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A few updates: After letting go of my temporary boyfriend (the one I said I’d keep for a few days) I was a single man again. Jomtien is quite disappointing. No bars where the boys are on stage and obviously for grabs. I know the waters are for grabs, but I like the “obviousness” of the gogo bars compared to the waiters simply being kind of hot (or not so hot and very pushy). So I went to Pattaya to the gogo bars. I arrived too early (6 pm) so I got a foot massage at paradise spa. The masseur (M) was very flirty and also really good. Then it was still too early for boystown so I walked to Winner bar which opens early where there was 5 customers and 6 boys. I found 3 very attractive. I must say Winner deserves its reputation. I was cuddling with one of the boys but then I realised (just within 10 minutes of being there) that another customer was doing much much more with his boy. There was certainly some cum-eating at the end. After that i walked to X-boys where I hired one of them for short time. I didn’t want to go all the way back to jomtien just for short time, and also I wanted to see more of boystown tonight anyway, but they said they had a room next door for me to enjoy him. I stupidly accepted, don’t do that. Do like @vinapu, get a room in Pattaya, they are very cheap on booking.com. Why no get their room for sex? Because the room they give me had a horrible mattress and I wouldn't be surprised if I get some std not from the guy, but just from lying down on that bed. At 8 15, i was the first and only customer in xboys, but I guess it was early night still, I really wonder how they survive. After that I walked across to dreamboys a go go and there were a few customers and 8 boys, half of them off-able. I chose one and after 30 minutes of cuddles and confirming that he would do everything I expected, we agreed on a 2000 bahts for long time in my hotel in jomtien complex. We rode his scooter to jomtien, and I must say I probably took far more risks for my life in that single ride than I ever took in weeks of my time in Brazil 😀 The boy was great and got a nice bonus for bottoming like a champ this morning. Given that it was 10:30 pm when we left dreamboys (a time at which we should expect it to start getting be busy, no?) and that there only one other customer left in the bar, I really struggle to understand how the whole bar survives on ~15 drinks and 2 or 3 bar fines per night. I mean they have to feed 8 or 9 boys + 3 mamasans, pay rent etc.

Meeting my boyfriend in Pattaya two decades ago was one of the best things that happened in my life. And there are other posters who have been similarly blessed. Yes, there are gold-diggers, as there are here in the UK. I'd visited Thailand on thirty occasions before we met and even then, it took a year before I even considered using the word love. It could happen to anyone. For those nine years as a butterfly, I swore I'd never fall for a Thai guy- I was having too much fun. Now look at me! Still besotted!

The next day a masajista (M) offered himself. I was explicit on "regular + sensual" and that he wld suck me; he cnfrmd. I agreed to his 2000, applied the same procedure with him, and we went to the room. His massage was lackluster, nothing sensual about it. He also didnt get hard. When I wanted to progress he said he doesnt suck. That was about 25 mnts into the meeting. I told him the meeting is over, and even though he doesnt deserve it - I'll pay him half for half the time. He started to shout at the top of his voice that he wants the whole 2000; I stood my ground; threatened to call security; and since he wldnt leave - did so. The same sec showed up (mrng noon shift), unsrprsngly offering to split the dfrnce. I refused, went down to rcption, they followed me - all the time with M shouting. After a few mnts I got fed up, told the sec I was going out, and did so. M continued to argue with him; by the time he started following me, I lost him in El Conde. I then doubled back to the hotel; M noticed me, but when he saw I'll reach safety before he caught up with me - threw at my back a small lotion bottle and scurried off. I apologized profusely to the sec, who was srprsngly good natured about it (as was the young lady rcptionist). I gave him the 1000 that M lost, and promised that this wont happen a 3rd time. This sequence left me rattled. In 20 years something like this happened to me only twice (Shanghai and Addis Ababa). My instincts failed twice in a row, and I felt I cant try again (also bcs of the hotel staff). Not to leave u totally dprssd, future rprt will detail that things picked up from this nadir. Meantime, everyone is free to choose his own lessons from these negative events. )-:

