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  1. reader

    Adam Massage

    I was walking on Silom past Soi 4 and a guy wearing yellow shirt smiled and asked “massage?” as he offered a menu from Adam. He held the smile and I said “sure.” On the short walk back he inquired “body to body?” My reply was the same. Adam is probably the best located shop in Silom (opposite Pride), yet many folks walk by without even seeing it en route to Circus, Balcony or Jupiter. Even though I was once a regular customer, in recent years I’ve given it a pass in as I discovered the opportunities in Saphan Kwai and other destinations. Today’s massage renewed my connection with the shop where I first met some memorable guys. Originally agreeing to one hour (450), midway through the session I told him I wanted to extend it an additional half hour (200), my first 90-minute one of the trip. It was time and money well spent. The room was on the third floor with massage table and shower down the hall. Water provided on arrival and tea after.
    6 points
  2. Day 11 I must be turning lesbian, men loving lesbian but still lesbian because I start liking my boy less nights. Slept very well till 8 and did not rush for breakfast, only to run in panic as they close at 10 and I made it at 9.55. Still managed to feed myself well. Then went to top floor to marvel at Bangkok from moving platform. Nice breeze there. While Mahanakhon is more exciting due to glass, for view I think I like Bayioke better as it’s more central. After that I’m taking it easy because today it’s my birthday so I made myself busy thanking all well wishers on Line, e-mail and What’s Up. I quite liked that lazy , no pressure day. But at 2 I decided not to waste day completely and went to Saphan Kwai with intention to make survey of massage shops there. By the station there are at least 3 : G’Beat, KMan and 15M but my survey today was along Suthisan Rd. Coming from BTS there is One Spa across gas station and on the same side of street 27 M. On opposite side there are BT HOUSE, KK SPA and Home Spa. Home Spa is just before highway crosses street if you are taking bus. So I stopped at Home , 1hr 500 baht min tip 1000, only two boys available immediately so I opted for one I recognized face from their Line feed. Fees are less than half of one needs to pay at Jey. But twink lover would do better than me who is rather into hunks. Boy was working hard but there was no spark from my side for that reason so I was glad when 1 hr was over and likely so was boy although we had some fun but it was more routine. I think it was my fault so don’t get me wrong. Being there I decided to try one more, stopped at BT house but they were all boked with no room available according to guy on reception, He gave me aprox. waiting time of ½ hr. so I decided to go somewhere else and stopped at One. Again only two boys available , both hunks . One of them volunteered to explain process in quite good English so I opted for him. That was good idea. Good massage, my type of guy and quite a conversationalist, at around 40 min. he expressed wish to marry me and go with me to my country. That was fast! But before we settled on pre-nuptials 1 hr passed and session was over but fun it was. Cost and tip the same like at Home but I gave him 200 extra for lawyer drawing those pre-nuptials. I enjoyed it there. Upon return to hotel Guardian Angel steered me to alight at Phaya Thai and take 1 stop of ARL from there. It’s short walk to hotel from the station but I found the gem on main street, just past railway crossing. Ordinary Thai restaurant , with half tables in the open and half behind the door. I opted for that section because AC and ordered my customary chicken with cashews. Probably second best I had with only Oasis on Suriwong when they were there doing it even better. Old truth that restaurant ambiance has nothing to do with quality of food it serves was mightily confirmed. Quite an unexpected treat for my birthday. I went to hotel to freshen up and pick up some money deciding today Tawan will be my bar of choice. Hunks and most friendly bar, what else I may want. Taxi handily unloaded somebody in front of hotel and agreed to take me to Silom, it was about 80 baht, the same I paid for motorsai yesterday. Alighting I got message from anddy that he is dining at Gbangkok so went there to shake hands – I was full after that fabulous chicken but anddy generously offered me birthday drink so I stopped there for longer chat with him and restaurant owner. Then I went to Tawan as always greeted enthusiastically. Good hour before show bar was already filed . I was not only farang . in pure view I had had another one sitting with one of their boys and both were quite progressive in their behavior. Unfortunately later on farang left leaving some tip in guys’ hands so no off. Not being just anybody there had benefits as quite fast they organized some table space so I had no less than 4 guys sitting with me including one veteran, surprisingly clingy today, Mas my favorite twink there and new acquisition ST, very handsome, also not exactly teenager, with butt of gold. He told me he is there only few weeks and his brother used to work there. Turned out I know that brother very well in his days and even nominated him to be best boy of my Dec 2015 trip. Getting his Line proved great acquisition. One guy was missing from the crowd, multiple offed K , all because of fairness. Right in the beginning I told him I’m offing him tonight as my birthday boy so I thought fair that other boys will get their drinks and tips. I was in the mood so not only my companions and all 3 performers but also ‘special ‘ show participants and j/o show competitors got theirs not to mention 1 or 2 for newly acquired twinks. Spending like drunken sailor at least I remained sober , chiefly because of pleasure of caressing gently and secretly that butt of gold. After show I jumped on K’s new shiny motorcycle , no doubt fruit of all those ‘ no customers tonight’ nights and we went to Happy Beer Garden where his cousin is waitressing while being only person in whole world allowed to call me ‘ my daddy”. At least return to hotel was free and we could start celebrating birthday in style, K and I. Only disappointment this year was that hotel did not present me birthday cake like they did last year. I wonder if that was change of policy or result of opting for cheaper room where such treats don’t apply
    6 points
  3. macaroni21

