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Best GoGo Bar
Travellerdave and 3 others reacted to Londoner for a topic
True....the guys who used to cruise us on Dongtan are now sitting at home playing with their phones rather than with us. As someone says In Shakespeare's Henry 4 (don't ask which part)...."The times that we have seen. Have we not heard the chimes at midnight?" A moment of melancholy for me. Apologies.4 points -
I think unrealistic expectations are hurting everyone these days, not just the gays. The apps with their swiping left and right reduces everyone to a first impression of a photo3 points
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I went to dream boys last night and drinks price is horrendous
vinapu and 2 others reacted to floridarob for a topic
There are some very hot Filipinos , none of which I've ever seen in Thailand, but they exist. It's like I never saw an Issan guy in NYC, so I think the Thais I've seen in Manhattan represent all Thai guys or I've only seen white chunky Brasilians on flights yet the bronze beauties from Salvador never, so I make an assumption about them. Not sure if you've noticed in third world countries, the people with money to travel, are a different class. Not usually the types you, me or Vinapu are attracted to either..... Go explore the Philippines, will be good content for your blog đ3 points -
From Pattaya News Police Seize 15 Motorbikes as Kuwaiti Motorbike Racers Remain a Problem Residents and business operators in South Pattaya are still frustrated with the persistent presence of noisy Middle Eastern street racers gathering at night. Some hotel residents even moved from the area to avoid the unbearable nuisance, according to hotel operators. Police officers from the Pattaya police station raided Soi Yen Sabai in South Pattaya early this morning today, July 31st, following residentsâ complaints that young adults, mostly Kuwaiti nationals, had congregated in the alley and caused noise disturbances with their rented modified motorcycles. The complaints stated that these young men revved up their engines, blocked the entire alley with their vehicles, parked in front of houses without permission, and drove loudly up and down the street without any regard for traffic rules. They also claimed the riders never wore helmets and had no valid licenses or insurance. When the police arrived to inspect the situation at 1 AM, they found the road inside Soi Yen Sabai completely blocked by parked motorcycles, making it impossible for regular traffic to pass through. The police then used patrol cars with sirens and made announcements to disperse the Kuwaiti group, but the group seemed indifferent and stood together, watching and somewhat seemingly amused by the authorities. At the end of the operation, the officers seized 15 of the motorcycles that were blocking traffic and would proceed with legal actions against the tourists and the motorbike rental agencies accordingly.3 points
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I like the sense of movement, of people travelling for wildly-different reasons and sometimes even for a slight edginess.....there are police road blocks not far away. The political repression in Burma makes it even more interesting. And I mean "interesting", not pleasant. I suppose this may reflect childhood experiences when my parents used to take on me on railway journeys through Europe and the changes I witnessed as we passed from one country to another fascinated me, even as a youngster.3 points
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Iâm back! Bangkok trip report July 2023
revengeboo and 2 others reacted to Bravo for a topic
Day 4 So woke up with this guy in bed, had some morning cuddles and hugs. But slightly hungover to do anything. We went to get brunch in silom plaza, short walk from our hotel. Jey Spa I know.. It's my 3rd time here this week. What can I say, I love their selection of guys and convenience of booking. Although during peak hours, the 20-30 min drive there can be a pain. Booked a guy called Arm and he is so hunky gorgeous. Tanned skin, handsome face, pretty eyes, hot arms chest abs. He was gay too so we managed to have a lot of fun towards the end of the massage heh. He was sooo sweet. He offered to ferry me on his motorbike to like the main road. I stupidly said " no its ok, i'll walk". WTF WTF. Don't know why I refused, regretted it once the words came out of my mouth. Would have gladly sat behind him with my hand on his waist and taken that few minutes of motorbike ride sighs... OF So I've been liaising with this contact on line account - cum men spa bkk, and was interested in this model/ onlyfans creator. I've been watching his videos before and briefly signed up for his OF for a few months previously. He is soooo hottt. For a fee, quite hefty - probably similar to overseas USD rates, I managed to meet him in my hotel. Only downside was that I had to pay a deposit after making the appointment. At least it was quite easy to do - can deposit $ through 7-11 with cash, although I had some hesitancy initially, but it all worked out okay. He did everything I wanted and more. It was so fking hot, imagining meeting your favourite p0rn star in your room. Geez. I rate it one of the top 3 encounters I've had in my life. DM me if keen to know more. Dreamboy Earlier in the day I messaged "Boy 2" - one of the guys I met from the club the night before. I asked him if he was working in DB tonight and he said yes, then I said "you sit with me tonight ok" and he said "ok". Yay. He's also the guy that made me decide to extent my stay by 1 day hehe. So went to DB and sat with him. He is tall so the short shorts were really short on him heh. Gosh he is soo handsome and cute. We decided to go clubbing again at DJ so I offed him, as well as "Boy 1" who was his friend too. Woops. My first time offing 2 boys. But I made it clear I will only bring Boy 2 back to hotel haha. So me