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Hi guys, Semi-recently returned from a short trip to Bangkok and would like to share a few things from what was my 7th trip to Thailand now. Rather than write a day-to-day account of my trip, I will just include an assortment of things I got up to. Arrival Flew into Bangkok on Thailand's flagship airline (Thai Airways) and when I started hearing the familiar sounds of the Thai language, it put me in a good mood as I knew I would be arriving to my happy place soon. I was fed so much food during the flight, however when we arrived into Suvarnabhumi, we had to disembark into a bus to take us to the terminal. Wasn't expecting this from a full service carrier and also considering how big Suvarnabhumi is, but I digress. Immigration didn't take too long and I didn't have checked baggage so I headed straight down to the basement floor to take the airport rail link to Makasan, where I then changed to the MRT Petchaburi to Silom. I managed to successfully use my credit card to go through the gates at the MRT (although I tapped my card on the wrong area at first, until the attendant showed me where to tap, which was very clearly marked and I was very clearly blind. Hotel My hotel of choice for this trip was the Crowne Plaza, not particularly cheap (for me) at nearly 4000 baht per night, but I decided to treat myself. It was a very short walk from Silom MRT, the room itself was quite large, with a decent view and a toilet with an electronic bidet. As I booked direct through IHG, I even received a small toy elephant as a thank you. Breakfast was included, and even though I don't usually eat breakfast, I decided that I would on this trip. The breakfast buffet was quite good quality actually, with many options that catered to all tastes. I felt as though the hotel was not particularly full during my stay as I didn't really see a lot of people around. The hotel was also very guest friendly, and there were absolutely no issues with taking guests back to your room. You do need to go up the elevator to the 23rd floor, to where to reception is and then change to another elevator to get to your room. They are also quite generous with towels - I tipped housekeeping each day, and left a note to ask for an extra towel, and they gave me 4 extra towels (in addition to the regular 2) as well as 6 bottles of water. I remember when I asked for extra towels at the Tarntawan, they were a little apprehensive to give me just one! Bars I only managed to go to one bar this trip - Dreamboys. I usually see my favourite boy at least once per trip, but I never tell him that I'm coming so then it's always a surprise. This time was no exception. And it was quite coincidental this time actually because he had just finished his set in the show, and as he was coming off the stage, I had just come in. So I gave him a quick wave and smile, he did a double take and then joined me in my preferred seating (up the back) a few moments later. We had a drink and went back to the hotel where we had some fun times. He knows what I like, I know what he likes so it's pretty comfortable. The bar wasn't particularly busy the few times I went with probably the exception of a Saturday. My guy even helped me pick some other guys that I wanted to take back, by advising me who was good and who wasn't. I did off another 2 guys from here - one of which was quite attractive, very chatty (very good grasp of the English language), and very decent in bed, although when I paid him his (generous) tip, he was a bit cheeky and ask for and extra 200 baht taxi money, so I just gave him 100. He definitely knows the business and what he is doing, and I will most likely repeat. The other was absolutely beautiful (face and body), didn't speak a lot of English and although he tried his best, just seemed like he didn't have much experience and was at times a bit awkward. Never mind, you win some, you lose some. He was nice though but probably would not repeat. On my final night, I offed my favourite boy one more time and he wanted to sleep over but I said no because I was flying out early the next morning. I'm not really a long-time sort of person, short-time being more preferable. Next time, I have some catching up to do as I want to revisit hotmale, screwboys, possibly moonlight, freshboys, and tawan, and I also want to visit banana as I haven't been there yet. Massage Apart going to Prime for my 1 hour foot/1 hour Thai or 1 hour Thai/1 hour oil (even went to a new building which I hadn't been to before), I visited Kman and Apollo. Kman first. This was the first time I ventured outside the Silom/Sathorn area for a massage. Getting there was pretty straight forward - caught the BTS to Saphan Kwai but somehow I went down the wrong exit onto the wrong side of the road and I only realised when I saw a sign for Gbeat massage (which I knew was on the other side of the road), that I back tracked and went up and back down the correct exit, and found the shop shortly after. I don't usually book anyone when I go for a massage, rather I see who is available at the time. The manager came over with his iPad and showed me who was available, and I chose this guy who was T&B, and then got to choose which oil I would like (not that it really made a difference). I also decided to use the VIP room which was only 100 baht more than the regular room and it has a shower. It was 700 for 90 minutes, with a minimum tip of 900. After following my chosen guy up endless stairs (as is usual in places like these), got to the room and had a quick shower before the massage started. There is an art to a sensual/sexual massage and this guy definitely knows what he is doing. He was naked from the start, there was a lot of body contact, mutual touching, and I was on edge the whole time. I had chosen him as he was T&B as I didn't feel like bottoming that day, but when he asked to fuck me I couldn't resist so I said that I will fuck him first, then he can fuck me to which he happily agreed. It was actually a really nice experience and I would definitely repeat. I ended up tipping him 2000 as he deserved it, and did a hell of a lot more than some guys I've paid 2000+ for. Apollo - this experience was a little less exciting. After making the trip all the way to Bearing BTS, the shop was really easy to find - you can see the sign as you are walking down the stairs. When I walked in, I was met with confusion as to why I was there, but then the manager (or similar) came over and asked me 'boy massage?' to which I answered yes, and all was understood. This place also does legit massages as there are foot massage chairs on the ground floor, as well as Thai massage beds on the next floor (separated by curtains). The oil massage rooms are up another floor. As I didn't book ahead, the manager told me there was only one guy available, but there were a few more that he could call and they can come in about 10 minutes. He asked me if I was a top/bottom and usually I am pretty versatile but today I wanted to be a top, so I narrowed my selection and chose a quite attractive guy, the managed called him and he wanted 2000 baht tip to which I agreed. I was shown where the room was and then to the shower (which is in a little bit of a public area), and then waited for him in the room. Since the aircon was shared with the room next door, I could hear what the people in the next room were up to. Anyway, he arrived and we got started. A lot of the time was spent with dry pressing, where I was wondering if anything was going to happen. Eventually it did, but it wasn't super exciting, and there wasn't much of a build-up, and not especially worth the tip I paid. Would I repeat? With him, probably not, but they do have a line account where they send pictures every day so I guess it all depends who you choose. Plus it is quite far away! And as I mentioned before, you win some, you lose some. I know that every experience is not going to be magical, but it's good to try! Other things Food - some notable places that I ate included Sunrise Tacos (the carne asada fries are quite nice, as is the waiter with the face tattoos), Silom night market (pad krapow moo or gai for 80 baht, cooked right in front of you, and also mango sticky rice yummm), 7-11 (toasted sandwiches and banana cupcakes are great at any time of the day and night), and Coffee Grinder (the cafe coco was quite delicious as were all of the staff). Grindr - only met with one guy from Grindr (not a money boy), he is from Koh Samui and just here for a holiday. I think he must be well off though as he said he had stayed at Crowne Plaza quite recently, and was now staying at the Pullman. He also had no less than 3 cell phones on him that day. Malls - visited Icon Siam and Siam Paragon, and they are pretty much just same same. Currency exchange - X-One on Surawong road is always my place of choice. Conclusion I had a good trip and tried to fit as much in as I could, but I became tired quite a lot. The timezone is not exactly that different to that of my home country, but my sleeping pattern is massively different and wreaks havoc on my body. Anyway, I digress. My next trip will likely be in January and I will spend most of time in Bangkok, but wanting to stay in a slightly different area - anyone stayed at Trinity Silom or Furama Xclusive? Do bar boys walk that far? I also want to spend some time in Pattaya (not Jomtien this time as I never seem to have a great time there), instead I'll explore BoyzTown and massages around there. Classrooms hotel will likely be my hotel of choice (as I remember our esteemed Vinapu recommending it), and just by perusing the website, it is super clear and has all the information that I need. I like clarity like this. I may also spend some time in Phuket because why not. Thanks for reading!

