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Although @Moses has come in for a bit of criticism in recent weeks for other issues, he does run the Siam Roads site which provides excellent guides in many cities around Asia. Presently there seem to be three guides in Bangkok and all get very good testimonials from those who have hired them. The guides have fixed daily and evening rates, can take you to all the known and several less-known sights in and around Bangkok. are not avaiable for sex but know and can take you to almost all the gay venues. Not sure of the cost and it seems to vary according to city/country. Plus naturally you pay all the guide's expenses. But I expect overall it's probably less expensive that paying the daily off fees and daily tips to a boy from a bar. Others may now more. https://siamroads.com

"Pro" for bar boys: they are a little bit cheaper than professional guides, you will pay off fee + 1500-2500 THB per day + food + gifts, you may f*ck them when you want, they will sleep in your bed. "Cons" for bar boys: their English mostly is very limited, half of them aren't Thai, so you you will pay for them in each temple and museum you want to visit, most of them have no idea about Thai history or interesting places to visit, their knowledges about city are limited to gay areas and some shopping districts, you easy may meet situation when site you visiting has day off exactly at the time of your visit. Police and touristic police may stop and check their ID and question them about their guiding license in most of historical places of Bangkok, so is better to avoid visits to most famous places like Royal Palace, Emerald Buddha, Wat Pho, Wat Arun and so on. They will be jealous if you will talk with other boys. You can't change boys in your bed every night. You never know whom you hired - he may be good boy, or criminal at past, or drug user, or thief, your safety is only your problem. At evenings they will be not very happy to visit bars of competitors. "Pro" for guides: they have professional license and a lot of knowledges and experience, their English is for sure better than English of bar boys, guides know all touristic traps and overprices places, their job is to entertain you so you never will be bored, you may ask them to show to you not only historical places, but also the theme of tour may be arts, craftsmanship, sport, nature, animals and so on. They will care about your comfort and safety. Their past is checked and guys made already hundreds tours for other tourists. "Cons" for guides: they will not sleep with you, they will never visit your room. They will cost you a little bit more more: current prices in Bangkok are 3750 THB for 14 hours for guide's time + expenses (mostly transportation). You still need to off boy to f*ck.

Day 5 (Saturday) - A tale of two Thais I had pleasure of meeting two very interesting young Thai guys - both in mid 20s. I got to know them through Grinder. They hit me up yesterday and I am only able to meet them today one in late morning and another in evening. One of them is a masseur at Olivia Massage. Shall call him O after his shop. English is very basic. He uses Google Translate when he messages me. But to be frank, during massage and sex, language does not matter. O is a cute twink. Very friendly and loves to kiss! Hardworking as well. Strong massage strokes. I had him come/cum (Lol!) to my hotel room for massage in day time so I had to pay an off fee to shop. O loved doing massage in hotel room. He took pictures and videos of city from window of room. After leaving, O sent me a message: "Let me know in advance when you want me to go your hotel. I can go before work or after work. I can also go during lunch break. You no need pay my shop." The other young Thai guy I met speaks fluent English. He even types all his messages in English. He is the epitome of the young modern educated Thai person. He has travelled to all of the major countries in Asia except China and he has even been to a number of European countries. He studied aircraft engineering and works at airport where he stays nearby. He is looking for an older boyfriend after some previous relationships. We talked about interests and personal life and I found him to be a remarkable young man. He came from a complicated family background and is currently out on his own. His name starts with L but to differentiate him, shall refer to him as L+. When I complimented him on his achievements at such a young age, he was on the verge of tears and hugged me tightly. I think not many people have given him positive affirmation in his life. I hope he finds the right guy for his boyfriend and happiness together. O and L+ are two Thai gay guys whom I will not forget and I suspect I will be keeping in touch with them for years to come. Most of the guys I got to know well during my trips to Bangkok are not Thai (and not gay!) They are mostly from Myanmar and Vietnam (due largely to their English proficiency). There are Laos and Cambodia guys I know as well but I need Google Translate when I meet them. Oh yes, report on night activities - I was at Screwboys after supper at Foodland Patpong with fellow forum member. But no.93 wasn't there. Hopefully he will turn up tomorrow.

