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must be all those snow capped mountains

Can you explain this: Why do you go to Thailand if you don’t like Thai boys?

Somebody needs to tell the Thai Meteorological Department that their alarmist messaging is caring away tourists. I'm sure they will then announce a "smart heat index" - which is the temperature one experiences inside one of the country's massive shopping malls... where the smart part of the population is anyway.😛

That may have been me! It is really steaming hot and humid. Even in Jupiter their industrial aircon can’t make it chilly! And they had something else different - a very energetic, exotic and entertaining burlesque type dancer as part of their show expect a lot of my daytime will be spent sheltering inside, even the evenings it hits you - that hot air oven type feel just need the water fights now to cool down…… other observations, bangkok really is back to ‘normal’. this is third post covid visit and the first where if you hadn’t been told you might not know anything much had even happened. Pretty much everything is open and flourishing. Looks like both Screwboys and the ‘new’ Queens will also soon be welcoming patrons just had big night out in fake club with Thai friends, still my favourite for a more local and club like night out experience. Only saw one other westerner in whole place, but definitely a lot more women and girls now attending. Maybe 25%. Adds to the inclusivity.

There's an interesting article in today's UK Observer newspaper with today's writers informing readers of lesser-known books about gay life that deserve to be classics. So it's not discussing the James Baldwins or Alan Holingshursts. I won't list them here as it's easy to see them headlined in the article. I will just quote a few lines from near the start. "Arriving in London in the last few months of the 1980s, I discovered that there were more than a few hundred of us and that books still had a potent force. Shared among gay friends, we could celebrate our growing confidence and visibility with new work from Alan Hollinghurst and Jeanette Winterson, develop a camp sensibility by quoting to each other lines from EF Benson and Ronald Firbank, imagine that London could become the queer Arcadia depicted in Armistead Maupin’s Tales of the City." https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/apr/09/lgbtq-lost-classics-books-chosen-by-authors It made me think about the books which helped me realise that I was not one of a few feeling he was gay. One of the first i read was a classic of its time and I see from amazon that it remains in publication today. Written by the late French diplomat Roger Peyrefitte, Special Friendships was the English translation published in 1958 of his 1944 novel Les Amities particulieres. It is set in a French religious public (private) school for boys, outlines his own homoerotic experiences and deals specifically with the crush/love of two boys for each other. The New York Review of Books wrote in its review, "Schoolboy passions have seldom been described with such delicate sympathy and understanding." Regarded by many as scandalous, Andre Gide congratulated Peyrefitte on its publication. It was assumed to be autobiographical although it seems Peyrefitte did not acknoweldge his own homosexuality until he was posted as Secretary to the French Embassy in Athens in his early 30s. After Les Amities particulieres Peyrefitte continued to be regarded as an iconoclast when he published in 1955 Les Clefs de Saint Pierre - printed in English in 1957 as The Keys of St. Peter - which was regarded as "lewd and libellous" and was prosecuted for obscenity in Italy. Hugely popular in France, it attacked Pope Pius XII in particular and the Catholic Church in general. A secondary theme is the realisation of a young seminarist that he has fallen in love with another man. In articles written some years later, Peyrefitte accused Pope Pius of being a closet homosexual and having chosen for his Papal name his lover's first name. This reached the eyes of Pius who in an address in St. Peter's Square complained about the "horrible and slanderous insinuations" being said about him!

I've been busy chuck-wowing all the guys at Niceboys every night. They are all straight and 4 I know of are married with kids. Despite that, they have no trouble getting it up, albeit with the aid of porn on their phones. I get a nice hug and a kiss and a cuddle after the event. I don't know how they do it, but I don't care.

The usual expressions in straight bar girl culture are ST, LT and LLT. Having a Thai bar "girlfriend" experience becomes LLLT.

I guess that eliminates the Thais who have to work outdoors to make a living from the "smart" part of population.

I have a brief interview process....3 quick questions: Mooks, silicone, POWER? if it's no, no, YES.....if he's my type, it's a go ....been down that road too many times to find out later.....one I'll be adding is anal warts 😬

I'm not in Bangkok now so I am not speaking with any personal experience. But, intrigued by the OP, I looked up weather sites and they seem to be saying Bangkok's maximum is around 36 or 37 degrees Celcius with 60 - 70 percent humidity. This maximum temperature is not unusual for this time of year, though I agree it is not pleasant in the least. As for the humidity, I have no recollection of "normal" from previous years, so I can't say. I know the OP referred to "heat index" which is some combination of temperature and humidity to simulate what the body feels, but it does seem a little alarmist to speak of 45 degrees. I have experienced (in Thailand) temperatures up to nearly 40 degrees, though with lower humidity, in Chiang Mai, Isaan and Sukothai, and 35 or 36 degrees in Bangkok. Indeed one needed to take precautions such as a hat and lots of water, and I would programme my days to avoid having to go out during the hottest 4 - 6 hours of the day, but I still managed enjoyable visits. Partly, aclimatisation helps - new arrivals from temperate countries may suffer the most - but it is also important to jettison farang habits like walking in the sun or sitting out on the sidewalk and do as the Thais do. I suspect weight issues also "weigh in" - though this may not be the politically correct thing to say.