Likewise same happened to me on one of very first trips to Bkk many moons ago, where the guy I was with had apparently recorded me / us at various times, both clothed and not and sure enough when done and he tried to do me over for WAY more money then would ever be acceptable to any of us. Then he then turned nasty of ocurse, telling me that he knew the hotel staff and could get my home address details and threatened to send all the pics plus details of "what we'd gotten up to" straight to my "wife" !! I think my howls of laughter and my firm "ha you go right ahead, this should be interesting considering I'm single and gay" threw him somewhat. But it was quite obvious that this was a game he'd played many times before, obviously factoring in that if even just 20% of his customers WERE straight men perhaps "experimenting or playing away from home" then they'd probably be more than happy to pay up whatever he asked just to avoid the risk. Pleased to say that this was after some great sex and after his vain attempts at blackmail he left ( almost) empty handed with the hotel staff throwing him onto the street after him throwing over a few light fittings and things in the room all o try and intimidate me. He then threatening to "find me" no matter where I was in Thailand ! ( although looking back now that probably wouldn't have been that difficult to achieve if he had of actually wanted to of course !) Interestingly, we bumped into each other in DJ Station a few years later and he actually apologised and admitted it had been a bad time in his life and he'd been on a lot of drugs etc and asked would I accept a beer along with his apology ( which I did) and we parted the best of friends and have actually bumped into each other a few times since and always stop to say hi and catch up. Ha I sometime wish I'd of asked him a copy of whatever pics he said he had so I could look back on them fondly in my dotage but alas that moment has passed 🙂

I'm pretty sure you are talking about Arthur&Paul and Rambutan (cheaper one ) in Phnom Penh. About Bangkok, yes , after demise of BBB Inn and converting Tarntawan to mainstream there are no gay exclusive hotels but there are rooms for rent at Coffee Grinder 2 doors away from Tawan bar . Gay for sure , if exclusive , not that sure bur since owner reads this forum he may chip in. Since all things gay become more mainstream there's no need for gay exclusive places other than perhaps saunas and massages. Go-go bars are already girls infested to a certain degree.

Some say the same about sucking cock--but none here I think.

Be kind and gentlemanly. One poster given warning and suspended for 30 days.

Definitely. I too lived in Hong Kong for three years. As a fifteen year old the heat and humidity never bothered me, however my parents always complained about it. I remember telling them it was all in the mind….how wrong I was!

He is not the only one who suspects that!

