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Monday (Day 9) - At famous forum member's suggestion/insistence, I visited Tawan. Before that, I met another fellow forum member who had just arrived in Bangkok. We had dinner, walked up and down Soi 4, said hi to Hotmale beer bar downstairs staff and ended up at Tawan for 10.30pm show which started at 10.45pm. About 20 customers including an Asian lady with her two Asian male friends. She was squeamish when the Tawan guys with big cocks went around customers for tips. But other customers were old timers, including owners of Coffee Grndr who were there showing a friend around. About 25 Tawan guys and it was a cramped affair because they are all so big sized and take up space! Two Tawan guys were actually playing chess on one of their phones. They finished their game when more customers came in for the show. I would not mind offing one of them just to play chess! Show started with 3 ladyboy diva lip synching performances then it was all Tawan guys all the way - big cocks, fuck show, SM show (curtain at stage opens up to reveal a wall showing SM tools and equipment!). Finale was 2 Tawan guys jerking off while a bucket was being passed around for tips. First Tawan guy to cum (and he really let out a spray!) took the bucket of tips. Runner up couldn't cum in the end but he still got some tips. Tawan guys remembered fellow forum member and me from jockstrap night last year. I got to know two of them better. One is half African and half Thai and speaks in a low sexy American accent while the other has a Tiktok account showing his gym routine! Both are classic bodybuilder types and my fellow forum member's favourite. 4 twinks by Tawan standard but I would describe them as average next door types going by the standard of other gogo bars. Fellow forum member knew that I had been eyeing twink with glasses and he asked twink to sit and keep me company for the rest of the night. Entry to Tawan is 500 baht payable at entrance. Drinks for guys is 400 baht.7 points
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‘Why do so many farang customers these days have bald heads?’
reader and 3 others reacted to floridarob for a topic
They don't know about Rogaine and Propecia ?? It's the beard trend that I'm tired of, even young guys with beards make me crazy....trimmed ones are ok, But I'm talking lumberjack full beards.....Not Asian guys though, lol4 points -
From Nikkei Asia APORNRATH PHOONPHONGPHIPHAT, Nikkei staff writer BANGKOK -- Thailand's tourism sector is taking LGBT travelers more seriously, hoping their spending on events and medical treatments gives the country a post-COVID economic jolt. The Thai economy grew 2.7% in the first quarter of 2023 from a year earlier, and the central bank expects it to expand 3.6% for the whole year. Authorities say the tourism sector, which accounted for about 20% of the economy before the pandemic, will play an essential role. LGBT tourists spend an estimated $200 billion worldwide a year, according to research conducted by Out Now Consulting, an agency that provides gay marketing services to big companies. This prospective gold mine has encouraged the Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT) to hone its LGBT marketing strategy, which includes holding roadshows targeting LGBT communities in Europe, Asia and the U.S. Thailand has long been a destination for LGBT tourists, but it is only recently that the tourism authority started promotions targeting LGBT groups. This year, the tourism authority is sponsoring Pride events in more areas, such as Phuket and Pattaya, in addition to Bangkok. Thailand is celebrating Pride Month throughout June with parades, concerts and other LGBT events, with thousands of people from around the world taking part in a Bangkok Pride parade on June 4. The foreign tourists did not come just for the parade. According to TAT research, many were long-haul travelers who often spend days at destinations holding events they want to attend. “The TAT has realized the importance of [LGBT] groups and will continue to do research to serve their demand," a TAT official said. Thailand has long attracted wealthy medical tourists due to its high medical standards and competitive prices. Now the country's medical sector is working to attract LGBT medical tourists from Asia and elsewhere. “The TAT has realized the importance of [LGBT] groups and will continue to do research to serve their demand," a TAT official said. Thailand has long attracted wealthy medical tourists due to its high medical standards and competitive prices. Now the country's medical sector is working to attract LGBT medical tourists from Asia and elsewhere. Earlier this year, the Ministry of Commerce held a business-matching event in Bangkok so Thai producers of boys love content could meet and talk with importers from Japan, South Korea and China. The fair generated 158 business partnerships that are expected to lead to more than 3.6 billion baht in exports of LGBT-themed content, according to Ratchada Thanadirek, a deputy spokeswoman for the government. Continues at https://asia.nikkei.com/Economy/Open-minded-Thailand-banks-on-LGBT-tourists-boys-love-exports24 points
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And did @vinapu snatch the King or the Queen 😵4 points
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Would you ,have you paid more than 4k?
