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Since I tend to do a lot of massages when I'm here I figured maybe it makes sense to put my impressions in one thread. I already mentioned my experience at Zoo Spa and Onsen in that dedicated thread, so I won't rehash it here. Prime Massage, Silom Soi 6. Yesterday I visited Prime in Silom Soi 6. Obviously this place is a huge massage factory. My back and neck were giving me some trouble so I thought a real, legit massage was in order. I did a 90 min oil massage. I liked the orange scented oil. No choice of masseurs but I didn't really care. The young woman at the desk took my 700 baht and had me take a seat briefly. Then I was led across the soi to the annex building. Showered down the hall. The sign in the shower about the 20000 baht fine if you poop in the shower gave me some pause. I presume that means it's actually happened in the past. Back to the room and onto the table. The table had a face cut out but was nearly as uncomfortable as a bed without it. The masseur used VERY hard pressure. Ultimately I had to cry out when he did that thing that too many masseurs do of pinching the muscle on the inside of the thigh. It hurts like hell and I had to tell him not to do that. I might have been a little loud in my protest. But he did ease up. Overall the massage was very thorough if totally legit with absolutely no hanky panky suggested or necessary. It was a bit painful though and too rough for me. I actually would have appreciated some slow stretching but his movements were too abrupt. I tipped 500 (I was pointed to the policy of 100 minimum at the cashier desk) because I thought it was fair, not because I was totally happy with the experience. 15M Massage (Saphan Kwai BTS) Today it was off to a part of the city I don't think I've ever visited before. 15M Massage is about a 30 second walk from the Saphan Kwai BTS (exit 3). So it's quite convenient. I booked Noom in advance (photo below). He looks almost nothing like this photo. So much so that I questioned to myself whether it was the same guy. His hair is no longer blond. But the tattoo matches up and so do the earrings. He's also a bit more muscular than in this photo. Booking via Line was easy. They also have a Twitter account (https://twitter.com/boybk12345) Mostly straight guys. Many quite handsome. And they are teamed up with the nearby 27M Massage. But since this location is so easy to get to I chose it. I arrived a few minutes early and Noom was already there as well. I asked for the 90 minute "aroma" massage which is my basic go-to option. I paid the 550 baht to the handsome boy at the cashier station and was led up one level. Room was very basic with a just a thin mattress on the floor. I was pointed to the shower up a further flight of stairs. Once back in the room Noom was already undressed and ready to go. The "massage" was basically terrible. I suspect there is no training for these guys and anyway no one is going there for a proper massage. It was just a mindless rub spending an inordinate amount of time on one leg, then the other before eventually progressing to a back rub. It was not especially erotic or relaxing - just kind of mechanical. After a while I was mercifully invited to flip over. The AC was a bit too cold and my efforts to communicate that were unsuccessful. Either my Thai is really terrible (likely) or he just didn't understand me or my pantomime of being cold. His phone dinged constantly with Line messages. Obviously the polite thing to do is silence your notifications in such a situation. He did offer to fuck me, but that's not my thing. So we moved on to other things that I do enjoy. I will say he was impressively hard with very little input needed. After a while the lights were flickered which I presume was meant as a signal to wrap up. Once we did finish I noted that barely an hour had passed. So, my 90 minute session was not what I go. But frankly I was fine with that. A satisfactory ending was achieved but on the whole not the greatest experience ever. Noom left me to shower alone as did he. We could have conserved some water, but that's not the way it worked out. They do have a couple of gay guys on staff so that might be a better option unless you just want a straight guy to fuck you. I did note several cute boys on my way out. If I'd had a better experience I would be more inclined to return.

But... but... it's been so for at least 40 years!

From CNBC WASHINGTON — The International Criminal Court issued an arrest warrant on Friday for Russian President Vladimir Putin over alleged war crimes committed during his invasion of Ukraine. The court also put out a warrant for Maria Lvova-Belova, Russia’s commissioner for children’s rights. Putin and Lvova-Belova are “allegedly responsible for the war crime of unlawful deportation” of children from occupied areas of Ukraine to Russia, the court wrote in a statement. “There are reasonable grounds to believe that Mr. Putin bears individual criminal responsibility” for the forced deportation of Ukrainian children, the ICC said. The court alleged that he committed the offenses either directly or in cooperation with others, or failed to stop subordinates under his authority.

