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Day 9 N sleeps in his shop. Because of that, 3 days a week he is cleaning it before opening and after closing which I consider very fair. That was reason he could come only at 1 but I did not mind, we still had good , largely sleepless night. Left at 6 to take care about the shop so I returned to warmed bed to get some sleep. At 9 marched to Foodland, heart bleeding becauseby 5 minutes I missed time when breakfast is whopping 10 baht cheaper, then to XOne to exchange money and to Silom market in soi 10 to buy charger as I left mine in hotel in Kuala Lumpur, one of senior moments I guess because I’m not exactly known for leaving my stuff behind. Silom market as market go is very modest affair but yet in my every hour of need , be it charger , coat hangers, baseball hat, undies, t-shirt , pen , day pack , you name it ,I go there and find what I need , usually for very little. I spotted one of Jupiter mamasans manning one of the stands. In hotel no water again but power was so I made a coffee and then took BTS to Madrid for lunch with Christian PFC. Always interesting chat over tasty pizza, we have our ritual and share whatever we ordered half / half with each other. We walked back , I was mindful that I have to meet P from Hot Male at 3 to check stamp collection so made sure I’m there , in still empty soi on time. No sight of him , nor even answer to my Lines so at 3.30 I left empty handed. Reader reported that he will be drinking coffee at Coffee Grinder at 5 if I want to join so I used that occasion to complain, his answer was very reasonable P obviously is not in a need of money. Good for P thought I. Just before 5 I got message from him “ sorry I slept in”. Too late obviously as I had other designs this afternoon. Reader and I exchanged news while tasting their coffee and first and foremost admiring their cheerful and handsome staff. I even get bonus when boys were readying to leave at they close at 6 one of them changed shirt to reveal torso worth 2750 baht short time in process. This trip I decided firmly to return to old butterflying days, did not work exactly as intended with few repats anyways but at least I tried and liked it. Today I scheduled last bar I did not visit yet- Dreamboys so around 9 went there. Several boys on the stage already , among them Fai, very good masseur I know from Arena so called him for drink, shortly his brother Dit arrived to wing me from other side. But I was in no mood to hire from there. What I saw was discouraging. Out of 3 rotation about 12 each so total 30-40 guys I’d remotely consider 3 and only # 11 looked truly attractive earning red not as I departed. A lot of veterans of soi Twilight which says something. Ggobkk who visited few day earlier had exactly the same impression but on another hand Jason 1975 who went there few days after me completely disagreed. So either I had bad luck or he had good one or there’s fundamental difference in taste. As I said somewhere else and tend to repeat constantly - go and check for yourself , my throwaway may be your treasure and other way around. Tipped both brothers 200 for their time and old times sake and decided to have another try at Moonlight I visited last week. With all bars covered time for 2nd round. I was hoping to see Y , who impressed me on my last night in Feb and yes , he was on the stage. No time was wasted to bring him over for a drink and before his was delivered , night’s fate was sealed. A, the hunk spotted me as well so I invited him for drink too , if only to tell him that I did not like last week when he abandoned me from another customer. This time he did not go anywhere until his drink was finished . So I used that to try to wrestle him a bit which we always do , he always wins but my ego is still boosted because I manage to resist for a bit. He made suggestion we repeat Feb feast with Y and him together but I said that for me it’s twice expense for half fun so he gave up trying. In models parade I noticed few new faces, Jack who appeared very nervous last week seems settled now but for now Mean seem to be my #1. I also noticed I’m warming up to Babe, perhaps because now he is not one to close parade as he always did , now he is one of many. I did not see Nut last time neither during parade today but at one point he showed up, came to say hallo, admitted casually he is late and way he was dressed made me suspect that he must be in good hands now. Very formal and elegant at the same time so I’m happy for him he found his girl or man, whoever. Another one not present was Nicky, neither last week nor today but time I was in love with him is long gone. I’m glad they are trying to refresh their models stable as old faces and bodies , while still attractive are becoming bit stale so new blood is needed. On another hand I must admit original set was of really outstanding quality, real hunky hunks while never crew is somewhat mixed which is not necessarily wrong as not everybody likes that type. At one point I start getting itchy so tipped A and marched with Y to hotel by the way of Unesco Heritage. Y turned endearingly modest when comes to food as Foodland was his idea and he chosen some ordinary dish like pad Thai. Not that modest when came to LT tip but absolutely and positively did his best to earn it. One of those few precious who feel immediately what and when customer wants. By far best night of this trip. I was so excited and happy that I almost pay dearly for all that fun but that’s the story for next installment .

I love two very different Pattayas; the one I visited from 1995 until- 2006 the one which persuaded me to take early retirement and the consequent financial "hit"- and the one I shall be returning to shortly, yet again. And they are very different. Pattaya #1 was all about go go bars, enjoying evenings with numerous guys, some of them spectacularly handsome, watching the late show at Throb (even Cockpit back in the day) and having a drink in Panorama or Corner Bar with my now sadly- deceased American expat buddy. Plenty of laughs, many of them resulting from his irrepressibly salacious anecdotes, some of which were true. And sometimes his behaviour. My day began at 10.00am and ended at 0200 as the lights in Boyztown or Sunee were being turned-off. Daytime in Pattaya #2 begins at 0800 with a leisurely breakfast, continuing with a swim in the hotel's pool and a walk along Jomtien beach. Bars have been replaced on our to-do list by restaurants. Questions about which go go bar has the cutest twinks are now replaced by discussions as to whether Central's MK is better than the one in Terminus 21, and where the best papaya salad is to be found. Evening drinks are on the room's balcony overlooking the waterfall at Agate, not in a bar. And bed is at 2200. And here's the thing. The experiences of my two Pattayas are different and yet each gives, or once gave me, exactly what is needed - socially, emotionally and, yes, sexually. There can be few resorts in the world that can offer so much to people like us and continue to do so as we age and our desires and needs change. A guy in Amsterdam's Blue Boy Bar (a place many will recall) told me about Pattaya in 1995 after an £80 encounter, when I had just come out. I shall always be grateful to him, as well as to the denizens of Pattaya and its guys (not all of them cute, but enough), my old friend , and of course my partner, whom I miss desperately when I'm not in Thailand.

