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First time trip report- please be kind. Arrived Thursday night/Friday morning. Flight was uneventful and we landed at BKK at about midnight. Took about 20 mins through immigration and bags were already rolling out. Picked up my bag and went to get a cab. Stall number 46 was my guy, and away we went. The driver was hauling ass most of the ride, and then slowed down to a crawl on the mostly empty highway. I realized he didn't know how to get to The Raya- (thanks Vinapu), despite me showing him the address in Thai. I whip out google maps and then direct the ride for the final 20 mins. Upon arrival, I suggest the driver should pay me since I did the navigation. He didn't think this was quite as funny as I did, but I tipped him well so all was forgiven. Checked in, checked the apps, and passed out. Friday- I decided to walk around to see what had changed since the pandemic. I walked past Green Massage to see if my guy was still there. It was relatively early, but there were only 2/3 people sitting outside, and my guy was not one of them. (When in Bangkok, I like to treat myself to a foot massage almost every day, as it's so cheap. I found a guy at Green that is great. Once, he convinced me to go upstairs for a full body massage, and it got sexy! He's not really my type, but he was so nice and eager, so I enjoyed the massage and the extras with him. Let's call him U. I figured he went back home during the pandemic and I would never see him again, but I went to check anyway. Hope springs eternal they say.) So, as I walked past the dog leg near Prime Massage, I am almost at Silom Road when I hear me name being called. Turn around, and there's U! He's a at Relax Thai Massage now- on the right after the dogleg. The guys there all wear black. Anyway, we hug and chat for a minute, and I tell him I will be back in an hour and get a foot massage. AMAZING start to Day 1. But I was on a mission so I continued on my way to: Foodland! I needed to get my favorite facial soap and they sell it there. I got the soap and some other things and check out. I was tempted to drop into the Unesco World Heritage Site 5 Michelin starred restaurant, but I had a foot massage scheduled and I needed to drop off my purchases. So we will have to save it's delights for another day. Foot massage was great, as always, and U would stick his hands up my shorts and tickle my balls every once in a while- I would smile and he would giggle. He's very sweet and I am glad he is back in Bangkok. We chatted about the pandemic and losing work for so long (I also lost work the entire time) so I could fully empathize. Massage ended and Ieft with a promise to return the next day for another. Paid and tipped and went to lunch at Mango Tree. I have a tradition of Pad Thai at Mango for my first lunch in Bangkok. I also wanted to see the situation on that soi, so I walked down that way after lunch. Couldn't really figure out what was happening with the new place Queen or New Twilight or whatever- confusing to say the least. Will need further investigation. Back to hotel to relax for a minute and shower as I was heading to Arena in the late afternoon. I walked down Silom and into the plaza were Arena is. Went up and was met outside by the boss man. He said something as he opened the door, and about 20/25 guys all hopped up. I usually just pick a guy I like the looks of and see what happens. In this case it was a muscular guy who had a really great smile and seemed eager. So up I went with Mike. We got to the room and I took another shower. Mike comes in and he showers and is just as sexy naked as I thought. He speaks decent English and is nervously chatting and laughing. He tells me it's his first day, which of course I do not believe. But when the massage starts, I think- maybe it's true... Instead of a half-assed attempt at massage, I start to get pulled and twisted and pummeled as in a traditional Thai massage. This is unexpected, but very nice. The nervous chatter and laughter continues throughout. He also places little kisses and bites on my ass every once in a while- nice touch! About 20 mins later, he starts with the requested cream massage. This feels awesome and he uses his strong arms and body all over me. He grabs my hand and puts in on his nice sized rock hard cock. He then asks to fuck me- but I am a top so I say "I fuck you!" More nervous laughter as he apologizes, but I say it's OK- no problem. We continue the massage and he starts to jerk me off and play with my ass. It's not gonna happen, but does feel nice. The ending was strong and I was sweaty. I get in the shower and he gets in with me and soaps me up and continues to grind on me and smack my ass- like we are in the locker room. He tells me several more times that I am the one to "open" him- meaning first customer. We dry off and get dressed and he playfully changes out my shoes with his- all the while laughing and joking with me. It was a thoroughly enjoyable experience for sure! Was I really his first customer? Or was that just more Magic of Thailand? I suppose there's no way to know, but it was a great afternoon. Back to hotel, short nap, and then off to get some dinner. I stopped in Hotmale Beer Bar and had a pint. Chatted with the guys there, then on to Soi 4, as I haven't yet seen it with life. It was hopping at about 8 pm! Went to Circus and had some fried rice and another pint. Then off to Dreamboys to see how it was. I loved Lucky Boys, so I was hopeful. Well- let's just say the guys weren't great. Seated in the back and left alone by the managers, and there were probably 25 other customers inside. There were a few guys that would be fine, but as it was early, I paid the outrageous sum of 500 baht for my beer, and ventured over to Hotmale upstairs. Only 4 other customers there. But i ordered a beer and there were some cuties for sure. One guy caught my eye, number 32. Cambodian guy, super cute, gay, and speaks good English! Score! He goes and gets his clothes and I pay for our beers and the bar fine and off we go. As it wasn't even 10pm yet, we walked back over to Soi 4, and a tout that I knew from BC (before covid) managed to pull us into Banana Room. The show was going on, so we were seated by the infamous Lucy. I am feeling generous, so I buy Lucy a drink, for old times sake. My Cambodian (S) enjoyed the show- said he had never seen it before. I also gave him a few red notes to tip the performers which he seemed to like doing. We watch the show and it ends with big cocks on the metal pole. Pay the tab and head out. We dropped back by Hotmale Beer Bar for a nightcap and talked. S was very touchy-feely and planted kisses on my cheek and lips. Very friendly and fun. Paid up there and went back to the hotel. As soon as we get int he door, he drops his clothes. I ask if he wants a shower. No, he says. After, with you. Alright then. So we get into bed and he lived up to his promise to do everything. And everything we did. A really passionate and fun guy! We hopped in the shower after and went to bed. Snuggled all night then woke up and had a morning session. We got each other off again, showered and he left. So that's how my morning started on Day 2. He is a definite repeat. More later...

