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Or just another closet gay pushing out homophobic vibes to protect his hetero image while checking out the boys in the gay area.

Getting both at the same place isn't easy..... Don't listen to gayinpattaya, might as well ask him about pussy, he doesn't know about massages he never gets any, too ticklish for anyone to touch him, kind of like Winnie the Pooh 😆

From VN Express Vietnam is granting 90-day e-visas for all countries and territories from Aug. 15 and here are some information you should take notes for smooth application. Non-nationals can access the e-visa web portal of the Vietnam Immigration Department at https://www.immigration.gov.vn or the National Public Service Portal of the Ministry of Public Security at https://dichvucong.bocongan.gov.vn/ to apply. All information regarding the trip, including intended date of entry and length of stay in Vietnam, intended port of entry and departure, and intended temporary residential address in Vietnam must be given. In the e-visa request information category, foreigners select single-entry visa or multiple-entry based on the purpose of their trip. The form requires information from the passport data page, and images of the page and passport photo must be uploaded.

Booking.com is one of the world's leading internet travel booking sites, including in its portfolio Agoda, Kayak, Hotelscombined, Priceline and other sites. It operates in 220+ countries in 40+ languages. In 2022 it's worldwide gross travel bookings were US$121.3 billion. Like many travel sites, it collects cash from bookers and later passes these on to their accommodation clients after deduction of commissions and fees. Now, though, it has been accused of not paying quite a number of accommodation providers. One in the UK is owed £50,000 for rentals of several properties. He claims thousands of others around the world are also suffering from delayed payments. Another renter had failed to receive any income after being promised payment five times. A statement from booking.com claims it is "urgently working to resume payments, which were delayed as a result of a planned system maintenance." Well, believe that if you wish! It further claims the majority of "partners" have been paid on time but "in a small number of cases, there have been unforeseen technical issues that are quickly being resolved." And believe that if you wish! https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leicestershire-66459808?xtor=AL-72-[partner]-[bbc.news.twitter]-[headline]-[news]-[bizdev]-[isapi]&at_format=link&at_link_origin=BBCNews&at_link_id=4326623C-3776-11EE-B378-0FFC5B3BE886&at_campaign=Social_Flow&at_medium=social&at_campaign_type=owned&at_link_type=web_link&at_ptr_name=twitter&at_bbc_team=editorial I recently booked a 5-star hotel in Taipei at the lowest rate i could find through a company I had never booked through before - Klook. This is a relatively new Hong Kong based startup and I was slightly concerned about the booking. An email to the hotel confirmed everything was in order. Klook has a number of impressive investors including Goldman Sachs and Softbank. From a quick check, its rates are also competitive with Agoda.

BlkSuperman thank you my friend I wish you were here along with other forum members. I would have fun just talking with you all. But you have already kept me safe based on the wisdom you have all shared Thank You. But day one was such an eye opener because so many men are so fuckable. OMG I had a twink who just wanted to suck and get fucked by an American . He just needed a ride into Rio Uber was 16 dollars American. Got here and I made sure that he was 18. Hugged him and grabbed his ass while I was hugging him. Nice round firm apple that was my pleasure to squeeze. He could suck dick well.I had fun sucking his dick too. He mades me think twice that he had practice. LOL said he could bottom and was clean. He could take some dick and road it in several different positions without pulling out. Sadly when I pulled out one time to fuck him on the bed instead of the desk in my room. He was not clean he apologized I changed condoms and finished by having him suck me off. But over all this was still a pleasant experience. I look forward to more fun. I included some pics so you can see. I do like my twinks.

Pretty much all View Talay buildings in the Jomtien area have an office on the first floor that does monthly condo rentals, with the exception of 2B.

Great innovation by the new owner...they're going to need a bigger bar!

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I visited Dodo Bar the last two nights since opening. They will have some different boys each night. The bar was packed with customers last night. An excellent addition to the entertainment available in the Jomtien Complex. 20230814_222316.mp4

Tis true. Though the context has evolved, the original post was a worthy question and remains an important topic that's been continually debated in the media. IMO, one applicable argument across all the indictments since @Luckys post is the scenario that when the justice system ignores criminal activity because the President was involved it invites the same criminal activity or worse under future election cycles and/or future administrations. I agree, (probably because I've read your posts), that Democrats need to talk about other things such as the economy, jobs, energy projects, other infrastructure projects and so on. And it seems Biden is doing that. But I expect the Fulton County indictments will bring a final blow, that will get discussed a lot, especially how Trump's crimes affected people like Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss. Their case is going to look undeniably bad for Trump. From how I understand the law in Georgia, people are going to serve time in jail if they don't flip on Trump. Back before any of the indictments, some of the talking heads speculated that Fulton County is where Trump will fall. Of course not everyone agrees and maybe I'm swept up in the drama, but to me it seems that the Trump team knows from Fulton County, if they don't win in 2024, he's fucked. .

