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Excited by Aussie's post about the two poles erected in BN Bar, I have been sitting opposite like a dog waiting for a bone, but so far no bone. Hopefully, the boys will spring into action sooner or later, until then the poles will continue to act as ceiling supports. The Complex continues to be awash with rumours of "The Return to Sunnee Plaza" with several bar owners being name-checked as potential movers. All will become clear by the time high season returns, I am assured. The Complex itself is awash with boys, as noted by previous posters, and that's no bad thing. What is perhaps noteworthy is that the influx of boys is concentrated among the bars with young Thai owners, such as BN, 69 and Sunnee/Dodo Bars. The hobby bars owned by retirees are clearly lagging behind as they continue to try to pass off middle-aged bar staff as "boys". As a regular low season visitor, this year does not appear to be exceptionally quiet, despite some reports to the contrary, but perhaps the customers are more spread out among the many available bars. Word of the day: The standard collective nouns for a group of boys are: a blush of boys a leer of boys a passel of boys and a rascal of boys.

Why is anyone giving time to this EmmetK person??? Has he ever contributed anything useful to any forum here...... Troll......stop feeding him, and that's coming from me, I've done my share of feeding 😄

From Pattaya Mail Thailand’s Elite visa seeks to redefine a wealthy tourist By Barry Kenyon Big changes lie ahead for the Thai Elite visa. Following “careful consideration with stakeholders”, all programs will be discontinued to be replaced by totally new options from October this year. Those hoping to qualify under the current rules will need to submit their applications by September 15, whilst those already with 5-year Elite visas have until August 15 to extend to up to 20 years under the former regulations. The Thailand Privilege Card Company, which hosts Elite, has not yet published the future criteria, but there have been strong hints. Firstly, the prices will rise substantially, perhaps 900,000 baht for five years (instead of the current 600,000) and five million baht for 20 years (instead of one million plus). In return, members will likely receive privileges rather like airmiles – the more you spend and the more frequently you visit Thailand the happier you will be with the perks. Those with the “el cheapo” five year Elite visas will likely not be delighted. But Thailand will have to be careful not to price itself out of the worldwide expat market. It already offers a competitor visa, the ten year Long Term Residence run by the Board of Investment, which has not been a rip-roaring success to date with virtually no hard data published. Golden visas, however defined, need a lot of perks to compete internationally and no Thai proposal currently offers residence or a second passport, unlike the Indonesian and Cambodian equivalents. Certainly, bonuses such as fast-track airport services, freedom from the 90 days report and discounts at leisure facilities are unlikely to be enough if Elite enrolment fees rise steeply. The real point about Elite visas is that what counted as a “rich foreigner” in 2003 at inception is very different from perceptions today. 20 years ago, the flat fee was 500,000 baht and enrollers were told they were indeed someone special. The numbers of subscribers remained in the 2 or 3 thousand range until the Covid pandemic illustrated to the international community, Chinese in particular, the benefits of being able to move easily between countries. Today there are around 30,000 Elite members, all classes, with more than one third being Chinese nationals. The rebranding of Elite is doubtless linked to China and Asia rather than to Europe or the USA. Many on social media believe that the forthcoming rebranding of Elite is a bluff and little more than an attempt to boost new applications before the September 15 cut-off date. This scenario is unlikely. Thailand’s whole immigration system is clearly under review with the deputy national police chief recently predicting that annual, easy-coasting retirement visas – either a modest 800,000 baht cash in the bank or use of agents – will soon come to a shuddering halt. Separately, those with a dubious record in their visa history – for example absentee education students or voluntary work visas – are finding it difficult to obtain extensions or transfer to alternative permissions, including Elite. Another imponderable concerns comprehensive medical insurance. Currently, the Elite visa (unlike Long Term Residence or “O/A” non-immigrant retirement) does not require cover. Nor does the annual extension of stay based on “O” retirement given by the immigration bureau. Already Cambodia has announced the establishment of a government working party to explore compulsory medical insurance for all foreigners who stay in the country beyond 30 days. Whilst it is true that Thailand’s visa structure for millions more foreigners is much more complex and certainly easier to circumvent, expats choosing Thailand from now on must be prepared for mega-change. Unwelcome as the prospect may be.

