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I agree with pretty much everything reader says, except that the places in Silom 6 are more legit massage oriented. If you want sex and not a massage then places like 15M are certainly the place to go. You aren't likely to get much of a massage. When I went to 15M my masseur was nude from the start and offered to fuck me pretty much right away. No need to take him to your hotel, just go to the shop. As noted they are easy to get to. I think they prefer that you order ahead but they will have some guys in the shop or some who are not too far away that you can choose by photo.

You already seem to have found some notable leads in your search. All of them can be easily reached by BTS and MRT. As for the Silom area where you're staying, you can simply walk around. You'll find many shops along Surawong and Silom roads. The largest concentration (six shops) is located on a short stretch of Siom Soi 6 just off Silom road after passing Bangkok Christian Hospital. My personal preference is to patronize the shops where you can view the masseurs in person. Most shops will offer clients the option of offing a masseur for an extra fee. But for the first experience with a guy of your choice I'd stick with an in-shop massage. Prices are reasonable. Some shops (especially in the outer districts like Saphan Kwai) display photos on line or by email request. And you can always use the site's search engine for more ideas.

This was civil litigation - not criminal - and Dominion won what it sought. Dominion's responsibility is to its stakeholders and it successfully defended the company's integrity and reputation. Nothing is going to change the minds of FOX viewers, or Mr. Trump's supporters.

From Richard Barrow Thai Train Guide If you are a seasoned rail traveler, you probably already know that you can pick up paper railway timetables for free at the information counter at most stations. However, there are now alternative ways of checking the timetables. You have a choice of checking online on the official website or by downloading the SRT Timetable Application for your smartphone [App Store] or [Google Play]. You not only get to see the times for the trains for each stop, but there is more information such as pictures of the seats in the carriages and also prices for each class. UPDATED: I also have copies of the printed version of the timetables released by the State Railway of Thailand in February 2023. Please note, other than the first train, only the arrival train times are shown. Some trains will stop only a minute or two at each station, but you might find that at some stations, the departure time might be ten minutes or more after the shown arrival time. SRT Timetables for Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Terminal: Northern Line | Southern Line | Northeastern Line | Red Line | Red Line (Taling Chan) | Red Line (Rangsit) SRT Timetables for Bangkok Railway Station (Hua Lamphong): Northern Line | Southern Line | Northeastern Line | Eastern Line | Commuter Line | Nakhon Pathom Commuter Line | Other SRT Timetables: Maeklong Line NEW: You can also download a PDF of all of these timetables:. https://www.thaitrainguide.com/timetables/

Come now. McCarthy barely costs anything. His main job as Trump's fluffer puts most people off buying him.

@spoon Whilst Riobard's post indicates he is familar with Tawan - and the body type found there - I would be careful not to leave him with the impression that Arena, VCK, Jey Spa or Sabaidee have similar types. The odd guy at these places might come close to the bodybuilder or semi-body-builder look of Tawan, but generally speaking Tawan is in a class of its own. Most (on some days all) of the guys at those four places cannot hold a candle to Tawan's. If you want an idea of what's more typical at these four places, look at the body type displayed on Jupiter bar's Facebook page. I'm referring to the boys doing the catwalk in videos, not the boys selected for Jupiter's static ads, some of whom could be outside models hired for photoshoots. While I haven't done as many rounds of the Saphan Khwai places as some experts here, I believe Saphan Khwai is more a twink paradise.

Who’s the weirdo obsessively posting downvotes for every post made by a board member he doesn’t like simply because he has evidently decided he doesn’t like the poster? I would also be scratching my head regarding anybody that needs or wants this clown in their corner of the octagon. The ring is 18+, one would hope. Just a thought. With apologies to the topic OP.

