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Few pictures of Okay Boutique hotel , my room and view from the restaurant on top floor

Update: the overnight was great. We got along fabulously and watched a movie, cooked dinner together, and good massage (me to him), we went swimming two times, and just had a fun time. Night was very good. He works and had to go back to work after one night, but next week will take 2 days off together and spend the entire weekend with me. Yesterday, I got a nice Valentine's Day gift from him. So, so far, things are progressing nicely.

Unicorns!

Happy to have you more. First political discussion: rainbows or fairies?

no need to add drama to the story. First , If I send him 200$ without asking anything in exchange few weeks prior he knew I'm serious. Second whole idea of picking me up from airport was mine because.... Third from beginning and this is what he asked for because of work as personal trainer during day , idea was that days in PP are mine and nights are ours. Only when I suggested I want to take two day trips and can use him and his car for that instead of travel office he promised to arrange his affairs so we can go together. Fourth, I asked if he can go upstairs for an hour or so but he declined because he had some session at 7 and I knew about it beforehand so it was just courtesy on my side. Fifth, trip from airport was paid as again , I suggested that if he has time he can pick me up so I can spend money on him instead of taxi. I made many costly mistakes in this affair but that arrival arrangement was basically what we both agreed on well before I set off from Bangkok so no, I don't see my fault here

IMO It was not a good decision, you should be with him from the moment you arrived to create commitment with him , by asking him just to drop you off at your hotel and send him away maybe you created the impression that you aren't serious with him or that spending the whole time with you isn't so important for you. maybe he got offended of your unusual request to let him go immediately after you arrive to your hotel.

and it was only 35 $ with breakfast

Sorry to hear that. As soon as I read that he dropped you off at the hotel and would return at midnight I feared the worst.

Day 3 , finally THE GREAT DAY V needs to go to work so we waked up at 7 and after refreshing marched to Unesco Designated for the breakfast warmly greeted by personnel there sporting knowing smile. I will see it plenty in coming days , that’s sure thing, LOL, Then V went his way and I returned to my room to pack. Since trip to PP is short , just three days, and I’m returning to Baan Silom I will leave my new suitcase with most of my goodies including two bottles of red wine for CCP there and take only what’s necessary. Before I started I fired phone up and already that early was message from my PP guy , “what time you are coming ?” , “ I will pick you up ‘ , ‘just call me when you arrive’. Thrilled I took it as we are in business, picture of his car with plate followed so all good. My heart beat increased for a while and cloud 9 seemed closer. Since my flight was at 3 pm I was in no rush to pack up. I went for a stroll to colourful market in soi 5, changed more money as we are supposed to return on Sunday. Not that I need it since money for CCP is set aside and secured but I don’t like to be left without cash on hand in any case. Checked out exactly at prescribed 12 noon, left suitcase on reception and took BTS + MRT+ SRT combination to arrive at Don Muang about 1 hr later . I had tasty roasted duck with rice lunch at coupon place in corridor leading from station to terminal. Checking in was smooth ,I had enough time to buy another bottle of red wine in duty free for 600 hoping we will open it later tonight. I send Line message to CCP I’m on my way , got ‘see you soon darling” response and at 3 pm we took off to land in PP 1.15 hr. later. I had e-visa so admission was fast , I bought SIM card for few dollars , messaged CCP I’m here, to get a picture of his car parked under the big poster outside of airport so it was very easy to find him and soon I was in. Smile the same like before , sweet and charming but it looked he lost some body mass. We were on busy street in rush hours so not much more than handshake but I couldn’t help not to touch his impressive biceps and indeed they were softer than I recalled. He noticed it and shyly admitted he did not exercise that much recently. He also looked bit tired and his eyes were bit yellowish and also admitted to getting bit drunk last night. I noticed whiff of disappointment that my new shiny suitcase did not arrive with me but I explained that luggage was limited on the flight and she is waiting for him in BKK as promised. Roads were crowded as expected at 5 pm so it took us good 45 minutes to reach hotel. He told me that he is no longer working in bar after some disagreement with owner about leaving earlier. Boys there are expected to work till end of their shift and what they do after is up to them. So it seemed had he did not contact me in beginning of month if I arrived as originally planned I would not have a chance to see him anyways unless he would be responding to my Line. We also ironed two trips to Phnom Chisor and Udong I previously planned for tomorrow and after tomorrow by his car I still want to check on his bar tonight so he suggested I have fun there and he will come to hotel at midnight He dropped me at hotel and distracted by his smile I forgot to give him his bottle which I realized in lobby but he already speed away so I texted him with apologies to a sweet response ‘ have fun in bar with boys and see you later tonight”. This time I stay in Okay Boutique hotel in small alley behind National Museum. Nice view of PP and Mekong from it’s restaurant on 15th floor. Hotel seemed to be busy with tour groups. I was given room with no less than 3 beds but not much view as it was on 3rd floor only It was already getting dark so I went to ChristianPFC’s recommended Dolce Vita restaurant for my serving of Cambodian version of chicken with cashew nuts and from there to Space Hair bar hoping to see some familiar faces. This time mostly new guys , I recalled one or two only , guy I invited to my hotel last trip was absent so I lined him to show up at least tomorrow. Bar was not busy until about 10 pm so I was holding court to three guys, then one more joined us for drinks. It was all good natured fun. One needs to remember that as soon as drink is finished your companion may feel free to leave the table so if t you want to keep them , keep buying drinks. Fortunately it’s not that expensive exercise but keep tab on what you order. I suggest you make it obvious you count drinks ordered as I was under impression I was charged for 2 or 3 more than my boys consumed unless some of them ordered something on my tab behind my back. Did not make any fuss over that , 52 $ for evening of fun seemed reasonable. Mindful I expect my guest at midnight I tipped discretely three of my companion 10$ each and left bar past 11 pm and walked toward hotel, Lined CCP as I walked to ensure him I’m there and received message he will be bit late as he had some unexpected delivery and wants to eat something before he arrives. Fine I will wait. And wait I did to a complete silence, at 12.40 I sent message I’m going to my room ( I was waiting outside ) and about 50 minutes later, quite devastated I went to bed. Yes , it was expected considering earlier antics but at least I’d expect some false excuse or something , not just silence. And considering promised tip, well above PP standards, absence was puzzling even more.

