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2 bad experience with 2 nation and you start bashing the whole country? Racist much?

My rating of money boys in Thailand is the following: I value Myanmar higher than Thai and Vietnamese lower, based on plenty of experience with Myanmar and little experience with Vietnamese. My experience is the contrary, I value Myanmar people, be it in Myanmar or in Thailand, the highest of everywhere I have travelled in SEAsia. In particular I found that the poorer / more oppressed the people are, the nicer / more generous they are towards me. I don't think so. They (and other migrant workers) do work that no Thai would want to do. If they were causing troubles, the Thai would quickly send them back.

Apologies in advance, but I am about to hijack this topic 🤪 There's the term "gym rats" which is used to mean folks who spend perhaps half their lives in gyms, obsessively building muscle. Then there's the danger of using such terms in the company of Thais for whom English is not the first language. So... There was once when a newly minted Thai friend and I went to a gym. Neither of us had bodies one would associate with gyms but we thought it would be good to at least do something for fitness sake. So we went. Bad choice. It was a gym for very serious body builders. The men there (I don't recall seeing any women) were almost obsessive compulsive in their workouts, and we looked like pathetic wimps in their company. We got looks (or more likely, self-conscious me imagined we got looks) that kind-of queried us, what are you two doing here? I remarked to my Thai friend that maybe we should look for another gym, at least the next time. "Why? What's wrong?" he asked. "This place is full of gym rats," I whispered, which I thought was more than obvious why. "Eeeeeeeek" ran off my friend. I had to run after him as (this time) real looks focussed on us. I'm pretty sure he never actually saw a physical rat.

Well you have to claim gayinpattaya as he's one of yours 🙊

25 yrs in Thailand and been with 2 Burmese & 2 Vietnamese, can't wait until you try and African. Imagine if we all bases our opinions of an entire population on 2 experiences, everyone would hate Americans more than they already do..... you make gayinpattaya seem like a reasonable saint 😱

As to summer vacation destinations for gays from U.K. and other Northern European countries I would say that Spanish Mediterranean resorts are the most popular followed by those in Greece or maybe Portugal. I myself used to go to Maspalomas on the island of Gran Canaria where being much younger 20 years ago and rather fit I very much enjoyed the beach (there is a gay section) and the thriving nightlife. The travel involved only relatively short flights of around 4.5 hours with mainland resorts only about 3 hours and once there, gays experience zero significant problems. SE Asia principally Thailand attracts a small and declining older (+50 years) minority for all the reasons covered in this forum, attracted by Asian guys and the exotic ambience . I only know of one other who has visited South America (Brazil & Cuba),

What a load of utter trash! Troubled personalities a result of their governments? Absolute nonsense! Which planet do you live on?

“Alien comes up to me. Big tears in his eyes. ‘Sir. We’ve been watching your planet for millions of years. And we’ve never seen anyone treated so unfairly…. Perhaps….the most unfair treatment of anyone in the entire universe throughout all of history…Ever. Just nasty nasty people.’“

So you've made this judgement based on a few alleged interactions. And you expect us to believe that mamasans talk trash about their own boys. Unbelievable. You way want to consider that it's you and not them who's the most unsociable. This speaks for itself. Have you considered the possibility that you're not suitable to patronize massage shops. Even Freud would would be at wit's end, trying to unravel that trash. On top of that, you're asking us to believe that--after 25 years in Thailand--you suddenly found this forum, selected the handle "truncheon" (short stick carried by police; a billy club) and penned this absurdity. Why didn't you simply post under the screen name you normally use here?

A new member's first post and he's bad mouthing Burmese, Lao and Vietnamese guys across the board. Absolutely ridiculous.This is another hoax. There are few posters here with more recent experience in Saphan Kwai and Silom area shops than me and my experiences have been the total opposite. I can recommend K-Man, KK Massage and One Spa in Saphan Kwai without hesitation, and any shop in the Silom-Surawong rectangle.