and Boy 1 & 2 went DJ but it was blackout zzz. No electricity so the whole club was down. Apparently some of the other clubs - Jupiter were down too from the blackout. So we decided to take a 30 min cab ride to another gay bar/club - Fake Club. My 2nd time here. The first time was probably wayyy back in 2016 with another guy I met from DB. Was really fun - get a bottle for a table, waiters were cute, there were models there too who will come and accompany you at the table and drink with you. Good music and shows, kind of EDM music, models dancing on stage, and playing drinking games at our table. Ended up being real hammerred from all the drinks that I did not remember how I got back to my hotel. I remember leaving the club with Boy 2, and vaguely showering back in the hotel. Yikes. Have to bear this in mind in future cannot be too drunk when im "alone". Apparently Boy 2 took care of me after leaving the club - he showed me a video completely knocked out in the taxi oops.. Slept together and woke up having some morning cuddles and fun before sending him on his way. One of the most fun nights in BKK i've had in a while heh..3 points -
See my post above. My opinion: too much hassle to get your own SIM card with just a short trip. Itâd be much easier to get GoogleFi, or if you have certain plans with AT&T, you get free roaming in Latin America, including Brazil. Chili Peppers in SĂŁo Paulo is a good option. You will have no problems getting laid there as they cater to all types. You probably wonât encounter the adonises of the GP saunas tho if you are not one yourself (as it is not a pay for play sauna), but it is a fun distraction regardless. Just be careful, it is in a sketchy neighborhood. Donât pull out your cell after getting off the Uber, and call the Uber in the waiting area in the sauna till it arrives. I donât do poppers, so canât help you there. I wont chance putting it on your luggage, as the Alfândega might get you at the airport (tho rare). If you get on GRindr, certain sellers will approach you if you are a gringo. Canât say this is reputable, but there is that chance. The Heritage allows GPs from my experience, and very walkable to the sauna, so good choice.2 points
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Re: the original question⌠my answer is always: Iâm currently in Rio, and I was just in SP, and have been alternating both cities (since 2018? Has it been that long) ever since Iâve decided to give Brazil a try. If it were me, and I just had one week to spend in Brazil a year, Iâd fly into SĂŁo Paulo and arrive on a Friday and spend the weekend there, and hop on a plane (or a bus) to Rio during the week, and finish out your trip back in SP for another weekend. I have found that certain days are always busy (Friday and Saturday, for example), but Mondays seem to be weirdly amazing as well. My take, from recent weeks being here: Fridays: Lagoa (SP) is better than the Rio saunas (117 or 202 are both good as well, but sometimes oddly a toss up, as one is better than the other, or both the same on Fridays) Saturdays: Lagoa (SP) is oddly better than any of the Rio saunas on Saturdays. Why is that? Sundays: Slow day, but an odd choice would be 555 in SĂŁo Paulo. Ramiro is there now and they are trying to get Sunday to happen for 555. Lagoa is horrendous on Sundays with karaoke (ugh why have this), and recently has started to empty out after 7 PM due to 555 having bingo nights on Sunday. Rio has 117 as an only option, and even then it is slow. Mondays: Point (Rio) is oddly good on Mondays. Lagoa (SP) is also good. I find this odd but maybe boys get more day workers come to the sauna? 117 is closed. Meio Mundo is an option in Rio, but it is not for me. Tuesdays: 117 (Rio) would be your pick here. Point is closed. Lagoa is slow. Wednesdays: Point (Rio) is a hit or a miss on this day but mostly a hit. 117 is super slow, and Lagoa will be better. Thursdays: Lagoa will be infinitely better than the Rio saunas, but slow(ish) day in general as people are saving their pennies and penis for the weekend. Also, it will depend on what day of the month you spend your week in these two cities. The boys rely on local customers as the foundation of their business, and generally Brazilians spend less money towards the end of the month, so boys tend to not be at the saunas towards the last week of the month. Things pick up at the first of the month, and really peak after the 7th of the month as rent is due usually on the 10th. Not a hard and fast rule of course but something to keep in mind. If you find yourself at Lagoa on the 10th of the month on a Saturday, count yourself lucky, as the boy and the clients are all there on top of each other at the saunas. As always, your mileage may vary, and my experience may be a little bit different than yours @dallastexas. I also spend way too much time in Brazil in general, but judging from the experiences you have expressed here, you know why I spend a lot of my pennies and penis in this wonderful country.2 points
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I agree with Andrew Sullivan to an extent. As much as I enjoy seeing all of a sexy guys body in pics on the apps, I find it takes a certain... frission out of the whole thing. If I meet a guy in a bar, I don't know what he looks like under his clothes. The is a certain mystery that unravels naturally as you "hook up". The apps can't really offer that. Easier access to porn is a double edged sword; guys tend to be better informed about what turns them on and what does not, and I think thats a great thing. But it also causes unrealistic expectations, and addiction.2 points
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New to Thailand - sex questions
floridarob and one other reacted to omega for a topic
If one is going to some one off sex party /orgy, I can see why the risk vs benefit equation of taking Doxy-PrEP balances toward being more beneficial. But if it is as regular as every time one has sex... then that would push the risks much higher.2 points -