I've tried it both ways. I've hired tour guides and found that worked very well. They can save you money, efficiently arrange your days so you get more sight seeing in a shorter period, introduce you to the bars and give you insights into the boys but very likely will not have sex with you. In Pattaya I found a massage boy from Narcissus who spoke really good English and we had good chemistry. I spent 10 days meeting him every other day (5 days total) doing sight seeing, visiting food places I would never have tried myself, quiet bars just enjoying the company as well as having massage and sex. It was his suggestion to do every other day and I used the other days to chill, have massages and sex elsewhere. It worked well for me. Personally if it were my first time in Bangkok I'd get the guide for a few days. That's me though.

Day 6 (Sunday) - I had L the massage guy visit me in my hotel room again in afternoon. It's my 3rd massage with him - one in his shop and twice in hotel room. By now, he knows me intimately and vice versa. Advantage of having a regular. After session, L was wearing his pants and looking out the window when he suddenly pointed to a building. "Casino," he said, "Now close." I then asked him whether he gambled. He said no but he knew of friends who did and they told him about that particular gambling den. I had a deck of cards and poker chips in my luggage and I took them out to play a few rounds of blackjack with L. Then he asked me,"I show you Vietnam poker" and I said sure. Vietnam poker has a points system with 3 cards. While I was trying to get the hang of it, L suddenly realised that it's time for him to go back to massage shop. "It's ok. Next time I meet you. You teach me," I said.

Just in my view it's a stupid idea, 3 days is more than long enough

I recently spent two weeks in Medellín, and it was an absolute delight. Having already explored most of the tourist attractions during my previous visit, this time I wanted to experience what it would be like to live in this city. I found a fantastic Airbnb in the Laureles neighborhood, just a stone's throw away from the Primer Parque. The unit had its own private exit leading directly to the street, providing me with the level of privacy I truly cherish. Plus, it came with a charming little backyard jacuzzi. During the first week, as I was on vacation, I had plenty of leisure time to wander around at my own pace, and I felt completely safe exploring the city. Instead of hitting the bars and clubs, I opted for a more peaceful experience and spent quality time enjoying the jacuzzi with some new acquaintances. Besides, it was very rainy the entire week. I was initially skeptical when some friends recommended webcam boys, but I stand corrected. I had the pleasure of meeting two remarkable hotties, one of whom was truly extraordinary. Surprisingly, they charged me not much more than the standard rate and seemed to enjoy spending long hours with me. They promised our encounters would be relaxed and unhurried ("sin afanes"), and they certainly delivered on that promise. I also decided to try out two escorts from Mileroticos, and I can wholeheartedly recommend them. I'll provide more detailed reports in the future, but for now, here are the links to their ads: https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts-gay/nuevo-chico-muy-sexi-nalgon-en-tu-ciudad/21215382/ https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts-gay/versatil-arrecho-complaciente-cuelo-intenso/24258607/ You can also check the "Perfiles con el mismo teléfono" button to find their other listings. Both experiences were fantastic, but I connected particularly well with the second one. After the first week of fucksgiving festivities, I had a week of teleworking, and I continued to meet with him. Grindr and Scruff proved to be very effective platforms for connecting with attractive individuals in my vicinity. Three of my encounters were within a 500-meter radius, while two were within a 2-kilometer radius. I made sure to inquire about safety from the people I met, and they all assured me that the city had improved in terms of security. The only area they strongly advised me to avoid at night was Centro, and I heeded their warning without question. I couldn't help but notice the ongoing gentrification in the Laureles neighborhood compared to my visit two years ago. There are now more restaurants, bars, and foreigners mingling about, and as a result, rental and Airbnb prices have risen. I'm seriously considering renting in a more popular neighborhood on my next trip, one of those hoods gringos are scared of. This was my first time flying with Copa Airlines, and I must thank my friends for the recommendation. The incoming flights were perfectly punctual, and I had almost no wait during the layover in Panama City. To top it off, my luggage was already waiting for me after I cleared immigration. I'm currently writing this report while waiting for my Uber to take me to the airport for my journey back home. If I encounter any inconveniences, I'll be sure to provide an update in this thread.

