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Day 5 I did not mention I will be leaving soon and there was no need as in the morning he rushed to his day time job , just giving me enough time to have breakfast and pack up . I had that bottle of red wine I forgot to give CCP and presented her to my tuk-tuk driver who took me to airport. He was quite surprised that his quoted fare of 8 $ included getting bottle, lol. Hope he did not try it on his way back to the city. Sitting on the plane all emotions related to this affair left me , all of then sudden I realized I have 5 days free to roam fortified with 30000 baht CCP decided to leave in my pocket by pissing on our deal. At noon I was in Swampy already. Immigration was breeze. Hour later I was checking into Rose. It was my first time there and I liked what I saw. Super location in quiet corner steps from Suriwong, room with the view. Only thing I did not like was washbasin in the toilet, way too low. Clearly aimed at people much shorter than I’m. I went for a stroll and crossing Silom I spotted one of boys known to me with handsome farang. Because we exchanged few PMs on the subject of said guy I suspected I knew who farang is but they were in rush and I had blackout forgetting farang’s nick so did not stop them either. Later on fired PM to him to confirm it was him and it was a case indeed. So to 31 forum members I met I add one whom I just passed by chance, lol. G’bangkok in soi 4 was busy so I went for dinner to Happy Beer Garden greeted warmly by one of waitresses who by coincidence had birthday today as whispered by other waiter. So treated her with big bottle of Chang. Then to Hot Male beer bar, had few drinks with P , my first night stand and then decided to check Jupiter’s show. Bar was packed. As always boys were first class look but smiles lacking, nothing new here .After show and it was midnight I decided to leave passing by few their guys standing by the door including one quite muscular and handsome like hell. I was already outside when Guardian Angel pushed me back inside so I asked that guy about drink. We sat down and made deal very fast. Boy drink and off fee 950, gave mamasan 1000 baht note and couldn’t get a change so after few minutes decided to leave. If somebody will wonder why on my next visit or two at Jupiter I will not tip , there’s answer, that self service. Boy, J, was hungry and suggested modestly Foodland but inside was less modest ordering their most expensive dish, some steak. No harm done and Bon Appetit. In the room was very active and pleasant. World is coming to an end, another Jupiter off I’m so happy with. I never thought I will live that long! Too bad he did not want to stay till morning. Tipped him generously though as it was well deserved but as always I denied request for taxi money. What was supposed to be my last night in PP turned to be my first in Rose. Nice to be back in Bangkok, it took less than a day for me to get over and forget whole CCP debacle like it never happened.

few pics from Rose hotel as it's rarely mentioned in the forum

no idea , I don't know those things but noticed unusually yellow eyes. It was , at end of day whole thing was covered by half full part of glass It's why I'm not bitter, as said above on recollection of first few days after he contacted me I still smile. Broadly. Sure I spend some money and it was mostly wasted as per specification above but may be it was just price for that dream. I suspect he may be losing more sleep then me over it as money he forfeited by those antics was , at least for Cambodia, substantial

I guess you must be right. It's still puzzling me that he forfeited whole deal as from financial point of view he was bound to make quite a buck based on our agreement. Clearly not enough for him I guess though You guys may be right but something tells me it was not a reason. He could simply suggest the I should pretend I don't know him and it's what I suggested but answer was very clear ' you should go first". lesson learned. I doubt I ever will forward money before slipping my hand into boy's jeans first. It was bit costly tuition but tuition it was. When one looks at whole financial side of the affair it was not him who benefited the most but various airlines. All he got was 200 $ for shopping and 15 $ for bringing me to the hotel from airport. Total 215 ? his ticket to BKK -175 $ my second ticket when he requested separate flight 80$, my third ticket when I decided to cut my time in PP short 75 $, bottle of wine 17$, money lost on cancelling original hotel reservation 10$. Total 357 $ And so did I. Risk was calculated indeed and I understood that it's on his side as well since we never spent really time together. It's why we ironed almost everything before I even set off. When I recall those first few days after we connected and how thrilled I was then I tend to think it was still worth expense and being burdened with subsequent disappointment. Call me stupid but I still smile. Yes , overall trip was very enjoyable and that affair while disappointed me , did not spoil my fun even close to degree one could expect. As I reported above , even my last night in PP was VERY pleasant and pleasing affair.