I wouldn't be so sure. 21% of Fox News Viewers Trust Network Less After Texts Revealed in Dominion Lawsuit: Survey VIP+ Analysis: Exclusive data reveals how private messages from Carlson, Murdoch impacted audience opinions about election fraud. I briefly referenced and hyperlinked that poll in a post above. But in this post I'll focus on it. There's a few interesting things in there. As the headline says, presumably 1 in 5 Fox viewers trust what Fox says less thanks to Tucker's cheating on his viewers. It's also interesting that, whereas a plurality of 42 % of all adults don't trust Fox (compared to 16 % of all adults who do), even 10 % of Fox viewers say they don't trust Fox. I can buy that. I would not call myself a regular Fox News viewer. But when something big happens, like Trump's indictment or any big election, I watch the opinion talking heads like Tucker and Sean and Laura enough to get the Murdoch spin. Even though I don't trust it. And then some of them, like Brett Baier, I think are just good reporters who I'd watch anyway. It helps me that I have several family members who are moderate to hard core Trump supporters. At least one of whom is also a pretty devoted Tucker fan, as far as I can tell. What's helpful is that instead of stereotyping "these people" as ignorant fanatics, I can think of it in terms of, for example, a niece I love. Far from being ignorant, she's a well educated corporate executive. That said, it surprised me that in addition to calling Gov. DeWine, a RINO, she did not know he was running for re-election last year. Which was interesting, since she lives in Ohio. If I were her, I'd like Republican Governors like DeWine or Kasich. They governed well enough, and reached to the center enough, to win re-election in landslides. It fits with this MO that several times I sang the praises of Tim Scott as the kind of Black conservative Republican who could build a winning Presidential coalition based on a sunny Reaganite message, I think. Her reply, several times, has been "What do you think of Candace Owens?" So, on the one hand, the vibe I get is that she likes Tucker and Candace because she likes in your face flame throwers who take on left wing "pussies." (Her word, not mine.) But I know she's a critical thinker. And I'm pretty sure she would notice that what Tucker says in private makes him seem like a hypocrite, in it for the power or money or ego. Once in a while - like when her more conservative hubby suggests they have to get completely out of their mutual fund because the Biden Crime Family is going to force mutual funds to invest in red China - she openly expresses doubt about what I personally view as some of the nuttier right wing ideas flying around social media. Which her hubby consistently works himself into a lather about. So my guess is she'd be a candidate to be in the 21 % who feels less trusting after finding out about Tucker cheating on her. Not that Tucker isn't a great guy, and all. What I find most helpful about these kinds of personal interactions, which I am fully aware I am interpreting based on my own liberal biases, is that it helps explain why 2024 is likely going to be a shit show for Republicans. I think she probably is like a lot of Fox News viewers. She seems to be less interested in what a DeWine or Kasich might do to engineer a Republican landslide in a state like Ohio. And more interested in how Fox owns libs, and fights pussies. Not to mention the Biden Crime Family. It's probably a recipe for Republicans losing more seats they could win in 2024, just like in 2022 and 2020. And Fox and Tucker are in large part the architects of that. Even if it because they have to suck Trump's cock, which Tucker turns out to hate passionately. Poor guy. Which makes you wonder whether Murdoch is the horse, or the cart being led by what he has to do to keep appeasing his viewers. Either way, I wouldn't bet on that horse to win.

Stereotyping? What stereotyping? Me, I’m confused about the Amtrak 1st class lounge act. FullSizeRender.MOV

Whether he is GAY is sketchy, but there is no doubt he's a RACIST PIG !

Yeah..... not the impression that you give 🤨

yes, but still way too late

Good thing is, other than tawan or arena, the other 3 places does publish their line up in their line accounts. So u can do your research well before u are there.

If your heart's set on finding bottoms, I think you'll likely have your best results in the Saphan Kwai shops. Some shops post photos with "T" and "T&B" to help you identify bottoms. Don't hesitate to ask the mamasan (manager).

I have two Google Fi numbers and Google Pixel phones. I love them. The roaming abroad is great but not always consistent. For example, I'd had issues with getting SMS's at times as well. I do have a Thai number in one Pixel as well and use the phone as dual Sim.

Google Fi unlimited comes with free roaming around the world, there is no need to hunt for local sim cards. It makes my life simpler, especially when I hop around different countries and stay only for short periods of time. Anyway, this thread is about LINE, I guess you don't have any inputs?

Thanks. I spent a few minutes researching after coming home from the gym. I have some good purchased guidebooks. Counterintuitively, train may be the least viable. I might take a bus on DIY basis or maybe even a group tour. Commercial sex is not my agenda for such an excursion. It’s just to take in something farther afield from Bangkok. There appears to be a good half dozen options, as antidote to sensory overload, within 100 miles.

Dual-SIM card phone. I always get a local SIM card and phone number for whatever country I'm in. Makes so many things so much easier.

Thanks for the negativity. I am not sure how you defined "primitive and inconvenient", but I use Google Fi unlimited, and I like it. How about you?