So the Minister for Agriculture is another ex-army man. And not just "another"! He was deputy in the department in the previous government. Funny how this man served four years in jail of a six year sentence in the 1990s for conspiring to import 3.2 kg of heroin into Australia. Of course he now denies it but BBC reporters uncovered Australian court records showing he served four years before being deported back to Thailand. In a censure debate in 2020 he was accused of having lied to parliament about the case. He claimed he had imported flour! In the ensuing vote, he was rebuked by 17 members of his own small Party. In September 2021 he was sacked from that Party. He was also a known "fixer" for the 2014 Prayut junta. Odd, isn't it, how whenever military high-ups were accused of building for their own use on government land, their cases were almost always thrown out? Then there was the mask fixing scandal during the early period of covid when one of his aides claimed to have a stockpile of millions of masks for sale privately at a time when hospitals were desperately short of them. When the aide was asked about the stockpile by the media, his answer was, "I know nothing." Thammanat dismissed the story as an attempt to discredit him. The Prime Minister then refused to comment and also did nothing, despite the fact that stockpiling or profiting from the sale of sanitary masks was at that time a crime punishable with up to seven years in prison. In his declaration of assets for the 2019 general election he listed a Bentley, a Rolls Royce, a Tesla and Mercedes along with 12 Hermes and 13 Chanel handbags plus a stash of luxury watches. Not unlike a lot of the others in the list, I presume 😵

Maybe it's because most travellers are no longer new to Thailand and thus don't need guides, whereas they're still new to Vietnam.

Mister International 2023 is scheduled to be held in Bangkok on 23 Sept Before that, Thailand will select its representative tonight (3 Sept). Last night was preliminaries.

From Laotian Times The Laotian Times reported on August 30 that Lao workers are leaving the country in large numbers, searching for employment opportunities abroad amid the skyrocketing cost of living at home. At the same time, from the manufacturing industry to construction and hospitality, local businesses have reported a dire shortage of labourers, which has affected their operations and post-pandemic recovery. According to the newspaper, the labour crisis has been caused mainly by workers seeking employment in other countries due to low wages in Laos, which, despite some increases, have failed to keep pace with the continued depreciation of the Lao Kip. Compounding matters, Lao authorities have even authorised and facilitated workers in pursuing temporary employment abroad in countries such as the Republic of Korea, Thailand and Japan through legal channels and programmes. To reduce the financial burden of Lao workers, the Lao Prime Minister’s Office has approved raising the minimum monthly wage in the country from 1,300,000 LAK (67 USD) to 1,600,000 LAK (83 USD) starting from October.

I’m probably the trinity Silom regular Vinapu refers to, and yes the clincher for me is the large pool with great views on 8th floor. I never take the breakfast. So many local market and coffee shop options. The walk is fine to the main areas. Look for it on agoda where it can be a really great price. I’ve got some December 2023 nights at around 1000 baht. It can go very expensive at times too.

What I personally don't like at Trinity Silom is that it is spread over multiple buildings, gym/pool in different building, room and reception possibly in different buildings, for entering some of the buildings you need to use the key card, for using the pool you need to go to reception to get voucher, to have breakfast (which is not really good if I remember correclty) you need to go to reception to get voucher. On the other hand, the pool is really nice and big, if you want to swim some lanes.

Thank you for very good and comprehensive report. Glad you had a great time there, at end of day it's why we travel to Thailand in the first place. few comments for paragraphs quoted for benefits of readers not familiar with Bangkok : going from /to airport to/from Silom area by public transport there are two options, one you took with change to MRT (underground) at Makasan (advantage - only one change , disadvantage -pretty long walk from Makasan to Petchaburi, covered walkway though , going other way to airport if using that option train may arrive already quite full so danger of standing room only, not that it's long trip , about 25 mins only ). Second option I prefer is to take ARL (airport train all the way to Phaya Thai, and then change into BTS ( overhead rail) to Siam ( just 2 stops ) and then change again ON THE SAME PLATFORM to Sala Daeng station (another two stops ) . Advantage - you can admire view and get/ refresh grasp of the area, got rate on money exachnge counters at Phaya Thai station, disadvantage - 2 changes instead of one. Difference in travel time and price miniscule , if any. Reasons for comment , on last trip when asked on the train by phone wielding couple going to Silom if they should alight at Makasan I suggested my option pointing that I'm going there now they looked at me like I told them to go through some territory untouched by human foot. ............ towel issue - that's probably the difference between 4000 and 1400 hotels. But yes , in cheaper places it may be an issue to get that extra towel if one expects more than one visitor a day. Solution I use if hotel makes it hard or is asking for extra money (50 to 200 ) , if Ii can I pack extra towel or buy cheap one in Silom market and use it myself, treating guest with hotel provided regalia ...... that the first Apollo report if I'm not mistaken so very thank you. Don't be discouraged by so so experience, as they say , one statistic sample is not a basis for scientific hypothesis. Likely reason for confusion is fact you did not book in advance. They have very extensive list of masseurs and respond pretty fast although not as fast as Jey Spa. I had bad luck as two I chose were not available that day so I gave up. It's far indeed , total travelling time from Choing Nonsi to Bearing -40 minutes but if guy one craves is available it will be worth it, if one is tried by such long trek , said Jey is half way through where you can take a travel break and continue after 1-1.50 hrs of massage there. ..... on pain of repeating myself but for benefit of newly arrived readers since Dec 2021 Furama Sathorn Xclusive is my favorite hotel in Silom area. Rooms are big, visitors not bothered with day or night, breakfasts ample , for economizing there's simple restaurant in the soi just across hotel, close to Chong Nonsi BTS and soi 5 market. Never had boy complaining that it's too far to walk, if they have motosai, there's parking. In short , go for it. As for Trinity Silom which is across the street , last time I stay there was in 2002 so will not say anything but there one member who stays there regularly and he may chip in with comments. Can't be bad if he returns, right ? ....... the same with Classrooms, absolutely recommended, around the corner from BoyzTown, discreet card operated entry bypassing reception, rooms big , clan and well appointed , even with cutlery. Copa is close second and bit cheaper but it's location above Boyztown bars may be noisier although I don't recall issues. Ambiance is similar but I don't like their maze of corridors so stay there rarely

Think of all the extra pockets you could have designed into the clothes 😲

When a reasonable percentage of your time has to be spent outdoors, AC is of little help.

