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I was in Bangkok for nine days in June 2023 and used Grindr to hook up with guys, mostly freelance massage / money boys. I used my Line QR code as my display pic on Grindr and have had many guys add me to their Line accounts and make contact through Line since then. I also use the Explore function on Grindr and send messages to guys in Bangkok (in Thai if their profile or bio is in Thai) who I might like to meet and tell them my next arrival date, area I'm staying and what I am looking for, again with my Line ID or QR code (but I don't make any references to money as that will get me banned). I follow the X / Twitter pages of massage shops and massage boy review pages and comment in Thai on some of the posts if I like the look of the guy. I put my Line ID in my X / Twitter profile too. I used Google Translate to begin with but then learned how to read and write most Thai script and now I can recognise the Thai words and phrases that I need to get me to massage / money boys on Grindr or X / Twitter fairly quickly - it definitely helps!... I started off with 16 Line contacts in June and now I have 134 contacts, around 50 keep in regular contact asking when I am coming back to Bangkok. Massage / money boys often use the words "รับงาน" (accepting work) on Grindr but usually broken up in various ways to try to get past the ban on commercial use. I also search X / Twitter (on Google) for the same words "รับงาน" together with "Twitter Bangkok" or "กรุงเทพฯ" (Bangkok) and find some that way. I joined a Line group I was invited to by a MB I met in June and scored a lot of contacts from that before it closed. A guy who hooks up with and takes some really hot video with some BKK massage boys is on Twitter / X at @Gom81840463 or @nubfan44_ or @ninezew or @Tk07659237. Quite a few of the guys in his videos I recognise from the Twitter pages of massage shops and he sometimes adds a link to the shop the guy is from in his post. A few of the guys have added me on Line and I am happy to have them come to my hotel when I am in BKK rather than go to their shop. Pretty much all of the guys I am in contact with ask for 1500 to 2500 baht for one to two hours for a hotel hook up that includes their travel costs. I'm headed back to BKK next month for two weeks, and I am drooling at the thought of those delicious Thai cocks that I am mostly starved of in Sydney!

Cont... Jupiter : I was also there twice, once on a weekday and once on a weekend. 1st drink was at THB 500. I didn't off anyone here as well. The models were all gorgeous that I don't think there's any single one that I wouldn't want to off 😅. Possibly the most number of models out of all the bars I managed to check out. On both days, there were a lot of patrons here (compared to other bars). Particularly on the weekend, it was so full that the waiters were struggling to find places to sit the incoming patrons. The shows were great, a mix of sexy shows and drag performances. I would echo the observations of other members on the general lack of smile or eye contact by models (I was seated facing the centre of the runway such that the models, when doing their rounds, would be seeing me face to face at a point but not a single one smiled). All in all, I had a good time there admiring the models and enjoying the shows. One thing I would note is that, perhaps a little different from what I've read previously, there were not that many female patrons on the weekday when I was there (I'd say less than 10, in a packed bar). Hotmale : I was only here once on a weekday, close to midnight. It was after their show. There were probably less than 15 models there, and only a few other patrons. Drink prices were the same as others and I didn't off anyone here. The models were a mix of the generally fit/athletic type and twinks, and probably the most enthusiastic out of all the bars I went to. They would try to win your attention as much as they could while on stage. Dreamboy : I also went here twice, once on a weekday and once on a weekend. Drinks were a little more expensive at THB 550 on both days. There was a variety of models available for off, ranging from twinks to jocks to muscle guys. I find the shows here to be the most interesting out of all (with the pyro act and flying angels etc.). Some of the models on stage will try to make eye contact and flash a smile, but others seemed rather disinterested. At least none were on their phone while on stage. There were quite a few I would love to off next time. Moonlight : I went here twice as well. The drinks were priced at THB 500. I did off a boy from here (his drink + off fee = THB 900, if I'm not mistaken). The captain was very informative about the boys (who tops, btms etc.), told me about the minimum tip expected for an off (THB 2,500) and even went to pull out additional photos of the boys from his phone. The boys are generally of the same type as Jupiter. The guy I offed told me he remembered seeing me the previous day I was there (and he was right on when that was) so maybe the boys do take note of who sits in the audience? I noticed one particular boy who did give a lot of eye contact and smiles on and off stage, but I didn't off him this round (I went with the captain's recommendation). The shows were alright but maybe because I've seen videos of their models before that it wasn't that exciting in person. My ST experience with the boy was also good, and I would definitely off him again. It helped that I clarified what I was expecting to do with him at the bar, to which he confirmed to be OK with him. He is friendly and spoke fairly decent English. Massage I only managed to check out one massage centre, Arena. The boys were all muscular guys that I could've easily gone with any of them. I chose one fair skinned Thai from the north and took the 1 hour VIP room oil milk massage (around THB 900 - big room and comes with tea/coffee. But for some reason, the shower room smelled a little off that even my guy commented on it). I was told that the minimum tip was THB 1000. His massage was a little too light for my liking (had to nudge him to increase the pressure) but it wasn't really bad (since I just wanted a relaxing massage anyway). The afters were alright, with some foreplay before he finished me off. He offered to finish as well for some extra tip (as it was pretty early in the afternoon) but I declined. I did still tip him more than the minimum since I enjoyed his company and conversation (even with limitations in the language department). Those were some of my observations on the gogo bars and massage centre that I went to. I am already looking forward to my 2024 trips there, as there were a lot of guys from the bars I would love to off.