As far as the raids being to find drugs, given the timing just a couple of days after the anti-gay legislation was passed, that has to be the joke of the week. Also @Moses information again is incorrect. It was more than one bar/venue in Moscow. One was the dance club Malaya Yakimanka Ulitsa with more than 300 attending. But the raids were on several - all as reported by The Moscow Times and in other Russian media. One was a club near Avtozavodskaya metro station and another a men's strip club near the Polyanka metro station. But then of course @Moses never provides sources - except for once when the two he posted were in Russian and Japanese and on translation were found to have nothing to do with the subject of his post! As for St. Petersburg, his information is also 100% misleading. The club in St. Petersburg was the long established Central Station which was not actually raised but forced to shut down on Friday after its landlord evicted the management "over the Supreme Court's ban on the LGBT community." Also referring to @Moses second paragraph, I have listened to the exact words Putin said two weeks ago. It is 100% clear he was talking exclusively about western society, and he was laughing when he said it! His words had absolutely nothing to do with Russia and Russian society. So @Moses is yet again trying to pull the wool over our eyes. https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/12/02/moscow-police-raid-gay-clubs-after-extremist-ban-on-lgbt-community-a83297

Nice try, Moses, but do you realize just how totally fantastical that sounds. 😂

Loy Krathong was a pleasant occasion on Jomtien Beach last week, with its lanterns, krathongs and children playing in the sea. A family occasion, gentle and very Thai. That evening lingers in my memory as London freezes on my arrival back home. Songkran, on the other hand....for me, once bitten (in 1999) twice shy. I agree with TMax.

There was a thread or two on this some months ago after the Thai Elite people announced major changes to the programme. The original programme had several membership levels, the cheapest of which was a 5-year card for 500,000 Baht. Near the start of covid when strict quarantine requirements were introduced, there was a rumour that you could return to Thailand more easily with an Elite card. Not sure how true that was but it resulted in a jump in membership applications. So the price was quickly raised to 600,000! One of the benefits of the original card was that members could extend by 15 years for payment of another 500,000. So 1 million for 20 years - effectively 50,000 per year. But unlike retirement visas this was all cash out and non refundable. For the original memberships, there were several perks. Frequent travellers got up to 24 free airport limousine trips annually to and from the airport, concierge service at the airports and access to airport lounges. Great for some; lousy for most. For whatever reason - perhaps partly a result of Immigration having upped those opting for annual remittances to 800,000, more rich Russians and Chinese wanting long term visas, etc. - more retirees also started looking seriously at the card, even though it was never intended as a retirement visa-type option. It was one of Thaksin's programmes in the early 2000s to lure the rich to vacation regularly in Thailand! It had never taken off and the programme lost tons of cash. Around 2015 there were rumours the programme would be cancelled. But demand suddenly picked up in a big way. As a result, at the end of July all card holders were given three weeks notice of major changes to the programme. It was being completely revamped but no-one at Thai Elite was prepared to say what this meant in cash terms. All that was known was that the option to renew for 15 years was being withdrawn. The following Monday, I understand, there was a near riot at the Elite office on Sathorn with dozens of foreigners screaming at staff! It was certainly realised that prices would be going up and not unnaturally those already in the programme voiced their view that the new prices and more expensive perks should only apply to new and not existing members. End result, two things. Many existing members did immediately pay for the extra 15 years even though their original membership might still have had 3 or 4 years to run. Then on the deadline day - seriously, the very last day for renewing at the old levels - Thai Elite did a total about turn. Existing members were advised by email all their benefits of the original cards would remain for their duration. No need to renew until three months prior to expiry. In other words, a typical Thai screw-up! The new Thai Elite programme is certainly much more expensive and vastly less attractive for retirement purposes to all other than those with pots of cash. The cost of a new basic 5-year card has risen to 900,000. A 10-year card is 1.5 million, A 15-year card is 2.5 million and 20 years is 5 million (although allegedly the 20 year programme is limited to 100 per year and is only by invitation - whatever that really means! It does provide the member with 1 free domestic flight per year, 1 night hotel stay per year - and various other benefits that anyone who can pay that amount of cash would neither want nor need!). But to jerk up the cost from 1 million to 5 million for 20 years is a total rip-off in my view. It's now way too late to enrol in the original scheme. So I suggest it is not something potential retirees will ever want to consider -

I heard that tonight Bar Queen, Fama, and Hot House are the safest places to spend a night free of assholes.

