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Well! Well! Well! After Thailand Elite decided just 3 weeks ago that ordinary members with their 5 year Easy Access membership would have the right to upgrade by 15 more years for a further 500,000 baht (or 400,000 for those who had paid the increased 600,000 initial fee introduced last year) and gave members a strict deadline of 4:30pm today, there was a near riot among members. The addtional implication that the cash had to be transferred to Thailand Elite on the same date and time created more havoc as many members are on family vacations outide the country. Later, it was announced the payment could be delayed by around 3 months. Now, on this the deadline day for applications, Thailand Elite has finally realised its actions gave not only ridiculously short notice, they may have been illegal. Accordingly, today within hours of the deadline an email letter has been sent from the company running the scheme, Thailand Privilege Company, admitting it had upset many members. Therefore, it has changed the prevously announced policy. Easy Access 5 year members will now not have to decide whether or not to upgrade until three months prior to the end of their current membership period. In my case, that means I can delay a decision until April 2025. After all the shenanigans of having to transfer cash, fill in a mutitude of forms and obtain other photocopies and photos in order to meet today's deadline, this is not only a huge slap in the face to current members, it is a massive climbdown by TPC. As one contributor to the Thailand Elite Visa Members Group wrote, "Clowns!"

DoDo Bar in the Complex now has some lads dancing in an air conditioned room. Not on a stage, but dancing in front of the customers. Very enjoyable and well worth a visit.

From Thai PBS World By Nguyen Thi Dieu Linh One of Vietnam’s most historic towns, Hue, is packed with relics from the reign of the 19th-century Nguyen emperors. From 1802 to 1945, Hue was the capital of Vietnam and home to the Nguyen dynasty. After the Vietnam War, Hue’s unique history fell into ruin, as the imperial era wasn’t viewed favorably by the communist authorities. These days, however, the temples and landmarks of the city are national treasures, attracting millions of visitors every year. Hue Citadel is one of the must-see attractions in the city. The citadel was the residence of ancient kings, as well as the place where the political activities of the Nguyen Dynasty took place for 143 years. The ancient capital of Hue was recognized by UNESCO as a World Cultural Heritage in 1993. In the list of 7 UNESCO World Heritage sites in Vietnam are: Ha Long Bay Phong Nha – Ke Bang National Park Imperial Citadel of Thang Long Ho Dynasty Citadel Hue Citadel Hoi An Ancient Town My Son Sanctuary The Hue Citadel is a symbol and the pride of the people of Hue and it has long been a must-see attraction for tourists when visiting the hidden charms of Vietnam. The Imperial Citadel of Hue consists of the Imperial Citadel and the Forbidden Purple City, both of which are located within that area. When you visit, you will be able to admire over 100 unique and impressive architectural works, including the Ngo Mon Gate, the Thai Hoa Palace, the Dien Tho Palace, the Kien Trung Palace, the Phung Tien Palace, the Truong Sanh Palace, Hung Mieu and the Mieu. They all contribute to the palace’s unique architectural beauty while preserving the heroic historical imprints of the Nguyen dynasty. Hue Citadel has a circumference of 10km, a height of 6.6m and a thickness of 21m, with winding fortresses accompanied by cannons, artillery and ammunition depots. The fortress was originally built entirely of earth, but bricks were added later. A network of interlaced canals surrounds the city to protect not only the city, but also a waterway which is nearly 7km long. The Imperial Citadel is divided into two major parts, excluding houses and mansions: the Citadel and the Forbidden City. The former protected the important palaces within, while the latter housed the emperor and royal family, as well as serving as the court’s workplace. All of the traditional architecture of the East, such as palaces, mausolea and museums, coexist to form a fascinating attraction right in the heart of Vietnam. If you have the opportunity to visit Hue during a festival, you will often see the ancient mossy roof covered in shimmering and fanciful lights from the Ngo Mon gate.

