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  1. Day 15 and summary A left earlier. We met many times before and I’m pretty sure he noticed I like our new companion so much so he decided to give us hour or two more, just two of us and when he suggested he will go , true to form I said Ok. Sometime later mu guy said it’s time for him to go and for me to do the same. Shower together , agreed tip plus 500 , he went his way , I packed my goodies and when it started dawning I was on the street catching taxi which conveniently just appeared on horizon. No drama this time , 257 baht on the meter to Swampy. He was very happy when I gave him 300 and asked to keep the change. Two or so hours later I was in the air , taking off from Thailand for 27th time. Time to summarize . I call this trip short but only because last three were almost month long but before 2 weeks was kind of standard, twice I flew just for 1 week and was surprised it worked well. It was first time I was in LOS in January and February and weather was very pleasant but last few days in beginning of February it could be sensed temperature and humidity is climbing up. I’m glad I returned to butterflying meeting only V , N in Pattaya and Maii at Jey Spa more than once. Some boys were probably disappointed , I get it , but it seemed to work for me as previously I noticed in few cases bit of complacency. I don’t like to be taken for granted even if I’m. This is not what it was supposed to be , it was supposed solid 8 days spent with CCP in Phnom Penh and Bangkok but regretfully it did not happen. I was leaving home with very high hopes, expecting great time with him but also aware that we don’t know each other really and his antics with flight change and money requests were warning signals. Few of my friends who were privy to affair from beginning , all were right – chances are that it will not work they warned me unanimously and early on . So stupid guy at least has smart friends, no? I feel disappointed but not bitter. I tried but it did not work . Will I pursue him again ? Most likely no. Will I try once more if he will pursue me ? Most likely yes, much smarter from that experience. No money in advance , no commitment to anything more initially than night stand and only then if satisfied I may look for repeat. Will he try to contact me in the future ? I very much doubt as he may suspect I’m mad as hell. Other than that most guys I met were very good to excellent. Even Tawan boys with exception of one but their sin was with being too greedy so chances are I will put them on diet in future. Best bar this trip for me was , surprisingly to even myself , Hot Male. At one point I counted 10 boys on the stage I could off one by one. It looks I firmly start liking Jupiter, second off in row better than just satisfactory. And I don’t even count HC taken from there, He was bit of sore point of my trip in October but it looks he turned out changed man to my extreme delight. Him, N in Pattaya and guy who visited me in Phnom Penh were as close to boyfriend experience as I could wish followed by several others , not far behind. But if you ask me which of guys I met would be my choice if I had only 1 night in Bangkok it would be my last guy from Moonlight. Somehow I’m intrigued by him, I don’t know why but it must be personality I was also intrigued by no less than 3 guys at Banana, all twinks but sold themselves on their smiles. Next time I may be busy there to Lucy’s delight. I don’t even mention one of their barkers, very easy on eyes indeed and guy I offed from there, another sweet treat. Whenever I return I will pursue both “ axe murderers “ I spot in ThaiRelax soi 6 and in Jomtien. Only hope they will be there. I mentioned this year is big question mark for me when comes to travel everywhere. This may mean that I may show up at Thai illustrious shores at very short notice if I will see that’s only option. As for hotels I found Okay Boutique in Phnom Penh extremely good value for money and can recommend it with clear conscience. I continue to consider Furama Sathorn Xclusive as my top find in Silom area , while still loyal to Baan Silom. Rose and particularly Le Siam were nice discoveries while shiny Ibis Styles , while impressive , I found bit overpriced for what I got . I like some space in my rooms. But I’m glad I tried them. Jet lags continue to ruin me , each time it seems to be worse and worse. Only cure are longer trips and less hectic schedule in the first week. Or staying home , obviously not an option. Even with stress and disappointment this trip belongs definitely to better half of my trips so far.
    12 points
  2. police can do only that much to prevent scams, tourists should remember that while they are on vacations their brains should not be. I'm privy to very recent (Thursday ) story which will not find it's way here. Guy hired girl for you know what and after session in his airbnb he paid her tip out of wad of money he pulled from his desk. Smart and fast thinking girl asked for water so he went to kitchen to get it, and you guessed rightly, intended tip quadrupled. He also was kind enough to tell her he is leaving in Friday so all she need was to hide herself just for one day and night. Is not easy to be hetero those days it seems
    3 points
  3. There is no harm for short time with him if he will contact you again just to fulfill your fantasy beening with this guy, I would no go further then that due the horrible experience you had with him. I doubt that he will try to contact you again not because he suspect you may be mad at him ( believe me he doesn't care about your feelings at all because if he did he would never behaved as he did) but because his plans to squeeze walking falang ATM didn't went well for him with you as he planned so there is really no point for him to try it again it's a waste of time for him.
    2 points
  4. Vinapu, we will definitely miss your reports and adventures. You must make it back to Thailand soon!! CHEERS!!
    2 points
  5. daily cleaning, avoidance of getting foul of anti shot term rentals in condos, proximity to your favorite bar , walk distance to a nearest church
    2 points
  6. Hi guys, I'm on the plane heading back to London with 11 hours to kill so thought I'd use the time to share my thoughts on my first ever trip to Brasil. I hope it proves useful to someone who may soon be going for the first time, or anyone who cares to read it. Sorry if it's a bit long-winded but feel free to stop reading if you lose interest haha! For context I spent 5 days in SP and 4 days in Rio. Consider this trip an early 30th birthday present to myself lol. Sao Paulo Arriving in Guarulhous was straight-forward and without issue. Despite countless Taxi offers, I couldn't resist paying 4.40 reals for a train ticket to downtown Paulista. Plus the weather was great and I got to see the surroundings. FYI, the ticket offices for the metro only take cash or Brazilian debit cards. On average Brazilians are much better looking than your average westerner (no offence) and within an hour of landing I was already drooling over some heavenly specimens. l don't know if its the genes, the food, the weather, the mix of indingenous cultures or all of the above, but they"re clearly doing something right. Alot of Brazilians also seem to have very good teeth, both natural and veneers. After checking in to my airbnb in Avenida Paulista, I took a shower and explored the local surroundings. In the sunshine Paulista Avenue really is a sight to behold. I'd made prior arrangements with a hunk from garotolocal, potentially risky I know, but along with all the positive reviews and the security measures at the Airbnb I decided to go for it. Despite not having any issues myself, I would recommend sticking to saunas initially until you have some trustworthy connections. A few Brazilians here told me about the potential risks of using sites, even trusted ones. If you must use sites, check reviews, instagram, only fans, etc for evidence of an online presence. I booked an airbnb that was ok with visitors so I would have no awkward issues. Being super paranoid, I also removed any potentially dangerous items out of sight - sharp cooking utensils, irons, broomsticks etc I would also recommend hiding your passport and other belongings or putting them in a safe if available. I also let the garoto know beforehand that the apartement has security and is full of cameras for both our protection just in case they try anything dodgy. Security out of the way, Mr X arrives. Beautifully proportioned muscular frame with tanned caramel skin, arms and pecs bulging through his tight army tshirt. He was perfect for me as I'm into muscle but not overblown steroid-type muscle e.g. Simeon Panda or The Rock etc. He slowly removes his shirt to expose the perfect amount of chest fuzz before moving closer to touch me, what a sight to behold. I won't go into the nitty gritty but let's just say it was a good first night haha. To make it even better, he accepts card! FYI the Pound GBP £ goes a veryyy long way here, I think it's around 6 reais to 1. And that's with the pound being weak at the minute. I would highly recommend Chase banking as they guarantee the mastercard rate of exchange on all card payments, as well as 1% cashback on all purchases, no withdrawal fees either although some Brazilian banks will charge you a small amount. Also FYI, if you're going to be 'passivo', make sure its clean down there as I've noticed a fair few Brazilian GPs have a habit of checking the condom after sex haha. Brazilians in general tend to be very clean and hygienic, the ones I came across at least. All of them to smell great and use mouthwash etc, especially if they smoke. The next day after doing a few touristy bits, I decided to head to Lagoa. If you're a foody and enjoy the arts, culture, restaurants, bars, museums etc then you really cannot beat SP. I enjoy sex but it wasn't the only reason for my visit to Brasil. Beyond Paulisita, SP is not the most aesthetically pleasing city but its full of charm and has something unique to do around every corner. I wouldn't have it any other way. Check out Ibirapuera park on a satuday morning/afternoon to see lots of white topless, hunky, sweaty middle-class brasilians going for a morning run lmao. I was really nervous heading into Lagoa as I'd never been to any kind of sauna before and had no idea what to expect. I got changed into a towel and began to explore. At first it wasn't explicity obvious to me who was a GP and who wasn't (except for the guys stroking their dicks in a corner for all to see). Without trying to brag - I promise - I am in pretty decent shape and was approached by guys who either thought I was a GP, or they knew I was a client like them but wanted to try their luck regardless. And to be fair, there were some sexy customers too! Next tip, as you probably know, learn some portuguese before you come here, at least the basics. Ideally, invest in a language course, I definitely will get some lessons before my next trip. I can't emphasise this enough, especially for emergencies as google translate may not always be available, nor will it always be safe to pull your phone out. English really does not cut it here in around 85% of situations. I am by no means fluent but I spent about 3 weeks beforehand learning the basics. I do speak French so this was a massive help in terms of vocab and sentence structure etc, lots of words are very similar. Knowing Spanish is better than knowing English, but again invest in learning portuguese. Plus, I get the vibe Brazilians don't really like it when you expect them to speak Spanish - so yeah, learn Portuguese. It will also make your experience 10x more enjoyable. In terms of Lagoa, due to previous posts on here I had lowered my expectations. However as it was my first time I had nothing to compare it to and went with an open mind. I was pleasantly surprised, there was a mix of everything from muscular brazilian jocks, to bodybuilders on steroids to athletic swimmer body guy next door types, to slim twinks. There really was something for everyone. If you're into pure muscle then it doesn't beat 117 in Rio (will discuss Rio in a separate post hopefully) but you'll still find a few decent studs here to make it worthwhile. I am quite shy and had no intention of approaching anyone. The best I could muster was a smile and an extended gaze when walking past someone hot. I got myself a drink and made my way upstairs and awkwardly sat in a small side area where some straight porn was playing on a big-screen TV. One or two average GPs approached but I politely declined. Then after about 15 minutes, I made eye contact with a stunning muscular beauty, dark brown maroon skin, about 6 ft 2, looks around 25 - 30 years old, abs with some fur that could literally grate cheese, beefy pecs that you could squeeze and kiss for eternity, perfectly proportioned arms - amazing. For me this was the peak of muscular beauty - not too steroidy - just right. My absolute limit would be Joao Humberto, the gogo dancer who frequents Lagoa, even though he is clearly juicing I still find him insanely sexy. After making eye contact with the guy and smiling, he smiles back and comes to sit next to me. He doesn't actually say anything initially for about 2 minutes. I work out that we're both quite shy. After a couple of minutes he speaks.... 