Fox News pulls in $2.79 billion per year, so the Dominion hit will be made made within a years time.... No biggie for Fox, and no incentive for them to stop lying to their viewers. How perfectly humiliating it would have been to have their anchors "grovel" to America and admit the TRUTH ? For me, an admission of falsehood by Fox for the countries perception would have far superseded the financial win for Dominion, but I suppose to Dominion the $$was the greater of the victories and benefited them most ? I dont think this was a learning experience for Fox ? they can continue their lying and misinformation campaigns, and every few years they will have to write a check to someone.... No big whoop to continue running a successful and highly profitable business of SHAM...... Their base wants to hears lies and Fox is more than beholding to provide them with those. Lets see if Smartmatic caves before the party gets started ? My instinct is they will also settle before a trial.

your way of saying you're vers?

Everything I write makes sense. I thought you knew that!

I had no idea what you were talking about until I read that Covid post 😷

NEW YORK (The Borowitz Report) Reeling from its punishing settlement agreement with Dominion Voting Systems, a newly cash-strapped Fox News Channel has been forced to sell Representative Kevin McCarthy. Rupert Murdoch, who acquired the Speaker of the House just two months ago, expressed sadness that new financial realities had necessitated the sale. “I wish Kevin well,” the Fox owner said. “I hope whoever buys him finds as much use for him as I did.” Even as many in Washington expressed skepticism about the House Speaker’s market value, Murdoch’s plans to sell McCarthy faced a significant roadblock in the form of the Georgia congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene. “I have no idea why Fox thinks they can sell Kevin McCarthy,” she told reporters. “I own Kevin.”

Seems to me that their fuel is hate, not love. They hate their opponents more than they love themselves and their supporters. Sad!

For massage and sex, beefier guys are in places like arena, vck, jeyspa, sabaidee. There are beefy muscular guys in other massage places here and there, maybe one or two but the 4 i mentioned above seems to be carrying more guys like what u want

While @Mavica points out that I am bothered by many things, and rightly so, since our govt is so incredible flawed and corrupt politicians are living off our "dime", it just would have been so incredibly entertaining to watch Tucker and the other Fox hosts squirm while telling their fans that they are LIARS and they intentionally duped them to get them to keep watching the show. Even Jeannine Piro "screaming" that at the camera would have been a must-see moment. But as long as @Mavica is pleased with the outcome, thats all that really matters. 😏👎

Has anyone been fortunate enough to experience the traditional ceremonies for Songkran, still practised in many areas of the country? I find the visits to elderly relatives, the sprinkling of water and the delight that is visible on the faces of the recipients touching....if only we showed similar respect here in the UK.

Fox resolves Dominion case, but a bigger election defamation lawsuit looms (Reuters) - Fox News on Tuesday disposed of one legal threat with its $787.5 million defamation settlement with Dominion Voting Systems, but the network still faces a $2.7 billion lawsuit from another voting technology company over its coverage of debunked election-rigging claims. Dominion accused Fox and its parent company Fox Corp of ruining its business by airing claims that its machines were used to rig the 2020 U.S. presidential election in favor of Democrat Joe Biden and against then-president Donald Trump, a Republican. Fox and its parent company Fox Corp averted a six-week trial in Delaware Superior Court with the deal, which is half of the $1.6 billion Dominion sought but still by far the largest ever defamation settlement publicly announced by an American media company, according to legal experts. Fox, one of the most influential cable networks in the world and home to many conservative commentators, acknowledged in a statement Tuesday that the judge found “certain claims about Dominion to be false” and said it hopes the deal helps the country “move forward with these issues.” But Fox’s lawyers will stay busy navigating the legal fallout of the network’s 2020 election coverage with a potentially far more damaging defamation lawsuit by voting technology company Smartmatic, as well as a separate but related lawsuit by a recently fired producer. Fox representatives referred Reuters to prior statements on the cases. The network has firmly denied the allegations in both cases. It is unclear if Fox’s deal with Dominion indicates it is willing to settle with Smartmatic, but experts who are not part of the litigation suggested it could help kickstart talks. “Smartmatic now has a bargaining chip, and Fox has shown it is willing to take out its checkbook and write a big check,” said University of Tennessee, Knoxville media law professor Stuart Brotman. “From Fox’s standpoint, now that they realize they can get a successful settlement, they have a basis for a real discussion with Smartmatic.” Smartmatic is seeking $2.7 billion in damages from Fox and five individuals, including former Trump lawyers and hosts. Smartmatic alleges in its lawsuit in New York County Supreme Court that the defendants knowingly spread false claims that its software was used to flip votes. Conspiracy theorists erroneously claimed Smartmatic owned Dominion, and the companies mounted similar allegations in their lawsuits. Smartmatic attorney J. Erik Connolly said in a statement Tuesday the company is committed to clearing its name, recouping the damage done to it and “holding Fox accountable for undermining democracy.” Fox denies the allegations, saying in a recent statement the network had a right to report on highly newsworthy allegations of voter fraud. It has also called Smartmatic’s damages claims “outrageous, unsupported, and not rooted in sound financial analysis.” Fox was recently dealt a setback in the case after an appeals court declined to toss it, finding Smartmatic alleged in “detailed fashion” how Fox “effectively endorsed and participated” in defamation. Meanwhile, Fox has given no public indication that it is interested in settling the lawsuit by the former producer, Abby Grossberg, whose lawyers said in a statement Tuesday they are seeking “meaningful institutional changes at Fox News.” Any such changes were absent from the public announcement of the Dominion settlement and could potentially be a major sticking point in any negotiations, legal experts said. Grossberg alleges she was exposed to sexism at Fox and unjustly fired after she objected to what she claims were efforts to pressure her into giving misleading testimony in the Dominion case. Fox has said the allegations are “baseless” and were immediately investigated by outside lawyers. The network also says it will “vigorously” defend itself against all of Grossberg’s claims. Reporting by Jack Queen; editing by Amy Stevens and Lincoln Feast