floridarob and 2 others reacted to Boy69 for a topic
African citizens working in Thailand are asking more than the Thai or neighborhood countries boys couple years I negotiate a rate of with African hunk 23 y.o. to 1500 in BKK first he didn't agree but after I replied take it or leave it he agreed maybe because it was early noon and anyway he didn't have any clients so early I don't know. the next day he suggested to come again on the same rate and I gladly agreed because he was very good in bed and nice person , At Pattaya young African twink 19 y.o. immediately accepted suggestion of 1000 bht plus 100 for transportation. Both were from Madagascar. I guess had a luck with both of them because I know usually African rates are higher but me personally won't pay more than what I paid so it's up to them to accept of not.3 points -
From Thai PBS World Despite the fact that it is now the rainy season in Thailand, no rain is forecast for most of July, returning in August. The Royal Irrigation Department has instructed its officials to adjust their water management plans to ensure optimum use of water and to maintain as much as possible in the reservoirs. According to Thaweesak Thanadachopol, deputy director-general of the Royal Irrigation Department, the total volume of water in Thailand’s four main reservoirs, namely behind the Bhumibol, Pasak Jolasid, Sirikit and Kwae Noi Bumrung Dan dams, is at 45% of full capacity, or 11.301 billion cubic metres, with only 15% at Pasak Jolasid. Reservoirs, both large and medium-sized, across the country now hold a combined total of 39.869 billion cubic metres of water or an average of 52% of their capacities. The Meteorological Department forecasts that, until Sunday, the south-western monsoon will weaken and this will lead to less rain in northern Thailand, with isolated heavy rainfall in southern provinces. Although the water in Pasak Jolasid reservoir will be enough for consumption and protection of the ecological system, there won’t be enough for agriculture and farmers have been told to rely on rain for rice cultivation. Sermchai Khiewsirithavorn, director of Regional Irrigation Office 10, said he is, however, optimistic that there will be enough rain by November to fill Pasak Jolasid reservoir, which will be sufficient until the next dry season, citing forecasts from the Meteorological Department.3 points
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Was asked that only once by an especially cute guy on Soi Tarntawan years ago. Still regret not trying to negotiate a better price but passed on opportunity. Can still see his face and remember exactly where he was standing.3 points
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No. I spoke to the bottom who performs in the fuck show at xboys in Pattaya. He was sitting outside having a cigarette at the time. I asked him how on earth he was able to take such a huge cock and he said "poppers."3 points
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I didn't go for massage. I went for show last night. Interesting show especially the SM aspect.2 points
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First-of-its-kind erectile dysfunction gel gets FDA’s OK for over-the-counter marketing, company says | CNN2 points
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Best GoGo Bar
jamiebee and one other reacted to macaroni21 for a topic
I have had similar thoughts though 'terrified' might not be the word I would use. I once chatted with and liked a guy in Tawan, but I remember, quite vividly, hesitating over the off when he told me he had been bulking up in the weeks before, but it was hard work etc etc, and he "only" weighed 98 kilos. And then I pictured a scene of 98 kilos on top of me and I couldn't breathe. But my (admittedly not too numerous) experiences with Tawan boys have been good. They're easy going and even a bit docile in the room. I made 98 kilos promise not to lie atop me. He kept his promise. Macaroni is still alive, and here to tell.2 points -
Best GoGo Bar
Blackbeluga and one other reacted to jason1975 for a topic
Having been in Bangkok for one week, I have visited all bars except Tawan. I am terrified of Tawan because I am small sized and afraid of being crushed by huge Tawan guys! I agree that ranking the bars is difficult because everyone has personal preference so maybe it helps to state one's preference first. For me, I like twinks and twunks. If hunks, not too big please. I like handsome faces as well. Tattoos are OK but not too many please. And lastly, I don't have budget for models who ask for 5000 baht short time. Hence, my list of bars to off a guy in Bangkok: 1) Screwboys 2) Hot Male / Banana / Freshboys 3) Jupiter / Moonlight / Dreamboys But when it comes to watching a show and just having a good time, this is my list: 1) Jupiter / Moonlight / Banana 2) Dreamboys / Hot Male / Freshboys 3) Screwboys2 points -