Haha the same thing happened to me, except it was the bar tender at the Club 21 next door! He suggested I try Thailand even if I wasn’t attracted to Asian guys. So I booked a two week trip and spent half of it in Bangkok and the second half in Pattaya. When the two weeks were up I returned to the UK. A week later I was back in Pattaya, got a condo, and stayed 3 months! I have now been doing so for just under 20 years.

Day 8 As they say, time to say goodbye. Breakfast, again I was only farang looking guest there. Fast packing as most of my goodies are still in Baan Silom, monorel to KL Sentral and airport express from there. Air Asia did not gave me a chance to select a seat for free and system assigned me middle one but by grace of God other two seats in my row were nor assigned so I had 3 seats for myself , too bad it was only 2.hr15 mins flight. In Don Muang very fast , no immigration line whatsoever. Going to the train I heard my name all of the sudden. One of guys from former Bangkok Massage whose brother I offed at least 10 times was waiting for somebody and recognized me. Not in business any more , scuba dive instructor now. Another proof that world is small. In coupon restaurant on the way to station I treated myself with duck on the rice for 65 baht, my usual treat when in DMK and 1 hr later I returned to Baan Silom to learn that I was assigned the same room, not that I care as anyone would do. At 7 I was supposed to meet another member ggobkk who was gracious enough to find some time for meeting on day of his return home. It was about to rain so I decided to go to GBangkok bit earlier , great idea as it started raining at 7 on the dot. My friend arrived with big umbrella but soon rain stopped, After chat and dinner and more chat we decided to go to Screwboys, first visit for both of us after reopening. Mamasan recognized us immediately, they did not really opened yet but she ordered few guys to the stage, few were OK and # 26 got tips for good looks from both of us. She also remembered that my best boy ever, One was from there and showed me his pictures, serious man in mid thirties now , father of 3 but still I recall him vividly . Muscular hunk who knew very well what his clients want and delivered. But it was in 2015 and after that he disapeared from the scene for good. 100 baht for her to keep that memory fresh forever, then after a while ggobkk went to his hotel to get ready for his trip and I went to jeweler on Thaniya to exchange some money. Then to Hot male beer bar to have drinks with boys and asked P to be there tomorrow at 3 so we can assess my new stamp acquisition. Then climbed stairs to Freshboys to watch the show and tip the best looking guy as usual. By sheer coincidence he had number #26 as well . He would be my candidate for an off but over Line I already promised N, the masseur, that we sleep together tonight so went home so to speak empty handed. On my way I met on Silom his workmate who assured me that N will be there after he closes shop at 1 as today was his turn about which I was aware already.

Day 7 I waked up at 8.30 and right after breakfast I went to take hop-on , hop off bus. Virgin trip for me as I never used it anywhere. It has 17 or 18 stops , runs every 20 mins and covers all main attractions. I don’t remember cost but something tells me 60 normal , 30 senior. Whatever it is , good value for money. Mostly it stops only if there’s request but at Royal Palace ( I think is called National House there was 20 minutes stop for photos and toilet. I regret not having stop at birds park , apparently biggest of this kind in the world and it looked big although probably can take good part of day to visit so other places would be missed) It seemed most of tourist on my bus were locals and this being Malaysia comments were in good English. At stop nr 14 or 15 I decide to modify my plans as it was KL Tower, another high place. They have glass booths similar to ones at Mahanakhon but enclosed and time there is monitored and limited to few minutes. Those who remember old 1 ringgit note , Tower was featured on it. No senior discount so full 110 price but it was worth it if only to see Petronases from up high. Tower is on the hill so if taking public transit it may be n bit of uphill walk. Then I took the same bus to Bukit where I had lunch , of course chicken with cashew nuts , if only to compare with Bangkok. Then to Central market where I bought few trinkets for folks at home and from there I walked to nearby Merdeka (Freedom) square with interesting architecture and pole with giant Malaysian flag. As main squares go this was on human scale and I liked it. From my school years I recalled book called “Merdeka means freedom “ about Malaysian independence struggle and was glad that I was finally able to be there. It was afternoon and heat get to me so I decided to return to hotel as my friend had some entertainment planned for us for the evening. Because nature of this trip I constantly compare Thailand with Malaysia and must say in one filed Kuala Lumpur beat Bangkok not 10 but 20 times. Grindr. While in BKK I get few messages a day here my phone was pinging constantly , record I noted was 19 messages in 1 hour ! Unfortunately I did not utilize opportunity but it was close call as one guy accosting me actually stay in the same hotel. How I know? He actually told me he saw me in the lobby. Unfortunately he was not exactly my type and he killed his chances with calling me ‘daddy ‘ . I was called worse by better people but hate that. Call me old or ancient but ‘daddy ‘ or ‘papa ‘ is death sentence as far as engagement is concerned. We actually came eye to eye in the evening when my friend arrived and guy just emerged from hotel. Not sure he tried to stalk me but later he sent me a message saying how disappointed he is with my lack of interest. Then my friend and me went to some well conspired place providing massage services for man by man. One needs to call to get admission to the building , then wait for unit to open. Inside there were quite a few attractive guys so we made our pick and pay fee of 280 for 1.5 hr. of full service, whatever it is. Then we went to another locale in the same building where we could survey stamp collection or whatever was on the table. Place was clean, guy, Myanmarese, was willing and time kept to a minute. So I liked it , tipped guy 100 extra although I was told it was not necessary. 380 RM is roughly 3000 baht so is comparable to Bkk prices in Silom ghetto or likes like Jey Spa or Prince. Thrill was for free. My friend dropped me at hotel, my stalker was nowhere to be seen although there were few messages from him I mentioned earlier. I had moment thinking about calling him over but my gut feeling told me ‘no’, he was just too persistent, forget even whole ‘daddy ‘ issue. Floridarob claims I’m easy but I have some idiosyncrasies I observe and being too pushy or too persistent is one of them, specially when guy is of unknown quality. I even went downstairs to store nearby to buy package of loose leaf BOH tea, Malaysian brand from Cameron highlands which I found very good.

