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Though smaller potatoes I'm looking forward to the Rudy & Sydney Show

check timetable for Eastern Line, weekdays is only one slow train at 6.55, on weekend is replaced by faster one at 6.45. train is much slower than bus but on vacation we have time, main obstacle is early departure hour. Considering that Hualampong is 5 minutes from Silom but bus station Ekkamai about 40 and Swampy up to hour, slow train becomes more attractive when door to door travel time is considered Name of Pattaya station is surprisingly plain "Pattaya"

Is that another way to call me a whore? Don’t know about comehombres but come in hombres sounds better

Perhaps they wouldnt see it on FOX, but they sure as hell would see it in some other media they access. Those groveling pics and statements would be all over the airwaves, so the mission would still be accomplished.

I tend to agree. I don't see their viewers as independent either. And, can't be convinced otherwise.

Just over 50% of Florida voters participated in the state's 2022 Gubernatorial election - as I read the reports. Gov. DeSantis received 59% of the approx. 50%+ participants. Hardly an indication of popularity. Democrats nominated an unelectable candidate to challenge Gov. DeSantis in 2022, and, before the race began, Democrats effectively conceded to his eventual victory. Elections are typically decided by the quality of candidates offered for consideration. Yes, there are exceptions. Democrats have mistakenly given up on Florida. Let's remember in Gov. DeSantis' first race for Governor he narrowly beat a gay, drug using Black candidate (his drug using / escort patronizing opposition wasn't fully revealed at the time). Gov. DeSantis isn't pragmatic, he's an extremist / authoritarian and vindictive liar. Nothing pragmatic about Gov. DeSantis' behavior. Political pragmatism is generally thought to mean someone who is driven largely by regard for good consequences. Gov. DeSantis' actions are the opposite; they've ndangered the state's senior's and others by distorting COVID statistics and risks. Concentrating on evoking GOP "wokeness" on the myriad of social issues such as: LBGTQ+, abortion, black history studies, book banning, removal of popularly elected law enforcement officials, Mickey Mouse has been Gov. DeSantis' hallmark. Gov. DeSantis isn't as popular as uninformed pundits suggest. Re: "Hurricanes"? That's the most ignorant remark I've read in a long time. There are times when we don't know what we're talking about, and we should sit down and shut up. I'll continue to stand. 😀

I have two Google Fi numbers and Google Pixel phones. I love them. The roaming abroad is great but not always consistent. For example, I'd had issues with getting SMS's at times as well. I do have a Thai number in one Pixel as well and use the phone as dual Sim.

Do not feed the troll. She is lonely and bitter, and desperate for attention. Ignore her or laugh at her, but do not engage. Are you nuts, trying to have a rational conversation?

NEW YORK (The Borowitz Report) Reeling from its punishing settlement agreement with Dominion Voting Systems, a newly cash-strapped Fox News Channel has been forced to sell Representative Kevin McCarthy. Rupert Murdoch, who acquired the Speaker of the House just two months ago, expressed sadness that new financial realities had necessitated the sale. “I wish Kevin well,” the Fox owner said. “I hope whoever buys him finds as much use for him as I did.” Even as many in Washington expressed skepticism about the House Speaker’s market value, Murdoch’s plans to sell McCarthy faced a significant roadblock in the form of the Georgia congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene. “I have no idea why Fox thinks they can sell Kevin McCarthy,” she told reporters. “I own Kevin.”

The sprikeling of water is not what i am seeing here in Pattaya. Whole buckets of water straight to the face while riding a motorbike. Dangerous stuff. Ohhh, almost over and back to low season. Lovely!

It may be that I have become sentimental in my old age and find myself much more comfortable with the "old" Thai culture. Or perhaps it is because, in 1997, I received a bucket of iced-water in my face while traveling on the Jomtien bus traveling at 30mph and have avoided Songkran ever since. Similarly, the traditional practice of making- not buying- kratongs, which I know took a lot of time and effort, appealed to be more than dangerous fireworks on Pattaya beach. But I suppose that's age too.