Sunday ( Day 8 ) - Moonlight was choice of venue to visit. 450 baht entry for one drink. Payment at entrance. I paid with a 1000-baht note and the staff returned 550 baht in the form of prepared neatly folded 50 baht and 100 baht notes. Very clever and thoughtful way for customer to be ready with 100 baht notes to give tips inside the bar. About 30 customers for 10.30pm show. Group of 6 Koreans had a bottle of whisky to share drinks among themselves. Front row had two pairs consisting of farang customers and their Asian guys (from other bars) and also one pair of Asian customers in 50s whom I saw at Hotmale the previous night. At back seats, there was one pair of European male customers and 3 separate small groups of Chinese/Taiwanese customers (about 3 or 4 each) all with individual drinks. Only one other single punter like me - Asian in 60s and seated near me at back. All were here for show and no one invited any guy down from stage for drinks despite mamasans encouragement to cajole us. About 25 guys in black topless Moonlight T-shirt and black sweat pants on rotation on stage. Red number tags on their pants. Some are really handsome, most are next-door-types who have been dolled up. Not as model-looking as Jupiter but also not as rough as Hotmale and not as old as Dreamboys. I noticed one tall guy previously from Jupiter. Show started late at 10.45pm. Only 3 Moonlight models performing tonight- Tam, Nut and Mark. Tam had an impressive James Bond performance involving green lasers. Nut and Mark did towel number and there was slight glimpse of their pubes at finale. Nut and Mark also did matador and bull erotic dance. A lipsynching diva ladyboy also performed, alternating with the models. During model presentation after show, Jack and Jar came down with Tam, Nut and Mark. And there was a 6th model - a farang with distinctive tattoos on the entire left side of his body but no tattoo on right side. Muscular body and defined abs. His name was Mr Ryan. Awkward moment when the emcee asked whether anyone wanted to give 1000 baht garlands. Two mamasans went around holding garlands to ask customers. Unresponsive crowd. Finally one Chinese customer passed a mamasan six 100-baht notes to give to each model on stage. Models did get their tips eventually at last performance - the Boom Shake number where they danced close to customers. Customers freely gave out 100 baht and even 200 baht tips to models when they were up close to them. I think they preferred to pass them the money themselves. However, only 4 models appeared and did the dance - Tam, Nut, Mark and Jar (even though he seemed self-conscious of his dancing). Jack didn't dance and neither did guest model Mr Ryan so no tips for them. Show ended at 11.45pm. One hour as advertised. Two singers (one male and one female) started singing and the non-model Moonlight guys stood behind them and smiling to customers. I like this format compared to making them just stand and move in rotation like in other gogo bars. Close to midnight, a group of 3 male and 3 lady young Asian customers came in. They were here to drink only and listen to singers. They ordered bottles of wine and invited two Moonlight guys to drink with them. They left after half an hour and most of the customers had gone by then. I was second last to leave and only a group of 3 Asian customers was left at 12.30am.2 points
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From The Nation Intouch Holdings Plc on Monday ordered its subsidiary iTV Plc to investigate why the minutes from its latest shareholding meeting appear to contradict an audio recording of the meeting itself. The minutes have been cited in a case that could see Move Forward Party’s leader and PM candidate Pita Limjaroenrat banned from taking office. The move by Intouch, which it reported to the Stock Exchange of Thailand on Monday, comes amid suspicion aired by Pita, his supporters and others that the share saga was concocted to prevent him from becoming the next prime minister. The minutes were cited by political activist Ruangkrai Leekitwattana in his complaint to the Election Commission Office on May 9. Ruangrai alleged that Pita was unqualified to contest the election because he held 42,000 shares in media firm iTV. The Constitution bars candidates from running for office if they hold media shares. The minutes of the April 26 shareholders’ meeting record that Kim Siritaweechai, CEO of Intouch and president of iTV, was asked by shareholder Phanuwat Kwanyuen whether iTV was still operating as a media business. The minutes record that Kim confirmed it was still active in media. However, in an audio clip released by former iTV reporter Thapanee Iadsrichai, who now works for 3 Dimension News, Kim can be heard replying that iTV no longer operates in the media business. Pita posted on Facebook last week that iTV had not operated as a media firm since March 7, 2007 when its TV concession was terminated by the PM’s Office’s Secretariat. Pita noted that the shareholder raised the question of iTV’s media operations just a few days before he applied to run as Move Forward’s party-list and PM candidate, suggesting he knew the reply or minutes would be used somehow later. In its report to the SET, Intouch said it had ordered iTV’s management to conduct an urgent investigation as the minutes had drawn public attention. It said it would inform the SET of the investigation’s findings for the sake of transparency and good governance. Continues at https://www.nationthailand.com/thailand/politics/400284681 point
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I was just on Grinder in my own country,have the full subscription so logged into Bangkok area ready for my upcoming trip I saw a African guy so messaged him for a price . (Bangkok) He replied 4,000 baht for 1 hour ! Now that's a lot actually western price . The only time I have ever paid that and more was in Cambodia for a straight guy . Have you or do you pay over this amount and for what reason. Obviously in Pattaya where im a regular visitor 1000 B is the norm But....ok it's a African guy I know1 point
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Would you ,have you paid more than 4k?
