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Much talk about the reopening here: I wanted to try today as the word was it was open today. I got there EARLY. No customers and only 2 boys. The mamasan said I was too early and I knew that as I just wanted to check out the place. But, one of the guys I liked and remembered from MyHero or Prince before Covid. A muscle man with a big chest and massive legs and arms. He is handsome and I took him back. The price is 1,000 to Prince and minimum 1,500 to boy. The 1,000 is for one hour massage and standard room. There were no VIP rooms open as they are still renovating. The guy gave one of the best massages I have had in ages. Sex was good but the massage was excellent. I did tell mamasan I needed a good massage. The room was small but clean and had a shower. The shower floor had a bit of dust from renovation but that was OK. The bed was comfortable. On my way out I told the mamasan what I like and he said he would look for me. I told him the construction working twink he had outside was the type I was looking for. He said, "I'll get him for me. Give me 2 minutes." I laughed and said no. But, what the fuck was I thinking? I should have said yes. Anyway, the place is going to come back. It is slow, but coming. They also now have outcall service. 253/4 Suan Phlu 6 Alley, Thung Maha Mek, Sathon, Bangkok 10120

Saturday (Day 14) - Poker night in hotel room with 3 Laos guys with loser drinking soju shots or stripping one piece of clothing. Winner of each round wins 100 baht. I met and got to know them over the years and had offed them individually. Last December during Christmas, all 3 were working at Banana and I took them back for poker party. 6 months later, one has upgraded to Jupiter (because he is most handsome among them) while another went back to Freshboys where he first started. The youngest had gone back to Laos but came back to Bangkok to work again at Banana just a few days ago. I had their Line accounts and told them in advance the plan for the night - pick up Jupiter Laos guy first followed by Banana Laos guy then they go to Foodland Patpong to order dinner while I pick up Freshboys Laos guy. As it was early at about 8.30pm, bars were empty and mamasans were flexible. They allowed me to just turn up at bar and no need to buy drink for myself. Just pay off fee. But it was my last night of this trip and feeling generous, I tipped the mamasans. Because the 3 Laos guys haven't met each other for a while now that they are working at different bars, it was awkward for them at first when we had dinner together at Foodland Patpong but once they got warmed up, it was like old times joking and having fun. After dinner, we walked as a group back to hotel, passing by Hotmale beer bar downstairs and I said bye to the staff there and see you again in December for Christmas. In hotel room, we thankfully didn't get any complaints from hotel because of too much noise. This time round, everyone had gotten wiser at poker so no one ended up stripped down to birthday suit. After finishing the soju and winning the money I prepared for them, they left happily. I went with them down to hotel lobby. We went our separate ways. I went to Tawan to off tall dark twink with glasses whom I had seen a few days ago. Very young only 19. Thai. Horny like crazy and kept begging to fuck me. Enjoyable session. Only downer is he asked for extra for taxi.

Day 3 In meantime N, the masseur, is carpet bombing me with messages of how much he misses me, how great I am (like I don’t already know), dispensing advices to sleep plenty and eat well etc. I know it’s well intentioned but annoying too. My mother was not even 1/10 that overbearing. I like him and want to see him again so I feel entrapped. On my way to Foodland I met him is Silom, promised him another sleepover tonight. Today is my tourist day, I went to Nakhon Pathom to see Great Stupa I saw from distance when going to train market in February. With trains moved to Bang Sue Grand Station it’s a bit of travel. -BTS to Mor Chit,then 2 stops by MRT to station itself . Station is clearly oversized for traffic it handles and since my train was long distance it was some celebration. Passengers lined up in vast waiting area and we were admitted to a platform in orderly queue only 20 minutes before departure but for 20 baht fare I can suffer plenty. Right after train started rolling so did numerous food vendors offering food and drinks and as I noticed doing quite a brisk trade. In about 1 hr I was there. No problem finding stupa as it is 200 m from station at other end of wide street connecting those two. Admission for foreigners was 60 baht. It is of impressive size and worth detour. On platform there’s big poster showing other attraction of the city certainly proud of being home of Thailand’s biggest stupa. After sightseeing I walked through the market and acquired 2 pair of shorts with multiple pockets ( 6 at front and 2 in the back ) I so like at 400 baht a piece. Returned by commuter train to Thonburi station, for some reason fare was not 20 but whopping 40 baht. From there walked to the river and took the Chao Praya Express boat to Saphan Taksin pier. Jet lag is still tormenting me but barely alive I went to G’Bangkok in soi 4 for their Thursday schnitzel special at 199 as always warmly greeted by the owner and both Banana barkers across. No doubt their enthusiasm is generated by my good looks and heart , not the 100 baht I occasionally, but not every time, no, no, slip into their undies just to train my Vinapu tuck motions. But one of them is veteran of soi Twilight and another one object of my quiet adoration, lol. From there , invigorated by warm welcome and good food I went to Hot Male beer bar to have a beer there and chat with Aung, funny Myanmarese twink and then to Tawan where me, newest ATM model, was enthusiastically welcomed with hugs, lowered briefs and palms outstretched but today I had them disappointed for shortage of red notes. Even one of their performers sitting outside gave me heartily hug saying ‘ welcome back Mr. KFC. I like that “Mister ‘ part as it boosted my ego exponentially. Tips or not , always fun there. It was still early but Mas, the twink did not waste time and offered massage upstairs. Generally not a good idea after just having a dinner but I like him and his massage is pretty skilled so I agreed and soon we were climbing stairs. Fee is 900 , not necessarily cheap for very average facilities but as I said I have weak spot for masseur so why not ? 1.5 hr nice session I can repeat every day although it crossed my mind it would be cheaper just to off him to hotel for 500 instead of paying their somewhat extortionate fee. By time we finished show started so additional bonus when going down was to see preparation and one of their guy was getting hard to a straight porn movie , I couldn’t resist and wrapped red note around his impressive, ready for presentation , endowment. He did not resist either, lol. Bar was packed and they had me sitting just by the back door but soon somebody left and I was offered better space. I noticed few new faces , both bodybuilders and some twinky types and one very proportionally built hunk , not exactly teenager with ass to die for so spoiled few newbies with tips as I miraculously found 500 baht in 100 notes in one of my 8 pockets. Remember that hunk as we will meet him toward end of trip. So as always despite not so subtle tip pressure, that being my own fault I agree, I had , as always , tons of fun in Tawan. Returned to hotel and was waiting for N to show up for promised overnight. Shortly I could welcome him in front of hotel but in the room we discovered nasty surprise – no water in the washroom. Fortunately he had shower before arrived and I had at Tawan after massage . Big bottle in refrigerator was enough to refresh our teeth and we went to bed but activities for drought reason were somewhat restricted. Nobody’s fault and still nice exercise. Night guard promised things will be taken care in the morning and soothingly informed me that in case we need toilet , one by reception is fully functional