I guess fact that I arranged for trip well (about 2 weeks) before CCP even contacted me helped me to get over it fast. It would be different if I came all the way specially to be with him , that would be upsetting big time. His former bar friend was great consolator on my last night in PP , it helped too. Way it developed worst day of this trip was followed by second best if not best night. Vagaries of boy hunting ! Before I set off for PP I had a bit concern of how I keep CCP occupied in those 5 days so in some sense it was relief I don't need to worry about that too. Strange as it may sound I still like him but rest assured , not to a degree I would be pursuing him again , not to mention allowing to be manipulated in any sense. Old saying ' what doesn't kill you , makes you stronger " certainly applies here. I was thinking about keeping it for myself instead of making public how big fool I was but after giving it some thought I decided to tell story so other can learn and perhaps feel better. Most of us will still tend to think "I'm smarter and if I was vinapu I'd cut if off right away after (insert whatever moment )" I can live with being smarter than vinapu part but have some doubts if in circumstances everybody will be cutting deal off instead of trying to salvage it to reasonable degree as I tried unsuccessfully. I was not in love neither tried to be , all I was looking for was to spent week+ with guy I met and who made the best impression on me , both as person and as prime beef. Fact that he remembered our October talk and contacted me first was not only encouraging but thrilling too. So again , to quote Sophia from Golden Girls, while he turned bum, I still smile.

I like your analysis. It goes along my lines of thinking then and now. When I entered car he was clearly disappointed that I don't have that new shiny suitcase with me to a degree I was even surprised. Dark cloud going through his face was visible even if it was just second or two. Red flags were notice but I chose to take a chance and go ahead. In hindsight I should stop right there when request to change flights was made but I was not in mood to blow a deal I was dreaming about over such trivial matter. Now , after all dust settled I tend to think underscored part was his real motive. But if it was a case another question needs to be asked - why he told his former bar friend about that trip if he was not even planning to go ?

You maybe overly optimistic. As I have posted on the other site, those people used to spewing venoms in the Politics section there now have lost their outlets and it is bound to spill over into other parts of that site. My suspicion is money may be at the root of the differential treatment for certain posters at the other site. If you are a major donor, the site owner probably will be more tolerant toward infractions of rules.

Well he was planning to go to BKK with you as he told the other guy from the bar the plan. Usually it’s the least dramatic but most obvious reason. I’d guess He concluded (wrongly) you weren’t going to play along enough with his high expectations (didn’t send the further money or bring the case) and he decided to bail as he wasnt confident he would manipulate enough from it. looking forward to the rest of the report and your bouncing back

From Coconuts Bangkok The fight against Thailand’s draconian booze laws continues next month when a community of brewers gathers for what’s billed as Thailand’s “biggest craft beer event ever.” The inaugural Beer People Festival will run March 11 and 12 – inside The Street Ratchada shopping mall, where more than 200 labels will be shown off by brewers from throughout the country. Among the 400 expected flavors are barrel-aged mango papaya salad, tom yum soup, coconut and coffee stout, and more. Apart from craft beer, people can also expect to taste over 30 locally made liquors such as Thai whisky, rice whisky, and sato (Thai rice wine). The event is organized by the Prachachon Beer (“Beer People”) community that was founded four years ago by Thanakorn “Benz” Tuamsa-ngaim. Beer People Festival will run 11am to 9pm on March 11 and March 12 on the fifth floor of The Street Ratchada. The shopping mall is a short walk from MRT Thailand Cultural Centre. https://coconuts.co/bangkok/food-drink/bangkok-to-host-its-biggest-craft-beer-event-ever-in-march/