I did not notice but really I was focusing on other parts than faces , those covered , wondering what mysteries are there

Mac, from Gayguides, is the opposite. I invite him to come to the hotel for breakfast, before a tour, and I have to almost force him to eat. I point out that actually I get breakfast for 2 included in my room rate at Le Meredien! And he should eat what he likes. He says, 'do you think I can have another coconut juice?' Sweet, and/or polite, but almost aggravating! Same at lunch. I always buy lunch for the guide and the driver, and Mac is always very modest. I do give him a good tip!

I understand it and chalk it off to cultural differences when it happens first time. But if we dined before , sometimes even few times then he should know routine. Not fundamental issue and I don't mind spending money as eating together apart from filling stomach is a lot of fun but I'm opposing to wasting food that way, any way in fact.

I don't know anyone who has gone to K-Man and left disappointed. Happy to hear you're now among them. Thanks for your report.

Watching that vdo, I do wish each contestant had worn a number. I also found it rather strange that the models were all virtually identical in height with almost the same sculpted bodies. I'd have assumed a slightly greater variety (or perhaps would have wished for a greater variety since that model look is not my type 😉) I was not aware until I looked up wikipedia that Mister International was actually founded by a Singaporean and run from Singapore from 2006 to 2021. With the death of the founder, the organisation has been moved to Thailand and has a Thai President. Originally it was only for single men. Since the move, fathers, married and divorced men are now permitted to enter as contestants. It has always been held in Asia. Interestingly, the country with the most titles is Lebanon with 3. Vietnam and Brazil come second with 2. Thailand has never won nor have its entrants ever come in any subsequent positions from 2nd to 5th. I find that rather surprising given that of Asian contestants Vietnam, South Korea and The Philippines have each had 3 finalists in the top 5, whereas Singapore, Japan, Indonesia, India, Hong Kong and China have each had one. Last year, though, Mr Thailand won the Mister Photogenic prize.

He has no idea? That has to be the joke of the month!

On the other hand, I am quite picky about sucking cocks. That's why I travel this far.

My statistic in Siamroads shows what Vietnam is more popular within gay tourists now than Thailand. First year since 2009 Siamroads has more request and reservations in VN, than in TH.

Thanks for the report Goldmember. You can see pics of the handsome Knott and the hunky Singh from S'Senses massage, along with the rest of their crew, here https://myalbum.com/album/JZpMRvAipch8/?fbclid=IwAR2MteL9Kwkr2nBpKEBpdOz6BLz-wEnS5ZjAGzPXq57W8B0VHdYPOPy_TVY

I remember the BBB Inn! Happy days. Going back to the thread, the main advantage of meeting the guy downstairs is no nasty surprises, ie 15 years older etc. Easier to politely remove the guy if you are in lobby!

When I returned from my ‘reward’ trip in beginning of June I did not have any idea when next trip may be. In summer I was planning to see my sister living in another country. Family politics though created some free time before I went to see her and I decided to utilize it for yet another trip this year. Main motivation was that two of my forum friends , further referred as MJ and MK were planning to be there in BKK at the same time and then , as reinforcement, another one, MA, announced he will be arriving few days after me. Secondary motivation was they I never been in Thailand in July and now after returning from that trip I have only March and April to cover. Since it was trip within previously arranged trip there were some potential connection problems i.e . my ticket was non-refundable and I had only 3 hours to make connection in Berlin but all went according to the plan. Last trip I was complaining about yakking neighbors, this time it was my turn as I had two seat companions, , elderly Swede and young, handsome like hell, half-Thai and half-French, both talkative so I must say flight went very fast, not that we were talking all the time. Arrived at noon, small jubilee as it was 30th landing in Thialand . I smartly decided to utilize luggage waiting time to buy SIM card and it was bright idea as my suitcase popped out exactly in moment I approached conveyor belt. In 1 hour from landing I was already in the train reporting to reader, MJ and MK that all went well and I’m in Bangkok indeed. I like to change hotels every 2 -3 nights but this time I decided to settle in 9-4 configuration and my hotel for first 9 night was Quarter SalaDaeng, former Siri Sathorn. About 10 minutes walk from Sala Daeng BTS. Room was impressive , rather like small apartment with separate living room , kitchen and bedroom areas and with quite opulent buffet breakfast included. Very good value for money although not all was rosy. As it turned later walls were paper thin and at night I/we ( in Thailand I rarely sleep alone out of fear of ghosts) could hear very well what is going on on other side. Also to get hot water some time was required before it started lowing. MK who stay in the same hotel did not have such problem though. Day 1 Soon after I tidy myself over after long trek MK knocked to my door , it was our first meeting since pre-covid. It was nice to see old friend after such long break. Next was walk to XOne on Suriwong to exchange some money and I found rate quite good, nice surprise. Straight from there to Coffee Grinder for meeting with reader. I managed to catch him day before his return home so we had good time exchanging latest news while ogling cute waiters in the process. At 8.30 three of us , MJ who is staying nearby , MK and me went to G’Bangkok for dinner. Mid week and low season- both were evident as place was quite empty. Since we were in soi 4 already next step was kind of obvious-Jupiter. Not very busy as well so we got very good seats . There were 4 walkabouts by their boys, first in briefs , second in boxers, last two in jeans but with numbers. Most boys sported those so not many were offed or reserved, another sign of low season. We stay till end of show and then I decided to start improving economy , called muscular and hairless Vietnamese named Tam. As always I asked about long time but we couldn’t come to terms about compensation so we settled on hot and steamy, very pleasant although bit rushed in true Jupiter form , short time. I liked him very much and would gladly employ him few more times but since his request was above what I’m was prepared to fork out it was our last meeting this trip even if he tried to extract subsequent offs by messaging me daily. I stay firm declining those advances. Next time ,next trip , yes. Day 2 After long trip and steamy meeting I slept very well, like a stone. MJ joined me for a breakfast as his place is not offering it and I have one for two anyways. As always we exchanged news and impressions and decided to go to Jey Spa for 2 pm. We went by Grab, I booked the same guy I had few times previously- Maii . He remembered me and remembered what I like. Who cares about massage ? Great session , great guy, great place with great selection. In the afternoon a bit of jet lag so I collapsed on the bed for few hours. At 8.30 again our trio MJ, MK and me went to G’Bangkok for dinner warmly greeted by the boss himself (he was absent yesterday) who was surprised to see me again after only few weeks. Restaurant was busy for a change. Next we opted for Moonlight tonight. Not very busy, again low season. Neither A nor Y, my favorites from there were present but I noticed new , very cute boy. Mamasan told me he is Cambodian who started just today. So I rushed with 100 note toward him for a good start but asked mamasan to call Y and ask if he wants to go with me. Description of customer was somewhat not clear because Y asked to see my picture and only when mamasan sent it to him he said is rushing immediately. When he mention shower I told him not to bother he can take in my room. Soon he came , all smiles. Not long after we were walking home. Offer of dinner declined but as soon as we entered room he asked for few minutes so he can go and buy something to eat. I noticed certain patter here as it was not first time. Either he doesn’t want to be seen with farang in restaurant or, much more likely he doesn’t want me to spent too much money on his food. It did not take much time for him to return so we could start discussing recent elections of village councils in Burkina Faso and Eswatini ( former Swaziland). Not sure people on other side of wall could hear us but for sure we could hear them , more or less discussing the same elections but in guy/ girl configuration. Y is great guy who knows how to keep me smiling, that was my last thought before falling asleep.