I hired a group to trace the IP and got a few others involved. Resolved for now, Yes. But, you know as well as I do, once a file is out there, it could always come back and haunt you. People are often naive when they think someone likes them. (just see my thread about my new crush)

Day 2 P went home and I went to world famous for breakfast. With some time to kill before my dental appointment I wandered through markets in sois 10 and 5. Dental work went smoothly and they did even more than I intended to so very glad again with their service and expertise at Dr. Smile. Straight from there to Madrid Tavern for lunch with ChristianPFC . Both ladies recognized me immediately remembering I drink Chang from the bottle and my favorite pizza is shallots and cherry tomatoes. After lunch Christian went his way and I walked to hotel basking in very pleasant weather. After bit of refreshing I decided to go to Sabaidee Spa , my mainstay in Dec 2021 but neglected in last 2 trips. I hoped my favorite from there Ton will be available but he was not , when mamasan called him he admitted is bit sick . No harm done as from the back emerged guy I saw in their Line feed and was interested to meet anyways so engaged him immediately. His name is Tin and he also works in Jupiter although when I was there subsequently I did not see him. Great time together helping me to mitigate jet lag. Energized I took motorsai to Patpong 2 where I had a beer with Tiny Lao in Dragon bar. While I like him, that beer made me sleepy so I went to hotel on my way Lined ex model X if he is interested in curing my jet lag. He was but not immediately as he got drunk last night he said which must be truth as he arrived by taxi even if he has a car. First class personality, body and service as always although I could use more of his time today had he arrived earlier than he did. Excellent find anyways. Having V short time yesterday I asked him for overnight today but since he came right after work and was hungry and it was a while since my lunch , we went to Foodland and while there on his suggestion we decided to visit Fresh Boys for the show. While boys there are not my type I liked show and no doubt that point of view was shared by many since bar was full house despite being mid-week . I distributed 250 in tips and show , quite long, was still on when I , feeling sleepy and bit horny in V presence , suggested we should go. So off we went at exactly midnight. Always great time with him , no pretense, humble guy with clingy disposition but like last night I caught myself being half minded with him and another half of my mind was in Phnom Penh with CCP tomorrow.

Well, I know that a number of moderators from that website had a meeting last week in Florida. I suspect it was decided at that meeting. Although I enjoyed that politics forum, I don't even know the scope of the problem. The owner said they were spending "hours" each week with moderating duties in the political forum. Given that they have at least 6 moderators, that time commitment doesn't seem unreasonable, in order to keep the forum alive. Of course, as other of their members pointed out, there were probably some smarter ways to go about the problem, such as at first temporarily, then permanently barring particularly troublesome members from the politics forum. Another issue with that website has been an obsessive compulsion to weed out any posting which was considered "off-topic." Until about a year ago, going "off-topic" was only forbidden if the original poster specifically asked that only on-topic discussions occurred, and that had to be in the poster's original (first) post. This obsession, which was applied to some but not all posters, became weaponized, as any tangent would lead to complaints from people who were losing arguments. I suspect that most of the time spent was in dealing with complaints and weeding out of postings which drifted from the original subject. In my opinion, it is the sign of an interesting string when subjects drift. Also, if the posts drifted too much, they could have just removed them without applying "points" to members, which can quickly add up and leading to the person being banned. I have a feeling that this heavy-handed moderation is going to lead to people drifting away from that website. There was actually a whole string discussing interesting posters who'd been chased away. Any hint of criticism of moderators' actions on that string ended up being dealt with severely. Well, a website should exist for the benefit of the members, not just the moderators. There may be few left there after some time, and the moderators can then rejoice at not having to do any work, since they'll be the only ones left.

Sorry V. to read how things were badly going in PP... I believe you have done your best with this boy. This shows he is not very smart, missing such a good and caring customer... This may not be the end of the story, but he obviously considers you as granted. Not great. You should now enjoy PP. Don't forget you still have the bottle of red wine. Hang out to find the right boy who may deserve it !

Experienced, yes....😉 Nope.....what you want and what he expects are 2 different things here, that should be obvious by now. Now he knows you think of him as a MB not anything "serious". If you wanted to , win him over, you should have told him , forget about the bar, let's do something together. Now he'll be more bitchy (Drama)....ask @gayinpattaya he always hooks up with these types.....he attracts DRAMA😳

I humbly submit: there's no reason to disect V's conduct here. He is very experienced and clear headed. He knew what he was getting into. I m sure it's not the first incident of its kind in our world of paid sex; lets hope it's the last for V. Vinapu, warm hug. (-:

Not yet, but Moses tells me he is almost finished. He has upgraded the board to the newest version and is moving the whole thing to a different server. He's trying to do everything he can to try to prevent this from happening again. If all goes well, I might be able to give the "green light" as soon as this weekend. Rest assured, I will post a new message when the board is open and safe to access again.

Thanks for sharing that....Wonder what happened that finally pushed them over the edge? I guess anything that deprives the QAnon pond scum a forum is a good thing though.

Forget the drama soak up the beauty of that hotel 😁😁

Years ago, I was OK with a BF staying home and doing nothing. But, the more experiences I have had, I have come to give two choices if someone lives with me. Either work or go to school. If going to school, I'll pay for it all. No worries. But, if not progressing in a career in university, they must have a job. I just came to believe I was doing a disservice to them to let them do nothing but have fun and play and when things break off to have nothing to fall back on.