I stopped by with friend at 2:10 but there were already 11 customers inside reviewing the seven available guys on stage. Since it was a few hours after opening it’s very likely some masseurs were already engaged with customers (very possibly Oz among them). Did some quick math and opted to return on a weekday when the odds would be on my side. I believe today was a soft opening aimed at old customers because there hasn’t been much in the way of publicity. You can actually get a glimpse of guys on stage through plate glass windows near outside door.

Day 2 No rush in the morning, N wanted to stay longer but I was hungry so ordered shower and trip to Unesco for breakfast. Then packed my luggage and went to my next dig – Baan Silom in soi 3. That’s one of my most favorite places in Silom and almost no trip goes without me staying there. Nothing fancy but very comfortable and spacious rooms, full size refrigerator, friendly hosts and night guard, very close to bars yet soi 3 with exception of morning and afternoon rush hours is quiet street. 7/11 across the street, and lively market right around the corner. Room was available so I was able to check in right away and got the room I was sleeping in many times before. For last few trips I become fan of Jey Spa in Sukhumvit soi 43 . I like their selection and fast response time . Guy I wanted based on their Line feed, Ten was not available this week so I settled on Noom whom I saw in Dec 2001 in Sabaidee spa and for whom I got very good feedback from one of our members who was entertained by him few times. On my way there I went to Siam paragon just to stroll through as I can’t recall I was there in the past. I’m not mall person and in Bangkok neighborhood markets like soi 10 or soi 5 plus Silom stores is all I need. Arrived at Jey bit earlier and noticed they have discreet but visible sign now. It’s about 10 minutes walk from either Phrom Phnom or Thonglor BTS stations. Place is bit upscale , fitting it’s neighborhood and VIP rooms are like regular hotels rooms. Sure it cists but they have cheaper options too. 1.5 hr in VIP is 1250 for massage , when one books guy is informed what is his minimum tip rate for desired length of time. I was told 1800 for 1.5 hr. Noom is one of those who look better in flesh than on pics , much better. If not recommendation I’d probably miss him. He turned out great guy and it was very pleasant and rewarding 1.5 hrs . What a hunk, what a body ! I was almost tempted to have another session right away but start feeling sleepy so returned to hotel to collapse one the bed from 4.30 to 8.30. Those jet lags are killing me. Then to G’Bangkok in soi 4 for my dinner warmly welcomed by not only boss there but also both barkers from Banana across the soi. I have secret crush on one of them but I’m too shy to approach him but always promise myself I will do next trip. During dinner one of members Lined me asking what are my planes for tonight and I realized that I have none. It’s almost 10 pm and I don’t know where to go. What’s wrong with me ? I took easy way and went to Jupiter in the same soi. Wise decision. I entered just before first boy parade. Everybody was in briefs but without number. I was stunned. Probably first time in any bar I ever been in Thailand I liked every single one of them. Not even one I’d not take home. 100% approval rate, wow! And this comes from me , never being fan of Jupiter and it’s boys. While I like their look I find their lack of facial expression off putting although I know if’s just a management ordered pose because when boys are sitting with you or being offed they behave normally . In the past I never had much luck with them with exception of certain transplant from Tawan and my visits there were only for visual pleasure. I also don’t get logic of boys hidden in the corners and parading without numbers , how we are supposed to get them ? seems too much effort. But last two offs from there were very good so I started sniffing around tonight for an opportunity I watched a show , mid way was another parade, this time boys were in boxers but still without numbers. Some sported even trace of smile, o, la, la. Show quite interesting and entertaining and one can glimpse erect cock here and there for few precious seconds , thing unheard of before. After show third parade, this time bare chested guys in jeans but sporting numbers, sign that it’s time to get serious . Since one of guys noticing my interest smiled at me broadly during that walkabout I asked mamasan to bring him over. Came all in smiles and when asked about going with me accepted immediately so I did not even bother with drink but just paid off fee and off we went parading through soi holding hands at his insistence. Very embarrassing as I’m very shy guy , on Silom he changed to embrace me and that’s how we arrived in hotel, my heart pumping. Seemed great off again but in the room return to usual Jupiter scheme, sweet but hasty. Long time yes but 6000 so I declined an offer. So we had 40 minutes steamy, sweet but rush session. When he left I was both happy and disappointed as I could use his great company longer but no, not for 6000. Since I slept during day I did not feel sleepy at night and after he left I caught with Line and e-mails as well as forum , even surveyed Grindr and went to bed only at 3.30 am ending quite a nice day 2