Boy69 reacted to floridarob for a topic
I've seen Brasilians in BKK asking for a lot... I've been with a few African guys in Thailand over the years and paid whatever the going rate was...1000 in Pattaya and 1200-1500 in BKK.1 point -
i suppose this could have just as well been posted in the current running thread on ageing and changing desires. From Pattaya Mail By Barry Kenyon The Jomtien pride carnival last weekend displayed the resort’s sexual diversity in all its splendor, not to say feathers. Hundreds of mainly young Thais thronged the beach road on Saturday afternoon for three hours, narrowly missing the earlier rains. Assembled were soberly dressed enthusiasts, drag queens, amateur cabaret stars, staff from bars and massage parlors, often wearing home-made glitzy costumes that left little to the imagination. Foreigners mostly kept away from the floats, although a few waved a rainbow flag or cheered from the sidelines. Political input, as usual, was low key. There were signs and posters embracing sexual diversity, promoting marriage equality and an end to traditional gender norms. The only complaint came from a cross-dressing star who said the high wind was making it difficult to hold her placard aloft. The semi-radical Move Forward party, which swept the Pattaya area in the recent general election, has promised early legislation to introduce single-sex marriages but the demonstrators avoided promoting politics or the popular MF leader Pita Limjaroenrat. Unlike Bangkok, controversy is not usually the Pattaya style. Saturday evening (sponsored by SWING) was devoted to parties, cabarets and special social events in Jomtien Complex: a street of bars, massage options and restaurants which is the hub of fun city’s gay nightlife alongside competitor Boyztown in central Pattaya. Post-event social media were swamped by thousands of camp photos and happy comments, mostly placed by Thais in their own language. The pride event’s main achievement was doubtless to encourage group solidarity, although it also proved to the general public (as if they didn’t know) that sexual diversity is an indispensable element of this seaside tourist resort, based on large international arrivals. A few farang internet warriors recorded their warm support, but most remained silent. A handful of skeptics took to Facebook to describe parade participants as mental patients on the loose, or to comment it was no wonder that Thailand was becoming a super-aged society. The English press, which revelled weekly in Pattaya sex tales 20 years ago, appears mostly to have ignored the event. The newspapers over there have lost interest in Pattaya unless there’s a foreign pedophile arrest or a Brit has been injured in an accident and can’t pay the bill. None the less, one popular daily did publish short story of a real woman who was selected as a cabaret show girl in a gay club. That’s entertainment. By Monday morning, life was back to normal, or as normal as it gets in Pattaya. A few rainbow flags still hung from lampposts and a huge public TV screen near Jomtien Complex still carried the warm congratulations of City Hall and hopes for an equal future. But the caution is that the pink pound has always been a huge cash market in international Pattaya. As resort Pattaya changes in so many directions, whilst the number of Brit/European, American and Australian visitors and retiree expats declines relative to size, the question is how much longer the traditional gay scene catering for single men can survive. As the former cabaret star Eggz Benedict asked, “Why do so many farang customers these days have bald heads?”1 point
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Nude Dancers in Bogota and Medellin
AsianExplorer reacted to macdaddi for a topic
Strippers are generally not the main theme in Colombian clubs. Places like Gigolo House and Garage (both Bogotá) are stripper bars where the boys will do a single dance at the end of their stage obligation fully erect. Most then walk the audience offering up a feel for tips. Not sure if that fits the bill for what you want. Many clubs and saunas in the larger cities will bring in a feature stripper to do a 20 -30 minute show during an event. Again, depending on the space, these shows can be completely vanilla or full audience interaction up to penetration -- just depends on the venue and what the stripper has actually been hired to do. So I would suggest just asking around at any of the local gay bars you hit up. Colombia has a LOT of private gay events that feature entertainment far wilder than what you find in the local bars. If you are up to it, you can apply to be a member of Angels Naked Party which runs a number of different events in Bogtotá y Medellín. Good luck with your search.1 point -
Would you ,have you paid more than 4k?
KeepItReal reacted to fedssocr for a topic
what Western country are you in where 4000 baht is the going rate? Here in the US it's more like 7000-10000 depending on your location but most big cities are in that range. If you factor in drinks, off fee and paying the boy isn't 4000 around the price in Bangkok? I did pay quite a bit at Zoo Spa for the super package that included massage, etc.1 point -
My concern was that putting the entire article under one thread would just make it far too long for the average reader. By listing the Part numbers, I think it becomes clear that it is a series of posts and readers can dip in and out if they wish. With few posts under this section of the Board, I am not concerned about readers losing the plot, as it were! Please also remember Leslie's first major international movie Farewell My Concubine which won the Palme d'Or at the 1993 Cannes Film Festival. In 2005 TIME magazine listed it as one of the Best Movies of All Time. Leslie is marvellous and the tragic ending often brings tears. Happy Together is a totally different type of movie. Two lovers travel to the Iguazu Falls in Argentina (only because in their tiny Hong Kong apartment they had a lampshade with a picture of the Falls) in an attempt to save their relationship. It is dramatic, gritty, violent and frequently moving. It was nominated for the Palme d'Or and its director Wong Kai-wai won Best Director at the 1997 Cannes Festival. Leslie's death was a complete tragedy. On the surface he had it all. A superb