An understandable conclusion. All I might add is that i believe that having been badly burned by this climbdown, Thailand Elite will find it difficult to play around with promised privileges again. It has too many professional members including lawyers and PR people who I think had a major effect on the recent reversal. If I was sure about Thailand, I'd jump in and get the 5 year visa at its present 600,000 baht before it is withdrawn, as this will give you the option of upgrading by 15 years for 400,000 provided it is done within 3 months of the expiry of the original visa. We now know that the new 5-year visa to be introduced in a month or two will cost 900,000. I also think there will be no option to increase at the end. A 5 year visa is stuck in to a full page in your passport. Same with the 15 year upgrade. So your basic immigration rights will not be affected. It's the perks that they seem to want to play around with. Against that, you will still be just 74 by the end of the 20 years. By then, I am certain Elite visas will be a great deal more expensive - assuming there are no more issues severely affecting the Thai economy. What would you plan to do then?

So me sitting here in the UK at 54 year of age and with no real plan to retire to Thailand but thinking "but maybe, some day that might happen and so why apply for an Elite NOW ( fast) and also immediately upgrade it to the 20 year option just to keep the option open". BUT on reading this thread then also realising that the Elite visa office / Thai Government could ( and probably will) move the goalposts again at ANY time and many times over that period, with as PeterRS has already pointed out zero regard for existing holders (as they seem to be doing already here) so now thinking "so what's the point in risking that money". and I'd just be better letting things roll and deal with things as they are a the time I'd ever think of moving there - or am I wrong ?

Booking.com is one of the world's leading internet travel booking sites, including in its portfolio Agoda, Kayak, Hotelscombined, Priceline and other sites. It operates in 220+ countries in 40+ languages. In 2022 it's worldwide gross travel bookings were US$121.3 billion. Like many travel sites, it collects cash from bookers and later passes these on to their accommodation clients after deduction of commissions and fees. Now, though, it has been accused of not paying quite a number of accommodation providers. One in the UK is owed £50,000 for rentals of several properties. He claims thousands of others around the world are also suffering from delayed payments. Another renter had failed to receive any income after being promised payment five times. A statement from booking.com claims it is "urgently working to resume payments, which were delayed as a result of a planned system maintenance." Well, believe that if you wish! It further claims the majority of "partners" have been paid on time but "in a small number of cases, there have been unforeseen technical issues that are quickly being resolved." And believe that if you wish! https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leicestershire-66459808?xtor=AL-72-[partner]-[bbc.news.twitter]-[headline]-[news]-[bizdev]-[isapi]&at_format=link&at_link_origin=BBCNews&at_link_id=4326623C-3776-11EE-B378-0FFC5B3BE886&at_campaign=Social_Flow&at_medium=social&at_campaign_type=owned&at_link_type=web_link&at_ptr_name=twitter&at_bbc_team=editorial I recently booked a 5-star hotel in Taipei at the lowest rate i could find through a company I had never booked through before - Klook. This is a relatively new Hong Kong based startup and I was slightly concerned about the booking. An email to the hotel confirmed everything was in order. Klook has a number of impressive investors including Goldman Sachs and Softbank. From a quick check, its rates are also competitive with Agoda.

The Hue Citadel is a beautiful place to visit. In the countryside surrounding Hue, there are the royal tombs of 7 (I think) emperors & I enjoyed seeing them as well.

Guilty as charged

Maintenance man

In all my dozens of visits to Singapore I have had the same thought. In my case, though, it would be expense. Assuming there is ever a way around the visa issue, no way could I afford to live there. Although it is around 5 years since my last trip, I have always found it extremely cruisy with some of the best looking guys in Asia. But there is also something about the attitude of Singaporeans in general. None that I know seem particularly happy there. Too much of the nanny state is a common complaint. I have read many of the books on the Vietnam War and remain horrified at how that country suffered. Yet i only started visiting Vietnam a few years ago. Loved Hanoi, disliked HCMC, adored the island of Phu Quoc and had a ball in the central area of Danang, Hoi An and Hue. There used to be a long term visa and I know of someone then in Chiang Mai who had purchased a seaside home near Danang for retirement. Then the long stay visa was withdrawn. He is now back in Australia and extremely unhappy. If the visa situation changed, I would certainly consider the country.