The best Thai massages I've ever had were from the women, not so much the younger ones but more the mid aged and they do it well. As for the male massage shops, I take the massage as part of foreplay, good to relax a bit before the fun and sex starts but if the massage is good then that's a bonus.

Massage shops in Thailand are as ubiquitous as 7/11 stores and you find both everywhere. Shops with male staff would incline you to spoil experience by sinister motions so for real massage look for some store manned ( or I should say, womanned) by some grandmotherly ladies. They should have proper skills and technique.

DoDo Bar in the Complex now has some lads dancing in an air conditioned room. Not on a stage, but dancing in front of the customers. Very enjoyable and well worth a visit.

Do the smart thing and report him to YouTube for hateful conduct.

My take on these kind of people who do this for views and clicks, or the clout, as the new gen z slangs nowadays, is to simple ignore and not view them. They do it for view, which will translate to money, so any view we gave him is a support to his effort, whether u agree with him or not.

That's my approach!

Twenty-eight (28) consecutive days is the minimum duration for a legal Airbnb stay in Bangkok.

Same place. It's a convenience store; they strive to satisfy all your needs. 😀

I recall my only visit to Obelisks....it must have been more than two decades ago. it was the most luxurious sauna I've ever visited. However, as patron of Babylon where I could hardly get undressed before being molested (very welcome it was, too), Obelisks seemed to me to be decidedly "sticky rice". As a relative newcomer in the city, I was surprised. But it taught me that Babylon was sui generis when it come to falangs in BKK saunas, at least for us older guys.

Yes, it was a police raid that closed Obelisks for good and I think it was probably the first of Purachai's Social Order casualties. It was one of the first batch of gay saunas but located near Thonglor which made it a longish tuk tuk ride in those pre-Skytrain frightful traffic days. I did visit a few times in the late 1980s. It was a tall narrow building meaning you needed good leg muscles especially to get up the 10 floors to the very nice rooftop jacuzzi. There was a tiny lift that could squeeze in about 5 guys but if you'd just missed it you could wait ages for it. While it was more elegant than the earliest sauna I remember (Volt in a soi off Asoke in the mid-1980s), it did have a small restaurant, bar, gym and a tiny maze. But with floor areas being so small, it really was not on a par with the original Babylon. Also once Babylon opened, most tourists and farang could not be bothered going what seemed so far out when Babylon was all but on their doorstep. More than a decade later, for a while the other recently opened gay sauna Chakran on Soi Aree with its Moroccan theme, small pool and plenty of cruising areas became almost as popular as Babylon. It was certainly as beautifully laid out and very popular with the younger Thai crowd. After years of visiting the original Babylon, I never really took to the new larger version further down the soi. I then preferred Chakran which happily also welcomed foreigners. Sadly within a few years it had begun to change to being much more Thai-for-Thai/Asian. The original Babylon opened in 1988 in the building on the corner of Sathorn Soi 1/Soi Nantha-Mozart. Perhaps ironically much of that building is now occupied by the long-time French restaurant Le Bouchon which for decades was located on Patpong Soi 2 where many of the gay go-go bars can now be found! !t was founded by the son of a very rich family who wanted somewhere for professional gay Thais to relax away from the pressures of life for gay men in Bangkok at the time. The lobby had full-length glass cases filled with Thai antiques. The coffee shop had a guitarist or soft live music at the week-ends. All the staff seemed to me gorgeously handsome. Off the coffee shop was a massage room. Oh, the number of great times I had with Khun Gung who always seemed to be on duty there! I particularly enjoyed sitting having drinks at its rooftop bar watching so many cute guys pass back and forth in their towels from the showers at the end. It very quickly became so popular that on Friday and Saurday evenings there were always queues waiting to get in. For a few years, almost all were Thai. When word eventually got out, more farang started to discover its pleasures. As to your question about why Obelisks died yet the larger Babylon further down the soi remained open. Surely that had to be fat envelopes for the BIB! The Babylon owner had tons of cash. I doubt if Babylon ever made much if any profit, but he ran it more as a service to the gay community.

