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I recently came across this forum and have been reading the many posts on gay adventures in beautiful Egypt. I wanted to pay my contribution by adding stories of my experiences as a 30-year old European expat living in Cairo between 2015 and 2020. My apologies for the context I would like to provide. The main reason for leaving Europe in 2015 was the lack of adventure and excitement I felt in my early thirties. I was living in rainy Western Europe, had random unexcited hook ups via Tindr or Grindr once in a while, but generally felt like living a boring routine. Therefore, I applied for a teaching position at a Cairo international school, was offered the job and left for the unknown. The moment I arrived at Cairo Airport, I knew I was about to love this country: chaos, shouting everywhere, a lack of structure, adventure, the heat, ... Soon I was about to discover something else: the ridiculously handsome men available... everywhere. The school arranged us a flat in a lush suburb south of the city center, Maadi. Having your own space, it turned out quickly, had amazing advantages in terms of excitement. Each apartment building in Maadi is guarded by a bowab, a local doorkeeper, often from the southern Egyptian regions. Separated from their families in the warm south and often very young of age, their main task is to maintain the building and secure your safety. The first week of arrival, our building's bowab asked me to help him move a table in one of the other flats. it was 'too heavy to lift by one person only'. How naive could I be? Soon he wanted to show me the flat's bathroom 'as it was more modern than mine'. Before I realised, we were showering together. The sex was quick, rough and meaningless. Finished by a 'Welcome to Egypt', I could not have imagined this to be start of a new journey. I subscribed at a local gym. After work, not wanting to hang out with my colleagues all the time, I would hit the place and finish off in the sauna. Within days, I became part of the (gym) community. Egyptians are very eager to meet foreigners in general and the sociological characteristics of that Maadi sauna were of an interest to me. After working out, men would typically hang out in the sauna or in the steam bath. All pre-arranged married, they did not seem to have the appetite to go home early. Neither did they particularly seem to like / love their wives. They all raved about their kids, yet - Egyptians don't shy the topic - the marital sex life was far from satisfying for many of them. Most men I met in the gym (and later), it seemed to me, were eager to enjoy and explore life. The word 'gay' was never mentioned, nor assumed. It was all about enjoying, relaxing, massaging, smoking shisha, going home and watching porn / masturbating together, having a beer, smoking hasjish and finishing off with quick, good sex. Five of us would become friends with benefits: through them - on parties in Maadi or the city center - I would meet other men. In exchange, I invited expat colleagues. I could never have imagined this being the Middle East. Men looked beyond gorgeous with their muscled bulky bodies, deep voices, dark-brown soft skin, cheeky smiles and endless capacity to explore. They all seemed so relaxed. They live life to the fullest, especially as the Revolution had proven that things could turn to worse very quickly. That atmosphere felt so sexy and harmless. I never felt the need to turn on Grindr on Tindr, you just would meet endless boys and men in the supermarket, in coffee bars, on the metro, in taxi's (Uber got introduced when I was living in Cairo - a hot spot as well) and in bars and clubs in the city center. In terms of Cairo, I remember the railway station (Ramses Station) and the huge square in front of it to be a popular hook up spot, as well as the bridge crossing the Nile at Tahrir Square (Qasr El Nil Bridge). However, as mentioned, there never seemed to be the need to look for something. It would come to you! In Aswan, for instance, I was approached by the taxi driver who drove me from the airport to the hotel late at night. Nubian penises and fatter are bigger than in Cairo. Moreover, the city's feluccas and corniche are ridiculously cruisy, both at day and night. I occasionally picked a handsome (and incredibly fit) felucca sailor and we had sex in his boat around Elephant Island in the River Nile. On a Luxor trip, I would visit the temples and Valley of the Kings in the very early morning and relax at the hotel's pool / room in the early afternoon. As mentioned on this blog earlier, staff is eager to meet you. Egyptians are allowed to enter the big hotels without any issue. There is too much passage to control. At the Luxor Steigenberger I invited a fruit vendor I met at the temples earlier that day. His triceps were the biggest I had ever felt in my life. Although the sex was rubbish, just seeing him undress and observe his body was a pleasure enough. Alexandria is a driving sea city in which all life surrounds the most amazing sea side boulevard I have ever came across. Hotels turn into rooftop night clubs at night. People enter and leave the buildings at a paste unable to control. When looking for more adventure, try one of the many desert tours (with overnight camping - pleasure guaranteed with the staff), a Siwa oasis visit, crossing the Suez Canal from Port Said to Port Fouad, relaxing in one of Dahab's open-minded hammock guest houses or staying over at one of the 'liberal / freedom camps' between Sharm-El Sheikh and Taba. Having an Egyptian boyfriend - I got even introduced to his (well-educated) parents - is a different story. They are hard work. In the flux they are at, it almost seems impossible for them to meaningfully connect to one person. Monogamy is unheard of in Egypt's gay community. They key words remain pleasure, devotion, emotion, passion, unlimited sexual drive and endless adventures. Enjoy this marvelous spot on Earth, both culturally and spiritually! Cheers B.