From Thai PBS World Here is the new confirmed list of 34 ministers and deputy ministers in the Srettha administration: Prime Minister – Srettha Thavisin (Pheu Thai) Deputy Prime Minister – Phumtham Wechayachai (Pheu Thai) – Parnpree Bahiddha-Nukara (Pheu Thai) – Somsak Thepsutin (Pheu Thai) – Anutin Charnvirakul (Bhumjaithai) – Gen Prawit’s brother, Pol Gen Patcharawat Wongsuwan (Palang Pracharath) – Pirapan Salirathavibhaga (Ruam Thai Sang Chart) PM Office Minister – Puangphet Choonla-iad (Pheu Thai) Interior Ministry – Anutin Charnvirakul (Bhumjaithai) = Minister – Chada Thaiseth (Bhumjaithai) = Deputy – Songsak Thongsri (Bhumjaithai) = Deputy – Kriang Kantinan (Pheu Thai) = Deputy Defence Ministry – Suthin Klangsaeng (Pheu Thai) = Minister Foreign Ministry – Parnpree Bahiddha-Nukara (Pheu Thai) = Minister – Jakkapong Sangmanee (Pheu Thai) = Deputy Justice Ministry – Pol Col Tawee Sodsong (Prachachart) = Minister Health Ministry – Chonlanan Srikaew (Pheu Thai) = Minister – Santi Promphat (Palang Pracharath) = Deputy Education Ministry – Newin’s brother, Pol Gen Permpoon Chidchob (Bhumjaithai) = Minister – Surasak Phancharoenworakun (Bhumjaithai) = Deputy Higher Education, Science, Research and Innovation Ministry – Supamat Issarapakdi (Bhumjaithai) = Minister Social Development and Human Security Ministry – Varawut Silpa-archa (Chart Thai Pattana) = Minister Natural Resources and Environment Ministry – Pol Gen Patcharawat Wongsuwan (Palang Pracharath) = Minister Culture Ministry – Sermsak Pongpanit (Pheu Thai) = Minister Finance Ministry – Srettha Thavisin (Pheu Thai) = Minister – Julaphan Amornvivat (Pheu Thai) = Deputy – Krisada Chinavicharana (outsider) = Deputy Tourism and Sports Ministry – Sudawan Wangsuphakijkosol (Pheu Thai) = Minister Energy Ministry – Pirapan Salirathavibhaga (Ruam Thai Sang Chart) Commerce Ministry – Phumtham Wechayachai (Pheu Thai) = Minister – Napintorn Srisunpang (Bhumjaithai) = Deputy Labour Ministry – Phiphat Ratchakitprakarn (Bhumjaithai) =Minister Agriculture Ministry – Capt Thammanat Prompao (Palang Pracharath) = Minister – Anucha Nakasai (Ruam Thai Sang Chart) = Deputy – Chaiya Phromma (Pheu Thai) = Deputy Transport Ministry – Suriya Juangroongruangkit (Pheu Thai) = Minister – Surapong Piyachot (Pheu Thai) = Deputy – Monporn Charoensri (Pheu Thai) = Deputy Digital Economy and Society Ministry – Prasert Chantararuangthong = Minister Industry Ministry – Pimpatra Wichaikul (Ruam Thai Sang Chart)

Dongtan Beach as gay Beach gone , the gay Beach section in Patong Beach gone, Paradise Complex in Patong and Sunee Plaza in Pattaya reminds ghost towns, what more evidence do you need that the gay clientele in Thailand is not what is used to be ? Regarding the younger gay generation I agree with you they don’t feel the need to be in gay ghettoes and behave like the mainstream tourists.