New host bar with men in East Bangkok, ฉางซา 長 沙 Host Club & Restaurant +66 61 949 8959 https://maps.app.goo.gl/5wc13rUZEFVRwd4S6?g_st=ic The address is: 105 30-31 Ratchaphruek Rd, Bang Rak Noi, Mueang Nonthaburi District, Nonthaburi 11000, Thailand Their tiktok accounts is @changshahostclub I was chatting with them during their live tonight and they said 1. The guys can go with the customers, sure and 2 there is no bar fine to take them home. I hope it is not a misunderstanding as I was writing in English and they were answering to me verbally.

US politics continues to amaze me. I gave up on UK politics years ago and nothing there amazes me. But the whole fiction spun around George Santos and the people who refuse to condemn him has me - well - staggered! This man - I assume he's actually a male - has made up so much of his persona that he must surely be a work of total fiction. He doesn't exist. He's not just a phoney, he's a kermit-like figure with someone's hand up his ass making his mouth move. (Yes, I know. Kermit was not a glove puppet, but you get my drift.) Every day brings new revelations about this impostor's life and totally fake existence. Yet all but a handful of the Republican Party refuse to condemn him. The awful Kevin McCarthy, the one whose head was up Trumps' ass most of the time (can anyone imagine the utter disaster if he becomes the third in line for the Presidency?) clearly sits around waiting for Santos' vote as Speaker and then hoping he will somehow magically just disappear. His party colleagues sit in waiting to grab the power they believe they are entitled to all ready to set the dogs on Hunter Biden, seemingly perhaps a more difficult task if they condemn one of their own for far more serious crimes/misdemeanours - call them what you will. Politics has become a joke - literally. Ever since John McCain (wasn't he supposed to have more than an ounce of common sense?) annointed the frightful Sarah Palin as his Presidential running mate, an even greater number of frightful ghouls has found Congress the way to promote their idiotic platforms. That good ordinary folk actually believe their lies seems to indicates that someone sooner rather than later will become the next Dr. Strangelove. A real one! And then God help not just the USA but the world.

A friend caught scabies, or in this context, “sGAYbies”, the likely human skin-to-skin source either São Paulo or Rio sexcapades. Scabies is globally ubiquitous, so a bit surprising it has not come up here although poses a considerable hassle. He had not otherwise shared any clothing or linens and had been sleeping alone. However, common area seating and programas in areas commonly sequentially used by various venue inhabitants. He had intense itching at the base between two fingers and initially thought it could be a mosquito bite. I offered hydrocortisone cream, an item I actually carry around when travelling, and asked to have a look. An obvious characteristic mite burrow track; signs of incipient mite burrow tracks between other fingers both hands also evident. He worried about the inconvenience of a private clinic check-up, say, the pricy Galdino Campos in Copacabana. I opined that he could self-diagnose based on the symptoms IF he felt comfortable. He worried about needing a physician prescription for dispensing. It was decided to case one of many pharmacies. Lo and behold were inexpensive standard topical treatment supplies right on the open area shelves. It was decided he would scrub down with a bar of benzyl benzoate soap, wash off, dry off, and apply a layer of permethrin lotion from his hairline down to the soles of his feet, including groin, penis short of urethral opening, and between buttocks, leaving on for at least 24 hours … keeping hands dry by wearing latex gloves for activities that would risk rubbing off the treatment, or re-applying permethrin to his hands over that period if necessary. A big fellow, he realized prior to the application tasks that he would need 2 tubes, and went to another drogaria where the pharmacist reached below right at his seating station for the same permethrin brand. This suggests that pharmacists are accustomed to selling infestation treatments. He found that it was not ‘goopy’ and it absorbed much like any moisturizer. He went to a self-serve lavanderia where he washed and dried, at high heat, garments potentially secondarily infested. He left the hot drier on for several minutes for good measure after removing his dried clothing. Needless to say, this kind of situation is much easier if you are at your regular home with much more back-up apparel and linens. So far, so good, about a week later. No evidence of new burrow tracks. No additional pruritis; it had quickly remitted. I suppose that if you are fortunate the itching phenomenon may assist with early detection.

Members of the Russia-led Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) call for a truce at the summit in Yerevan, while the prime minister of the host country refuses to sign the joint document: https://www.txtreport.com/news/2022-11-24-putin-explodes-and-throws-pen-video!-csto-member-states-call-for-a-truce--and-some-people-refuse-to-sign-documents-international.H1jixWpUj.html

Yeah, I think you pretty much nailed it, @unicorn. As a specific example, you and I have gotten into it, over things that matter. Like how to protect people form COVID. But I think grown ups can disagree, sometimes strongly, over things that matter. And still be respectful. I said it over at Company Of Men, but I'll repeat here. Temperament has a lot to do with it. I did say to Bill, like when he timed me out several times, "Your website. Your rules." So there was an underlying respect. But you could also say, "Your website. Your temperament." Bill had his own idiosyncrasies, which is an understatement. I was a moderator there for a while, which he give me as a reward I never wanted for raising money for him to run his website. I argued privately against his rule that you can't post pictures of children, and lost. But that dumb rule died when Bill did, basically. Bill came of age at a time when Gay men and children meant "predator." He was being cautious, and reactive. Thanks to The Gays being pro-active, Gay men and children now means Secretary Pete changing his kid's diapers. 😊 I absolutely love it that I got to live in a period when The Gays became a model for how to do politics in America and the world. Compassionately. And with intelligence. I have never met any of the moderators there in person, like I met Bill many times. Or Oz, once. My guess is they never particularly enjoyed that forum, anyway. I think Bill did. He'd post there sometimes, and let it all hang out. Like his posts on Black Lives Matter. Which did not go down well. When Trump first won he posted that he was cautiously optimistic. He would pin up that silly Miss Manners-type logo, and talk about how we all needed to post with decorum. I found it amusing. My own view is that we'd somehow managed to set up a massive fan where shit was being splattered all over the place, every day, for four years. In order to divide and conquer. The Gays were, and are, being singled out in a massive culture war. So how was that NOT supposed to splatter all over his website? I will always wonder whether he lived to regret his cautious optimism. I'm guessing the moderators who kept the site alive after Bill died, thankfully, just viewed that forum as the diaper that needed to be changed regularly. And it got to be a big pain in the ass for them. I can't blame them. I'm grateful that they kept the place alive when Bill died. Like I said over there, which some of the people I respect there the most like @lookin and Charlie agreed with, now they get a well deserved break. The seeming obsession with staying "on topic" personally annoyed me. Because I am guilty as charged for loving to wander off on tangents, like I am right now. I think that was in part Cooper's temperament. If there is an Internet Fairy God Mother, he would probably argue Cooper is correct. I recall reading some example of hijacking a thread that says if the title is how to groom your dog, it is impolite to bring up how you groom your cat. There'd be a post on some racist act in Kentucky, and I'd compare it to some racist act in LA. I think that would annoy the moderators. Mostly, I don't think there is much evidence that the key moderators ever really enjoyed posting on the politics forum, anyway. One person summed it all up with, "Good riddance!" It does make me sad. IMHO 20 years of interesting and diverse Gay political opinion just got flushed down the toilet.

