he's not in the saunas anymore. The best guys in 117/202 are now those who fly in from the provinces for a couple of weeks to make money - like Walton from Fortaleza, he's another stunner, and he does some stints in Rio for two-three weeks - I just saw him yesterday in Fortaleza, and he's flying back to Rio again on Weds. I also started to really really like Point. 202 seems such a warmer, more humane, better organised sauna (and aircon in suites works all the time, unlike in 117). I really like the vibe, the atmosphere, that warm feeling of a crowd near the bar - and moreover, there are some absolute gems of a guy who go to 202 only, and never to 117. I guess, Junior scouts them somehow, and even though a lot of the guys work both saunas, some 202-exclusive guys are marvels. One of my favourites in the past several visits is David (or the correct spelling he put into my phone contacts, Deyved) - just a stunning guy with an incredible smile and an incredible chemistry. He comes only to 202, and only a couple of nights a week at most, but he's one of my highlights. Stunning body, stunning technique and the attention to your needs - for a straight guy - he's also never hiked his fee to 200 as everybody else by the end of 2023 in Rio and stays at 150 (still gets more from me). He saw me at the reception when I came to 202 for the first time on this trip, hugged me, kissed me, and then said "don't come with me now, I will be for longer today, hire me towards the end of the night, and I will give you the biggest cumshot possible". And he did. With all that said, 202 is losing ground against 117 - or at least that's my impression over the past couple of years. 202 is back to their two big nights - Monday and Wednesday - but lost all other days. I still remember fabulous Fridays at Point - that was their good night too - but then two or even three times I came to Point on a Friday, and it was totally dead, like Elvis dead. Then, next Friday I came to 117 - and everyone was there, and the house was buzzing. At 117, even slow nights are acceptable, but at 202 if it's dead it's no shit dead. 117 attempted to hijack Wednesdays - it hasn't worked so far. So 202 has still solid Mondays and Wednesdays, but the rest of the week it's 117 - even though I'd have preferred it differently. Even this past week between Xmas and NY, 117 was insanely busy, on some nights the line was to the street (never seen that before), whereas 202's Mons and Weds were good and busy but not over the top busy as 117 was all that week. (Still, last Weds I was #17 in the line for the suites at Point at 8pm - so it was still a good night - however, several boys told me it had been busier before and not anymore). So why this is happening, I don't know - as I'd like 202 to thrive, as I just like them, but it's not terribly easy for them it seems. (Interesting that from next Sunday they will be open on Suns too - I'd be keen to know if they are able to break the 117's Sunday monopoly). Meio Mundo - where do I start. Unlike many posters on the forum, I actually quite liked Meio Mundo back in the day. It has this no-nonsense down-to-earth vibe that was a welcome occasional break from the 117 Men's Health posturing. Yes, it was dirty, but it was kinky dirty. During the pandemic at its new location, Meio Mundo started to drift from its previous "favela sauna" concept to the "drag queen theatre night" concept - that's where it lost the boys, and clients. Still, several of my experiences at Meio Mundo were golden. I think it was two years ago during the pandemic when I came to Meio Mundo because they were the first to start live sex shows in Rio (inbetween the long drag queen sets). It is there where I met Lucas - he was 18 at that time, stunning, with an 8-pack and a shy smile - the definition of a lanky twink top. A friend of his, a typical Meio Mundo favela-style garoto. brought Lucas with him - it was his first time in the sauna. Lucas was so obviously head and shoulders above everybody there that the Meio Mundo owner immediately brought him a free caipirinha and started to fawn over him - the guy was gold. I offered him a programa straight away, and Lucas was initially timid, still with a caipirinha in the suite, not sure what and how to do - sex was great. I was his first ever client, and I think he's likely straight, he's sort of a fixture at 117 now, and we hooked up last week, two years later, for the first time since that forst meeting - Lucas remembered our first sex, I laughed "well, you looked very different from other Meio Mundo garotos on that day", he laughed even harder saying "no doubt about that". He doesn't go to Meio Mundo anymore, and I didn't visit on any of my trips this year - their IG is all full of drag queens, no more live sex shows. But now to live sex shows. The biggest change I've seen in Rio throughout the pandemic is the explosion of Berlin-style cruising bars. Taurus Bar is just 5 min walk from 117 and is most resourceful of them all. Then there is Seven Bar, the new Cruising Parada bar, something else in Centro, something else in Botafogo, etc. They are mostly non-GP cruising bars, but what they do is they usually haul a bunch of Onlyfans models (2 on a rainy day, 5 on a good day, I've been to a night with 8 guest Onlyfans models) - they are billed as the "interactive sex show" but pretty much 15 sec after it starts it becomes very interactive, and Onlyfans models have sex with all who paid 35 or 40 or whatever reais as cover - it's a free-for-all 40-50 person orgy with a bunch of Onlyfans models in the middle (that's how Taurus Bar does it, and I see it as a valid investment of my 35-40 reais). These are still very local-geared places, and the vibe is VERY different from the GP saunas, but more of these places open, and it's quite an experience. I'm in Fortaleza now where such bars equally exploded - there are several of them - and they are all strictly non-GP, just a general orgy. As other saunas across Brazil, California is struggling to keep pace with Onlyfans, apps, etc. - it is still a very fine sauna, and I had lots of sex in the past few days, but as in Rio and