that's why I watch it, I feel much younger being main reason

From Richard Barrow Thai Train Guide If you are a seasoned rail traveler, you probably already know that you can pick up paper railway timetables for free at the information counter at most stations. However, there are now alternative ways of checking the timetables. You have a choice of checking online on the official website or by downloading the SRT Timetable Application for your smartphone [App Store] or [Google Play]. You not only get to see the times for the trains for each stop, but there is more information such as pictures of the seats in the carriages and also prices for each class. UPDATED: I also have copies of the printed version of the timetables released by the State Railway of Thailand in February 2023. Please note, other than the first train, only the arrival train times are shown. Some trains will stop only a minute or two at each station, but you might find that at some stations, the departure time might be ten minutes or more after the shown arrival time. SRT Timetables for Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Terminal: Northern Line | Southern Line | Northeastern Line | Red Line | Red Line (Taling Chan) | Red Line (Rangsit) SRT Timetables for Bangkok Railway Station (Hua Lamphong): Northern Line | Southern Line | Northeastern Line | Eastern Line | Commuter Line | Nakhon Pathom Commuter Line | Other SRT Timetables: Maeklong Line NEW: You can also download a PDF of all of these timetables:. https://www.thaitrainguide.com/timetables/

So to the degree that we actually have facts about this, they are interesting. Both good news and bad news. The good news is that the studies that have been done suggest lots of independent thinkers watch Fox. And it actually does change their mind, and the way they vote. The bad news, speaking as a partisan Democrat, is that Fox is particularly good at persuading viewers to vote Republican. A stunning new study shows that Fox News is more powerful than we ever imagined So I'll say this. That long Vox article refers to various studies. And it has the feel of throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks. I'd take all of it with a grain of salt. I don't believe, for example, that but for Fox News John Kerry would have won in 2004. And Barack Obama would have gotten 60 % of the vote in 2008. That seems like a huge stretch to me, based on estimates by academics. That said, I definitely buy the idea that Fox News manages over time to turn people who mostly vote Democratic into people who mostly vote Republican. It is an effective ideological machine, as the author and studies document. So then it depends on what the meaning of "independent" is. By definition, if you are persuading voters to switch from supporting Democrats to Republicans, those voters are at least somewhat independent thinkers. Then again, if they are switching because they are being subjected to constant lies and ideological ranting, maybe they are not so independent. Further complicating matters is there is (or was) the Fox News of Shep Smith. Leftie Bernie and Good Gay Guy Mayor Pete made a point to do town halls with Fox News in 2020, since they insisted they had good arguments to make to Fox News viewers. Which they did have, and did make. I watched the town halls run by Brett and Martha and I thought they were really well done. So the Fox News of Shep, Brett, Martha and (used to be) Chris Wallace is NOT the Fox News of Tucker, Sean, and Laura. Even though these studies sound to me like they go too far, I do buy the basic idea. I think it is pretty plain and clear. While most Fox viewers are solid Republicans, not all are. And, over a period of time, Fox has been able to move the dial by relentlessly subjecting those "independent" viewers to "facts" slanted very heavily with conservative ideology. To the point where you can question whether they are even "facts" at all. That said, as a viewer of CNN and MSNBC, I would argue - as the studies do - that they do the same thing. Just not as effectively. That chart that shows Fox going hard right while NSNBC went hard left for over a decade does help to explain the growing ideological divide in America. We all tend to believe what we hear in the ideological silo we choose to live in. Where's Walter Cronkite when you need him? To bring it back to the BIG LIE, all of this has to be bad news for the folks at Bullshit Mountain, as Jon Stewart called it. If anything at all in these studies is correct, it has to be based on the idea that somewhat independent viewers can actually trust Fox News to be "fair and balanced." We now know that Sean and Tucker are cheating lovers who tell you one thing to woo you, and then dump you like a stupid whore when they privately text each other. It's just very bad news for the lying whores who lost. They get rich and powerful sucking Donald Trump's gross and nasty cock, even though they have now said they hate it passionately. Even Stormy Daniels wouldn't do that. Sorry, Tucker. You're still a great guy and all.

Best wishes for both HOME runs.

Ponte 202 free suíte night was pretty good. Saw some new faces. Two more nights in Rio before heading to SP. Might check out The Home tonight as there is a special event after 117. https://thehomeclub.com.br/ A GP I met last night is visiting me at my hotel around 1-2 pm for pre sauna session. See if he is Brazilian punctual.

X in tawan does massage freelance during the afternoon. u can arrange directly with him when u go to the bar so as not to incur extra fees.