"Tops Daily?" Where would Bottoms go?

Most shops will also offer Thai massage but I wouldn't automatically assume all their masseurs are trained in the proper technique. You may wish to reserve at Prime Massage (on the dogleg turn of Silom Soi Six) where you can be assured of a good Thai experience. For the extras, you'll have better luck at the six shops on Soi Six between Silom rd. and Prime or the many other places you've read about here. If you're determined to get it all in one experience, tell the manager of the shop(s) you have in mind exactly what you're looking for.

An understandable conclusion. All I might add is that i believe that having been badly burned by this climbdown, Thailand Elite will find it difficult to play around with promised privileges again. It has too many professional members including lawyers and PR people who I think had a major effect on the recent reversal. If I was sure about Thailand, I'd jump in and get the 5 year visa at its present 600,000 baht before it is withdrawn, as this will give you the option of upgrading by 15 years for 400,000 provided it is done within 3 months of the expiry of the original visa. We now know that the new 5-year visa to be introduced in a month or two will cost 900,000. I also think there will be no option to increase at the end. A 5 year visa is stuck in to a full page in your passport. Same with the 15 year upgrade. So your basic immigration rights will not be affected. It's the perks that they seem to want to play around with. Against that, you will still be just 74 by the end of the 20 years. By then, I am certain Elite visas will be a great deal more expensive - assuming there are no more issues severely affecting the Thai economy. What would you plan to do then?

Shoppers may find that the costs of beer has risen a few baht since this article was first published. From The Thaiest.com Thai Beer is the most popular alcoholic drink in Thailand. There are a number of local beer brands that you can try in Thailand and the 3 major beer brands Singha, Leo and Chang are present all over the country. Here you will find an introduction to the most popular Thai beers and beer price in Thailand. Singha Singha beer is the first beer produced in Thailand and is one of the most popular beers in the country, brewed by the Boon Rawd Brewery. Singha is also the best known Thai beer outside of Thailand as it is exported to many foreign countries. It has been brewed since 1933 and many locals claim that it is the only real Thai beer. The name "Singha" is derived from the Sanskrit word for "lion" so you will see the white label representing a lion (Singha) from mythology in almost every bar or restaurant in Thailand. Singha lager version has 5% alcohol, but a 3.5% light version with a slightly bitter taste is also available. Singha Lager Draft Beer is delivered by the brewery in 30 liter barrels and has a more intense taste than the normal lager beer. Chang Chang beer (Elephant beer) was launched in 1995 by the breweries of Thai Beverage or just ThaiBev, one of the largest beverage companies in Southeast Asia, and is available nationwide. Chang brand is known for its logo with the 2 elephants looking at each other on the label of the green bottles. The beer is brewed from rice and has more tart taste than Singha. You can buy a can of this beer brand at the store for 35 THB. Singha is often a few baht more expensive than the other top beer brands in Thailand so it is mainly drunk by high-earning Thais and tourists. Perhaps that is why more budget travelers prefer Leo or Chang. The normal Chang beer (Chang Classic) has an alcohol content of 5.2% and it is currently the second most consumed beer in Thailand, taking approximately 33% share of the local beer market. The Chang Export is another classic lager with an alcohol content of 5% by volume. In contrast to the Classic, it is not brewed from rice but from malt. It is therefore a 100% malt beer. Other Chang varieties are Chang Draft with 5% alcohol content and Chang Light with 4.2% alcohol by volume. Chang beer has won the Australian Beer Award 3 times and is fresh, tasty and a bit like Kölsch, only stronger. Chang is most probably the most popular beer for tourists visiting Thailand. It is usually the cheapest of the best Thai beer brands on offer. The price of a can of Chang beer in the store is in the range of 30-35 THB. Leo Leo beer, currently the most admired beer in Thailand occupying about half of the local beer market, is also brewed by the Boon Rawd Brewery. Many beer enthusiasts are unaware that the same brewery owns Leo and Singha brands. The word Leo comes from the Greek and means lion. The label on the bottle shows a leopard (rather than a lion) staring at you. This Thai beer’s alcohol content is 5%. The taste is very similar to the older sister Singha, but the price has been wisely lowered. Leo is also served as a draft beer in pubs. Leo Beer price per bottle is 38-40 THB. The beer has received multiple awards and, like Chang, is very popular with Thais and foreigners.