    Hotmale beer bar

    @Deszz24 My reading of your posts tells me that your primary objective is to visit a Gogo bar, maybe see a performance and take a lad off. Because you just wrote "bar" in your posts, and even mentioned the thought of going as early as 5pm, you are getting replies that are unrelated to gogo bars. Regulars here on this forum can deduce what kind of bar is being referred to in the replies (e.g. from references to Soi 4, beer bar, etc), but I don't know if you can. Assuming that my reading of your primary intention is correct, there really is just one way to go about it, time-wise and action-wise. Gogo bars open a little after 9pm. There are hardly any customers until about 9:30 or 9:45pm. The shows usually start around 10:30 and finish around 11:15 or 11:30pm. Customer numbers peak during the show and melt away quite quickly after 11:30pm. As a newbie, it may be best to time yourself to the busy period between 10 and 11:30. Otherwise, half the boys and all four mamasans will be targetting you. As Vinapu said, "it's not such great idea to come early as you may be accosted more often for lack of other victims while at show time bar is usually full and mamasans are busy dispensing drinks etc. " Don't try to control or expect to control what the boy will or will not do in the room. Go with the flow, and understand that like everybody, they have their limits. Or they may say yes to something but do not deliver. It is a gamble. Even experienced members in this forum have disappointments. We should pay what we agreed even if we're disappointed and not try to insist on a discount. It's the risk we take. What we do instead is to pay more than agreed if we are happy with the service. And something not mentioned so far: Bring plenty of small change when visitng gogo bars. Best would be to pay the bar tab with the exact amount and not with large bills.
    5 points
  4. vinapu

    Hotmale beer bar

    Welcome to the forum. You worry too much and read too much into what is said here. How one can pass by boy bar without being inclined to go in is beyond me , I thought only aspiring lesbians would pass such an opportunity. First, while some mamasans are pushy by far pushy ones are not majority and even those pushy are not going to wrestle or rape you. Tell them you are watching, you wait for friend who is supposed to join you or do what I do with stony face, tell them "I like girls ", nobody will believe you but they should get a message which is subtle ' fuck off" signal. When you will be there you may want to signalize it here on the forum , they may be members who will do community service and gladly accompany you on your virgin visit(s). I wish I'd be in such a position, sigh. at 4 or 5 in the evening bars are still closed with exception of Hot male Beer bar w visiting which is not a bad idea for people in your position as boys there are very friendly and THERE'S NO MAMASAN. bars are usually opening between 8-9 and rarely are in full swing before 9.30. Actually i think for shy types it's not such great idea to come early as you may be accosted more often for lack of other victims while at show time bar is usually full and mamasans are busy dispensing drinks etc. I found Thais pretty straightforward and those working in bars hear it all many times but good form would be to offer drink, be it bar boy , waiter or mamasan if you have hots for them . Most of staff will be on offer although waiters and mamasans most likely only after bar will close . While sitting with you just ask they if they go with you 'are you going with me?" , if they say yes ask them about what is important to you , top, bottom , kiss etc. Don't try to be too sophisticated because English is their 2nd or perhaps 4th language so your question should be straightforward. Kissing question is somewhat important as some boys do everything but won't kiss for some reason so you don't want to for force yourself on them. I ask kissing question after agreement to go is made so they know it's not condition for an off. If you have boy sitting with you and you decide not to off him for whatever reason make sure : 1/ not to keep him too long as he may lose other opportunities 2/ tip him for his time 100-200 depending of length of time. Make sure you let us know about you impressions after you finally arrive
    5 points
  5. Day 10 Y wanted to go home so I went or rather should say flew on cloud 7 to World Famous for a breakfast. What I was thinking I don’t know or rather know, how great last night was , at least to me. Then went to ATM to withdrew some money and returned to hotel with a loot. By the way, machine refused to spit out 25000 , message came that maximum number of banknotes to be withdrawn is 25. So I assumed ATM run out of 1000 notes, as it refused 24000 either. I settled on 20000 and indeed in the pack there were few 500”s In hotel I wanted to do some calculations , reached for the phone and it was not there. Since I did not use it in the bank it must be Foodland so I kind of sprinted there. I, opposite to almost everybody else, can travel without the phone although those days it almost become impossible , I don’t bank on it but losing contacts, specially Line ones would be nasty. So I hoped it will be there. On approach I already knew it is as one of waitresses seeing me motioned . They made me sign in some notebook I received it . I left 200 tip and started to celebrate reunion. It pays to be known there and seat usually at the same table so they must have notice right away. Today I’m changing hotels and moving to Bayioke Sky. Every trip I like to treat myself with something bit better for 2-3 nights just to know how better half is spending their vacations. I get there in Bangkok style i.e. by tuk-tuk, chiefly because this time I’m travelling with bit bigger luggage for simply reason- it was included in price so I thought, why not ? Most weight were 6 books I took with me hoping to read them but it turned out I managed to finish only 3. Biggest suitcase allowed me to stock up on coffee and certain soaps I always buy in Thailand. Thing I like about Bayioke is that view is guaranteed as lowest floor is 19th and guests have free access to viewing platform on the top. Hotel is not teenager exactly and is bit worn off but rooms are big and bathroom was for sure at least of the same size like my whole room in Ibis Styles where I stay in Feb. so no claustrophobic feeling at all. Room was not ready , their check in and check out hours are bit different , check-out by 11, check in from 2, typical for hotels with plenty of organized tours. So I left luggage , Lined Jey Spa if they can bring Maii2 for 2.30. As always response was almost immediate. I still had some time so wandered through the area which is not exactly shiny in comparison to Silom or Sukhumvit but certainly lively and safe. Then had nice walk to Nana Station , from there BTS to Phrom Phong and walk to soi 43 to arrive just on time as receptionist told me my boy just arrived too. We met twice in Jan and he remembered me greeting me with prolonged hug. After great night, great day too. Very enjoyable session . Did not come cheap, 1250 for VIP room for 1.50hr, minimum tip 1800 but I upped to 2200 just to let Maii know I was happy. Jey Spa continues to shine, first Noom , now Maii certainly worth the time to get there and expense. As a bonus Maii dropped me at BTS station but because it was rush hour I made sure I behaved as passenger without any questionable moves. In hotel room was waiting for me , this time on 58 floor only , probably 10 floors down compare to last year at the same time and it was normal window, not panoramic glass but that’s the price for picking up cheaper option. In the evening dinner with anddy in G’Bangkok . Motorsai for 80 baht . At restaurant I utilized their Tursday schnitzel special again. Hugs with both barkers at Banana, I have hots for one of them , I think I mentioned it already, but I’m too shy to approach him for more than hug and vinapu tuck . Slowly, slowly but surely, there’s still future. Then we decided to check on HotMale but after 11 a lots of guys were already taken including all I’d consider. This deflated me a bit and after making rounds through the area I decided to return home empty handed to my eternal shame. Me sleeping alone in Thailand ? Shot me on the spot ! Not that I did not have option as masseur N is bombarding me with questions when we meet again and I don’t think he is helping his case. Sweet boy but not feeling me way Y, S or both Jay Spa masseurs do. Last message rung at 2 am so I advised him to go to bed and applied that advice to myself as well for few moments regretting my phone this morning was not lost for good.
    4 points
  6. Visas won't be your problem, assuming you're serious and this isn't your idea of a fun way to get people falling for a hoax. The problem would be work permits, which you definitely can forget about. You know why I don't believe a word you wrote? Because unless you are a total moron, you already would be working with a Thai attorney who absolutely would have made it clear that you're not going to legally hire foreign bar boys. The police would probably shut you down the day you open. What makes you think customers would give a damn about what countries the boys come from? Bar customers care about how the boys look and how they behave. Maybe I'm wrong and if it turns out I am, then I'll post a public apology, but I smell a hoax here - a Bad Boy Billy type of hoax.
    4 points
  7. floridarob