Day 6 After emotions of previous 5 days I decided to deflate a bit and take it easy. Today was day me and CCP were supposed to arrive. For a second I entertained an idea of going to Swampy and see if he arrived utilizing free ticket my courtesy but abandoned idea fast. Why bother ? And even if he did , what it would change? I wouldn’t even try to approach , even less to embarrass him. After lazy morning I left Rose and went back to Baan Silom. I liked Rose and it’s quite a option in area if price is right. Unpacking in Baan Silom I noticed my two bottles of red wine carried from home . Now, deprived option of seeing how it makes CCP horny I did not have much use of them but fortunately for the planet got idea who may utilize them and offered to gift to him , no strigs attached. Passing by soi 6 , I noticed M, former masseur on duty at Tawan is now in new 9-teen massage and promised to see him one day. Solitary lunch in Foodland at 3 pm , completely empty at that hour today and then decided to check Kman spa in Saphan Kwai. Since I had Line to one of their guys I messaged him asking if he is working today and he responded he will be on duty at 5. So at 5 I was there too. Massage as good as last time I was there and boy’s endowment was impressive considering he is quite diminutive twink but he is Myanmarese, you know ! Then some computer stuff and it was 9.50 pm when I noticed I should check some bars perhaps. From rotation it was Hot Male turn so went there, just in time for the show. Three veterans of previous offs came to greet me and one of them, Sam, I invited for a drink. I have soft spot for him ever since I took him to Grand Palace and he turned out to be truly interested in the place. I was not even in the mood for an off but wasting time is not my thing so asked him to go with me and judging by reaction it was exactly what he was waiting for. So of we went via Foodland where while he was contemplating what to order I swear waiter told him ‘ take steak , his boy last night had it and farang paid” So steak it was. Not particularly steamy night but after all that recent drama I guess I just wanted comforting warm body beside and he provided.

Oh dear August, the first one on my ignore list at the other site.

Why be so agitated about the voices of some clearly deranged people interjecting their hate into our community? It is because the coded language they speak is an instrument of violence. The leaders of organized political or social movements tell their followers that specific groups of people (the "others") is plotting to destroy civilized society. History tells us that if this message is repeated enough, loudly enough, often enough, and long enough it is only a matter of time before the bodies from the named scapegoated groups start to turn up . This is what the mods should have been concerned with. Not some superficial policing that does nothing at all except validate the power dynamic already in place.

and not sugar coating anything and giving the bad with the good.....

Your experience calls to mind a sports analogy. Although Man U is one of football's great clubs, on very rare occasions it takes the pitch but fails to score. Some might call it karma or just the odds of playing the game. And like that storied team, you surprise none of us by your penchant for picking yourself up and moving from setback to new beginning.

That is my problem, all I can do is to guess. Anyways it was fun dreaming about time together but such conclusion of the affair was in cards due to various stunts so while upset I was not that surprised , even less shocked. Just big time disappointed. Yes I picked up myself as soon as I left hotel to go back to Bangkok, boarded plane relieved it's over and as we will see , trip developed quite nicely up to the last off(s) included.

Very practical questions. My experience: 1. If you're going to buy a phone for the trip, but something used that draws less attention. 2. I understand Uber eats left Brazil. iFood is big but will not process international payments, at least never for me. I tend to use rappi but the selection is sometimes limited. 3. I try to use my phone to pay for most things using Google Pay. It's quick, works almost everywhere and I have not had my card cloned this way. For cash money, i like the ATMs inside any big, big bank during the day. There are guards inside and it's safer than street ATMs. There is also a big group of ATMs at GRU as you exit the international terminal. It's relatively safe to get cash there. I don't use money traders myself. 4. Love Airbnb's! I've never had an issue after seven or eight trips to Rio. 5. I've seen the kiosk in Rio and I'm SP, sometimes it's staffed sometimes not. If you can, just get Google Fi, then ask for a data only chip and put that in your throwaway phone. If you must do a chip, do it at the airport and not local cell stores where you often need a CPF/national id number. 6. I suppose this depends on how you're dressed. If you're in a towel you'll have to go back and no one will be surprised or upset. You can also stay in street clothes and carry some cash with you, not recommended though. Have fun!

WOW now we have an Inspector Clouseau mystery...

Bozo had decided that I was lying about my profession (I am a school teacher) and in a very stalker-Ish manner launched a series of personal attacks on my questioning my honesty about my job, my credentials, my character. It got to the point where he wa tracking my time on the site, posting it to the world, and telling everyone I could not be a teacher (he is obviously ignorant of so, so many things, haha) I never called him a moron, a bigot, a Nazi-lover, a racist.... although I probably did call him a fascist. That is not a personal attack - it is an accurate description of his political philosophy.