actor and singer, he once played 33 concerts on consecutive nights in the 10,000 seat Hong Kong Coliseum. Jean-Paul Gaultier designed some of the costumes for his last ever mega-concert series. It was at these concerts that he announced he was gay and had a long term partner. That relationship was by all accounts very important to him. What hardly anyone knew was that he suffered from and was being treated for severe depression. That one with so much talent and so many gifts should elect to take his own life shocked much of the world. In a 2010 CNN poll Leslie was voted the Third Most Iconic Musician of all Time after Michael Jackson and The Beatles. In a short suicide note he thanked his family, his lover and his psychiatrist. He added, “I can’t stand it anymore . . . In my life I have done nothing bad. Why does it have to be like this?” Had he lived he would be 66 this year. On a tangent, some time ago I found this photo on the internet. Can you imagine three cuter young Hong Kong guys? Actors Danny Chan, Leslie Cheung and Paul Chung in the 1981 Hong Kong movie On Trial. Danny and Leslie were closet gays at the time. All died tragically young. Danny of a drug overdose aged 35. Paul like Leslie committed suicide aged 30.1 point
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VISA RUN
barcelona92 reacted to hojacat for a topic
There are plenty of options where to spend one week near Thailand. It all depends what are you looking for (more boys or giving yourself a break) , how much you want to spend, if you like city or nature, etc. HCMC has a large selection of guys and gay venues (there is this gay sauna that supposed to be really good), the food is great and it's a pretty affordable, definitely cheaper than BKK.1 point -
Reflections on Ageing and Changing Desires
Olddaddy reacted to Travellerdave for a topic
I am mostly bottom these days, although for 15 years of visiting gay Pattaya I was 95% a top. being now of more of an advanced age I really only participate in sex during my regular boy orientated trips to Pty. This means that for the first encounters with top boys the problem is the pain when being penetrated, particularly by large cocks. Later after being stretched a few times the discomfort is not there to the same extent. Poppers are very useful before then during the “conditioning period”. I sniff before and whilst being ridden, ceasing only when the boy has cum. The mind wanders and I loose focus on the discomfort.1 point -
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Twinks in Pattaya
Boy69 reacted to gayinpattaya for a topic
The building that is Jewel Bar sold for 12 or 18 million, I can't recall. The new laundry building next to the Agate I am 80% sure it was 12 million. Testing my memory there. Not all shophouses are privately owned. The closed JQK Bar is owned by the complex, and a few others. It's a mix match of private and complex ownership. Suffice to say the rent is much lower on the privately owned ones. The bars that open and close every year or so, are almost exclusively complex owned. There is no way to make money on the 70k+ a month rent.1 point -
Have you gave religion away being gay?
Londoner reacted to GaveModeva for a topic
Hey there! It's interesting to hear about your situation with your Filipino boyfriend and his desire to attend a gay-friendly church. I get where you're coming from regarding your skepticism about religion. It can be a tricky topic, especially when it comes to acceptance and the LGBTQ+ community. It's cool that some churches are becoming more inclusive.1 point -
Reflections on Ageing and Changing Desires
PeterRS reacted to abidismaili for a topic
I wasn’t talking about me. The other guy to which I replied wrote that he noticed most men transition from top to bottom when they get older. My reply is: yes because when you get older it’s harder to become hard on command. This is not a statement about me. And indeed I am still working. My retirement is far away.1 point -
Reflections on Ageing and Changing Desires
ChristianPFC reacted to a-447 for a topic
After being a top all my life I decided to become a bottom about a decade ago. I did so not because I couldn't get it up, but because I had always thought I had been missing out on something - afterall, the guys I was fucking were obviously enjoying the experience. I wanted to know why. I found the whole idea a little daunting, but took the advice of a friend on one of the forums and practised every day with a dildo, starting with a small one and then gradually increasing the size. I had my first experience as a bottom in a sauna in Japan. I found the sensation weird, but in a good way. On a subsequent trip to Thailand I find myself completely liberated when dealing with the guys. No more worrying if the guy would bottom for me - if he wouldn't, then I would. The will he/won't he dilemma disappeared and I could choose any guy I liked the look of. I then took my ass up to Chiang Mai to test it out with the hung hunks at Adams Apple. It passed with flying colours - I was able to "accommodate" some very large appendages. Now, if I'm going to bottom, I want a big cock to service me. And of course, the more I bottomed the easier it was to take a cock without any pain. But if I go without bottoming for any significant period of time, it can be a little painful for the first few times until I get back into it. (Actually, until he gets back into it!) Back in April I had to take myself to hospital in Bangkok and see a urologist, who diagnosed me with an enlarged prostate. He put me on a drug called tamsulosin. Suddenly I find myself waking up with a hard-on in the middle of the night. My erections now are stronger and last much longer. This comes as no surprise as the doctor told me that tadalafil - the ED drug - is also used in the treatment for an enlarged prostate. Talk about killing 2 birds with 1 stone!1 point -
Reflections on Ageing and Changing Desires
ChristianPFC reacted to vinapu for a topic