From The Thaiger Yesterday marked the kick-off of an unprecedented six-day holiday. Pattaya‘s beaches and tourist hotspots were abuzz as visitors flocked, particularly to Koh Larn, a stunning island located roughly 7 kilometres from the coast. According to local accommodation providers, the entirety of the island’s estimated 3,000 rooms were booked out. The rush of tourists, both Thai and foreign, regularly set sail from Bali Hai pier in South Pattaya to the island. In response to the influx, the Pattaya City Municipality in collaboration with the Marine Office mobilised officials to assist in managing the crowd at the pier. Safety standards were paramount and authorities worked with ferry operators to assert strict adherence to safety guidelines regarding the number of passengers aboard each boat. Furthermore, passengers were mandated to don life jackets during the journey. Anticipating the surge, additional parking was secured to cater for the increased volume of vehicles, according to local authorities. This significant rise in room demand for Koh Larn can be attributed to the recently approved proposal by the cabinet secretariat. This unusual declaration declared an additional ‘special’ public holiday. This extended the typical vacation period from July 28 to August 2, in a move to rejuvenate tourism. Moreover, this elongated break overlapped with other set holidays such as His Majesty the King’s birthday, Asanha Bucha Day, and the commencement of the Buddhist Lent. Related news

I'm on my way home after a few amazing days in Bangkok. Before my trip I read this forum from top to bottom and took copious notes on the Bangkok massage scene, places to go, etc. I took a lot of notes to help me remember for my next visit. I wish I could share therapist names here because they are not all created equal and I ran into some total duds as well as some amazing ones. Here's my take on the massage places: 1. S'sense massage - by far my worst experience and the only massage I walked out on in the middle. When I arrived, they did the "bait and switch" and said my therapist was not available but tried to offer me another one who was not my type. I asked for someone else and they gave me one who was cute but a total dud. I laid there bored while the therapist gave me a massage that seemed to focus on the calves and feet FOREVER. Zero fun stuff. I remembered reading on this forum that if you're in that situation, just get up and walk out, and I did just that. I hopped into a Grab (that app is awesome! The way Uber was when it first launched... clean cars great drivers cheap cheap cheap) and went to PARADISE... 2. Paradise is on the street with all the gay massage places in Silom 6. Basically by my third day therapists recognized me and told me they saw me walking the street HAHAHAHAHA. Small town. It's clean, friendly, and I had one of my best therapists there... good lord he was huge and ready for action. Not the cutest but again this forum indicated that the cuter they are the less they do and that's usually right based on my experience this week. Did I mention huge? Anyway excellent masssage and double x 2 happiness. 3. Relax Massage - my husband went here, right across from Paradise (he also checked out Mr. Big at Paradise) and had a good massage with a cute guy. They are running a "rainy season special" and are half the price of Paradise. Great value. 4. JeySPA.... you knew this one was coming! This consistently ranks high on this forum so my final day there I splurged (it's definitely spendy with a tip of 1500 baht) ... I was very clear what I was looking for (big everything with six pack abs) and OH MY GOD did they deliver. They sent photos that let me know exactly what I was in for. That was one of my best massages in Bangkok (best massage of the trip was in Samui, but that's a different post...) Very clean and yes as others have said, horrible traffic in that area so I took a Grab but wished I had taken the train. Easy to find with Google maps. You can negotiate on the room price. 5. Prime - 90 min head/feet and then 90 min Thai by the same guy who was touchy but Prime doesn't seem to go beyond massage and that's fine... it was just amazing. Great massage with great technique, clean, and they give you pajamas (I didn't wear the top) and you just feel like you're being pampered. 