I only brought one guy , on my second night but no, not a problem at all. I met him on the street in front of hotel and we entered together. Guy on reception saw us waiting for an elevator for quite a while but did not care. No problem with guest at Saravoan in Oct 2022 either , night guard just opened gate and smiled oiled with some banknote.

I think if you don't pull weeds, the garden gets overrun and crowds out everything else. I don't think you can announce weeds are no longer permitted to be weeds and expect the garden to miraculously recover.

Thank you , YOU HAVE A GOOD HEART. as for pictures, no. I don't have such habit plus even if tempted I wouldn't post until I hear his side if the story as there's remote but still real possibility that by dumping and ghosting me he saved me from bigger trouble, either by coincidence or even by design.

Hello everyone, before I continue, I would like to clarify that I have ready dozens of Brazil posts in this forum and they are all very helpful. However I have some specific questions that I would like to ask 🙂 I still haven't booked tickets yet. 1. Everyone says to carry a cheap alternative phone, which one y'all recommend especially for uber? 2. Are there any food delivery apps? 3. Where do you exchange money at the airport? I see people talk about ATM but are there any currency exchange options at the airport (Sao Paulo or Rio)? 4. As this will be my first time, I would like to see at least the touristy spots, do you think an Airbnb Experience will be a safe option? 5. Is there a place to purchase a sim card with data at the airport (Sao Paulo or Rio)? 6. For GP saunas, is it the same as Barcelona Thermas, where you go back to your locker after the session to grab the cash and meet the guy and hand him the cash or is there a different method followed in brazil? Thank you so much

This BIG DICK BRAZALIAN TOP IS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. THE guy he's fukcing is the trainer from the hotel we are staying in. The trainer shut down the gym and came upstairs to take this AMAZING DICK. This guy comes into the apartment, gives me a hug, takes off his clothes, showers, watches straight porn on his phone and his dick is HARD AS A BRICK in a matter of seconds. HE'LL BE back at 9 tonight for me. Enjoy the clip below. I don't know why all of the empty space is happening. Still can't figure it out. Have another hot sex show at 5 p.m. will post those clips after they SKEET THEIR LOADS. VIDEO BELOW InShot_20221230_153835423.mp4

MTG is in many ways a perfect example of how a MAGA minority came to power. And why they lost power in 2018 and 2020 and 2022. And what they need to do to hold whatever power they have. Her district is R+22 on the Cook Partisan Voter Index. Which is even more ruby red than your lovely slippers, Oz. She won in her first 2020 primary with 40 % of the vote. Just like Trump won by simply cobbling together a plurality in 2016. Which is my guess of how he'll win the R nomination again in 2024. It's all about the base. MTG's district may be one where the most inflammatory candidate wins the primary. It may turn off the country as a whole. But it works in that district. In 2022 she won her primary with 70 % of the vote. The surprising thing is that, according to one legislative tracker, she is among the most moderate House Republicans. Not the most extreme. Ideology–Leadership Chart That chart isn't based on numbers. But if you put numbers on the x axis, with 0 being most liberal and 10 being most conservative, she'd be at 5.5. Not far from Josh Gottheimer, the least liberal "Wall Street" Democrat who is right in the middle. They come up with those rankings based on legislation. So it's not based on her QAnon-ish rants. Or her taste in fur. 🤫 Trump was also perceived in 2016 by many as a centrist/former Democrat/moderate type. So that is part of the mystery of MAGA to me. In theory, you could build a majority coalition combining White working class voters and Main Street capitalism. There's a rich tradition of that kind of populism in Georgia. Which didn't always work out so well for Blacks. But it did produce results. My biased answer is that the main result Trump and MTG are interested in is power for themselves. MTG recently complained that she made a lot more than her $174,000 salary before being elected. And the work her job requires leaves her "miserable." Poor thing! Maybe the voters will take that to heart next time and let her get back to CrossFit and QAnon. Georgia today is a great example of how NOT being extreme works. On the one hand, Gov. Brian Kemp's 2022 campaign hammered away at it's the inflation, stupid. Instead of buying into QAnon, he took on Trump's lies. And he won. Meanwhile, Warnock - using the same legislative tracker - was one of the most moderate voting Democrats. According to that tracker, Joe Manchin is the Senator who is smack dab in the middle. Warnock is just slightly to his left. Meaning more centrist than almost every other Senate Democrat. He spent half his time playing the role of Georgia's pastor. And the other half focusing on bipartisan deals to build roads in Georgia. Yeah, he's really a liberal. But he hides it well.