sometimes it's impossible and it's better to learn to live with them. I like my sister dearly but there's one issue we are fighting for last 55 years and we will never agree on it: where family friend Gene was standing in our kitchen when she told our mother she is pregnant. ( She was 19 and unmarried at the time so it was kind of sensation) I swear and never yield she was standing by radio stand, my sisters claims she was by kitchen sink and is not planning to change that in this life and three next ones. We once asked Gene to mediate but she only made more mess claiming she was sitting on the sofa in living room so we agreed she simply lies and doesn't remember anything. So from grave disagreement, amicable agreement emerged and we could return to our dispute.1 point -
first , nobody will crush you there because Tawan is in my opinion friendliest bar of them all, even friendlier than Banana Second , when I was there last week it was at least 5 or 6 twinks / twunks in audience including smallest one who is also bottom in 'special 'show and original resident twink Mas who gives quite decent massages upstairs. Third don't bring shame to this forum and visit Tawan tonight. Show starts 10.30 so program is 9-10.30 massage upstairs with Mas or some other guy , 10.30-11.30 watching show, from 11.30 off bottom twink to nearby hotel to do proper measurements . Ok? Promise ?1 point
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Best GoGo Bar
ChristianPFC reacted to vinapu for a topic
There's no such thing like best bar. First, your criteria what constitutes 'best' may not necessarily correspond with somebody else's . The same goes with quality boys. What that really means ? Some may be looking for face , others for cuteness, other still for lack of tattoo, disk size, bushy or shaved pubes etc. Sex performance? again what's that? Great l top may be lousy or most likely , not existing, bottom. Drinks are pretty uniformly priced at 400-500 and off fees are 500 with exception of models at Moonlight where it's 1000. Even if you ask what is members favorite bar and why you may get whole list as different people are looking for different things.1 point -
Twinks in Pattaya
MarcSingap reacted to vinapu for a topic
I consider this type of behavior i.e. when boy is offered drink , accepts it and leaves after taking sip or two , extremely rude. It happened to me at Moonlight last trip , well known and multiple times offed guy, lets call him A, asked for drink so I agreed. He took one sip and asked for permission to go for a minute to chat with other (lady) client . Minute turned to rest of the evening , till at least I was in the bar. He never returned. Since we know each other well I thought he took me too lightly. After all it was 400 baht drink not beer at 7/11 Next time there, week and half later situation repeated , he approaches me asks for drink. I agreed but told him to his red face that I expect him to sit with me until drink will be done because I did not like what happened last time. This time he did, I even tipped him but to keep balance called also other guy to wing me and offed that other guy.1 point -
I personally don't tip just for sitting with me and having drink on me but always do tip when get more touchy feely- not necessarily in nether regions even. My reasoning is if I do to them something out of ordinary like hand holding or embracing they should be compensated for me invading their personal space. More personal invasion results in bigger tips.1 point
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Patpong comings and goings
splinter1949 reacted to vinapu for a topic
Orange were on sale perhaps. I don't like green colour on clothes and yet for years world saw me in green parka . Why?, only green was on sale at 50% off. Tempting for piece for garment costing 300$ and this was 20 years ago1 point -
Happy to hear that you managed one more off before your flight back. And I knew it before you wrote here thanks to info from another fellow forum member! Actually Hot Male should change its name to Big Male or Long Male. Their guys have such big and long cocks!1 point
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Your comment is correct, but having had Hepatitis B 30 years ago from infected seafood I can tell you it is no fun. In fact it will kill your fun for quite a long time. It takes about a year for the body to fully recover. My first few days were in hospital, then 6 weeks resting at home. Thereafter I had precious little energy for a few more months.1 point
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Gangbang
MarcSingap reacted to vinapu for a topic
why us, isn't it you who is looking for gang bang ?1 point -
Gangbang
Ryanqqq reacted to floridarob for a topic
And when you return and tell him how many cocks you got fucked by and sucked, asses you ate, watch him fall down because I'll bet his hoochie koochie he was talking about was with females 😱1 point -
Long post ... I returned from Bangkok on Sunday, after spending nine days in Silom. After all of my planning and worry about missing out on sex in Bangkok; which is why I was busying myself with trying to book guys in massage spas, I ended up not going to any at all. I changed my Grindr profile to 👀mb🍆 and then used google translate to write a short description - caucasian bottom in Bangkok for 9 days looking for well hung money boy tops. From the moment I opened Grindr after I arrived in the hotel (Ibis Styles Silom), I was flooded with messages from money boys, and "not-money-boys" but happy to get a little reward for their time... The first guy I met (Thai) insisted he was a top online but then couldn't get it up and eventually admitted he was a bottom and wanted me to fuck him... wasn't going to happen... I was a top when I first visited Thailand twenty years ago, but not anymore. He was a beautiful guy though and I loved laying with him in the bed for a couple of hours. He charged 2000 baht and wasn't watching the clock at all. Next guy (Thai) was hot - gym toned and smooth and a big cock. He fucked me perfectly and came back another three times before I left Bangkok. He was 2500 baht each time and also didn't watch the clock. Over the following days I met a few more guys... They were always either 2000 baht or 2500 baht and none of them were clock watchers. I only felt that one of them didn't really like me and he still did the job well. A few seemed to either really like me or the money or both and messaged me constantly. Three guys are still keeping in touch with me even since coming home, which is amazing to me. All the guys I met were between 19 and 32 and were all slim to athletic or gym