Day 3 Day 3 began with a morning session with my sexy Filipino J. After, we walked to Silom soi 26, but were too late forthe morning vendors and too early for the afternoon vendors. I thought we may end up at Unesco World Heritage, but J suggested we try Silom Edge fool court. There are about 12-15 options and we had a nice lunch there. Open 24 hours too, for that late night snack. After lunch we said goodbye as I had plans for the afternoon. Went back to the hotel and showered, did some work, then walked over to Senso. Greeted by about 15 guys, each cuter than the next, but one guy, J, was wearing glasses and so cute, so he was my pick. Let's just say, I picked well. The massage started with my feet and legs, then back and shoulders. J was named from the beginning and feeling his body against mine was exceptional. When it came time to turn over, he asked what I like- I told him I am a top. He took a moment then went and got his supply pouch. He slapped a condom on me and lubed up and began to sit on my cock. It wasn't going well at first. I could tell he didn't bottom a lot. So, he pulled out some poppers and with a few whiffs of that he managed to get all the way down. We stayed in that position for a while as he got used to it but once he was comfortable, it was off to the races. His sexy abs and pecs were amazing to see and feel while we fucked. An absolute delight and highly recommended. Tipped him, well, in the room then went down to pay. The ugly mamasan at the counter tried to quote me a higher price than on the menu. I refused and showed her the menu price. Shame on her- anf I remmerb that happening there once before. I do not mind paying a premium price for a premium service, but don't overcharge from the price list. Went back to hotel and showered. A quick pint with the boys of Hotmale Beer Bar, then off to Circus for dinner and part of the drag show. After, I bought some of the knock-off underwear on Silom and took it back to the hotel. I was feeling kind of tired, but decided to go out anyway. Ended up at Banana Room where I was seated next to a very drunk Chinese customer with a bottle of Bacardi (gross) and multiple shot glasses generally making a spectacle of himself by giving shots and tips to the staff. Not my style so I moved down and was seated in the front. There were a couple cuties, but I thought I might have an early night. Just then, an American from Texas came in and was seated right behind me. We started chatting and it turns out to be his first time night in Bangkok ever, and he was amazed. I explained how it all works, and he said "So they're all prostitutes" I replied "Well, that's a rather unartful word, but yes". I called down a cute guy that had been making eyes at me during the show to demonstrate to Texas how it works. Shortly, Texas left as his Grindr was blowing up, and I ended up offing the guy. We got back to my hotel, but I was really tired so I paid the tip to the boy, and asked him to leave. He apologized profusely, but I assured him he did nothing wrong- I was just totally zonked. So day three ended alone, but that was perfectly fine, as J had worn me out that afternoon. And, I had a date with P the next night anyway, so a good night sleep seemed like a good idea. I will explain P in the next post. More later...