Oh, I get it. In Scotty Land you wait until it's a pandemic then you begin vaccinating. Brilliant. Think we tried that three years ago.

Didn't you noticed it's a 13 years thread...

Early 20's, many with tattoos, almost a younger version of Nice Boys. Little on the twink front but some in shouting distance of twinkness. Currently shirtless, wearing jeans.

Thailand is not in the western world, Doctor Scotty.

These are the bivalent versions. So these are pretty new.

it goes without saying that professional massage delivers happy ending , no?

I'm inclined to think this is a recent reincarnation of one of the many massage shops on Sutthian Winitchair Rd. (Saphan Kwai area). I recognize a number of masseurs in the huge photo display as having worked--or now working--at K Man, KK and other shops in vicinity. These guys are all free agents who make themselves available on an "on-call" basis so better to call ahead.

On nothing, as usual.

Be assured I take the site seriously. If its members didn't, it wouldn't be the premier gay site about Thailand and beyond. I'm heartened that you've taken up the spirit of participation. And for someone who hasn't been in town for 18 years, you've wasted no time in finding another promising massage venue in Ladprao. In any case, welcome aboard.

Unless there's video I think you have to take the Myanmar photos with a grain of salt. Some shops don't photoshop the D, but many do. I don't know why since you're likely to be disappointed when you meet them IRL. As for Thailand shops, I don't think I've seen any publicly showing nude photos. Some will post photos of some guys hard in their underwear. I think if there's someone you are interested in you should contact the shop and ask about particulars. If it's more legit massage they will probably be very circumspect though.

"Extreme leftward turn"? You and I have a very different understanding of the word extreme. Biden is about as oatmeal as it gets. There have always been a few outliers who always get more media because reporters think that's more entertaining. I wish the media would stop trying to entertain us and try instead to inform us.

You may be safe and secure in your falangdom home but there are other readers (expats and tourists) who find themselves in need of it in Thailand. I think the mother ship is calling. Time to beam yourself up, Scotty.

Yes, but unfortunately not all countries have access to them. The Philippines for example has not have it, so I quickly messaged a friend when I saw this post. He got vaccinated for 380 baht, which is a fair price. We currently have a 10% positivity rate because of the holidays. Not pandemic level, but still concerning.

Covid continues to ne reported everywhere, including Thailanf and west. Everywhere, of course, except the never-neverland inhabited by Doctor Scotty.

Oh that's scarry. Thailand is still having Covid pandemic? If this is what you are saying...

Thanks. I do use flight tracking apps. However, I am from Oceania so it's a bit further and has fewer options than you.

On what do you base that information?

Simple. guestbijbg ceased being a member ages ago!