few picks from trip to Nakhom Phatom : Bang Sue station from outside, line up to board train , train in platform, food offering aboard and Great Stupa from as seen from the station and up close

Twink? Construction worker? And you said “no”? What the fuck were you thinking? 😍

I was watching old Eddie Murphy interviews on YouTube, I think he's so funny to listen to. This is from a Letterman show in 1985...you can fast forward to the Eddie Murphy parts, stay watching because Eddie and Cavett are pretty hilarious also. Or just forward to 36 minutes and Cavett tells his Bangkok story, I guess most people were unaware of Thailand back then, but it seemed a little awkward because Dave had no clue, lol

Yes. My first two trips gave me only five nights in Thailand... the journey was not much short of twenty hours each way. It was tough. But that's work for you. I solved the problem by taking early retirement. The best decision I ever made.

We must have just missed each other. There was zero customers when I came but one when I left. I did see a group walking up the street as I was leaving. I don't know! I am beating myself up already. I didn't get that was the expectation. I did tip a bit above as it was Day 1 and I know there was a long dry spell.

What I like about Copa, besides their good service and young F/A's, lot of very good looking male F/A's, btw. You can buy basic economy and then "bid" for upgrades for money. I got 3 out of my last 4 legs to Brasil confirmed...and they have lie flat seats in Business to Brasil and EZE from Panama. Plus, if you get upgraded on the check in legs, you get 2-50lb luggage for free. Most Copa travelers are Central and S. American non frequent or budget travelers, many don't bother with the bidding or don't know about it because they buy from a Travel Agent.

Going back to the initial theme of this post, I have enjoyed many fantastic experiences with boys from Jupiter over the years and hope to meet one from my last holiday several times on my next escape. Your best bet if you want to engage with their boys is ignore where the mamasan tries to place you, head over to the opposite end to the entrance, so near LHS of the stage, get a seat there at the edge, which is where the boys chill between their appearances and much easier to engage and progress!

I remember back in early 2000's getting my butt rimmed in the toilets at the Holiday go go in sunee. After that I sat down in the Go Go area only to see the same boy kiss passionately a farang Irish expat . After kissing and tongue 👅 licking each other the boy disappears and Martin sees me and says hello, I immediately tell him how the boy licked my asshole ,he runs out of the bar and starts vomiting outside,🤮never forget it ! He hasn't spoke to me since 2005🖕

In Jomtien Complex, I would estimate 50% of the boys there are "gay", at least in the Western understanding of the word. I would say 65% enjoy sex with men, but that 15% are "men" (won't bottom, not a chance, ever). I would estimate 70% are looking for customers and 30% wish you were not there. Some actively despise farang. There are a couple of bars now that only really exist as party bars for the boys. Farang customers are tolerated but largely ignored. Your observations about boys sitting around drinking together is true. Many are not working boys, they have fulltime employment and are drinking with friends in their free time, even if their friend is a bar boy. Then you have the boys who make their money from sponsors, onlyfans, or on the apps in the day/early evening (that's where I get mine). They are out to have fun with their friends and already have money in their pocket for the day. Those are the ones who won't even look at you, however long you try to get their attention. If you want a blowjob, ask to use the short time room. Many bars have them. Shit, it happens often in the toilets at many complex bars. As for kissing, while it does happen and is accepted by many, most boys don't want their friends seeing them do "things" with foreigners. To be honest, I find it quite vile. Watching some 80 year old tourist slobbering over some 20 year olds boy face because he gets 40 baht from a boy drink.... don't get me started. Take it back to your room. What happens in someone's room is their business, so take it there. I hate to see when boys get uncomfortable because a tourist can't behave themselves in public and all their friends can see what's happening. Alternatively, you can go to a gogo bar. Different rules there!