My guess is it's more that they just don't like the noise and conflict. I know that as a fact for several of the most prominent posters on the website overall. The ethos is: "We're gentlemen. And we don't like all this noise." When Bill died a member of the forum stepped forward and said he could fund the operations of the site. I'm not sure how that played out. If that in fact happened, it was a very nice gesture on the part of that member. And it's the kind of thing that is best left in the background. So they may accept donations, which is always a wise things to do. But I don't know that they need them. If my read is correct that transition very much reinforced the vibe that this is a bunch of guys who have this particular hobby. And that is what the website is primarily about. Like, maybe let's go hang out at a strip club together. Or compare notes on our Fidelity accounts. Other than that, we are not particularly political. We just like our hobby. We want to be left alone. And we will keep our heads down. That certainly was a big part of the reaction when Rentboy was busted. The vibe among the core people who hire a lot and are friends or acquaintances off the Web was we just want to keep our heads down. And hope we are left alone. Mostly, these are NOT the folks who are going to be on the LGBTQ political cutting edge. As an escort that interacted with them a lot, I just accepted it for what it was. I've always wondered how that website would survive without the companion review website that Bill ran on his own. And that I think always got much more traffic than the forum. The other ticking time bomb, though, is age. It's a group of mostly older or middle-aged men who came of age before The Gays won the culture wars. So I'm not sure most younger Gays, even ones who hire escorts, would buy the notion that we don't talk about politics here. One poster said it very well when the forum was shut down: "As Gay men, our very existence is political." I sure feel that way. But many people there don't. Funny, or not so funny, story. In early 2017 I took one of the most prominent posters there out to dinner. It was the first time I'd seen him since Trump won. I knew he'd voted for Trump. His main reason being the all purpose, "Of course, I couldn't vote for Hillary." So on the car drive there he started ranting a bit about how he just didn't even like opening up his Yahoo webpage. Because since the election there was all this noise and conflict. I asked him if he was upset at all the anti-Trump people bitching and moaning. And he said, No, it's not that. Okay. Is it that you think Trump is being divisive, and creating conflict? No, it's not that. Okay. Well, then what is it? I think he may have just blurted out, "I just don't like all the noise!" I'm not sure, but I think I may have asked him, "So what exactly did you expect when you voted for Trump?" Or maybe I just thought that, and politely kept my mouth shut. We changed the subject, and had a nice dinner. Since many of them were clients, and friends, I am pretty sure he speaks for a bunch of people. They just want to be gentlemen left to their hobby. That said, for a niche market, they may be doing - and continue to do - just fine. I hope so. It's a great place to meet up and share information and experiences about the core interest that brings them together.

I don't think that you made a full of yourself. planning long term trip with a guy is hit-and-miss , sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. I had been there too. I hope you learned your lesson not to send prepayments and if very unusual requests are coming from the guy ( like fly separately without reasonable explanation) cut the deal off immediately.

A large portion of Americans are gullible idiots. Why should Russians be any different?