SP, the top-tier gobsmacking talent is no longer there. Still, some amazing guys - humble, polite, good in sex, but the Greek gods are gone. There was a good guy from Fortaleza, Wesley, whom I met at 117 after Christmas - I told him I would be coming to Fortaleza and he said let's keep the line open privately, as he said he's not working in saunas back home in Fortaleza - he says he does underwear modeling on IG (whatever that means) but saunas are no-no. I could have easily seen someone like him at California say 7-8 years ago - but that's basically a trend. Onlyfans, IG and private appointments over whatsapp. California in Fortaleza still the only GP sauna. I've been to Dragon Club several times this year - easily the best-equipped sauna in all of Brazil, but usually just a couple of GPs, and mostly the jaded ones. They have some interesting events - I've been to their Mr Dragon competition where incredibly beautiful guys where on stage, but they did not mingle or even stay after the competition and the house emptied out. This weekend, I've been to a free food slash dance party at Dragon starting at 1400 (!) on Sunday - they had free feijoada and caipirinha till 1600, and then some professional Axe dancing for two hours from 1400 till 1600. I arrived at 1530, and Dragon was full of people, munching and drinking. The (professional straight) dancers were really great but were visibly not too comfortable performing in a gay sauna for towel-clad people - some 80mins into their performance they were pressured to lose T-shirts, and they were visibly uncomfortable with one dancer mouthing "no" - they did lose T-shirts for one song and promptly put it back right for the next number. There were maybe three, max four jaded GPs in this packed house - but I quickly left for California where a couple of those Dragon GPs ended up too afterwards. My only guess why this is not happening for Dragon - high entry fee for garotos? I'm going to Recife next where there were two very OK saunas - not GP-focused but where I still found some incredible freelancing GPs in the past couple of years, so I look forward to checking them out again.8 points
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Well some news for West Australians at least, Thai airways has announced they are returning direct flights to Perth on March 31st and it looks like daily flights. All bodes well for a mid year return to the land of smiles, hot bodies and stiff dicks for me The link below says the 27th but Thai quoted 31st on Facebook Thai airways returns to WA3 points
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Onlyfans really killed the business, I hope gays wake up and see that it's not worth paying to see naked men if you can pay to have them in your bed3 points
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In Medellin going rate is 100-150-200 mil COP (not USD!). Mileroticos guys/hot fit guys in high demand will ask 250 mil but will lower to 150 or 200 if you question the offer (politely). Rough street trade will take you to short time hotel for as low as 40-50 mil. + you pay around 20 mil for the room. Any guy in CO insisting on 150 USD is out of his mind/not worth it. Just ignore and move on. Plenty of other fish out there.3 points
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Sincere question Dominican Republic or Colombia?
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Depends a lot if you want free Grindr boys or GPs. In terms of free boys, Colombia offers more diversity and many Venezuelans are available too. Don’t even both with free Dominicans, as most grindr-like apps are location based, those who live in affluent neighborhoods (ex close to blue mall) are all fat and old. If you choose to pay, then again, Colombia offers more diversity but GPs in DR are better endowed.3 points -
GOD MADE TRUMP
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Well, I do. But, this Beef I am referring to is Netflix. It is amazing and was a suprise. Many friends suggested I watch it and it kept getting recommended to me so I gave it a try. And, it was a truly delightful dark comedy drama trainwreck. It was about roadrage initially but the stories were developed in such beautiful detail that you keep hoping and wishing the main characters would choose the right path at least once. But, as luck haves it, the show was additive and I'm so glad I watched it. It has a 99% positive rating on Rotten Tomatoes.2 points
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I hope so, then everyone will have to go back to the brothels2 points
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Naples
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Wish I thought of that one, not going to the Vatican, that comeback 😆2 points -
Naples
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Never been to Naples other than in the train station in my way to Amalfi. From friends, I understand that pre covid there was a cinema, Argos or something like that, very similar to the Kosmos in Athens (easy accessible and cheap gay4pay fun). The cinema closed during covid and never reopened. Apparently there is another cinema near the train station but it is nowhere near as good. Rent-wise on Hunqz, there is some African talent but it is quite challenging and you need to exercise caution.2 points -
Naples
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For decades I've never found Italy very promising for us....best action I used to see was at a park between McDonald's and the Termini station in Rome, and that was mediocre.2 points -
GOD MADE TRUMP
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Terry Amann, pastor of the Church of the Way in Des Moines, found the video distasteful. “Christians have no right to be offended by anything since Christ went to the cross totally innocent for us guilty sinners,” he said. “That being said, (the video) demeans Christianity, Trump and the people who made it. It says a lot about the people around Trump and their ‘worldly’ understanding of Christianity.” Trump f***ed up!!!!!!!!!!!2 points -
Will They Hold A Reunion At The DC Jail???????????????