    Plans for Business

    To make a small fortune in Thailand, you start with a large fortune 😉
    4 points
  8. reader

    The longest day

    From The Thaiger Today, the National Astronomical Research Institute of Thailand announced that the Summer Solstice or ‘Srisamayan’ will result in the longest day and shortest night of the year. The sun will pause at the highest point in the north today. The term ‘Solstice’ comes from the Indo-European word stice, meaning steady or pause. The Summer Solstice signifies the day when the sun’s path reaches its northernmost point and remains stationary. The sun’s position changes about one degree per day, and from March, it gradually moves northwards until it reaches its highest point today. After this, it will slowly move southwards. This phenomenon results in the sun rising from the eastern horizon and leaning towards the north, and setting at the western horizon, leaning towards the north. The southern hemisphere subsequently enters the winter season, while the northern hemisphere enters summer. The Earth’s axial tilt of 23.5 degrees, perpendicular to its orbital plane around the sun, makes various areas around the globe receive different amounts of sunlight, resulting in varying temperatures and day and night durations. This creates distinct seasons on our planet. As we can observe during summer, the days are longer than nights, indicating the sun rises early and sets later. On the contrary, during winter, the nights are longer than days, the sun rises late and sets early.
    3 points
  9. t0oL1

    Hotmale beer bar

    Did that for tips once at Nice Boys 2019. amazing where they all come in from outside for a total of 17 of them...
    3 points
  10. no , sometimes scammers are very skilled. We think we are smart until we meet our match. I know first hand as almost fell victim. It was supposed call from my internet company. Since at the same time I had some problems with access and also with telephone, it seemed legitimate. My brain was turned on only at the last second when they asked me to 'repeat your credit card number" , first , why repeat if I did not give you number in first place ? Second , why they need it as repairs are normally added to regular monthly bill ? So I just hanged out but they were brave enough to call me back few minutes later. By that time I put myself together so just hanged out again without the word and reported all to both governemnt fraud site and to Internet company. To this day I'm sure it was internal job of people who got information of what is going on with my case in real as it all sounded very normal. They just outsmarted themselves by using that ' repeat' word.
    3 points
  11. TotallyOz

    Plans for Business

    Dear Gaybutton, Don't be so cynical. I remember one a few years back and it took the police 3 days to shut it down.
    3 points
  12. stories like that made me to make firm decision from onset of smartphone ownership not to use it for any financial transactions. So even if I fall a victim of scam I'd be too stupid to transfer any money. Works for me
    3 points
  13. On Ipanema beach....drunk as hell on the way to the beach, I had on some little short shorts and didn't even realize when it fell out of my pocket I always carry a fanny pack but this time, just drunk of the sun and caipirinhas, I didnt even realize I had dropped it until it was too later To make matter worse, we had just closed on a home the Tuesday before we flew to RIO Needless to say, I won't be drinking that heavy until after the beach when I have all my bearings around me.... Can you imagine being out of the country with NO cell phone.....the good think is my partner was able to help and I had my laptop for the other stuff but had to come back a day early to make sure I could get the new cell phone ordered Had an amazing time in the sauna the one night that I did get to go... Looking forward to going back, hopefully sooner than later....
    3 points
  14. vaughn