I'm sorry, I've simply never had a real MAGAt to play with. Now you're trolling, you know he hasn't. I'll try but it's like one of those monkey toys with clapping cymbals. You just have to nudge it every time it goes quiet to see how long the batteries last.

A little skip down memory lane https://youtu.be/hd7PtYkAscw

Over a year ago, sydneyboy1 started an interesting thread on the status of Clube 555 (heir to Fragata) in São Paulo. Most posters were impressed with the facility but not the GPs. If you are interested in São Paulo options to Lagoa (such as Pauleiro's account today of HotHouse), you might want to look over those May 2022 posts about Clube 555 along with this update below. I thought sure that Clube 555 was defunct. It had been closed down when I previously tried to visit. But I was wrong. It turns out that São Paulo does in fact have a second, active, real GP sauna after all. After two weeks of going daily to Lagoa, I ventured over to Clube 555 on Sunday night, a short $3 Uber from my hotel by Avenida Paulista. Here is what I found: ● Big downstairs with the stage, bar, pool, over 20 tables, was filled (50+ people) for the 9:20 lipsync, bingo, go-go boy show. (See partial photo of the airy area below.) ● A year ago travelers here were wondering if 555 could survive! Even if Sunday is 555's top night and I did not have a perfect sample, it sure looked like 555 is doing OK if not thriving. So I think it's good news that Lagoa seems to have at a least a little competition, even if not with our crowd. ● Credit where credit is due. Clube 555's facility is clearly superior and far more spacious than Lagoa's. Instead Lagoa's tiny, cramped changing room, the one at 555 is nearly three time larger. The two bar/dining areas at 555 seem over three times larger than the two compact spaces at Lagoa. The steam room at 555 is more than double that of Lagoa. Also, for those who hate steps, 555 is spread over three large floors, instead of four floors like Lagoa. Pictured below is the large changing room and the second bar/dining area. ● Obvious issue: What about the talent? Outside of the "Lagoa-looking" go-go boys, I did not see any beefy, good-looking guys that you might see at Logoa. Guys at 555 were generally more swimmer types, not US football players. (Well, plus a few out of shape.) None at 555 were distinctly Euro or Afro; all were handsome Brazilian shades in between. They were not nearly as pushy as many Lagoa GPs. I had two good connections. One was a str8, trim, toned, handsome, hung newbie and the other a masculine, gay, trim, toned, passionate btm. Both seemed far more surprised and thrilled to get a RS50 tip (up from 150) than any GP at Lagoa. I cannot dispute the 2022 critics who identified 555's chief deficit as its lack of more top tier GPs. That is still the case in 2023. And yet, I got lucky. ● Suggestions: I still share the consensus recommendation here that Lagoa be your default sauna destination, especially if you are in SP for no more than a week or so. However, if you stay longer and are looking for some variety and change of scene, you might find it interesting to go explore 555, ideally on a weekend night. And you can always quickly retreat to Lagoa in a cheap taxi. Don't know about other nights but the Sunday show starts at 9:00 (BT so more like 9:20). Before 7:30 it will look pretty empty, but then it starts filling up. Website: http://www.clube555.com.br/

You are right. They are definitely not at 555 these days! I like like the Men's Fitness types too (with natural as well as gym muscles). I was thinking more about quarterbacks and tight ends (no jokes please) that fall into that cover-model category — not the offensive line. But, hey, I think Men's Fitness could feature quite a few of these University of Tennessee football players on its cover.

Reading all this with bewilderment! What have I learned? That 'our side' always tells the truth, 'your side' always tells lies! 🤣 We clearly have a lot to be grateful for on our side of the 'pond'! 😂

The fix is in!