From Pattaya News Thai Police Pledge to Eradicate Foreign Motorcycle Clubs By Tanakorn Panyadee The Royal Thai Police (RTP) are on the hunt for five major foreign motorcycle clubs operating on Thai soil following a crackdown on the notorious Outlaws Motorcycle Club in Pattaya last month. The RTP on July 21st launched a crackdown on the Outlaws group and arrested the alleged Austrian gang leader Thomas Ginner just as he was preparing to flee the country. According to the RTP, Ginnerâs motorbike club was notorious for engaging in transnational crimes and was implicated in an incident in which a German gang member named Olaf Thorsten Brinkmann was accused of murdering Hans Peter Walter Mack, a 62-year-old German property broker, in Pattaya last June. Brinkmann was arrested while hiding in a type of cubby hole at an Outlaws clubhouse in Bangkok. Following Brinkmann and his three accomplicesâ arrest and a crackdown on the Outlaws Motorcycle Club, the RTP are now targeting five major motorcycle clubs operating in the country. These clubs include Outlaws Motorcycle Club or Outlaws MC, Hells Angels Motorcycle Club or Hells Angels, the Bandidos Motorcycle Club, which is also known as the Bandido Nation, the Mongols Motorcycle Club or the Mongol Brotherhood, and the Vagos Motorcycle Club, which is also known as the Green Nation, the Bangkok Post reported. Most of the clubs are managed by Australian nationals and operate mainly in tourist destinations across Thailand such as Phuket, Koh Samui in Surat Thani, and Pattaya, allegedly targeting foreigners for protection fees in exchange for them to run businesses in the area. They occasionally even abduct or commit murders against foreigners for money, the RTP said. Typically, the gangs do not meddle with Thai people as they know it will land them in trouble more easily than when they do with foreigners. part from Thailand, these gangs have members around the world, allegedly committing various kinds of illegal activities such as narcotic drug distribution, assault, theft, loan-sharking, fraud, money laundering, or murder, the Bangkok Post reported. Deputy National Police Chief Pol Gen Surachate Hakparn stated that the gang members tend to favor Thailand due to the lack of strict law enforcement and corrupt officials. He cited the outdated 1979 Immigration Act, which allows foreigners aged above 50 to easily live in Thailand only if they have 800,000 baht in their bank account or an income certificate with a monthly salary not less than 65,000 baht. Due to the existence of these dangerous gangs, aware foreign tourists feel discouraged to visit Pattaya or invest in the Eastern Seaboard, causing huge damage to the country, Pol Gen Surachate said. As part of the efforts, Pol Gen Surachate promised that he would propose an amendment to the immigration law, especially concerning retirement visa extensions, through the police chief once a new government takes office. This aims to filter out bad people and make the law truly helpful for investors or someone who innocently want to live in Thailand. For biker gangs, he ensured that at least one of them, the Outlaws, has been completely weeded out from Pattaya. The police are now extending their investigation to Phuket and Koh Samui.2 points
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Found an old flyer for Banju Sauna
Xclay and one other reacted to Primeone385 for a topic
Sorry I scrolled down to the bottom of the page to see the latest post in excitement for my trip next week for the 1sT time.2 points -
New to Thailand - sex questions
floridarob and one other reacted to KeepItReal for a topic
That may be true. But just because everyone is doing it, doesn't mean I have to participate. My cousin is a doctor that specializes in drug resistant diseases. She would tell you straight up: antibiotics should not be available over the counter and any general practitioner that prescribes an antibiotic because you have the sniffles is doing more harm than good. đ¤2 points -
Gayspot toilet in bkk
westernguy and one other reacted to floridarob for a topic
Just trying to get views on that video???? Doesn't show anything and is in Chinese.....don't bother clicking guys, waste of time.2 points -
Burmese & Vietnam Bar/Massage Boys
Xclay and one other reacted to floridarob for a topic
Surely you'll set them on the right racism course of course....2 points -
A note for all Thailand Elite holders. Although there has been absolutely no notification from the Elite office, one of the legal firms authorized to handle Elite requests let the cat out of the bag last week when it stated the Elite programme is being revamped on Oct 1. The only info it contains is that the family visa is being dropped. Worse for those on the basic programme costing 600,000 baht for 5 years expecting a renewal for 15 years at 400,000 baht, it seems certain that renewal is either also being dropped or substantially modified. Try getting the Elite Visa hotline to confirm annything over the long holiday weekend and the operators were clueless. They had not even been briefed on changes. Then a number of blog sites have all written in recent days that the last date for applying and paying for existing Elite card programmes and extensions will in fact be August 15! With so many unknowns and the almost certainty of only 2 weeks formal notice of what seem to be very major changes, I have already heard from a number of furious Elite members - and I am presently in Taipei! Clearly something is about to change and it may happen very quickly. My only advice to those planning to apply for an Elite card or holding the basic 5 year card and hoping to renew is to get cash ready and stand by for a quick 15 year upgrade. Iâll post more info when Thai Elite finally get round to informing existing members.2 points
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SP or Rio now?