I had considered a move to Thailand at some stage and was looking at the 20 year elite visa but after what I read about the changes that is no longer an option, retirement visa was also an option but I have read there are rumblings that the new government (if it ever forms up) could well be cracking down on that visa (no doubt a crackdown on the agents etc). I have also looked elsewhere, no real interest in Laos or Cambodia, Malaysia is a distant possibility but I have some doubts, I would love to live in Singapore but a lack of long term visas makes that a non starter and much the same for Vietnam and their lack of long term visas. That really leaves 3 options, stay home in Australia and just visit but visit more often, Thailand and risk a retirement visa or the Philippines. Visa wise the Philippines is relatively easy and has been on my radar for some time now but the infrastructure there sucks in comparison to Thailand. Health wise my choice of place to live in the Philippines is a long bus trip away from Manila (at least 5hrs depending on traffic) so would be relying on local hospitals in case of emergency and I would say private health insurance would be a must to get into the good hospitals like St Lukes in Bonifacio Global City or Makati Medical center. The thinking cap is on and visa wise I am keeping a keen eye on what's happening, also continuing to buy lotto tickets just in hope.

From Thai PBS World Thailand has reported its first monkey pox related fatality, in a man who was also infected with HIV and syphilis, according to Dr. Tares Krassanairawiwong, director-general of the Disease Control Department. He said today (Monday) that the 34-year old patient was admitted to a private hospital in Chon Buri province on July 3rd and was diagnosed with monkey pox a week later. The patient subsequently developed a sore throat and was found to have a fungal infection, an opportunistic disease found in those with HIV. After 4 weeks of treatment, he was discharged from the hospital, but was later sent to Bamrasnaradura Institute of Infectious Diseases sufferingfrom fatigue and breathing difficulties. In addition to rashes, doctors also found that he was suffering with lung and brain infections. Blood tests showed a high white blood cell count, an indicator of a serious immune reaction, and doctors administered antibiotics and monkey pox anti-viral medication. The man died last Friday, said Dr. Tares. By August 8th, there had been a total of 189 monkey pox cases reported in Thailand in 161 Thais and 28 foreigners. Most are gay men, 82 of whom were also infected with HIV. Dr. Sophon Iamsirithavorn, the deputy director-general of the Disease Control Department, attributed the increase inmonkey pox cases to high risk behaviour.

ok, now i know you arent going to believe half of whats in this reports but you know a bitch will have her receipts attached at the end. So we got to sdq and my barber husband had been texting me weeks prior because he knew i was due in town soon. he and i have become very comfortable together because he always sends me this silly ass dancing emojis when he knows im coming to town. he had the date wrong and thought i was coming to town a week earlier than i actually was. when i finally arrived to town i sent him my location and he came over with some girl he had intended to fukc while i watched. i told him no she had to leave because the first time would be between me and him. he politely asked her to leave, then went to the fridge grabbed a beer and followed me into the bedroom. i had some music playing from my phone, he took off his clothes to shower and then started dancing to the music. mainly swinging his big dominican dick around being silly and making us both laugh. after he showered he climbed in the bed and watched the straight video i was playing for his enjoyment. i had begun to suck his dick until it got hard and then we started to have sex. within about 10 minutes he spewed his load, cleaned up and left. later on that night i had gone over to marlowes. it was kind of slow but it was a wednesday night so i didnt expect much. i asked the guard outside were there any big dicks inside because i like really big dick. the guard told me to go inside and see. i walked inside and into the back. i realized they had sex booths in the back and a lil lounge area with a couch and some guys were sitting down with their dicks out. i wasnt really impressed so i left and told the guard goodnight. there was a haitian guy standing there and as i walked away he said "you looking for a big dick" i turned and said yeah do you have one. he proceeds to pull out his phone and shows me a pic of his dick. omg it was hugeeeee and thick. i told him to get me his whatsapp and i would call him in 30 minutes to come over to the apartment. when i got to the apartment i cleaned my insides and texted him to tell him that if his dick doesnt get rock hard, i will only pay him 10 dollars. our agreed upon price was 50 dollars. he told me not to worry and that his dick would stay hard. well he came over asked for a beer, dropped his pants and his big haitian dick was mid thigh. you will see in the pictures that im not exaggerating. the only thing i didnt like about this guy is that he wouldnt go easy when trying to put his dick in me. he always tried to ram it inside me even when i requested that he take it easy. once he got his dick in me he started speaking creole. this drove me crazy. his dick was so beautiful and full. after our session, i told him that i would like to hire him 3 times each day we were there. he said, fine call and let me know when. our water had stopped running in our apartment so the owner of the apartment sent this sexy ass maintenance man to fix the water. when i opened the door i stood in front of him and told him how beautiful he was. this guy had a nicest leanest body and a model face to match. after he fixed the water i asked his to come back to the apartment so i could give him a massage and he told me no because its against the rules with his boss. i told him his boss wouldnt know so he should come over and make the money. he told me no. i sent him a picture of the money and he replied, youre going to give me 60 dollars just to massage my body. i told him, i would need a little more but we will start with the massage. he actually came back because he needed to check on the water. when he checked on the water, i had the money in my hand and i asked what he wanted to do. he walked to the back bedroom pulled down his pant and i sucked his dick. about a minute later my husband walked in and started to suck his nipples. i then grabbed a condom and rode his dick until he unloaded his huge nutt.. there is much more to this story but i have to get to work at my new job. will finish later.