I am not into slim swimmer bodies, nor beefy football player bodies. I am just into clean, trimmed, muscular gym toned model types that you see on Men's Fitness magazine, for example-- Based on the various posts on this forum, I don't believe 555 or hothouse offer this type of talent. But I see my types at SP' Lagoa and Rio's 117

I may not be old enough for you. But there are plenty of older men on this forum.

They should be, after all that is purpose of their employment there. In reality is irrelevant if all boys can be taken home. Your concern are boys YOU want take home. Best way to find is to go, buy them a drink and ask. Chances you will succeed are overwhelming

Sorry can't help with tailors and agree about the lack of a gay scene. But as soon as my flight had arrived at Danang in early 2020, getting into my car to Hoi An I had several hits on one of the apps (sorry cannot remember which). This resulted in two days with a really lovely Vietnamese guy.

From Thai PBS World The Pheu Thai and Bhumjaithai parties announced today (Monday) that they are joining hands to become the core in forming a new government. Together the parties have 212 House seats and are inviting more parties to join their coalition. Claiming they already have achieved a majority, they declined to reveal which parties they have in hand. At the press conference, Pheu Thai was represented by its leader Cholnan Srikaew, his deputy Phumtham Wechayachai and party secretary general Prasert Chanthararuangthong, while Bhumjaithai fielded leader Anutin Charnvirakul and party secretary general Saksayam Chidchob. Cholnan said more parties are expected to join their coalition. Both parties need support from MPs and senators in forming a government, so that it could administer the country and solve people’s problems, Cholnan said. Asked whether the cooperation between Pheu Thai and Bhumjaithai did not represent most voters’ desire, compared to Move Forward winning the most seats, Phumtham said Bhumjaithai won the third most seats (71), which means there are a large number of people who support the party.

Well, I was able to spend one week in gay Taipei and had a blast. This site helped me prepare for the itinerary. I had the week all mapped out and ready to go and see the saunas and massage places and I had 3 dates pre arranged from the apps. I worked hard to prepare. Like all things in life, things did not go as planned. I visited nothing I had planned. I took a taxi from the airport to my hotel. The driver was very talkative and I was too. I told him I was there to see the gay scene and he said his son was gay and just finished Freshman year in University. He said his English was not as good as his but he could give me a tour. I thought this was a bit odd, but I'm an odd man so I agreed. That night the son appeared to take me out to dinner but instead was very sexy and we ended up in bed and ordering room service. He was not a money boy, he was just into foreigners (his dad did not know). Anyway, we spent the entire week together and I got to know very little of what I wanted to see and a lot about my new friend, his family, the island, the touristy non-tourist locations and tons of food with his friends. They accepted me wholeheartedly and was happy he found a guy nice to him. He was a bit nerdy but so am I. He did not leave my side for 7 days and the sex was amazing. He will travel to Thailand this summer for a week or two but he is not looking for a forever love. He is young and I don't expect anything other than fun and a good friendship. I have to say, it was most definitely the best week I have had in years. As he came to the hotel to see me away, I gave him a gift to say thank you for his touring. (he never asked for money or for me to buy him anything). He was in tears when I gave him a new computer for his studies. I told him I was being selfish as I wanted him to use Facetime to talk to me and he can't do that on his windows. I'll plan another trip to the Island in the future. But, this trip was amazing. I do appreciate all the detailed information in this forum as it helped me plan. But, best laid plans are often laid to rest for another day.

These days, I'd bring someone I found on an app or mileroticos with me, so there's a sure thing at least. I do this in Sao Paulo when going to a place like Upgrade Club for example. One time there was a guy sitting on the floor, next to the urinal waiting for piss. I'd talk to him when I was in there, I told him I won't pee on him because I don't want him to get drunk 😆. Seemed like a nice guy, could be a lawyer or politician for all I know, but on subsequent visits, he'd ask who I brought or how many I brought, lol

the most fascinating story is the king's son from his second wife- who's been exiled for over 25 years - has returned to the kingdom for the first time in all those years. As commentators have noted, the media has not been prohibited from reporting on his return and what he's been doing around Bangkok. https://apnews.com/article/thailand-vajiralongkorn-king-son-returns-24599d730e7b3ebe2a054baee1a0dc6b https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2625693/kings-second-son-back-in-thailand-after-27-years

Those now middle-aged actors remind many readers of the era when their burgeoning sexuality and freedom took hold. Those memories remain a powerful trigger that rekindles those emotions.