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says he'll pay for their lawyers.... he doesn't even pay his own lawyers, lmao2 points -
Will They Hold A Reunion At The DC Jail???????????????
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Oh, I think he holds about 181 of the top 200 most idiotic comments made on the board ever.2 points -
You need to ask - but my experience they most likely will give you their whatsapp and you can take it from there one-on-one next day or whenever. They still solicit offline clients very much (possibly for a higher fee) - but think that being seen in saunas is sorta below their status now. That said, in the past year, both in Rio and in SP saunas I've been repeatedly quoted 300-350 for a sauna programa by the guys who understood they are clearly above the rest in the sauna looks-wise - I never took those offers, plenty fish in the sea, but I did see others (mainly foreign tourists) taking them, so good for the guys as their approach paid off, not so good for the rest of us. That may give you a hint that the OF guys from those bars may quote you much different rates for private meetings than the sauna rates you may have got used to.1 point
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Will They Hold A Reunion At The DC Jail???????????????
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Planes collide on landing at Haneda Airport
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In the USA, there would be investigations, millions spent on consultants and after a year, no changes because the airlines didn't want to do them.1 point -
Brazil - umpteenth trip, first report
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so true, apps have minimum impact on Sauna- Onlyfans is killing this business 1st tier guys no longer need to meet clients offline1 point -
Will They Hold A Reunion At The DC Jail???????????????
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They are HOSTAGES according to Trump. Please use the correct word.1 point -
From the Associated Press Japan issues improved emergency measures following fatal collision Japan's transportation ministry said Tuesday it has introduced improved emergency measures for the country's airports, a week after a fatal collision between a Japan Airlines jetliner and a coast guard plane at Tokyo's busy Haneda airport that is seen as a result of human error. The measures — including more visible stop line markings on taxiways leading to runways and use of clearer language in traffic control communication — are to be implemented right away at Haneda while they are slated to go into effect at other airports across the country in the coming weeks. The probe into the collision has focused on what caused the coast guard flight crew to believe they had a go-ahead for their take off. A partial release of the air traffic control transcript showed no clear takeoff approval was given to the coast guard plane. According to the text, the Tokyo air control gave the JAL plane permission to land on the 34R runway, noting that there is a departing plane, with the JAL pilot repeating the instruction. In the transcript, the traffic control tells the coast guard plane that it was given a “No. 1” priority for takeoff, an expression some experts say might have led the Bombardier crew to mistakenly believe they got a permission to proceed to the runway. According to a report Tuesday in the Asahi newspaper, the coast guard plane may have started communication with the traffic control only after the JAL plane got its landing permission and may not have been aware of the airliner’s arrival. The ministry's new emergency measures call for making sure pilots understand the terminology specifically related to runway entry, urging them to repeat the instructions given by the traffic controls, and ask if they are uncertain. They also instruct traffic control not use numerical terms such as No. 1 suggesting takeoff and landing priorities to avoid confusion. The Haneda traffic control tower has created a new position specifically assigned to monitor a radar system that indicates any unauthorized runway entry, beginning next Saturday. The Haneda airport is the world's third busiest, and preferred of the two in the Tokyo region because of better accessibility to the city's downtown. During its peak time, flights come and leave every few minutes, a frequency comparable to Tokyo's commuter trains.1 point
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Thailand's New Government To Ban Cannabis For Recreational Use
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Has there been much of a detriment to Thai society since Cannabis was legalised? Beyond the huge number of cannabis shops that is?1 point -
ShamelessMack, thank you for the warning
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https://www.vancouverpolicemuseum.ca/post/the-legend-of-mitzi-dupree Mitzi Dupree was already a legend in western Canada when I was in university in Victoria in the early 80s. I went with my roommates to see her show at one of the bars in Victoria. It was actually pretty entertaining watching her and the mixed group of young men mainly from the university and the navy base who packed the bar. The hormones were flowing freely and it was the only time I've been in a large group sexually aroused straight men all squished up against each other. One of the sailors in the back of the bar yelled, "I can smell you from here," at Mitzi..... but I think it was the other men he was smelling.1 point -
Thermas: hotel? trnsprt?