To make a small fortune in Thailand, you start with a large fortune 😉

No, no and no. Confusing young poor farm boys who will pretty much agree to anything to get some money, and then refusing to pay them for a reason they don't understand is monstrous. Or maybe you want to legally enter into a signed contract for prostitution in Thailand? Sounds like a great way to end up in the monkey house. Do you think before you speak?

best way is to go and check yourself. One thing is for sure - you can't visit Pattaya of days past anymore so rather focus on what's there now. And there's plenty

day, night , bridge inside and view from the almost top floor

I found his accent more comprehensive than that of most of British celebrities. He is right, those days travelling was much more of adventure but while memories are precious and fun I still prefer days now when one can organize whole trip in few hours like I did for my unexpected May trip. Not to mention relative price of flight dropped down mightily even if in nominal may be more

Steve Rosse has his own Youtube channel which is a bit off the wall, but entertaining sometimes too. If people are feeling nostalgic for Thailand of the Eighties, a straight Youtuber called "Karl's Thailand" has an interesting collection of videos where he provides reminisces and commentary over photos he took during travels in Thailand from 1987 to 1992. Its better than it sounds - he has a cool Cockney geezer accent too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns5YafVjhzU&t=38s He also has loads of videos where he explores out-of he way places in Thailand in the present day - interesing if the thoughst of exploring deepest Isaan fascinates you...

I doubt, while I don't go for vacation to save money since staying at home does better job in this department I'm not big on freeloaders. While I understand buying drinks for all boys present , why to treat other patrons the same way ? But yes I will ring the bell next time when it will be situation I had one afternoon last trip , Aung behind the counter and me , only patron . Cheap fun

I think this is brilliant! Go for it.

or reckless spenders

for breakfast I like that O'Delices , French bakery on the corner , across from Soda massage,

I see! Luckily I didn't ring the bell!

The Predator, also known as "Mr Contract" is the worst of humans. He has a translated contract on his 15 year old phone he makes boys agree to if they want to be paid. He is nasty, violent and has hurt boys before. As you said, there is a reason many bar owners don't let him enter. It's a shame he hasn't been dealt with, but that's clearly why he targets the "non-Thai boys" who have no legal help. As for the plastic bag that piece of shit carries around. It's a bottle of water, and the 50% of the 99 Baht "daily special" at subway he bought for dinner. Food is expensive I guess. As for the guy in Question Mark. Yes I know who you mean. I saw him, although I didn't see "THAT" happen. Fucking vile. He's another person expats avoid like the plague.

National Palace, KL Tower, glass cage on top, some fearless soul, Central market, Merdeka square