Thanks for the clarification. Now I know exactly what you mean. As the liberal still standing, I'm not going to disagree with your criticisms of DeSantis. Given that you live in Florida, I'm guessing you vote there. And I'm guessing you probably did not vote for DeSantis. That said, almost 60 % of people who voted did. He actually got about 600,000 more votes in 2022 (4.6 million) than he did in 2018. When, as you noted, he was expected to lose, and barely won. I'm guessing that DID NOT happen because most Floridians like extremes - in the leaders, or hurricanes. One of the real joys in life is watching Anna Navarro, who despises Charlie Crist, go into her rant about how happy she is that she got to vote against Crist as a Republican, and vote against Crist as an Independent, and vote against Crist as a Democrat. So she would probably agree with you that Crist was unelectable. That said, he actually was elected Governor in 2006. Granted, a long time ago. But he won two House races as well. So that makes him seem more electable than poor Andrew Gillum. I think one huge difference between 2022 and 2018 is in 2018 the Democrats had an anti-Trump wave pushing them along, at least in blue states. In 2022 there was a red wave, in red states. I agree with you that Democrats should not write off Florida in 2024. That said, I got the fundraising appeals from Val Demings. And I was not going to send a dime. I sent my money, I think wisely, to Warnock and Fetterman and Barnes - two of whom won close races. Demings was not even in the ballpark, sadly. Even with ACT Blue, donor pockets are not bottomless. So there's a separate and complicated debate about how much money Democrats should waste on causes that are probably lost. (Amy McGrath in Kentucky and Jaime Harrison in South Carolina in 2020 come to mind. Both sucked up tens of millions I think, and didn't come even remotely close to winning.) As far as Ron's pragmatism goes, I'm basing my statements on the fact that that he won re-election by about 60 % of the vote. And that seems to be because he is widely viewed as a competent, if conservative, Governor. I'm not basing that on ignorance. I'm basing it on polls. Here's one from 2019. Which, granted, was early days. But I'm including it since it is the only one I could find that has an ideological breakdown. His overall approval was 64 %. Among conservatives 82 %, moderates 62 %, liberals 37 %. Speaking as a liberal, those are not bad numbers for a conservative Governor. I'd actually be curious whether that has changed as DeSantis has been using his national platform to paint himself the way you described. Although I doubt most Florida conservatives, or even moderates - based on 2022 election results - view him as an extremist. My comments on Ron beating hurricanes were also based on polling, not ignorance. I don't live in Florida, so I can't ask my neighbors like you can. I cited it early in this thread. But this Fall 2022 poll was the most specific I could find about how Floridians feel about Ron's actual policies and performance as Governor. What jumped out at me is he had a massive 72 % approval rating on his handling of Hurricane Ian. A separate poll around the same time noted DeSantis had built a large lead over Crist, again citing "strong approval ratings, particularly for his response to Hurricane Ian." The second poll also added this quote about it: A Newsweek poll also noted that DeSantis got good (54 %) approval ratings from ALL Americans on Hurricane Ian. Although Americans overall didn't rate his response any better or worse than that of the (Biden) federal government. So my strong impression based on both polling and election results is that both moderate and conservative and even many liberal Floridians thought DeSantis was competent and pragmatic when it came to actual Governor stuff. Like dealing with a horrific hurricane. But check with your neighbors and let me know whether that is the most ignorant remark they've ever heard, too. 😉 The converse that is striking is that DeSantis doesn't seem to get high or even good approval ratings for any of the "extremist" or "authoritarian" behavior you went after. Which I agree with you about. That same USF poll that says he gets 72 % approval from Floridians for the hurricane says he gets 48 % approval for immigration and 43 % approval for climate change. The polls I've seen suggest a solid majority of Floridians, maybe up to 60 %, do not approve of the six week abortion ban. So if you want a truly ignorant remark, I will give you this: "Governor DeSantis is pushing a right wing culture war agenda hard, like six week abortion bans and going after Blacks on CRT and going after Gays on everything. He is doing this because it is wildly popular among Floridians." THAT would be a truly ignorant statement, based on lots of polls. Culture War Ron is NOT wildly popular among Floridians. Or among Americans. As several pundits just noted, right after he signed a six week abortion ban he went to a conservative venue and said nothing about a six week abortion ban. Is it ignorant to assume he knows the bill he signed is unpopular, both statewide and nationally? So I think you have actually confirmed my main point above. Again, the polls very strongly suggest most Floridians see DeSantis as a pragmatist who did a good job dealing with a horrible hurricane. Even though the same voters don't particularly approve of his views on climate change. Which many people would argue helped make the hurricane so horrific. Why is DeSantis going out of his way to do very unpopular (and, I personally agree, extreme) things, like six week abortion bans, in the run up to a likely Presidential race announcement? Is it too ignorant to think he feels like he has to play to the extremist, right wing MAGA base? And that if he just runs as a competent and compassionately conservative Governor (like W. did in 2000) it ain't gonna work with the base? Romneyite and Never Trumper Republican Stuart Stevens made a comment a few years ago that has stuck with me. He usually is measured in interviews. And doesn't come off as the crass political hack he probably is. But he said something about "compassionate conservatism" in a way that really rubbed me wrong. He said getting a Republican in a position to beat Gore in 2000 was "the whole point" of compassionate conservatism. He didn't say, "Look, asshole. We just fucking wanted to win. Get it? We're not compassionate. And we could give a flying fuck about what being compassionate to some poor Black slob on welfare would even look like. We just wanted to fucking win, okay?" Again, this is not what Stevens said. But in a candid interview, it's the way it came off to me. That was the Rove/Stevens/compassionate conservative playbook. The reason it's stuck is that DeSantis represents almost the opposite approach. Even more than Trump, it seems like he want's to come off as MAGA's culture warrior and bully - to liberal me, at least. Ignorant or not, I assume he has exceptional skills at sucking the cock of Trump. And, now, Trump supporters. Even Trump has said Ron sucked his cock really nicely, back in the day. When Ron was kind of a petty and needy whore, grubbing for endorsements. (Not to be blunt. But that makes DeSantis a lot like Gillum, as far as whoring goes. Speaking as a former whore myself.) So I have to assume that is why DeSantis wants to be a bully. It is how he thinks you win the Republican nomination in 2024. If you see it as authoritarianism and extremism, which you do, it only reinforces my view.