After fellow forum member left at 11 plus, I decided to go to Dreamboys. Show was midway. Seats all taken but mamasan managed to squeeze me in left corner. There were both male and female customers. I was seated diagonally across the hall facing a certain Hotmale Beer Bar waiter with Japanese lady customer in private sofa booth. I also saw many guys who were at Circus and Balcony in Soi 4 earlier in evening. Show was same as when I watched in June. Mix of different types of performances for everyone from the casual curious tourist who just wandered in to the seasoned visitor. Ladyboy diva singing, energetic dancers, slapstick masked face comedy, macho man in heels dancing and the usual erotic dancing with cocks exposed - this had everything for everyone! The entire show lasted till 1am with 10-minute intermission every half hour where the guys went on stage for prospective customers to off. Half the audience left at midnight after big cock show. After 10-minute intermission with guys on stage, the show continued. Coyote dancing at 12.30am saw an appreciative customer giving 100 baht tips to the 9 guys who danced. They formed a line to collect their tips with one guy even kneeling and wai-ing! At 1am, the music stopped and show was over. I headed to Screwboys to off the guy I saw last night (no.93). Unfortunately he had been taken. So I went back to hotel alone on day 4.

Back to last night. It was a fellow forum member's last night in Bangkok. I have known him since Soi Twilight when he used to sit at Maxis. During the past few nights, I have been hanging out with him at Hotmale Beer Bar downstairs. We also met other fellow forum members for dinner and drinks. When it was finally time to leave, there were hugs and goodbyes for him from the waiters. "Take care and see you next year!"

Antibiotics don’t generally work for upper respiratory infections, since they are mainly caused by viruses.

As retirement approaches how many of us I wonder have considered a cruise or two to some exotic part of the world? The more so nowadays given that there are several all-gay cruises to pick from - if that idea floats your boat, as it were. Quite a few, I expect, if only the prices were not quite so exorbitant. Some years ago friends of mine based in New York with little experience of Europe saved up for a one-week gay cruise from Barcelona to somewhere else in the Mediterranean and loved it. Others never got the chance to get near their ship. Sadly the Germans who had booked a package tour from their home city to join a cruise due to start from New York all died when their chartered Concorde aircraft crashed after they had transferred on to it in Paris in July 2000. Death is one dreadful if extremely remote possibility in denying you the chance to make your cruise. Recent media reports tell of another less final but almost equally awful cruise experience. Last year a company named Life at Sea advertised a three-year round the world cruise on board a smallish-sized ship limited to around 1,000 passengers. According to National Public Radio, the cheapest inside berth for a single passenger was US$196,000 this to include almost everything on the cruise. Move up to the 7th deck with a balcony and The Guardian reported it would set you back $562,000. Unlke most long cruises, this one would not pick up and let off passengers en route for shorter cruises. You had to sign up for the full three years. One American lady started out thinking this had to be a scam. But she had her attorney go through all the paperwork and the background of the company. She was more than satisfied. Another American, a former flight attendant from Florida, also loved the idea of three years around the world and also paid her 30% deposit. The balance became due in monthly payments starting one month prior to sailing. She then got rid of her house, put most of her belongings into long-term storage and prepared to set out for the start of her dream of a lifetime. The two accounts I have quoted have different start ports - one Miami, the other Istanbul - but in the light of what happened that's rather immaterial. The flight attendant sent her four small cases in advance to Miami. Days later the cruise company informed her the cruise had been rescheduled to start in The Bahamas. And just a few days after that the information came that the cruise was cancelled in its entirety! Some passengers had already flown to Istanbul ready to pick up the ship there. The company has promised to refund all deposits and the additional expenses of getting to the departure point/s. And the first lady claims some of the money has already been returned. But how do you suddenly reclaim three years of your life that you had assumed would be seeing the world on a semi-luxury liner? It seems the company, which is quite well established, had intended to purchase a 20-year old vessel named AIDA aura in late September before making cosmetic changes prior to the scheduled departure under a new name the MV Lara. Sometihng clearly happened in the negotiations for the ship was eventually sold to another company. Life at Sea had originally planned to refit one of its own vessels but opted instead to purchase the larger one. Ah! The best laid plans! Even so, despite all the hand-wringing, breast-beating, the angst, the resignations etc., Life at Sea has not given up. It is already accepting bookings for next year's 3-year cruise. Whether that will be on a luxury liner or a small dinghy remains to be seen. Oddlly, whereas I would have been near incandescent with rage, the former flight attendant has accepted everything remarkably calmly. She still has plans to travel, although on shorter trips. "It won't be the same as the round the world trip," she says, "but it will be my own adventure." Good luck, Madam! https://www.lifeatseacruises.com https://www.npr.org/2023/11/29/1215569569/life-at-sea-3-year-cruise-around-the-world-called-off#:~:text=This 3-year cruise around,leaving passengers in the lurch&text=via Getty Images-,When the Life at Sea cruise line failed to purchase,in November began to unravel.&text=They were promised the world. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/dec/01/half-million-dollars-three-year-cruise-ship-possessions-liberating