'how are you doing?'... in English. Either he knows I'm a foreigner or he's overheard me speaking broken portuguese somewhere in the sauna lmao. We chat for around 5 minutes with a mix of basic english, portuguese and google translate. Then the moment of truth, he starts bouncing his bulging pecs and asks me if I like what I see. I was sold at this point and there was no going back. This guy is very smooth. Some Brazilians guys really are naturally very charming. He is top and asks for 200 reals. I agree without hesitation and we make our way to a room. Again I'll leave the nitty gritty to your imagination but lets just say he took my number and we had another a session the following day haha Brazil really is amazing! After the session he heads home as he has a fair way to go. I go back to the bar feeling a bit more relaxed. I'm approached by an athletic mixed guy, not my type at all but he's persistent and I'm happy to entertain his chat. Btw I am being deliberately vague as to the personal details of the guys purely out of respect and their discretion. Long story short, me and the guy end up chatting for about an hour like two old friends. We're of a similar age and have similar interests. He's actually straight and only does sauna work to help support his family. I tell him that we're buddies and a programa isn't going to happen but I give him some money to help him out with some personal things. We exchange numbers and he becomes my defacto tour guide of SP over the next few days. He even drives me to a (straight) whorehouse in downtown Republica, very seedy lol. Be very careful if you go to Republica in the evening, or even getting into cars of unknown people. I took a risk here. I hate labels but if we have to use one, you could call me bisexual. We both enjoy the same girl at the brothel for only 40 reais each. A cute carioca from Rio with a big bunda (ass)! Another word of caution, especially in the context of GPs both inside and outside the sauna, they will always have a sob story and will continue to beg for your financial aid. It did become really onerous (especially in Rio) so just be careful and don't let people take advantage of you. I had to block one or two GPs from Rio because the begging just got more and more ridiculous, not to mention rude. It was clear they were only interested in money. A part of me feels sorry for them as life is tough over there. I went to a friend's place in Ipanema and his living conditions honestly broke my heart. I believe he was paying alot per month for the luxury of a shoe-box room with a shared bathroom and toilet. Tbf the view of Ipanema beach was great. I'm told by Brazilians that the average monthtly salary in Brazil is around 1000 to 1500 reals for blue collar work, and around 3000 reals for a working professional. Lots of them seem to have side hustles to supplement their income. From a money perspective we in the west sometimes don't realise just how fortunate we are. On the other hand, there is a correct way of asking for things - to be clear I have no issue helping out GPs in genuine need if it's done with respect and good grace - don't take the piss and try to take advantage of me. Any decent GP asking for money outside of their services will do so respectfully and is often embarrased to ask. They'll often say something like 'i'd appreciate anything you can help me with for X reason etc' In terms of GPs, I made some amazing new connections/friends in Brazil but only a small minority of these are not underpinned by a financial dynamic. Yes you can get free sex online, at bars, beaches etc but obviously its way more effort and is not guaranteed. Furthermore, I am told (by Brazilians) that Grindr in Brazil is becoming increasingly dangerous so again be careful using it. The following day and another trip to Lagoa - after some more touristy stuff. This time I've got my GP buddy with me as a wingman haha. Obviously I will tip him lol. Today I take a seat in the bar and watch some football (soccer) on the big screen upstairs. Brazil's under 21s are playing. I nip downstairs quickly to check something in my locker when I see the most delicious slice of white Brazilian hunk known to man. About 6 ft 1, massive shoulders, pecs, arms, creamy white skin and big full juicy red nipples, no signs of steroid use, what more could you ask for? His face isn't the best in the world but for that body I honestly don't care. We make brief eye contact but he seems to be chatting to another client. For now, he is the only guy on my radar. It's about 9pm and a few minutes later I see him putting his clothes back on in the changing room, my heart sinks as I think he's leaving. I head back upstairs to meet my GP buddy who seems to be struggling for clients recently. I tell him about the GP downstairs and he jets off to try and help me out. A few minutes later, my buddy comes back with the white hunk who could rival Hercules himself, my heart is racing. 'Obrigao irmao' I whisper to my wingman and tip him 50Reals. Hercules pulls me to one side and begins to chat in portuguese, I do my best to understand him but google translator is definitely needed. After brief small talk, I ask him how much he wants. '300?' he replies. I was hoping for less but no way was I about to negociate with this hunk and risk losing him. I agree and we head off to a cabin. The sex is decent, not amazing but it fulfills my fantasy of the hunky white personal trainer at the gym I've always wanted to bang. He's also a good kisser, as are all the Brazilian guys Ive been with, even the ones who are straight/Bi/top only etc. After a steamy session he tells me about his life and we discuss the gap between rich and poor in Brazil. He asks me if I'll be back tomorrow to which I reply 'yeah I should be' even though I was undecided at that point. We bid each other farewell and he leaves Lagoa for the night. After my encounter with Hercules, My GP buddy comes back to greet me. I thank him again for helping me out and we have a chat about gogo boys. He says it is possible to get one if you know the right people and he seems to be confident he can arrange it for me if the specific gogo boy was at the sauna. Other GPs also told me that gogo dancers are available for programas if approached discreetly and in the right way, but it goes without saying you will pay more. I did try contacting one or two on instagram but they have so many followers it's tricky getting them to even see your message. Alas, my dream of bedding Joao Humberto or Lipe remains alive, hopefully next time now that I have my wingman and some new tips. The following day, I'm all sexed out and I needed to get Ready for Rio. A GP/friend (a guy from a site i'd met a couple days ago for a quick session - yes risky I know) invited me to his place to smoke some weed in Vila Madalena. Under no circumstances would I ever suggest going back to a guy's place in Brazil unless you are 100% sure you know them well, especially in light of recent events at 117 in Rio. In hindsight this was probably a lapse of judgement but ironically this GP is now one of my few genuine friends where money doesn't dictate our relationship. He did have ID the first time I saw him and has a stable job, after sex we ended up speaking like old friends for hours. I trusted him somewhat then but now I trust him completely and we've made plans to travel to other parts of Brazil together next time. But I reiterate, under no circumstances should you go back to a guy's place unless you are 100% sure they can be trusted or you know them very well. It's just not worth taking the risk. Furthermore, make sure their building has security cameras and a concierge. I'm not really a smoker, but we had some weed at his place, some drinks and a bit of foreplay all before I headed off to the coach station to catch a bus to Rio! Another word of caution, there are young guys on Avenida Paulista riding around on bicyles stealing phones, bags, hats etc. I saw it happen to a gringo right outside Mcdonalds so be sure to keep your valuables out of sight and secure. I used a fanny pack which works pretty well. If you really need to use your phone, e.g. to check on an uber etc - do it quickly and keep your wits about you, ideally go into a shop, restaurant, shopping area etc. If none of these are nearby then stand up against a wall so you have no blindspots. You will get into the habit of being careful with your phone in Brazil. It's such a contrast to London or other big western cities where you can safely be on your phone at every given moment in practically any given location. Most places take card but I would recommend having some cash to hand, especially because ATM/cash machines in SP are few and far between and they tend to close around 8pm (the ones inside the banks). Also most GPs only take Cash or PIX ( a Brazilian money transfer service which only Brasilians can use). Lastly, unless you want to destroy your Uber rating, don't slam the Uber doors lmao. The Ubers are also dirttt cheap out there. To sum up, I had a blast in SP and will defo be back either this year or early next year God willing. I hope somebody finds this report useful, when I get some time I will try and do one for Rio. Currently waiting for a connecting flight to London in Lisboa, damn they have some seriously hot Portuguese immigration officers here haha.
    1 point
  7. A gay-owned coffee company in Rio has launched in just the last two weeks called Jacu (after the bird, it is not Jacu Bird Poop Coffee). I met the owner, and he is impressive. He is pushing diversity and has hired a great team. One of his executives I met is a guy who grew up in a favela and is now finishing his third year of law school. The company pays his tuition and high salaries. I asked how I could help. If you are in Rio, you can order the coffee at @jacucoffee. It is shipped the same day and takes about two days to your location in Rio. Just great tasting coffee and the picture on the box is the owner's farm. He also said they started to use social influencers to add followers to @jacucoffee. They are opening a coffee and doughnut cafe in Rio Sul. Can we help to drive up the Instagram numbers? Can work to get placement from more retail stores in Rio and SP. And when you are in Rio, ordering some coffee makes a great gift. I just brought back 12 boxes to the USA. Selling at R$39 for 250 g box in Brazil, this same quality coffee in the USA would be priced over US$15. Say they are expanding to the USA market, have meetings set with large retailers. Sorry did not see this topic before I posted.
    1 point
  8. kn5