Paradise Massage - Soi 13/4 down from A-Bomb and Boyztown entrance. Cost - 1 hour Oil Massage - 400. No minimum mentioned for boy Boys quality: I'd passed earlier in my trip and it had a poor selection but 2nd time I went past there was a variety of 6 or so boys. The boys seem to take it in turns if you don't show an immediate preference. The boy was very keen, had a cute face and body, a big smile and was quite young. Not my normal type but I didn't have the heart to say no as he was literally bouncing around. Ambience: Surprisingly nice. The room had a large shower cubicle in and plenty of space. I'm pretty sure all rooms are not the same. Stairs are a bit iffy (quite narrow) if you have difficulties and no bannister on lower portion. Massage Quality: The massage was pretty good. Very sensual and as soon as the boy started he rested his cock and balls on the soles of my feet as he massaged my legs. He kept his cock and balls in easy range all through the massage but the funniest thing was that his cock was incredibly sensitive. Once I realised, I basically had him nearly doubled up due to just how sensitive he was. It was hugely amusing for me but he gamely carried on. The ending was mutual BJ as he was very much a bottom. Overall - As much as it was a fun time and good massage, I prefer a top. I will go back though with luck before the end of my trip.

we are talking about two countries not exactly famous for being paragons of rule of law

Awww, thanks @floridarob for the shout-out. To answer a few questions above, @tm_nyc - it was a conscious decision to turn off comments. My posts come in spurts and starts, and for months between travels I may not post (nothing to report) and so have no reason to even look at my own site. This may frustrate people who put questions there, and they may think me rude to not reply. I would rather they put their questions here in GayGuides and this way benefit from the collective wisdom of many others, not just me. @Marc in Calif - Having done the other parts of Bali before, I had no urge to go trekking to the other towns; not even Ubud which I personally think a bit overrated (but that's just me). Furthermore the trip was half work and I didn't want to risk putting myself in the smaller places where wifi might be uncertain. Even in earlier visits, I have not come across gay places outside of the main urban area in Kuta - Seminyak - and I have not seen mention of any online (except 1 or 2 clothing-optional resorts). So, if you know of some, please share. I may check them out the next time. I've never been to any of these advertsed clothing-options places (no real interest) but I once had a longish conversation with someone while we were both stuck in transit at Singapore's Changi airport, waiting for a delayed flight to Manila. I don't fully recall the details (I don't even recall his name now!), but I do recall his general observation that the one (or was it two?) places he had been to were quite isolated, and there was limited choice beyond the in-house staff. Also, he said something about poor customer traffic, thus poor upkeep of the premises. But this is second-hand information. Would certainly appreciate if others had better and more recent information.

Although Prime is justifiably known for its reliability in delivering good massages, I fear standards may slip when the boys are tired, as they may well be seeing the steady stream of customers. Your report on 15M is useful for others even if it wasn't a satisfying session. From my admittedly limited experience of the saphan khwai places (and Ganymede and what's-its-name on Soi Ari) I'd agree they aim for fun rather than therapeutic excellence.

Foxy Massage - Jomtien Complex - Same side of road as Zing R&S and Agate. Just before Soda Massage Cost - 1 hour Oil Massage - 300. No minimum for boy Boys quality: 8 to 10 boys. Mix of ages and types. Ambience: No shower offered. Basic room. Massage Quality: What massage !! Got into the room, the boy made a half hearted couple of rubs on my calf, moved up to my thigh and then shoved 3 fingers up my ass without so much as a by your leave. He also had nails that felt like razor blades. Suffice to say, if you want a fuck this is a poor substitute for all the boy bars in Jomtien. if you want a massage go to Soda which is 50 yards away. Overall - I'll be generous and call it crap.