From Pattaya News Bidding farewell to Thailand, the iconic “Family Mart” convenience stores is being fully rebranded as “Tops Daily” after over three decades of service. Central Retail Corporation PLC (CRC) has made the decision to fully transform and rename its iconic Family Mart convenience stores to Tops Daily by the end of this year. This strategic move comes as CRC’s contract for the Family Mart franchise in Thailand is set to expire in 2023. The rebranding aims to align and streamline CRC’s convenience store business under the Tops Daily banner, CRC’s chief operating officer, Maytinee Phisutsinthop stated. The number of FamilyMart branches in Thailand has declined drastically from 1,135 in 2017 to 409 in 2023. In contrast, its primary business rival, 7-Eleven, has more than 13,000 branches.

Sure to keep the chance of an erection at zero....

I prefer the new name 😁

I've frequently used Booking.com. We are given choices to make: accept a "no cancellation" option, which requires payment in advance; or, accept a slightly higher price with the right to cancel the reservation shortly prior to the arrival date. This latter option requires no advance payment; you pay the lodging directly, upon arrival. I've always chosen the option where I can cancel if necessary and have never been asked to pay in advance; I pay the hotel directly upon arrival. Properties set the conditions of accepting reservations via Booking.com, and there are variances. Because of my own experiences using Booking.com, I will continue to use the service.

Most shops will also offer Thai massage but I wouldn't automatically assume all their masseurs are trained in the proper technique. You may wish to reserve at Prime Massage (on the dogleg turn of Silom Soi Six) where you can be assured of a good Thai experience. For the extras, you'll have better luck at the six shops on Soi Six between Silom rd. and Prime or the many other places you've read about here. If you're determined to get it all in one experience, tell the manager of the shop(s) you have in mind exactly what you're looking for.

From Thai PBS World Election Commission recommended to drop charge against Pita An investigating committee has recommended the Election Commission to drop the charge that Move Forward party leader Pita Limjaroenrat violated the election law for allegedly holding shares in a media firm while filing candidacy in the May-14 election. According to an informed source at the Election Commission (EC), the committee found there is no clear evidence that iTV was operating and earning income at the time when Pita applied for his election candidacy in early April. The committee pointed out that, in order to disqualify Pita, in accordance with Section 151 of the Election Act, evidence that he still held shares in the media company must be clear and beyond any doubt. The committee’s findings and recommendation have been sent to the secretary-general of the Election Commission, said the source, adding that the case will then be forwarded to a sub-committee for consideration, when Pita may be asked to testify to the panel. The source also said that the panel may delay the case until there is a ruling from the Constitutional Court on Pita’s parliamentary status as relates to the iTV share ownership. Pita was reported to hold 42,000 shares in iTV, inherited from his late father over 17 years ago. The shares were transferred to his relatives in June this year.

In the main room, when the main lights are off, it is not pitch dark at all since some lights are still on and all action is clearly visible. The dark room is not pitch dark as it is in some clubs (such as in Mansion in Lapa). I do not do bareback neither. The safest solution I found is to fuck the model. I am sure to wear a new properly installed condom. Rsrsrs

And how do we get access to this video 😘

My only very negative experience in Thailand was being pick-pocketed by a ladyboy on a baht-bus. Realised almost immediately she got off the baht-bus and the driver started moving but too late, she was gone. I now use zipped rather than velcro pockets in my shorts. Live and learn.