Maybe the explanation is more simple most of the guys are straight and some just can't get erection with male customers...

I agree with you , at least some boys will find it adequate. More popular who can pull offs more often may not be so keen. All those perks you listed are nice to have but based on my experience very few guys will consider them actual substitute for cold cash . One of my guys , still in the business, was nagging me to buy him some fancy shoes for almost 4000. I liked boy but did not like shoes neither to spent that much on them but liking boy I finally gave up and off to Silom Center we went. But in moment of enlightenment I asked him if he wants those shoes or 2000 cash. He opted for cash immediately

or they noticed that better tip makes for better service ? If guy agrees in LT for 1500 it's guaranteed that around 2 am he will start making excuses to leave ( his roommate forgot key, his motorbike is parked in wrong spot, he is hungry and needs to go to Tukcom to eat, or just got message his grandmother was taken to hospital - all from my collection. )

they won't, they will go higher is my feeling but you can always reduce your costs by discovering charms of economy class

Even if it's just superstition I still prefer natural erection , not rubber supported , so in this case I was willing listener

Brazil is now 150-200 See in forum

Fly to Saigon. Open Blued on your phone. There are hundreds. Just sit and wait for the messages. The only problem is it drains your phone battery. 800k to 1mil VND. They wont be bar boys. Just local guys with day jobs topping up their income. Last April (the first week Vietnam opened it's bordered post covid) I had this construction worker turn up. He was in a bad way. 20 years old, but dirty. One of his flip flops was broken. His jeans were finished. Through Google Translate he told me he had been living on building sites for 18 months. We didn't do much, but I enjoyed his amazing physic. We went the the market after. Got him new gear. ($45 at most). He only asked my for 500k to meet. I gave him 2mil, and he cried. We are still talking now, and I can't wait to go back to Saigon! I'm not sure why you guys want to pay 5000 Baht for some Silom guy to give you the Starfish experience. Venture further and have some adventure.

Very wealthy and hedonistic Arabs from all over the Middle East visit Istanbul (and elsewhere in Turkey) to enjoy what's almost impossible to find in their own countries.

Yes it happened to me too they copied not only my passport but also my Colombian boyfriend ID . In my country they don't even bother to request my ID only to show the credit card I used for paying the room.

Not me I usually get close plus/minus 3 years of the boy real age , however I agree with you many Thai boys look younger than their age and are in a great shape.

and 1500 euros for overnight, attractive but not THAT attractive in my opinion

I always doubt how straight are " straight " guys who go with male customers and in my 27 trips I met perhaps no more than 5 of those who couldn't get it and even those with my helping hand shaped up quite fast although not necessarily for long but long enough

I am a bit surprised about this, for a gay man who reads so much about LGBTQ stories around the world, that you had not encountered the word that is used to describe the opposite of transgender before. Your mind is gonna be blown away when you discover non-binary people. No hate, tho, it is only now that these old concepts (i mean old in gender studies) are making their way into popular culture.

We need a better name for 24/7 LT. I suggest “multi-day” ST short time hire (1 to 3 hours) LT long time hire (8 to 12 hours) MD multi-day hire (48 hours or anything more than that)

300 Euros an hour 😬

Melody in Prague is now X Bar: https://xbarprague.cz/

I did have fun. Even in Paragonya but it was a struck of luck. If it wasn’t because a hot Brazilian boy I met I may have to had to leave Paragonya without any encounter. and most of the Hunqz/RentMen in Zurich weren’t responsive. I am pretty sure it is a hit or a miss so I will give it another try but not in the near future. I would love to explore new locations in Europe.