    Plans for Business

    If you have no experience in running a business in hospitality and have no knowledge of local practices and law, well... just buy a barrel and burn your baht because it will be less stress with the same outcome. Your post history indicates you're pretty new to Thailand and don't have much understanding of the economics of the bar scene, is that right? it's fun to dream but it sounds like you're wasting your time. You might want to spend some time in the country and at existing venues to learn how things work before even starting to work on a business plan.
    3 points
  15. Day 9 N sleeps in his shop. Because of that, 3 days a week he is cleaning it before opening and after closing which I consider very fair. That was reason he could come only at 1 but I did not mind, we still had good , largely sleepless night. Left at 6 to take care about the shop so I returned to warmed bed to get some sleep. At 9 marched to Foodland, heart bleeding becauseby 5 minutes I missed time when breakfast is whopping 10 baht cheaper, then to XOne to exchange money and to Silom market in soi 10 to buy charger as I left mine in hotel in Kuala Lumpur, one of senior moments I guess because I’m not exactly known for leaving my stuff behind. Silom market as market go is very modest affair but yet in my every hour of need , be it charger , coat hangers, baseball hat, undies, t-shirt , pen , day pack , you name it ,I go there and find what I need , usually for very little. I spotted one of Jupiter mamasans manning one of the stands. In hotel no water again but power was so I made a coffee and then took BTS to Madrid for lunch with Christian PFC. Always interesting chat over tasty pizza, we have our ritual and share whatever we ordered half / half with each other. We walked back , I was mindful that I have to meet P from Hot Male at 3 to check stamp collection so made sure I’m there , in still empty soi on time. No sight of him , nor even answer to my Lines so at 3.30 I left empty handed. Reader reported that he will be drinking coffee at Coffee Grinder at 5 if I want to join so I used that occasion to complain, his answer was very reasonable P obviously is not in a need of money. Good for P thought I. Just before 5 I got message from him “ sorry I slept in”. Too late obviously as I had other designs this afternoon. Reader and I exchanged news while tasting their coffee and first and foremost admiring their cheerful and handsome staff. I even get bonus when boys were readying to leave at they close at 6 one of them changed shirt to reveal torso worth 2750 baht short time in process. This trip I decided firmly to return to old butterflying days, did not work exactly as intended with few repats anyways but at least I tried and liked it. Today I scheduled last bar I did not visit yet- Dreamboys so around 9 went there. Several boys on the stage already , among them Fai, very good masseur I know from Arena so called him for drink, shortly his brother Dit arrived to wing me from other side. But I was in no mood to hire from there. What I saw was discouraging. Out of 3 rotation about 12 each so total 30-40 guys I’d remotely consider 3 and only # 11 looked truly attractive earning red not as I departed. A lot of veterans of soi Twilight which says something. Ggobkk who visited few day earlier had exactly the same impression but on another hand Jason 1975 who went there few days after me completely disagreed. So either I had bad luck or he had good one or there’s fundamental difference in taste. As I said somewhere else and tend to repeat constantly - go and check for yourself , my throwaway may be your treasure and other way around. Tipped both brothers 200 for their time and old times sake and decided to have another try at Moonlight I visited last week. With all bars covered time for 2nd round. I was hoping to see Y , who impressed me on my last night in Feb and yes , he was on the stage. No time was wasted to bring him over for a drink and before his was delivered , night’s fate was sealed. A, the hunk spotted me as well so I invited him for drink too , if only to tell him that I did not like last week when he abandoned me from another customer. This time he did not go anywhere until his drink was finished . So I used that to try to wrestle him a bit which we always do , he always wins but my ego is still boosted because I manage to resist for a bit. He made suggestion we repeat Feb feast with Y and him together but I said that for me it’s twice expense for half fun so he gave up trying. In models parade I noticed few new faces, Jack who appeared very nervous last week seems settled now but for now Mean seem to be my #1. I also noticed I’m warming up to Babe, perhaps because now he is not one to close parade as he always did , now he is one of many. I did not see Nut last time neither during parade today but at one point he showed up, came to say hallo, admitted casually he is late and way he was dressed made me suspect that he must be in good hands now. Very formal and elegant at the same time so I’m happy for him he found his girl or man, whoever. Another one not present was Nicky, neither last week nor today but time I was in love with him is long gone. I’m glad they are trying to refresh their models stable as old faces and bodies , while still attractive are becoming bit stale so new blood is needed. On another hand I must admit original set was of really outstanding quality, real hunky hunks while never crew is somewhat mixed which is not necessarily wrong as not everybody likes that type. At one point I start getting itchy so tipped A and marched with Y to hotel by the way of Unesco Heritage. Y turned endearingly modest when comes to food as Foodland was his idea and he chosen some ordinary dish like pad Thai. Not that modest when came to LT tip but absolutely and positively did his best to earn it. One of those few precious who feel immediately what and when customer wants. By far best night of this trip. I was so excited and happy that I almost pay dearly for all that fun but that’s the story for next installment .
    3 points
  16. about chicken with cashews I may agree, have doubts about papaya salad, never tried oysters due to allergy to sea food. My best aphrodisiac is clingy boy sitting beside me in the bar.
    3 points
  17. INTRODUCTION That was nasty surprise. One evening I felt something between discomfort and light pain. By the morning it was something under my skin which was mildly painful and could be easily felt as it was size of , say 10 baht coin. In the following days it did not grew but mild pain, sometimes just discomfort persisted. Of course in such case we assume the worst and so did I, specially that survived that long without hospitals and treatments. Then there were some obstacles like my workload and my doctor on vacations. Anyways after 4 weeks of kind of terror, more mental than physical though, I got tested. It was Wednesday. On Thursday at precisely 2.14 p.m. phone rung. It was not marketer, it was my doctor. “ Don’t worry , it’s just a cyst and eventually it will be absorbed. Nothing to worry about “ . Thank you doctor, you saved my life again said I. Now, May is my traditional vacation month for two reasons, I’m tired with work and my wallet is packed. But this year for reasons not related to me nor Thailand May vacation were not in the cards. Doctor’s phone changed all that. I said he called at 2.14 p.m. By time I went to bed around 11.30 pm. I had already booked tickets to Bangkok for 6.30pm on Sunday and from there to Kuala Lumpur and back plus all hotels in Bangkok, KL and Pattaya. 