Pot, meet Kettle.

I know I'm on a rant. But it's fun to make fun of Tucker Carlson. In fairness, let me now take on Jon Stewart for a bit. There's been a few thoughtful "be careful what you ask for" pieces about Stewart's legendary Tucker take down. This Politico article is the most explicit about the point. It argues Stewart was wrong. In retrospect, even if it was crappy respectful political debate, at least with Crossfire we had respectful political debate. Until Stewart called Tucker a dick on TV. (Tucker does look like a dick, of course. But that's only after Stewart branded him as such.) But this Atlantic article, which is more a reflection on why Stewart is well past his expiration date, has a great one paragraph explanation of why Stewart was wrong: With all due respect to Barack Obama and Jon Stewart, I think it's too simple to blame either of them for creating conservative rage and drama. Even if they both did make two of the nicest conservatives in America look like total dicks in public. Trump and Carlson created themselves on their own. That said, you can also blame both of them on the right wing cesspool they were forced to simmer in for, well, decades. There's the time Tucker actually defended both The New York Times, and facts, at CPAC. Defending one of the two might have been forgivable. Defending truth and The Times? That's unforgivable. It's quant, in retrospect, that the audience merely scolded him. If they had that CPAC meeting today, in Florida, some sensible conservative with an AR-15 would have simply taken out Tucker's brain and spleen. You can now do that kind of thing, pretty much legally, in Ron's Florida. Just don't get raped and try not to have a baby. This is what decades of Tucker, with four years of Trumpism slathered all over it, have brought us to. What's my point? I think this is the official heads up that Tucker has reached his expiration date, too. Like Jon Stewart, he can and will still talk. I adored Stewart, and watched him daily, and laughed. I still do. People will watch Tucker and get outraged about the pussies and the Biden Crime Family running America. But it won't be the same. They really will all know that Tucker cheated on them. At least Jon Stewart didn't cheat on me. He gave birth to Trevor Noah, who I loved just as much. Even if both, in their own ways, helped put more nails in the coffin of respectful political debate.

If your heart's set on finding bottoms, I think you'll likely have your best results in the Saphan Kwai shops. Some shops post photos with "T" and "T&B" to help you identify bottoms. Don't hesitate to ask the mamasan (manager).