No. But a good number of them are. Some are not looking for customers.

BN Bar and 69 Bar are Cambodian owners. Sunee/Dodo are the same owner, Thai.

Don't worry, we already know who he is (see recent thread complaining about various nationalities...)

Thank you. Very much appreciated.

A follow-on documentary to Oppenheimer has just been released in cinemas in the UK. A Compassionate Spy is the tale of Ted Hall, the 19 year old and youngest scientist who was part of the Los Alamos team (how on earth did they permit someone so young, I wonder?). Like more than at least one other scientist at Los Alamos, including Klaus Fuchs who is mentioned in the Oppenheimer movie, Hall became a spy for the Soviet Union. Steve James, the director of the documentary, states that what people later accused Oppenheimer of doing was mostly Ted Hall's work. "Unsettled by the US government’s refusal to share atomic intelligence with its allies and the prospect of a US monopoly on the bomb, Hall shared aspects of the project at Los Alamos with Soviet intelligence – a secret that went largely unknown for nearly 50 years, and is left out of the hit movie." Historian Joseph Albright, the co-author on a book about Hall, estimates that his spying accelerated Soviet progress on their own weapons by about 5 years. https://www.theguardian.com/film/2023/aug/07/compassionate-spy-documentary-ted-hall

Judge tosses Trump’s defamation suit against writer who won sexual abuse lawsuit against him Poor Trump. The shit he and denizens of the MAGAverse have to put up with! You can't even grab pussy these days. I have two questions moving forward. One, did Burisma bribe E. Jean Carroll to do it? Two, was this part of the same $5 million bribe to Hunter or Joe Biden? I sure hope not. When you think of Hunter or Joe in bed with Carroll, not literally of course, it's kind of disgusting. But not as disgusting as thinking about Swalwell boning Hunter while he defended him. No wonder the MAGAverse is just pissed off.

You say wrong and, elsewhere, call people liars without ever providing evidence. An MTG video of her making an unvalidated outburst is neither evidence or proof. You then make an unsubstantiated claim. What we do know is Stalwell helped the FBI identify someone working for the chinese and reported that to not one but two GOP House speaker (Boehner and Ryan). The ethics committee this year made no findings of wrongdoing. What we do know is that your ex-president Rapist is also a racist following his comments about Elaine Chow.

Who started World War II? I don't recall. And now Germany and Japan are both strong US allies. Vlad might want to factor that into his calculations. This has not gone well for Russia. And it ain't gonna end well for Russians. Even China is becoming wobbly. So much for eternal friendship. And don't worry about Americans killing Russians. The Ukrainians you love, respect, and want peace for are very busy killing Russians right now. In a war Russia started. Probably best to focus on that.

Keep in mind she might be wearing a dress.....

Where did I ever say she was? However given your MTG video lying about Eric Stalwell started this obsession about "chinese spies" I thought it was time to move on to ex President Rapist's obvious racism to people who made up his own cabinet.

Some of the firts gen BA guys are in the production now. For example sites like: https://onlyfans.com/theclarkreid https://carnalplus.com/channels with middle aged actors are very popular I think.

You are very selective about the atrocities you take umbrage to. There were atrocities all over WW2 committed by many nations. Some cost many million more lives than the atomic bombs.

Trump accuses ‘crazy’ former Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao of trying to ‘get rich on China’ | The Hill

Yes, providing nice eye candy, a good number guys do walk around town in shorts of varying length and fit. Yesterday was a perfect sunny Sunday. So, grand Avenida Paulista was totally pedestrian and filled with people (families, singles, couples, many same-sex hand holding, and hot men in shorts), along with singers, bands, mimes, tricksters, capoeira and other dance teams, including seven young ballerinas. Along the sidewalks were more than a kilometer of crafts, antiques, and miscellany for sale.