From Pattaya News The chosen festivals are distinctive to their location, and are examples of the many unique and fascinating festivals that take place throughout Thailand each year. The Ministry of Culture has identified 16 distinctive festivals from around Thailand to be promoted on the international stage in line with the government’s Bio-Circular-Green economic model and the promotion of Thailand’s 5F soft-power foundations – Food, Film, Festival, Fight and Fashion. Bun Ban Klang Festival, Chon Buri This outdoor merit-making ritual in Phanat Nikhom District involves locals putting food onto banana leaves cut into squares, to ward off bad luck. The event is on from March-June 2023. Phuket Food (Creative City of Gastronomy) Festival, Phuket A fantastic occasion for food lovers, with plenty of food – both local and international – to be enjoyed. Chao Mae Lim Ko Niao Festival, Pattani A colourful homecoming festival for Chinese descendants of Pattani province. This year, the event took place on 2-8 February. Ban Chiang World Heritage Festival, Udon Thani A celebration of the historical significance of the World Heritage Site-listed Ban Chiang area, considered the most important prehistoric settlement so far discovered in Southeast Asia. This year, the event took place on 10-12 February. Hok Peng Festival to Worship Phra That Chao Phu Phiang Chae Haeng, Nan A worship ritual at Wat Phra That Chae Haeng, Phra Aram Luang, in Phu Phiang district. This year, the event is taking place from 28 February to 6 March. Hae Malai Khao Tok Festival, Yasothon A cultural celebration in which thousands of hand-made garlands connecting popped rice together are displayed on floats. This year, the event takes place from 1-5 March at the event’s grounds in front of Mahachanachai District Office. Hae Phra Khuen That Festival, Nakhon Si Thammarat This celebration sees the wrapping of a long piece of sacred yellow cloth around the base of a stupa at Phra Mahathat Woramahawihan. Wat Phra Mahathat. This year, the event takes place from 2-6 March. Korat Street Art, Nakhon Ratchasima A lively and colourful showcase celebrating creative works by regional artists. Sdok Kok Thom Festival, Sa Kaeo This festival highlights the renowned historical Sdok Kok Thom Khmer castle. Kram & Craft Sakon Festival, Sakhon Nakhon A festival in celebration of the local community’s cultural creativity, involving the use of natural plants to dye fabric. Vesak Day Festival, Mae Hong Son Known locally as Nataya Heng-sattha Gingala Nom Bucha Visakhaburamee, the event is a traditional merit-making ceremony held on Vesak Day, a sacred day to Buddhists and some Hindus. Tak Baht Dok Mai Khao Phansa (Festival of Floral Offerings), Saraburi A traditional merit-making ceremony involving the giving to monks of white Khao-Phansa flowers, also known as Dok Hong Hern (flying swan flower), held annually on Khao Phansa or Buddhist Lent Day. Phaya Sri Satta Nakarata Worship Ceremony, Nakhon Phanom A religious ceremony for the Naga believed to live in the Mekong River at Phaya Si Sattanakarat multipurpose yard, enshrined on the banks of the Mekong River. The event is on in July 2023. Hom Heet Toi Hoy Roi Jai Tai Lue (Tai Lue Local Festival), Phayao This event honours the Tai Lue ethnic community, and their distinctive traditions. Taking place at Wat Phrathat Sob Waen: Temple of the Tai Lue Culture, Chiang Kham Town, Yuan, Chiang Kham District, Phayao. The event is on from 15-16 July 2023. Phetchaburi City of Gastronomy Festival, Phetchaburi Another great event for food lovers, where they can enjoy fantastic local cuisine. Khom San Duang Festival, Lamphun Literally translated as a festival of a hundred thousand lanterns, this is a picturesque celebration that sees numerous floating lanterns let go into the sky during the annual Loi Krathong Festival at Wat Phra That Haripunchai Woramahawihan. https://thepattayanews.com/2023/02/15/bun-ban-klang-festival-in-chon-buri-with-other-15-distinctive-thai-festivals-to-be-promoted-internationally/

Did not go to the hustler bars. Did all my shopping online. Great looking guys and very reasonable. Worth visiting again. Probably October again this year.

Love the tattooed guys!

I think an excellent chance for sure. And, with all the nuts they have in the House, they don't want to risk one nut spoiling it for the whole bunch. I am just shocked at what we now tolerate in American politics. Why was Al Franken forced out? These people today are totally crazy and seem to get support regardless. How on earth could MTG get reelected?

and this, Vinapu, is what made the 2nd part of your trip a blast - CCP's substantial monetary loss became the gain for the guys in Thailand - and I am sure that you brought many happy smiles with that sum....