You can start here: https://www.utopia-asia.com/hkmasa.htm Click any links or sites that interest you on that page to see if the venue is still in operation. An additional Google search of those venues wouldn't hurt.

That's the way to travel! And, as you say, US roaming isn't always dependable in certain places.

You are assuming lots of things that were not certain. A jury trial is always a lottery.

Google Fi unlimited comes with free roaming around the world, there is no need to hunt for local sim cards. It makes my life simpler, especially when I hop around different countries and stay only for short periods of time. Anyway, this thread is about LINE, I guess you don't have any inputs?

Dual-SIM card phone. I always get a local SIM card and phone number for whatever country I'm in. Makes so many things so much easier.

I don't care 😝

Thanks for the negativity. I am not sure how you defined "primitive and inconvenient", but I use Google Fi unlimited, and I like it. How about you?

Come now. McCarthy barely costs anything. His main job as Trump's fluffer puts most people off buying him.

Since when do you use the word "keen" 😝

Not just mine....

@spoon Whilst Riobard's post indicates he is familar with Tawan - and the body type found there - I would be careful not to leave him with the impression that Arena, VCK, Jey Spa or Sabaidee have similar types. The odd guy at these places might come close to the bodybuilder or semi-body-builder look of Tawan, but generally speaking Tawan is in a class of its own. Most (on some days all) of the guys at those four places cannot hold a candle to Tawan's. If you want an idea of what's more typical at these four places, look at the body type displayed on Jupiter bar's Facebook page. I'm referring to the boys doing the catwalk in videos, not the boys selected for Jupiter's static ads, some of whom could be outside models hired for photoshoots. While I haven't done as many rounds of the Saphan Khwai places as some experts here, I believe Saphan Khwai is more a twink paradise.

For massage and sex, beefier guys are in places like arena, vck, jeyspa, sabaidee. There are beefy muscular guys in other massage places here and there, maybe one or two but the 4 i mentioned above seems to be carrying more guys like what u want

I agree with pretty much everything reader says, except that the places in Silom 6 are more legit massage oriented. If you want sex and not a massage then places like 15M are certainly the place to go. You aren't likely to get much of a massage. When I went to 15M my masseur was nude from the start and offered to fuck me pretty much right away. No need to take him to your hotel, just go to the shop. As noted they are easy to get to. I think they prefer that you order ahead but they will have some guys in the shop or some who are not too far away that you can choose by photo.

You already seem to have found some notable leads in your search. All of them can be easily reached by BTS and MRT. As for the Silom area where you're staying, you can simply walk around. You'll find many shops along Surawong and Silom roads. The largest concentration (six shops) is located on a short stretch of Siom Soi 6 just off Silom road after passing Bangkok Christian Hospital. My personal preference is to patronize the shops where you can view the masseurs in person. Most shops will offer clients the option of offing a masseur for an extra fee. But for the first experience with a guy of your choice I'd stick with an in-shop massage. Prices are reasonable. Some shops (especially in the outer districts like Saphan Kwai) display photos on line or by email request. And you can always use the site's search engine for more ideas.

From Pattaya Mail By Barry Kenyon Marine Disco at the height of its popularity. Marine Disco, which has graced Pattaya’s Walking Street for over 30 years, has finally bitten the dust according to reports by reliable gogo gurus Stickman’s Weekly Column and Dave the Rave. One of the largest music clubs on the strip, Marine Disco (pronounced Mal-ee in Thai) first opened during the 1970s Vietnam war and attracted large numbers of American servicemen on rest and recreation vacations. Some say the original location was in a different Pattaya venue. Marine Disco’s success continued into the 1990s as Walking Street appealed to newer markets of night owl travellers from Britain, mainland Europe and Australia. Columnist of the era, Bernard Trink, is believed to have coined the phrase “chicken farm” for the disco. But he was apparently describing the naive and hungry foreign customers rather than the smiling ladies on the dance floor or circulating round the seven billiard tables which were an unusual feature of the huge layout. In more recent years, Marine Disco began to lose popularity. Some said the location at the top of an escalator was a safety concern in case of fire, whilst others commented third gender persons had become too dominant under the flashing lights. But the key factor was likely the classy competition from neighboring clubs which have become more flashy and hi-tech with cream-of-the-crop DJs. The club even ceased to keep its Facebook page up to date. In the post-Covid environment, the foreign clientele of Walking Street also appears to be changing. In 2023, it appears to appeal mostly to Asian vacationers whilst the traditional customers such as holiday Brits are congregating on Soi Buakhao and Soi L.K.Metro in a different area of the city. The consequences of the awesome pandemic for evening entertainment in Pattaya are still unfolding.