floridarob and one other reacted to Ale4co for a topic
Thank you so much for this info. Iâm fine with stairs as long as thereâs a railing but that does look like a lot. Yes today I found out it was a 12 hr period at panda hotel and that was the suite. As for today since 117 was closed I went to Alameda across the street with my first GP and upon arrival he ran into a friend in the hallway, and the friend came into our room before we started, and now it appeared that we were negotiating two people the thing is, I donât have cash for two people, but I totally wouldâve been down, except for that fact. One thing Iâm confused about is how do I actually ask that I want sex because it seems like itâs an upsell. Like what are the words I need to say to the GPâŚ? so far all we are doing is just foreplay. another thing I wanted to know..where do you hold conversations or negotiations with gp at 117, is it in locker room or bar? Like while getting to know them? Can they sit with you in bar in their towels or nude? I think I will go back one more time. thank you for the great info2 points -
But since you raised the subject!... I'll share a July '23 update on Boate Casa Grande in Bangu: â Uber took me "straight" there. Dropoff stop was maybe ten feet past the entrance. No problem at all. Previously posters found the location challenging, but maybe map directions have improved. â It is a big, airy space but below New Meo Mundo in elegance. â Manager (owner?) MĂĄrcio is a nice guy. â On my Sunday afternoon around 4pm: 5 clients and 8 GPs. No gym rats. Average to trim built. All handsome shades (none white or black). Only one was really toned. Slightly shy and not at all aggressive. â Happy to get 100. Probably could have bargained for less but why just to save two dollars? đą #1: My first time with a known parolee wearing an electric ankle monitor! (A personal first.) He was the most muscular and best looking GP there. đ #2: At least 6'4", kinda cute, eager kisser, but super soft. đ #3: Danil was 6' tall with big brown eyes; really got into it; excellent kisser; shot. No plans to return, but I'm definitely glad I checked it out and played. It was worth the ride out to Bangu if only for the electric ankle monitor.2 points
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In the glory days Dongtan beach was exclusively gay with lots of boys , unfortunately these days are gone but still nice beach to relax,eat and have a massage. If you really want nice beaches with crystal clear water Kho Larn nearby island is the place to visit.2 points
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My first trip to Thailand was to Pattaya. Subsequently, i tried Phuket, Bangkok, Chiang Mai, all of which had promising reports regarding encounters with Thais, and each proved to have its own distinctive charms. However, none has replaced Pattaya. The one thing that continued to drew me to Bkk was Babylon. Specifically the "old" Babylon. But even the new one gave me hours of pleasure- and often surprising delights ("Does this guy really fancy me? Me? Surely not!"). It was the best sauna I've ever attended. And I've tried quite a few around the world. Now that it has gone, there remains just one Bkk experience which ensures that I always spend a day or two there; the sheer thrill of arrival at the airport and then the drive into Surawong...the clammy heat as the doors slide open and I look for a taxi, the sights, smells, sounds. After nearly eighty visits, it still sets the pulse racing. And the bars? I 'm years out of date but i was (and remain) a twink-lover and this was a good reason to prefer Pattaya. Not that there weren't once enjoyable twink-bars in Bkk, but to me they just didn't compare to what was on offer in Pattaya. From what I've read here, Bkk still seems to be more suitable for admirers of hunkier guys.2 points
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From The Thaiger Southeast Asia, particularly Bangkok, is showing promising signs of growth in terms of flight traffic, according to Cathay Pacific, which has ranked the Thai capital as one of its stronger-performing flight routes. Post-Hong Kongâs reopening, Cathay has reported a steady ascent, keeping pace with global passenger traffic. One of the airlineâs senior executives, Dominic Perret, highlighted Thailand as a key player in the recovery of the Asian sector. To further substantiate this point, in May, the company reported a 53% rise in recovery compared to numbers from 2019. Interestingly, flights from Hong Kong to Bangkok, Singapore and Manila are presenting the strongest growth amongst Cathay Pacificâs Southeast Asia portfolio, which comprises 13 destinations. Perret also emphasised the reciprocal tourism between Thailand and Hong Kong. The former holds considerable allure for Hongkongers and foreigners alike, while Thai tourists show an equal fondness for Hong Kong and Japan. As things stand currently, Cathay Pacific operates five to six daily flights between Hong Kong and Bangkok, a reduced number from the nine it conducted pre-Covid times. The aspiration is to ramp up to at least seven daily flights by early 2024. Adding to the strategic edge, the airline operates one to two daily flights utilizing Airbus A330s that offer more capacity compared to the A321neos used previously. Similarly, for the Bangkok flights, the deployment of wide-body jets like the A350-900s and Boeing777s has garnered an impressive 90% load factor recorded in May, expected to persist through July and August, reported Bangkok Post. athay has now resumed service to all its destinations, bar Myanmarâs Yangon, while growth continues unabated in its efforts to match the flight capacity to 2019 levels. Aiming for a 70% recovery rate for global flights by the yearâs end, a full recovery is projected for next year. Key to this upward trend remains a strong recovery in tourism and the overall economy in their aviation hub, Hong Kong. Perret also revealed that the three-runway system at Hong Kong International Airport is slated to commence full-scale operations next year, and the previous shortage of ground personnel across Southeast Asiaâs airports has already dissipated. The airline also recently entered a conversion scheme partnership with Siam Piwatâs loyalty programme, linking Asia Miles with Siam Piwatâs VIZ coins, devised to attract more tourists to Thailand. .The group currently holds 222 aircraft in its fleet, with an additional 48 slated to be added by 2028, and 11 expected to be delivered within the year.1 point
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From The Thaiger Yesterday marked the kick-off of an unprecedented six-day holiday. Pattayaâs beaches and tourist hotspots were abuzz as visitors flocked, particularly to Koh Larn, a stunning island located roughly 7 kilometres from the coast. According to local accommodation providers, the entirety of the islandâs estimated 3,000 rooms were booked out. The rush of tourists, both Thai and foreign, regularly set sail from Bali Hai pier in South Pattaya to the island. In response to the influx, the Pattaya City Municipality in collaboration with the Marine Office mobilised officials to assist in managing the crowd at the pier. Safety standards were paramount and authorities worked with ferry operators to assert strict adherence to safety guidelines regarding the number of passengers aboard each boat. Furthermore, passengers were mandated to don life jackets during the journey. Anticipating the surge, additional parking was secured to cater for the increased volume of vehicles, according to local authorities. This significant rise in room demand for Koh Larn can be attributed to the recently approved proposal by the cabinet secretariat. This unusual declaration declared an additional âspecialâ public holiday. This extended the typical vacation period from July 28 to August 2, in a move to rejuvenate tourism. Moreover, this elongated break overlapped with other set holidays such as His Majesty the Kingâs birthday, Asanha Bucha Day, and the commencement of the Buddhist Lent. Related news1 point