Barcelona: Had incredible luck at Boyberry. Even found someone to have a date with !! Therefore, I did not do Thermas, etc. Pretty cold, so I did not do the leather bars or discos, especially as regular guys at Boyberry were fine for sex. Grindr was also busy. Granada, Malaga, Cordoba, and Sevilla: Grindr had traffic, but the local guys seemed desperate. They would send me messages and pics and then be pissed as we never hooked up. Mind you, I never contacted them and often never replied to a single message due to lack of interest. Sevilla was better. From years ago, I thought Sevilla had a boy bar, but could not find one this trip. Madrid: Seemed like Chueca had tons of gay places. Guys at Boyberry fulfilled my needs so never needed the other bars or Grindr guys. Definitely some pay for play boys on grindr in Barcelona and Madrid; maybe Sevilla. Not sure of prices. Hunqz had nice looking guys listed as well as morbototal. For all of these places, tourists looking to get off and various local horny guys will vary with the seasons. As for boys, seemed like many more in the bigger cities, as expected.

M not sure everyone is going to like this rprt. I offer it especially for newbies, and wont b srprsd if my conduct wld be criticized as naive and/or quarrelsome. Things preferable to know about me, in order to undrstnd my rprts: * this is my 2nd visit here. U can c my detailed favorable 2020 rprts. * I speak spanish at an intermediate level (which is enough). * I m at an un-anal phase; prefering kissing, body cntct, cock worship, mutual sucking. * I dont like to haggle, and view payments / tips as my cntrbution to the redstrbution of wealth btw the 1st and 3rd worlds. * Cheats / bullies cause me to prioritize principled resistance over peace of mind. I arrived at the hotel after midnight, opened grindr, and went to sleep. When I awoke, there were circa 50 msg (not counting taps which I ignore). Very few prepagos; all with same small-talk questions and exhibiting their fotos. It was very strange for me that while pushing for a meeting, nobody mentioned money. Not wanting any misundrstndings, I very politely wrote the following: "Since there r many hidden prepagos here, please excuse my question - do u expct money of me? I dont mind sometimes paying, but I prfr to know in advance." Almost all rspndd: no, but just for taxi or dinner or if u want to gift me. Guess that's the way for them not to feel like scort / prepagos. My prsnl cautious stndrd procedure also includes delicately inserting in the chat that I once had to call hotel security (so they know I cant b bullied); and meeting outside the hotel before going to the room. Nevertheless, I failed twice. First guy was Jefrey, who wrote he only wants "gasoline money". He also shifted us to whatsapp, which I naively found friendly. He's a total top, with a lean body (without that small belly too many guys there have), and a long hard dick. Also good smile and energy. Had a great time with him. After we dressed, I gave him 1000, saying "this is for gasoline", and meant to add 1500 more. However, he immediatelly changed his demeanor, loudly demanding more (without saying how much). I said - to no avail - "u said only gasoline", but he denied it. Abandoning my good intention, I added another 500. He kept on, and I lost my patience. I wanted to show him the "gasoline" in the grindr chat, but cldnt find the chat. He told me he had deleted it (proving his intention to cheat), kept on demanding, and mentioned the police. I said "fine, we go to police, but first to hotel security". He followed me to rcption shouting, but suddenly rmmbrd he forgot his cap in my room. I said "if u want ur cap, give me back my money". He gave me 500, I got him his cap, but he started demanding the security guy that I pay him more. I was amazed at two things: that Jefrey isnt averse to telling-all to the security, and that the sec wasnt srprsed. He suggested I rtrn the 500 and that Jefry wld leave without additions, which is what happened. I apologized to the sec, and tipped him 500. Great sex; bad aftermath.

Richard Barrow describes a recent train journey to Udon Thani. His report includes some great photography, cultural and tourists places of interest along with places to stay and eat. Makes me want to buy a ticket and go. Good morning from Udon Thani Railway Station in Northeastern Thailand. I came here on Special Express No. 25 from Bangkok last night. I had booked a bed in the 2nd Class sleeper carriage which cost 977 Baht for the lower berth. The train left Bangkok at 8:25 p.m. and arrived in Udon Thani at 5:44 a.m. So, it was about nine hours. I had a good night’s sleep. Continues with photos: https://www.richardbarrow.com/2023/02/weekend-train-trip-to-udon-thani/

This is why you should do it in the GP sauna in Brazil. GPs there usually perform as promised, and don't argue or create a scene there.