INTRODUCTION That was nasty surprise. One evening I felt something between discomfort and light pain. By the morning it was something under my skin which was mildly painful and could be easily felt as it was size of , say 10 baht coin. In the following days it did not grew but mild pain, sometimes just discomfort persisted. Of course in such case we assume the worst and so did I, specially that survived that long without hospitals and treatments. Then there were some obstacles like my workload and my doctor on vacations. Anyways after 4 weeks of kind of terror, more mental than physical though, I got tested. It was Wednesday. On Thursday at precisely 2.14 p.m. phone rung. It was not marketer, it was my doctor. “ Don’t worry , it’s just a cyst and eventually it will be absorbed. Nothing to worry about “ . Thank you doctor, you saved my life again said I. Now, May is my traditional vacation month for two reasons, I’m tired with work and my wallet is packed. But this year for reasons not related to me nor Thailand May vacation were not in the cards. Doctor’s phone changed all that. I said he called at 2.14 p.m. By time I went to bed around 11.30 pm. I had already booked tickets to Bangkok for 6.30pm on Sunday and from there to Kuala Lumpur and back plus all hotels in Bangkok, KL and Pattaya. 72 hours and I was on the road. This was my reward I granted myself on account of good news. I loved it as my best vacations were always on the whim and not planned but with 72 hrs. I was even impressed with myself . Not particularly cheap, in fact my most expensive Thai trip ticket ever and not fast with 2 connections but who cares?. I got clean bill of health and on the road again. What else I may want ? When waked up Sunday morning , day of my departure I noticed very strange thing. Usually in such circumstances I should be dreaming about some naked hunk beside me with my hand on his thing but instead first thing which came to my mind was pizza at Madrid Tavern and schnitzel at Gbangkok. OMG I thought, is that it, am I losing it or what ? In January after Cambodian fiasco I was afraid I may turn lesbian but food lover? Me? It was my first flight through Middle East connection , namely Qatar. I had expectancies based on what I read on the forum and heard from others. I found airline agreeable, service was good although seemed bit disorganized. Food kind of so, so, but would be treat for salt lovers. In short not as great as some claimed and not bad at all. What I loved though was Doha airport and while initially I was not happy with 3 hrs layover , when there I was glad I had so much time for my disposal. Surprise in the airport – relatively few travelers in traditional ‘sheikh” white garb or veiled women. Landed in Bangkok very conveniently at 6.30 am almost no lines in immigration. I wisely decided to buy SIM card before picking my luggage and it popped out exactly in the moment I approached conveyor. So it was breeze. Checked rates at exchange booths and again wisely did not change money as XOne on Suriwong , it turned out, had bit better rate. ARL to BTS, change at Siam, short walk from Sala Daeng to soi 8 and my day 1 started Day 1 To be sure I will have an access to bed and shower I booked room at Nantra Silom for night before. Bit horror as they initially couldn’t find my reservation but finally they did. Not much changed from last time I was there pre-covid. Breakfast served no more and computers are gone from the lobby. Room was clean , A/C was working and so was shower. Safety deposit box did not but me , always naïve decided to take a chance and left is as is hoping for the best , as it turned out , rightly so. One thing was missing – not even one hanger. But with markets in soi 10 and soi 5 across Silom deficiency easily fixable. It was morning so next step was breakfast in world famous Unesco heritage Foodland Patpong where I was recognized by at least 3 waiters and greeted with smile, shortly boss himself was passing by and wai me as well. Welcome home vinapu thought I. Then round of area, I always like scenes and smells of morning market in Patpong 1, went to XOne to exchange money , Silom market to buy, you guessed rightly 5 hangers for 50 baht. ( no, I did not donate them to Nantra, took with me and only left in my last hotel ). Returning to hotel I saw short but very muscular guy in front of one of massage places in soi 6. He noticed my interest and run toward me trying to secure massage but I was sleepy despite this being only noon so promised to see him later . Lets call him N and we will hear about him often in this report. But now I collapsed on the bed exhausted by long trip and jet lag which is tormenting me more and more as I age. I did not sleep on the plane and to add , two ladies sitting in my row were yakking quite loudly for most of the flight. Returned to life around 3pm and yes , went to see N. It was very good decision as massage was excellent, it truly was. Not particularly cheap, 950 for the shop for 1.5 hr and N wanted 2000 for his troubles but I was happy, particularly that he came with idea of overnight with me before I even managed to opened my mouth. Well massaged , thus invigorated and feeling hungry marched toward Suriwong and in front of Tawan I saw Dum , boy I offed several times, sitting proudly on motorcycle. It turned out that during day he is motorsai driver , returning to bar duties at night. So asked him to give me ride to Madrid Tavern in Charoen Krung soi 49, paid him 60 baht. Business is business. Lady at Madrid not only recognized me immediately, right away asked : “Chang , no glass ?” and when I selected spinach and cheese pizza she expressed shock why not my usual shallots and cherry tomatoes so I was forced to change to my usual. Also asked about my friend whom she did not see for quite long meaning Christian PFC as we dined there many times on both old location and current. I promised to bring him in one day. Getting dark so time for bars, first go to HotMale beer bar where I met reader and after a while we decided to check on Banana club in soi 4 which I consider 2nd most friendly bar after Tawan and even Lucy is not able to change that. I called one of boys to sit with me loyally telling him I already have boy for the night but we had pleasant time and tipped him 500 just for fun of it. Lucy of course tried to leech some tip but I stood my ground although she was tempting me with showing her knee , go figure. Next step was Moonlight. A, the hunk I offed on my last nights in last two trips spotted me right away , came to shake hands and asked for drink which I gladly bought hoping to have nice time holding his massive forearm. But after sip or two he asked me to let him to greet some client so old idiot I agreed and he never returned that evening obviously having better time there . So my 400 were misspent so to speak. While I like him very much thank you I still considered it rude and taking me for granted. Leaving bar I not only knew who is sleeping with me tonight but I also knew who won’t for sure this trip. On my way home I peeked into Tawan but they were already emptying so promised to see them another night. N showed as promised at 1 and we had indeed good time so trip started well.

If you have read any of my previous reporta on Argentina, you know how fond I am of local bakeries and patisseries. I am for a few hours in Buenos Aires (will return this Friday), and just had a quick walk in my former hood, Recoleta. These are some of the prices in one of my best bakeries, Dos Escudos (you will need to zoom in): And for the meat lovers, this is from Res, perhaps the biggest local butcheries chain: Today the exchange rate is U$S 1 = $AR 262 (OFFICIAL) = $AR 492 (BLUE).

I am planning to start my business in Thailand hopefully by December. This will ofcourse be a gay bar but I am planning to get Models from different nationality such as Morroco, South Korea, Japan, Philippines and Africa. Also on tge second floor, im planning to have a good rooms for those who want to do ST. Do you think this will be a good idea? Im also open for partnership but lets talk personally on Bangkok. I already talk to one Thailand nationality so this busoness will surely happens. Just plotting everything we need.

Oh how I havent missed most of you but Im back...Its been TOO long... Back to talk about my escapades in Rio.... Will be back in October and New Years is already booked! Last time I was there was March....TOO DAMN long Long story short, my phone was lost and found, CC was used that was in my case BUT it's all good... Looking forward to commenting on the new content and adding some SPICE....I hate BLAND

Sorry friend. Everything you wrote is illegal in Thailand. Good luck!

I think a couple of people are on "time out" been pretty quiet 😉

My view is that papaya salad and chicken with cashew nuts are aphrodisiacs. The same used to be said of oysters.

Australian pound was replaced by dollar about 50-60 years ago

Our recommendation for Thai food is Dick's Cafe. Its brother in Soi Twilight is much-missed. Good prices, extensive menu. A good place to sit and enjoy the passing scene , particularly now that there more venues across the soi.

I will not be surprised if you ring the bell in future!