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money boys
kokopelli3 reacted to Boy69 for a topic
The rates are for Bangkok,at other places like Pattaya and Chiang Mai ST min. 1000 Bht LT min.1500 Bht. Popular guys will charge more ,If the distance between you two is far away the cost will be higher to compensate for the time arriving to you and cost of the transport, sometimes you can find guys quoting very low price because they are not professional money boys or Because they are desperate for cash .1 point -
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Pattaya Deduct 500 fromm amounts quoted by reader above, again we are talking minimum1 point
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Bangkok Short time (1-2 hours) iâd anticipate minimum 1.5k. LT min 2.5-3. (keep in mind these are minimums) Notable variable is how badly guy is in need of rapid cash infusion. (I.e., end of month and rent due) Another consideration is distance he has to travel.1 point
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From the BBC By Jonathan Head South East Asia correspondent, Phnom Penh Undeterred by the pouring rain, a long convoy of motorbikes carrying cheering, flag-waving supporters of Cambodia's ruling party revved their engines in preparation for their triumphant final rally in downtown Phnom Penh. People dutifully lined the road as far as you could see, party stickers on their cheeks, the sky-blue hats and shirts they had been given to wear getting steadily wetter. Perched on the back of a truck, Hun Manet, the 45-year-old eldest son of Prime Minister Hun Sen, greeted the crowds proclaiming that only the Cambodian People's Party (CPP) was capable of leading the country. Indeed, his father had made sure that the CPP was the only party which could possibly win the election. Hun Sen, 70, has run Cambodia in his trademark pugnacious style for 38 years: first in a Vietnam-installed communist regime, then under a UN-installed multi-party system, and more recently as an increasingly intolerant autocrat. The only party now capable of challenging his rule, the Candlelight Party, was banned from the election on a technicality in May. The remaining 17 parties allowed to contest it were too small or too little-known to pose a threat. A few hours after the polls closed, the CPP claimed the expected landslide, with a turnout of more than 80%. There were quite high levels of spoiled ballot papers in some polling stations: that was probably the only safe way voters could show their support for the opposition. With Hun Manet expected to succeed his father within weeks of the vote, in a long-prepared transfer of power, this felt more like a coronation than an election. "I don't think we can even call it a sham election," says Mu Sochua, an exiled former minister and member of the CNRP, another opposition party banned by the Cambodian authorities in 2017.1 point
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From Reuters Nearly Half a Million Spoiled Ballots in Cambodia PHNOM PENH (Reuters) - Cambodia's election commission said on Tuesday that nearly half a million ballots were spoiled in the national election last month, which critics have called a sham as all opposition parties were barred from contesting. Having ruled for nearly 40 years, Prime Minister Hun Sen will hand over power to his son later this month after the ruling Cambodian People Party (CPP) scored an easy victory in the July 23 election. The CPP won 80% of a total of 8.2 million votes cast, the National Election Committee (NEC) said on Tuesday, the first official announcement of the results. About 440,000 ballots -- or every one in 18 -- were invalidated, the NEC said, adding the election had seen a high turnout of 85%. According to NEC official Dim Sovannarom, the number of spoiled ballots was less than in the 2018 election, when state institutions had also disbanded an earlier incarnation of the pro-democracy opposition Candlelight party.1 point
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Pattaya Mail columnist Barry Kenyon chimed in today on the fate of the Elite Visa: The Thai Elite visa, which offers multiple-entry stays between five and 20 years, will totally replace its current packages on October 1 2023. Founded by then prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra in 2003, Thailand Privilege Card Company is wholly owned by the Ministry of Tourism and Sports. But a new senior management team at Elite has decided to introduce unprecedented changes. All new applications for Elite must be made by September 15 under the existing application rules: after that it will be too late. Current holders of the popular Elite Easy Access â a five year visa available for as cash payment of 600,000 baht â have until August 15 to transfer to a longer Elite visa, usually for 20 years: after that it will be also be too late. Enrolment and renewal fees are likely to rise as the principle of Elite has always been to attract high spenders, wealthy expats and global citizens. The number of packages, some of which include deals for expat families as well as individuals, may well be reduced or combined. Scrutiny of application details will almost certainly be intensified. Currently, files are checked against the Thai immigration database and information held by Thai embassies abroad. This referral might be extended to Interpol after it was found necessary to cancel some Elite members who were involved in âgreyâ businesses or fraudulent or criminal international activity. Other memberships have been refused to some Elite holders whose original visas were for study or voluntary work â sometimes dubiously issued for untraceable cash during the Covid pandemic. Membership of Elite programs stultified in the few thousand members for many years, but zoomed to over 20,000 in 2022 and is now thought to be nearing 30,000. Well over one third of recent applications are from Chinese citizens, but Thai MPs and tourist authorities have both complained publicly about abuses. For example, visa agents in Chinese cities have been offering under-the-table Elite visas in return for mammoth cash sums. Some abuses have been linked to corruption in Thai immigration and disreputable language schools enrolling absentee learners.1 point
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Solution to Russian blocking of Ukrainian grain?
stevenkesslar reacted to forky123 for a topic
Zero chance? There are already more Russian deaths in Ukraine than in 10 years of Afghanistan.1 point -
Found an old flyer for Banju Sauna
Xclay reacted to floridarob for a topic
Xclay gave you the answer in that post.....if you are looking for the greener grass, had over on a Sunday to get it out of your system. I'm sure you won't make a secong trip.1 point -
SP or Rio now?