Soda Massage - Jomtien Complex - Diagonally opposite Dick's Cafe - End of road with Agate/Zing R&S Cost - 1 hour Oil Massage - 300. No minimum mentioned for boys. Boys quality: Lots of choice (10 to 15 boys) but more twinks and few muscle. Ambience: 9 rooms, pretty clean with doors but thin walls which do not go to ceiling. Communal shower and open toilet. Massage Quality: I've been 3 times since I arrived 2 weeks ago and it's a little pot luck as far as I can tell. Massage 1 - Good massage, more sensual than firm but lots of good touch. Afters were HJ and prostate massage. Enjoyable Massage 2 - OK massage, not enough pressure and in no way sensual. Masseur stayed dressed and moved away from touch. No afters. Not a good enough massage overally Massage 3 - Good massage, again more sensual than firm but lots of good touch. Afters were BJ and prostate massage. Enjoyable Overall - It's got the most choice I found at the moment but there seem to be a few masseurs who will only give a very basic massage. Still worth it overall, just watch your choice.

Makes one wonder what the boys must be saying about their farang customers 😉

Keanu Reeves was publicly linked to Geffen for a long time ... accurate or not. However, if this current report is accurate (not certain it is), the younger partner is indeed attractive. I wouldn't toss him out of my bed!

sure , often very short term indeed

Over the years, I had three boys stay with me for days. That was not based primarily on money, although I paid for all expenses and gave them pocket money 300-500 per day. All cases quickly turned sour for different ideas of how to spend the day, what to do in bed, where and when and what to eat, where to go for sightseeing. In one case, the boy was new to Bangkok and had no own room and thought he could stay with me undetermined time, I had to flee: trip to Udon Thani (alone, the boy wanted to join but I made up an excuse) and gave him two days notice. Nowadays, I even refuse overnights (again speaking of free encounters) when there is no clear plan for the following day from the boy's side. But there is one I invited to stay with me 3 days 2 nights and all went fine, and I know some more I would invite. But all cases that I have met several times before and we have shared interests.

From The Thaiger Low-cost carrier Thai AirAsia will soon boost flights daily from Chiang Mai Airport in northern Thailand to six international destinations including Hanoi and Da Nang in Vietnam, Singapore, Hong Kong, Taipei and Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia. Flights will run to these Asian tourist hotspots every day starting Sunday, March 26, 2023. The budget airline is celebrating the boost in flights with a Songkran (Thai New Year) promotion for tickets bought via the AirAsia Super App. If tickets are booked before March 19, budding travellers can bag a flight to Hanoi, Da Nang, Hong Kong, Taipei or Kuala Lumpur for as little as 1800 baht (US$52) during the Songkran holidays next month. On February 16, Thai VietJet Air launched direct flights between Chiang Mai and Osaka in Japan, the route running thrice per week on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays. Aside from the Chiang Mai – Osaka route, Thai VietJet operates a daily direct flight between Bangkok and Fukuoka. In January, China Airlines inaugurated direct flights from Chiang Mai to Taoyuan International Airport in Taiwan, four times per week on Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Fridays and Saturdays.

we all should be so lucky. Don't we come to Thailand to create short terms versions of such relationships? Good luck to them

You simply don't get it do you? You are so set in your support of Putin that you will completely overlook the war crimes he is committing because you hate your own government and media. It's fine that you hate them but your belief that everyone else in the world follows them is simply ridiculous. Again, Ukraine defending itself is not what is pushing the nuclear war narrative, Putin is. As for your ridiculous holocaust and WW2 references, it's Putin defenestrating, poisoning and eliminating his opponents so in any 1930s comparison, you are the Nazi giggling with glee while opponents are murdered and imprisoned.

In case you didn't notice. You're the only sick fuck who goes looking for such things. Get help, you need it.

What do you do with all the time you save when missing out letters?

Two different sources in Bangkok tell me that Screwboys will be reopening. I'm trying to find out when. The obvious date is in good time for Songkran. I will update with any news. Has anyone on the ground there seen any activity in the bar to confirm?

A month ago China issued a directive requiring that Chinese names are added to the eight places occupied by Russia: https://baijiahao.baidu.com/s?id=1758315543670807002&wfr=spider&for=pc

Correct. But my problem with the DR is not the prices. 99% of the stories I hear are about the place being a paradise for bottoms. I am not looking for tops and big dicks. Colombia and Brazil have me more than satisfied. The rest of the Dominican culture (beyond sex) seems nice, but it does not inspire my curiosity or desire to visit.