What’s the world coming to that a 20-buck 3rd world gig ‘ho‘ won’t simply service obligingly without throwing at you the book or various & sundry hotel bath amenities?

and for us that live here - this is the dilemma that I cannot understand - how do they survive and break out of the constant poverty due to the variability of their income.

I much prefer a proper massage table with a face cradle. So I'm afraid delivery wouldn't be for me unless I happened to have my own table. Which I do...but I won't be carrying it to Bangkok with me...

I was way off on a picture of several parked cars. I judged by the year of the model car. The picture was much later.

RIP Kadu

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2015 ... was my 1st in Taiwan....was pretty unorganized, seems to have gotten better.

Yeah, it can definitely be called the Asia Gay Pride as it's gets around 7-10 more people than other Asian cities that hold a parade like: Tokyo, Bangkok, Manila, etc. Soi13 during that weekend is the same as that hot spring Peter described,. Packed with naked hot bodies. I remember the year before Covid started between the sauna and the apps I got not just local guys but also guys from: Vietnam, Thailand, Philippines, Singapore, Japan and mainland China. All of them were in town just for the pride, so definitely hotels get fully booked and the rates are higher than normal. If I remember it correctly they stopped doing that in 2019. Let's see what the program will be this year. Here are some of my pics from the years I've gone there:

Christ, I hope you’re kidding. Or maybe you live under a rock? 5 officers have been charged with his murder (it was a simple traffic stop), and another was just fired for his role. But let’s move along, no police corruption to see here!

Just came across this place. It's located near MRT Blue Line Charan 13 station. It has a Twitter site but if I link it here it will consume excessive space. Here's a sample of posted staff photos.

Update for January 2023 and thank you to the OP and all of the other posts: The peri post COVID world is a very different place. I had great luck on Grindr with regular guys as in the past. I think I only saw 1 pay for play boy and I was not interested. In Athens the Kosmopolit Cinema is closed. There are folks hanging out in the alley away from Onomia Square and towards the police station half a block away. Usually only 1-4 at a time, and I assume mostly druggies. There is one nice looking guy from pre COVID days that does hang out in front of the Cosmopolit Hotel occasionally. He also hangs out with the druggies too, LOL. Sometimes the police hang out in this area and thus there is no trade to be had. The hotel can still be used by the hour. 30 E for the guy and 10 E for the hotel. Only saw a very other folks hanging around and possibly plying trade in this area and towards Omonia Square sort of at the side of the Hondos Center and alley / street. Another hotel by the hour is the youth hostel on a perpendicular street about 2 blocks away. 10 E for 1 hour. Only saw women hanging out for trade here. The park north of the archeological museum still has some action, but far less than in the old days. The park is moderately large and I only walked around the several block areas near the Athena statue and entrance Konstantinos on horseback statue. Not sure of the cost, as I was not interested in those offering pay for play. Several potential boys never got away from their cell phones to say hi. All of the guys seemed to be in their 20s - 40s. Be aware that lots of kids and families now hang out in the park. Very few did in the past, when druggies predominated. Several times I did see some truly hot guys but going into the hotels with a client or likely on the way to meet a client. I do not speak greek or arabic and I think this is what those boys spoke. Never saw these boys again. Never sought trade in the big park near Plaka that folks talk about. Never sought trade much after sunset in a park. Also, too cold to do this at midnight. Samy's Bar is open, but I did not go there 1 am on a Friday / Saturday night. In the past, this general area had folks plying trade. Did not see anything obvious on this trip. Also did not see any places with "open" doors for folks to romp around in this trip. I would guess the local politicians have invested major resources to clean the area up. I had good luck at a very clean adult porn theatre about a 10 minute walk west of Cosmo. Just average horny guys, no pay for play. About 7-10 E entry fee. There is a grimier adult cinema perhaps 25 meters from the Economy Hotel, the one closet to the corner and perpendicular to the hotel, not the adjacent one a bit further away. Another porn places faces the Economy, but seemed permanently closed. Wow, had lots of fun here. One guy, likely in his 40s was about 10 E, others wanted more. Usually only 1-4 boys when I went and sometimes 1 or 2 were asleep sometimes on a couch or in the main theatre, LOL. Some spoke some English, others spoke no English, French, Spanish or German. Guys always asked for more when paying. Up to 30 E. There is an upper level and a lower level with lockable door rooms, but you need a cell phone for lighting, as there is none otherwise. One guy stole about 25 E from me and accosted me in the locked room as he wanted far more than agreed to. So be warned, some of this is rough trade. Despite screaming, no one will try to assist you. Did tell the guy who takes your 5 E entry so he could make sure the guy does not come in again. Also had the best sex in Athens trip with another boy to follow !! We had another romp a few days later in a hotel for an hour. Couple weeks later he calls me on what's app trying to get me to send him money, LOL. I mostly was looking from around 1400-1800 hrs in the park and Cosmo areas and as late as 2000 hrs at the cinema by Economy. All in all, despite a bit of danger, I had fun