From The Nation BANGKOK (The Nation/Asia News Network): Leading virologist Dr Yong Poovorawan warned that a new wave of Covid-19 has emerged in Thailand after the Songkran festival. Leading virologist Dr Yong Poovorawan warned on Tuesday (April 18) that a new wave of Covid-19 has emerged after the Songkran festival. Yong, who heads the Centre of Excellence at Chulalongkorn University, stressed the need to curb a resurgence of Covid, adding that it may come in the form of a new and more elusive variant. He said the new wave is expected to accelerate from mid-May before peaking in June and then declining in September, in line with seasonal patterns of respiratory diseases. Ten things to know about the new wave of Covid-19: 1. The latest outbreak is being driven partly by students after schools reopened, echoing an outbreak at the same time last year, he added. 2. The Covid virus strain has also undergone changes, Yong reported. A study of Covid variants in Thailand by the centre shows that Omicron BA.2.75 was overtaken as the dominant strain by XBB.1.5 (Kraken) in March. 3. However, the new and more transmissible XBB.1.16 strain, nicknamed Arcturus, will soon be responsible for most infections in Thailand. Arcturus infections are currently surging in India and at least 20 other countries. This strain spreads about 1.2 times faster than Kraken so will almost inevitably become dominant in Thailand. 4. Arcturus is believed to be no more lethal than previous strains of Covid-19. 5. Arcturus may cause slightly different symptoms – including conjunctivitis (red, sticky eyes) in children. It has one additional mutation in the spike protein, which increases the rate at which it spreads. 6. Care and treatment remains the same, with precautions urged for high-risk groups and children under two years of age. 7. Vaccines and resistance: All XBB strains including Arcturus are able to evade immunity given by vaccines. 8. However, vaccines still reduce the risk of severe symptoms or death from Arcturus. Long-acting antibody (LAAB) treatment is not effective in preventing XBB infections. 9. Booster shots to protect against Arcturus and other strains are recommended, especially for senior citizens and people with low immunity who received their last vaccine shot more than six months ago. Pregnant women should also get a booster. Covid vaccines will be allocated in a similar way to seasonal flu vaccines – before the rainy season and to combat rapid spread of infections. 10. The main Covid preventive measures remain the same. Hygiene and sanitation guidelines are still in place, including regular handwashing and mask-wearing in crowded areas. Covid- infected students should remain at home, and anyone infected with Covid should wear a face mask.

Agree. An apology that's not sincere is worthless to me. But I would love a big pile of U.S. dollars.

I mostly agree. If you mean dedicated (or fanatical) FOX viewers, or Trump supporters, I would definitely agree. But I think what Dominion actually got, beyond the important things you noted - money and protecting their own brand - was better than an apology. I'm not sure how you get that out of your mind. Even if you like Tucker. It's a little bit like leaning your husband fucked the housekeeper. Maria Shriver probably isn't the only woman that would leave a marriage over that. But even viewers who stay in the marriage with Tucker will always know there was a certain infidelity. I suspect Tucker's sway has peaked, and he's now on the way down. Much like Donald. But a bunch of Independents have clearly been figuring it out on their own. I loved this article about how Democrats should just shut the fuck up, focus on getting shit done, and let Republicans have their shit show. I think the same principle applies to Fox, and Tucker. Tucker has a beautiful head of hair. Why not let him keep setting it on fire? Nor does it end well for Fox. Even though @Mavica is correct that a dedicated core of Fox/Trump supporters will circle the wagons. Just like when the Senate censured Joe McCarthy. McCarthy lost that fight overwhelmingly. Despite the fact that he had half the Republicans on his side. When you look at the 2020 election, the 2022 election, and the polls, it's been very consistent. Independents view this stuff like nails on the chalkboard. But don't just take my word for it. Let's check with the fake media, and fake polls: So I'm with Trippi. I don't think this ends well for Republicans. Or Tucker. Poor thing.