Yes, these are the very popular guys who have regular customers whom they meet directly on their own. Or maybe they have sugardaddies who provide for them and they work at bar just for fun.

Yes ring the bell and you have to buy everyone in the bar a drink, usually used by show off's, someone celebrating something or richer people.

fill out their customer service form and you should at least get some extra miles compensation. Better than nothing

Barr has been surprisingly refreshing to listen to. For many liberals he is still kind of a fascist himself. But what is helpful about him right now is he is bending over backwards to say there is something called "the law". And it is not the same as politics or partisanship. And this idea that the law means one thing for Republicans, and another thing for Democrats - which is what Republicans are having a huge pity party about - is just not the truth. Period. The law is the law. And Trump's former AG knows something about the law. Period. That probably explains Barr being precise in saying that whatever would have to be proved in court on J6 is not the same as what has to be proved about Trump obstructing justice with the military and nuclear documents. I'm not a lawyer. But I suspect Barr is on target in arguing that it would be hard to prove in court that Trump wanted a violent riot. Or he specifically wanted people to beat the shit out of cops. Or he specifically wanted them to kill Mike Pence and Nancy Pelosi. Or even that he specifically wanted some kind of revolution. To use Barr's words, as much as I view lying about losing an election and trying to subvert democracy as the bigger crime, it is probably legally correct that none of what Trump did on J6 makes him "toast," legally. Whereas on obstructing justice by keeping military and nuclear documents, Trump is "toast," as Barr said. A lawyer like him would probably know. In @Lucky's defense, the indictment he was referring to is Bragg's case. One can certainly argue that, in retrospect, all it did was draw support to Trump and help him raise money. Kudos to Paul Ryan and John Bolton, two more lifelong conservatives who are loudmouths about this. Ryan on CBS just referred to the Bragg case as "petty." But he made a big point about how Trump fucking with the government to treat military and nuclear secrets as his own personal records is just wrong. And illegal. Bolton pointed out that the DOJ or anyone should put pressure on NYC and Bragg to let the other indictment (or maybe indictments?) go first, since they take precedence. My theory, which Ryan and Bolton and Barr are all reinforcing, is that each indictment is like a nail in the coffin. While the J6 and Georgia "find me 11,780 votes" indictments may not be as clean legally, they sure seem to be like more horrific offenses, and huge nails, to me. And to most Independents, according to I think every poll. I'll add RCP's AB Stoddard as another right of center thinker who says very clearly, "Enough! This man is a fucking spoiled brat. We should not feel sorry for him. How long are we going to tolerate this total bullshit? It's abusive. I hate it." She almost says it that bluntly. I hope Republicans get their way regarding the double standard with Hillary Clinton. There's three very important things we know about Hillary, if we want to be fair and avoid a double standard. First, the bumper sticker of Election Year 2016 was, "Lock Her Up!" Taken literally, it is okay for me, as a Democrat, to follow that standard and argue Trump is guilty before proven innocent. So he should be locked up immediately. Second, Clinton was not indicted. But her emails were talked about all year in 2016. Let's just assume for purposes of being fair that Clinton's emails and obstruction were the same as Trump's legally - which they are not, of course. The point is, assuming it's the same thing, we of course need to talk every fucking day about how Trump is now a total piece of shit - a murderous traitor and scumbag - that needs to be locked up. Now! Just like Hillary was in 2016. Fair is fair. Third, few people realize this, but Hillary lost the election in 2016. (She actually won the popular vote by the millions. But most Democrats - unlike most Republicans - respect The Constitution.) So if the fair and uniform standard is that in the final week before the 2016 election the FBI was biting huge pieces of Hillary's ass off, that is what they should do to Trump. Rip his fat ass apart. And be precise. Who care's about 2023? If we are being fair, the FBI needs to make sure it drives a seriously fucking sharp machete straight up Lock Him Up Don's law breaking ass IN THE WEEK BEFORE PEOPLE VOTE IN 2024. Neither Comey, nor the FBI, said their intent was to make sure Hillary lost in 2016. But she did lose. And Hillary and I both agree that the machete they drove up her ass IN THE WEEK BEFORE PEOPLE VOTED IN 2016 was probably the fatal nail in her coffin. So, if we are being fair, we need to save the best for last. We need to make horrific charges against Trump. Hopefully not even based in fact, like Comey's October surprise in 2016. Fair is fair. Republicans who whine about double standards perhaps don't know that Hillary lost in 2016, thanks to the FBI. Or maybe that is the double standard. Perhaps what they really mean is that it's okay that what Hillary did maybe cost her the Presidency in 2016. But in 2024, we want Trump to be above the law, unlike Hillary. I'll leave it to conservatives like Bill Barr and Paul Ryan and John Bolton to help the MAGA True Patriots to figure that shit out. 😯 Good luck, guys. Speaking of Hillary, I think the real danger here is that, in the weird world of politics, this does the opposite of what it did in 2016. In 2016 all the allegations involving national security and breaking laws definitely hurt Hillary. The polls showed it, and she lost the election. If there is something similar, it is what Paul Ryan just argued. Republicans would have won the Senate and more House seats but for Trump in 2022. He argued that Trump is the one candidate who will hand the election, and the Senate, to Biden in 2024. Because these are all nails in his coffin. But he also noted that politics in never linear. So in some weird way, the danger is that a majority of Americans actually feel sorry for Trump. Because he is right. He is simply be persecuted. And the majority of fair-minded Americans know it. The polls, and the 2020 and 2022 election results, suggest the exact opposite. Barr is saying loud and clear Trump broke the law. And, thus, is "toast." But who knows? Trump and MAGA are sure hoping that people feel sorry for our poor little rich juvenile delinquent. Stranger things have happened. I'll be very broken record about this. In the end, I think it's the economy, stupid. Or, a bit more precisely, it's the recession, stupid. As of yesterday one bullish stock talking head said we are on the verge of an expansion. And the S & P will end 2023 at 4800. Meaning by Election Day 2024 we will be well into all time highs. Mike Wilson, the Bear In Chief at Morgan Stanley, says the S & P ends 2023 at 3900. Which one is correct, and the implications on the economy and inflation, probably matters more to Biden than Trump's indictments. Happily, most talking heads - bull or bear - premise their arguments on the idea that by next Fall inflation will be back to "normal." Wilson thinks that will hurt corporate earnings, and the S & P. Because the free ride for big corporations being able to crank up profits to record levels based on COVID is over. Not his exacts words. But if he's right, that may actually help Biden.