INTRODUCTION That was nasty surprise. One evening I felt something between discomfort and light pain. By the morning it was something under my skin which was mildly painful and could be easily felt as it was size of , say 10 baht coin. In the following days it did not grew but mild pain, sometimes just discomfort persisted. Of course in such case we assume the worst and so did I, specially that survived that long without hospitals and treatments. Then there were some obstacles like my workload and my doctor on vacations. Anyways after 4 weeks of kind of terror, more mental than physical though, I got tested. It was Wednesday. On Thursday at precisely 2.14 p.m. phone rung. It was not marketer, it was my doctor. “ Don’t worry , it’s just a cyst and eventually it will be absorbed. Nothing to worry about “ . Thank you doctor, you saved my life again said I. Now, May is my traditional vacation month for two reasons, I’m tired with work and my wallet is packed. But this year for reasons not related to me nor Thailand May vacation were not in the cards. Doctor’s phone changed all that. I said he called at 2.14 p.m. By time I went to bed around 11.30 pm. I had already booked tickets to Bangkok for 6.30pm on Sunday and from there to Kuala Lumpur and back plus all hotels in Bangkok, KL and Pattaya. 72 hours and I was on the road. This was my reward I granted myself on account of good news. I loved it as my best vacations were always on the whim and not planned but with 72 hrs. I was even impressed with myself . Not particularly cheap, in fact my most expensive Thai trip ticket ever and not fast with 2 connections but who cares?. I got clean bill of health and on the road again. What else I may want ? When waked up Sunday morning , day of my departure I noticed very strange thing. Usually in such circumstances I should be dreaming about some naked hunk beside me with my hand on his thing but instead first thing which came to my mind was pizza at Madrid Tavern and schnitzel at Gbangkok. OMG I thought, is that it, am I losing it or what ? In January after Cambodian fiasco I was afraid I may turn lesbian but food lover? Me? It was my first flight through Middle East connection , namely Qatar. I had expectancies based on what I read on the forum and heard from others. I found airline agreeable, service was good although seemed bit disorganized. Food kind of so, so, but would be treat for salt lovers. In short not as great as some claimed and not bad at all. What I loved though was Doha airport and while initially I was not happy with 3 hrs layover , when there I was glad I had so much time for my disposal. Surprise in the airport – relatively few travelers in traditional ‘sheikh” white garb or veiled women. Landed in Bangkok very conveniently at 6.30 am almost no lines in immigration. I wisely decided to buy SIM card before picking my luggage and it popped out exactly in the moment I approached conveyor. So it was breeze. Checked rates at exchange booths and again wisely did not change money as XOne on Suriwong , it turned out, had bit better rate. ARL to BTS, change at Siam, short walk from Sala Daeng to soi 8 and my day 1 started Day 1 To be sure I will have an access to bed and shower I booked room at Nantra Silom for night before. Bit horror as they initially couldn’t find my reservation but finally they did. Not much changed from last time I was there pre-covid. Breakfast served no more and computers are gone from the lobby. Room was clean , A/C was working and so was shower. Safety deposit box did not but me , always naïve decided to take a chance and left is as is hoping for the best , as it turned out , rightly so. One thing was missing – not even one hanger. But with markets in soi 10 and soi 5 across Silom deficiency easily fixable. It was morning so next step was breakfast in world famous Unesco heritage Foodland Patpong where I was recognized by at least 3 waiters and greeted with smile, shortly boss himself was passing by and wai me as well. Welcome home vinapu thought I. Then round of area, I always like scenes and smells of morning market in Patpong 1, went to XOne to exchange money , Silom market to buy, you guessed rightly 5 hangers for 50 baht. ( no, I did not donate them to Nantra, took with me and only left in my last hotel ). Returning to hotel I saw short but very muscular guy in front of one of massage places in soi 6. He noticed my interest and run toward me trying to secure massage but I was sleepy despite this being only noon so promised to see him later . Lets call him N and we will hear about him often in this report. But now I collapsed on the bed exhausted by long trip and jet lag which is tormenting me more and more as I age. I did not sleep on the plane and to add , two ladies sitting in my row were yakking quite loudly for most of the flight. Returned to life around 3pm and yes , went to see N. It was very good decision as massage was excellent, it truly was. Not particularly cheap, 950 for the shop for 1.5 hr and N wanted 2000 for his troubles but I was happy, particularly that he came with idea of overnight with me before I even managed to opened my mouth. Well massaged , thus invigorated and feeling hungry marched toward Suriwong and in front of Tawan I saw Dum , boy I offed several times, sitting proudly on motorcycle. It turned out that during day he is motorsai driver , returning to bar duties at night. So asked him to give me ride to Madrid Tavern in Charoen Krung soi 49, paid him 60 baht. Business is business. Lady at Madrid not only recognized me immediately, right away asked : “Chang , no glass ?” and when I selected spinach and cheese pizza she expressed shock why not my usual shallots and cherry tomatoes so I was forced to change to my usual. Also asked about my friend whom she did not see for quite long meaning Christian PFC as we dined there many times on both old location and current. I promised to bring him in one day. Getting dark so time for bars, first go to HotMale beer bar where I met reader and after a while we decided to check on Banana club in soi 4 which I consider 2nd most friendly bar after Tawan and even Lucy is not able to change that. I called one of boys to sit with me loyally telling him I already have boy for the night but we had pleasant time and tipped him 500 just for fun of it. Lucy of course tried to leech some tip but I stood my ground although she was tempting me with showing her knee , go figure. Next step was Moonlight. A, the hunk I offed on my last nights in last two trips spotted me right away , came to shake hands and asked for drink which I gladly bought hoping to have nice time holding his massive forearm. But after sip or two he asked me to let him to greet some client so old idiot I agreed and he never returned that evening obviously having better time there . So my 400 were misspent so to speak. While I like him very much thank you I still considered it rude and taking me for granted. Leaving bar I not only knew who is sleeping with me tonight but I also knew who won’t for sure this trip. On my way home I peeked into Tawan but they were already emptying so promised to see them another night. N showed as promised at 1 and we had indeed good time so trip started well.