Silly Oz! That's a trick question. The answer is both, of course. Rainbows are the symbol of Gay freedom and fun. How could we possibly live without them? And we have to be fairies in order to win our freedom and fun. Sometimes even nasty ones. Which is maybe what that thing at the other website is about. But love Trumps all, so to speak. 😉 So I'm for both, and ............... Speaking of which, I was wandering around here last night to see who is posting here, and about what. I think the last time I posted here this place may have been Boy Toy. And I saw the thread on your budding romance. I remember having a very nice discussion with you and Bill at one of Oliver's parties a long time ago, in which you educated me a bit about Thailand. Congratulations on your new relationship. Hope love wins.

what has always amazed me... and what actually prompted me starting this thread here... was the staying power of the evil sisters - everyone else seems to get banned, but they just stay on and on and on. maybe they can collaborate on finding another website to infect.

I brought popper to almost everywhere I travelled, never have a problem but usually only 1-2 bottle I bought a Grindr popper on Bangkok last year just to check out and It was pretty good compared to the one from US Sex toy - I dont think you have any problem with check in bag- My last trip, I brought one toy in carry on, for personal search at every single airport on that trip, but not really a problem.

I, like many here, became engrossed in the saga of the Wild Boars from the time the first news of their situation first broke. I can't think of any event that brought the people of the world together spiritually than did their subsequent rescue. Here are some photos of Dom from the moment British divers found the team in the cave. R.I.P.

It's definitely open though only on the weekend. It got so crowded on the new year's weekend. Guys even when completely shirtless after 2AM. However, now you have to pay an entrance fee.

And now that site has banned any political discussion whatsoever. I guess I'll be spending more time here. I guess their moderators don't know how to function?

Too many red flags raised with this boy . You must clear expectations with him before he ruined your trip .the minimum expected from him is to be with you at the first day of your arrival but he just dropped you off near the hotel and left it's not a good sign .

Ducky and Soda for me. I like pretty boys 😍

He saw these sitting at my door and we were going to the pool and he wore them down. I have size 14 boots so a bit big for him, but he wore them about as well as I wear Dorothy's slippers.

@kokopelli3 we are not in Kansas anymore!

A bit off topic, however I never really paid attention to Totally Oz's avatar and thought it was some sort of red and white striped flag or banner. But after reading and looking at his most recent posts I realized his avatar is none other than Dorothy's ruby shoes! Shame on me 🥴

As long as you looking at spelling, you probably meant allowed, unless you wanted to say that they were quiet 🙂

A few years ago I occasionally bought poppers on the Dongtan Gay beach . That was when I was converting from being top to versatile. Helped me take big Isaan cocks. Not seen the sellers there during my last few trips.

I agree completely. I had a friend who met a young Tunisian man and sent him money for years. The lad virtually never worked in 20 years. I know Tunisia isn't easy to get work but we don't help them by encouraging them to sit on their arse and smoke weed for decades.

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I'd go for Seed

Don't all gyms fit the bill, ;p;

Looks interesting. From the postings on the TikTok account, it seems to be mainly straight guys on staff. Going by where is located, out in the far north-western suburbs, I presume it is mainly a Thai for Thai place. However, with a name like "Changsha" maybe it is going for the Chinese market? Although I wouldn't imagine that many Chinese tourists would find their way out there, either. Glad to hear you can take guys off from it. Perhaps the fact that it describes a self as a "host bar" rather than a karaoke place, means it is more focused on that portion of the market? I dunno... Regarding off fees though, there is a possibility that there might be different prices for taking staff off at different times of the night. I believe that’s quite common in straight establishments, where you might have to pay an off fee (they would call it a bar fine) of 2000 baht before midnight, say, but by 2 am the price would have come down to 500. If they quote you a high off fee, you could ask is that all night, or does it come down later? Doesn’t suit if you want to turn up at 11 and quickly take a guy off, of course...