I'd love to see Lhasa, Luxor and take the dawn balloon trip over Bagan. But we're all different and I have never had an interest in Easter Island, Jerusalem, the Pyramds and Tikal. Machu Picchu was amazing. Were I ever to return to South America I would love to base myself in Cusco and explore more of the surrounding valleys. I found Cusco fascinating/

I,d never retire in Thailand for simple reason - living there permanently deprives one chance of travelling there, one of biggest treats in life.

Mine will be ( visited all, in order visited) : Lhasa (Tibet), Easter Island, Jerusalem, Pyramids of Egypt, Machu Picchu, Tikal, Siem Reap, Bagan, Istambul and Luxor. With exception of last two those were my childhood dreams so making list was breeze for me.

Not that I disagree but I have impression that they are not as bad as we think. Last trip I was domesticated at Quarter SalaDaeng ( former Siri Sathorn) for 9 days, quite a walk from the scene and there was no problem walking them there or walking them from there to say Sizzler on Silom.

Gerefan is right. I left ten days ago and can't wait to return. We don't visit bars but most evenings I'd take a stroll through the Complex. The guys outnumbered the punters by a ratio of two to one. At least. I reflected that , were I still in the market, I'd have a great time there, with plenty of attractive guys approaching me. A buyers' market. My impression was that there are more twinks now than a year ago. Plenty of masseurs available in the afternoon, too. There's a new (I think it's new) gay bar which also offered massages in that small soi that leads to the beach, behind Bamboo and the money exchanges.

I am there now as I love low season. Room rent very reasonable, always somewhere to sit, lads are not busy with other customers, Baht busses empty, easy to cross the road, restaurants have plenty of space etc., etc…Haha. Yes it’s quiet and I have heard several bars are up for sale. Some have signs outside saying for sale. Everything else is open, but obviously customers are down. This will of course improve later in the year. There are plenty of lads available and the massage places are maxed out with them.