Thanks for the offer Moses but I don't want a refund. I was simply pointing out that things don't always go as planned even with a licensed guide.

Considering the honesty of George Santos, the intelligence of Lauren Boebert, the empathy of Marjorie T. Green, the moral standards of Matt Gaetz, the integrity of Kari Lake, the spine of Kevin McCarthy, and the personality of Trump, how would your nephews square any decision to vote Blue? Or are they unaware of these modern GOP traits? 😉

Yeah, he spend 2 or 3 years in Emirates as a waiter in high class Thai restaurant. But, to be honest, you surprised me. Because before Emirates he for sure had official license and had about 5-6 years of experience in guiding service. If you will give me your email (in private messages) from which you booked his service, Siamroads will return your payment to you

No, it was Esso. It was in October 2018. I recall him telling me he had just returned to Thailand from abroad so maybe (at that time) he wasn't up to speed to on the Grand Palace entry requirements ..

You should make an open call and ask fellow forum members here! Many of us will be happy to take you around (if we happen to be in Bangkok during your visit!)

LOL. I really do not care about that detail. But I do THANK YOU, you were one of the friends who recommended them to me. I did not yet try their first class, the on board food and snacks service seems to be below United's or American's in Economy, but I do not care about that either. I care about punctuality and not losing my luggage. They were amazing. I was concerned in my way to there, because my layover in Panamá was only one hour. I had even packed a few things in my backpack to survive for 24 hours without my bag. However, when I walked out of immigration my beautiful big bag was waiting me with her wheels ready to roll. I also find more convenient having their hub in Ciudad de Panamá. The way time gets segmented flying to further stop (instead of Florida or Texas like the US airlines flying to SA) is more comfortable for me, leaving from DC.

I've been flying them for a LONG time....young, good looking flight attendants as well.

Sorry, I can't take your opinion as expert and trustworthy since you don't have 15 years of experience in this business.

@Moses thanks for your inputs. will check the siamroads. i’ll let you know if ever i have questions. thank you 🙏

And unless you’ve equipped them with a chastity belt, there’s no way you can ever know if they accept an offer from a client. Never say never when sex and money are in play.😋

"may" means exactly that

As original texts went through multiple translations into Greek and Latin, each one was an opportunity for translator to interpret it to their satisfaction. Consequently nothing should be taken literally today, regardless of what version of “bible’ you’re reading (and there are many).

I did eventually enrol in the 5-year membership. The cost was in a small way reduced by the perks since I travelled a great deal (until covid, that is). But when notice of the change was provicded at the end of July, I panicked. I could not easily get 500,000 to extend my membership through for the extra 15 years and ended up borrowing cash from a relative. I did go down to the Elite office where I insisted i see the membership manager. I gave her an earful about how the new regulations should only apply to new members. Sheepishly she agreed but said she could do nothing about it! So I prepared the papers for the 15-year extension, but then never had to submit them as my original benefits continue for another 18 months. Now that i am travelling quite a lot again and my Asian flights are all in economy class, I enjoy the freebies - the airport transfers, priority airport pass, lounge access, getting my free cart rides from the gates, 90-day reporting (rarely required now) just by dropping off my passport on Sathorn etc. - even though I know I could still get all that and would save lots without the Elite card. I guess one concern I do have is that I have only a tiny pension and for retirement now would basically have to lock away 800,000. At least that is the present amount. With rumours having been flying around for months, are the retirement visas limits also in line for a change? Absolutely no idea, but i do not want to take that chance. Whether I renew the Elite membership will depend on whether I stay in Thailand or not. Increasingly I am starting to consider other options.