    First time in Rio

    I’m not a type of person who post reviews , more reading them ! English is not my first language so please excuse my grammar I found so much information about Rio based on the information of this forum - I’m quite shy and introvert so to read about going to sauna is quite intimidating for some reason! But I’m seeing another member of this forum today who give me courage to check out the sauna - thank you to Archer Wednesday is my first day - staying at fairmont - decent location , nice staff , have no problem to bring guests upstairs - I did a tantric massage at Spa H - it was a good massage, nice clean place , extra fee for happy ending of course - want to go to Point 202 , since it is according to the calendar of this forum is the best nice of the week, and I plan to meet archer since he was also be there - but it seems so much that day and I had a long flight , my first meal in Brazil was not agreeable with me - end up meeting someone on Grindr it was hot - but for some reason - the photo and the in person was just not quite the same - I try to find a list of hotel to bring guests back to the room a few times but could not find the list but fairmont hotel , you can bring guy up - Thursday : tantric massage at solaryun spa - very sensual , good pressure , nice clean place, was ask if they offer any extra service, he told me no- there was also a review on google that they offered only sensual not sexual massage - but the masseur ended up riding me and cum in 5m - honestly - it was the hottest thing I did in 2023!! Evening time - did a three some with Grindr previous night and his friend - it was nice - friday : the date I finally meet Archer - who I have to stay look stunning in person - we had a nice chat at coffee shop in ipanema - he has been here a few times , give me some tips somehow it feel different to listen to some tip in person vs reading on the internet - which the only reason gave me the courage to go to Club 117 - it was a raining / some kind of holiday in Rio where they block off the street facing the beach - I finally make it to club 117 at 5pm - Archer told me and I read on forum as well - don’t go with the first guy approach you - well I did it anyway - he was so hot - the sex as good - I gave him a big tip - I work in service industry all my life - the tipping is in my dna - in Brazil - I don’t believe tip is expected but I feel guilty if I don’t - Even in Fairmont - almost all don’t expect tip unlike Thailand - after finish with his one - sitting at the smoking area - I approached by the biggest penis I’ve been seen in person in my life - not the face that I go for - but he was quite persistent and such a good kisser that I ended up going with him anyway - well - the fuck was the most intense one - after that , I feel like I must write a review about my trip There is at least 30-40 guys in club 117 tonight - and I’m in my recovery mode for my third time - I feel like it must be a land for big Dick top with great kissing skill - I’m in heaven 3 more nights to go till going to cold depressed New York ! Sorry posted in wrong forum - but don’t know how to move it
    1 point
  9. I've noted with chagrin most hotels have dropped offering individual shampoo bottles and mini soaps in favor of big dispensers. I guess the switch reduces plastic waste, but I prefer the old way. How about you?
    1 point
  10. From Pattaya Mail The deputy commander of Thailand’s Tourist Police Division told Pattaya officers to respond quickly to problems and to learn from prepandemic challenges so that they don’t reoccur. Pol. Maj. Gen. Pongsiam Meekanthong met with Pattaya officers Feb. 22 before heading out to check Bali Hai Pier. He inspected boats to ensure life jackets were being used and that boats were running on time. Pongsiam said that, since Thailand reopened last year, the Tourist Police Division has ramped up efforts to protect tourists, doing everything from launching its 1155 hotline to putting “dos and don’ts” signs in hotels to warn Pattaya visitors about pickpockets and other street criminals. Pongsiam said now that Chinese tourists are returning to Thailand, even more care must be taken. He personally planned to be at U-Tapao-Rayong-Pattaya Airport on Feb. 25 to welcome a large Chinese tour group and had checked their itinerary to ensure safety. Finally, Pongsiam said officers should review incidents that tourists had in 2019 to create processes to prevent such accidents, scams and problems from reoccurring.
    1 point
  11. There used to be some politicians, even in the Republican party, that I could respect, such as John McCain. Those are becoming a dying breed. I'll never forget the 60 Minutes story which showed that Congress members, who used to spend most of their time in their offices, now spend most of their time in their party's campaign buildings drumming up support.
    1 point
  12. reader

    Babylon-like Sauna?

    I agree that reviews shouldn't be taken as gospel but you've got to start someplace, especially when members aren't reporting any recent experience. That leaves the time-honored--and best--method of satisfying one's curiosity about any venue: spend the 200 baht and just go there and find out for yourself. The glass may turn out to be half-full but there's only one way to find out for sure. That also limits any potential prejudice to just your own and then you can report back here for the benefit of other members. It's not rocket science. 😃 Using the search engine. I did locate a dated (2013) post about 39 Underground from our moderator. In this photo, the sauna is at the far end of soi. Large cinema known for gay sex cruising is on your left. Out of frame are some all-male massage shops on right side. Here's some other photos: https://ja.world-gay-guide.com/thailand/pc/detail/index.php?rainbow_no=170
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  13. If I were you, I’d consider still being firm but being kinder and gentler, so as not to come across as a rude and condescending guest in another country — which could get you in a world of trouble with the wrong person. This weekend, at Ipanema Beach, I witnessed a beach vendor (hocking his henna tattoos) pull a knife on, and curse and yell violently at, a white, slim, and clearly visibly gay male tourist who dismissively shrugged off his sales pitch for a temporary tattoo
    1 point
  14. joshhb