Lucky reacted to floridarob for a topic
Sign language almost never fails.....one finger into the hole of the other đđ... you fuck me or I fuck you as they say in Thailand. Plus add whatever other likes you have kissing, sucking, that they cum, etc..... getting hit and strangled is more common for some people than I thought, but I'm a lover not a fighter. Sex is NOT an upsell...cumming usually is. Their opening lines are sometimes, do you want a massage. I love massage and always ask for a sample first to see if they have a clue about massage....most don't, these is where Thailand spoils you. But at least you know, then it opens the door to more questions, it's ok if it's on Google translate, no shame. DON'T be shy, they've seen a lot and are pros. Yes they can sit with you in a towel or nude. They may ask for a drink or something to eat, so make sure you're prepared for that. That's where the agreements should be made BEFORE agreeing to go to a room upstairs or a love motel. Don't leave any gray areas and if they seem in a rush, that turns me off....some want to wham bam, get paid and be done. Someone like that might leave you unsatisfied in bed. Keep in mind the rooms have a time limit, not sure what it is these days as I don't like going to the rooms in the saunas...is like 40 mins maybe, used to be an hour ages ago. But they won't throw you out or come knocking, they'll just charge you double the rental rate.1 point -
SP or Rio now?
Xclay reacted to HiThereAll for a topic
I think you have to be more careful due to your frailty. Some folks can blend in and get around ok, plus speaking some of local language always helps. I would agree that you do not want to be the only person on the street.1 point -
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Excellent post, thanks very much! Your experiences sound generally similar to my own. I find the guys at Natural Spa to be cute & appealing but none of the (maybe 3?) sessions I had there were totally satisfactory. As for S'Sense, sorry to say but I am not a fan of that place either.1 point
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Burmese & Vietnam Bar/Massage Boys
gytis123 reacted to ChristianPFC for a topic
My rating of money boys in Thailand is the following: I value Myanmar higher than Thai and Vietnamese lower, based on plenty of experience with Myanmar and little experience with Vietnamese. My experience is the contrary, I value Myanmar people, be it in Myanmar or in Thailand, the highest of everywhere I have travelled in SEAsia. In particular I found that the poorer / more oppressed the people are, the nicer / more generous they are towards me. I don't think so. They (and other migrant workers) do work that no Thai would want to do. If they were causing troubles, the Thai would quickly send them back.1 point -
Rats in Silom đ
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Apologies in advance, but I am about to hijack this topic 𤪠There's the term "gym rats" which is used to mean folks who spend perhaps half their lives in gyms, obsessively building muscle. Then there's the danger of using such terms in the company of Thais for whom English is not the first language. So... There was once when a newly minted Thai friend and I went to a gym. Neither of us had bodies one would associate with gyms but we thought it would be good to at least do something for fitness sake. So we went. Bad choice. It was a gym for very serious body builders. The men there (I don't recall seeing any women) were almost obsessive compulsive in their workouts, and we looked like pathetic wimps in their company. We got looks (or more likely, self-conscious me imagined we got looks) that kind-of queried us, what are you two doing here? I remarked to my Thai friend that maybe we should look for another gym, at least the next time. "Why? What's wrong?" he asked. "This place is full of gym rats," I whispered, which I thought was more than obvious why. "Eeeeeeeek" ran off my friend. I had to run after him as (this time) real looks focussed on us. I'm pretty sure he never actually saw a physical rat.1 point -
Day 3 Prince The last time I went to prince was probably before covid. What I like about it, it's abig place, with a fish tank. Guys were chilling behind a glass wall, gymming, lying down, working out, playing with their phone. You could sit in a chair in front of the glass wall and sip your glass of iced tea. Interesting concept that I don't see anywhere else anymore. Last other massage place I remember that had it was Hero - like 10 years ago or sth. Guys were more of more bigger build, less twinks, abit more refined than Arena. Feels like the guys from Senso in the past. ( I actually didn't visit Senso this visit. Sadly, when I messaged the Senso line account, was a bit surprised that most of the guys seem to have changed, and there wasn't anyone that I particularly fancied. Quite different from the lineup of guys I saw in the past. Not much muscle/jocks anymore, now seems more twinks) Room was 1.1k for 1h, minimum tip was 1500. I didn't had to choose a guy because I have been messaging this masseur I met from my previous trip before. So I set up an appointment with him beforehand. Met him from Senso previously, and he's since moved to Prince now. Apparently few guys moved over from Senso to Prince once it reopened. Fairly new, there was still some mild construction work ongoing. But overall felt similar to the old Prince. Recommend if you like the thrill of seeing the guys up live. But yet at an acceptable distance for those who are slightly more socially anxious. Rooms are nicer than Arena, decent and clean, but not as fancy as Jey/Senso. Basic but acceptable. Jey Spa Went back to Jey again. They just have too many hot masseurs to choose from. Chose a straight guy called Mai. He had really hot tattoos, had a strong build and hot bod. Able to hug and grope that strong bod and suck him. Sauna Mania As seen on their line, there was a foam party event. Went to their Onsen/hot pool and just soaked inside, and met a guy from China. Fairly cute. He sat beside me in the onsen and very gradually moved on from sitting nearer and nearer and then touching, groping, making out and then sucking hehe. While this was happening there were probably 2-3 other guys in the hot pool. So it was kinda hot getting it on in front of others haha. The pool was maybe 1m by 5m wide. Went down to the dark maze to find a room to lie down and made out/suck more. Then heard the announcement for the party so went up. There were many hot models as usual. This time I was really a ferocious hoe. Went to grope, suck, lick the abs and nipples of several models - think at least 4 or 5 of them. Cant' help it. They were so hot. One was a very popular only fans creator and appeared in several thai videos. Then started