Visa fees are generally based on reciprocity. So who to blame?

Somjit Massage - Tukcom - Turn right at Tukcom. Somjit is 150 yards up on right hand side. If you get to Helios you've gone to far. Cost - 1 hour Oil Massage - 300. No minimum for boy Boys quality: 2 boys on duty when I got there late afternoon but was about 5 or 6 when I left. Generally youngish. Ambience: No shower offered. Room is open with 4 beds and curtains in between. Each area is very small. 1 to 2 feet of space on each side. Massage Quality: The massage was ok. The boy knew the moves but was very light touch. He also avoided all sensual areas for the first 45 minutes of the massage. No chemistry at all and when he tried to get me hard at the end I simply told him no thanks. Overall - I'm guessing it will be erratic. I'm not going to go back during this trip but I've heard others have had better luck there.

Helios Massage - Tukcom - Coming from beach, take road along Tukcom. Helios is about 200m on the left. Cost - 1 hour Oil Massage - 500. 1000 minimum for boy 1.5 hour Oil Massage - 700. 1200 minimum for boy 1 hour Foam Massage - 600. 1000 minimum for boy Boys quality: 5 or 6 boys. Low 20's to low 30's Ambience: Lots of stairs !! Room and separate shower. Seemed cleaner than I remember as this has always been a favorite for me. Massage Quality: I've been twice in the two weeks I've been here. Will be going again in the next couple of days for a foam massage. Massage 1 - Good massage, Sensual but also a firmish touch. Afters was BJ's. Would probably have been more had I asked. When talking afterwards he said he was versatile. Massage 2 - Very good massage with a sensual but firm touch of all areas. Took a while for him to get an erection but once he did it was really hard. He did try to top me without a condom but that was not going to happen. That seems to be far more common now than it used to be, probably due to prep and the number of farangs who don't care what STIs are spread. Overall - Still a favorite place for me. Probably not going to be a favorite for those who like 18/19 year olds or those that like the overly muscled.

Israel is yet another example.

Look on the apps. I've seen many times pairs of boys advertising themselves for threesomes. I'm sorry, I can't point specifically to any of them. Threesomes are not my interest, so I didn't pay much attention. Nevertheless, they are there. Also, if you are chatting with a boy on the apps, tell him you are looking for a threesome. He mighty be interested or might know someone who is. Can't hurt to try.

From The Star VIENTIANE (Xinhua): The Laos-China Railway Co, Ltd. (LCRC) on Wednesday (March 15) launched its ticketing mobile application, allowing passengers to easily book and manage their journeys on smartphones. The APP supports ticket reservation and cancellation, and provides information on train schedules, stations, and routes.

right , after all you were there and seem happy with experience

Nvm 202 is even more rundown 😂 but ngl i had fun there! Ok I am going to stop now and post my full first ever Brazil trip review in a seperate thread when I come back.

That one is even more rundown.

If that is what he said, that tells me all I would want to know. I would never ask a boy to do something he made clear he doesn't like. For what? The boy won't enjoy it and neither will you if you know you are making him do what he doesn't want to do. A little shopping around, including the apps, and you'll find what you want with willing boys. Don't you think willing boys would be much better? I would leave the mama-sans out of it completely. They'll want a BIG tip and they can be very good at coercing the boys to do what they don't want to do.

From Pattaya Mail The Ministry of Culture, together with more than 30 agencies, is organizing events for the 241st Anniversary of Rattanakosin between 21 and 25 April 2023 around Rattanakosin Island, in Bangkok. This event is organized to celebrate the 241st anniversary of the establishment of Krung Rattanakosin, when Bangkok became Thailand’s capital, and create awareness of the Rattanakosin history, which will also promote and support tourism. There will be many activities, such as religious ceremonies, a “Night Museum” around the area, multimedia light & sound shows, outdoor film screenings, a photo contest, and much more. The city will be ready for a grand event, and there will be plenty of support places, including travel facilities, drinking water, and public relations on all channels of each agency. (PRD) Map from Wikipedia

"or something"? Now you're just listing random items. That particular $1.6 billion package was back in April 1993 -- not even close to the 1996 election. 🙄

V. Putin is busy creating the type of fascist state that Drumpf and Orban can only dream about.

I have no trouble acknowledging American flaws. They are quite numerous. We're a ridiculously self-righteous nation. We've pretended to high ideals and done many shitty things. But the idea that because America has been an ass repeatedly that all else is ok is moronic. All the sins of the world do not lay at our feet.