I was at the old Twilight one night and had not picked anyone. The mamasan was not happy. So, sure that he was unavailable, I pointed to a cute kitchen worker and said I like him. Minutes later he was at my side.

obviously thinking was not involved, lol

blessed are those whose flight time is only 2.5 hrs

I am not like you. I don't like to squeeze everything into a short holiday. I prefer 2 weeks or at the very least 10 days.

Day 4 In the morning still no water but basic desoiling by reception and breakfast at Foodland, where else? Upon return to hotel I was informed that they opened empty room on my floor and I can take shower there which I gladly did. In meantime they fixed what was broken and soon after I heard water coming. Then I went to XOne to buy some ringgit as tomorrow I’m heading to Kuala Lumpur then decided to try newly opened Coffee Grinder beside Tawan. Cute and enthusiastic waiters, boss himself present as well, we talked a bit and when I learned he reads forum I revealed my identity and posted my impression right away. I’m not big on coffee but they also serve very good tea and churros are yummy indeed. At 2 I was supposed to have massage with T, hero of my Dec 2021 trip at Sabaidee in soi Pluk Chit so went there. I arranged it directly with T over Line but he mixed things up. When I called him at 2.30 he professed he thought it was supposed to be tomorrow but promised to rush and indeed arrived around 3. Sabaidee moved few units further but boss told me move is temporary and when old premises will be renovated he is planning to move back. One of boys present was veteran of Soi Twlight and I recall him as top in XBoys fuck shows. Still in business after all those years but obviously taking good care of his well developed , muscular body. Massage was good but I was under impression T acquired some weight and our meeting somehow lacked spark we had before. I could be actually me, subconsciously unhappy with him being late. My original question when I enquired was “ are you working at the Sabaidee today” so no idea where tomorrow could came from. Then it was afternoon so I felt hungry and went to Madrid Tavern for my filling of pizza and Chang. I went by BTS s to Saphan Taksin , from where it’s no more than 10 minutes walk along busy and colorful Charoen Krung. Returned to Silom by bus and packed for tomorrow. I will be leaving most of my stuff in hotel as I’m returning there and prepared only what I deem necessary for just 3 days. It’s day 4 but I’m still jet lagged and at 6 pm collapsed on the bed for sound 5 hrs sleep waking up only at 10.55. Despite being that late I decided to give myself a chance and went to Hot Male go-go hoping well tested S will be available. He was indeed, told him to dress up and I watched second part of the show distributing few red notes here and there. S was hungry so we went to Foodland to feed him , I got some caramel custard and tea and then off we went home. Best and most enthusiastic off this trip so far. We met few times already so each of us knew what to expect and he was plain great.

Thanks for your enjoyable trip report. It was a pleasure to meet you for first time. You’re going home with many good memories that you were kind enough to share with us.

Overall not as sexciting as previous trips (nothing can beat the days of Soi Twilight) but this was a leisurely enjoyable holiday as I got to know some new people (the owners and staff of Coffee Grinder) and met several forum members. Next trip in December!

Off fee 500 baht is for weekdays. On Friday, Saturday and Sunday off fee is 600 baht. But yes, many of them are really nice guys.

I wish I could say that's the worst Pattaya bar story I've heard.... I distinctly remember a night a few years ago, I was in Winner Boy and had to resort to quite forcefully pushing a boy off me who had 10 kinds of cock breath. Always good to keep spare toothbrushes, mouthwash, and big bottles of shower toiletries at your condo!

Friday (Day 13) - Karaoke night with three Hotmale Beer Bar downstairs staff and fellow forum member. Found out that Happy Beer Garden has karaoke room at back. It charges 200 baht per hour. Manageress saw our group and knew that we would be ordering food and beer and she gave us a special rate of 500 baht for room for whole night. We didn't sing for the whole night but were there from 8pm to 1am which was 5 hours. Had to stop at 1am because some of the guys were half drunk. I think about 20 bottles of Lao beer consumed. Fellow forum member and I were pleasantly surprised by how much the guys love to sing. We found out that Myanmese and Laos music are so interesting. Most are slow and folksy in nature but there are some fast songs with guitar solos. There was one song about Pakse - which was a city in Laos and the hometown of one of the guys. There's even a gay Myanmar pop song! Fellow forum member and I saw the music video which had ladies dancing and a guy singing and we didn't know what's so gay about it but maybe it's in the lyrics, which we of course didn't understand. Overall a pleasant change from the typical night at bar.