Smiling fashion models, is that a new trend? Could someone tell Jupiter!

I'm at the airport starting my journey over to that side of the world....I wouldn't be surprised if I ran into you somewhere while I'm there.

there's one well established at other end of the same soi Boyztown soi XBoys and Dream Boys are. Never tried him though as I don't wear custom made clothes due to religious reasons.

Doesn't really seem to be much change. Anutin still ther: the drug runner, and General Watches' brother!

Gosh, what a surprise!

The good thing is, most western countries have social welfare systems that take care of the poor. I would rather live poor in my last few years and die than regretting not enjoy my money while I still can.

Having sex with men.

I guess you don't complain about them being unhygienic. Sometimes they may be of strange shape or deformed by mooks but unhygienic, no. I think they have good idea of how much they will sell cooking only that much. Whatever is left is eaten by family at end of day, at least this is what one of bar boys, during day selling food from family stand somewhere at Huay Kwang, told me.

yes, by end of this month

I am not picky about food, but I don't eat at food stalls on the street in Thailand. They just don't seem hygienic.

You are on something, now every second or third restaurant in Pattaya seems to be Indian one. I wouldn't say everywhere though as I saw very few of them, if any , in Boyztown or Jomtien boy bars.

Any betting on further early release in health grounds? Anyone remember Ernest Saunders, known as Deadly Ernest, one of the Guinness 4, who was released from prison early, as he was said to have Alzheimer's? He is the only person known to have made a miraculous recovery once released! What odds for the same thing here!

I find it curiously reassuring to hear of instances where one of "our" guys shows discernment in matters of cuisine, even if we don't necessarily share his opinion. Vinapu should be gratified. Just as I was when P sent back a dish to the kitchen in a relatively pricey restaurant and had it replaced because it hadn't been cooked to his taste. How things have changed over the decades! A progression from street food in Pattaya Tai to haute cuisine. Well, more or less.

Very true , I thought about this after you last wrote it and I noticed many other posters quoting what you wrote . The excitement and looking forward ,even the planning etc , but you know you get the both of both worlds if you live in farangland and travel there two or three times a year . I actually asked a expat who moved to Pattaya what he looks forward to in regard to travel now ,and he really couldn't come up with anything except Cambodia. Last month I actually met a former Pattaya business owner who was now living in his home country and visiting Thailand,he gets far more enjoyment in visiting twice a year than living there ,although at his age of 72 he is finding the travel can be tiring. He actually lovess to work and still works full time in his home country so can afford to travel rather than as he puts it " hibernate in a room in Pattaya by himself all year long" " been there done that" he said I wont say who it is but he was running a business back in the early 2000's in Pattaya ,a nice guy

capping fares at 20 baht might get some vehicles off the road, but they probably need to add some capacity as well since things are so crowded at peak times already

it's amazing that this sort of arguments is repeated world wide whenever there's talk about increasing minimum wage. Not that is does not have some merit but when eventually that rises are implemented promised wave of bankruptcies, flight of foreign investors and general collapse of economy never happens. Extra money made by minimum wage earners return to economy before they say ' thank you boss for the rise"

Day 11 In the morning SK was sleeping soundly so I decided not wake him up and went to new Foodland for breakfast and meeting with MJ alone. I left his tip in plain view just in case, actually bit more because of his recent troubles in appreciation of fact that he did not ask for anything. We had a lot to talk about with MJ so when I returned well past 10 he was gone and tip collected with ‘thank you ‘message on the Line . Gone were also my new sandals owing to miscommunication. When he was e going to 7/11 last night I told SK he can use mine sandals instead of tying his sneakers and all that. What I meant one time usage he took as permission to use them in perpetuity. No harm done since I had another pair. Today I feel a bit cold so went to buy Tylenol and stay in the room till afternoon. Tylenol did the job and at 4 pm I was ready for trip to Arena with MJ as decided in the morning . When going to bars or spas with somebody there’s always possibility that both of us will be fond of the same guy so we agreed on who will be first. Greeted by veteran captain Art we surveyed realm , today very rich selection of mostly hunky hunks. Fortunately we had different picks. My choice was guy whose face was bit familiar but whom I was certain I never engaged. Only when he told me his name Nuk I got enlightened. One of most popular and praised guys there for many years. There was member who never took anybody else from arena then him. Finally today was my turn to get acquainted . He aged a bit since last time I saw him there but he did not lost his luster. Great body , great massage skills and every thing else. Spoiled him with 2000 tip . Then MJ and me went to Foodland, a bit underused this trip because I had breakfast included in Quarter and for dinners somehow G’Bangkok had bit more allure. We always had plenty to talk about liking exactly the same types and in fact the same boys so spent some time there exchanging news. In the evening MK and me planned to go to Tawan so I went there knowing MK will be inside already. There was new boy # 4 , not exactly hunk but very attractive still. I had him sitting over drink and used occasion to get bit intimate if only to have excuse to tip him. S wasted no time to sit beside on other side , that way securing LT off tonight. Knowing what I know now If I have any regret this trip it was that I did not off #4 tonight instead . It was raining quite heavily when S and I left so even if it’s very close to hotel we took taxi which handily just appeared in front of bar. Very energetic night, as I mentioned before S is not even close to being sand bag , at least not with me, that’s sure thing. He likes his inflated tips but to be fair works for them quite hard and never complains about inability to sleep because my manipulations. But for tomorrow I made firm resolve , it’s #4. We will see how it will work.