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To answer the original question I stay at the Olivia Balmes hotel and get a taxi. Plentiful and cheap.1 point -
Sao Paulo/Recife...First Time
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I know who you're talking about. He has a Greek name and was moving to Greece, he told me. He is beautiful, but he asked for way more than the going price (I remembering him wanting 300). My experience has been that the more a guy asks for, the more disappointing he'll be in the cabine (because he's stuck up). I guess this one is worth it, according to your review, though I still have doubts.1 point -
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I'm planning to go this week (at the park)1 point
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GOD MADE TRUMP
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The video nailed it. I said in a different thread I find Trump to be extremely sexually enticing. This is why. I came twice watching that video. I can't help myself. Who can? If I were to make the smallest of critiques, I don't believe the video gives Melania the credit she deserves. Even the strongest of leaders needs a partner (meaning a woman, not a queer and definitely not Mike Pence) by his side. On April 26, 1970 God made Melania. She completes Trump. She makes him his best. Thank you God!1 point -
Brazil Visa Requirement Postponed Again
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I guess it is shocking and hard to process for some inhabitants of rich countries that they are not as wanted in less developed countries as they think they should be.1 point -
Quick note -- $150 USD is very high, but there are many scorts on Rentmen in Colombia advertising that rate. FWIW. Colombia is no exception to the problem of high inflation. Am seeing the cost of all basic needs (food, shelter, clothing) have risen in the few months since I was last here. So am not surprised that many of the "pros" are now asking 150-200K for a session. Yes there is wide variation of prices for scort services here, but I am in the "you get what you pay for camp". Will add that you need to always agree to a final price -- that should be the starting point of any engagement here to avoid problems.1 point
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Sincere question Dominican Republic or Colombia?
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I have not been to the Dominican Republic but I have been twice to Colombia and Brazil at least 5 times. So all I can compare is Colombia versus Brazil. Colombia: People are less warm and inviting and that makes it harder to find guys randomly like you do in Brazil. When you do find guys or go to the sex spots you will realize that the guys on average are shorter, less buff, and less endowed(gifted) than the guys in Brazil. The best gay city in Colombia is Bogota due to Theatron and Gigolo Erotic House and other venues. Plus Bogota has a whole gay area similar to Republica in Sao Paulo.1 point -
Hi All, I thought I'd share with you briefly some of my experiences over the last couple of weeks in the LoS. As a spoiler to avoid disapointing, I'll say it was not a sex-filled escapade, though some spicy action did happen (which of course, I shall describe) I arrived in BKK feeling pretty fresh faced, all things considered. Taxi prices from airport seem to have gone up... 600baht said the Taxi Driver! After some firm negotiation, that mostly involved me saying no to his flat fee, and saying I would get another taxi, he agreed to use the meter. I pay express tolls and baggage fee. Not a problem. (For those interested: To my hotel in Silom, Meter was at ~300 baht, tolls were 100 baht, + baggage was 50 baht I think. I left him with 500 baht.) I checked in to the hotel, unpacked, had a nap before heading out fairly early for the evening to find something to eat. I checked out Soi 4, which seemed super busy and a little overwhelming. So I took a wander through Patpong, and soon found myself at the Foodland there. Much quieter for me to settle down in to my holiday. I wandered back to Soi 4, and sat outside Stranger bar for a couple of drinks, checking out Grindr, and acclimatising to the hustle and bustle. I wandered up the Soi, and found myself wandering into Bipolar, above the bar on the corner. It was busy and the drag show was passable, the "hostess" being australian, so very easy for me to understand. Following a few drinks in Bipolar, I wandered along to see what was happening in DJ station. Much has changed, and I was a little surprised and happy to see its new layout. It's much easier to wander around the club now, and sample everything each room has to offer. I stayed here for a few drinks, dances for a bit and caught a few smiles. For someone who's been living a very quiet life, it was quite the night to wake me up!1 point
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Massage shops on Sutthisan Winitchai Rd.