I visited Soi 13 on Saturday 18:30, June 10. Someone wrote here that it's the best sauna in Asia. I'd say maybe it's the best sauna in the world (Brazilian garoto saunas excluded)! Two non sexual things striked me in the first few minutes. One, everything including the floor is so squeaky clean, everyone is barefooted (maybe footware is prohibited). Two, there are unlimited free light drinks. Lots of young eye candies; didn't notice any attitude. Although, as usual, many walking around stone-faced zombie-like, there's also talk to be seen and heard. I guess it's mostly because friends come together, but - for example - an old local striked up a not-hitting-on-u conversation with me in English at the hot water pool (it's not really a jaccuzi). Better atmosphere. The best feature was the dark room, darkest and most interactive I've ever been to. Can't see a thing, no matter how long I stayed there. At some point I was taken care of by 2 guys. Only after I tried to decipher with my hands who was doing what, I found out that I'm actually part of a fivesome... The dark 'room' is actually a corridor, with 5-6 very small wooden cubicles opening on it's right side. For some reason, two guys making out prefer to do it in the corridor, so most cubicles r empty. By 19:15 there was a jam, everyone stuck together with intense action. Only when I finally got to the end of the corridor for the third time (still erect), I found out that the last cubicle had no back side. It opened into a parallel corridor, which was just as dark and almost empty. I guess most patrons aren't aware of its existence. It's much more conducive to 'normal' dark action. I enjoyed myself immensly. Never had so many anonymous guys take care of me.

I wasn't sure whether I wanted to do a trip report initially. I posted my experiences in various bars the past week in individual existing topics but upon reflection, I have decided to combine them so here goes. My last trip was last December and now I am here for 2 weeks in holiday. Unfortunately, I am staying with family so I only had the first two nights available to bring guys back to hotel room. Sunday (Day 1) - Arrived at airport at night and only reached hotel at midnight. Thank goodness for Screwboys which is open till late. Guys were in basketball singlets and shorts. I would rather see them in their previously infamous white briefs with blue stripes. About 15 guys on stage with the rest seated with customers. Party atmosphere with some of the guys dancing to the loud music. Saw a smooth charming twink but I hesitated and he ended up being called over to two German customers who sat next to me. We had some small talk and toasted drinks but inside me, I was cursing myself for not being quicker. Show started at 12.45am. Lots of ladyboy performances. Only 2 big cock shows and these were not done by Screwboys guys but by freelancers. They came into the bar before their performances, paraded their cocks, earned their tips and quickly moved off. Show ended at 1.30am and lo and behold, German customers paid up and left. I had expected them to take the twink off. I asked him over to my seat and five minutes later, we were in my hotel room. From Laos. Hardworking fella. After our session, he went to his next job which is at a karaoke bar. He says he only gets back to his room at 7am. Maybe I will ask him to bring me to his karaoke bar one of these nights. Drinks at 350 baht and off fee 500 baht. I tipped mamasan 100 baht and paid Laos twink 2000 baht for short time session. Monday (Day 2) - Full house at Jupiter. Mostly Asian customers. Ladies were all seated in front aisle rows. The Jupiter dancers really loved performing for them. In terms of show items, same as last year. No difference. Why change a winning formula after all? I arrived at 10.15pm at door and told waiter that I would be ordering a bottle of whisky. He led me to a table next to sound system. Not a sofa table but at least a private space and a splendid view of the locker and gym area where the Jupiter guys hang out before they go on stage. I took a look at drinks menu and ordered one bottle of Johnnie Walker. Mamasan remembered me. "Poppy (the singer) no work tonight. He work Wednesday night." "You come alone? Where your friends?" Mamasan called over Cambodian handsome model whom I met last December nd whom I had also contacted in advance. He was in red briefs - tonight's attire for first model walk on stage for Jupiter guys. "I have to do model walk 1030. After that, I come to you." No problem, I have all night. 10.30pm - the first model walk started. Quite a number of Jupiter guys working today, easily at least 30. Most Mondays are quiet affairs. After the first model walk, the show started. Cambodian was with me, now fully dressed. We watched the show until 11.30pm after the second model walk where the Jupiter guys came out in white shorts only. One interesting thing happened. An Asian male and female couple in 30s had come in and they were seated at table next to me. I knew they were from China because they spoke to each other in Mandarin and they spoke to mamasan in English. They were looking for a guy for a threesome. Mamasan called over 8 Jupiter guys to the couple and the lady took some time to pick one tall fair skinned Jupiter guy. All this while, I was sniggering away. I looked at my guy and asked him if he had ever been in a 3some. Cambodian smiled shyly like a schoolboy and shook his head. He need not worry about me asking him for a 3some. I wanted him all to myself tonight. Still at least 2/3 of Johnnie Walker left. Shall go again another night this week and next week. Tuesday (Day 3) - I spent first half of evening at Hot Male beer bar downstairs. No lack of customers for the bars in Soi Gay Patpong. In fact many were casual tourists who went inside the bars for the shows. Hot Male beer bar downstairs remains best spot for people watching as they walk up and down the soi. And of course it's a great spot to perv at the shirtless Dreamboys guys on the balcony. Hot Male beer bar staff are as friendly and chatty as ever. Freshboys 10.30pm show was well attended - a group of farang tourists comprising one guy and three ladies, a gay Taiwan couple, a big spender with bottle service and two Freshboys guys (who have changed out of Freshboys white shorts) and a mamasan around him and an eclectic Asian group in their 40s/50s (5 men, 3 women). The lead guy was seated with the women and dispensing tips to performers on stage. The other men called down a Freshboys guy to sit with them. Later before second show, two farang ladies came in, with one of them using crutches as her leg was in a cast. She must have heard many good things about the show because she was willing to climb up the narrow stairs to the bar! As for Freshboys guys, mostly twinks and some twunks. Many familiar faces from last year. Mamasans and waiters also same, including one lanky handsome waiter with a number tag. Show was same as well. Mix of ladyboy lip synching, shower show and big cock show (4 of them). Drinks at 400 baht. Wednesday (Day 4) - I met some fellow forum members for dinner at G Bangkok. We had a great time chatting about our recent experiences. At the same time, we were ogling a hunky Banana Bar guy standing outside his bar with an umbrella (it was raining for a while). After dinner, we went to Jupiter. Longtime singer Poppy is back singing. He wasn't there on Monday and in fact, he doesn't sing every night at Jupiter nowadays. Only certain nights. I had reserved a sofa seat at the back for our entourage. Quiet night. Only 14 guys working tonight - fellow forum member actually meticulously counted them! In terms of customers, only half full compared to Monday night. Many ladies. There was in fact one group of ladies on 2nd floor looking down like fangirls and they remained there until the show ended. VIP table near the stairs was reserved for 2 very well dressed ladies. Midway during the show, they asked mamasan to arrange some guys to stand in a semicircle for them to choose. First time customers would only be able to choose them during the 3rd model walk when they finally wear number tags on their jeans. During the 1st and 2nd model walks, they were in briefs and shorts but no number tags so it was quite difficult to call them down to your seat unless you have mamasan next to you and you inform him. Cambodian handsome hunk whom I took back on Monday night was not working today. But I spotted a Laos guy who worked at Banana last December and whom I met. So surprised that he's working at Jupiter now. Happy that he haf cimbed the gogobar ladder. I wanted to get reacquainted with him. Unfortunately, another customer had arranged to off him in advance. I told mamasan that we would not be offing any guy tonight but I asked mamasan if it was possible to send over some guys to our table who could drink and he helpfully found some from those who had not been offed. We played card games where the loser had to drink half a shot of whisky. Some guys barely lasted a few shots while some guys could really drink and lasted all the way till we eventually ended at half past midnight. Thursday (Day 5) - Visited Dreamboys and out of 30 guys on stage, I would take half of them. Yes, many are old timers but they are keeping themselves in shape. Music was not that loud. I found music at Jupiter to be louder. 10.30pm show is more or less the same but opening coyote dancing is not done by professionals anymore. It's now in-house with 11 of the Dreamboys guys on stage dancing. Unfortunately, most can't dance. Kudos for effort. Rest of show was entertaining enough. Quick transition between performances. Just the right balance of drag queen diva lip synching and other performances including two big cock shows with sucking. There was a Magic Mike style dance where two hunks in police uniforms danced and e eventually stripped down. That was the highlight for me and it was comparable in standard to Jupiter and Moonlight. Macho guy in high heels dancing was there as well. Many customers and had to squeeze. Main difference is no ladies in crowd unlike Jupiter which had many lady customers. I have visited 3 out of 4 bars on Soi Patpong. Left Hotmale to visit on another night.