Agree with almost all of @hojacat's comments. I lived in Hong Kong for 20 years and worked there for an additional 16. So I do know it quite well. I love the mix of ancient colonial and modern architecture, although the main parts of the Island and Kowloon are now much more modern. There used to be a light show on the Island which you can see from the Kowloon side starting at 8:00 pm. Again that is something unique (photo without the light show!) Also I have been a frequent visitor to Taipei since the 1990s and continue to visit about 4 times a year. Perhaps because I knew Hong Kong so well and remember when it was not such a political football, I am gradually falling out of 'love' with it. I do return occasionally for business and love the place with almost as much fervour as I did when I first landed more than 4 decades ago. The views are incredible, the hustle and bustle unlike anywhere else, the food divine and its so easy to get around. The MRT gets you to most places (be careful: taxi fares are very high) and there are some fantastic places to visit. You have to go up to the Peak. Get the Peak tram to take you up - it leaves from Garden Road a short walk up from the imposing I M Pei's geometric Bank of China Building. https://www.thepeak.com.hk/en I love a simple tram journey either from Central eastwards or westwards. Fares are HK$3 (US$0.40) for as long a ride as you wish. It gives you a great idea of what old Hong Kong looked like. Same with the ferries. I used to love going to Lamma Island on a Sunday. There were ferries to Yeung Shue Wan which was close to a rather nice beach (now totally spoiled by a power station, alas), crash out for a few hours, walk over the hills to Sok Ku Wan and have dinner at the island's 'Hilton' - just an open air bar/restaurant but with fantastic seafood - and get the evening ferry back from there. As Hong Kong has gone downhill politically, so its gay scene is not what it once was (but then, where is?). Hutong is very much the sauna to go to and there are quite a few others of varying sizes and varying clientele. During the week, I'd suggest Hutong as your best bet. Not sure how old you are, but there is a tiny sauna named CE half way up Lyndehurst Terrace on the island and very close to the very long central escalator which takes you almost half way up to the Peak. I have not been for some years and so cannot vouch for its present state. It used to be a place for younger Asians to hook up with older westerners. But its not a patch on Hutong. The bar scene is also no longer what it used to be, alas. This ste lists some of them - https://thehkhub.com/best-gay-bars-hong-kong/ I've been to Zoo, Petticoat Lane and FLM in Sheung Wan close to Central District. None seems very busy during the week but packed at weekends. I also like to meet friends at T:ME bar off Hollywood Road but it's a small bar off the main street and not the greatest place to meet new friends to hook up. Taipei is also quite spread out. With its mutitude of cafes, restaurants and a few bars, the main Red House in the Ximending District is a great place for people watching although hook ups are not very likely here unless your gaydar is working overtime. @hojacat has mentioned Soi13in as the best sauna and I certainly agree. I wrote in another thread recently about the new incarnation of Hans Mens Sauna which is very close to the Red House (around 300 meters). There are lots of private rooms, dark room areas and 2 steam rooms where a lot of action takes place. Maybe worth a visit. Directions are on the post here. One of my passions in Taipei is quite simple - visiting a hot spring. Huang Tzu is the one to go to as most of the guys who seem to be there are gay. But do not expect much action as it a place to see and be seen rather than play around - although I believe there is some action in teh steam room after midnight. Good for making contacts, though. The one problem with Huang Tzu is that while it is easy to get there - take the Red subway line to Shipai station and then a taxi from there (around NT$160 now - just over US$5) - getting a taxi back is really difficult and without one, you are stuck with a long steep uphill trek to the main road to get a bus back down to the station. But then all the buses seem to stop around 11:15 pm or so and that would enable you to get the last subway train back to the centre of teh city. The apps are more active than I have found in Hong Kong. And it is unlikely you are going to find more than a handful of money boys on them if that is what you look for. Most Taiwanese just want to meet a foreigner and have good time with them - no money involved. Just remember that English is not as popular as in Hong Kong and so speaking a little more slowly will always help. For sigheeing, it depends very much on what you would like to do. There are countless Chinese temples, some very beautiful and many packed with younger people. The National Palace Museum is a must if you happen to like Chinese arts and crafts. When the Japanese started their march down eastern China prior to World War 2, the Chiang Kai Shek government crated many of the country's national treasures to keep them safe. Then after Chiang was beaten by Mao, he stole many of the crates and had them removed to Taiwan. The works on exhibit are a mere fraction of those in its possession but they include some stunning pieces, especially in bronze and jade. The little white and green jade piece on the cover of the Museum's catalogue is one of the Museums' most admired works. If you look closely you can see two tiny insects crawling over the green. And then of course there is Taipei 101, for a few years the world's tallest building. It used to be packed with Chinese tourists, but should now be much easier to get to the observation decks because very few Chinese are permitted to go to Taiwan. On a clear day you can see way beyond the city to the sea in the west and the mountains both around and to the south. In hot weater there s a gay beach west of Tamshui at the end of the Red Line. I did try to find it once but got lost. My friends tell me it is actually quite easy to find and there are usually a lot of gay guys there at the week ends. Outside the city there are several attractions including quite lovely walks. One trip perhaps worth considering is to the Shifen Falls. You need 2 trains to get there and then there is a good 800 meter walk. They are not especially large, but certainly with a visit and very popular. As you walk back you will see students lighting Chinese lanterns on the train tracks at the station and the floating them into the air. Lastly I totally agree that Hong Kong is more expensive than Taipei. Much depends on how much you are prepared to spend on hotels. If you check on the hotel search engines like agoda, you'll see Hong Kong does have cheap hotels but with very small rooms.

still if you publish your plan it may help others, that way your hard work will not be wasted