So I am now based on Sutthistan winichai rd in saphan khwai and this is a very different experience. I am one of only 3 farangs taht I have seen on the streets all day. Very few people here speaks any English at all. This is the first place that I see in this trip which isn’t designed around tourism. I tried 27M massage and BT house men massage and their tops really did deliver on both the massage quality and the fucking after that. I agree with @reader here above that these place have pros. I will be checking “home massage” and “kmanspa” tomorrow. Now the disappointment: I went to hi club karaoke on my street at 10 pm and was the only customer for 1 hour and a half with 10 boys there. They claimed that I was early and that all the customers arrive well after midnight. I selected 2 boys to have drinks with me and they were very thankful and intimate. However, when I asked how much was the bar fine to take my favorite one home, they looked surprised. The boy told me he doesn’t go with customers, just stays in the club. So I asked the other one who was equally into me apparently, but he said the same. I asked the manager who was actually willing to come to a hotel with a customer tonight and he showed me only 2 of them, and said he could call in a 3rd one within minutes. Frankly I was not impressed by being rejected, it was a turn off. I selected one of the boys since I really didn’t want to come home empty handed, so the manager told me the boys were 2000 for themselves and 2000 bar fine (sic). Since I had such good quality service earlier at the massage places, I thought maybe in this area they are specially selected for quality and tested out, so it could be worth it but he turned out to be a pillow princess again. I had selected this area specifically because this new club opened recently, I had seen all their boys on tiktok and thought I could enjoy a good 1/2 dozen of them in a few days, but this was clearly a mistake, I am gonna try to go back to silom where the boys i like would never say no to an off!

Update for January 2023 and thank you to the OP and all of the other posts: The peri post COVID world is a very different place. I had great luck on Grindr with regular guys as in the past. I think I only saw 1 pay for play boy and I was not interested. In Athens the Kosmopolit Cinema is closed. There are folks hanging out in the alley away from Onomia Square and towards the police station half a block away. Usually only 1-4 at a time, and I assume mostly druggies. There is one nice looking guy from pre COVID days that does hang out in front of the Cosmopolit Hotel occasionally. He also hangs out with the druggies too, LOL. Sometimes the police hang out in this area and thus there is no trade to be had. The hotel can still be used by the hour. 30 E for the guy and 10 E for the hotel. Only saw a very other folks hanging around and possibly plying trade in this area and towards Omonia Square sort of at the side of the Hondos Center and alley / street. Another hotel by the hour is the youth hostel on a perpendicular street about 2 blocks away. 10 E for 1 hour. Only saw women hanging out for trade here. The park north of the archeological museum still has some action, but far less than in the old days. The park is moderately large and I only walked around the several block areas near the Athena statue and entrance Konstantinos on horseback statue. Not sure of the cost, as I was not interested in those offering pay for play. Several potential boys never got away from their cell phones to say hi. All of the guys seemed to be in their 20s - 40s. Be aware that lots of kids and families now hang out in the park. Very few did in the past, when druggies predominated. Several times I did see some truly hot guys but going into the hotels with a client or likely on the way to meet a client. I do not speak greek or arabic and I think this is what those boys spoke. Never saw these boys again. Never sought trade in the big park near Plaka that folks talk about. Never sought trade much after sunset in a park. Also, too cold to do this at midnight. Samy's Bar is open, but I did not go there 1 am on a Friday / Saturday night. In the past, this general area had folks plying trade. Did not see anything obvious on this trip. Also did not see any places with "open" doors for folks to romp around in this trip. I would guess the local politicians have invested major resources to clean the area up. I had good luck at a very clean adult porn theatre about a 10 minute walk west of Cosmo. Just average horny guys, no pay for play. About 7-10 E entry fee. There is a grimier adult cinema perhaps 25 meters from the Economy Hotel, the one closet to the corner and perpendicular to the hotel, not the adjacent one a bit further away. Another porn places faces the Economy, but seemed permanently closed. Wow, had lots of fun here. One guy, likely in his 40s was about 10 E, others wanted more. Usually only 1-4 boys when I went and sometimes 1 or 2 were asleep sometimes on a couch or in the main theatre, LOL. Some spoke some English, others spoke no English, French, Spanish or German. Guys always asked for more when paying. Up to 30 E. There is an upper level and a lower level with lockable door rooms, but you need a cell phone for lighting, as there is none otherwise. One guy stole about 25 E from me and accosted me in the locked room as he wanted far more than agreed to. So be warned, some of this is rough trade. Despite screaming, no one will try to assist you. Did tell the guy who takes your 5 E entry so he could make sure the guy does not come in again. Also had the best sex in Athens trip with another boy to follow !! We had another romp a few days later in a hotel for an hour. Couple weeks later he calls me on what's app trying to get me to send him money, LOL. I mostly was looking from around 1400-1800 hrs in the park and Cosmo areas and as late as 2000 hrs at the cinema by Economy. All in all, despite a bit of danger, I had fun