I've only done this once, several years ago and it was one of the bar boys. The only reason I hired him for around 3 days (if memory serves me right) was because I've hired him a few times before for one-offs, and we were quite compatible during those sessions. Mind you, he was not a professional tour guide or anything, so for me it was more of having company to visit some of the touristic sites. The rate I paid back then consisted of the bar's off fees + his tips for 3 nights. If you plan to go down this route, both of those rates would depend on which bar you're taking the boy from.

Yeah, this oral whore for Dominican is ready to throat him on my next visit to Santo Domingo.

Christianity was not always anti-gay. The late Yale Professor John Boswell noted that anti-gay interpretations started around the 12th Century: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Boswell "...Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality (1980) is a work which, according to George Chauncey et al. (1989), "offered a revolutionary interpretation of the Western tradition, arguing that the Roman Catholic Church had not condemned gay people throughout its history, but rather, at least until the twelfth century, had alternately evinced no special concern about homosexuality or actually celebrated love between men."..." Besides, the religion is called Christianity, not Paulism. No one has ever claimed that Jesus said anything against homosexuality. Quite the contrary, Jesus is purported to have freed Christians from having to follow the dictums of the book of Leviticus. Those who froth anti-gay vitriol, probably often gay themselves, are simply engaging in the time-honored tradition of scapegoating to distract from real problems. Yes, Paul's words have probably been mistranslated. At best they're ambiguous. That being said, those who follow the Christian faith should be following the teachings of Jesus.

You know what they say, you secretly love what you say you hate. You keep trash talking Brazil but you keep going.

Not always true. Often GPs are quite talented to compensate for a client's lack of conversational skills.

Well, if you were sitting or standing in Hoti Male beer bar last night, I think you’d be hard pressed to say anything but a resounding “no”. The crowd—staff included—were a bit raucous, waiters were getting offed, customers were getting drunk, someone was celebrating a birthday,. The adjacent show bars were doing a respectable business and the atmosphere was festive. I can only speak of Bangkok, but the older crowd (of which I am one) doesn’t seem to have any problem ponying up the 2K off fees and booking massages at the two dozen plus shops in the area.

My Russian is terrible. However, at least I understand that, and use assistance when I need to. It's far better than overestimating my abilities and appearing like a jackass. Мой русский ужасен. Однако, по крайней мере, я это понимаю и прибегаю к помощи, когда это необходимо. Это гораздо лучше, чем переоценивать свои способности и выглядеть придурком.

Instead of continuing about the rest of my night (at Dreamboys), I want to share this video of a group of Brits taking over Hotmale Beer Bar downstairs for their Christmas party on a Saturday afternoon. They were originally at Shenanigans but they moved to Hotmale Beer Bar downstairs presumably because the beer is cheaper. And obviously they requested the music to be changed to Christmas playlist! 20231202_132043.mp4

Maybe I’ll do this. I was there two weeks ago and had to go back everday to the wound center. I got a painted tattoo on the beach and had an allergic reaction to it. Having a rough time since I’ve been here.

It was a crazy Saturday night at Hotmale Beer Bar downstairs because two regular lady customers visited. One Japanese lady customer was locked in embrace and kisses with a particular waiter at the sofa. They then adjourned to Dreamboys in private sofa seat with bottle service to enjoy their show. Yours Truly happened to go to Dreamboys and sit directly opposite them. The particular waiter looked half drunk by the time they left after midnight. The rest of waiters at Hotmale Beer Bar downstairs became half drunk due to a Thai lady customer who showered them with whisky shots. She's a regular and when she comes, most of the staff crowd around her. They even change their music from English songs to Thai just for her and they sing, dance and drink throughout. She ordered shot glasses to be brought out and she personally poured bottles of Jagermeister into each shot glass full to the brim and then gave them to the waiters to drink. Most got 2 to 3 shots while her favourites got more than 5 shots. I presume she tips them when she leaves. I wasn't around to see the tipping but I did find out that her total bill for drinks once hit 20k baht in one night!

Even had he known about the Plan which we now know his Defence Forces were well aware of in detail a year in advance, it would no doubt have been difficult for him to do much about it. His main goal throughout his Prime Ministership has very obviously been the prevention of the creation of a Palestinian state. He is the one who insisted on letting Hamas have its own way in Gaza deliberately to reduce the authority of the Palestinian Authority. Once the present hostilities are over, whatever the result, he will no doubt be desperate to cling on to power. Hopefully Israeli citizens will call him to account and his days in government will be numbered.