From Associated Press More than 60 asylum-seeking members of a Chinese Christian church who were detained last week in Thailand are en route to the United States, a religious freedom advocate who has been aiding them said Friday. A colonel in Thailand’s police immigration division confirmed that the group left Thailand on Thursday night. He spoke on condition of anonymity because he is not his agency’s spokesperson. Thai police on Wednesday said the 63 members of the Shenzhen Holy Reformed Church, also known as the Mayflower Church, would be deported within a week, likely to a third country. The U.S. Embassy has declined comment on the fate of the group but was involved along with representatives of the U.N. Refugee Agency in talks with Thai officials about the matter. The church members, who have been in Thailand since last September, were arrested last week in the seaside city of Pattaya for overstaying their visas, fined, and then taken to Bangkok, where they were detained in immigration facilities. Prior to their arrival in Thailand, the Mayflower Church members fled to South Korea’s Jeju island in October 2019 and stayed there for nearly three years. They decided to leave after it became clear that prospects for refuge there were dim.

Congratulations are in order. You succeeded. 😛 Now if you'd made the hi-so the butt of your jokes, I'd join you in a good laugh.

I had thought of that actually, but it would have spoilt my joke. So I decided, mea culpa, to be a snob for the sake of a joke. 😛

Not Bangkok but in Sukothai. 40 years ago. It was perhaps 40 degrees most of the day. The hotel said "a/c" on it's outside but after waiting an hour (it was already past sundown) for the room to cool down, it was obvious the machine had no gas. It was the hotel's best room, one of only 2 with a/c. I took a walk through the neighbourhood to find another hotel. Saw one but it didn't even say "a/c" on its signboard. Enquiry at its desk confirmed that a fan was all that was available. The night heat felt like a ton of bricks and I could walk no further to find another hotel in the then very dusty town. Back in my room I couldn't even lie on the mattress till past 1 or 2am. The foam mattress had absorbed the day's heat and lying on it felt like lying on a park bench that had baked in the sun. Can't remember now but I don't think I had any sleep at all, sitting on a chair in front of a fan blowing warm air at me. I was sweating all night and a wreck in the morning. I remember this night better than the archeological ruins of Sukothai. Haha. I also remember one time in HK when the humidity was oppressive even though temperature-wise, it was only registering 26 or 27 degrees.

Mixskin, I don't undrstnd "for LT (7 days +). Doesnt LT mean something like 'until morning' ?

For Zurich's Pargonya, I was a bit disappointed in my April 1st visit, that there weren't as many guys as I expected, and most of them were socializing among themselves and old-time patrons. I only met two guys at Pargonya, the new area is nice with a Whirlpool , a dry sauna and steam room. The rest of the place it was the same as my previous visit in November 2022

On a slight tangent, I got a new passport when in the UK last month (excellent 48 hour service booked in advance - although at a price) and now have the hassle of ensuring almost every organisation I have to deal with in Bangkok has my passport details changed. On Friday at the Bangkok Bank Head Office I could not believe this meant the bank staff had not only to change my passbook but complete around 20 different forms of which I had to countesign most. The whole process took nearly 25 minutes and struck me as a total waste of staff time for what ought to be a relatively simple procedure! Re the cops, I always carry with me a laminated photocopy of the passport details page with the visa on the other side. Never been asked for it, though!

Like @vinapu I am pretty sure they will be higher for what is one of the peak travel seasons unless the present volume of passengers starts to tail off. I'd certainly wait. Not sure to which city you wish to fly, but some Emirates flights have its new PE class. But I see from the Skytrax site that passenger reviews for Emirates are a good deal worse than before, even for first and biz class. I recall it was only 4 1/2 years ago I got biz class flights to/from the UK on Qatar for 77,000 Baht! Qatar still gets generally very good reviews on Skytrax. For my regular trips to Taipei, I am delighted that the low economy fares on China Airlines from BKK are still what they were 3 years ago. I am snapping up tickets for November 2023 and February 2024 before they rise.

I had been first time in Colombia on last December after more than 20 years visits to Thailand and I was shocked to find out how Thailand become so expensive, the rates requested there were between third to half of the going rates in Thailand and the variety of the boys there is more interesting for my taste . Unfortunately Thailand become less attractive option for me nowadays.

Thanks for that. I noticed in Colombia this winter the hotels photocopied the ID page and the date stamp page. I don't recall ever seeing the date stamp page photocopied in other countries. But I'm not particularly well travelled so it could be done lots of places.

And yet for me living in US , Thailand is a huge bargain.