6. Green Massage - I wish I had time to go here... looked good and would love to read someone else's feedback 7. 9-Teen - on same road with 2 & 3 above, they did the bait and switch again when I arrived... I rejected their substitution and they found someone suitable, but he started negotiating tip in middle of massage before he would even remove his shirt. That was a HUGE turnoff and I felt like I was in a used car lot all of a sudden. All the other therapists at other places were much more subtle or trusted you to tip the min 1000 baht. My husband ran into the same thing. We did not return here and cancelled subsequent appointments we had made. 8. Natural Spa - super friendly guys and one of my cuter therapists (straight, small assets) worked there then kept in touch on Line but I didn't return due to aforementioned small assets. Room smelled musty and towels weren't fresh smelling. But they do seem to have cuter guys than the others.... I wouldn't rule them out next time but wish their rooms were cleaner. This also seems to be the feedback on Google reviews. 9. Magic Touch Massage with Mr. Tree... this was our first massage in Bangkok and was very mediocre. Shower didn't work and therapist wasn't very skilled in anything. Would not recommend. Things I learned: 1. This is all really close to the Skytrain. When we first arrived we had some trouble with Google maps and it seemed like we walked all over. Silom 6 is maybe 8 mins from the station and there's lots to see on the way. 2. Great lunch spot in the heart of it all is Mango Tree Surawong. If you're a massage whore like we are, book 11 am massages, then lunch at Mango, then walk 2 mins to Prime for a real massage, happy finish at Paradise or Relax/Natural Spa. 3. This I haven't figured out but I developed some theories on this. Most guys who weren't that into it I asked if they were straight and yes they were. As a top that provides limited options for me which is why I was going for SIZE and appearance. One guy showed me photos of his girlfriend. They are all really sweet but I wish there were a way to color code the t-shirts... red is top, blue is bottom, purple is both.... I assume the blue shirts would be the gay guys but I may be making an incorrect assumption there. I think next time I'll try to ask for some bottoms even though I don't want to do anything more than play... see #4 below... 4. These guys have got to be riddled with all sorts of diseases. NO way would I consider anything unsafe, but I was able to have a lot of fun nonetheless. It does seem like most of the clients go there to just get PLOWED because everytime I got on a massage table they went straight for my butt and I had to make the universal sign for no intercourse but just playing. I do not hold any judgment against anyone who wants to take more risks, I am just saying that once I got there and saw the guys and the environment and the steady stream of customers I knew that my shields were going to be up and I would still have fun. AND I DID. (See JeySpa again). 5. I did not go to 15M based on feedback on this forum. 6. The drag (?) cabaret at Asiatique was AMAZING!! Calypso!! We were grinning ear to ear the entire show... if you buy tickets, buy them from their site (not Klook or resellers) and put in comments you are gay and excited to see show. We did that and they gave us the best seats in the house. (Seats are assigned by them earlier in the day, then they print tickets when you arrive)... huge highlight of our visit. It would be fun to see with a group - the audience was all reserved asians for the most parts and there were points where we were the only ones clapping and cheering them on. Those boys were working hard and dancing their asses off. 7. I walked through Silom 4 and loved the drag show there, but felt sort of self conscious as I was dressed for dinner at Vertigo and it was really strange walking the catwalk (street) with all the chairs and tables facing you... I needed someone to show me the ropes. My masseur from Natural Massage offered to come with me but he didn't speak English and I wanted some alone time. 8. Really regret not having time to try The Green Massage. I hope this helps someone else who may fit our profile (newbie, more conservative, clueless and naive at times, see newbie part). Thanks to all who have posted here offering advice and help… I found it immensely useful as I planned our trip!!