You know nothing about me or my politics other than that I think Ukraine has a right to defend itself. You don't know if I am left, right or center. You, on the other hand, support and make excuses for a Putin dictatorship that is threatening nuclear attack, murdering civilians including women and children, destroying civilian infrastructure, targeting hospitals, nuclear power stations, water and sanitation infrastructure as well as other war crimes. That makes you the murderous Nazi.

Your idea of a fascist is someone that disagrees with you. Your constant looking for images of war and death and fantasies about old men masturbating to them is the sign of a very sick mind.

And, of course, the US bankrolled the KGB/FSB czar to lead Russia. Nuttiest stuff I've ever read.

War sucks. America's record is nothing to be proud of. We get fed a lot of propaganda about how great and noble and pure we are. We aren't. We're pretty mud splattered with espoused ideals that we frequently fail to live up to. Hell, right now many republicans don't even bother to espouse the ideals of democracy and freedom. But, if you think this is somehow new or different, you're naïve as fuck. We all believe lies about ourselves and always have. But, Putin is a monster, and those in Russia who elected him repeatedly until he became absolute dictator, and then believe the lies they are told get to live the consequences of that. Kids in Russia who volunteer based on their idiocy reap the consequences of that idiocy. Our failings don't excuse other monstrosities. I will never understand people's love of 'strong men'. Why is it that people think that if they give all the power to the biggest bully around that it will end well for anybody except the bully? Our best feature is that whoever the guy in charge is, he never stays long enough to gain enough power to allow him to let his own personal whims command the nation. Hopefully we will keep staggering towards our ideals. At the moment, it feels like we've taken a break to puke in the gutter. I hope we get up and carry on.

you should talk to your boy and quite possibly he would know willing friend of friend

LOL. I can relate to that. Part of my job involves interpreting conversations in English/Spanish. I always have moments when I speak in English to a Spanish speaker and vice versa. My brain gets lost when I travel to Brazil and try to learn a third tongue. The challenge for me is to understand spoken language. I am capable of understanding several languages when I am reading. Although not proficient, I can express myself in a few tongues. I can navigate with no significant issues in professional conversations, but social settings are very stressful because I get lost in informal language. Me learning an Asian language? It is beyond fantasy.

A friend caught scabies, or in this context, “sGAYbies”, the likely human skin-to-skin source either São Paulo or Rio sexcapades. Scabies is globally ubiquitous, so a bit surprising it has not come up here although poses a considerable hassle. He had not otherwise shared any clothing or linens and had been sleeping alone. However, common area seating and programas in areas commonly sequentially used by various venue inhabitants. He had intense itching at the base between two fingers and initially thought it could be a mosquito bite. I offered hydrocortisone cream, an item I actually carry around when travelling, and asked to have a look. An obvious characteristic mite burrow track; signs of incipient mite burrow tracks between other fingers both hands also evident. He worried about the inconvenience of a private clinic check-up, say, the pricy Galdino Campos in Copacabana. I opined that he could self-diagnose based on the symptoms IF he felt comfortable. He worried about needing a physician prescription for dispensing. It was decided to case one of many pharmacies. Lo and behold were inexpensive standard topical treatment supplies right on the open area shelves. It was decided he would scrub down with a bar of benzyl benzoate soap, wash off, dry off, and apply a layer of permethrin lotion from his hairline down to the soles of his feet, including groin, penis short of urethral opening, and between buttocks, leaving on for at least 24 hours … keeping hands dry by wearing latex gloves for activities that would risk rubbing off the treatment, or re-applying permethrin to his hands over that period if necessary. A big fellow, he realized prior to the application tasks that he would need 2 tubes, and went to another drogaria where the pharmacist reached below right at his seating station for the same permethrin brand. This suggests that pharmacists are accustomed to selling infestation treatments. He found that it was not ‘goopy’ and it absorbed much like any moisturizer. He went to a self-serve lavanderia where he washed and dried, at high heat, garments potentially secondarily infested. He left the hot drier on for several minutes for good measure after removing his dried clothing. Needless to say, this kind of situation is much easier if you are at your regular home with much more back-up apparel and linens. So far, so good, about a week later. No evidence of new burrow tracks. No additional pruritis; it had quickly remitted. I suppose that if you are fortunate the itching phenomenon may assist with early detection.