Day 5 We both set our phone alarms for 6 am. After shower I left luggage downstarirs , took whatever I’m taking with me and we marched to Foodland for breakfast greeted by knowing smiles, ahem. Then S went home and I took BTS and MRT to bang Sue and from there red electric train to Don Muang. Easy check in and after 135 minutes flight I landed in Kuala Lumpur. We are in 21 century so first thing to do was to buy Malaysian SIM card, immigration was breeze and on my way to the train I Lined my local friend I’m already there and he told me where and when we will meet. Airport is quite a distance from city and train costs 55 RM which is about 400 baht but is impressive , modern and very fast. In ½ hr. I was at Central station called KL Sentral , visited friendly tourist office to get free map and direction how to get to monorail station as my hotel, Furama Bukit was near Imbi station. Great location , very close to tourist area of Bukit Bintang , 5 minutes to Imbi station and adjacent to KL newest mall built on the site of former prison of which gate is still standing. Kuala Lumpur is very modern city , very impressive but not walker friendly as it’s bisected by numerous highways and multilane streets. Fortunately public transit is fast and efficient although it takes time to get acquainted with as is provided by no less then 4 different operators, situation similar to Bangkok. Ticket price also depends of distance. After settling in my room on 17th floor I went to meet my friend. We had lunch in the mall , went to the roof where it was some sort of fair and then we made grand tour of Bukit Bintang district , tourist central of KL. There’s street with zillion of restaurants crossing one with several massage shops and where I spotted quite a few handsome masseurs . There were even ladies of the night plying their trade quite openly and one offered me her services not once but twice as we passed by her two times.. Malaysia is on different time zone then Thailand, 1 hr. ahead and is getting dark only at 7 p.m. Soon after dark I decided to go back to hotel as early rising this morning started being felt so we parted ways with my friend agreeing to meet again tomorrow.

Oops! Forgot to post the video! InShot_20230618_161415879.mp4

Signs of age..... Like me with waiters and kitchen staff..... remember one time we went to a Churrascaria in SP near your hotel. I had so much fun that night when the waiters said the cook was gay, as well as one of the waiters and I went into the kitchen to "interview" all the cooks....I guess our table gave off the Gay Vibe that evening. I can probably come up with some pictures if I look hard enough 😆

American gave me the best prices and... I was going to write "convenient times." Fuck them. I will look at Copa for my next trips.

hope all those members who swear never go to Tawan because they don't like big guys read your report and try something they never did, twinks of Tawan Have a safe trip home. it was fun to meet you there for dinner at G's and drinking with boys at Jupiter. Thank you for your time and reports, till next time !