    Island recommendation

    I think you need to state what type of island you want. If you want luxurious hotels and upscale restaurants, then Phuket and Samui are for you. If you want more local ones, then there is much more choice. Although Samui and Chang are easy to get to, the Samui and Trat airports are privately owned by Bangkok Airways, and therefore priced as a monopoly. Driving outside of Bangkok is very straightforward. Just make sure you have an international driving license. On my next visit in May we are going to drive to Hua Hin for a few days, then up to some national parks near the Myanmar boarder. Last time we flew to Chiang Rai and did a great road trip of the NE - Highlights were the boarder roads above the Wild Boar Tham Luang caves. Having a car gives great freedom to roam near or far from the sea.
    1 point
  15. Londoner

    Island recommendation

    I believe that the boat only operates in the high season and you're right; it's difficult. The photos are stunning though. Koh Samui has some beautiful beaches and top-class hotels. Best to take a friend with you!
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  16. I've seen and read a lot about straight guys getting ripped off or set up in the Philippines, my belief is too much drink and they let the little head over rule the big head too much.
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  17. But exceedingly easy to be a total idiot by showing any commercial sex worker a wad of money and then leaving it alone even for a few seconds. Reminds me of the scene from that wonderful movie "Thelma and Louise" where Louise beds the handsome Brad Pitt character who then steals the brown packet containing $5,000 for the girls' getaway when she idiotically leaves him alone in the room to tell Thelma what a ball she's had with this stud!
    1 point
  18. PeterRS

    Babylon-like Sauna?

    There was a two-page article in Business Traveller Magazine some years ago about how Tripadvisor and other such similar sites manipulate reviews. Basically it claimed "Don't trust them!" Any review comprising one or two lines will always be suspect in my book. I recall writing to Tripadvisor in North America after I had spotted what were certainly fake reviews - about 20 of them. More than half relatively quickly disappeared. All concerned the Marina Bay Sands in Singapore, that mighty monolith with the rooftop pool stretching across its 3 towers. (I stayed there 11 years ago when a guest at a Conference. Ghastly hotel - 25 minute wait for check-in, 10 minute waits for lifts, 20 minute queue for breakfast, a pool with half of Singapore behind watching you and a premium non-smoking room with cigarette burns all over the place). But that hotel is one of the city state's key projects. When its powers-that-be realised it was the lowest ranking 5-star hotel in Singapore on Tripadvisor by quite a margin, it obviously got all its contractors, PR people and others to write these silly fake reviews. Sadly they worked. The hotel jumped from over 60 in the rankings of all hotels to the mid-30s. I see that today it has fallen back to #47. The point is that many reviews in gay travel magazines are equally not to be trusted. Not because they may be false. More because many gay travellers have very different expectations of what a bar or especially a sauna should be like. I think one reason many older regular farang liked Babylon in its second incarnation was that it was as much a social hang out with its bar, restaurants, pool, gym and plentiful cruising. Sex was almost secondary, whereas for the younger crowd sex was probably the prime reason for visiting. Take Travelgayasia, a site which I believe gets a lot of things wrong. As others have said several times, by far the most active and fun sauna in Taipei is Soi13in. That site claims it used to be the Rainbow sauna. Wrong! That sauna's latest review has this - "“Went lat [sic] night and the steam room was cold, the dry sauna was cold, half of the rooms were closed and even after asking the staff, they said it could not be open. Yet you pay the full price!! Avoid this place, it is a scam to make money and deliver no service!!!“ Admittedly this was inserted during covid on 24 June 2020 but within Taiwan the island had basically not been affected by covid then. 4 reviews later you find this from 6 December 2019, "I've visited many gay saunas in Asia but surely I will vote for Soi13in is the best of the best." Almost all reviews are on the lines of this second one. It will have been noted that neither of the above reviews is from a recent patron (although @hojacat in the Taipei thread has posted much more recent rave reviews). The review posted by @reader of 39 Sauna in Bangkok above is also very dated - it's virtually 4 years old. A great deal can happen in 4 years. I do not trust a site with no more recent reviews during the rest of that pre-covid year and the more recent opening up. I'd much rather trust the latest reviews from members here.
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  19. Austere is a good word but I find rooms at Rose had all I need- desk, safety deposit box and working quiet AC. There was no kettle but I'm always prepared for such eventuality. Washbasin in the toilet was too low but that's small nuissance. Room a was much more spacious than claustrophobic one at Ibis Styles or Quarter Silom so I opt for Rose at half of their price any time. Empty courtyard felt strange but again , how much time we would spent admiring it, grand total 3 minutes per day ? so to answer question above , I like the Rose and it was relatively cheap ( ~40 $), few dollars more then Baan Silom , few dollars less than my favorite Furama Sathorn
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  20. gayinpattaya

    45 days visa exempt

    Nothing has been confirmed yet in any Thai media. I personally think they would be stupid not to. It's certainly helping people I talk to lengthen their trips before return back to the west.
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  21. scott456

    Babylon-like Sauna?

    A lot of reviews on TripAdvisor are fake, paid by the hotel/restaurant/tour operators. Years ago I made negative review on a restaurant in Buenos Aires. Sure enough, there was another review to counter my factual points soon after my review.
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  22. reader