I wonder where Cambodians come in this "league"? Or what about Isaan guys as opposed to Songkla or Chiang Rai ones? As for character being based on the conduct of heaven's sake, I'm British! how would you like to be judged on that basis?

I stayed in Barra....most of the guys I've liked in Rio and SP are from Salvador, so I figured I'd go to the Motherland and be overwhelmed. It was nice, but the guys go to Rio and SP and that's where you'll find them, lol Was a nice trip, been a couple of times, but wouldn't race back if my motive was whoring around.

Samui is a very small island. Somehow I was able to read that text, go in and have a wonderful time.

Iv been with Lao, Thai, Cambodia, Burmese and Vietnamese boys. I keep my expectations at a reasonable level and never find myself disappointed. I try to keep in mind that I am getting to spend intimate time with these beautiful younger guys. That in itself is the reward.

Day 3 Prince The last time I went to prince was probably before covid. What I like about it, it's abig place, with a fish tank. Guys were chilling behind a glass wall, gymming, lying down, working out, playing with their phone. You could sit in a chair in front of the glass wall and sip your glass of iced tea. Interesting concept that I don't see anywhere else anymore. Last other massage place I remember that had it was Hero - like 10 years ago or sth. Guys were more of more bigger build, less twinks, abit more refined than Arena. Feels like the guys from Senso in the past. ( I actually didn't visit Senso this visit. Sadly, when I messaged the Senso line account, was a bit surprised that most of the guys seem to have changed, and there wasn't anyone that I particularly fancied. Quite different from the lineup of guys I saw in the past. Not much muscle/jocks anymore, now seems more twinks) Room was 1.1k for 1h, minimum tip was 1500. I didn't had to choose a guy because I have been messaging this masseur I met from my previous trip before. So I set up an appointment with him beforehand. Met him from Senso previously, and he's since moved to Prince now. Apparently few guys moved over from Senso to Prince once it reopened. Fairly new, there was still some mild construction work ongoing. But overall felt similar to the old Prince. Recommend if you like the thrill of seeing the guys up live. But yet at an acceptable distance for those who are slightly more socially anxious. Rooms are nicer than Arena, decent and clean, but not as fancy as Jey/Senso. Basic but acceptable. Jey Spa Went back to Jey again. They just have too many hot masseurs to choose from. Chose a straight guy called Mai. He had really hot tattoos, had a strong build and hot bod. Able to hug and grope that strong bod and suck him. Sauna Mania As seen on their line, there was a foam party event. Went to their Onsen/hot pool and just soaked inside, and met a guy from China. Fairly cute. He sat beside me in the onsen and very gradually moved on from sitting nearer and nearer and then touching, groping, making out and then sucking hehe. While this was happening there were probably 2-3 other guys in the hot pool. So it was kinda hot getting it on in front of others haha. The pool was maybe 1m by 5m wide. Went down to the dark maze to find a room to lie down and made out/suck more. Then heard the announcement for the party so went up. There were many hot models as usual. This time I was really a ferocious hoe. Went to grope, suck, lick the abs and nipples of several models - think at least 4 or 5 of them. Cant' help it. They were so hot. One was a very popular only fans creator and appeared in several thai videos. Then started the foam which was slightly awkward, because it mainly just filled the room from one end. So one end of the room had foam all the way to the ceiling, and the other side was empty. But it kind of added a different flavour to the usual orgy parties. So a sea of naked guys, with foam, about 10 hot models, some who were fucking each other, some fucking guests, some getting fucked by guests, and some just being groped/sucked all over by guests. Event lasted about an hour. It was hott. Saw this model that I played with in the sauna party from at least few years back - I called him Teddy bear cuz he looked like one and was so good to hug and I was sooo happy, went to suck him and lick his abs, chest, nipples and hugged him hehe.. As the event was ending, the host encouraged us to wank, and the models were kneeling in a circle with guests around them. The models helped to wank off the guests, some were sucking the guests off. And the guests could wank onto the models chest, 1-2 allowed on the face. Hott. (LMAO writing this whole paragraph and im getting hard already) After the party went to the onsen to relax again. Ended up bumping into that same Chinese guy in the hot pool. Went to find another room to have more fun. As we both hadn't jerked off yet we decided to mutually cum. As I was jerking off I told him to cum first but he whispered into my ears " I want you to cum first inside my mouth" so as I jerked off we deep kissed and he licked my nipples and sucked me and I eventually came. Which he lapped up - hott. Then as I wanted to help him wank off he said " Oh it's okay i don't need to cum." lol. I bet he just wanted to find more guys to have fun with ( cuz I told him I don't Fk). True enough as I went up to shower I saw him disappear back into the dark maze. Okay. Dreamboys Went to dreamboys again. Unfortunately didn't see anyone that I really really wanted to off, even though I wanted to. There were some boys I thought were not bad but they quickly got offed - I need to be faster next time >.< In front of me were these 2 chinese women, fairly attractive, perhaps in their 20-30s. They were drinking a lot with 3 bar boys that they sat with and eventually offed. Hmm I wonder what they were going to do. I actually wonder if women actually have the kind of fun with these boys that we men do, or is it just drinking/clubbing/dancing etc. GOD Last stop of the day was to GOD /G Bangkok - impromptu because I originally planned to off a guy from dreamboy. When I came here on Day 2, I only went after DJ station closed at 2am. And GOD closed like 3am, so was only there for < 1h. So this time wanted to stay there longer, and partake in more craziness.. went there about midnight. So I bumped into 2 bar boys from dreamboy here. One of them ( Boy 1) recognised me ( I recognised him too) from the Bar earlier and brought me to his friends. So there were 2 bar boys (Boy 1 & 2), and 2 of their friends (Friend 1 & 2). I tried to size up if his friends were bar boys too - didn't manage to 100% get the answer but seemed like they weren't - definitely not from dreamboys because i probably would recognise them, and Friend 2 didn't look like a working boy. Because I was trying to assess the dynamics of what was going on, cause Friend 1 was dancing/drinking with me throughout the night. Even though honestly I much fancied Boy 2 haha, which I danced with for awhile. Pretty soon with all of the drinks and music it's largely a blur now. But I ended up with Friend 1 back in my hotel. He is fairly cute and can pass for a bar boy, but yet our interaction seemed to be like just meeting a guy in the club. So wasn't sure what was going to happen in the hotel/transaction wise. But anyway we were both so drunk we just knocked out anyway immediately in bed. But I did pay for supper and then brunch the next day lol. Though I understand it's not uncommon for the foreign guy to treat meals of thai guys instead of going dutch even if it's like a date or something. Eventually I figured he wasn't a MB/bar boy so luckily i didn't mention anything about $. Now it was this point that I extended my trip by a day LOL. My original trip was supposed to be 5 days. And I realllly fancied Boy 2. If I was going to do anything with him, it'll be Day 4 night overlapping into waking up early on Day 5 to leave the hotel which dosen't sound fun. So postponed my flight and then hotel for another day LMAO. Troublesome but sooo worth it, as you'll find out more on Day 4 😃