I thought I’d watch some videos of The Complex on YouTube. I was shocked to see one done by Travel Viral under the heading of Jomtien Walking Street Supertown. He starts off by walking from the entrance near Double Shot, and saying here’s where the gays, fags, homos hang out. Then he asked the guys how much for boom boom. No one told him till he got to a massage place. Then one of the guys told him. Also in that area he was asking the guys if they are fags, and he must have used that word and faggot about ten times. Wow! Got my blood boiling! I can’t leave link because it’s on my premium tube I have on my smart tv. Maybe someone can link it. It’s about ten videos in, when you search Jomtien Complex. The guy looks about 35 and is Asian.

Are you baiting me? Stop it NOW! Lol! I have DROPBOX with unlimited storage. I guesssssssss I can give you a few more snippets of the various flavors brazil has to offer. Give me a few minutes, my trashy friend.

I suppose "Black beauty" is black.

Can you provide us with the link to any of his YouTube videos, or the name of his YouTube channel?

He's extremely obnoxious and very much "gay" himself yet suffering from an enormous amount of self hate and internalized homophobia that he has to project all that anger on guys much happier than he is. It seems that he is well known too that many try to ignore him?

Option 1 - Nope Option 2 - Said very little about Biden so nope Option 3 - Definitely. You forgot Unpatriotic. Glad to see you're accepting the truth at last.

I’m currently in Pattaya. I did two massages at Relax and both times the boy suggested FULL service. Both accepted 500. I wasn’t try to be cheap, although I’m normally cheap. Lol. It’s just that both times I happened to have only 500 left on me. Anyway I wasn’t really looking for sex, but sex did happen. They both cum.

He came across as a homophobic douchebag. "You should compliment me for bringing you here." 😵‍💫

Bill Clinton hasn't been President for 22 years. Hillary Clinton has never been president. Hunter Biden has never been president. Trump was a president 3 years ago and is trying to be president again. A jury has said he is a rapist and other juries soon will likely confirm that again. He's also a liar, a bully, a misogynist, a racist, anti-LGBTQ+, a white supremacist and a sociopath. I have no patience for Trump supporters "whataboutism's", this is who Trump is. The claims Biden or the DoJ are out to get him is complete rubbish. Grand Juries are "we the people" and it is they that say if there's evidence to support indictments. Trump was also involved in over 4000 court actions before he even ran for office so don't tell me its political rather than Trump being a career criminal. Trump and his cult are taking the US to a political precipice it may not survive in its current state. If Trump survives the indictments and somehow becomes president again then the next 4 years are going to be zero progress and 4 years of revenge, mostly on innocent people simply doing the job they've been given or elected to do. If Trump goes to jail, or loses then the Maga cult are not going to accept that and there will be blood.

If you want a massage, you can go get that in your homeland. This is Thailand... TIT The Americanism of "Happy Ending" has been in Thai culture for hundreds of years( maybe more, any history legends? ) It started way before American war criminals arrived in SEA. Leave your western ideas at the terminal you leave from. Choose someone you like the look of, and go with it. It's impossible to plan a trip to who is going to shove their thumb in your back.... Or backside.

From Thai PBS World By Nguyen Thi Dieu Linh One of Vietnam’s most historic towns, Hue, is packed with relics from the reign of the 19th-century Nguyen emperors. From 1802 to 1945, Hue was the capital of Vietnam and home to the Nguyen dynasty. After the Vietnam War, Hue’s unique history fell into ruin, as the imperial era wasn’t viewed favorably by the communist authorities. These days, however, the temples and landmarks of the city are national treasures, attracting millions of visitors every year. Hue Citadel is one of the must-see attractions in the city. The citadel was the residence of ancient kings, as well as the place where the political activities of the Nguyen Dynasty took place for 143 years. The ancient capital of Hue was recognized by UNESCO as a World Cultural Heritage in 1993. In the list of 7 UNESCO World Heritage sites in Vietnam are: Ha Long Bay Phong Nha – Ke Bang National Park Imperial Citadel of Thang Long Ho Dynasty Citadel Hue Citadel Hoi An Ancient Town My Son Sanctuary The Hue Citadel is a symbol and the pride of the people of Hue and it has long been a must-see attraction for tourists when visiting the hidden charms of Vietnam. The Imperial Citadel of Hue consists of the Imperial Citadel and the Forbidden Purple City, both of which are located within that area. When you visit, you will be able to admire over 100 unique and impressive architectural works, including the Ngo Mon Gate, the Thai Hoa Palace, the Dien Tho Palace, the Kien Trung Palace, the Phung Tien Palace, the Truong Sanh Palace, Hung Mieu and the Mieu. They all contribute to the palace’s unique architectural beauty while preserving the heroic historical imprints of the Nguyen dynasty. Hue Citadel has a circumference of 10km, a height of 6.6m and a thickness of 21m, with winding fortresses accompanied by cannons, artillery and ammunition depots. The fortress was originally built entirely of earth, but bricks were added later. A network of interlaced canals surrounds the city to protect not only the city, but also a waterway which is nearly 7km long. The Imperial Citadel is divided into two major parts, excluding houses and mansions: the Citadel and the Forbidden City. The former protected the important palaces within, while the latter housed the emperor and royal family, as well as serving as the court’s workplace. All of the traditional architecture of the East, such as palaces, mausolea and museums, coexist to form a fascinating attraction right in the heart of Vietnam. If you have the opportunity to visit Hue during a festival, you will often see the ancient mossy roof covered in shimmering and fanciful lights from the Ngo Mon gate.