72 hours and I was on the road. This was my reward I granted myself on account of good news. I loved it as my best vacations were always on the whim and not planned but with 72 hrs. I was even impressed with myself . Not particularly cheap, in fact my most expensive Thai trip ticket ever and not fast with 2 connections but who cares?. I got clean bill of health and on the road again. What else I may want ? When waked up Sunday morning , day of my departure I noticed very strange thing. Usually in such circumstances I should be dreaming about some naked hunk beside me with my hand on his thing but instead first thing which came to my mind was pizza at Madrid Tavern and schnitzel at Gbangkok. OMG I thought, is that it, am I losing it or what ? In January after Cambodian fiasco I was afraid I may turn lesbian but food lover? Me? It was my first flight through Middle East connection , namely Qatar. I had expectancies based on what I read on the forum and heard from others. I found airline agreeable, service was good although seemed bit disorganized. Food kind of so, so, but would be treat for salt lovers. In short not as great as some claimed and not bad at all. What I loved though was Doha airport and while initially I was not happy with 3 hrs layover , when there I was glad I had so much time for my disposal. Surprise in the airport – relatively few travelers in traditional ‘sheikh” white garb or veiled women. Landed in Bangkok very conveniently at 6.30 am almost no lines in immigration. I wisely decided to buy SIM card before picking my luggage and it popped out exactly in the moment I approached conveyor. So it was breeze. Checked rates at exchange booths and again wisely did not change money as XOne on Suriwong , it turned out, had bit better rate. ARL to BTS, change at Siam, short walk from Sala Daeng to soi 8 and my day 1 started Day 1 To be sure I will have an access to bed and shower I booked room at Nantra Silom for night before. Bit horror as they initially couldn’t find my reservation but finally they did. Not much changed from last time I was there pre-covid. Breakfast served no more and computers are gone from the lobby. Room was clean , A/C was working and so was shower. Safety deposit box did not but me , always naïve decided to take a chance and left is as is hoping for the best , as it turned out , rightly so. One thing was missing – not even one hanger. But with markets in soi 10 and soi 5 across Silom deficiency easily fixable. It was morning so next step was breakfast in world famous Unesco heritage Foodland Patpong where I was recognized by at least 3 waiters and greeted with smile, shortly boss himself was passing by and wai me as well. Welcome home vinapu thought I. Then round of area, I always like scenes and smells of morning market in Patpong 1, went to XOne to exchange money , Silom market to buy, you guessed rightly 5 hangers for 50 baht. ( no, I did not donate them to Nantra, took with me and only left in my last hotel ). Returning to hotel I saw short but very muscular guy in front of one of massage places in soi 6. He noticed my interest and run toward me trying to secure massage but I was sleepy despite this being only noon so promised to see him later . Lets call him N and we will hear about him often in this report. But now I collapsed on the bed exhausted by long trip and jet lag which is tormenting me more and more as I age. I did not sleep on the plane and to add , two ladies sitting in my row were yakking quite loudly for most of the flight. Returned to life around 3pm and yes , went to see N. It was very good decision as massage was excellent, it truly was. Not particularly cheap, 950 for the shop for 1.5 hr and N wanted 2000 for his troubles but I was happy, particularly that he came with idea of overnight with me before I even managed to opened my mouth. Well massaged , thus invigorated and feeling hungry marched toward Suriwong and in front of Tawan I saw Dum , boy I offed several times, sitting proudly on motorcycle. It turned out that during day he is motorsai driver , returning to bar duties at night. So asked him to give me ride to Madrid Tavern in Charoen Krung soi 49, paid him 60 baht. Business is business. Lady at Madrid not only recognized me immediately, right away asked : “Chang , no glass ?” and when I selected spinach and cheese pizza she expressed shock why not my usual shallots and cherry tomatoes so I was forced to change to my usual. Also asked about my friend whom she did not see for quite long meaning Christian PFC as we dined there many times on both old location and current. I promised to bring him in one day. Getting dark so time for bars, first go to HotMale beer bar where I met reader and after a while we decided to check on Banana club in soi 4 which I consider 2nd most friendly bar after Tawan and even Lucy is not able to change that. I called one of boys to sit with me loyally telling him I already have boy for the night but we had pleasant time and tipped him 500 just for fun of it. Lucy of course tried to leech some tip but I stood my ground although she was tempting me with showing her knee , go figure. Next step was Moonlight. A, the hunk I offed on my last nights in last two trips spotted me right away , came to shake hands and asked for drink which I gladly bought hoping to have nice time holding his massive forearm. But after sip or two he asked me to let him to greet some client so old idiot I agreed and he never returned that evening obviously having better time there . So my 400 were misspent so to speak. While I like him very much thank you I still considered it rude and taking me for granted. Leaving bar I not only knew who is sleeping with me tonight but I also knew who won’t for sure this trip. On my way home I peeked into Tawan but they were already emptying so promised to see them another night. N showed as promised at 1 and we had indeed good time so trip started well.
    2 points
  18. If you have read any of my previous reporta on Argentina, you know how fond I am of local bakeries and patisseries. I am for a few hours in Buenos Aires (will return this Friday), and just had a quick walk in my former hood, Recoleta. These are some of the prices in one of my best bakeries, Dos Escudos (you will need to zoom in): And for the meat lovers, this is from Res, perhaps the biggest local butcheries chain: Today the exchange rate is U$S 1 = $AR 262 (OFFICIAL) = $AR 492 (BLUE).
    2 points
  19. From The Thaiger The Royal Thai Police (RTP) issued a warning to pornography lovers to be vigilant after a victim was fleeced of 3 million baht after he browsed an illegal porn website. The RTP yesterday told a gathering press pack that the top five scams in Thailand included counterfeit products and services, fraudulent part-time or freelance jobs, loan scams, call centre scams, and investment scams. The RTP added that a popular new scam is pushing to get into the top five – porn site extortion. The RTP made known that the victim was contacted by the administrator of a porn site he browsed and invited him to add the website as a friend on the LINE application. The admin informed the victim that there was more free adult content available on the LINE account, so the victim agreed to add it. The victim was then invited to perform a series of tasks to access more free explicit content and then lured into applying as a member of a website called the v-verve club. During the tasks, the victim was lured into transferring money to the website. The web admin encouraged the victim to transfer larger amounts assuring him that he would get all of the money back at the end of the game. Eventually, the victim lost 3 million baht to the scam. The RTP added that people should be aware of these scamming websites. The RTP also added that a number of people had fallen victim to a TikTok scam. The scammers contact the victims via phone and invite them to complete a task on the TikTok application to gain rewards. At the start, the scam gang would transfer a reward to the victims after they completed their tasks. Then, they would send access to a fake TikTok application and lure victims into transferring money to them.
    2 points
  20. The annual Medellín mega-event takes place from 28 July to 7 August with the annual Desfile des los silleteros -- the incredible flower displays carried by local Paisas on their backs. The programming is outlined here (EN) https://www.medellinadvisors.com/la-feria-de-las-flores/ Always LOTS happening in the city during the Feria, and I am always happy to be back with my Paisa family. See you then.
    2 points
  21. vinapu