    One Bangkok

    Sixty-seven years ago people thought the Patpongpanich family was crazy to buy an agricultural plot on the outskirts of Bangkok which is today known as Patpong. A half-century ago many would argue that there was no need for the Dusit Thani Hotel, which has since been razed to make way for a new development. I agree that the old places that are being replaced by One Bangkok served its citizens and tourists well and have a place in the hearts of those fortunate enough to have patronized them. As the saying goes, no body likes change, including me (the Dusit Thani was my favorite hotel on the few nights a trip I could afford the splurge). Now as to the question of "need", that will be determined by how the public and business community respond to the new opportunities presented by One Bangkok. I had an affection for many of the now extinct landmarks in US cities (particularly the infamous sex theaters and peepshows of old Times Square 😉). I suspect there are Londoners who still detest the development Canary Wharf. As I write this, Central World--one of the city's great shopping meccas--is undergoing a remake. Personally, I can't see the need for it. It already outdistances anything I can find at home.
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  23. @Marc in Calif, no need to be confused, you can just go try those wild parties in Europe. Now I don't get excited about parties in Asia or Brazil anymore. I still go to them occasionally, but they would be more of something to kill time rather than having good times, I don't get excited about them. I am in Brazil now, I chose to relax in my hotel tonight (a Saturday night) rather than going out to a highly recommended club, because I just came from Europe last week and had wild parties there.
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  24. You are 125% right but lesson for me , despite of all troubles described above is : if you really like boy, go for it, watch your back and don't miss troubling signs but go for it. If I follow point 4 in case of HC , birthday boy, who on previous trip dumped me over trivial issue of phone overuse I'd miss one of most rewarding offs of my all trips to Thailand. "Prince charming" case was adventure in nature of trade, goal was missed , money spent wastefully but for me it was worth trying. I'm glad I did. If I was smarter I should cut if off right after strange request to change flights. But knowing myself for many years, after all they don't call me KFC man for nothing, I know if I did I would live with feeling I missed boat. I rather live with knowing I missed boat. Small difference but I feel better because being sure is better then being in doubt.
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  25. day 14 part 2 Our choice of bar for tonight was Jupiter but when we went there it was only singer and few customers inside , too early for boys so we switched to Moonlight greeted warmly by barkers outside. A , the hunk happened to enter stage exactly at the moment when we got our drinks so I did not waste a time and called him over right away and secured him for off later tonight. It worked for both of us as I wanted to see the show and he had short meeting with some client who invited him just for a meal. Fact confirmed bit later by mamas an who wanted to be sure I understand why A need to disappear for hour or so. One of boys on stage was guy whom I recognized as former New twilight dancer and when commented to A that I like his look quite a lot he suggested I take him as well vouching he is great guy. It’s not first time A plays mentor role and tries to promote his bar friends so we can’t say he is selfish. Shortly A finished his drink and went for his meal meeting, promising to be in hotel in hour or two. Radek who arrived only yesterday evening started to feel jet lag so we shook hands for good bye and left too. All of the sudden I was lonely in the full bar so I called buy in question from the stage , bought him a drink ., learned that he is Lao so which endeared him to me bit more as I have almost universal good time with Lao guys, must be something in their water. Asked him about going with me and A and it turned A already primed him about such an option because he confirmed right away he is ready. So I decided to skip what was left of show and we went to hotel. Not as hunky as A or Moonlight models but still very well built and commanding quite good English he turned as great guy as I hoped for. Long ago , independently , American, Soviet and Burkinabe (from Burkina Faso, Africa ) scientists noticed that very often we find our best boys on last or second last night of our trips. That New Twilight transplant seems to be another proof supporting such discovery. Hour later I went downstairs to escort A to the room , guy on reception did not even blink an eye. It 2nd time in row I have A in the room on my last night and great conclusion to such short but rich in turns of action trip .
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  26. Day 14 I set alarm because I did not want to be late at MahaNakhon at agreed 10 am and today is my hotel moving day so right after breakfast at Ibis downstairs I need to pack. Released room leaving luggage for storage at reception and marched to Mahanakhon when I was surprised to see K already as agreement was he will pick up Radek from his hotel and they arrive on his motorbike. Clearly misunderstanding on K part Soon Radek showed up and we went up . Ticket the same , 250 senior over 60 , 880 the rest. Another place where is plainly visible that tourism picked up, gone are days when in the morning there were just few people. After admiring views, quite foggy day today unfortunately and taking obligatory picture on the glass to make family and friend jealous we went to Amazon near Chong Nonsi BTS for a coffee and sandwich and from there I went straight to Jey Spa for my 1 pm massage with Maii arranged yesterday. While first session about week ago was very good , today was nothing short of excellent. Benefit of us being familiar with each other. Great consolation after last night fiasco, part massage , part romantic, exactly how things should be . Worth every penny of 1250 massage fee and 1800 min. tip enhanced by me by 400 as I was truly happy with experience and fact that finally pain I was feeling in my left leg ever since my long 16 hours flight was gone. I walked few steps along the soi when Maii stopped on his motorsai and gave me lift to the BTS station as a bonus I guess. I returned to Ibis , liberated my suitcase and rolled her to Convent to my next digs, Le Siam ( formerly Swiss hotel ). I got room on 7th floor with a view. Room sizable, well furnished, spacious walk / roll in shower. I’m sure if price will be right I will stay there again . It’s only very short walk from Silom so location is excellent and as we will learn later no problem with visitors. I said visitors , not visitor, understand ? Yesterday I reported about guy I sped in Thai Relax in soi 6 so I went there and on approach my heart beat increased as he was seating at front. Bingo ! NOP. He said he is booked and suggested I take his friend sitting nearby. Disappointed but not wanting to create lose of face I agreed. Massage was good , not that freshly massaged by Maii at Jey I need one and guy quite pleasant but hunk or axe murderer he was not. Only when I returned home I learned from other member who hired him few times that I missed plenty indeed as hunk turned excellent in both body and skills. At least I know where I got first next time in BKK. It was late afternoon and I was till running on that coffee and sandwich but We were supposed to have dinner with Radek at Foodland but he went too far and Lined me is sitting already at G’Bangkok in soi 4 so we treated ourselves with meal and conversation there. Then seeing restaurant is busy we released table and moved across the soi to Banana club outside for a beer and more talk. day 14 to be continued
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  27. From The Thaiger Thailand introduced a law on Friday which requires passengers to sit down when travelling on a songthaew, a popular form of public transport. However, songthaew drivers say the law is detrimental to their livelihoods and are worried it could lead to extortion. A songthaew is a passenger vehicle converted from a pickup truck with two rows of seats. Songthaews have been used as a cheap form of transport for decades in Thailand, and are often packed out with passengers standing or hanging off the back. The new law, published in the Royal Gazette, aims to make the songthaew experience safer for everyone involved. But drivers say it’s impractical and uneconomical. Songthaew drivers spend 800-1000 baht on fuel per day so they need as many passengers as possible since most journeys cost 8 baht, or a little more depending on the province.
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  28. Can you tell us about your experience?
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  29. gap1972

    Rio/São Paulo 20231

    Another wonderful trip to Brazil ended on a 202 Wednesday. My flight is at 10pm, so went early around 4pm, planning to leave before 7pm. A pleasant surprise, my 2021 favorite B came in at 4:30. He gave me a hug and kiss then went upstairs. The boy is twink to a T. I loved my 2peat with him in 2021. our encounters in my 2022 trip was not as satisfying. The boy couldn’t suck or bottom nearly as good. But he looks just as adorable. 5 minutes later he still hasn’t come down so I went upstairs to check. He was in top floor, top off, lying on a sofa, browsing his phone. I sat down with him, we kissed again. Over google translate he said he is too high at the moment. I love how his tongue dancing in my mouth, boners don’t lie, I am very attracted to him. We chat over the phone, and he confessed his ass hurts and can’t bottom today. This is a little bummer. But we can still have a good time if he works harder with his mouth. He concurs and we went to room. From the kiss when he came in, till we were done, another great 202 hour! my new favorite from last Wednesday didn’t show, was hoping to have a repeat with him. There are two new faces I somewhat like tonight, one muscular handsome black boy, he is quite popular, I suspect he might be a top. The other slim black boy with a lovely smile, but a little feminine, I was not too sure. Another packed night. I am happy just browsing the room, time flies, soon it’s 6:30. Decided I am happy enough to call it the end of this trip. Back to the hotel in Catete, 7pm Uber is 20% pricier due to traffic, still a very reasonable 52R, thanks to technology. even though without Fragata, São Paulo is a little disappointing this time. Thankfully 202 is still going strong. A few more good memories made.
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  30. Riobard

    Rio/São Paulo 20231

    Probably, as you love attention while not worrying if a joke lands. It may have been on one of your better days when you may have had a breakthrough and written something semantically accurate like: ‘Have I asked if you speak and write similarly?’ Whether and if are often acceptably interchangeable but whether usually denotes an alternative and you were implicitly dismissing the alternative to your assumption none exists. However, if I am to take you at your word today I would say that my vocal cords are typically not activated as I write. I say typically because I find myself uttering “asshole” as I write this.
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  31. colom-bien

    First time in Rio

    kn5 - I LOVED your posts. So honest, vulnerable and real. I'm traveling to Rio for the first time in April and hope I can do as well as you, sharing all my experiences.
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  32. gap1972

    Rio/São Paulo 20231

    Bused to São Paulo on Friday. While bus is comfortable, had hours of traffic jams. 9am out of Rio, didn’t get to São Paulo until 6pm. A quick shower, Uber to Lagoa. A rather slow night. A few fresh faces, but more like Rio Meio Mundo level. munch less energy compared to last May. Left in an hour or so without hit. Maybe it’s because tomorrow they have bingo? 202 also has a big event on Saturday. I don’t follow 202 that much, but I remember last May when I was in Rio, there was a dead Friday and it was also because a party is planned the following day. Maybe 202 is giving up on Fridays and shooting for making Saturday the 2nd best day of the week? Some thunder and rain 4-6pm on Saturday, bad timing. Thankfully it lightened up by 6, just drops here and there with cloudy sky. A comfortable 26c or so. Made to Lagoa around 6:15. A couple customers are already leaving! A couple more new faces, but this is rather disappointing. Perhaps it has something to do with they raise the boys’ fee to 25? Or is it the weather? A good surprise is T is in the house, one of my old favorite from Fragata! Had many good times with him between 2017-2019. The boy has slim and completely smooth sun tanned bronze body, light blue eyes and hasn’t aged at all at 28, same boyish look as when I first met him. We hug and kiss, laugh about how long it has been since we last met! Not seeing any new face that stands out, I am happy with refreshing my memories with T. The boy loves deep throat and chocking himself, and it felt amazing. I love it when a boy has a boner pointing up while he is sucking🤩, his cock jumps when he chokes. And wonderful Brazilian rim job. His hole is hairless as well, tiny smooth round opening. I love it when his eyes meet mine in the mirror during fucking, he flashes a joyful smile 😊 later he switches from doggie to legs up, after I finish, I took another look at his hole, amazing it’s turning back to the tiny round opening! B, my favorite new 202 twink from 2021, would have a somewhat gaping hole afterwards. I suppose T is a much more naturally talented bottom 🤓 Surveying the room a few more rounds before exiting. No one stands out. A little sad, Lagoa was the place that used to have some real stunners! IE: Igor Miller. And cute college boys now and then. This feels quite a slump. Unlike in 117 or 202, I didn’t have to wait for a room here. While 202 seems to have fresh supplies of new boys, is São Paulo turning more online? Hope this is not an omen of an end. I so miss Fragata.
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  33. BlkSuperman

    SOUNDS OF SEX!