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I'm glad you appreciate the map that I have drawn, and yours is a good question that gives me a chance to explain the editorial policy behind the blog and its contents. To answer your specific question first, about the others that are left out ..... I have read about 27M massage near Inthamara 27, Home Massage about 100 metres short of the Vibhavadi Rangsit expressway, and 15M massage a bit NW of Exit 3 of Saphan Khwai. But (a) they are outside the boundaries of my map; (b) I have not verified their locations personally. My general policy for my blog is that what I say is based on personal observation and verification. It is not supposed to be a compendium of the many different things said by others. In the occasional post, I may refer to something reported by others. When that happens, I make that abundantly clear in the text. For maps, if I haven't verified its existance, it is not there. You will notice that I try to take a picture of a shop's front, as sort of proof it is real and that I saw it for myself. The drawback of such a policy is that the blog and its maps may omit places that I don't know about or haven't verified (it becomes under-inclusive). The upside is that I do not risk including things based on hearsay, e.g. resulting in the location marked wrongly. Of course, it would be great if others likewise build their own maps.1 point -
Apollo massage Bangkok
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Only been there once, though good enough that I'd repeat when there's an opportunity. In that one time, my guy was nude from the start, and transitioned to body-to-body midway. That said, I don't know if that is just the guy I hired (whose face is no longer among the pictures that Apollo sends out, so I guess he has quit), or if it is house policy. In the Saphan Khwai places for example, I have yet to discern any house policy, for example. Technique and service standard vary from one guy to the next, and it's likely because the boys are freelancers. Frankly, this is something that the client can indicate, if the place is more brothel than massage. Since the boy is anyway going to remove his shorts midway, I doubt that he'd be offended if, at the very start, the client made some hand gestures that signal him to dispense with textile right away. He should only be delighted at the assurances of "special service required" and tip that are implied. I just glanced up at the pic of Baller again, and now I think he's more Iranian or Indian. Perhaps he is from the localised Indian community of Thailand (which may explain his speaking Thai).1 point -
Apollo massage Bangkok
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Brief Bangkok Reports
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Re original gay bars in Patpong Two. I should have referred to Screwboys as the last remaining of the original gay bars on that street. It was nostalgic to visit anyway. Freshboys Had a drink there. More spacious than Screw Boys. 25 to 30 guys available on stage, a lot on stage at one time. Some 20 customers there too. Drinks 450 Baht. Brief show at 2215 with three sexy shows, big cock etc, and only one drag show with one performer(and no sign of any others waiting in the wings). Similar twinky types to Screwboys and bf thought that 30% of them were Vietnamese. Good playful atmosphere and if you are looking for gay boys this may be a good place to visit. One thing that we noticed was how light skinned the guys were in the bar(and in hindsight also in Screwboys). Really only one darker skinned guy there. It used to be that brown skinned guys were the majority, and guys from Isarn were much in demand. Perhaps there is a commercial motivation to satisfy Asian customer preferences for lighter skins, which is compounded by shortage of available local guys. Give me an Isarn guy anytime! Hotmale Also visited Hotmale, seemed to be around twenty guys, comfortable in their own skins and to be on stage, more guys on the hunky side than Freshboys or Screwboy. It’s a good layout and well lit/staged. Although we were shown to our ringside seats, we were never asked for our drinks orders, which was fine as we weren’t in a rush to drink more. Whole bar was focussed on an Asian table who were supplying drinks and 200 Baht to all the dancers and the waiters and then the doormen. And then anyone wearing Hotmale branded shirts. There may have been some swapping of clothes going on outside the door to allow others to benefit! After 15 minutes we left satisfied to have seen what was on offer and had a(much cheaper) drink at Dragon beer bar down stairs.1 point -
Apollo massage Bangkok
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The photo is not the clearest, but good enough to make out that Apollo Massage now lists a guy of African ancestry. What is interesting though is that the requested tips are 3,000 baht for 1 hour and 3,500 baht for 1.5 hours, (I presume in-house). Not only are Apollo guys generally asking for higher tips than the Saphan Khwai places, as seen from their Line app sample, Dre is asking for twice higher. (Explanation: He is said to be 1.80m tall, weigh 78 kg and fits a condom of size 56, and he is top) Most boys advertised by Apollo offer three tip levels, e.g. "15/17/25" where the third figure indicates an outcall rate, but not this guy. Maybe no ID, so too risky to enter hotels? You can see my November 2023 review of Apollo here: https://shamelessmacktwo.travel.blog/2023/12/10/easy-come/1 point -