Hi all, I've been reading (and benefiting) a lot from the reports made by members here, so I thought I'd make a little contribution by sharing my own report from a recent short trip to Bangkok. I'm not much of a storyteller, so I thought I'd just share my general observation as opposed to going on a day-to-day format. For some context, I'm a Southeast Asian guy and my trip to Bangkok lasted only for short few days. It's my first trip to Bangkok since the pandemic, so I was just checking out what's changed since I was last there. Bars I was able to check out Tawan, Moonlight, Jupiter, Hotmale and Dreamboys during this short trip. Here are some of my observations: Tawan: I was here twice, once each on a weekday and a weekend. Drinks for both nights were THB500 (didn't off anyone, so I didn't ask about the off fee). The new location was just too small for my liking, especially when compared to the other bars. It didn't help when the captain tried to squeeze patrons together (I guess I can understand why) which limits the possibility of me having a boy over to chat, seeing how others could clearly here my possibly not-so-decent conversations with the boy 🤣. There were just one or two bodybuilders during the weekday (with a few more on the weekends) while the others (there were possibly around 10-15 guys on the weekday and a few more on the weekend) were more bear-ish, twunk-ish or twinks. The show still had the same format as before, with the bdsm routine coupled with a few dance/drag show. I didn't stay till the end of the show though. I noticed that the guys were a little more pre-occupied with their phones than trying to get the attention of new patrons (quite different from how I recall the guys there used to be). The only times I've seen them smile or greet patrons were when they seemed to know the patrons (presumably from previous experience)...or maybe I just have a resting bitch face that pushed them away. 😅 But I would have still offed a few of the guys there, hopefully in another trip. To be continued...

I think the truth is much simpler: Russia is a horrible neighbor!

You’re just pissed because you weren’t among them.

Worth a visit every time. There was a problem for a few years prior to covid but oinly because there were so many tour buses packed with Chinese from the mainland seemingly arriving almost every minute. Compared to a decade or more earlier, seeing some of the most popular exhibits - like the exquisite tiny white and green jade cabbage with the two tiny insects on it (as on the cover of the Museum's catalogue) - meant waiting or just barging to the front. Now it is far easier.