Yes, I'm back from my trip to Mexico and Mexico City. I explained earlier, I'd wanted to visit Rio de Janeiro instead (for sexual exercise reasons), but for reasons of friendship I detoured to Mexico City instead. There was no sexual escapades on this trip. ☹️ I did spend a lot of time with friends 😁, wandering neighborhoods I've previously known (have lived in the city before). Grindr activity directed my way was almost non-existent. 😲 There were overtures from individuals I wasn't interested in ... so I didn't respond. I didn't initiate any contacts, though the hotel I stayed in in Mexico City allows non-guest visitors. It's a great city to visit, food choices are abundant. Weather was great. Oaxaca? Somewhat enjoyable, but not my 'cup of tea' anymore. Beautiful indigenous guys, though. To look at. Hotel had restrictions on guests. Though, I had no offers, nor did I solicit. Protesting teachers disrupted the Zocalo and blocked roadways ... which isn't unusual there. Overall, though the government is moving more rapidly towards militarization (love those soldiers!), it's one of the great tourism destinations.

I'd intended / wanted to be in Rio during that same period. I finally located an airfare (to Rio) that was palatable. Visiting Rio would result in pleasurable sex, more than I expect to encounter in Mexico City or here in Tampa Bay, FL. However, the determining factor for the choice of Mexico City is deep (non-sexual) friendships there. I have a 54-year long affinity with Mexico, including having lived in Mexico City previously. Friendships trump (no pun intended!) sexual escapades. So, I'll sacrifice the sex for the opportunity to maintain and enhance friendships. I'll try to get to Rio later this year.

I tell them I'm from Mexico, that throws them off their stride.....

If you do that, and the management slows you to do so, you will pay from the moment you take the keys to the moment you return them. But normally, the management wants to record both parties going in and out each room (using locker key numbers), for safety and damages purposes.

Maybe it works that way with the average-looking guy of the street type, “boys next door” (which I already know from your past statements that’s your type, so no explanation required) or twinks, but I know VERY few of the machos / muscle boys (my type) who would agree to spend time wining and dining, then socializing at the apartment — or even worse, staying overnight!, followed by sexo — with a client for the same price of a 30-40 minute sauna programa. That’s almost unheard of. I am not going to say they’re not out there in that category, but it would be a very rare bird.

@pauleiroOMG! That is so sad and tragic. I was warned about traveling to Brazil before my first visit and was skeptical about going because of some of the violent things i had heard and seen on social media. then i discovered this forum and was happy to see all the positive posts about brazil and its legion of hot guys. If you are a new traveler and havent been to rio, please go. just be careful as you would in any country including your own. Fortunately, I dont have to travel alone, but im still cautious even though im with my husband. sometimes you let your guard down and slip because we get relaxed after having a good time and the alcohol begins to kick in. Plan that trip and go have a good time. There are a few safety videos on youtube regarding brazil. I also watched those and they helped calm my fears. Times are hard for people all over the world and people are becoming more desperate to make or steal a dollar even if it means taking someones life to get it. Dont make yourself a target by wearing jewelry, expensive clothes, shoes, watches, etc. In one of the STRAIGHT travel groups im in on social media some guy was robbed last week because he wore his expensive chain in colombia. He was a big guy with a tour guide and 2 friends with him. After his chain was snatched, he lunged at the guy and the robber quickly pulled out a firearm, but didnt fire it. a 38 year old attorney was robbed and killed a few weeks ago in chile because he was in the wrong neighborhood taking pictures. go go go. you will love brazil. when leaving 202, my husband and i call for an uber and wait upstairs on the 2nd floor until the car arrives. we both wear undergarment waist pouches that cant be seen. we each take one credit card and only take enough money for 2 sex romps while at the sauna. we also wear cargo shorts and keep our cell phones in the lower pockets buttoned up. we also take collapsible canes as a deterent when were out at night. who knows if it works, but it gives us piece of mind and might make someone think twice about mugging us. In these desperate times a mugger wouldnt give a ish. also, try to get a an apartment that has around the clock security and be extremely friendly to the front door attendant. if we go eat, i ask the attendant if theyre hungry and would like for us to bring them food back. believe me, this goes a very long way with them and a quick and easy way to make an alli to help keep you safe. If youre a horny slut like me then only getting sex in the club wont be enough. you can ask the front desk clerk to take your visitors identification and only give it back if they personally get a call from you. as stated by other travelers in this group, dont make yourself a target and always be aware of your surroundings. its also a very good idea to maybe meet some other travelers in this group to travel and hang out with them, if they allow. I know this is done in a lot of groups on social media. someone who is traveling for the first time to another country will post in the forum and meet up with other guys who are traveling at the same time. dont allow fear to overtake you and miss out on the fun that many of the contributors in this forum are engaging in. trust me, we keep going back to these countries for good reason. the good far outweighs the bad. dont forget to check out some of these youtube videos. they helped me to overcome my fears https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0GGmpGpoAc