that is exaggeration although I can see where your sentiment may came from. Visit to Bang Melea temple near Angkor I recall as one of my worst experience in travelling due to two busloads of Chinese who filled place, expected to be serene specially in the morning, with screams , tried to move some stones and behaved like Huns attacking Rome indeed. But to their credit at least they rose early. Chinese girls sometimes in bars , BBB specially comes to mind behave equally noisy scaring a lot of patrons in process. But there's beneficial reverse to all that. Travelling Chinese are crowding our bars ( on one on my visit in Tawan in July I was under impression it was only two us farangs in crowded bar) , buing drinks, tipping and offing boys and hanging all those stupid 1000 baht garlands on them. Some may be stingy but plenty are not as I was told they like to show off. I witnessed twice boys on the stage were tipped 1000 baht just for standing there and in both cases those tippers were Chinese looking girls . In short they are helping to keep afloat businesses we are frequenting too so hold your nose. For fun I checked Grindr today and it seems there are tons of them ready to party today and go home on Tuesday. So many listings that it seems they crowded out local who I presume don't need to advertise for a moment boys because they are harvesting all those Chinese clients.1 point
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My ultimate off, dreamt about but never realized so far , is to off a hunk just for hand holding session. Few times we were close but always heat prevailed and impatience took us over, not that I'm complaining. I actually in course of conversation asked one of my Tawan boys about non-sex offs and he said that is more frequent than people think. Weirdest story I ever heard was Chinese offing bar guy just to watch him jerking off, less than 5 minutes and full ST tip paid. I was drinking with boy in Hot Male upstairs and we saw other boy being taken by that customer and returning to bar literally several minutes after . Boys rushed to ask what was wrong and that was apparently explanation. I'm not saint either - severely jet lagged went for massage to Senso only to fall asleep immediately only to be waked up by masseur at end of customary 1.5 hr session. Not sure he massaged me but at least I was oiled so shower together was in order. Easy money for boy and perhaps another customer story to tell1 point
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Jason, what's a blackjack cum drinking party?1 point
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Finally had the opportunity to try this shop today. When I arrived and inquired what guys were available, I was presented with an array of about eight cards with photos. After making my selection, a houseboy accompanied to my cubicle on the third floor and pointed out the shower down the hall. Before leaving, he hung a card with my masseur’s photo on the outside of door. My guy arrived about five minutes after I finished showering. He had a huge smile and the first thing he did was give me an embrace and said he be right back. He was hunkier than the photo suggested but proved himself very agile. Following the workout, we showered together which he succeeded in turning into additional fun. Before leaving the lobby, he brought me a cup of warm tea. One hour oil 400. Mattress pad on the floor. Found the facilities very clean throughout. Gladly adding this place to my other list of Saphan Kwai favorites: K Man, One Spa and KK.1 point
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Off Topic Thread June 3 and before
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Back in Thailand from Cambodia, October 2022 trip report
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Day 3 After such busy and fun filled day I slept like a baby till almost 8 am. Line message from my friend asking about breakfast together was already in so I speed up in view that he expects HC to arrive from Pattaya well before noon. Of course breakfast took place in Unesco as we started to call world famous UNESCO heritage designated 7.5 stars Foodland Patpong. He is full of expectancy about HC as he heard so many good things about him, from me as well as others. I warned him that fact I like somebody doesn’t meant he will too even if we like exactly the same types of guys and so far our opinions about guys are 100% aligned. But I feel excitement too since as I said I like the guy even if I feel it’s one sided. After breakfast we went our ways confirming to be in contact about Mahanakhon as we planned yesterday. Shortly after noon K from Tawan showed up as promised for a bit of steam. I noticed he become much bulkier than in May and he confirmed. I warned him jokingly that while I like big boys I don’t like them too big and asked him not to overdo it like and I gave example of one of guys from his bar. Neither of us was in rush until we start feeling hungry. It turned to be well co-ordinated with my friend and HC as soon Line message come that they are hungry to and HC is proposing some seafood buffet place in Icon Siam. In great company I can even eat seafood which normally I don’t, tending to be allergic to it and in Thailand I always have ZYRTEC, allergy relief on me. Shortly we meet downstairs and HC was very surprised to see that guy my friend told him will be going with them and his boy turned out to be me. It was nice to be back in his embraces even for short moment but long enough to notice that he lost a bit of his weight and muscle mass which he confirmed when I asked still proudly noticing he doesn’t have a gram of fat on him . (Soon I will have an opportunity to check that it’s true as we learn in due course). We took BTS to first station on