Another Massage Spa I have found in my travels on LINE, but I can't find on Twitter is One Spa. They have guy's photos (no nude) on blogspot with name, role, cock size, age height, weight and min tip. Google Maps shows the location as the "Member Dog Pet Store" - must be an old listing or something. It's across the road from the Thai-Chinese Comfort Food Cafe on Sutthisan Winitchai Rd, Samsen Nai, Phaya Thai, Bangkok. They quoted me 2000 baht for a guy to come to my hotel (in a few weeks) including shop fee, min tip and taxi to and fro. From what I have seen so far, that sounds really good! Blogspot link - https://onespa3.blogspot.com/

I've recently discovered 285 massage&spa post some nude pics on their line account (lin.ee/6ILhvbM), but I cant find any others that do.. I'll get back shortly with the links to Myamnar Massage and Spa places with nudes... 285 Massage Spa Twitter is https://twitter.com/bigbigspa2566

Thanks for reprimanding me Reader... I was considering posting this post as the 34th reply to my first opening post, but decided not to as I thought that post was getting a little long in the tooth and most (25) of the replies were not to me anyway, but to other readers ... However, I will now consider myself appropriately scolded and return to reply with thanks to those who replied, including you. As for "Now you're back, looking for members to do more of your bidding" - are you joking? I wonder if you take things a little too seriously??? I have just joined the site, I have only been to Thailand once in 2005 and have no contemporary knowledge at all to share. I am therefore, for now, in an all-take and no-give information position. On my return from Thailand, I will post my experiences for others to read. Finally, if you place your cursor over the blue palm out warning you will see that it is a "jeremy joined recently" advice - not some symbol assigning me to the naughty corner. Your reply has prompted me to discover the like button though, so thankyou.

Thanks everyone for your replies - I will see how things go and report back on my experiences!

Well, the rarest blood group is AB-, but those people can receive blood from any donor who's Rh-negative (for example A-, B-, O-). There isn't really a "rare" blood group, since the percentage of donors from each group will probably equal the percentage of those needing the blood. What is true is that O- is in greatest demand. This is because if someone needs an emergency supply of blood, and there isn't time to type and cross, one must give from O-, the only universal donor. In any case, this story doesn't ring true for me.

If it's indeed the classic anti-nuclear war film starring Gregory Peck, I'd agree that it's not well suited for this entertainment setting. But they claim that the movies to be screened are about Pattaya ("....movies will be played each day in multiple languages, with films focusing on things in Pattaya.") so I'm hoping that Pattaya Movie on the Beach is just the name of the festival and not necessarily that of the film.

For the air con aficionados, one air con unit was broken and is now repaired as of last night; now pleasantly cool! A few customers and about 6 boys on stage last night. One customer was constantly calling boys over to inspect the merchandise and tip them. Another was also giving out some 50 B tips to one and all the lads. And others sat on their hands; a typical night at a go-go club.

And some posted condom size in the past. Can't recall which places as it was well pre covid. Just noticed kman spa does on its twitter acct.

Can you share the sites for Myanmar massage places?

Jeremy, on April 19 you made your first opening post (Looking for advice on massage spas for - not for massage!). About a dozen different members chimed in with comments. You never acknowledged any and were never heard from again. Now you're back, looking for members to do more of your bidding. I think I understand more clearly why the administrator places the blue palm out warning next to your avatar.

The guys in tawan report as early as 7pm.

when was last time you were in Bangkok bars? for me they are twink infested, twinks encroaching even on Tawan territory

The NEW Screwboys has only been open for a few evenings...looking at the boys pictured on FB one can sense they are reverting to the historic type of boys...slightly less twinky than Freshboys and less compact male than HotMale. I arrive two weeks from this morning and will do a personal survey.

these spas are also all on Line and frequently post the day's roster of available guys there

I did go down the rabbit hole and learned that "non-straight" is actually Non who is straight. I also fond that Reader covered all this in 2022.

Being an avid reader of Reader's posts, i got caught up in this "conversation" and never having heard of 15M decided to google it. The "g" had little but did send me to Twitter where 15M Massage @boybk12345 can be found. Photos of the massage artists are included and info on gay/straight/non-straight (whatever that means) was shown. There is also a reference in some of the photos to 27M Massage (I found it when glancing at the photo of Dumbbell Gay). Don't have time right now to go down that rabbit hole.