    Adam Massage

    what extras you want in massage? combing hair?
    2 points
  22. Brings tears to my eyes, as I do my 30 hour trip , door to door.
    2 points
  23. Or more realistically to the daddy’s wallet
    2 points
  24. The day before the vote to leave the EU I got 56 Baht to the pound, the day after it fell to 36!! A big loss to my income, and now it is just up to 44.5 so still 25% down.
    2 points
  25. vinapu

    Plans for Business

    second floor is illegal too? it can't be
    2 points
  26. I'm in the mood for some comedy. This should be funny as fuck 😆I hope someone can attend the opening night and get the police raid and arrested on video 🤣
    2 points
  27. Day 8 As they say, time to say goodbye. Breakfast, again I was only farang looking guest there. Fast packing as most of my goodies are still in Baan Silom, monorel to KL Sentral and airport express from there. Air Asia did not gave me a chance to select a seat for free and system assigned me middle one but by grace of God other two seats in my row were nor assigned so I had 3 seats for myself , too bad it was only 2.hr15 mins flight. In Don Muang very fast , no immigration line whatsoever. Going to the train I heard my name all of the sudden. One of guys from former Bangkok Massage whose brother I offed at least 10 times was waiting for somebody and recognized me. Not in business any more , scuba dive instructor now. Another proof that world is small. In coupon restaurant on the way to station I treated myself with duck on the rice for 65 baht, my usual treat when in DMK and 1 hr later I returned to Baan Silom to learn that I was assigned the same room, not that I care as anyone would do. At 7 I was supposed to meet another member ggobkk who was gracious enough to find some time for meeting on day of his return home. It was about to rain so I decided to go to GBangkok bit earlier , great idea as it started raining at 7 on the dot. My friend arrived with big umbrella but soon rain stopped, After chat and dinner and more chat we decided to go to Screwboys, first visit for both of us after reopening. Mamasan recognized us immediately, they did not really opened yet but she ordered few guys to the stage, few were OK and # 26 got tips for good looks from both of us. She also remembered that my best boy ever, One was from there and showed me his pictures, serious man in mid thirties now , father of 3 but still I recall him vividly . Muscular hunk who knew very well what his clients want and delivered. But it was in 2015 and after that he disapeared from the scene for good. 100 baht for her to keep that memory fresh forever, then after a while ggobkk went to his hotel to get ready for his trip and I went to jeweler on Thaniya to exchange some money. Then to Hot male beer bar to have drinks with boys and asked P to be there tomorrow at 3 so we can assess my new stamp acquisition. Then climbed stairs to Freshboys to watch the show and tip the best looking guy as usual. By sheer coincidence he had number #26 as well . He would be my candidate for an off but over Line I already promised N, the masseur, that we sleep together tonight so went home so to speak empty handed. On my way I met on Silom his workmate who assured me that N will be there after he closes shop at 1 as today was his turn about which I was aware already.
    2 points
  28. Londoner