Such an occupational hazard for which garotos de programa receive essentially no compensation. As a consumer with intermittent blocks of travel and close to failsafe STD protection measures I very infrequently need a sexual health clinic screening visit. In contrast, providers’ exposure along with their personal sexual partners’ vulnerability is relentless. Gonorrhea PrEP efficacy in clinical trials is proving to be mediocre and risks antimicrobial resistance.

put a tracking alert on Google Flights.....way too early to buy. Generally 50usd 1 way is a safe buying point, they will dip sometimes to 30-40 on Gol.

At 65, I can still cum more than once a day if I try, but lack the desire to do so. at home wanking, every other day is fine. On a sexcation, I often have sex more than once a day, but being verse I don't pop when I bottom. I save it for topping. I have had 4 men in a day and only popped inside one. the strong drive to have sex is not there like it was years ago, but I'm not wasting my vacation not having a good time with fabulous men that I cannot experience at home....

When I was younger, in my 30's....could do 7 times a day. Now I'm in my 50's, taking different medicines for blood pressure, etc.....I'm lucky with once a day.

Regarding the tips, I didn't wanna start a long discussion because we will never reach a consensus here. The reason is that our benchmark is very different for every person and the market is always changing. Also many people who paid less will not reveal what they paid because they get called cheap2charlie. So the information on this forum can be very tilted in terms of the actual pay. That's why I kept the tip part short in my review. If you ask me, compared to well established places in Bangkok, I felt like Pattaya was expensive. The min tip used to be 700 to 1500 in Bangkok before pandemic. I still found it expensive because my type is hard to find in Thailand. But I never hired after the pandemic in Bangkok so I wouldn't know the market. As far as I see from one place that has its min tip public, it is still 700 in Bangkok...so Pattaya should be lower because the cost of living in Pattaya is lower for the boys. But when I hired this time in Pattaya, it was a busy touristy season (Jan after opening from pandemic) so I don't know how the market was. If there are so many tourists who are willing to pay 1500 for extra ( full service) then yes the market is different and the boys won't accept lower amounts because another customer can give them that amount. But I doubt that amount would last after February. I know 1500 as a tip is high because the top boys offer the same thing on the app for 1500 or even lower. Much better experience because you do it at your home instead of the massage place and you agree on what you would do in advance etc but you can't control much in the massage place. I had one guy who offered me 1000 massage and full service and he wanted to come to me every night, even by missing his work shift. When I asked for threesome he easily found another guy for 1000 to join. I didn't like that guy because he had hard time getting hard so I didn't hire them again but they still wanted to meet again for the same amount. I asked a few more guys on the app, most will offer 1500 but they will immediately lower it when you say not interested. I never like this sort of negotiation so even if they offer a lower price I never hire them. I only hire boys who offer the right price initially and stick to it. They are the smart one and easy to deal with. Boys who negotiate prices are tricky and difficult to deal with but that's just me. Overall in Pattaya I had many offers for 1000 to 1200 on the app for full service but none of them were attractive enough to devote my time and money. I asked their price just to know the market. So in my opinion if you are tipping 1500 at a massage place in Pattaya and think the others who pay less are cheap2charlie, you might be just overpaying and inflating the market... finally I compare the rates to different places in the world. In Vietnam and Cambodia you pay far less than Thailand. But the guys are hotter... Those places are hard to find because not much information is available online. Now if I compare the rates in Pattaya to Colombia and Brazil, Thai boys are really overpriced but that might be just my type problem so I kept my comment on tips short...