Day 1 - The arrival My flight arrived at DMK around 6.30pm on a weekday, so immigration was smooth and minimal wait for my luggage. I am always guilty of overpacking, and this time around, I had to use my bigger luggage since the carry-on size cannot fit all my stuff, thus I decided to use a taxi. My flight did delay by about 1 hour, nothing too bad, but had I arrived on time, I could have shared a taxi with a forum member who just arrived from a trip an hour earlier. Arrived at the hotel around 8pm and arranged to meet with the forum member for dinner at G around 9pm after I unpacked and showered for the night out. I decided to first visit the lesser known bars for tonight, so we went to smaller bars on Soi 6, Golden Cock/Nature Boy, Super A and New Twilight (Queen). Queen unfortunately is not fully open yet, and told us they might have a show on the weekend, so we decided to not waste time there. We passed by Nature, which seems to have some boys not my type, and Super A, which has their door closed and no one outside, so we decided to skip. It is still quite early though. I also peeked through Tawan to see how small their new location is and indeed it is really small, but they had quite a good number of boys there. Since I've yet to visit dreamboy since they moved to patpong, and now they have moved to the old Lucky boy location, I decided to finally give dreamboy a proper visit and see their shows. As mentioned by many threads previously, dreamboy moved to lucky boy's location, upstairs. When you go up the stairs, even on the outside, you will see several boys, some shirtless sitting there, quite a feast to the eyes if you like the kind of boys on offer. Previously, the two huge pillars in the middle obstructed the view of the stage if you were unlucky enough to be seated behind them. Dreamboy decided to put the DJ table right there in between the two pillars thus it solved that part quite efficiently. We were seated in the second row which was fine for me, but yes, the music was way too loud to have any decent conversation. Decent numbers of boys, continuing the tradition of lucky boys, easily more than 40 boys of many sizes and ages, but no one is my type. I tend to be very picky body wise but more tolerant with the face, and I couldn't find one I wanted to off. Their infamous macho straight dancer who only goes with girls is still there, doing a few dance numbers as well as being the DJ there. He would've been the only one I might consider offing but too bad he is not available. Anyway, the show was just ok for me, the big cock show was there, the fake jerking off show was there, the drag shows were still there too but they seemed to do away with the funny slapstick comedy show by the katoeys. Since I didn't find anyone I like, we decided to leave. After I said goodbye to the forum member, I went back to Tawan and sat down. Ordered my drink and the boys were rotating on stage 3 at a time and yes all of them were wearing underwear with one of them, the obviously gay one who isn't as muscular as others, wearing a jockstrap. I saw one guy I like, an older type, but with a nice manly exotic face, with beautiful darker skin and a perfect muscular body, not too big, not too small. Asked him to sit with me and bought him a drink. The usual question of introduction, how long in Thailand etc, and then down to business. Asked if he is willing to go with me, yes. Asked if he will do LT, he paused, then said he is tired and asked if we can do ST. Told him, no. It is my first night here and I'm not compromising what I want haha. I asked him a second time, and said my offer, and he still hesitates. In the meantime, my eyes are already eyeing another guy, and through our conversation, I sort of felt like he doesn't really fit the kind of guy I want personality wise. So when he still says he can only do ST, I told him I am looking for LT and asked the guy I'm eyeing to come down as well to sit on my other side. Seeing this, he got the point and asked if he could leave and I said yes. This new guy, better looking than the guy before, bigger in size, typical thai skin complexion, body builder type body that looks like he is ready for competition. Bought him a drink as well and the usual conversation ensued. He is Issan, and will go with me for LT but asked for a higher tip but still within the range I'd pay for that quality. So I said yes, I'll off him. and he can get dressed. He went to get dressed, I paid the off fee and drinks, and off we went back to my hotel. Everything went well, I liked the chemistry with this guy and of course I enjoyed his body more lol. He woke me up a bit earlier than expected saying he needed to leave early though, something I usually don't have big issues with but certainly will impact my decision for a repeat. As in, he will not be my first choice but will still be in the running. Anyway, I went back to sleep after he left, and he asked me if I was ok with him leaving early and I said I understood. He seems glad that I didn't make any issue of this and yes, it's not a big issue for me. Side note, one forum member who I met before did reply to my thread and asked when we could meet. However, he didn't reply to my DM and line, but more on that for next update. Next - Day 2 - Getting into a routine

First time trip report- please be kind. Arrived Thursday night/Friday morning. Flight was uneventful and we landed at BKK at about midnight. Took about 20 mins through immigration and bags were already rolling out. Picked up my bag and went to get a cab. Stall number 46 was my guy, and away we went. The driver was hauling ass most of the ride, and then slowed down to a crawl on the mostly empty highway. I realized he didn't know how to get to The Raya- (thanks Vinapu), despite me showing him the address in Thai. I whip out google maps and then direct the ride for the final 20 mins. Upon arrival, I suggest the driver should pay me since I did the navigation. He didn't think this was quite as funny as I did, but I tipped him well so all was forgiven. Checked in, checked the apps, and passed out. Friday- I decided to walk around to see what had changed since the pandemic. I walked past Green Massage to see if my guy was still there. It was relatively early, but there were only 2/3 people sitting outside, and my guy was not one of them. (When in Bangkok, I like to treat myself to a foot massage almost every day, as it's so cheap. I found a guy at Green that is great. Once, he convinced me to go upstairs for a full body massage, and it got sexy! He's not really my type, but he was so nice and eager, so I enjoyed the massage and the extras with him. Let's call him U. I figured he went back home during the pandemic and I would never see him again, but I went to check anyway. Hope springs eternal they say.) So, as I walked past the dog leg near Prime Massage, I am almost at Silom Road when I hear me name being called. Turn around, and there's U! He's a at Relax Thai Massage now- on the right after the dogleg. The guys there all wear black. Anyway, we hug and chat for a minute, and I tell him I will be back in an hour and get a foot massage. AMAZING start to Day 1. But I was on a mission so I continued on my way to: Foodland! I needed to get my favorite facial soap and they sell it there. I got the soap and some other things and check out. I was tempted to drop into the Unesco World Heritage Site 5 Michelin starred restaurant, but I had a foot massage scheduled and I needed to drop off my purchases. So we will have to save it's delights for another day. Foot massage was great, as always, and U would stick his hands up my shorts and tickle my balls every once in a while- I would smile and he would giggle. He's very sweet and I am glad he is back in Bangkok. We chatted about the pandemic and losing work for so long (I also lost work the entire time) so I could fully empathize. Massage ended and Ieft with a promise to return the next day for another. Paid and tipped and went to lunch at Mango Tree. I have a tradition of Pad Thai at Mango for my first lunch in Bangkok. I also wanted to see the situation on that soi, so I walked down that way after lunch. Couldn't really figure out what was happening with the new place Queen or New Twilight or whatever- confusing to say the least. Will need further investigation. Back to hotel to relax for a minute and shower as I was heading to Arena in the late afternoon. I walked down Silom and into the plaza were Arena is. Went up and was met outside by the boss man. He said something as he opened the door, and about 20/25 guys all hopped up. I usually just pick a guy I like the looks of and see what happens. In this case it was a muscular guy who had a really great smile and seemed eager. So up I went with Mike. We got to the room and I took another shower. Mike comes in and he showers and is just as sexy naked as I thought. He speaks decent English and is nervously chatting and laughing. He tells me it's his first day, which of course I do not believe. But when the massage starts, I think- maybe it's true... Instead of a half-assed attempt at massage, I start to get pulled and twisted and pummeled as in a traditional Thai massage. This is unexpected, but very nice. The nervous chatter and laughter continues throughout. He also places little kisses and bites on my ass every once in a while- nice touch! About 20 mins later, he starts with the requested cream massage. This feels awesome and he uses his strong arms and body all over me. He grabs my hand and puts in on his nice sized rock hard cock. He then asks to fuck me- but I am a top so I say "I fuck you!" More nervous laughter as he apologizes, but I say it's OK- no problem. We continue the massage and he starts to jerk me off and play with my ass. It's not gonna happen, but does feel nice. The ending was strong and I was sweaty. I get in the shower and he gets in with me and soaps me up and continues to grind on me and smack my ass- like we are in the locker room. He tells me several more times that I am the one to "open" him- meaning first customer. We dry off and get dressed and he playfully changes out my shoes with his- all the while laughing and joking with me. It was a thoroughly enjoyable experience for sure! Was I really his first customer? Or was that just more Magic of Thailand? I suppose there's no way to know, but it was a great afternoon. Back to hotel, short nap, and then off to get some dinner. I stopped in Hotmale Beer Bar and had a pint. Chatted with the guys there, then on to Soi 4, as I haven't yet seen it with life. It was hopping at about 8 pm! Went to Circus and had some fried rice and another pint. Then off to Dreamboys to see how it was. I loved Lucky Boys, so I was hopeful. Well- let's just say the guys weren't great. Seated in the back and left alone by the managers, and there were probably 25 other customers inside. There were a few guys that would be fine, but as it was early, I paid the outrageous sum of 500 baht for my beer, and ventured over to Hotmale upstairs. Only 4 other customers there. But i ordered a beer and there were some cuties for sure. One guy caught my eye, number 32. Cambodian guy, super cute, gay, and speaks good English! Score! He goes and gets his clothes and I pay for our beers and the bar fine and off we go. As it wasn't even 10pm yet, we walked back over to Soi 4, and a tout that I knew from BC (before covid) managed to pull us into Banana Room. The show was going on, so we were seated by the infamous Lucy. I am feeling generous, so I buy Lucy a drink, for old times sake. My Cambodian (S) enjoyed the show- said he had never seen it before. I also gave him a few red notes to tip the performers which he seemed to like doing. We watch the show and it ends with big cocks on the metal pole. Pay the tab and head out. We dropped back by Hotmale Beer Bar for a nightcap and talked. S was very touchy-feely and planted kisses on my cheek and lips. Very friendly and fun. Paid up there and went back to the hotel. As soon as we get int he door, he drops his clothes. I ask if he wants a shower. No, he says. After, with you. Alright then. So we get into bed and he lived up to his promise to do everything. And everything we did. A really passionate and fun guy! We hopped in the shower after and went to bed. Snuggled all night then woke up and had a morning session. We got each other off again, showered and he left. So that's how my morning started on Day 2. He is a definite repeat. More later...