Many GPs are indeed straight, but claim to be bi-sexual. One GP told me he is undecided. I just said, you are 26 years old and still undecided? LOL.

@floridarob ok I guess you were right 😂 I am going back next week but only to Sao Paulo for a week. I miss the Brazilian men. So hot, I could melt in their arms. I am such a whore but i'll probably celibate for a couple of months after this 🤣🤣

Sex tourism is alive and well in Mexico, all parts of Mexico ... small villages and big cities, and frequently at times and in places where you would least expect it. It can be impulsive on the part of the local, and 'time is of the essence'. Let the opportunity pass you by and it's your loss! But, yes, our opportunities for sexual recreation is unequaled, in Rio. I don't often see online GPs in Mexico City I'm attracted to. I prefer cruising the 'street scene' more than I do perusing the professionals. I'm about to turn 74, my cancerous prostate was removed ... and my sex drive and abilities are different today than they were 40 or 50 years ago when I had all my parts. I'm resigned to my 'facts of life' and I have solace that during the first 60 years of my life my sex life was ... outstanding. BKK, Rio, Moscow, Marrakech, London, Dublin, Tokyo, Paris, Cannes, Bejing, Hong Kong, etc., I fucked and sucked my way around the world. I'm blessed to still maintain friendships with individuals going back 65 years, or less ... and there's no sex that'll satisfy me more.

This photo from The Nation shows how the police managed to keep Silom Rd. open during Songkran by fencing off the traffic lane closes to sidewalk for use by pedestrians.

The usual expressions in straight bar girl culture are ST, LT and LLT. Having a Thai bar "girlfriend" experience becomes LLLT.

I remember sitting in Lagoa one Easter with a friend I met from the board.....he said we should have brought checkers or scrabble with us so we had something to do , lol

Not really, though it's true that knowing Mandarin might lead sometimes to a higher success rate cause if you start a conversation in local language the guy might be less shy. Overall, It's mostly a game of glances and touches. If there is a match most guys know top or bottom, or you can just use hands to mimic 1(top) or 0(bottom) as these are the terms used in some Asian countries to refer to the sexual position. Sometimes guys starts speaking and explaining themselves in Mandarin when they don't want to go with you, so I guess knowing the language helps learning why you are getting refused 😄

Just for info, the weather in Hong Kong in August is foul - excessively hot and as humid as it can get. It's also bang in the middle of typhoon season. Mind you, Taipei in that month is virtually the same. Taiwan in April should be lovely!

I remembered taking a taxi for the first time alone after having dinner with 2 guys from Meio Mundo at Lapa some time ago. The taxi driver must have seen the guys I was with and motioned me to sit in front and so I did. Then he suddenly grabbed my hand and put in on this now exposed big black hard dick. It caught me by surprised and I retracted my hand. He said, nao? Still recovering from my shock, I just shake my head. Rode back to my hotel in silence. That was a weird 'encounter' Now thinking back, he was kinda good looking. Fit mature black dude with massive dick and hindsight I should have got out of the taxi. So ya, I now use Uber. The only taxi I take now is from the muscular taxi driver from 202. He let me play with his dick while driving me back to my hotel 🤣

Yes, It never hurts to ask. These guys work in the shops for one reason: to make money, regardless of their sexuality. Be respectful and flexible. That’s the best approach to a good massage experience.

This is one of many proofs that debunk all religious written word. Even if there WERE a god," it" would NEVER, EVER tell a man to write down in some magical book that you must cut off the tip of a boy's dick. It is ludicrous to entertain that thought. Circumcision is brutal, genital mutilation and it should be stopped globally immediately. While I respect the right to book-based faith, I also feel obligated to point out how ridiculous and human-made it is.

imo, i prefer those age around 30 yrs +. just i like mature look guys. few of the boys maintain their muscular. some just lack of shape. yea, its true, they are straight, become gay for pay. however, i don't mind, as long as, they are good on beds.

then go and let us know what you saw in Tawan