Thanks for the clarification. My point still stands, dear.

I'm writing this in the afterglow of a 90 minute oil massage at The Paradise Spa in Pattaya. This place goes to number 1 in my rankings, a much needed boost after a couple of disappointing experiences over the last couple of days of which I will share in another post. Not at all cheap, you get what you pay for imho. The facilities are top notch, the best I've encountered in Pattaya.. The rooms are clean with en suite shower (but not a toilet), mirror, stool etc and massage bed. Not the sort with the head hole which I prefer, but comfortable enough with the provided cushion and wide. And the masseur was accomplished and delivered an excellent massage, therapeutic, sensual and erotic in turn keeping me on the edge for almost the entire time. I would almost be afraid of returning again in case it didn't live up the today's experience! Highly recommended

At 10pm, I left the merry folks of Hotmale Beer Bar downstairs to enter Sol Bar to watch the show. Mamasan led me to a seat on right side at second last row. The big pillar in the middle prevented a clear view of the stage but at least it had full mirror on it which allowed the back view of the guys to be reflected when the guys stood in front of the pillar as part of their rotation. P, whom I got to know from last night, was waiting for me. He was in white singlet and white shorts but no number. About 15 other guys were on stage and they had numbers embroidered on their singlets and shorts. I asked him why he had no number and he said something but I couldn't catch the explanation. No matter. I told him I wanted to watch the show. I definitely was taking him off so he could change to his own clothes. He took his leave and I surveyed the bar. There were low round sofa type of seats ideal for groups right below the stage. Only about 10 customers including one Asian customer to my left seated with former Hotmale twink who had changed out of his waiter uniform. Asian customer (looks Taiwanese or HK) was taking him off but like me, wanted to watch the show. The bar started filling up quickly. Two separate groups of Thai customers came in and ordered bottle service. Each group called down some guys down from stage to drink with them for the night. Just before the show started at 10.22pm, (yes, I checked my watch), a group of 4 farang women tourists came in. They took front row sofas below stage on the right side. Midway through the show, one of the Thai groups would move to front row sofas below stage on the left side. Sol Bar has adopted the best practices of the other bars. Their show started in a similar fashion to Jupiter where the guys took turns to walk individually and present themselves to audience. Unlike Jupiter, they didn't have the cold lifeless model stare. The guys of Sol Bar were free to smile at audience. Most removed their singlets to showcase their upper bodies. Some seemed awkward with runway walk. They need more model training. Also unlike Jupiter, the numbers on their shorts were visible for all to see. Very accessible for any customer who wants to off a guy. Regarding the show, there's only 2 ladyboy singing - the opening act (backed up by 2 dancers) and the fifth performance (a solo item). Total 8 performances and I don't count big cock show. The other performances are all performed by the Sol Bar guys themselves - mixture of dance numbers and slow erotic dancing. But overall what stood out was the last performance - a SM act between a master and a slave. The slave was stripped, pulled on a leash, thrown onto the floor, "whipped" and had candle wax poured on his body. Audience members were invited to pour wax - one lady from the all-girl farang tourists in the front row and the Asian customer sitting with ex-Hotmale guy. I suspect the latter arranged for him to go up on stage. Customer seemed sheepish but I could tell he enjoyed it! The twist at the end of the act was that the slave turned the tables on the master! I have watched similar shows at Freshboys and Tawan but this particular performance made it into an unforgettable viewing experience with a storyline. Kudos for best SM show in Bangkok, Sol Bar! Maybe Sol Bar should rename itself as Sol SM Bar!

I cannot imagine anyone in Israel wanted this massacre to happen. And I am saying that as someone who is no fan of Netanyahu

Intelligence by hindsight is always 20/20. Intelligence is a bunch of data and educated guesses as to what it means. It's really easy to pull a list of pieces of intelligence that point to something that happened after the event but bloody hard to before the event.

Your comment says something much more significant about YOU. Being racist isn't a good look for anyone, but maybe you really like that look for yourself. You definitely try hard enough. 😵‍💫

I just told a few friends in Brasil your offer, they remarked the only time they quote such high rates, is when they REALLY don't want to go with someone. But if the customer is wiling to pay THAT much in Brasil, what the fuck, why not. I wouldn't want to go car shopping with you, lol