I remember his MSNBC show “Tucker” about 15-20 years ago where at each closing he was shamelessly flirting with Willie Geist

I had friends from Vietnam here in Bangkok. It may well be different up country but the use of mega-water guns here was common as was throwing buckets of ice-cold water over strangers. Hardly 'touching'!

Quite an achievement to stay in business for over 30 years. Few nightspots have lasted that long. I can’t think of a gay bar/gogo. Krazy Dragon in Sunee lasted a long time but is now only a memory.

WILMINGTON, DELAWARE (The Borowitz Report) Fox News Channel’s much anticipated defamation trial was unexpectedly delayed after the network’s anchors required five hours to have their makeup done. Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity, both expected to testify during the proceedings, were behind closed doors having what was described as “several substantial coats” of foundation, bronzer, and blush slathered onto their faces. Judge Eric Davis called the delay “unacceptable,” reminding Fox’s attorneys that the trial was not even being televised. But Dan Webb, Fox’s lead attorney, argued that, without their makeup, “Mr. Hannity and Mr. Carlson would be totally unrecognizable to the jury.” The trial suffered yet another delay when the anchors finally entered the courtroom and three jurors passed out from hair-spray fumes.

I would expect such a dismissive response about cultural differences in sexual identity from an aging white American snap queen. That train is never late. it’s so on brand for Western culture to believe that their identity is the only one that matters.

Sexual identity labels — like racial identity — are primarily an American / Western thing. Those who want to die on the hill of fitting everyone into nice, neat labeled packages will miss out on a whole world of opportunity outside of the USA.

It's a small, stinky bar with dark rooms where you can hookup on the spot. It's not a GP bar. Did I mention stinky?

Friendships are important.... Scott wouldn't know about that, he only treats his MB's like objects 🙄

They might believe that tourists eat more (or waste food) than locals. If we don’t like it, we could take our business elsewhere. I think that the cardinal mistake is calling it a local/Thai vs. farang/tourist price. People might not mind it as much if the price was presented as regular and discount (for locals, seniors, military, etc.)

The UK is at the ridiculous end of the scale....

I would qualify that statement pretty heavily. I vacation each year in Cape Town in their Summer and have done so for many years. As an openly gay man, I’ve visited with my partner, and previously with boyfriends and before that as a single man. Being openly gay is certainly accepted in smart hotels, restaurants etc because of the economic importance of tourism. Also there is constitutional protection. Social acceptance is another matter, and you almost never see PDA. There has been a marked decline in venues or public spaces for gay sex over the last 15-18 years (no male brothels, no rentboys on the Sea Point promenade at night, fewer nudist beaches and cruising, only 1 gay bar surviving) and the rate of violent crime has increased steadily. As an older white man, my experience is that 2 gay white men may be viewed well for their spending power but locals have told me of the great difficulties 2 gay men or lesbians of colour will face and sometimes the violence that threatens their relationships. Of course, as a visitor on vacation, you will have a great time. It is a wonderful country with resilient people and magnificent landscape.

Sure, I hope you are decided by now at your age. LOL.

Well, these places are private businesses. They can do as they want, can't they? Your "principles" (ethics? morals?) might be different from theirs. Welcome to the world of international travel and cultural/social differences! 🌏

You're privileged to be able to live in or visit their country for sex holidays. I wouldn't complain about US$6.

Many GPs are indeed straight, but claim to be bi-sexual. One GP told me he is undecided. I just said, you are 26 years old and still undecided? LOL.

That's your opinion. But fortunately I don't live my life based on your opinion.

I sense you're projecting your goals rather than understanding what Dominion's civil lawsuit goals were vs. FOX. Dominion got what it sought. Period. Dominion and others claiming defamation and harm to their financial interests have filed civil actions against other "news" organizations and individusls. FOX faces at least one similar lawsuit. Nobody can convince me that an "Independent" voter watches FOX. FOX viewers are hard-core partisans; extremist in their anti-America beliefs. Dominion won. The pre-trial discovery documents prove the lack of honesty and integrity of the entire FOX organization. I get the feeling you're attempting to snatch failure from the jaws of victory. Let it go. Move on to the next issue bothering you.