I never knew about this....too bad so many have had problems, seems like the daytime is more dangerous than night, good thing I don't go out before 5pm. I'm going to Rio Tuesday and in over 20 yrs, the only times I've had problems, it was in SP in areas that I should not have gone especially while drinking. The sex in Brasil definitely makes it worth the risk, to me, given the odds of how many people go without issue 🤨

I may just use that at some point. Unsurprisingly he has reached out, presumably of course importuning for more business. However, I am leaving town for a while and already informed him of my travel dates during our meeting. In fact, I’d better rush lest risk flight check-in too late.

I left those forums years ago because it had such frequent bouts of nastiness. Life is too short to hang out with venomous jerks.

He made an appointment, and didn't show. I waited to see if he messaged me for 1.5 hours. He didn't. I wrote to say he missed it. He said, sorry, he could come now. But, I was already busy and said another time. For 5k without bargaining, I would have showed.

I would agree - In my case, I was invited along as the falang to celebrate a Thai birthday of one of my few Thai friends. However, as I note in this trip report - at the red chairs section of the Tien Beach - there were 2 gay workers - an older Thai gentleman, who was probably the manager of the red chairs establishment, and one of his staff, who was young (perhaps 23 or 25) and very sexy and cute and made it obvious that he was interested. When we checked Grindr - there were only a few (2 or 3) profiles active - and it was not evident if these "on Koh Larn" active profiles were day trippers or guys who were staying overnight like us. I guess the only way to find out would have been to check Grindr in the night time hours - which I did not. Since Pattaya and Jomtien are in close proximity - Grindr displays them as "near" - but they are truly back on the mainland requiring a 20 minute speed boat ride. I guess you could order-in :>)) So, bring your entertainment with you. If you are staying many days - you could order-in new entertainment each day and send the previous day's entertainment back to the mainland.

Thanks for the compliment 12is12. My passion to have new experiences drives me to write these tedious trip reports. Of course, I also like to have my fair share of sex - and why not while making a traveling adventure :>)) 12is12 - I have to say that I misused the adjective, "infamous" to describe the Klom Klom restaurant in my Koh Larn trip report. Based on the official explanation for the use of this adjective (see below) I should have instead described it as: popular, famous, trendy, in-place, etc. I had an incorrect internal mental definition for this word as being equal to famous where I had thought that by adding in+famous made it more historical in nature. I stand corrected.

Thanks Vinapu for remembering my early trip reports from 2012, 2013, etc.. Being retired has given me the luxury of having the free time required to write these types of detailed trip reports. As you know, I very much appreciate maps in trip reports because of the way my brain works. If I can see a visualization of where a given location is on a map - it greatly helps me understand where a given place is and the best way to get there. Recently 12is12 showed me how to insert custom geographical pinpoints onto Google maps. This made me realize that I can use this Google feature to enhance my future trip reports and as I get older (deteriorating memory) help me to remember where I have already been to avoid that in my future that I have groundhog day experiences. In that way I can see everything once and avoid repeating them - good for the budget :>))

Bkk, u obviously set a new standard for detailed tempting posts here, certainly for issues other than sex. Kudos! Why is klom klom "infamous"?

With all due rspct Scott, thousands of enjoyable paid sex ecounters occur in both parts of the world. People who want 100% security should indeed follow ur example. (-:

So, why did he keep talking back while on the ground and was in the position to get up while on the ground? And he ran away. I didn't see any police corruption here.