Day 6 Started off with a coconut water on my way to see U for the daily foot massage. Found out it was his day off, and he had come in just for me. Very thoughtful. It was, as always, delightful. Since I haven't yet had a Thai massage, I decided to walk over to Prime and make an appointment. Went over to Silom Edge for lunch then quick stop at hotel. Back to Prime for my appointment. 90 minutes of Thai massage is basically paying a guy to beat you up. They really do manage to put their hands, feet, elbows, and knees in every conceivable muscle. I was sore afterwards, so I decided to get a relaxing massage. Conveniently, a very sexy and muscular guy hit me up on Grindr. Works in a shop but also freelances, apparently. He's been mentioned on the forum previously, so I had planned to go to his shop to visit him anyway. But lucky me, he does hotel calls. He was at the hotel in 30 minutes, and gave me a very relaxing massage. After, he asked "anything else?" Well- yes actually. He also bottoms like a champ! I will definitely see him again. Decided to go to Hotmale Beer Bar for a beer and to bring the guys there some cookies- they have been great to hang out with on this trip. Then over to Circus for the show. Back to Hotmale where I had to take a call. S, from the other day, spotted me from the balcony of Hotmale and made heart gestures to me so I went up to say hello. We had a beer and I decided to off him again. So we went back to Soi 4 for a couple beers at Connections. Watched the people go by until it was time to head back to the hotel. S was just as accommodating as the last time, and we slept in each others arms. He is a very sweet guy and also works at a restaurant in the daytime. I was headed to Pattaya in the morning so we woke up, had a quickie, showered and he left to go to the restaurant. I packed and got my car to Pattaya. More later...