I never tried a straight guy, so I cannot guarantee it, but I was explained that they all at least kiss, get naked, suck you and let you suck them. The Top / Bottom symbol is about penetration (personally I only ever chose one that had at least one of these 2 symbols ‘on’)

Thanks for your posts and solid information. It was very helpful and It helped me navigate to my first Medellin top. I did exactly what you wrote and hit them up on WhatsApp. I have no idea who I was talking to when I messaged them because I never met him. So how it went down: - I suggest messaging Ferchos on WhatsApp a few hours before you go. There is no point messaging the day before and definitely not earlier than that. They have a 24 hour default timer on so whatever exchanges happen on Whatsapp disappear after 24 hours. - They/he will not engage in English. It is Spanish and only Spanish so if like me, you don't Speak Spanish, have google translate or another translate app to go back and forth. This is essential or you'll get nowhere. The guy is patient so no worries if it takes awhile. - They/he will send a pretty substantial number of photos/video's of guys available. I'd say he sent a good 20. Most were hot but some so so. That said, everyone has varied tastes so you get a bit of everything which is good. - I was asked if I wanted to choose or go with who he recommended based on what I was looking for (I was looking for a top as he asked what you want sexually). The guys he recommended to me didn't do it for me though, so I chose my guy (which was not easy). I settled on a Hot mixed Venezuelan as it turns out. I have no idea his age as they don't volunteer that info though i'm sure they will tell you if you ask. I'd put him between 23-25 - perfect for me... Nice package needless to say - Once you are set with your choice and let Ferchos know you simply arrange a time and go. He'll ask if you know the location and as stated - Bliss Suites Hotel. The prices all in for the Chico, the hotel is 150K Colombian pesos which is not really going to bust the bank. - When you arrive at the hotel just send him a whatsapp message that you arrived. Here is where it gets a bit interesting. A girl actually comes down to let you in. She asked me if I was looking for a Chica and I said no a Chico. She let me in and I waited at the reception. Please note this is a pay by the hour type motel so there will be customers there setting up their own business. Nobody is judging so no worries. - after waiting about 10 minutes (I'm Punctual but this is Latin America lol) - My guy arrived at the reception. Again, and expectedly he didn't speak a lick of English BUT he was HOT HOT HOT so my excitement level went through the roof. You pay the Hotel the agreed upon fee. In this case it was 150K as I stated the above. So you do not pay the boy you pay the hotel. - They then give him the keys to the room and you're set. The room is clean and had a jacuzzi, disco lighting lol, a fan and well a sex bed that was perfectly fine. - From there well - you have your session and he certainly didn't disappoint at all. He was very sweet as a person but a bull in bed. I was definitely satisfied. - That's it you check out and overall a good experience. Would I do it again - 100 percent. Sure you are paying but it is safer - especially for me as a newbie in Colombia and you get what you want. I went in the late afternoon and didn't have any feelings of being insecure walking the streets to the motel. That said, If going later say after 8 or 830 probably better to take a taxi or uber. If anyone wants any further details feel free to message me

It's a myth that gaybutton is a Sunee Plaza regular. Nor is he the mayor or leader of the Barmy Army. In fact, the Barmy army has disbanded as the battle was won.

But... when I was a little boy I never felt interest for teddy bears. Instead, I enjoyed mechanical toys, and had a passion for disassembling things.. Maybe I won't be afraid of GayButton if i can disassemble him?