toned. A few were from Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam, one was from Myanmar and two were half Thai mixed. I have to say that even though I knew that the old story that Asian guys have small cocks was not true, I found out on this trip just how untrue it really is. From one day to the next I seemed to be getting bigger and bigger cocks to the point where I am sure that I had the biggest cocks I've ever had during this trip to Thailand. I had two young guys (19-20) that just liked me to suck them off a few times each for 1500 baht which was nice. One guy brought along his "friend" to put on a fuck show for me in my room - I'd never seen a gay sex show live before so that was really hot and cost me 5000 baht. For a guy who can't host at home, and rarely organising hotel hook-ups, seeing these incredibly hot toned smooth young guys some with huge cocks undressing in my hotel room, showering and then walking over to the bed proudly swinging their meat as i was about to suck them and take their cock in my ass was just about the hottest thing I have ever seen. Even though I managed a lot of sex, I still got out and about to see a bit of Thai life and culture on the skytrain, skywalk, metro, at local markets (Khlong Toei and Khlong Thom - wow) and the Maeklong train market at , various temples, the grand palace, Saranrom Park and Lumphini Park. I didn't hit the bars, even though a few guys offered to show me around. After getting drenched in sweat on my long walks about town and then head down ass up for a few hours I was exhausted. But I regret not taking them up on the offer now and wish I had have done a little of the nightlife. I will sure do that next time. I am pretty sure that most of the guys I met this time will still be in touch with me next time I visit (via Line app). Some of the guys were really really nice, and Thai people in general seem really polite and friendly. I will do some Thai lessons in the lead up to my next visit. So, I was completely blown away in a good way by my visit to Thailand for the guys, the sex and the experience generally. It was so much better than my first time to Thailand 20 years ago (when I was a top), though I am not entirely sure why. Maybe I am a bit more mature or worldly than I was back then... I can really see myself retiring to Thailand in ten years or so to an apartment in Silom or a traditional Thai house on the outskirts of Bangkok (who knows?). I'd be best to take a few more trips to Thailand between now and then to confirm that's what I want to do. When is my next trip? December 2023 already booked! 🙏 PS. There's not much point in doing individual reviews (as I said I would do in the case of massage spa boys) on the money boys I met off grindr because they change profile names so often and fall off and back on grindr even during my 9 days there. It's very easy to hook up on Grindr in Bangkok and my success rate of getting exactly what I was looking for was very very high. But do watch out for guys who do drugs. I had one go off his face in my hotel room after taking something before he arrived. After that experience I always made it clear that I wanted no NO DRUGS - NO HI...1 point
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I already reported from Hot Male that I snatched boy from client who took too much time to contemplate her move, sometimes one needs to act fast1 point
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It's the Thai logic when business drops to raise rates as an attempt to compensate for the decrease in cash flow. In my last visit there back in 2017 as far as I remember was 500b and for show guy 800b, 1000b off fee is really a shock so how much they charge for show guy 1500b ? Redicilius.1 point
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In the early 2000s I'd watch the web cam shows from the William Higgins place in Prague. I chatted a lot with the guy who worked behind the scenes operating the gear and moderating. He invited me to come by when I visited Prague once, it was pretty cool. Most of the Czech guys were so hot. Although as the moderator pointed out, everybody's ass looks the same in isolation from the rest of their body.1 point
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I was brought up as a Protestant and even played piano for a Bible class most Sundays as a teenager. I didn't want to but there was some parental pressure there from my mother. I have never been a churchgoer since my teens. I find the endless communal singing of hymns with words and music written mostly more than a century ago incredibly boring. On the other hand, I once saw on television a Church service with a pop band. That also turned me right off. Equally, readings from a book part of which is about fables that originated millennia ago and only many centuries later put into writing (and we know what happens when one person repeats what he has heard to another, who then repeats it to another, and so on - it always ends up as a completely different story), and part of which was decided for us by various Councils in the 4th century long after the death of Jesus when again memories would have been fallible. Being gay has never had anything to do with my thoughts on religion. I just happen to believe that religions in general were necessary all that time ago as a glue to keep tribes and later societies together. Again for millennia, life on earth was so grim for so many people, the thought that there was paradise somewhere up in the sky where all was wine and roses but which you could only enter into if you behaved well down here on earth must have been very appealing to vast numbers. (I wonder how many know that the word 'paradise' comes from the Persian meaning garden) When I see on television the extraordinary images from the combination of the Hubble and James Webb telescopes, I marvel that these amazing scenes are of events that happened so long ago my mind simply cannot comprehend them. Here on earth we are a mere tiny speck of a tiny speck given the vastness of what we are told is a still expanding universe (something else I canot understand). Given that, though, how is that our various earthly religions claim to have got it all so right?1 point
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Have you gave religion away being gay?