Day 8 When Kao left I felt so happy and energized that decided I can’t leave things as they are. Send Line to Y if he is available, answer come right away and with picture – sick in bed. So I tried SK, only could leave message so I fell asleep, SK actually called me but I was sleeping soo deeply I did not even hear that. So I guess I was meant to sleep alone that very night. Came for breakfast quite late and it was so full I had problem of finding space. I apologized to SK for missing his message and offered him Mahankhon trip instead. He said he will be there in 1 hr. Then I got into touristy mood and asked him if he wants to go with me to see new tunnel leading to Grand Palace. Off we went, impressive place, most important there are toilets there. Then I hired boat for 1.5 hr canals trip, SK gladly joined me . He is not shy type, even called his mom and show her naïve farang treating him to those forays. Quite clingy on the boat too. We returned to Silom civilization by the tourist boat. At 4.30 I went to Cofee Grinder to meet MA for latest news exchange, next step was dinner at G’Bangkok and it was dark already when I returned to my room. Asked Y if he feels better now, shrewd guy answered that he does and if I want he can come to my room tonight pointing that it’s his day off so I can save money on off fee. Deal. Day 9 It seems I can’t have enough Y , after breakfast I asked him to return to the room for some more intimacies. Can’t blame myself , I like him , both personality and build. I think he appreciates too fact that I engage him so often this trip. Of course I tipped him extra for that overtime. Today MA moved to my hotel so we celebrated that fact by having coffee and bagel in restaurant in the lobby. And decided to go to Jey Spa to try our luck there. There were only 2 guys on duty, both suitable but mamasan said he will call one more in a second and that was good move as new arrival happened to catch MA’s eye. I opted for guy nicked/named Guy, 100% gay by his won admission. Handsome and knows his job but min tip 2500 . Not saying was not worth it but rather on high side. Then I suggested pizza dinner at Madrid so MA and me went there . Madrid Tavern never disappoints. In the evening I went to Patpong 2 hoping SA will be there but they told me he went to Cambodia to take his ailing brother there. Then had few drinks with MA and boys at Hot Male beer bar. There’s new host, named One there. Very nice young gentleman . But somehow I had hots for A at Moonlight so went there only to see him just being taken by customer. He apologetically said “ I know you came here for Y” which was not accurate but what I could do if he was already taken ? So yes, knowing from yesterday that Y will be available only till 2.30 am tonight I took him home anyways. I told you I seem not to have enough of him. We found way to keep us occupied till that 2.30 , than he collected his ST tip and went to Bus Station to pick up his sister as he told me yesterday he will.

Day 7 we woke up at 6 and after short wrestling session and shower went for breakfast. That early I expected hotel restaurant to be empty and to my surprise it was almost full. Back in the room I tipped him. He did not seem to be happy, not that I was stingy. He likely noticed I’m surprised with his reaction so put himself together and said ‘thank you Buddha”. That’s better I thought. Problem with occasional over generous tip is that some guys expect it to be permanent fixture and that was likely a case. Today MA and me have tourist program – visit at GMMTV , producer of so many BL series headquarters in Ratachada. We went there by subway. There;s whole procedure before admission to gift shop on 30 something floor. We were told to leave passports on reception before we could enter elevator. Gift shop was mobbed by Asian girls so we both were bit out of place but they were [patiently waiting when we were browsing screens with memorial trinkets they offer for sale . At end of day nothing took our fancy but it was fun. Then we had coffee in Starbucks in the lobby , there were dozens of fans camping there hoping to catch the glimpse of one of their stars I guess. Then we parted ways. I went to Rama IX Central nearby on hunting mission. One of my most favorite guys of all times , M from Senso is hairdresser in one of shops there. I tried to spot him previously but did not succeed and neither I did today. Hope dies last though, it’s always next time ! Upon return to the room and it was already 3 pm I was surprised it was not cleaned yet but I went to XOne to change some money and when I returned it was already tidied. This afternoon I have meeting with guy I met by chance in one of previous trips who is not a guy from the scene. We talked occasionally from time to time . Last time we talked , one of us , I don’t remember who , suggested we should have dinner together one day . Today was the day. Kao is his name or at least it’s how he wants me to call him. I did not have any expectancies but was very curious to see if something more than talk and meal together comes out of it. He arrived on the dot at 5 as agreed. If this trip proved something it was that most boys are very punctual and on time contrary to what some slanderous farangs may say. To break the ice we went to place across hotel with some stalls and had some Lao craft beer there. When subject of something more substantial came he suggested meal in Sizzler on Silom. I liked idea although I don’t usually dine there but few years ago had birthday meal at the place with two other boys in tow. Surprisingly he suggested we walk there, so much about Thai guys being reluctant to walk. Reason given was even more endearing ‘ we will have more time to talk” ( his English is good conversational although he admitted he speaks tongue but doesn’t write it). That was a good sign no doubt. He was visibly reluctant to order as prices there are quite high but I made it easy for him “ do you want that steak?” , ‘too expensive “ , ‘ ok, one for you , one for me “. But I liked fact that he was trying not to take advantage of being treated. Best part came when we were considering drinks ‘ I have a juice, we can buy some beers at 7/11 and drink it in your room “ . Hearing it I thought I just have a stroke as it was something I was afraid even to dream about , him in my room , whoa !!! Nasty surprise came when we went to settle a bill. Not it’s size ( 2045 , not a cheap place I told you ) but fact they don’t take a cash. . Normally I don’ use plastic when I travel unless not given a choice and in Thailand I don’t even carry cards with me , keeping them in safe box. I like cash. If Guardian Angel did not suggest I take wallet with me just in case I wouldn’t. If I did not it were so embarrassing. I generally boycott places refusing to take cash and now I’m even more inclined to boycott them so likely it was my last visit at Sizzler Silom in this life for that very reason. Uff ! So we did as planned , stocked up on beer at 7/11 near hotel and went straight to the room. Yes, we drank all that beer and had very nice conversation and yes, as evening was unfolding we slowly but surely become bit more closer and closer but that’s nobody’s business. From what I thought it will be sober and well behaved evening it turned out to be quite romantic and interesting one even if two things were excluded by Kao from the menu – kiss and long time. Not that he was in rush to go , I was trying to use fact that he drunk quite a bit to keep him here even pointing to the fact that there’s bed in bedroom a but also sofa in the living room but he was firm “ I drive slowly and will sleep at home “. So around midnight I decided I let him go, I did not want him to get too drunk. We already agreed to met on another day this trip. It was one thing I was not sure how to handle not to create any offense to such great guy. You got it – should I tip or not. I decided to abandon any pretense of diplomacy and asked straight away “ can I give you some money?” to get an answer “ of course”. So I did. Long live Thailand where casual conversation may lead to such great afternoon and evening I thought when he closed door.