Day 3 Day 3 began with a morning session with my sexy Filipino J. After, we walked to Silom soi 26, but were too late forthe morning vendors and too early for the afternoon vendors. I thought we may end up at Unesco World Heritage, but J suggested we try Silom Edge fool court. There are about 12-15 options and we had a nice lunch there. Open 24 hours too, for that late night snack. After lunch we said goodbye as I had plans for the afternoon. Went back to the hotel and showered, did some work, then walked over to Senso. Greeted by about 15 guys, each cuter than the next, but one guy, J, was wearing glasses and so cute, so he was my pick. Let's just say, I picked well. The massage started with my feet and legs, then back and shoulders. J was named from the beginning and feeling his body against mine was exceptional. When it came time to turn over, he asked what I like- I told him I am a top. He took a moment then went and got his supply pouch. He slapped a condom on me and lubed up and began to sit on my cock. It wasn't going well at first. I could tell he didn't bottom a lot. So, he pulled out some poppers and with a few whiffs of that he managed to get all the way down. We stayed in that position for a while as he got used to it but once he was comfortable, it was off to the races. His sexy abs and pecs were amazing to see and feel while we fucked. An absolute delight and highly recommended. Tipped him, well, in the room then went down to pay. The ugly mamasan at the counter tried to quote me a higher price than on the menu. I refused and showed her the menu price. Shame on her- anf I remmerb that happening there once before. I do not mind paying a premium price for a premium service, but don't overcharge from the price list. Went back to hotel and showered. A quick pint with the boys of Hotmale Beer Bar, then off to Circus for dinner and part of the drag show. After, I bought some of the knock-off underwear on Silom and took it back to the hotel. I was feeling kind of tired, but decided to go out anyway. Ended up at Banana Room where I was seated next to a very drunk Chinese customer with a bottle of Bacardi (gross) and multiple shot glasses generally making a spectacle of himself by giving shots and tips to the staff. Not my style so I moved down and was seated in the front. There were a couple cuties, but I thought I might have an early night. Just then, an American from Texas came in and was seated right behind me. We started chatting and it turns out to be his first time night in Bangkok ever, and he was amazed. I explained how it all works, and he said "So they're all prostitutes" I replied "Well, that's a rather unartful word, but yes". I called down a cute guy that had been making eyes at me during the show to demonstrate to Texas how it works. Shortly, Texas left as his Grindr was blowing up, and I ended up offing the guy. We got back to my hotel, but I was really tired so I paid the tip to the boy, and asked him to leave. He apologized profusely, but I assured him he did nothing wrong- I was just totally zonked. So day three ended alone, but that was perfectly fine, as J had worn me out that afternoon. And, I had a date with P the next night anyway, so a good night sleep seemed like a good idea. I will explain P in the next post. More later...

Day 2- Day 2 began with a morning session with the sexy Cambodian S, from Hotmale. We showered and he left. I decided I wanted a coffee, so went out to the street and got a coffee from a street stall, and fresh watermelon. Where else can you get a giant iced coffee and watermelon for less than 2 bucks? Walked around and found a shady spot to eat and sip my coffee. It was early so it was still cool so I just explored a little bit. Soon it was time for my daily foot massage with the amazing U at Relax Thai Massage. It was pure bliss as always. Afterward, I decided to have lunch at the traditionally Thai-named Happy Beer Garden. I was pleasantly surprised by the food quality, and the service was efficient and friendly. Maybe too friendly- more on that later. After lunch I put in a couple hours of work, then got showered and dressed to go meet J. I have been chatting with J for a few months on Grindr. He's not a MB, just a sexy 25 year-old Filipino living and working in Bangkok. I hit him up in October, thinking I would be in Bangkok soon. Work had other plans for me, so we have kept in touch these last several months. We planned to meet at Shenanigan's, then head off to the night market for dinner and to have a look around. He was about 20 minutes late, but when he arrived, I was pleasantly surprised. Exactly my type- a little shorter than me, smooth brown skin, and muscular legs. Perfection! We took the MRT to the Jodd Fairs night market which seems to be the newest one. Not sure what I was expecting on a Saturday night, but it was SUPER packed and busy. We walked around for a bit looking for a place to eat, when J suggested Spaghetti Seafood. I looked at the menu (but not the tables of other diners) and agreed. Once we were seated, I realized what we were in for. Essentially, you choose which seafood you like (we chose mixed) and they then lay down wax paper. A bucket of seafood with a tomato based sauce is then dumped in front of you. We also ordered the "cheese burn" because hot cheese. Well, they drop shredded cheese all over the seafood then burn it with a torch right on the table. We both watched this process unfold with our eyes growing larger and larger! You then don plastic gloves and eat with your hands. Whomever said you shouldn't order anything messy on a "first date" would be horrified, but we had a great time talking and laughing and being messy. After, we had a couple beers at the open area and listened to a woman screech out some Thai hits. She wasn't very good, but it added to the overall experience, for sure. Time to head back to Silom, so we check Grab and see 250 Baht, so we approach tuk-tuk driver number 1. He says 500. J is not having this. We got to the next driver as driver 1 holds up his hand (5) in an attempt at price fixing. Second driver immediately undercuts him and says 400. J, still not satisfied, approaches tuk-tuk 3. Driver one holds up hand-5. Driver 3 says 400. The process repeats until we are several more tuk-tuks down the line. Eventually we get a driver for 200. J is satisfied with this and we hop in. As we ride past driver 1, J waves at him and holds up 2 fingers. I decide I like this guy! When we get back, I pay the driver 300 Baht- we still got a deal, and he made a little more money. Everyone wins! We settle into some seats at Unicorn to watch the gays pass by. Laughing and chatting and beer- soon we are feeling good and J wants to go to GOD. I do not love crowds, but I agree and we go. It was actually fun, so long as you stay on the balcony level. We dance for a while, but it is soon time to head back to the hotel as the bars are closing. J wants another couple beers for the room, but it's late. We pass by Happy Beer Garden and he asks if we can get a couple to go. The waitress says yes, and calls me by my name! She must have read it on my credit card earlier in the day, and remembered- I was surprised, to be sure. So we get back in the room and J goes to set the bottles on the table and they roll off the table onto the tile floor and CRASH. Now we have broken glass beery mess- I take one look at it and at J, who is shirtless and super embarrassed and say fuck it- this can wait. I throw a towel over the mess, move the coffee table on top so we don't step on it in the middle of the night, and roll into bed. He is a very passionate kisser and an excellent bottom. We have an athletic session and finally pass out after- He fits in my arms perfectly, so we snuggle most of the night. In the morning, I wake up to him pressing his cock up against me, so it's time for round 2. Even better than the night before. So that's how day 3 started! More later...

Gloria, Catete, Flamengo, Botafogo are much, much safer than Copacabana or even Ipanema. And they are very pleasant, interesting, walkable neighborhoods. In the touristy beach neighborhoods, you are walking around with a red flashing sign saying "I'm a tourist, probably a dumb one too, rob me."