Since 2008 Pattaya has installed 2,418 cctv security cameras. Yet the lifespan of the cameras was designed for 7 years. Should we therefore be surprised that in November 2021 the Pattaya Mayor admitted that only 43.8% of them actually worked? Many condos have their own cctv coverage. Perhaps the incident with the Russian lady was covered by one of them. As for the rest of Thailand, I can only find some details about Bangkok. Early last year the Bangkok Governor informed the public that an additional 62,000 cctv cameras had been installed around the capital. Then later last year, the Police Chief admitted another 23,000 new devices had been installed to cover the APEC Conference. It is doubted these were thereafter removed. The only other information I can find is that 20,000 were installed by the end of 2012 and a further 27,000 by the end of 2014. Whether they work or not I have no idea, although many were found not to be working after the bombing at the Erawan Shrine in August 2015. There is one rather general article stating that in 2018 there were public 360,000 cctv cameras around the country. https://aseannow.com/topic/1239479-pattaya-less-than-half-of-cctv-cameras-actually-work-city-hall-prepares-200-million-budget-and-new-charter/ https://thethaiger.com/news/bangkok/bangkok-officials-install-more-than-62000-security-cameras-around-the-capital https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/1394934/push-to-fix-integrate-security-cameras

This one is right around the corner from you: https://goo.gl/maps/qaRJWjcCsJ9vVhM79 I checked it out online but ended up using one of the massage houses elsewhere. The Republica area is verrrry dicey but it changes block by block.

Here is the text thread between my Haitian husband and myself. When he first came to the apartment, I wasn't sure If I was really into him. He was very playful. His playfulness actually loosened up the mood and helped us to get comfortable with each other more quickly. On the 2nd day he was actually sitting in the living room drinking beer and watching SUITS on Netflix with my husband and i. His voice is so deep and sexy and his sex is MAGICAL. because he lived so close to the apartment we were renting he was able to get to the apartment quickly.

1 block in the wrong direction, puts you in trouble. Speaking from experience, 2 times........

Thank you - I find the idea of checking out the guys while they play snooker in towels, which one would hope would slip from time to time - rather appealing! 🤭

Much much better than Bangu (and closer)

Generally speaking, you are right. In Hot House, it is total interaction and what I saw twice was real total interaction, not only walking, turning and jumping around. All interactive boys these days went to the back room and were fucked by customers or fucked customers. This might not happen with all models I guess. The interactive show starts at 2 am, so only the motivated customers are still there. When the light went off the saturday I was there, 5 or 6 patrons came to the models, sucking, rimming, licking and cuddling them. As a matter of fact, patrons were almost all between 30 and 45. I am pretty sure the models may decline some sex actions or sex action with some customers. As for the cute model Arthur Mondero who attended the interactive sex live show in 117, I did use his tight little ass. These shows in 117 were called "quartas intençoes" and were performed on wednesday nites. They did not last long, maybe a few months. They were organized by Ramiro who now moved to 555 in SP. Maybe he will organize same interactive shows there ...

I am using Chrome with no problems but, yes, I tried using MS Edge & got the 'This site has been reported as unsafe' message.

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Was asked if I wanted anything extra and I agreed to the 30e being asked. There was no discussion of what I might or might not get for the 30e.

@Mavica I've worked with some Filipinos and at their house or a restaurant, when we clear the table, I put plates on top of each other to make it easier, and they freak...no no no, don't do that.....bad luck.

I use Safari on all devices and have never seen any warnings.

What I believe is happening is that malware is likely attempting to attack your computer by luring you to click on commands, such as "Report' afrer which a virus will infect your computer. The warnings make no sense for this particular site and appwar to me to be a hoax. Don't click on any command. I've never received a similar warning.

Don't get out much, do you?

I found him to be genuine and caring. In fact all of the guys there seemed amenable. I had had only one previous experience with a Tawan bodybuilder, several years ago, but he seemed to be in it only for the money. I was much more satisfied this time round.