Doesn't hurt.....unless the bend/stretch it too much...

OP wants real Thai massage, erector won't be helping in the process

The Hue Citadel is a beautiful place to visit. In the countryside surrounding Hue, there are the royal tombs of 7 (I think) emperors & I enjoyed seeing them as well.

Sure to keep the chance of an erection at zero....

One favourite that is definitely gone was located at the corner of Soi Twilight and Suriwong Road. The number of times I patronised that place, sometimes with boy de la nuit in tow! But seriously, I wonder why Family Mart outlets have so drastically declined in number when 7-11s have grown. I've never found any real difference between the two chains; I'd go to whichever was nearer. Were other customers choosier, I wonder? Causing Family Mart to do worse per store than 7-11?

Neo is one of my favourites. I remember him in a BL (the name escapes me right now) where he was completely chaotic, but so so funny.

So me sitting here in the UK at 54 year of age and with no real plan to retire to Thailand but thinking "but maybe, some day that might happen and so why apply for an Elite NOW ( fast) and also immediately upgrade it to the 20 year option just to keep the option open". BUT on reading this thread then also realising that the Elite visa office / Thai Government could ( and probably will) move the goalposts again at ANY time and many times over that period, with as PeterRS has already pointed out zero regard for existing holders (as they seem to be doing already here) so now thinking "so what's the point in risking that money". and I'd just be better letting things roll and deal with things as they are a the time I'd ever think of moving there - or am I wrong ?

Well! Well! Well! After Thailand Elite decided just 3 weeks ago that ordinary members with their 5 year Easy Access membership would have the right to upgrade by 15 more years for a further 500,000 baht (or 400,000 for those who had paid the increased 600,000 initial fee introduced last year) and gave members a strict deadline of 4:30pm today, there was a near riot among members. The addtional implication that the cash had to be transferred to Thailand Elite on the same date and time created more havoc as many members are on family vacations outide the country. Later, it was announced the payment could be delayed by around 3 months. Now, on this the deadline day for applications, Thailand Elite has finally realised its actions gave not only ridiculously short notice, they may have been illegal. Accordingly, today within hours of the deadline an email letter has been sent from the company running the scheme, Thailand Privilege Company, admitting it had upset many members. Therefore, it has changed the prevously announced policy. Easy Access 5 year members will now not have to decide whether or not to upgrade until three months prior to the end of their current membership period. In my case, that means I can delay a decision until April 2025. After all the shenanigans of having to transfer cash, fill in a mutitude of forms and obtain other photocopies and photos in order to meet today's deadline, this is not only a huge slap in the face to current members, it is a massive climbdown by TPC. As one contributor to the Thailand Elite Visa Members Group wrote, "Clowns!"