    My two Pattayas

    I love two very different Pattayas; the one I visited from 1995 until- 2006 the one which persuaded me to take early retirement and the consequent financial "hit"- and the one I shall be returning to shortly, yet again. And they are very different. Pattaya #1 was all about go go bars, enjoying evenings with numerous guys, some of them spectacularly handsome, watching the late show at Throb (even Cockpit back in the day) and having a drink in Panorama or Corner Bar with my now sadly- deceased American expat buddy. Plenty of laughs, many of them resulting from his irrepressibly salacious anecdotes, some of which were true. And sometimes his behaviour. My day began at 10.00am and ended at 0200 as the lights in Boyztown or Sunee were being turned-off. Daytime in Pattaya #2 begins at 0800 with a leisurely breakfast, continuing with a swim in the hotel's pool and a walk along Jomtien beach. Bars have been replaced on our to-do list by restaurants. Questions about which go go bar has the cutest twinks are now replaced by discussions as to whether Central's MK is better than the one in Terminus 21, and where the best papaya salad is to be found. Evening drinks are on the room's balcony overlooking the waterfall at Agate, not in a bar. And bed is at 2200. And here's the thing. The experiences of my two Pattayas are different and yet each gives, or once gave me, exactly what is needed - socially, emotionally and, yes, sexually. There can be few resorts in the world that can offer so much to people like us and continue to do so as we age and our desires and needs change. A guy in Amsterdam's Blue Boy Bar (a place many will recall) told me about Pattaya in 1995 after an £80 encounter, when I had just come out. I shall always be grateful to him, as well as to the denizens of Pattaya and its guys (not all of them cute, but enough), my old friend , and of course my partner, whom I miss desperately when I'm not in Thailand.
    2 points
  29. Saturday (Day 14) - Poker night in hotel room with 3 Laos guys with loser drinking soju shots or stripping one piece of clothing. Winner of each round wins 100 baht. I met and got to know them over the years and had offed them individually. Last December during Christmas, all 3 were working at Banana and I took them back for poker party. 6 months later, one has upgraded to Jupiter (because he is most handsome among them) while another went back to Freshboys where he first started. The youngest had gone back to Laos but came back to Bangkok to work again at Banana just a few days ago. I had their Line accounts and told them in advance the plan for the night - pick up Jupiter Laos guy first followed by Banana Laos guy then they go to Foodland Patpong to order dinner while I pick up Freshboys Laos guy. As it was early at about 8.30pm, bars were empty and mamasans were flexible. They allowed me to just turn up at bar and no need to buy drink for myself. Just pay off fee. But it was my last night of this trip and feeling generous, I tipped the mamasans. Because the 3 Laos guys haven't met each other for a while now that they are working at different bars, it was awkward for them at first when we had dinner together at Foodland Patpong but once they got warmed up, it was like old times joking and having fun. After dinner, we walked as a group back to hotel, passing by Hotmale beer bar downstairs and I said bye to the staff there and see you again in December for Christmas. In hotel room, we thankfully didn't get any complaints from hotel because of too much noise. This time round, everyone had gotten wiser at poker so no one ended up stripped down to birthday suit. After finishing the soju and winning the money I prepared for them, they left happily. I went with them down to hotel lobby. We went our separate ways. I went to Tawan to off tall dark twink with glasses whom I had seen a few days ago. Very young only 19. Thai. Horny like crazy and kept begging to fuck me. Enjoyable session. Only downer is he asked for extra for taxi.
    2 points
  30. vinapu

    Plans for Business

    What? isn't Bangkok jail called Bangkok Hilton?
    1 point
  31. reader

    Adam Massage

    1. The “afters” don’t always come in a specific order. 2. I evaluate a massage on the experience as a whole, not solely on the end. 3. Some guys (a minority in my experience) understand this. 4. I very seldom extend a massage.
    1 point
  32. Agree. and just having wealth doesn’t seem to make victims any wiser because they’re the ones getting burned. Greed—like lust—can make fools of us.
    1 point
  33. reader

    Hotmale beer bar

    Making a sexual supposition about another person you specifically identity by given name could easily be taken in intended or unintended ways. Remember this is a public forum.
    1 point
  34. I've been without a cell phone, sadly, many times over the years.....seems like we're more connected than ever to them now too.
    1 point
  35. thenewworld009

    Plans for Business

    Ofcourse everything will be legal as we will find a way to get everyone a visa. I am just sharing my plans but please dont hate on me.
    1 point
  36. TotallyOz

    Plans for Business

    Where do you get that information?
    1 point
  37. by people feeding excessively on Russian , aggressor in this case, propaganda. Time for diet perhaps
    1 point
  38. Australian pound was replaced by dollar about 50-60 years ago
    1 point
  39. gerefan

    My two Pattayas

    Haha the same thing happened to me, except it was the bar tender at the Club 21 next door! He suggested I try Thailand even if I wasn’t attracted to Asian guys. So I booked a two week trip and spent half of it in Bangkok and the second half in Pattaya. When the two weeks were up I returned to the UK. A week later I was back in Pattaya, got a condo, and stayed 3 months! I have now been doing so for just under 20 years.
    1 point
  40. for breakfast I like that O'Delices , French bakery on the corner , across from Soda massage,
    1 point
  41. jason1975