I said it over five years ago and several times since: trip and venue reports are the meat and potatoes of this forum. But readers also repeatedly show their appetite for controversy. On July 27 I posted this is the "I went to dream boys last night and drinks price is horrendous" thread: "The most popular posts within the forum invariably relate to trip reports and venue reports. Readers have also displayed a taste for controversy, Take this thread, for example. Although it was started only a few months ago, it's attracted 5.3k views and received 132 replies. (And those numbers only count views by logged on members; not the many many non-members who view the site)." In the three weeks since then, that thread has gone on to log 7.2 thousand views and 167 replies. That is one of the great benefits of this forum: members--for whatever reason--pick up one theme and feel free to run with it. Sure, it soon gets off topic but opinions and information are exchanged in the process. I post a lot of stuff I understand has limited interest to those seeking only sex-related information. I look for items in Thai politics, crime and generalized Southeast Asia travel and current events. Those without interest simply pass it by. I believe that's how it's suppose to work. But there still plenty of posts here for those who want their meat and potatoes without appetizer or dessert. 🙂

Way back in the mid-1990s when I decided I should start thinking about where I might eventually wish to retire and consider purchasing a small condo, I looked more closely at several of the Asian countries. I had been in love with much of the continent since 1979 and already knew several countries extremely well. One factor was wherever I chose, it had to be within relatively easy flying time of Hong Kong where I expected to continue running my own small company for the first 2 decades of the new century. Eventually i narrowed the options down to 2 - Kuala Lumpur and Bangkok. At one moment of near madness I considered Penang. When the Asian Economic crisis hit, developers were left with large blocks of unsold ocean-facing apartments just off the road between Georgetown and the main beach area at Batu Ferringhi. These were all but being given away. But I knew I could easily end up becoming something of a beach bum and resisted the temptation. Yet KL was a city I really enjoyed then. Much less so now. Thankfully therefore I chose Bangkok which I knew extremely well. The Asian Economic crisis took 3 years before it hit Hong Kong. When it did, it experienced its worst recession since WWII. The finances of my company crashed. I could no longer afford actually to live there and so I decided to relocate to my Bangkok apartment and just commute. (Anyone who has tried to open a small service business working internationally in Thailand is aware that the regulations are a minefield - hence I had no intention of relocating the business here). I even found I enjoyed the regular monthly commuting and so did not bother to relocate back to Hong Kong after business finally picked up after SARS in 2003/04. The one city that I now kick myself was never on my radar was Taipei. I had been frequently in the city since the last year of marital law in 1986/87. A small gay scene had started developing by the mid-1990s but the city was very different from the one we know today. Sadly, it has also become considerably more expensive, especially in terms of real estate. I did think about a move there about 7 years ago. Now it would be too much of a financial stretch. I may well end up just staying in Thailand. But just the thought that a complete break with a move back to Europe and the possibility of continuing to explore so many more parts of that fascinating continent has given me a bit of a buzz. I do know two people who have moved there, one a good friend from Hong Kong who had been living with a boyfriend in Auckland for 15 years before they split up. He wanted to come and live in Chiang Mai but is not yet of an age where he could get a retirement visa. So friends persuaded him to move to Portugal. He enjoys it a lot.

I've been to both places, Lisbon more. Nice to visit, wouldn't want to live there was my takeaway. I'm aware it's been on many people's places to retire list, bit don't know anyone personally that has. I speak the language and still couldn't see myself living there..... as I recall, not a lot of English speaking locals....can't imagine you being happy there. Any other options in Asia possible for you? I wrote about a Thai guy that worked on cruise ships that left to come live in Texas with me.....once he realized how exotic and popular he was outside of Thailand, he started fucking around. I told him , fly be free....I let him do his thing and let him go. Keep this in your mind.........

I,d never retire in Thailand for simple reason - living there permanently deprives one chance of travelling there, one of biggest treats in life.

See my post above. My opinion: too much hassle to get your own SIM card with just a short trip. It’d be much easier to get GoogleFi, or if you have certain plans with AT&T, you get free roaming in Latin America, including Brazil. Chili Peppers in São Paulo is a good option. You will have no problems getting laid there as they cater to all types. You probably won’t encounter the adonises of the GP saunas tho if you are not one yourself (as it is not a pay for play sauna), but it is a fun distraction regardless. Just be careful, it is in a sketchy neighborhood. Don’t pull out your cell after getting off the Uber, and call the Uber in the waiting area in the sauna till it arrives. I don’t do poppers, so can’t help you there. I wont chance putting it on your luggage, as the Alfândega might get you at the airport (tho rare). If you get on GRindr, certain sellers will approach you if you are a gringo. Can’t say this is reputable, but there is that chance. The Heritage allows GPs from my experience, and very walkable to the sauna, so good choice.