Thonburi side , forgot her name (Krung Thonburi? ) and from there short ride by Golden Line , just one station requiring separate ticket for 15 baht. Golden Line is run by unmanned trains by the way. Restaurant we were heading to was not opened yet so our boys suggested nearby Japanese place and I wondered how come they know such upscale places. It must be their affluent clients taking them there , no doubt. It was kind of fun, food was delivered by robots, tasted great but portions were not that big and I had suspicions that I was only one in our gang who left table feeling kind of full. Bill was sizable as expected, I got quiet reflection that Madrid would be much better option for 1/3 of price but said nothing. It was one thing which caused me to scratch my head discretely. There were 4 of us but dinner conversation was held by K, my friend and me. HC spent all his time on his smartphone which I found odd and indeed bit disrespectful to his host, my friend, never mind K and me. We exchanged knowing glances with my friend and I knew something doesn’t work as it should. Going back to Silom civilization we took mall’s ferry to Saphan Taksin and from there BTS to Chong Nonsi, on the train K announced he is passing MahaNakhon option since he has some business to take care of so it was only three of us who went there. Visibility was good , both boys bravely but visibly uncomfortably stepped on the glass so I had fun not only being there but also watching their trepidations. Trick is , when stepping on the glass floor to look straight ahead , not at chasm under your feet but it seems it easier said than done. My friend , being in his own words not as much butterfly as helicopter, was planning to send HC back to Pattaya tomorrow and since well before start of this trip I was planning to go tomorrow to Pattaya by taxi I told him I will take HC with me , my pleasure indeed. In the hotel both gentlemen went their way and I went to my floor to ponder my next step. Inside room immediately got idea and called V, guy whom my friend recommended back in Dec when we both were in Crown Plaza. He is not a bar nor massage guy but not averse to supplementing his income by keeping guys a company. Great guy with great personality and no nonsense attitude. Other attributes are nothing to sneeze at either. I Lined him, answer was brief “where you are ? , I will come at 6”. We had 1.5 hr of fun, decided he will stay with me till morning to chase away midnight ghosts but in meantime we need to eat something. Being earthly , modest guy he suggested UNESCO i.e Foodland and there he asked if we can go to see the show at Dreamboys. He used to work there briefly but did not like it and found regular job but somehow still has pull to visit bars. I was actually happy since it was my first visit there after their move to former Lucky Boy premises. As soon as we entered and sat down who is smiling at me ?, Soviet who preferred dances to my charms last night and Dit, guy I had reunion with in May, known to me since early days of Roman Empire or 2013 , whatever comes later. Invited both , offered drinks , warned that tonight I’m busy pointing at V who promptly dismissed two boys solution suggested cheekily by Soviet. Tipped 200 each for their troubles of course by way of putting notes deep in their undies, so called by Wikipedia ‘ vinapu tuck”. We watched show which was kind of so-so. Boy parade after show was impressive due to sheer number of boys , perhaps more than 50 but truth to be told quite a few of them are well past ‘best before “ date and several I remembered from various bars in half forgotten already soi Twilight. Honestly I have doubts some of them get ever offed but what do I know? Of course at least half , may be more, were quite to very attractive, great number brings great choice, right? At midnight V and I left and on departure I forced another 100 into undies (yes, vinapu tuck again) of one whom I considered most attractive and who I remember from New Twilight bar visit in May. Day 3 ending in V embraces, one can’t ask for much more and there’s no need for more indeed. Truly comforting , no drama, specimen of man.1 point -
Guys and ruins, ruins and boys -trip to Cambodia in Oct 2022
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As for fun available in Siem Reap now I found 3 massage places ( Men’s resort, Gecko and 168 massage ) and one bar , Barcode. And of course Grindr worked there as well ( I don’t use other apps for now , perhaps in future I will ). Massage at Men’s was very professional, costly at 26$ for 1.50 hrs session and it was just that , very good massage , no extra’s. May be I was again not brave enough to signal or masseur was not interested in any of that , anyways this reflected my previous experience there few years ago. Saying that they must be popular as day before I went there around 8 pm and was told all guys are busy and there’s 1 hour wait involved. Gecko massage is located on main street leading from Old Market and is of mixed staff but guy there I asked for massage knew his job very well, ahem, and I had very pleasant time there and with him , massage 15$ for 1.5 hr, tip twice as much , bit high but he caught me in heat of the moment with request. Anyways I’m not one to haggle about 5 $ or even 10$ . My headquarters when comes to guys was 168 Massage, I found it on my first night when I went to check if Hatha Khmer is still there , it turned out it was replaced by 168. It’s on side street by roundabout past Old market. Massage 10 $ ( 40000 riels) , min tip 20 $ ( 80 000 riels). I went there six evenings in row, my all there with exception of first. Each time had different