    Hotmale beer bar

    I see! Luckily I didn't ring the bell!
    1 point
  42. Latbear4blk

    I hate American

    No, my friend. I am on my annual family visit to Argentina. I am back to loving America. Although I am not happy with how they handled the situation, they upgraded me and had a fantastic flight with excellent service. After 24 hours in the airport, I slept like a baby for the entire flight.
    1 point
  43. Day 2 No rush in the morning, N wanted to stay longer but I was hungry so ordered shower and trip to Unesco for breakfast. Then packed my luggage and went to my next dig – Baan Silom in soi 3. That’s one of my most favorite places in Silom and almost no trip goes without me staying there. Nothing fancy but very comfortable and spacious rooms, full size refrigerator, friendly hosts and night guard, very close to bars yet soi 3 with exception of morning and afternoon rush hours is quiet street. 7/11 across the street, and lively market right around the corner. Room was available so I was able to check in right away and got the room I was sleeping in many times before. For last few trips I become fan of Jey Spa in Sukhumvit soi 43 . I like their selection and fast response time . Guy I wanted based on their Line feed, Ten was not available this week so I settled on Noom whom I saw in Dec 2001 in Sabaidee spa and for whom I got very good feedback from one of our members who was entertained by him few times. On my way there I went to Siam paragon just to stroll through as I can’t recall I was there in the past. I’m not mall person and in Bangkok neighborhood markets like soi 10 or soi 5 plus Silom stores is all I need. Arrived at Jey bit earlier and noticed they have discreet but visible sign now. It’s about 10 minutes walk from either Phrom Phnom or Thonglor BTS stations. Place is bit upscale , fitting it’s neighborhood and VIP rooms are like regular hotels rooms. Sure it cists but they have cheaper options too. 1.5 hr in VIP is 1250 for massage , when one books guy is informed what is his minimum tip rate for desired length of time. I was told 1800 for 1.5 hr. Noom is one of those who look better in flesh than on pics , much better. If not recommendation I’d probably miss him. He turned out great guy and it was very pleasant and rewarding 1.5 hrs . What a hunk, what a body ! I was almost tempted to have another session right away but start feeling sleepy so returned to hotel to collapse one the bed from 4.30 to 8.30. Those jet lags are killing me. Then to G’Bangkok in soi 4 for my dinner warmly welcomed by not only boss there but also both barkers from Banana across the soi. I have secret crush on one of them but I’m too shy to approach him but always promise myself I will do next trip. During dinner one of members Lined me asking what are my planes for tonight and I realized that I have none. It’s almost 10 pm and I don’t know where to go. What’s wrong with me ? I took easy way and went to Jupiter in the same soi. Wise decision. I entered just before first boy parade. Everybody was in briefs but without number. I was stunned. Probably first time in any bar I ever been in Thailand I liked every single one of them. Not even one I’d not take home. 100% approval rate, wow! And this comes from me , never being fan of Jupiter and it’s boys. While I like their look I find their lack of facial expression off putting although I know if’s just a management ordered pose because when boys are sitting with you or being offed they behave normally . In the past I never had much luck with them with exception of certain transplant from Tawan and my visits there were only for visual pleasure. I also don’t get logic of boys hidden in the corners and parading without numbers , how we are supposed to get them ? seems too much effort. But last two offs from there were very good so I started sniffing around tonight for an opportunity I watched a show , mid way was another parade, this time boys were in boxers but still without numbers. Some sported even trace of smile, o, la, la. Show quite interesting and entertaining and one can glimpse erect cock here and there for few precious seconds , thing unheard of before. After show third parade, this time bare chested guys in jeans but sporting numbers, sign that it’s time to get serious . Since one of guys noticing my interest smiled at me broadly during that walkabout I asked mamasan to bring him over. Came all in smiles and when asked about going with me accepted immediately so I did not even bother with drink but just paid off fee and off we went parading through soi holding hands at his insistence. Very embarrassing as I’m very shy guy , on Silom he changed to embrace me and that’s how we arrived in hotel, my heart pumping. Seemed great off again but in the room return to usual Jupiter scheme, sweet but hasty. Long time yes but 6000 so I declined an offer. So we had 40 minutes steamy, sweet but rush session. When he left I was both happy and disappointed as I could use his great company longer but no, not for 6000. Since I slept during day I did not feel sleepy at night and after he left I caught with Line and e-mails as well as forum , even surveyed Grindr and went to bed only at 3.30 am ending quite a nice day 2
    1 point
  44. One more thing. Grooming matters. While kissing is a huge variable for many of the guys, it's much easier to make happen if you have fresh breath. Many of these guys have very smooth skin that is easily irritated, so make sure you're clean shaven. Even a little bit of five o clock shadow can make these guys uncomfortable. This is especially important if you're into rimming. Btw, good way to explain rimming is with these emojis: 🖐️😛🤚 They'll typically know what you mean (not even joking.)
    1 point
  45. Here you may run into problems. My only advice would be to befriend a Thai with good English, drag him around with you and have him do the negotiating. There was a fetish bar in Pattaya, but it died in 2019. The other solution is study some Thai language before your trip. Communication with just a few key words can do wonders. As for "rough stuff".... I'd advise against anything like that. It's generally not the way here. You can quickly get yourself a bad reputation, and that will do you no favours. It's best to keep in mind these are generally poor guys trying to make their way in the world. They deserve the upmost respect.
    1 point
  46. It's worth knowing that 7-11s have a policy of accepting large notes (and giving appropriate change) even for small purchases.
    1 point
  47. Zombie is right, make sure boy understands your question. Try to use simple language I.e. ," I fuck you ?" No need to be shy, thay saw and heard it all and more. I usually don,t involve mamasans but at times translation may be necessary. Conversation starts with obligatory questions you will be asked: what,s your name , where you are from , how long you stay in Thailand. That,s ritual and feel free to lie, just remember your lies. Never , absolutely f....g never admit in bar that you are in Thailand or bar first time or it,s your first day. No ,last time you were just before covid or if you brave, last October.
    1 point
  48. And it should be added that way of repaying forum for all leads and advices we dispense is posting own trip report, either in real time or after returning home
    1 point
  49. Think of preparing for your trip as you would preparing to buy a new car. Read about what others have experienced and use it to help shape where you want to go and what you want to do. And all that information is contained in this website, mostly in venue and trip reports and reviews. There’s a wealth of information at your fingertips.
    1 point
  50. Why not use an eSIM with an app like Airalo? Much easier than getting a physical SIM in person.
    1 point
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