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Hi Orson, I think we aren't supposed to share names on the public forum. DM me if you want and I can lead you to hugeville.

I'm heading to Sao Paulo next week and just discovered on IG that Erick Diaz, star of gay porn in Brazil, is hosting his 23rd birthday party at a mansion on Saturday, August 5, in the suburbs of SP. A dozen or more other gay porn stars will be there. Tickets are 50BRL. I don't know what to expect but I am excited by the prospect of this unexpected adventure. https://www.instagram.com/paraisodadiversidade/

How is it possible that there are so many beautiful guys in Thailand. I don't have enough time in the day or energy to see them. If you have not been to Thailand before, get off your ass and get on a plane to visit. You can't go a day without finding someone that will blow your mind!

From The Nation In an effort to boost tourism and revenue, the northern province of Chiang Rai is now looking to woo tourists interested in getting tattoos at cheap prices. For this, local authorities and businesses got together to launch the “Tattoo Body Artists” and “Amazing Body Art @ Chiangrai” promotions at Central Chiang Rai shopping mall on Saturday. Showcased at the events were displays of body art created by local tattoo shops. Luethaipat Pimonsree, deputy director of the University of Phayao’s Innovative Learning Institute, said the events were held as part of Chiang Rai’s “Creative City of Design” campaign, which is in line with the Creative Cities global network initiated by the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation (Unesco). She said Chiang Rai tattoo artists are known for their skill and for providing top service at inexpensive prices. Hence, she said, the campaign aims to attract tattoo lovers to visit the northern province. “When domestic and foreign tourists learn that Chiang Rai has many skilful tattoo artists offering service at reasonable prices, they will come here for new tattoos,” Luethaipat said. “This will help stimulate the local economy in many ways.” Tirapat Thongbai, a tattoo enthusiast, said he believes body art will bring more revenue to Chiang Rai when tattoo lovers like him visit for a new emblem. He said Thai tattoo artists offer a wide variety of designs, ranging from the traditional Thai “sak yant” pattern to colourful, modern creations. Continues with photos https://www.nationthailand.com/thailand/tourism/40029795

@floridarob very usefull. Thanks! I'll reconsider then...Return flight to sao paulo and a in between flight to rio is the plan now.

I have messaged some boys who do onlyfans or Line group (with entry fees) on other channels. They sent me links to their paid content. But I don't work that way, I don't believe in advance payment in any form. As tempting as some of them are, rather skip and look elsewhere. If they were willing to meet at all, I doubt it would be for 1000 which is my going rate (i.e. what I pay). The gap (10 USD = 330 THB to look at previously recorded material vs. 1000 THB to meet me) is just too small for them to make it worth for them to meet me, and for me to pay to look.

I had very hot dates in Fortaleza, both paid and unpaid. A the city is worth the visit.

I have been in a nude gay resort in southern fance: classy, very friendly, interesting international gossip, nice bar, nice excursions around, very good food nearby, no sex (was a place for 15-20 people and no match). I was invited by one younger couple to join their city tour, they had a rental car. Rather expensive place. I have not returned, although it was a nice experience. Southern france is totally gay friendly. Many gay beaches, one near Canne (overpriced city) was rather difficult to approach, I remember climbing some walls and running over rail tracks (I hoped it was not TGV)😀. Similarly to germans, french guys respect various kinks and I find this charming.