It's really not clear to me why New York state got the red wave most other blue states avoided. Like Michigan, for example, where there was basically a blue wave. There's inflation and all that. But, again, didn't work in Michigan. Maybe it was a backlash against gerrymandering itself. Maybe it was the structure of the districts. Maybe it was crime. New York has a low murder rate, because they have stricter gun control. But perception is reality, and regardless there has been a spike in crime. Whatever it was, Santos was an accident that didn't really need to happen. The ideal scenario for Republicans is they do what you said, and then win a special election to replace him with a Republican this Fall. They keep the seat in a very close House. And also they can argue it is a referendum against Biden in a blue state. But there's a good chance a Republican would lose. If only because it's a shit show and the R candidate has Santos' stench on them. Then it is just one more nail in the coffin that the Republicans have gone to some looney tune extreme. But, as you said, if Santos is on the ticket in 2024 they are going to have that, anyway. One party's shit show is another's Schadenfreude, for sure. 😉

I think that's true, with a caveat. My warm-hearted BTC 😉 learned that from getting timed out often enough. And in some ways it created the worst of both worlds. There was a period after the 2016 election where at least it was often funny, in a darkly comic way. Bozo and Kenny in particular would get into it attacking each other. And it was just vicious. They are both creative writers that are very good with cutting one line quips. And that kind of viciousness didn't even have to be about politics. Because there have been plenty of vicious catfights on that website about ................ well, just about anything. So the time-out system created some perverse incentives. A recent example was what I viewed as BTC's wildly anti-LGBTQ rant about how The Gays in Florida are "Frankensteining" transgender kids. The article he posted about the recent decision in Florida was full of testimony by transgender kids and their parents, supporting the medical treatments. Which BTC called "barbaric." It's a great example of where we should actually want an informed debate. Because there's some evidence that some of the care providers have gone too far - in the words of some of the thoughtful care providers. But that's not what any of that was about. I viewed it as full-throated and relentless anti-LGBTQ propaganda. So the de facto rule was that as long as you don't personally attack the poster, you can spread any totally uninformed and hateful propaganda you want. Most days I scan Politico and Real Clear Politics. I'd call Politico Establishment centrism. RCP I like because it intentionally posts both lefty and righty articles. Including sometimes what read as full-blown MAGA screeds. So there were days when I'd read some right wing articles on RCP and then go read posts in the forum. It was as if some of the gang had been given their day's talking points. And then went over to the forum to disseminate them. And at least in my eyes they always tended to be the least well informed and most propagandistic talking points. Like about how The Gays are "Frankensteining" our kids. Last Summer a private conversation was started by someone and directed to twenty of "the most reasonable voices on the politics forum." Maybe. But they also happened to be the most liberal ones, including me. One line this poster wrote I think goes to the heart of the problem: The proposed cure was a one week boycott by the "reasonable" posters. You can look at that two ways. One, that was last June. And it didn't work. Two, it was wildly successful. Now the forum is permanently boycotted. My highly intellectual BTC 😉 can't flood the site with hateful and harmful comments, including about The Gays, anymore. I don't view the moderators as QAnon types or hard right wingers. It's hard to tell because they mostly stayed out of it. My read is that it shows that people in the middle are just getting sick of it. At least I hope that is the case. It would be a positive development that bodes well for Biden, since he has spent his life seeking compromise and unity. Albeit from the liberal side. Several smart posters have said that part of the problem is that people like me engaged people like the clown. When it should have been obvious no one was going to change their minds. It's a good point. Speaking for myself, my goal was never to change their minds. It was to call them and their toxic lies out. It seemed clear they were perfectly willing to engage each other and spread as much propaganda as they wanted 24/7 on their own. And my read from their comments is that they are the ones who regret the closure of the politics forum the most. It takes away one place they can do their thing. I hope it means we're moving out of a phase where toxicity and lies flow like manna from the sky. Or Trump. Or Twitter. The good news is the kind of political debate I've loved my whole life is alive and well. Recently I've been watching Bill Kristol's one hour interviews, mostly with right-of center thinkers or Republican politicos, but also some left-of-center ones, about how 2024 is shaping up. It's great stuff. And the mutual respect and thoughtfulness of people who have been doing this for decades, because they want a better America and a better world, shines through. 😊

But somehow he's still there (though may not choose to participate much longer), and you're not. In my experience, what pissed off the moderators, and what was reasonable to get pissed off about, was calling the poster names, rather than ridiculing what they said. I always tried to ridicule the post, not the poster. Did you repeatedly engage in name-calling? BTC did post some stupid stuff, but I think the difference was that he was careful to ridicule the post, not the poster.