    So I'm going through my phone and deleting files and came across this recording of my husband and I doing a 3sum with a sexy brazalian I've known for a few years. His cousin was supposed to join us, but thankfully he didn't because this hot stud was too much for the both of us to handle. #ENJOY InShot_20230127_224123703.mp4
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  34. kn5

    First time in Rio

    202: as a smoker - I like the lay out at club 117 much more than point 202- the boys hang out at the bar more , there is music and good drink - smoking area in 202 is dead town ! also at point 202- boys is more skinny , slim fit , younger crowd , not muscular - but fit at club 117- they are in my opinion much more muscular from working out to steroid user to Body builder - big trap, big arm and big leg with a few slim fit Met my buddy Archer again - I got so many tips from him in person - do I use it ? Oh well , I will learn and use it on my next trip in April I had a tons of great sex in point 202 - but I think it is a slow night at point 202 - I feel like there is more customers than boys ! At 9pm- there is a show with drags queen and a stripper ! He is so hot , I got his number and plan for some more fun later I never had this much sex before in my life , almost all of the fuck I have here feel like the best sex I’ve ever had - there is just so many of them and so many options ! time to head for dinner - somehow the minutes I left point 202, a sense of empty hit me - I feel like I must write this report , I must share my feeling for strangers on the internet since I don’t think I can share it in person with my friend or family I am start to wonder - am I this repulsive ? I’m at 37 years old and have never been in a relationship that last more than 6 months - I work out every single day so I can have some validation and some sex on Grindr - I travelled from far flung country in the world so I can sex with hot men , get their valuation , attention and at some point love ! I think I’m very successful business wise , but I guess I have to learn money don’t buy me love nor happiness ! So many feeling - so much emotion - I understand how stupid and naive I am sound ! But I guess it is problem for another day ! Last night in Rio , the air smells so fresh here for me ! The restaurant is full of hots gay guy ! So many eye candy ! but hey - Great fuck all trip long - I keep count with one more tonight 27 times of great sex ! Like massage in Thailand - fucking is done very well in Brazil !
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  35. kn5

    First time in Rio

    Sunday : I feel like I need to get a bit culture since I arrived in Rio , I did nothing , but beach , restaurant and sauna - I did a walking tour with free walking tour group - I was nice , informative and great way to check out Centro! Beach for the rest of the day , then club 117 again , it was a slow night for 117- I felt like there might be more boy than customer I did the first session with my first one in sauna again and it was heaven - he is my top three guy here in Rio then I found him - my kind of guys. I don’t know how to explain - I see handsome guy , I see hot guy, I see gorgeous guy - somehow he is really my kind of guy - he took my breath away when I saw him - it sounds so sad typing it out !! I don’t want my first time with him to be in the sauna !! I don’t need to discuss with him about money , I told him I want him for the rest of the trip - p pay him whatever he wants - I had the best sex all night long - at this point , my sanity is gone - I’m completely in love with him !!!!
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  36. kn5