One disaster that was is the crash of the Yeti Air turbo prop about to land at Pokhara in Nepal on Sunday. The airport was quite new but I cannot believe that was a major contribution to the crash. We'll find out in due course. I have flown that route twice - in November 1980 and November 2009. Kathmandhu Domestic ariport must be the most inefficient and disgusting in the world. Both flights were due to take off around 1:00 pm. The first did, but it was cloudy all the way. That struck me as odd because Nepalese Airlines have to fly by visiual flight rules. If all the pilots saw was cloud, how did they make it safely to Pokhara? The 2009 flight almost never took off. The terminal smelled of urine, all flights were delayed and all monitors were broken. Flights were announced verbally by a man with a voice few could hear. My flight was delayed and delayed to the point where we were informed if the incoming plane did not arrive by round 4:30 pm, we would not be able to take off as it would be too dark to land at Pokhara. Eventually just before 4:30 we were asked to board. We were in the air about 15 minutes later. This time it was a bright sunny late afternoon and I was staggered at how close the aircraft flew to the mountains on the right. We landed with some light still guiding the pilot down. I asume the pilot of my 1980 flight had a good idea how close he was to those mountains. Pokhara when I first visited was a small village with one main pot-holed road lined with guest houses. But getting up at 5:00 am for the hour long trek up the hill to watch dawn break over the Himalayas resulted in one of the greatest sights I have seen anywhere. As dawn broke, the clouds I assumed I had seen in the sky were in fact mountain peaks. The Annapurna range is literally just across a valley and boasts one peak over 8,000 meters, 13 over 7,000 meters and 16 over 6,000 meters. I think that experience was as close as I have ever come to a religious experience. When I returned, Pokhara had become a city of over half a million and packed with tourists. The hour's morning trek was just a 7 minute car ride to the look-out point at Sarangot. This had well over 100 young Japanese and Koreans waiting for dawn to break. Unfortunately, trailing clouds from a cyclone over the Bay of Bengal meant the view was not as crystal clear as it had been 29 years earlier. But still utterly awesome.

sounds like 12 lost tribes of Israel

Day 2- Day 2 began with a morning session with the sexy Cambodian S, from Hotmale. We showered and he left. I decided I wanted a coffee, so went out to the street and got a coffee from a street stall, and fresh watermelon. Where else can you get a giant iced coffee and watermelon for less than 2 bucks? Walked around and found a shady spot to eat and sip my coffee. It was early so it was still cool so I just explored a little bit. Soon it was time for my daily foot massage with the amazing U at Relax Thai Massage. It was pure bliss as always. Afterward, I decided to have lunch at the traditionally Thai-named Happy Beer Garden. I was pleasantly surprised by the food quality, and the service was efficient and friendly. Maybe too friendly- more on that later. After lunch I put in a couple hours of work, then got showered and dressed to go meet J. I have been chatting with J for a few months on Grindr. He's not a MB, just a sexy 25 year-old Filipino living and working in Bangkok. I hit him up in October, thinking I would be in Bangkok soon. Work had other plans for me, so we have kept in touch these last several months. We planned to meet at Shenanigan's, then head off to the night market for dinner and to have a look around. He was about 20 minutes late, but when he arrived, I was pleasantly surprised. Exactly my type- a little shorter than me, smooth brown skin, and muscular legs. Perfection! We took the MRT to the Jodd Fairs night market which seems to be the newest one. Not sure what I was expecting on a Saturday night, but it was SUPER packed and busy. We walked around for a bit looking for a place to eat, when J suggested Spaghetti Seafood. I looked at the menu (but not the tables of other diners) and agreed. Once we were seated, I realized what we were in for. Essentially, you choose which seafood you like (we chose mixed) and they then lay down wax paper. A bucket of seafood with a tomato based sauce is then dumped in front of you. We also ordered the "cheese burn" because hot cheese. Well, they drop shredded cheese all over the seafood then burn it with a torch right on the table. We both watched this process unfold with our eyes growing larger and larger! You then don plastic gloves and eat with your hands. Whomever said you shouldn't order anything messy on a "first date" would be horrified, but we had a great time talking and laughing and being messy. After, we had a couple beers at the open area and listened to a woman screech out some Thai hits. She wasn't very good, but it added to the overall experience, for sure. Time to head back to Silom, so we check Grab and see 250 Baht, so we approach tuk-tuk driver number 1. He says 500. J is not having this. We got to the next driver as driver 1 holds up his hand (5) in an attempt at price fixing. Second driver immediately undercuts him and says 400. J, still not satisfied, approaches tuk-tuk 3. Driver one holds up hand-5. Driver 3 says 400. The process repeats until we are several more tuk-tuks down the line. Eventually we get a driver for 200. J is satisfied with this and we hop in. As we ride past driver 1, J waves at him and holds up 2 fingers. I decide I like this guy! When we get back, I pay the driver 300 Baht- we still got a deal, and he made a little more money. Everyone wins! We settle into some seats at Unicorn to watch the gays pass by. Laughing and chatting and beer- soon we are feeling good and J wants to go to GOD. I do not love crowds, but I agree and we go. It was actually fun, so long as you stay on the balcony level. We dance for a while, but it is soon time to head back to the hotel as the bars are closing. J wants another couple beers for the room, but it's late. We pass by Happy Beer Garden and he asks if we can get a couple to go. The waitress says yes, and calls me by my name! She must have read it on my credit card earlier in the day, and remembered- I was surprised, to be sure. So we get back in the room and J goes to set the bottles on the table and they roll off the table onto the tile floor and CRASH. Now we have broken glass beery mess- I take one look at it and at J, who is shirtless and super embarrassed and say fuck it- this can wait. I throw a towel over the mess, move the coffee table on top so we don't step on it in the middle of the night, and roll into bed. He is a very passionate kisser and an excellent bottom. We have an athletic session and finally pass out after- He fits in my arms perfectly, so we snuggle most of the night. In the morning, I wake up to him pressing his cock up against me, so it's time for round 2. Even better than the night before. So that's how day 3 started! More later...