Hello Everyone I'm devastated to have just returned home from a trip to BKK. I hadn't been since 2019 and definitely made up for lost time. It was sad to see Soi Twilight gone since I was last there, but also exciting to see new (and old) bars sprouting up across the street. I don't do massage places, so this is just some notes on the bars I visited Dreamboys Dreamboys (original) was the first bar I ever visited in BKK, and we've made a tradition of always visiting here on our first night. I always remember this place more for its crazy shows - like where the big inflatable cock squirted water over everyone. That seems gone now sadly. New venue is a good size. Boys are of mixed type. I'm concious from other threads that the owner fired non-Thai boys. I met one Viet working in Fresh Boys who said he had been let go from Dreamboys recently, but didn't elaborate, so this might be related. Jupiter Probably the bar that excites me the most and frustates me the most in all of Bangkok. Most of the guys here are undoubtely gorgeous - straight looking, athletic, confident types - some very good looking. This bar has a slightly cooler atmosphere to it. Some members complain about perhaps the boys being too... modelly. I get that. But they work for me. I have to say that their shows are the sexiest. I find most bars don't use best looking boys for the shows (maybe the best looking boys are not the best performers) but in Jupiter, the guys performing are great. The guys are all shirtless and will do 3 or 4 parades around the bar - sometimes in pants, and sometimes in jeans. Always seemed to be busy. We visited 3 times - even early in the week at 10, and could barely get a seat! But I find this place frustrating because the best looking guys almost always seemed to be taken quickly (or reserved) by high-rollers, VIPs, or rowdy tables of young women. Only on the last night, did one of the mamasans show any interest in asking us if we we wanted anything. He took me "shopping" backstage to find boy I liked. Worked out in the end... On a side note, a couple of guys I was interested were performers, but did not wear numbers on their jeans on the final "walk" of the night. Could not tell if they were simply non-offable performers, or perhaps if they were already taken. Does anyone know why they walk without numbers? On a second side note - some v cute, young-looking waiters - with numbers. Strange mix. I would imagine that the people coming to see the guys at Jupiter, would not be interested in this type. Moonlight I like the atmosphere in this bar. Even on a late weekday night, the place was busy with all kinds of customers, and everyone excited to see the performers. I have to admit, I had grown tired of seeing all the usual "superstars" in pics and videos online. But they still put on a great show. And seeing Babe perform again in person - he is beautiful. That smile! The selection of boys is good looking - feel like they have a similar vibe to Jupiter - the kind of guys young female tourists want to drink with. Most wore jeans & t-shirts. Tawan Only visited here once. Only ever visit here once on any trip. I take a notion to see these big guys out of curiosity, but ultimately bodybuilders are not my type, and the show is too rough for me - it had whipping, cigarettes, wax etc. As some members have pointed out, I did see one twink here - but he seemed to be the bottom for the muscle boys. He got carrieed around the room, table to table, for tips, while being f*cked. Fresh Boys Really liked the selction of guys here. Almost totally twinks (some twunks). All shirtless. They did a big cock show where they whack their dicks against a metal pole. Ouch. Hot Male Only visited here once, briefly, after midnight. The guys were attractive and nice bodies. I didn't see much of interest for myself, but I don't want to say its indicative of the bar, given how late I visited. Screw Boy First revalation of the trip. I don't know why I didn't visit here on previous trips. I sometimes got a sense from this forum that this bar was seedy or low class or something, so I was never really inclined to go. We ended up here somewhat accidentally when, after leaving a last minute, post-midnight trip to Fresh Boys, empty-handed, a hawker grabbed us surreptitiously on the staircase. "Show at 1!" So we went in. Really liked this place. I was delighted, not just to find a bar that opened later than the others on this street (they do shows at 1 am), but it had lots of really cute young guys, a fun atmostphere (opposite of cool atmosphere of Jupiter), 2 fun, friendly mamasans, good music and also a young male performer who looked like he could be an idol or something (later discovered he is a male performer on the Ladyboys of Bangkok tour). The guys all wore matching white baseketball outfits. Visited here 3 times. Banana Bar Second revalation of the trip. I was not going to go to this bar because there was nothing written about it in the forums that made it particularly stand out to me. But I was left alone by my friend one night of the trip because of a business meeting. After a drink alone at Connections Bar on Soi 4, I decided to wander in and had a great night. Beautiful ladyboys and performers, who had toured the UK as part of "The Ladyboys of Bangkok". Main performer very handsome. Waiters were friendly. And also I was startled to meet the mamasan here who used to work in X-Boys. I spoke to her about some of the changes since I had last been here. Of course a lot of money was spent. Amateur. Went back second night, but attention was on a VIP table. Mamasan told us same customer had spent 100k tips on a previous night. Wow. Had the same big cock pole whacking show as Fresh Boys. G's Third revelation of the trip. Sorry, I know this isn't about a bar - but I had never been to G's restaurant before on Soi 4. My friend and I went one night and got German/Thai fusion dishes which were delicious. Fully intended to go here again, but didn't due to other commitments, but this will definitely be a stop for dinner on the next trip. Recommended! Did not get to visit Sol or New Twilight unfortunately. Frustations with "Line" - had line contact for one of the Moonlight stars but when I logged into a very old account, it wouldn't let me add new contacts. So I tried to sign out and back in again, but said my account was blocked for 58 days. End of that adventure. Very sad and exhausted to be home now. But hope you enjoy my notes.

I just phoned a Taipei friend who in his first relationship (with a fellow Taiwanese) was as a bottom. Now in his marriage (also to a Taiwanese) he is the top - and enjoys it! His view is that there are probably an equal number of each. But he added that the ones more attracted to foreigners may well be more bottom than top. As anyone who goes to gay bars, saunas etc., it's clear that many Taiwanese do not wish to mix and have sex with a foreigner. Could these be mostly tops? My guess is as good as anyone's.