That is why he wonders around endlessly. Boys avoid him, bar owners and mamasans warn the boys. I think it makes him more angry and nasty than anything. I know one bar owner who lets him sit, which he did a few months ago when he was last in Jomtien, but he is very clear with his staff, NO BOYS CAN SIT WITH HIM. It happened once, he never sat down again.

No, my friend. I am on my annual family visit to Argentina. I am back to loving America. Although I am not happy with how they handled the situation, they upgraded me and had a fantastic flight with excellent service. After 24 hours in the airport, I slept like a baby for the entire flight.

part of my bravery was that he is veteran so I saw and tipped him many times although never offed. I don't mind them watching straight porn as I usually watch them , not their screens agree, it's why it's good to have an internal limit and stick to it , doesn't matter how hot guy is, specially if untested, no shortage of guys willing to do LT for 3000, perhaps even less. On another hand many guys who are screaming murder at such prices are spending much more when bar fees and rounds of drinks there are counted ie. our drink, boy' drink, mamasan drink is already, say 1500. not to mention rounds of tips. But fun is precious. to cover wider audience in some bars I employ strategy of telling boy I will be offing him today but have other (s) sitting and drinking with me , that way more guys are avoiding unemployment

@vinapu only you will be so bold to wrap a tip around a guy's cock when he's getting himself ready for big cock show. i know most forum members are used to straight guys watching porn videos to get themselves up. Last night in my hotel room, Tawan twink was watching Japanese hentai anime comics on his tablet!

Saturday (Day 14) - Poker night in hotel room with 3 Laos guys with loser drinking soju shots or stripping one piece of clothing. Winner of each round wins 100 baht. I met and got to know them over the years and had offed them individually. Last December during Christmas, all 3 were working at Banana and I took them back for poker party. 6 months later, one has upgraded to Jupiter (because he is most handsome among them) while another went back to Freshboys where he first started. The youngest had gone back to Laos but came back to Bangkok to work again at Banana just a few days ago. I had their Line accounts and told them in advance the plan for the night - pick up Jupiter Laos guy first followed by Banana Laos guy then they go to Foodland Patpong to order dinner while I pick up Freshboys Laos guy. As it was early at about 8.30pm, bars were empty and mamasans were flexible. They allowed me to just turn up at bar and no need to buy drink for myself. Just pay off fee. But it was my last night of this trip and feeling generous, I tipped the mamasans. Because the 3 Laos guys haven't met each other for a while now that they are working at different bars, it was awkward for them at first when we had dinner together at Foodland Patpong but once they got warmed up, it was like old times joking and having fun. After dinner, we walked as a group back to hotel, passing by Hotmale beer bar downstairs and I said bye to the staff there and see you again in December for Christmas. In hotel room, we thankfully didn't get any complaints from hotel because of too much noise. This time round, everyone had gotten wiser at poker so no one ended up stripped down to birthday suit. After finishing the soju and winning the money I prepared for them, they left happily. I went with them down to hotel lobby. We went our separate ways. I went to Tawan to off tall dark twink with glasses whom I had seen a few days ago. Very young only 19. Thai. Horny like crazy and kept begging to fuck me. Enjoyable session. Only downer is he asked for extra for taxi.

few picks from trip to Nakhom Phatom : Bang Sue station from outside, line up to board train , train in platform, food offering aboard and Great Stupa from as seen from the station and up close