A point PeterRS discussed above. From Pattaya Mail Small print dooms Brits’ travel insurance in Thailand By Barry Kenyon This year looks like becoming a record-breaker for badly injured Brits who are stranded in Thailand and unable to pay their medical bills. Whilst the British foreign office and even the Tourist Association of Thailand thunder away at the importance of buying accident and illness cover, the reality is that most travel insurance is not designed to cover life-saving operations or expensive repatriation. Total bills are typically GBP 100,000 and much more if an air evacuation service is needed. The Association of British Insurers says that 17 percent of all overseas claims are rejected, mostly through lack of documentation, and adds that the average payout for successful claims is just over GBP 1,000. In other words, insurers are mainly paying out on small issues such as lost luggage or booking cancellations rather than medical emergencies. The award-winning blog Travelbunny stresses that most failures come down to the small print in the policies which is there to protect the funds of the insurance companies rather than you. A review of charity crowdfunding sites, notably GoFundMe, reveals that no fewer than 23 Brits (or their families) have appealed for cash in the past six months to pay for traumatic incidents in Thailand and/or to fund repatriation. Most cases involved traffic accidents, usually on motorbikes or mopeds, with falling from buildings and being mugged the runners-up. The amounts requested in public appeals ranged from GBP 25,000 to GBP 300,000 with the average income received being around 10 percent of the advertised target. At best, charity crowdfunding is a peripheral partner rather than a principal funder. The reasons for failed insurance policies are sometimes specified in crowdfunding entreaties. In 10 detailed traffic accidents, five injured Brits were refused cover because they were not wearing a crash helmet, two were relying on British driving licences (only international or Thai-issued are lawful here), two were participating in hazardous sports (elephant trekking and bungee jumping) and one had had been out of the UK for more than 30 days. Some reports were ambiguous, for example “Amex let me down” or “repatriation not allowed”. Not surprisingly, not a single GoFundMe appeal mentioned alcohol or narcotics as an insurance denial reason – even though most of the road accidents occurred late at night. Some Thai hospitals are reluctant to perform such as tests as they don’t want to ruin the chances of a successful insurance payout. However, insurers in a big claim will want clear evidence there was no alcohol or substance abuse. The warning clauses most used in the small print are “must take reasonable care” or “must observe national laws”. For example, it is technically compulsory in Thailand for back seat car passengers to wear safety belts which, of course, creates issues when they have not been fitted. nformal surveys in Thailand suggest that only about half of incoming tourists have any kind of insurance. Of those who do, most rely on travel insurance which may charge them five percent of the total holiday cost. Apart from being aware of the small print, the best advice is probably to stay away from renting a vehicle at all costs. If something nasty does occur, you can be assured your insurance company will leave no stone unturned. That’s guaranteed.

that happens often. I offed HotMale guy known to me previosly and I thought he is about 23. Somehow in conversation topic turned to age and he said he is 32. I did not believe so he supported his claim by showing me his passport. He did not lie. Pretty sure many of us would have similar stories

No. Short answer. Nothing will become of this. We all know the Supreme Court Justices are corrupt. But, nothing ever happens to them. This will not be an exception. IMHO

Not less... still 4000. I just said I will not give more money to the shop than to the boy.

As a frequent traveller to Egypt (specifically: Cairo) I must say that I don’t recognise the transactional nature of a lot of the posts here. I never pay for sex; I do not approve of prostitution. If a guy is doing the deed with me, I want him to be doing so because he fancies me, not because of the contents of my wallet. I travel to Cairo frequently for business and pleasure, and I have made many friends there. Most of them I met through apps, specifically, Grindr and Growlr. You can spot the fakes and they’re easy to ignore, but I have met some genuinely nice guys who remain friends. Turning on Grindr in Cairo is very good for one’s ego, if I turn it on, within five minutes I will have 300 messages. I exaggerate not. A lot of them are openly “cash top”; welcome to my blocked.list is my standard reply. Cairo is a bottom’s paradise: tops are both plentiful and hung. it’s never been a problem entertaining in my hotel room. I have only once been approached by hotel staff as described in some of the posts, but I’ve never done anything with them. I have also been cruised in the streets, and riding the Metro in shorts on a crowded train was very much a mistake. I would say wearing shorts In Cairo is an easy way to get picked up, because no locals wear shorts, so it makes you stand out. I once had a couple of Saudi guys feel me up in a lift in the Intercontinental Hotel, when I was wearing shorts. I don’t think each knew what the other was doing. The hottest incident was being picked up by a policeman in uniform at the Marriot in Zamalek. He was middle-aged, I guess mid 40s, and was in uniform, and I think a senior officer given the pips on his epaulettes. He was sitting at a table adjacent to me. We started talking, and over time as we were chatting, I could see that he had an huge erection in his trousers. Eventually he asked if my room had a nice view of the Nile, which I replied it did, so he asked if you could see it, adding that he had never been in any of the rooms. Of course I took him up, and, well, you can fill in the blanks. It was wild.