I'm afraid he won't understand this. A sense of humor is not very common among fanboys of Russia! 😇

The only one thing what is not published here: nationalities of refuges Syrians, Iranians, Afghani, Somalians and citizens of other countries in Africa. It is officially stated in press-release of Finish border guard service https://raja.fi/en/-/more-asylum-seekers-than-usual-have-arrived-at-the-border-of-southeast-finland-without-required-travel-documents Yesterday Finland send army to border and already used tear gas against refugees. Russian border guards do not intervene into this problem since refugees are legally arrived to Russia and legally leaving it. Sometimes traffic is up to 200 persons per day. Also it became problem for citizens of Finland who has relatives in Russia - they held meeting today in Helsinki, because they lost possibility to visit their relatives in Russia.

1. Why do you think it is "mostly muslim" area? Not my experience nor statistically correct. 2. Even if it was a " mostly muslim" area that wouldn't necessarily make it less gay tolerant. I remember visiting a gay showbar on Phi Phi. Now that is a mostly muslim place. Just need to accept that not everywhere in Thailand is Pattaya, thankfully. Otherwise as everywhere in the world the provinces are more conservative than the capital. Has nothing to do with religion.

I think you can still improve your ratio offs/bar visits lol, leading members here have a ratio near 2

near Emporium and Emquartier and Benchasiri Park

Haha yeah, I did enjoy myself and not just from the bar visits (mind you I was bar hopping almost every night lol). I managed to do a lot of the non-bar stuff too (e.g. visiting Khaosan Road, Asiatique, exploring the cafes around Silom and Sukhumvit, shopping etc.). In hindsight, this would've probably been the better way but I guess seeing the hot guys after all this time kinda throws logic out of the window for a bit lol. But I do remember him, and would hope to off him on my next visit (if he still shows the same interest). Thanks @vinapu. The one thing I experienced quite differently perhaps from what you reported (and also my previous experience there) was the reaction of the boys in Tawan. For some reason, I felt a little unwelcomed by the guys there (or maybe I was just overthinking it). I would still visit again on my next trip to see how it'll go.

certainly you can do better Moses and find funniest pics of him

Glad that you enjoyed Screwboys and Banana Bar! These are the most under rated bars in my opinion. Not as classy and polished as Jupiter, Moonlight and Dreamboys but they have their charms.

Hero and other massage places would certainly have been a major attraction for guys from other parts of Asia. Many Singaporeans and Malaysians are relatively easy to spot (in terms of conversation) because of the very particular manner of speech and the very common use of some SInglish words. I was only at Hero once because my favourite massage spa ever since the week-end it opened (when I just happened to be staying with friends on Suk 15) was Albury quite nearby. I went frequently until it moved to its location on that street just beyond Emporium and down nearer the Rama 4 end. But I almost always booked my masseur in advance and so rarely mingled with other customers. So I could not offer any conclusion about nationalities. My guess is that of the comments in the extensive Travel Hut section of the Singapore-based Blowing Wind site, by far the majority are about massage and specific masseurs. Very few about gogo bars.

congratulation on meeting famous mamasan Lucy ......... Thai /German fusion are also my favorites at G's, recommended to everybody ............... Yes , great report. Don't worry about not going to New Twilight, changed name to Queens Club and then closed for good. For not visiting and reporting on Sol you won't be forgiven until Monday noon

look at bright side , you can't return to Thailand before going home first

Can relate to this sentiment all too well!

no, it was releasing some venom, likely to mitigate gall-bladder pain

Actually, in this instance I agree with most of what @Moses has said on this subject (yes, they shouldn't sell rail tickets unless there is a visa, but no, it's not the Russian border guards' duty to enforce Finnish law unless they've agreed to do so), but this statement seems to be a preposterous speculation, unless you have real evidence to back it up. And, no--an unsubstantiated statement by the Russian press is not evidence.

of course, unless boss tell them to do. Not to mention time honored and well rehearsed solution - slipping 1000 ruble or whatever note in something looking like document from behind.

Who cares? Russian border guards now mind own business. And since Finland makes no official claims or protests, looks like Russian border guards make their job correctly.