Re: the original question… my answer is always: I’m currently in Rio, and I was just in SP, and have been alternating both cities (since 2018? Has it been that long) ever since I’ve decided to give Brazil a try. If it were me, and I just had one week to spend in Brazil a year, I’d fly into São Paulo and arrive on a Friday and spend the weekend there, and hop on a plane (or a bus) to Rio during the week, and finish out your trip back in SP for another weekend. I have found that certain days are always busy (Friday and Saturday, for example), but Mondays seem to be weirdly amazing as well. My take, from recent weeks being here: Fridays: Lagoa (SP) is better than the Rio saunas (117 or 202 are both good as well, but sometimes oddly a toss up, as one is better than the other, or both the same on Fridays) Saturdays: Lagoa (SP) is oddly better than any of the Rio saunas on Saturdays. Why is that? Sundays: Slow day, but an odd choice would be 555 in São Paulo. Ramiro is there now and they are trying to get Sunday to happen for 555. Lagoa is horrendous on Sundays with karaoke (ugh why have this), and recently has started to empty out after 7 PM due to 555 having bingo nights on Sunday. Rio has 117 as an only option, and even then it is slow. Mondays: Point (Rio) is oddly good on Mondays. Lagoa (SP) is also good. I find this odd but maybe boys get more day workers come to the sauna? 117 is closed. Meio Mundo is an option in Rio, but it is not for me. Tuesdays: 117 (Rio) would be your pick here. Point is closed. Lagoa is slow. Wednesdays: Point (Rio) is a hit or a miss on this day but mostly a hit. 117 is super slow, and Lagoa will be better. Thursdays: Lagoa will be infinitely better than the Rio saunas, but slow(ish) day in general as people are saving their pennies and penis for the weekend. Also, it will depend on what day of the month you spend your week in these two cities. The boys rely on local customers as the foundation of their business, and generally Brazilians spend less money towards the end of the month, so boys tend to not be at the saunas towards the last week of the month. Things pick up at the first of the month, and really peak after the 7th of the month as rent is due usually on the 10th. Not a hard and fast rule of course but something to keep in mind. If you find yourself at Lagoa on the 10th of the month on a Saturday, count yourself lucky, as the boy and the clients are all there on top of each other at the saunas. As always, your mileage may vary, and my experience may be a little bit different than yours @dallastexas. I also spend way too much time in Brazil in general, but judging from the experiences you have expressed here, you know why I spend a lot of my pennies and penis in this wonderful country.

@Bravo- "i love how arena has a unique vibe. I would describe it as oily, sweaty, mechanic, gym vibe. This aint a romantic boyfriend restaurant. Your shirtless oiled up car mechanic is here to pound you and you say yes sir and pay him anyway." What am apt description!

From Pattaya News Pattaya police are reportedly preparing to charge a Russian man they believe is linked to the fatal fall of his Russian girlfriend on Sunday for homicide after reviewing CCTV footage of the incident which appears to show the man holding the woman by her legs from his balcony. Pol. Col. Wattanachai Saengrit, superintendent of the Na Jomtien police station, ordered his subordinates to collect surveillance camera recordings in the vicinity of the scene where a Russian woman, Ms. Daria, 32, fell to her death from her condo on Sunday morning, August 13th. Upon reviewing the CCTV footage, it was discovered that Ms. Daria reportedly was dangling beyond the edge of the balcony with her 30-year-old Russian boyfriend, Mr. Oeaop Nbahobny Fedor, holding both of her legs. Pol. Col. Wattanachai stated that the boyfriend then allegedly released his grip, causing the woman to plummet to her immediate demise. He noted, however, that the motivation behind the footage remains unclear, whether it was an attempt to rescue the woman from falling or an act of homicide. During the interrogation, Mr. Oeaop acted uncooperatively with the police due to being irritated and alcohol intoxication. He had been speaking incoherently and his initial statement conflicted with the CCTV footage, initially alleging to be outside of the room while his girlfriend suddenly leapt to her death. When confronted with the CCTV footage which appeared to invalidate Oeaop’s claim of not being present he became more irritable and uncooperative, according to police.