Day 3 In the morning MJ joined Y and me breakfast and after breakfast I got bit amorous so asked Y to return to the room for a little bit more electoral discussions. 1 hour, 1 thousand , pure pleasure. Today I’m planning to see latest Indiana Jones movie, MK expressed an interest in that as well and so did Y as soon as I mentioned about such an opportunity. When Y left I went to Sam Yan Mitrtown to buy a tickets which turned out not necessary to do in advance as cinema was hardly crowded. In early afternoon MK and me walked there all the way from hotel. Y appeared at the same time, so much about boys not able to keep appointed time . As for movie itself I liked it, 2 hours action non stop although story itself bit too sophisticated for my liking but I won’t say more not to spoil it for those who did not have a chance to see movie yet. I asked Y if he will be interested in repeating last night which made him visibly happy, which in turn boosted my ego exponentially and I had sweetener for that deal too. MJ and his friend are planning seafood buffet dinner atop of Baiyoke Sky tonight, MJ asked me to join in as I know his friend and I in turn asked Y if he would be interested to attend. He smiled even more broadly thinking probably “that old fool is spoiling me today big time”. He arrived at hotel on the dot and at 6.30 pm our trio took taxi to Baiyoke where MJ’s friend was waiting for us already at the entrance. Great time was had by all, food and conversation were excellent although I couldn’t utilize food in full tending to be bit allergic to the seafood. After dinner we went to moving platform on the top to admire Bangkok by night and take some pictures. Great evening and great company. Upon returning to hotel we did not waste much time to return to our discussions, this time about subway plans for Asuncion , Paraguay and Maputo, Mozambique. Day 4 started soon after midnight. Somebody threw party and with walls paper thin it was noisy to a point of nuisance. I’m actually surprised that hotel management did not intervened as it could be certainly heard on reception. Since I had such company I was not that much interested in sleeping so we carried on. When they stopped it was already dawning so we got some sleep in the morning. Over breakfast conversation came to subject of Mahanakhon. Not sure who started it but it turned that Y never was there so I suggested we go today. Pilgrimage to that glass at 314 meters above the ground is my must do every trip. Y went home to change clothes and when we met at the tower 1.5 hr. later all I could say was ‘wow’ . Certainly he dressed for occasion. Yes, I saw few heads turning , both in lobby and at the top. Neither hysterics nor excessive sweating on the glass which can’t be said about every boy I invited there and I invited quite a few over years. I suggested we have a drink and was surprised that after carefully studying price list he asked for coffee, cheapest item. That guy is a gem. Not that I did not know before. Word of advice for those entertaining idea of taking boy there. Since that’s quite expensive foray please make sure that guy you are inviting there is really interested in going and not doing that just to make you happy. I had few guys who did not enjoy the heights and even one who said afterwards that he would prefer to receive half admission fee ( 880 baht ) in cash instead. Anyways Y was happy and so was I. After quite intensive 2 days in his company I told him he will be free tonight as I had other plans but promised to see him again. We do have chemistry , that’s good news. I returned to hotel to have a rest after sleepless night. In the afternoon I went to soi 6 where N, the masseur was surprised to see me . Of course we had massage session which turned more romantic than therapeutic. For dinner I suggested to MK Madrid Tavern to which he agreed and we went there by BTS and walked from Saphan Taksn Station. Lady’s reaction there was funny “ you still here, you told me last time you going home ?” so I explained that in fact I left and I’m back again. Not sure she was convicted though. Anyways pizza was great as always. We returned to Silom by bus and resolved to visit Tawan tonight as both MK and me are fond of their offerings. So hour or two later with pockets full I went there , MK was already in. as always I was mobbed by boys but used MK presence claiming he is my boyfriend and won’t be offing anybody tonight which eased a bit of tip requests. I was hoping S will be there and he was indeed so I secured him for long time tonight but we soldiered on in the bar till midnight when bar started emptying. Again it was no problem walking there, S modestly asked for some food on the street. Tonight my floor was quiet , no party , no noises so it felt like just S and me. He knows what I like and I know what he likes (over market tips ) so again great chemistry.