I am, bottle of gin

As Vinapu rightly says they are normally defiantly "off able", just engage in conversation, by him a drink and if positive vibes ask and agree what you want, they will advise the "off fee" probably circa 500 THB, I find it more real and fun than the normal mega commercial looking at boys on a stage and using the mamasan! . I met Pey several times on my last visit in March and hope to spend time with him again on my next return early November, really nice genuine guy!

The view from the Oriental terrace over the river, drink in hand, was great. Bit of overbuilding now but still great in my humble view, as you have all the river view. Also open air Moon Bar/Vertigo on top of Banyan Tree, 60 floors up. Not for one who doesn't like heights! And you can eat up there as well

Wouldn't that have been Roy Cohn?

now we know why he died prematurely, excess drinking and sucking

You over did it, there's no place easier to find. Arrive at Bearing, take exit 3 - one on your left in direction of train you just arrived by. Go down. On the street level stop, on your right you will have street, on your left you will see Apollo. Whole 6 meters from where you are standing. make sure to report your findings please. I passed by on my last day in Bkk when taking tour of new monorail but did not have time to go in although sign was already showing OPEN at about 1.20 pm

I'm not a big kisser, but had a Thai bf in the US for a bit and he explained that Thai's typically like to hom kiss, sniff kiss around the ears or cheeks. I've gotten a lot of mileage with that knowledge over the years with the guys in Thailand..... http://www.thai-language.com/id/202903

You still missed the point. "Let you kiss him" ??? No. If he's motivated to leave the bar with you, he will kiss you first. If you force a kiss he doesn't want, you are likely to waste your money later. If he's motivated to leave the bar, he will be smiling and looking at you from the minute you arrive. That's the boy you want!

Excellent post ! Very well said !!! 👍👍

what kind of vacation it is when one needs to be cautious ?

You know that you can have full sex sessions in saunas, right?

Friday (Day 6) - Dinner at G Bangkok with fellow forum member followed by visit to Banana Bar. Surprise find at show - a Russian aerial dancer! (I Googled the term because I know I can't call him a pole dancer!) He did acrobatics using a long rope suspended from ceiling. And he had a fit body to ogle at! Very entertaining and it was another innovative way to bring in the tourist crowds. There was also one solo dance number where the professional dancer danced to K-Pop music, which is the latest in-thing. I could see the logic of including such performances to draw in tourist crowd. When a group of tourists (and they are mostly ladies) come into a bar, that's 4 to 5 drinks straightaway. The rest of the show consisted of ladyboy diva lip synching, some dancing and shower and big cock show. I saw a Laos guy I knew and asked him to sit with me during the show. Bought him a drink (300 baht) and also tipped him afterwards. If only I could take him back to hotel room, I would have done so! After leaving Banana, fellow forum member and I went to Foodland Patpong where we met his regular (and very handsome) guy. Reminded me of my ex-boyfriend who has gone back to Vietnam permanently. Overall an enjoyable night. Drinks at Banana are 380 baht.

Please do some more blogs and even vlogs if you can,I miss your stuff

Anyway, it was such a cute sight!

Mine did not drink , he made me to gulp his half shots

Since I was one of those fellow members big thank you to jason1975 for arranging fun evening at Jupiter. I too find appearance of number tags only during last final walksbout when most customers already left weird business practice. But boys were handsome as always and fun when seated with our trio. I start developing hots for one of their most hideously tattooed guy, snakes and all, and tipped him 100 for starters on my way upstairs ( nice name for toilet). At least he smiled at me, he,he.

Wednesday night at Jupiter and longtime singer Poppy is back singing. He doesn't sing every night at Jupiter nowadays. Only certain nights. I was at Jupiter with some fellow members after dinner together. We got a sofa seat at the back. Quiet night. Only 14 guys working tonight - fellow member actually meticulously counted them! In terms of customers, only half full compared to Monday night. Many ladies. There was in fact one group of ladies on 2nd floor looking down like fangirls and they remained there until the show ended. VIP table near the stairs was reserved for 2 very well dressed ladies. Midway during the show, they asked mamasan to arrange some guys to stand in a semicircle for them to choose. Poor ordinary male customers would only be able to choose them during the 3rd model walk when they finally wear number tags on their jeans. During the 1st and 2nd model walks, they were in briefs and shorts but no number tags so it was quite difficult to call them down to your seat unless you have mamasan next to you and you tell him. Cambodian handsome hunk whom I took back on Monday was not working today. But I spotted a Laos guy who worked at Banana last December and whom I met. So surprised that he's working at Jupiter now. Happy that he climbed the ladder. I wanted to get reacquainted with him. Unfortunately, another customer had arranged to off him in advance. I told mamasan that we would not be offing any guy tonight but I asked mamasan if it was possible to send over some guys to our table who could drink and he helpfully found some from those who had not been offed. We played card game where the loser had to drink half a shot of whisky. Some guys barely lasted a few shots while some guys could really drink and lasted all the way till we eventually ended at half past midnight.