    First time in Rio

    Saturday : A cloudy morning in Rio - a bit background about myself - I have zero self confident and no self control - constantly craving for love , affection , validation - so you understand the thing I do - sometime I don’t get it but I guess at the moment - my Dick controls my whole body ! Ok back to my trip - met with Archer here to a little beach time - he gave me some more tip about Rio - club 117 - did the first session with my favorite types of body : slim fit , slight hairy , but such a long penis - it was fantastic - I was chilling in the area then someone approach me and offer massage - I said ok - massage , no sex - we went to room - it was the worst massage I’ve ever had - he had not a clue of what to do - he spend the next 10 minutes - trying to seduce and fuck me - he is really not my type- I ended the session short and pay him - I don’t think I feel confident enough to dispute Staying a bit more then finish the night with another Great fuck ! Walking out of that sauna , I feel confident , happy and somehow contend -
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  37. I stayed at a gay hotel - Arthur & Paul. A really boutique hotel with only 5 rooms. It's not "gay friendly"; it's gay: rooms have names of masculine pairs; decorative nudes; an immaculate gay sauna, including jaccuzzi and private cubicles; and 6 handsome youngsters doubling as staff and massuers. Indeed, the bellboy who led me to my room offered himself almost explicitly (too efiminate for my taste). I hadn't settled down yet, and a grindr msg appeared from another hotel massuer. He offered himself, explaining massage costs $20 (to hotel), and if there is any sexual activity - additional 20 to him. He also answered that he doesnt suck (my favorite HE). Later, to be on the safe side, I discreetly inquired at the reception and was given the same info, and that sucking is "up to boy". Went to tour the sauna and sit in the jaccuzzi. There were about 12 young local eye-candies. Never witnessed such a reserved sauna atmosphere: absolutely zero interaction btw them - no smile, no wink, no word, no hint, no touch. They just kept walking around, no action at all. They also wore bathing shorts beneath their towels. I was later told locals never approach each other. So why go to a sauna... ? Same scene the next night. Not being a local, I striked up a limited dialogue with a guy in the jaccuzzi. Soon we were groping each other, and then moved to grope more freely in a cubicle; me being the proactive one. He was really terrified of onlookers. By 23:00, when I opted for a massage, only 2 of the 6 were left. I chose the not-efiminate one. The massage room (like all hotel and sauna facilities) was excellant. So was the massage, both the therapeutic and the sensual. We hardly spoke. He took it for granted I was interested in a HE, and proceeded to give me a great swallowing BJ. Maybe he had heard something from the receptionist. I tipped him 30 instead of the 20. I got a preview of Vinapu's report, in which he mentions two saunas with same payment structure. I figured "why try them out when I have inhouse service....." Also, received a fair amount of non-pay apps solicitations, mainly thru grindr. In all, during my 3n/3d here, had two apps appointments and 2 massages. On Bkkmfj's recommendation, the second massage was a 4-hands (first time for me). Great sensation, and I loved the way they fit their dicks (one rather flacid, the other rocket-like) into my palms on both sides. There's no in-room phone, but I guess one can reserve in advance a service for a morning boner before getting out of bed... (-:
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  38. You're asking for trouble. ONLY go to the well discussed saunas and rent your 'straight' guys there. Especially for a newbie, it is the safest and easiest way to enjoy the men of Brazil.
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  39. Well now I don't know what to do! haha. I am traveling to Brazil to experience my first ever rentboy encounters. I can't stop looking at all the guys on the escort sites a lot. So many hot guys. I have a real fetish for straight men it seems, never really been with one. I don't want to bring guys back to my place, and kind of liked the idea of going to someone else's place for an encounter. I guess I may try one of the love motels.
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  40. (part 13) The story of 2 unfriendly boyfriends It was a rainy night in Jomtien Complex. Rain wasn't heavy but non-stop for hours. Most bars in the soi were empty. Many boys didn't bother showing up for work and pickings were slim. Wet and cool weather put me in the mood for a massage, so I put up my umbrella and checked out the nearby places. I saw no one at Soda but there were 2 boys standing in front of No. 1 Massage, both of whom I never saw before. Both are cute in different ways. The shorter one was medium-built with a cute face and poreless complexion. The taller one has a slim, taut body and big eyes. While I was approaching, Taller threw a cold glance in my direction then walked away. Not a friendly way of greeting potential customers. Shorter stayed put but didn't look any friendlier, avoiding eye contact as much as he could. Normally, I would give it a pass and look somewhere else as friendliness rates very high in my book. But the rain didn't give me much choice and boy was my type. So I stopped and said hello. Fortunately, Shorter's English is quite good (would be hard to try Google translation outdoor in that weather) and he himself was talkative. His name is S, 25 years old, from somewhere near Bangkok. Today was his first day working in No. 1 Massage but no customers because of the weather. "How much do you want for a massage with happy ending?" "1200, but no sex" What, do we have other kinds of happy ending that do not involve sex? Turned out by "sex" he meant anal f*cking. He can kiss, suck and chuckwow. That worked for me. So I asked him to go with me to my hotel. "No, I only do it in the shop. I don't go customer's place." It was only around 11pm something but his shop already closed due to lack of business. It looked like we can't do it that night. "How about the other boy? The one who was with you just before now. Does he go to customer's place?" "He's my boyfriend and he's same same. No go outside" Interesting, what he just said reminds me of Boy No 6 and his boyfriend (reported in parts 8 and 10) who have been working in the same go-go bar in Bangkok and who doesn't mind the other going with customers. Anyway, that doesn't solve the problem at hand. "Look, my hotel is right there" I point in the direction of Agate, which is literally 20 meters from where we was standing. "You have nothing to be afraid of." S looked unsure. I think he really could use a customer that rainy night but the idea of venturing outside the safety of his shop somehow scared him. So we stood there for ten more minutes in the rain while S debated the pros and cons. He talked to another co-worker in Thai, then made a call to (later he told me) his boyfriend. Finally, he said "Ok, I can go. But promise me you don't try to fuck me in the room." Do I look like that desperate rapist, who wouldn't even spare a goat??? Inside my room, things got much better as I usually have a way of putting people at ease and and making them open up. S started working on my legs and back, while telling me about his relationship. His boyfriend is 3 years younger than him at 22, and they've been together for nearly 5 years. Impressive. It looks like their relationship is going strong (No 26 and his boyfriend been together for only about 6 months). That long time also means it's easier for them to handle a sexually open relationship. S has been doing massage job for almost 2 years. He and his boyfriend made a deal: they can do almost everything with customers but no fucking either way. S is bottom and his boyfriend (who started the relationship with S when he was barely 18) is the only one who can f*ck him. That's why he didn't do out-call lest a customer force him to do something he's not willing to. "Then why you go with me?" "Because you don't look like a bad person" (by "bad" I think he meant "goat rapist") "and farang customers are big" I think I can connect the dots. I have the same body type as his boyfriend, smaller than his so he thinks he could handle me if things go rough Still, when S jumped on top of me for the after-massage part, he checked again "Promise you won't try to fuck me" Something must have happened in his "massage career" for him to be that careful. I just rolled my eyes. What could I do? He was even on top of me. Unless he tries to sit on my flag... Anyway, S kept his end of the deal. He did everything else, vigorously. Sucking, kissing (very much into kissing), jerking off (he came all over my body) and more importantly, he did it with feeling. I feel we really connected that night. I also kept my end of the deal of doing nothing around his bottom area although my other end kinda hoped that S would sit on it. It was just an okay massage but with a very happy ending. Later, we showered together and he touched the hickey he left near my collar bone, smiling and saying "Sorry". He could be sweet if he wants to. "Don't worry, I won't show it to your boyfriend." Speaking of whom, I checked with S if I can also do his boyfriend. Actually I enquire if I can engage his boyfriend's professional service as a masseur at an appropriate time in the future. "Yes, but he is not friendly" When an unfriendly person claims that another person is not friendly, that's saying something, isn't it? "Well, I can tell. Before he looked like he wanted to kill me." S laughed and gave me his boyfriend's contact. They share a rented room right there in Jomtien complex so they should be available anytime. Staying true to himself, S was back to being cold and distant the several times I walked by the massage shop in the next few days. I never saw him greet a customer, eyes always glued on his phone, avoiding all eye contact. He never noticed me if I didn't call out his name and when he did, didn't even acknowledge it with a smile. Does he really expect customers to pick him just based on cuteness? Since then I was a bit worried about how things would go with S's even unfriendlier boyfriend. We made arrangements to meet at the hotel lobby a few nights later. Throughout the awkward silence of the ride up in the elevator, I kept thinking "Was it a mistake to do this?" Once in the room, he silently stripped down to his underwear and all my wistful thinking went out of the window. His body looked exactly my type (S was a bit too chubby for my taste but he had a cuter face to make up for it). So I decided I'm gonna just enjoy his massage and his body despite the apparent lack of connection. Then I noticed he fumbled around, trying to open a bottle of oil massage with slightly trembling hands. "Are you nervous?" "Yes, my first time in hotel. We don't go hotel before" Then I remembered seeing his profile pictures wearing all Uniqlo clothes. "Do you like Uniqlo?" His face brightened at the mentioning of his favorite brand. "Yes, very much" "Me too. Big fan. Half of my clothes are Uniqlo" I even got up, opened my suitcase and showed him my collection of Uniqlo apparel. Now he truly smiled. The ice was broken. Boyfriend of S's English wasn't as good as that of S, but he survived simple conversations. Again, we talked about his relationship. They met online in a game, got talking and fell in love after just one month, and been together since. They were both from poor families, so still have to support their parents back home. They shared all the money they made but didn't make quite enough so if S's mom gets the money this month, Boyfriend's mom would receive money the next. Unlike S, Boyfriend kept his underwear on the whole time he was doing my back. When it was time for me to turn around, I felt he was warmed up enough so told him to take off his underwear. To my surprise, something already stood at attention, saluting me. I think I found the friendliest part of his body. Understandably, things just got better, even better than with S, because Boyfriend was more of my type. Like S, he was also very much into kissing. His cock is shorter but much thicker than that of S - this couple really complement each other in many ways (except for the friendliness part). I think I know what you guys are now thinking. S would do a threesome, a four-hand massage with another boy but not with his boyfriend. Boyfriend wouldn't do any kind of threesome. I'm sure I want to do them both, but not at the same time. So we were all good. Although Boyfriend remained very hard throughout, he couldn't cum because he already came earlier during the day with his boyfriend (I was his only customer of the day). After, we also showered together for an amount of time inordinate for a normal rinse-off. We kinda played in the shower. Every time I saw his cock starting to get soft, I gave it a nudge and it was instantly back to a greeting position. And its owner, the unfriendly, cold and distant Boyfriend of S, kept giggling at the exuberance and friendliness of his cock, showing no sign of wanting to get out of the shower. Once we were done and said goodbye, Boyfriend gave me a hug (S gave me a hug and a lingering kiss on the lip so I think he still wins the friendliness competition), I gave his cock a final nudge and voilà - he left the room with a noticeable bulge in his loose pants. A minute later, Boyfriend sent me a smiling blushing emoticon through Line without any words. I checked if he was still hard. "Yes". I asked if he wanted me to come downstairs and make it bigger again. He replied with 5555. So much for being unfriendly huh. (to be continued)