This thread is just about six months old. It's interesting that the indictments started with the weakest one and have now, in effect, saved the best for last. The Jan. 6th indictment is about a complicated conspiracy centered on Trump. But the picture most Americans have in their mind is MAGA supporters jubilantly and patriotically breaking the skulls and bones of police defending democracy. It's in large part about the ugliness, lies, and divisiveness of many of Trump's MAGA followers. This next one is all about Trump, Trump, and Trump. Donald Trump's lies. Donald Trump's corruption. Donald Trump's loathing of democracy. You can hate a conservative Republican Governor and a conservative Republican Secretary of State for defending democracy. And some MAGA extremists will. Raffensberger and his family will probably get more death threats. But most Americans will hear the clear smoking gun, the clear lies, and the clear contempt for democracy. Play the tape every day between now and Election Day. And, yes, do the Divine Miss Graham's hair up so she looks pretty when she defends her actions. If that's possible. 😯 I know this is a thread on Trump's indictments. But I'm glad Democrats won't be talking about that. They'll be talking about this instead. Democrats’ climate law set off a wave of energy projects in GOP districts. A backlash followed. While Trump is talking about stealing votes in Georgia and how he really, truly, awfully really, definitely, for sure thought he won the 2020 election, let Democrats debate how many jobs they created in red states. Did I mention unemployment is at a 50 year low? Did I mention how the "misery index" is lower than when Biden beat Trump? Let's talk about that while Trump defends his sorry lying corrupt ass. That article is actually a very nice summary of the complex political dynamics. Money flowing into deindustrialized and rural areas. Republicans who hate the law but love the global investment in America and US factory jobs it's creating. Michigan residents arguing that, uh, what's good for Ford Motor and Michigan factory jobs is good for the Communist Party of China. That's at least an honest debate. Democrats crushed it in Michigan last year on a platform of making government work for people and defending our rights. This will help Biden win Michigan in 2024, fair and square.

Not that I disagree but I have impression that they are not as bad as we think. Last trip I was domesticated at Quarter SalaDaeng ( former Siri Sathorn) for 9 days, quite a walk from the scene and there was no problem walking them there or walking them from there to say Sizzler on Silom.

Good to confirm you're a tourist. Many think otherwise. The fact you think people "choose" to stay in their line of work in relation to Westerners preferred travel times is non-logical. Not all of them go to find other work before harvest season. Some of them have nothing else. Easy to overlook for some. I'm not for a second suggesting anyone should stop understanding the "GAME". The boys don't. But giving them numbers and letters in weird blog posts. Well... As I said before. Maybe start marking them again. Must be a cultural thing in your country. Some things never die. I have met you ( Yes I met you 6 years ago ) and saw you a few months ago, but never have I met a person so cold hearted in my life. Next time you walk through Jomtien Complex have the balls to stop. Come meet some of my friends. Bar boys. We go eat. We go to markets. Shit, sometimes they pay for the food. Appears to me it doesn't matter how much time you spend in Thailand, or how much of the language you learn, you can still be a pest.

There is also a porn theatre just to the left of Sexy Rose. Mostly older guys, so keep your expectations low, but when it's hot the theatre is super hot. There is some pay for pay at the theatre, often around 20 RS, but quality varies. I have been to both places noon-1700 hrs ish before 117 or 202. Sexy Rose gets many guys mid 20s-40s, but none seem to be pay for play. There is another porn theatre near centro, but I have not been there in years. As for cruising bars, there is supposed to be a good one in centro, but you might have to try a net search to find it. Meio Mundo gets bad reviews from punters I met at 117 or 202 a few months ago. The gay bars and clubs of Ipanema late night party fame seem to be no more. I posted on a club on the Aproador side of Copa previously, but it was mostly for drinking and dancing, not pay for play. Same is true for the clubs at the Leme end of Copa. You might try various phone apps like grindr or scruff; might be others. Hunqz (?spelling), planet romeo, garotos.com, etc for website shopping. I seemed to do ok on grindr, including for free sex with younger guys, and yes, some guys who tried to hustle me as well. I do speak some PT which helps. I am no model, but not an eye sore either, and sometimes get great non paid sex with average younger guys. Of course, for the hunky guys, it's pay for play at 117 or 202. Given the several love motel murders in the past year, safety is an issue. I have used the one in Copa towards the Fort end. There is another in Cinelandia that I have not used. About 100 RS, I think for an hour or so. That said, I have done grindr hook ups at the other person's place multiple times. Mind you, no drugs and I am not drinking at the time either. I carry my own water and usually leave soon after we are done.

bar staff heard and saw it all and more so I'd not be concerned about being laughing stock , actually it would be good idea to show pictures like above to boy who takes your fancy to show what you are looking for. My guess even is they may like it. I off mostly better built boys and l found they are into that kinds of games - my favorite is when in the middle of the night boy wants to get a drink or go tho the loo and I say no problem , go, while still holding to him tightly and a bit of struggle follows, they always win but get idea what I like so my advice is , don't be shy, just do it

Well, ronnie, I might agree that every time I go to the go-go bars the harder it gets.