@spoon Whilst Riobard's post indicates he is familar with Tawan - and the body type found there - I would be careful not to leave him with the impression that Arena, VCK, Jey Spa or Sabaidee have similar types. The odd guy at these places might come close to the bodybuilder or semi-body-builder look of Tawan, but generally speaking Tawan is in a class of its own. Most (on some days all) of the guys at those four places cannot hold a candle to Tawan's. If you want an idea of what's more typical at these four places, look at the body type displayed on Jupiter bar's Facebook page. I'm referring to the boys doing the catwalk in videos, not the boys selected for Jupiter's static ads, some of whom could be outside models hired for photoshoots. While I haven't done as many rounds of the Saphan Khwai places as some experts here, I believe Saphan Khwai is more a twink paradise.

Any shortlist of where the bigger buff guys are located, and provide service in the massage place itself, in the more concentrated zone mentioned above? Are the more bodybuilder types rather concentrated in a single place or district, or are they scattered here and there to round out the range of types within each spa? Just Tawan club and use that as the source of hires? Do they cross over to day hours at what appears to be a massage place of the same name beside the club? That said, skill of therapeutic massage not a priority for me. And my cash budget is ample. I don’t mind sourcing candidates via attending Tawan nighttime shows, but if there’s a reasonable option without squandering too much time I am keen to know about it.

I agree with pretty much everything reader says, except that the places in Silom 6 are more legit massage oriented. If you want sex and not a massage then places like 15M are certainly the place to go. You aren't likely to get much of a massage. When I went to 15M my masseur was nude from the start and offered to fuck me pretty much right away. No need to take him to your hotel, just go to the shop. As noted they are easy to get to. I think they prefer that you order ahead but they will have some guys in the shop or some who are not too far away that you can choose by photo.

You already seem to have found some notable leads in your search. All of them can be easily reached by BTS and MRT. As for the Silom area where you're staying, you can simply walk around. You'll find many shops along Surawong and Silom roads. The largest concentration (six shops) is located on a short stretch of Siom Soi 6 just off Silom road after passing Bangkok Christian Hospital. My personal preference is to patronize the shops where you can view the masseurs in person. Most shops will offer clients the option of offing a masseur for an extra fee. But for the first experience with a guy of your choice I'd stick with an in-shop massage. Prices are reasonable. Some shops (especially in the outer districts like Saphan Kwai) display photos on line or by email request. And you can always use the site's search engine for more ideas.

What spectacular snobbery. They hardly travel like peasants so perhaps you should find out what it's really like.

I am well vaccinated, all 4 doses, with the bivalent version done last September, thank you for asking. I am a farlang from the western world, I don't need to search for vaccine in Thailand. But in your world, please continue your quarantine and don't go anywhere because the Corona virus is everywhere.

Right, those left overs.

Some of us don't like to travel the way Brazil peasants do.

Reported...but it's not a pandemic anymore. Welcome to the real world, but of course real world is not @reader's Thailand world. I hope @readercontinues to quarantine himself. Good job.

I have seen suggestions that Manchin run for President as an Independent. I think the Media is pushing the conversation because it will make for a an even livelier election for them if he runs a campaign. https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3982358-manchin-third-party-white-house-bid/ I personally hopes he runs because it will make for a very entertaining election season. Would Manchin running as a 3rd party hurt Biden? Would the moderate Democrats that have tired of the extreme leftward turn of their party vote for him? Would it hurt Trump giving anti-Trump republicans a place to land? The real decision voters in this country are now Independent voters. Where would they land? Would Manchin appeal to the suburban soccer mom voters? Does a 3rd party candidate really stand a chance in a USA Presidential election? They usually just serve as a spoiler that can change an election. Bush would have won a second term if Ross Perot had not have run, giving the Election to Clinton. Obviously more questions than answers but interesting to consider what happens if Manchin does run.