the foam which was slightly awkward, because it mainly just filled the room from one end. So one end of the room had foam all the way to the ceiling, and the other side was empty. But it kind of added a different flavour to the usual orgy parties. So a sea of naked guys, with foam, about 10 hot models, some who were fucking each other, some fucking guests, some getting fucked by guests, and some just being groped/sucked all over by guests. Event lasted about an hour. It was hott. Saw this model that I played with in the sauna party from at least few years back - I called him Teddy bear cuz he looked like one and was so good to hug and I was sooo happy, went to suck him and lick his abs, chest, nipples and hugged him hehe.. As the event was ending, the host encouraged us to wank, and the models were kneeling in a circle with guests around them. The models helped to wank off the guests, some were sucking the guests off. And the guests could wank onto the models chest, 1-2 allowed on the face. Hott. (LMAO writing this whole paragraph and im getting hard already) After the party went to the onsen to relax again. Ended up bumping into that same Chinese guy in the hot pool. Went to find another room to have more fun. As we both hadn't jerked off yet we decided to mutually cum. As I was jerking off I told him to cum first but he whispered into my ears " I want you to cum first inside my mouth" so as I jerked off we deep kissed and he licked my nipples and sucked me and I eventually came. Which he lapped up - hott. Then as I wanted to help him wank off he said " Oh it's okay i don't need to cum." lol. I bet he just wanted to find more guys to have fun with ( cuz I told him I don't Fk). True enough as I went up to shower I saw him disappear back into the dark maze. Okay. Dreamboys Went to dreamboys again. Unfortunately didn't see anyone that I really really wanted to off, even though I wanted to. There were some boys I thought were not bad but they quickly got offed - I need to be faster next time >.< In front of me were these 2 chinese women, fairly attractive, perhaps in their 20-30s. They were drinking a lot with 3 bar boys that they sat with and eventually offed. Hmm I wonder what they were going to do. I actually wonder if women actually have the kind of fun with these boys that we men do, or is it just drinking/clubbing/dancing etc. GOD Last stop of the day was to GOD /G Bangkok - impromptu because I originally planned to off a guy from dreamboy. When I came here on Day 2, I only went after DJ station closed at 2am. And GOD closed like 3am, so was only there for < 1h. So this time wanted to stay there longer, and partake in more craziness.. went there about midnight. So I bumped into 2 bar boys from dreamboy here. One of them ( Boy 1) recognised me ( I recognised him too) from the Bar earlier and brought me to his friends. So there were 2 bar boys (Boy 1 & 2), and 2 of their friends (Friend 1 & 2). I tried to size up if his friends were bar boys too - didn't manage to 100% get the answer but seemed like they weren't - definitely not from dreamboys because i probably would recognise them, and Friend 2 didn't look like a working boy. Because I was trying to assess the dynamics of what was going on, cause Friend 1 was dancing/drinking with me throughout the night. Even though honestly I much fancied Boy 2 haha, which I danced with for awhile. Pretty soon with all of the drinks and music it's largely a blur now. But I ended up with Friend 1 back in my hotel. He is fairly cute and can pass for a bar boy, but yet our interaction seemed to be like just meeting a guy in the club. So wasn't sure what was going to happen in the hotel/transaction wise. But anyway we were both so drunk we just knocked out anyway immediately in bed. But I did pay for supper and then brunch the next day lol. Though I understand it's not uncommon for the foreign guy to treat meals of thai guys instead of going dutch even if it's like a date or something. Eventually I figured he wasn't a MB/bar boy so luckily i didn't mention anything about $. Now it was this point that I extended my trip by a day LOL. My original trip was supposed to be 5 days. And I realllly fancied Boy 2. If I was going to do anything with him, it'll be Day 4 night overlapping into waking up early on Day 5 to leave the hotel which dosen't sound fun. So postponed my flight and then hotel for another day LMAO. Troublesome but sooo worth it, as you'll find out more on Day 4 đ1 point
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New to Thailand - sex questions
Mavica reacted to KeepItReal for a topic
Information may be freely available on the internet, but @YoungWesternTop you should discuss with a medical professional before making a decision around medication and your health.1 point -
I used to visit Chiang Mai regularly over many, many years and loved those trips. More recently, having seen the sights many times, been to Doi Inthanon to see the waterfalls, visited the orchid farms and ridden on elephants, I find the nights quite boring. I found the Night Bazaar bars dead! (That's really a misnomer as there are no longer any bars actually in the Night Bazaar whereas there used to be around 6 - even those behind the D2 hotel have vanished - as @musgrave points out there are a few on Soi 6 on the other side of the main road). Doing a bar hop on Soi 6, they had a few customers who seemed to be long time expats and a handful of not particularly attractive boys either playing pool or glued to their phones. So many of the good and fun bars have closed - many before covid. If you have not enjoyed the old town and the scenery, Chiang Mai is certainly worth a visit. As a gay venue, keep your expectations low. Adam's Apple with the boys in shorts and shirt tops? This used to be such an exciting bar with nudity. Alas for progress!1 point
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You do not need to be "found innocent". The basis of UK law is a presumption of innocence or "Innocent until proven guilty". It's only in the media and social media where guilt is assumed based on what sells papers or clicks.1 point
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Iâm back! Bangkok trip report July 2023
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Their Michelin 7* rating speaks for itself đ1 point -
New to Thailand - sex questions
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It must be clear by now, even to you, Mavic, that there will never be an end to this yarn. You're obviously frustrated that you've been taken in by a newbie way above your pay grade. đ1 point -
Best GoGo Bar