guy but experience was uniformly great with good massage and ample extras. Guys congregate behind glass and curtain, similar to old Hero experience in BKK, all rather guy next door to hunky types, exactly what I like. I tipped each uniformly 100 000 riels (25$ ), well deserved. Funniest was third encounter on Wednesday ( I was there Sunday to Sunday ), mamasan told me they my chosen one just started today and I’m his first customer. Which was no doubt truth as he was so excited that upon entry to the room where I laid already ready for oil massage i.e. naked he did not bother to close door. He did when I pointed there. After that all went very well, he knew how to massage, who cares about door closing skills. And was not shy at all. I developed evening routine there, after massage I had banana pancake on the corner and then through Pub Street I went to Barcode bar. There were two days of exception as at that time at least bar was not open every day and was closed I guess Mon and Wed (please confirm if you are there ) . There’s no longer any gay oriented bar on Pub Str, no harm done as street was extremely noisy so all I did every night it was just fast stroll through. Other gone venue was Barcode massage and I say it with bleeding hear as my last time there 5 years ago I got great guy from there who accompany me on trip to Prasat Bakan (most remote from all Angkor temples, called also Preah Khan Kompong Svay ) and was tasked with warning my bed almost nightly. Barcode has continuous show for good 3 hours , alternating resident dancers with resident ladyboys. Audience is mixed , I saw elderly couples , your girls alone and in company but everybody behaved, no screaming girls infesting some Pattaya and Bangkok bars. Few very handsome waiters and on my first night at departure I tipped one of them whole 5$ hoping next day he will remember me. Such sophisticated plot worked as indeed next time he greeted me as soon as I showed up and after few complements from me about his handsomeness we arranged for visit in my room after hours. It involved some drama as initially he declined, only to Line me later that he changed his mind. Sweet taste of dollar denominated tip I guess. He was one who forced me to wake up receptionist at Men’s. I was hoping for repeat during day next day but it did not work for him for some reason. There was another guy encounter earlier, on my first night at Barcode I recognized guy I saw previously on Grindr and he was one who draw my attention there with nice face and built. In flesh face was as nice but he turned out to be more diminutive than I imagined which did not stop me from glancing toward him until he noticed and showed empty chair beside him. He had drink already, we exchanged Line with promise of future contact. Future was closer than I imagined as I got message from him as soon as he left bar. Question was ‘ what hotel you are staying ? ” . Only looking stupid I knew what it means so my answer was “ Royal Crown, do you want to see my room ? “ to an answer : “ yes, tonight ? “ and that being me next question was ‘ How much?”. We met in front of hotel and I had very good time , I even asked about long time option but he declined as he was supposed to go to work in the morning. Not only good looking but also smart and good conversationalist. I don’t think he liked me that much though , not only because that declined long time but also when he saw me at bar o subsequent nights he did not make any effort to approach me which I don’t hold against him as he was obviously popular with younger patrons, he, he.1 point -
naked night in bangkok sauna
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I was at 39underground on a Tuesday last month for naked night. I'm 50, in ok shape and hairy. 99% were Asian with 95% being thin or in good shape. Even though most cup their package with their hand, there was still plenty of eye candy. So many perfect little butts. I had three thin young cuties suck me off out in the open in the hallway areas in decent lighting. I sucked off to completion one of these out on the 2nd floor garden area. I had another different young tattooed cutie in a private room, blowing each other then fucking him, and finally taking his load. Finally, I had another young, buff guy with a big ass, not fat, but big and firm. We blew each other and he took my load. I was pleasantly surprised by the result.1 point -
If opening early is the one advantage you see in Babylon, there are other saunas that open at 12PM. But Babylon opens at 10:30AM. However it also closes early, at 10:30PM, which is a disadvantage. In the many times I stayed at their barracks, after the buffet breakfast I went every day early to the sauna to work out in the gym, then had lunch at one of their restaurants that is open at noon (the main one opens at 5PM). I have been there in low and high season, and I never thought of making a precise estimation of us-vs.-Thai. Maybe because I was there all the time I didn't notice the bad days vs. good days, or I was in the spirit to remember only the good times. Of course there are always the lucky vs. unlucky days typical of any gay sauna. I would say that 56% Thai is really a good number. When it is crowded there is an increasing number of non-Thai Chinese, maybe they come in groups. They are not old, but many of them are on the heavy side (all this yummy Western food that flooded China...). On my last visit last year I sneaked into a private event they had at the pool exclusive for chubs! Many of them Chinese. They were very nice offering me free beer, but I felt looked-down by some because I didn't measure up to their size.1 point