I had 2 Vietnamese guys one of them for long term it was not perfect experience but it wasn't so bad either the second one from Screw Boys bar was amazingly beutiful and very good in bed so saying all Vietnamese are terrible is shallow generalization.

Some people don,t have sense if humor or simply don,t like animals.

And we can,t wait for your report

I think @vinapu would disagree with you there, lol

I've lived in maybe the most conservative Mexican state for 11 years now 🤨

I was surprised to see the Colombians were very tollerat and open minded to gays , all were very nice, polite and some even smiled when they saw me and my Colombian friend walking and holding hands.

What Vinapu said. Even 9-TEEN in Silom6 said "no sex" when asked... if they advertise sex, they are a brothel. If they advertise massage, they are a spa. Remember, it is the land of smiles. and winks. (and twinks..) 😁

From The Nation Protesters call on Pheu Thai to maintain coalition integrity Pro-democracy protesters gathered at the Ratchaprasong junction in Bangkok on Thursday, demanding the resignation of senators and that the eight-party coalition remains intact and maintains its stance on forming a government. Several groups of protesters including the United Front of Thammasat and Demonstration, Mokeluang Rimnam, ThaluWang and People's Movement for a Just Society (P-Move), began demonstrating at 5pm. Protesters put up placards on the pedestrian bridge and sprayed messages on the road. They also staged a mock hanging from the pedestrian walkway in memory of the protesters who died during the demonstrations against the government led by former PM Abhisit Vejjajiva in 2010. Protesters urged senators to listen to the people's voice and Pheu Thai Party to maintain its stance on forming a democratic government with Move Forward Party. They also urged political parties and senators to stop thinking that amending the lese-majeste law aims to overthrow the monarchy, saying that it instead has the objective of seeking a fair and just solution for the country. If Pheu Thai betrays the coalition, it will face punishment from the people, said political activist Thatchapong Kaedam, adding that the party should strictly adhere to its stance to escape conservative parties' schemes. He added that former PM Thaksin Shinawatra and activists who fled Thailand to escape political charges had the right to return home, adding that all parties should respect the people's vote in a bid to prevent a repeat of the clashes between protesters and riot police at Din Daeng junction last year.

The club say 'No' as otherwise they may not get a license or renewal. Of course as hinted in other posts above then perhaps in the privacy of the massage room who knows; to quote a famous USA quiz show: "if the price is right". The unofficial answer is perhaps "Yes'. TiT.

@Mavica times have def changed, not saying that things like that don't still happen, but soooo rare and the people doing that are then ostracized.

the age-restricted trailer for Playboyy the Series. Quite erotic. No idea where it will be streaming though...

End of 2021 when tourist numbers where still low and I was walking along Surawong Road in the night in sandals, rats were running over my feet more than one time. I dont know who was more shocked, me or the rats.

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Hua Hin has some really nice hotels, especially the ones along the beach. If you're looking to just relax, its great. A lot quieter than Pattaya or BKK.

What a succint review of all the massage places! in the past when i went prince, the mamasan asked all the tops to take a step forward, then later on the bottoms haha.. but in general can just ask the shop manager before hand who is top , who can bottom. Can even ask who is gay or straight.

I agree that 2 or 3 days is good for a Khao Yai break. I have the impression that it's a popular weekend trip for Bangkokians. I did it with a tour guide friend of mine who organized a private car and driver, etc. For 2 or 3 days I think Hua Hin is fine. But I can see where a week would get pretty boring unless you're there with some friends. I liked the night market which has many good food stalls and the one next door has lots of art and crafts for sale. I stayed at the D2 which was not ideal for visiting the beach. I think picking one of the places nearer the beach would be a better choice for sure. There are a few beach resorts that looked very cushy when we walked past on an evening beach stroll. I'd have to look at a map to remember names. If you haven't been out to Isaan there are some pretty interesting places out in that direction. I'm always fascinated by old temples, etc so I like Phimai quite a bit as well as Phnom Rung. I did that part of the country as a little 3 day trip where we based on Khorat and did day trips out from there. Lots if big national parks in the north if you're interested in that. Or even Chiang Rai. You might want to have a look at Paddy Doyle's YT channel for ideas of places to visit. He went to every province. https://www.youtube.com/@PaddyDoyle./playlists