Day 3 In meantime N, the masseur, is carpet bombing me with messages of how much he misses me, how great I am (like I don’t already know), dispensing advices to sleep plenty and eat well etc. I know it’s well intentioned but annoying too. My mother was not even 1/10 that overbearing. I like him and want to see him again so I feel entrapped. On my way to Foodland I met him is Silom, promised him another sleepover tonight. Today is my tourist day, I went to Nakhon Pathom to see Great Stupa I saw from distance when going to train market in February. With trains moved to Bang Sue Grand Station it’s a bit of travel. -BTS to Mor Chit,then 2 stops by MRT to station itself . Station is clearly oversized for traffic it handles and since my train was long distance it was some celebration. Passengers lined up in vast waiting area and we were admitted to a platform in orderly queue only 20 minutes before departure but for 20 baht fare I can suffer plenty. Right after train started rolling so did numerous food vendors offering food and drinks and as I noticed doing quite a brisk trade. In about 1 hr I was there. No problem finding stupa as it is 200 m from station at other end of wide street connecting those two. Admission for foreigners was 60 baht. It is of impressive size and worth detour. On platform there’s big poster showing other attraction of the city certainly proud of being home of Thailand’s biggest stupa. After sightseeing I walked through the market and acquired 2 pair of shorts with multiple pockets ( 6 at front and 2 in the back ) I so like at 400 baht a piece. Returned by commuter train to Thonburi station, for some reason fare was not 20 but whopping 40 baht. From there walked to the river and took the Chao Praya Express boat to Saphan Taksin pier. Jet lag is still tormenting me but barely alive I went to G’Bangkok in soi 4 for their Thursday schnitzel special at 199 as always warmly greeted by the owner and both Banana barkers across. No doubt their enthusiasm is generated by my good looks and heart , not the 100 baht I occasionally, but not every time, no, no, slip into their undies just to train my Vinapu tuck motions. But one of them is veteran of soi Twilight and another one object of my quiet adoration, lol. From there , invigorated by warm welcome and good food I went to Hot Male beer bar to have a beer there and chat with Aung, funny Myanmarese twink and then to Tawan where me, newest ATM model, was enthusiastically welcomed with hugs, lowered briefs and palms outstretched but today I had them disappointed for shortage of red notes. Even one of their performers sitting outside gave me heartily hug saying ‘ welcome back Mr. KFC. I like that “Mister ‘ part as it boosted my ego exponentially. Tips or not , always fun there. It was still early but Mas, the twink did not waste time and offered massage upstairs. Generally not a good idea after just having a dinner but I like him and his massage is pretty skilled so I agreed and soon we were climbing stairs. Fee is 900 , not necessarily cheap for very average facilities but as I said I have weak spot for masseur so why not ? 1.5 hr nice session I can repeat every day although it crossed my mind it would be cheaper just to off him to hotel for 500 instead of paying their somewhat extortionate fee. By time we finished show started so additional bonus when going down was to see preparation and one of their guy was getting hard to a straight porn movie , I couldn’t resist and wrapped red note around his impressive, ready for presentation , endowment. He did not resist either, lol. Bar was packed and they had me sitting just by the back door but soon somebody left and I was offered better space. I noticed few new faces , both bodybuilders and some twinky types and one very proportionally built hunk , not exactly teenager with ass to die for so spoiled few newbies with tips as I miraculously found 500 baht in 100 notes in one of my 8 pockets. Remember that hunk as we will meet him toward end of trip. So as always despite not so subtle tip pressure, that being my own fault I agree, I had , as always , tons of fun in Tawan. Returned to hotel and was waiting for N to show up for promised overnight. Shortly I could welcome him in front of hotel but in the room we discovered nasty surprise – no water in the washroom. Fortunately he had shower before arrived and I had at Tawan after massage . Big bottle in refrigerator was enough to refresh our teeth and we went to bed but activities for drought reason were somewhat restricted. Nobody’s fault and still nice exercise. Night guard promised things will be taken care in the morning and soothingly informed me that in case we need toilet , one by reception is fully functional

Day 2 No rush in the morning, N wanted to stay longer but I was hungry so ordered shower and trip to Unesco for breakfast. Then packed my luggage and went to my next dig – Baan Silom in soi 3. That’s one of my most favorite places in Silom and almost no trip goes without me staying there. Nothing fancy but very comfortable and spacious rooms, full size refrigerator, friendly hosts and night guard, very close to bars yet soi 3 with exception of morning and afternoon rush hours is quiet street. 7/11 across the street, and lively market right around the corner. Room was available so I was able to check in right away and got the room I was sleeping in many times before. For last few trips I become fan of Jey Spa in Sukhumvit soi 43 . I like their selection and fast response time . Guy I wanted based on their Line feed, Ten was not available this week so I settled on Noom whom I saw in Dec 2001 in Sabaidee spa and for whom I got very good feedback from one of our members who was entertained by him few times. On my way there I went to Siam paragon just to stroll through as I can’t recall I was there in the past. I’m not mall person and in Bangkok neighborhood markets like soi 10 or soi 5 plus Silom stores is all I need. Arrived at Jey bit earlier and noticed they have discreet but visible sign now. It’s about 10 minutes walk from either Phrom Phnom or Thonglor BTS stations. Place is bit upscale , fitting it’s neighborhood and VIP rooms are like regular hotels rooms. Sure it cists but they have cheaper options too. 1.5 hr in VIP is 1250 for massage , when one books guy is informed what is his minimum tip rate for desired length of time. I was told 1800 for 1.5 hr. Noom is one of those who look better in flesh than on pics , much better. If not recommendation I’d probably miss him. He turned out great guy and it was very pleasant and rewarding 1.5 hrs . What a hunk, what a body ! I was almost tempted to have another session right away but start feeling sleepy so returned to hotel to collapse one the bed from 4.30 to 8.30. Those jet lags are killing me. Then to G’Bangkok in soi 4 for my dinner warmly welcomed by not only boss there but also both barkers from Banana across the soi. I have secret crush on one of them but I’m too shy to approach him but always promise myself I will do next trip. During dinner one of members Lined me asking what are my planes for tonight and I realized that I have none. It’s almost 10 pm and I don’t know where to go. What’s wrong with me ? I took easy way and went to Jupiter in the same soi. Wise decision. I entered just before first boy parade. Everybody was in briefs but without number. I was stunned. Probably first time in any bar I ever been in Thailand I liked every single one of them. Not even one I’d not take home. 100% approval rate, wow! And this comes from me , never being fan of Jupiter and it’s boys. While I like their look I find their lack of facial expression off putting although I know if’s just a management ordered pose because when boys are sitting with you or being offed they behave normally . In the past I never had much luck with them with exception of certain transplant from Tawan and my visits there were only for visual pleasure. I also don’t get logic of boys hidden in the corners and parading without numbers , how we are supposed to get them ? seems too much effort. But last two offs from there were very good so I started sniffing around tonight for an opportunity I watched a show , mid way was another parade, this time boys were in boxers but still without numbers. Some sported even trace of smile, o, la, la. Show quite interesting and entertaining and one can glimpse erect cock here and there for few precious seconds , thing unheard of before. After show third parade, this time bare chested guys in jeans but sporting numbers, sign that it’s time to get serious . Since one of guys noticing my interest smiled at me broadly during that walkabout I asked mamasan to bring him over. Came all in smiles and when asked about going with me accepted immediately so I did not even bother with drink but just paid off fee and off we went parading through soi holding hands at his insistence. Very embarrassing as I’m very shy guy , on Silom he changed to embrace me and that’s how we arrived in hotel, my heart pumping. Seemed great off again but in the room return to usual Jupiter scheme, sweet but hasty. Long time yes but 6000 so I declined an offer. So we had 40 minutes steamy, sweet but rush session. When he left I was both happy and disappointed as I could use his great company longer but no, not for 6000. Since I slept during day I did not feel sleepy at night and after he left I caught with Line and e-mails as well as forum , even surveyed Grindr and went to bed only at 3.30 am ending quite a nice day 2