Russia does proper check as usual - in airports of leaving, on train stations and on bus stations. Nobody will sell them tickets to Finland without proper documents. That why they are using bicycles and scooters for to avoid to be stopped. When refugee is on the border point he cannot be legally stopped by Russian border guard - person wants to leave country and his Russian visa is legal, so he has rights to leave Russia. It isn't business of Russian border guard to check if person has rights to enter Finland.

@scott456 always fails at his Gotcha game because he doesn't realize he actually has to be able to back up his statements. It's like a blind man trying to play tag. 🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️

But you forgot to mention that your guess is so wide of the mark it is irrelevant!

It seems you cannot distinguish between the Chinese Cabbage on display (and so named in the catalogue) and Bok Choi (not Bak Choi)! And if you cannot differentiate between a Chinese Cabbage and the other two artworks on display on the Museum's catalogue cover, then you clearly know even less about Chinese art - as well as sounding more than slightly stupid! Indeed, I wonder why you bothered even to comment. Oh, and yes, I am perfectly well aware it is made out of jadeite and not jade, but then some readers might not have known the difference. Now can you please tell us your source for the broken Cabbage and when - as you have claimed - it was broken and repaired? For I can find no source whatever to substantiate your claim. It was certainly reported in 2022 that three artworks in the Museum from the Ming and Qing dynasties had been broken, but these had never been put on display. https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/taiwan-national-palace-museum-admitted-breaking-uninsured-ming-qing-dynasty-artefacts-3035871

The Jade Bak Choi. Do you actually know which one in the picture is Jade Bak Choi?

After you. Thanks for confirming you brought up San Francisco first, then accused me.

Please read the previous posts. You brought up San Francisco first.

Wether something is overpriced is highly subjective. It depends on how much money you have, how much you like Thai boys, and how horny you are.

Yes , Thousand Years Reich lasted only 12

An excellent post from Moses, revealing, yet again, the ignorance and prejudice of the usual long-winded windbag in the opening post.

I just returned to this thread on 11.19.23 and read the brief response. It didn't make sense to me either, so I chose to continue to scroll. Thanks for addressing it!

Interestingly, my Finnish friends say that the country preferred being part of the Russian Empire, as a Grand Duchy of Russia, rather than part of Sweden. Russia took over Finland in 1809, after the Finnish war, part of the Napoleonic campaign. I am told the the Swedes, as the colonial power, were very overbearing, and refused to allow Finnish to be spoken. Strangely, perhaps, the Russians were more liberal.

Don't trust a Gordon Ramsey restaurant. Usually just a franchise these days!

almost like certain Jason from our board

Thanks so much for writing trip report. You must have really enjoyed yourself. So many bars in a few days!

That's for sure. Otherwise, I wouldn't have gone there more than 15 times.

And as one who has been visiting Taipei regularly for decades I echo @Marc in Calif's comments 100%

I fully share your assessment of Jupiter. What I noticed is that while boys seem to be occupied , many patrons only keep them for drinking session and at end of shift boys seem to be free and congregate near the exit hoping to get lucky , certainly I got somebody 2 or 3 times that way. Boys without the numbers , exactly reasons you suspect. Some are performers only , some are already reserved. Again , few times I noticed that tahy did not have numbers during earlier walkabouts but sported one on the last one . Presumably customer who reserved them cancelled or did not show or that were reserved for drinking session and released to the pool at end of night. So if you see boy sitting and drinking with customers , don't assume he won't be available later on.

I can probably answer any questions you might have -- but unclear what information you are looking for? I try to keep my posts up to date as I travel regularly to Colombia and speak with Colombian friends daily. So if I don't have the answer, I can usually ask around. If you are just looking for prepagos, start with Mileroticos (as noted above) as those are the most professional of the scorts. They pay to post ads and they can include reviews -- albeit solely in Spanish. As a foreigner, I would strongly urge you to visit El Recreo de Adan in Zona T (Bogotá). It's a board game themed restaurant-bar where groups gather. You will be invited to join other groups playing game as the atmosphere is very social. It is also a favourite hunting spot for rolos interested in foreigners, so a win for everybody involved. Do know that there is increasing anger against foreigners in recent years as more tourist arrive to enjoy the country and more are choosing to stay. Particularly in Medellín where there is a growing housing crisis. So be aware of your surroundings, just as you would in any other foreign country.

You'll have to explain that sentence, because it's not in English. 💡

I think you have his number Vinapu!

And I'll wager that he's extremely proud of that. Any takers?

@DOA all you said is speculations or guessings.

Here are some of the pics I took of the event. will talk more about it when I have more free time.