I visited Villa Giani last week. I was in London for a few days and decided to call in the evening before I was to fly home. I had planned my schedule to visit that evening, but in the event I was actually feeling quite unwell that afternoon (as it turned out within 24 hours I was hit by a very bad dose of cold and sore throat which lasted three or four days). Even though I was feeling out of sorts, as I was close-by, I thought I would call in and look at the lineup anyway. That way at least I could report back a bit more info for this thread. I rang the doorbell and a very pleasant, Hispanic looking guy, answered. I forgot to ask his name. It was a warm afternoon outside, and it was really warm, almost oppressively so, in the basement apartment. The receptionist confirmed that the fee was £160 for one hour. Then I was brought to the mirror window. When the guys realised there was a customer at the other side of the window, they came up to it and pulled up their T-shirts to show off their chests. Four guys were available. Three Hispanic looking guys, and a pale, European-looking guy. The pale guy and two of the other guys were twinks, the other guy was more muscular. I had a gut feeling that the European looking guy might be Irish (I’m Irish myself, and we can tell our own, lol). When I asked receptionist where he was from, he confirmed that my gut feeling was correct. They were all reasonably good-looking in appearance, although perhaps not as quite as glamorous looking as one might expect for £160. I note from reading this thread that the price they charge has gone from £100 just before Covid, to £130 a bit later, and now £160. Well, good luck to them if they can get the money. I was there at 6:20, and receptionist told me that if I wanted to take a guy, there would not be a free room available on the premises until 7 pm. I ask him to explain a bit more about their opening times, as the website says they are open from 1 pm until 7 pm. He explained that they are open later, but that there were only guys available to view until 7 pm. I decided not to take a guy that day, mainly because I wasn’t feeling all that well. I felt a little bit guilty about just being a "looky-loo" but the receptionist was very pleasant about it, and said it was no problem. Generally the whole atmosphere was very calm and relaxing. I don’t think anybody should feel nervous are going for a look, if they’re interested. It is literally a five minute walk from Earls Court tube station.

Their Michelin 7* rating speaks for itself 😁

Khao Yai is just right for a 2-night stay. You can get there from Bangkok in 2-4 hours by bus, minibus or train and the guest houses run a free transfer from the bus/train stations. Arrive mid-afternoon in time for the evening "jungle tour" on the day you arrive, then a full-day tour for the following day, stay overnight then return to Bkk. Or you can extend your stay with a night camping in the national park. For a longer national park visit with more things to do, (maybe 4 nights) look at Khao Sok. Fly or take the train to Surat Thani, Krabi or Phuket, then a minibus to Khao Sok. Rome2Rio.com will show the possible routes. A mild warning - the minibus between Surat Thani and Khao Sok needs to be booked in advance. For the return journey, check that you have a ticket showing bus time and seat number. If all you have is a voucher for one unspecified journey, you need to exchange it and book a seat at the minibus office at the road junction just outside Khao Sok. (I learned this the hard way ☹️ - having booked a Nok Air "fly'n'ride" package with flight and connecting minibus reservation on the outward journey I assumed I had a bus reservation for the return trip. Not so. They did all they could to get me on a different bus (good), but it didn't go to the airport (not so good). However, the driver kindly found me a mocy taxi for a white knuckle ride to the airport. If I'd missed the flight I'd have been stuck in Surat for a very long new-year weekend.)

I agree if you wand second drink and invite a boy sitting with your bill is jumping to 1500 Bht before tipping the staff , off fee and tip the boy in room which can summ up to 4500-5000 bht, It's excessive.

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I can’t believe this is even a conversation. Tip service workers, you cheap ass muthafuckas. Especially in developing countries. Who cares if they ask or remind you about it? They work for so little. Take an extra roll of small bills to the saunas with you and use them for tips. If breaking a 50 reais ($10 USD) into smaller bits and disseminating it to those who provided you a non-sexual service is going to break you, then maybe you shouldn’t be traveling or even leaving your house at all.

I felt the same way on my last trip. However, once I established myself as a tipper on my first day, they stopped harassing me in my subsequent visits. In 202 it is crucial to tip the towel/cleaning ladies, especially the older and shorter one. The front counter can be messy at assigning rooms, and she always saves you time by quickly fixing the issues.

@floridarob ok I guess you were right 😂 I am going back next week but only to Sao Paulo for a week. I miss the Brazilian men. So hot, I could melt in their arms. I am such a whore but i'll probably celibate for a couple of months after this 🤣🤣