Friday (Day 13) - Karaoke night with three Hotmale Beer Bar downstairs staff and fellow forum member. Found out that Happy Beer Garden has karaoke room at back. It charges 200 baht per hour. Manageress saw our group and knew that we would be ordering food and beer and she gave us a special rate of 500 baht for room for whole night. We didn't sing for the whole night but were there from 8pm to 1am which was 5 hours. Had to stop at 1am because some of the guys were half drunk. I think about 20 bottles of Lao beer consumed. Fellow forum member and I were pleasantly surprised by how much the guys love to sing. We found out that Myanmese and Laos music are so interesting. Most are slow and folksy in nature but there are some fast songs with guitar solos. There was one song about Pakse - which was a city in Laos and the hometown of one of the guys. There's even a gay Myanmar pop song! Fellow forum member and I saw the music video which had ladies dancing and a guy singing and we didn't know what's so gay about it but maybe it's in the lyrics, which we of course didn't understand. Overall a pleasant change from the typical night at bar.

Alex (Burmese) Toy (Lao) and a few other very nice boys work at the bay downstairs. Good friends for me, we always hang out when they are in Pattaya. Yes, you can take them. Just tell them what you want. The one difference is, the boys there are probably looking for more than a short time. Most of them spend their time traveling around Thailand with customers. At least from what I see on their Facebook feeds!

I am the same, although I can understand the hotel policy to deposit the ID for their guests safety I feel embarrassed for my companion threatening him like a potential criminal, also I had horrible stories of reception staff demanded money from the boy in order to give them back their ID . When I stayed at Silom I preferred hotels which can bypass the reception easley straight to the room.

I didn't go for massage. I went for show last night. Interesting show especially the SM aspect.

I have had similar thoughts though 'terrified' might not be the word I would use. I once chatted with and liked a guy in Tawan, but I remember, quite vividly, hesitating over the off when he told me he had been bulking up in the weeks before, but it was hard work etc etc, and he "only" weighed 98 kilos. And then I pictured a scene of 98 kilos on top of me and I couldn't breathe. But my (admittedly not too numerous) experiences with Tawan boys have been good. They're easy going and even a bit docile in the room. I made 98 kilos promise not to lie atop me. He kept his promise. Macaroni is still alive, and here to tell.

first , nobody will crush you there because Tawan is in my opinion friendliest bar of them all, even friendlier than Banana Second , when I was there last week it was at least 5 or 6 twinks / twunks in audience including smallest one who is also bottom in 'special 'show and original resident twink Mas who gives quite decent massages upstairs. Third don't bring shame to this forum and visit Tawan tonight. Show starts 10.30 so program is 9-10.30 massage upstairs with Mas or some other guy , 10.30-11.30 watching show, from 11.30 off bottom twink to nearby hotel to do proper measurements . Ok? Promise ?

Having been in Bangkok for one week, I have visited all bars except Tawan. I am terrified of Tawan because I am small sized and afraid of being crushed by huge Tawan guys! I agree that ranking the bars is difficult because everyone has personal preference so maybe it helps to state one's preference first. For me, I like twinks and twunks. If hunks, not too big please. I like handsome faces as well. Tattoos are OK but not too many please. And lastly, I don't have budget for models who ask for 5000 baht short time. Hence, my list of bars to off a guy in Bangkok: 1) Screwboys 2) Hot Male / Banana / Freshboys 3) Jupiter / Moonlight / Dreamboys But when it comes to watching a show and just having a good time, this is my list: 1) Jupiter / Moonlight / Banana 2) Dreamboys / Hot Male / Freshboys 3) Screwboys

There's no such thing like best bar. First, your criteria what constitutes 'best' may not necessarily correspond with somebody else's . The same goes with quality boys. What that really means ? Some may be looking for face , others for cuteness, other still for lack of tattoo, disk size, bushy or shaved pubes etc. Sex performance? again what's that? Great l top may be lousy or most likely , not existing, bottom. Drinks are pretty uniformly priced at 400-500 and off fees are 500 with exception of models at Moonlight where it's 1000. Even if you ask what is members favorite bar and why you may get whole list as different people are looking for different things.

Ya, what did I miss? It's sometimes fun to watch catfights, but I try to tell myself that it's never any fun for moderators. So, let me put in a word of appreciation for the hard and stressful work they do. Thank you for keeping this a valuable forum.

I wrote about “Pedro” during my pandemic visit. Mr Salvatore in 2021. He did not win a second title because he was travelling trough Europe. Saw him again today at Tira-dentes weekend at 117. He is still hot as ever. He was telling me that he is staying in rio for the week then São Paulo. I hve his permission to post the pix and his Insta here. The biggest improvement is that he is now bottoming. That muscle ass is “incrível”, a nice personality also. To my surprise he is telling me he is gay now, 6 years without women. https://www.instagram.com/reel/ClMcOCpJTip/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=