The Gindr profiles are not public (read their Terms and Conditions). You need a Gindr account to see them. And the MB does not always display "MB" is their profile. Their choice to be respected. And Gindr is not Facebook, it is a location-based app. The display of profile is supposed to be local and active when the user is online. To say shortly, the display of a Gindr user account in this forum is a violation of section 22 of the app Terms and Conditions para 9 and 11...

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Relax massage in Pattaya This place is close to the Boystown in Pattaya, on the main road, close to the intersection where the baht bus to Jomtien starts. It is right next to the turkish restaurant on that corner. You can find it on google map as well. Boys quality: I wanted to try the Sea massage, again from a recommendation here somewhere. But I didn't like the guys who were sitting in the front. I passed the Sea massage multiple times and also at the closing when almost all of the guys were outside chatting before heading home. So I was quite certain that I didn't have anyone of my type. I was a bit disappointed but when I passed the Sea massage, I saw some decent looking guys sitting in front of a place called Relax massage. They are dressed in black (pants) and white (t-shirt) and all looked quite nice. Most looked quite straight and that was actually the case after talking to them. I think the owner (a lady in the picture on the google map) has a good taste in men so she got some decent looking guys. Either way, oil massage is also 300 baht only so I thought I won't lose much so I decided to try it out. I was shy to choose the guy but one of the guys was very active and came up to me immediately as I approached the place. He had a decent look and body so I accepted the offer. Ambience: The first floor is for foot massage, so if you are unsure of which boy to choose, you can have a foot massage and check who is available. Everyone will come and go through the first floor so you will see everyone after one hour haha. The second floor is for thai massage where each bed is separated by curtains, so less privacy. I am guessing it is hard to do anything extra there. The third floor is for oil massage and you have cubicles. No shower in the cubicle but the third floor has the shower and toilet together. I find this place clean overall. Massage quality: The usual (high) quality you get in Thailand, so I was happy with the pressure. The guy touches literally everywhere and was very thorough, so I liked the massage itself. The rest: He obviously wanted to offer extra but he couldn't get hard. He said he just finished before me but I said then why did you take me so actively. He said he can take a pill and get ready in 20 min if I book another session. I was not going to waste time and money for him anymore, so I thanked him and told him next time. On my way out there was a good looking guy setting another room. I asked his line secretly before heading down to the reception. At reception I paid and gave the masseur 200 baht as a tip because nothing happened. I usually give 100 or 200 at normal places depending on the mood, but was not sure if this sort of places expect higher. He seemed quite happy that he got a tip. Next day, I texted on line that guy I chatted briefly on my way out. He has a really sexy face, slightly slimmer than I would like but some slim guys have a nice shape, and he was one of them. But the face was the highlight. I booked him next day by asking him when he is available. And when I arrived at the set time, I texted him via line to make sure he would welcome me without the awkward stuff. He welcomed me and asked which massage I wanted, I chose the oil massage, we went up the room. His massage skill was pretty good as well and we was very thorough like the guy before. When i turned around, of course he made me hard and I started touching him. He asked for 3k as a tip, I just refused and offered 1500. He countered me with 2000 but I kept the same amount. I think 1500 as a tip in Pattaya is more than enough as I had many guys on the app offering 1000-1500 for full service visiting me. Even in BKK, I think the min tips are usually less than 1000, so I wasn't interested in paying more than 1500. He accepted immediately without fuzzing around and we had quite a bit of fun. The main issue was that he didn't kiss, which is a big turn off for me. It is usually the problem of straight guys and I was worried about it when I learned that the guys here mostly straight from Cambodia. Either way, for his face, I was happy to tip 1500 for once. Once only and if he came up with a better offer, I could have hired him again but without kissing, how much I was willing to pay went down dramatically. From the next day onward, he kept messaging me every day and asking me to come but it was not a good value for me anymore, so I kindly asked him to find someone else after a few days. He still texted me even after that A side note: At the end of the boyztown when you get to the main street, there is a massage place as well. I don't know the name but it is on the same area where the bars are. The guys were quite aggressive to lure me in but they looked quite old and worn out? I don't know how to describe them but I just dont feel the same energy that I felt from the young guys at Relax massage.