The cop who do sex work not because they are horny or because the customers are hot. They do it for money, I am sure they all know the going rates.

Sorry it didn't work out. Lots of us buy lottery tickets knowing we're unlikely to win, but it's fun to dream and who knows? As long as you don't spend more than you can afford, where's the harm?

It's u who has a good heart! Ater all he has done/said and not done/said, to speculate that his intentions toward u might have been benign - attests to a saint-like heart.

And sometimes a more obscure reason may actually be the one in play. I discount "I don't want to be seen with him" for two reasons. First, they could have just taken seats remote from one another. Second, this guy works publicly in a popular bar in he country's largest city where he can easily be observed in the company of numerous foreigners. Despite his claims he doesn't go with customers, it's fair to assume this wouldn't be his first rodeo. Then you have the mysterious "delivery" on he evening he was scheduled to meet Vinapu in PP. It's unlikely it was a shipment of dragon fruit from China. And then there was the request for a new suitcase that PC had been counting on Vinapu to deliver to him on arrival. If you were planning to bring something surreptitiously into another country, wouldn't it be nice if you could somehow get another person to carry your bag--and on a separate flight--because your own baggage exceeded what was allowed (or some other excuse). Perhaps he got cold feet at the last minute as he began to realize Vinapu wasn't about to buy such a yarn. Maybe he ended up using the ticket Vinapu had purchased for him and went about his business in Bangkok? In hindsight, it's easy to see the red flags popping up. But in the heat of the chase, we're all subject to being thrown off the scent by the cloudy mist of lust and attraction. And there's always the possibility that there was nothing untoward going on here, aside from a deceptive young man trying his best to extract rewards for services he had no intention on delivering.

While the whole situation is a sad inditement for politics in general I have to say I'm finding the whole situation hilarious and i just wish that Santos would just cut to the bottom line and open up his full on drag queen persona to the House as THAT would make for some even more hilarious results I'm sure, but of course that probably wont happen. In fact it's probably more likely that Santos will probably announce that he's actually a top Bishop of some church or other and soon to be Pope no less and / or is an Alien who has been sent by God ( or the flying spaghetti monster) to save us all from some terrible disaster!. Where upon a ton of Americans will instantly start a new religion to follow him and start building large expensive temples to worship him - and then someone will then of course shoot him as seems to be the American way these days ! Either way GO SANTOS !! He's the best weekly entertainment show to come out of Congress for years I say ! 🙂

I was really hoping for a better turnout but it is what it is. It was a calculated risk and we’ve seen a nicer result in most of Vinapu’s adventures so we’ll just wait for the better stories I’m sure will come out.

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other chemical variations abound (butyl nitrite/nirates) and are NOT to be used with Viagra/Cialis. Just a reminder... You wouldn't want a moment of drunken passion to be your expiration or anyone else

I, like many here, became engrossed in the saga of the Wild Boars from the time the first news of their situation first broke. I can't think of any event that brought the people of the world together spiritually than did their subsequent rescue. Here are some photos of Dom from the moment British divers found the team in the cave. R.I.P.

@Primeone385that bottom is flawless. did i not post the top pulling out and creaming the bottoms hole and the bottom making his hole pulsate after the top creamed all over it? Im slipping, bro.

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No. Some of us just skip those posts. You only write it once, but you hope many people will (try to) read it, or why bother? So make it easy for them.

Your' second habit ' is causing us to crush our brain trying to understand what you are saying instead of fluid reading of everybody else comments whom write normally.

Don't you realise how childish it looks? And how difficult to read? This may be how you write to friends but posters on this boards are used to a form of English they mostly comprehend. Having to try and work out what another poster is trying to say negates the point of the posts! It's merely an affectation that perhaps is supposed to look trendy. Sorry to day: it doesn't!

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