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Yes I remember those glory days Dongtan in years 2001/2 . Any ladies or str couples making the mistake of sitting there would quickly realise that they were in the wrong section of the beach unless they were there for a little voyeuring watching us gays with our Thai boyfriends. But you are right about just going there to relax and enjoy sea breezes and have a small meal and perhaps reading a book purchased from one of the second hand bookshops. Agree about Koh Larn for a day trip, although it gets rather crowded in high season. Nual or âmonkey beachâ at the south end of the island is my usual choice despite being some distance from the ferry. Some boys enjoy the trip away from the chaos of Pattaya.1 point -
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Thanks for the above suggestions! Day 1 so landed in Suvarnabhumi airport in the afternoon. Immigration was quite fast, probably about 10 minutes or so. Then took a cab to my time and trusted Le Meridien hotel. I love the hotel because its nice and no issues bringing your guest back to the room. Arena Massage I always go here first because its one of the nearest to my hotel. This time I took a grab there instead of walking, although its only less than a km. In the past i always walk there under the sun and the walk always gets me horned up and sweaty thinking of whats to come. This time I arrived freshly showered. Menu for 1h 1.5h and 2h. Masseur tip for 1.5h was 1200 requested - i think by far one of the lowest ive seen. Oil massage for 1.5h was 790, aromatherapy was 990. Silly me chose aromatherapy, not much difference to oil. Furthermore I chose peppermint oil flavour (idk why man) which awkwardly caused a bit of burn to my c0ck when applied. Will go for oil in future. Upon entering, over 10 shirtless zaddies staring at me. Gosh this always makes me gulp like im taking a viva exam. I saw a masseur i had before - Nuk. He is handsome, muscular, has a hot tattoo, hot abs and he is very nice, and does a good hard massage. i love how arena has a unique vibe. I would describe it as oily, sweaty, mechanic, gym vibe. This aint a romantic boyfriend restaurant. Your shirtless oiled up car mechanic is here to pound you and you say yes sir and pay him anyway. Pic of my room. Basic but serves its purpose. I had a lovely massage, was hard and sensual, really felt relaxed after, and I was feeling his hard oiled up body and groping all over yums. Just so hottt to see a hot guy being all oiled up and over you. 2000 in tips to boy. R3 Sauna Grabbed over to R3 sauna. I checked with their line account before hand whether there was any parties happening. O parties at R3 fri sat, sauna mania foam party on sunday. I love attending these parties because its a chaotic hot mess. About 10 hot models, some were fucking each other. And then the public joins in. There was this super hot model that i suscribed to onlyfans for awhile back, and he âactedâ in several thai scenes. Went to grope and lick him heh. But he was so popular there was a whole queue of people lining up to fuck him. It was so hot to just see this super hot model taking it from anyone who wants to fuck him, including obviously less hot guys. Kind of a kink ha. There were people fucking and getting fucked by models, sucking, groping all over. Hot Chaotic mess. I was probably exhausted from the recent massage so mainly eye powered and groped around instead. Dreamboys Bar Grabbed back to silom and went to dreamboys. 500 for entrance + drink. I came abit late like 11pm. Shows ongoing till 1am. Was quite full house and lots of boys. Now there was a little bit of drama. I saw a guy that I offed before, and although we had lots of fun previously, he kept asking for money months after we met over the apps. So I didnt really respond back because I didnt really know what to respond. Then now in the bar with him around and waving to me i got nervous and didnt really want to off anyone else, although there wasnât any that I was like super super interested in, there were few guys my type. LOL. Anyways, stayed to have a look around at people offing boys, 1 or 2 decent routines with hot shirtless guys. I left empty handed at 1am sadly. Jackd After showering and lying on my bed I thought to myself, did I really just left a bar empty handed on a friday night. So I opened the apps and not long after, found a hot muscular abs zaddy on Jackd. 2500 he quoted. Only took him about 20 minutes to comeover. Finally had my hot full on sex meal for the day. I told him I liked kissing and we ended up making out like forever, licking his hot body and abs and sucking each other. And I ended day 1 at 3am with a goodnights sleep.1 point
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Best GoGo Bar
BL8gPt reacted to Travellerdave for a topic
Londoners account has just resonated with me as it has similarities to my own experience. My first visit to Thailand was in year 2001 in company with another gay friend. We had been discussing going on holiday to Spain in a gay pub when a stranger joined our conversation by recommending we go instead to Thailand, specifically to Pattaya, where he said we could enjoy lots of sex with attractive young guys. He spent some time giving us essential travel information such as flights, transport, where to stay, etc etc, at the conclusion of which we decided to take his advice and go a few weeks later. For us it was an incredible three weeks, not just for the sex (there was plenty of that, specifically with twinks from the BT and Sunee gogos) but as for Londoner the sights, sounds and smells of the exotic atmosphere, and also for the low cost with ÂŁ1 purchasing 70 baht. I canât remember whether we actually went to the beach on that trip - the bars and boys were probably too much of a magnet, but I certainly took advantage during subsequent visits when beach pickups were an additional source of boys for my bed, rather than the less than ideal sea and sand at Dongtan. Short visits to Bkk did later in my life feature including several to Babylon, but as a twink lover Pattaya has always been the place for me, despite visits over the years to a few of the well known other beach resorts.1 point -
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Lucky reacted to floridarob for a topic
You'd get to show off your legs at the beach or try the metal tables restaurant in Boystown area or best yet, meet gayinpattaya in person đ But seriously, it's worth a trip at least once to experience it...not like getting on a plane to Phuket or CM, that's too much work for the payout.1 point -
The annual MedellĂn mega-event takes place from 28 July to 7 August with the annual Desfile des los silleteros -- the incredible flower displays carried by local Paisas on their backs. The programming is outlined here (EN) https://www.medellinadvisors.com/la-feria-de-las-flores/ Always LOTS happening in the city during the Feria, and I am always happy to be back with my Paisa family. See you then.1 point