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  41. (part 11) Another story of a failed threesome It all started in Boyztown when I fired up Hornet that afternoon and saw a fresh cute face just a short distance away. His profile says he's from Laos. So I said Hello, and he replied in English "I'm moneyboy. Give me 1000 Baht". Pretty turned off by this style of soliciting, I got off. A few days later, I saw that cute face again in Boyz Boyz Boyz, looking pretty much like his profile picture and in the same clothes. Liking what I saw, I struck up conversation again. He said he also recognized me from my Hornet picture. Turns out the first time we talked was his very first day in town and he wasn't yet well-versed in the subtleties of asking for money from prospective customers. All forgiven then. 22 years old, from somewhere near Vientiane, so far no customers yet and with very little money left (he even showed me his wallet: some changes in Thai baht and a note of 5 USD - probably his emergency fund). Since he asked for 1000 Baht before (big mistake), I offered "1000 Baht for short time, okay?" We proceeded to my hotel nearby. He got showered, then checked his phone, reading a new message, then turned to me "Can you give me 200 more for taxi" (already forgot he told me he had been staying in Tukcom, just a few minutes walk from my hotel). It looked like someone started giving him relevant tips. I was like "Ok" (I intended to give him the standard 1500 anyway, unless he's a total dud in bed). I liked both his face and his body, small but firm, and especially his very cute butts. His tool, on the other hand, is pretty... how can I say this nicely... well, it has a nice personality. This fact though gave me some self-esteem boost because mine looked quite huge next to his. As a top only, I care a lot more about the butts and belly area and usually have not much problem with small dick sizes as long as I don't have to use a magnifying glass to locate it. The bigger problem was that he came super super quickly. Just a few strokes then he gripped my active hand, stopping it from moving, and before I realized what happened, it happened. I had barely begun anything. "Why so quick?" He turned to google translation for help with explaining "I was too emotional". It was also pretty awkward at first when penetration began. He was totally clueless about how to position himself to ease the process. I got myself a bottom virgin or what? But once it was underway, he seemed to enjoy it - which was always a big turn-on for me. Two days later, when the Thai from X-boy ditched me for another potential off that did not materialize (see part 10, who, by the way, kept sending me messages day after day about how lonely he was, when I would be back, why make him wait so long - a week in between repeats seems like eternity to certain bar boys with not so many customers, promising he "wait me alone" this time etc.), I called the Lao as a last-minute replacement. Our second time went much smoother as we got to know each other a bit better. I was careful not to do anything to trigger his "short" fuse (in every sense of the word) to keep him hard through out before I finished. Once I came, it took me less than a minute to catapult him to climax. Quick as it might sound, I would say, he has come a long way from our first encounter. I gave him the same 1500 as the last time and he now asked for an extra 100 for taxi, which I obliged. Looks like he started mastering the subtleties of prying more money from easy-going customers. Back to Pattaya this time, I first stayed in Agate in Jomtien Complex. That evening, I fired up Hornet and again saw that cute face just a short distance away (let's call him Little Lao because he's indeed little). I thought he was a few kilometers away in Boyztown. Walking down the main soi, I soon found out why. Spotting him sitting with another Lao friend (whom I also saw working in Boyz Boyz Boyz last time) in Divarium, I stopped by. Buying drinks for both of them and a Thai, who massaged me last time in Soda. He has been freelancing at both places (I never quite get the difference between regular staff and freelancer in a boy bar. They both earned tips from drink and bar fine. It looks like regular staff have to report to work daily, are expected to be on time, and earns some bar allowance if they have no drinks or offs that night. Freelancers come and go as they wish with no allowance). The Thai speaks good English so I enlisted his help for translation when needed. So we talked. Little Lao and his Lao friend (let's call him Big Lao because he's taller and bigger) recently moved from Boyztown to Jomtien because "too many boys there" Little Lao said, "too much competition" Big Lao chipped in. In fact I was not only Little Lao's first customer, I was his only customer during the time he worked in Boyz Boyz Boyz. Although Big Lao (same age as Little Lao but looked younger) has a quite cute face and smooth fair skin, he's on a hefty side (1m74, 60 kg he told me) so not really what I'm into. My initial plan was to off Little Lao again. But I felt kinda bored that evening. Then the fact that they are from the same country, friends and also roommates, both worked in Boyz Boyz Boyz, reminded me of something. So I enquired further "Any of you has a brother, who's currently in Pattaya?" Both shook their little and big head. So there gone the grand idea of reconstructing a classic scene from a cult movie. For members who are not familiar with this reference, I included below a few lines from the movie's original transcript. Anyhoo, I carried on with the idea of offing both of them just for the heck of it. Double checked by asking them directly and then though the Thai's translation to make sure they had no problems with this arrangement. No problems, firmly confirmed. So I paid for my soft drink (60), three boy drinks (150 each, boy gets to keep 50), and two off fees (300 each, boy gets to keep 100), tipped the Thai 200 for his help with translation. We walked back to Agate at around 10.30 pm. Both receptionists were still on duty so they checked for Id. Little Lao carried with him the physical passport, Big Lao - only a picture on his phone. Both were accepted and no joiner fees were required (I booked a double room). Up in the room, both stripped down to their underwear. Little Lao was still little, Big Lao was indeed pretty big (I think he lied about his weight - should be at least 5kg heavier). Big Lao went to shower first and he took quite a while - at least 20 minutes. Little Lao and I cuddled a bit and I could tell he was getting hard just from my running fingers over his body. It seems he genuinely likes me. However, getting hard didn't mean nothing else is going on in his other mind. "So you f*ck me, or you f*ck him?" Based on what I saw them in underwear, I was pretty sure "I'll f*ck you only" He smiled as this was exactly what he was getting at. "If you f*ck me only, can I get more money?" Didn't sound like their bonded friendship was that strong. I calmly told him I needed to be fair and would give them equal amount this time. Next time, I would off only him and would give him more money. "Thank you" his voice was very soft, almost sounded like a child. He hugged me tighter and his little bird was now hard as a rock. So he genuinely likes me, but obviously not anywhere in the vicinity of his love for money. I feel embarrassed to tell you what happened next but I will anyway. My professor in Orgy-ology, vinapu, must have good laughs at my expense. In bed, the discussion continued re. who f*ck who. "I f*ck you, you f*ck him" was Big Lao's suggestion. "No I'm top only, so I f*ck him, then he f*ck you" was my counteroffer, which made Big Lao laughed his head off, so hard he almost fell off the bed (probably at the mere image of Little Lao's tiny prick poking at his immense bottoms). "How about you and I both f*ck him" was my other idea which is cue for Little Lao's turn to react unreasonably. "Noooo, I only let you f*ck me" He screamed, clinging to me for dear life. Since this wasn't going anywhere, we decided they both work on me first so I get ready to perform, then I decide who I wanna f*ck and the person who doesn't get f*cked chuckwow on his own. Two Laos then talked in their mother tongue and decided Big Lao take care the upper part, Little Lao - the lower part. Then we achieved a new level of awkwardness. None of them wanted the other to see his own junk, so Big Lao focused more on using the blanket to strategically cover his not-so-easy-to-cover body, while Little Lao kept his underwear on. After a while, I decided Big Lao turn to one side to chuckwow while I work on Little Lao under the cover. They then started talking to each other in their first language again, it was very distracting as nobody could keep it hard for long. At one point I had to tell them to shut up, but still, I couldn't finish. Seeing this was already a fiasco, to get it over with, I told them everyone chuckwow and no one could get up until he cum. That had an immediate effect on Big Lao, who stopped talking and kept at his task at hand. After a minute, Little Lao started talking again, only to be shut up by the glaring Big Lao, who now also found it in his way. Big Lao cum first. If we were in Nice Boys, he might have won that 300 Bath-prize. I finished second but it took forever for Little Lao, which is a big surprise based on past statistics. I figured out what might be problem and told Big Lao to shower first. Once he was out of sight, Little Lao achieved orgasm in less than a minute as usual. Now come to think of it, if only I told him there were a 300 Bath at stake, we might have a new world record. It seemed Little Lao's bed behavior was very different when his friend was around, and not in a good way, except for the money haggling part, which is in itself no good news either. When they were about to leave, I gave them their money. Big Lao barely glanced at his, but his eyes glued intently on what I gave Little Lao, probably to make sure that they received the same amount (he could tell I was more attracted to his friend). Again, didn't sound like the bond between the two was that strong, mutually. Once they were gone, I recounted my thick wad of remaining 1000 notes, telling myself "Never again", which exactly what I told myself after my previous feeble attempt at threesome. Some people just never learned. Before you all scoffed at me, I did learn my lesson. The next day, I was in Toy Boy, and again torn between two boys, both also from Laos (now it looks like I have a thing for Lao twinks), both attractive but in different ways. The first one, 26, more fair, worked in Toy Boy before Covid so he's pro (evidenced by the way he touched me in all right places right there in the bar). The second one, 23, more tanned and more toned, looked like he came straight from some paddy (indeed he was a farmer back home). Seeing what the other was doing, he also tried to massage me, awkwardly, using a bit too much of force. But his awkward shyness was actually what attracted me in the first place (and probably why I ended up being the first customer for quite a few boys in my life). After talking to them and knowing that First Lao got about 2 offs from the bar each week and Second Lao, only working there for less than a month, had no off yet and had so far survived on drink tips, I decided to off the Second Lao first. When he got up to get dressed, the whole bar cast cheered up for him, some even clapping, probably for winning his first customer. It looked like they were truly happy for him. Total expense (noticeably more expensive than Jomtien as this is Boyztown): 220 for my soft drink, 250 x 2 for two boys drink (boy gets to keep 100), 500 for one bar fine (boy gets to keep 100), 200 tip for the boy I didn't off (who accepted the missed opportunity gracefully) with a promise I'll off him next time, 40 x 2 tip for two other boys in underwear on stage, who tried pretty hard to get my attention, 50 tip for the mamasan who helped with the off, 20 tip left on the receipt folder, and last but not least, 1500 short time fee for the boy I picked. There was another mamasan, who had nothing to do with the whole process, shoved his hand to my face demanding tip to which I firmly said No. I checked to make sure Second Lao bring his passport. He did. However, this time, I brought the boy back to Agate quite late (around 11h30 pm), there were no receptionists on duty and hence no Id check. The one night guard sitting outside couldn't care less. Just got the above Hornet offer from probably one of the expats retiring to Pattaya. Straight to the point, zero social pleasantries, but with enough relevant information for people who need it. I feel flattered (someone still thinks I'm worth 1000B). It's also evidence that 1000 is the on-going rate some local expats would pay for short time service. Later I messaged a grab-driver-slash-money-boy, who asked for 2000 then quickly agreed to 1000 when I mentioned that "my local friends" only pay 1000. (to be continued)
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