Finnseventy reacted to Ruthrieston for a topic
Warning! Possibly this will be a long, boring story so read at your peril! I was brought up in Scotland attending the local Presbyterian Church of Scotland until at the age of twelve the Minister visited my home to say that because I had not been baptised I must now be baptised otherwise I would not be allowed to attend Bible Class. This was the first I had heard of it, my older brother had been baptised as a baby but my mother had refused to have me baptised, and said I should be allowed to choose for myself. For the next year or so, with the assistance of my Religious Studies teacher at my school I visited many different religious groups, the ones I liked most being the Quakers for the silent meetings, and the High Anglicans for all the bells and smells (incense and flashy garb worn by the priests and assistants). The place that brought me closest to where I wanted to be was the Roman Catholic Church where I was counselled by a Benedictine monk for months and finally I was baptised and then confirmed, to the horror of my parents. On leaving school at 17 I entered an enclosed, silent Benedictine monastery, the Abbey was built in the year 1230 and was semi-ruined and being restored. The community chanted the Office seven times a day and the Mass in Latin, Gregorian plainchant. I had been visiting the monastery on retreat each year since I was 14, and the community had watched me grow up, and when I asked to be admitted as a Postulant the Abbot looked at me and said "Well we have been waiting for you, get on with it." As a teenager I had tried to commit suicide three times because I could not cope with being gay. Converting to the Catholic Church gave me a focus and a community who welcomed me. I am quite sure the community was aware that I was gay, but nothing was ever said. And there was no mucking about, this was a good community of dedicated monks. After time as a Postulant, then a Novice, I asked to be allowed to take my first vows, called Simple Profession, the vows lasting three years, and then you would make Solemn Profession, vows for life. As the Bendictine Rule required, I was presented to the community by the Novice Master, then left as they debated my fitness to be allowed to remain and take my vows, then a secret vote is taken, each monk holding a white ball and a black ball and putting their hands into a wooden box so their vote is hidden from view. You need a two thirds plus one vote to be allowed to take your vows. When I was summoned to the Abbot's study, kneeling on the stone floor, I was convinced that I would have to leave, but after a long silence the Abbot said I had received the vote to stay and that as it was the 1500th centenary of St Benedict's birth I would be given the name Benedict. Then after an even longer silence the Abbot looked at me and said, "We never discuss the vote, but you need to hear this, your vote was unanimous." I was stunned, and that was the moment in my life that I finally realised there was nothing wrong with me, if these good, holy men could welcome me into their community then I could accept myself. I stayed for another three years to get the courage to leave and start to live my life. On leaving I continued to have a deep faith, attending Mass every day and praying daily. I chose to train to be a nurse, and after three years when I qualified there were no jobs in my home town and I ended up moving to London and working in Charing Cross Hospital and then moving to St Stephen's Hospital in Fulham to work in one of the largest HIV/AIDS wards. This was 1987 when thigs were really bad. Every day we saw half our patients die, nine or ten mostly young gay men in their teens and early twenties. Many of their families disowned them, though many others came to support them. After a couple of years of this, losing friends and colleagues to AIDS, too many to count, my faith finally died. I tried really hard to hold on to may faith in God, but so matter how hard I tried my faith was gone. To this day I miss my faith, but it is gone.1 point -
Free Walking Tour Metrocable Parque Arvi Comuna 13 Parque Explora Jardin Botanico Cementerio Museo San Pedro Catedrala Metroplolitana Parque de Bolivar Plaza Botero Antioquia Museum Palacio de la Cultura Uribe Parque Berrio Basilica Nuestra Senora de la Canderlaria Centro Palacio Commercial Museo Casa de la Memoria Plaza Cisneros – Parque de las Luces Plaza de la Libertad Parque de los Pies Descalzos Pueblito Paisa Museo de Arte Moderno Parque Lleras Museo el Castillo1 point
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That is a lot of the major sites; I might add a few notes: Parque del Rio Medellin has spectacular lights at night. El Segundo Parque de Laureles has just been redesigned and re-opened and is a great spot for exploring night or day. The Estadio Giradot and the surrounding sports complexes (6 pools!) is a good afternoon stroll and popular workout spot. Parque Arvi is enormous and contains 5 distinct zones. I would recommend picking just one to hike as the trails can be fairly long (60-90 minute for most). You can download the app to your phone to get an interactive map as well. Cemetario de Belén is a nice option and more interesting architecturally During the Fiesta de las flores, it is traditional to visit the town of Santa Elena where many of the silleteros are designed. it is the heart of the flower industry in Medellin. Finally, you have not mentioned Guatapé and El Peñol which are 90 minutes away and worth the trip. I usually spend a long weekend there (you can rent a luxury finca for nothing) to chill out and hang with friends for a few days. No shortage of things to do. Good luck with your planning.1 point