we are getting to slippery subject of what reasonable is, all that while waiting for day 4 of original subject of this thread

I've seldom had issues checking in early. It will take a while to get from the airport to the hotel at that time of day. If the hotel has rooms available they will probably check you in. But if you're concerned I would contact them directly to see what their policy is. They might charge a small amount to check in early. In any case probably 99.9% of hotels will be able to hold your bags for you until check in time.

Not really convenient to a good bus/subway line......when I went, there were always a few looking to hitch a ride back downtown. The bus lets off down a steep hill that you need to walk up..... I don't recall any of their suites having a shower inside either, maybe 1 does 🤔 Lagoa got a decent location, I like the location better than their old pace. Most of the guys visiting, rent or share a room nearby or in Republica....Fragata's old place was a block from good bus lines.

Vinapu, this is VERY good advice. I have had 2 separate occasions that I can remember where I was hungry before a scheduled massage and I ate. That is a BIG no-no. During the massage I felt like I was going to vomit several times depending on where the masseur(s) were pressing on my body. At one point, I had to tell the masseur that I was getting off of the massage table as I felt like I would vomit - he was worried it was him - I said, no, it was my stupidity - I ate shortly before the massage. Anyway, we changed the program around and had the fun part first and then the completion of the massage afterwards and I am happy to say that NO hurls were ejected from my stomach.

I'd not call Foodland meals fancy. Tasty and economical , yes. True I champion it tirelessly and I practice what I preach, not only because of food but also it's very practical meeting point and also not a bad when one is looking for hookups. After bars close one can spot girls and boys dining there. In the morning one may spot farangs breakfasting with their catch of the previous night. One may say what it has to do with 3 way massage etc. I remind purists that it's advised not to have a meal up to 2 hrs before massage so obviously after , one will be hungry and where to satisfy that hunger if not in such multi awarded , Unesco elevated place ?

Many shops offer four-hand massage. That seems to be a good starting point for a potential 3-way once the door closes.

As the doctor states at the start of that video, the right decision would have been for all countries in the world to treat all visitors to all countries equally! The implication being that there is no unanimous agreement about Chinese tourism while the pandemic is out of control in that country. I also note his comments are littered with "maybe", "could be" "I think . . ." "I expect . . ." That sure gives listeners a great deal of confidence!

Simply not true. How else would Foodland have its many customers from these forums or would they have the awards that they do without your championing? I think not.

It is always a surprise to me, why Sao Paulo has a much larger population, but only one good sauna, Logoa also the locals in SP should be richer?

From Coconuts Bangkok Free shuttles linking Bangkok’s downtown rail terminal to the capital’s new main station will commence Thursday. To ease the transition of rail services from the Bangkok Railway Station to the Krung Thep Apiwat Grand Station – located about 10 kilometers away – regular buses will shuttle travelers between them. Thursday is when nearly half of the trains operating out of the former station (aka Hua Lamphong and actually a terminal) will move to the new national “terminal” (actually a station) in Bangkok’s Bang Sue district. Blue NGV buses will travel between the two stations every half hour between 4:30am and 11pm. So, where to find the bus? As of 5pm on Tuesday, a BMTA rep said that they hadn’t figured that out yet. The service will be run jointly by the bus operator Bangkok Mass Transit Authority and the state railway.

thanks God they did not catch me, I don't like black hats

Vinapu, I wld never have guessed that u r a non-primary englsh spkr....

I can’t even …

While I never had any kind of problems that's advice I received on few occasions from well trained and experienced masseurs and ' masseurs' . One was blunt " you don't want to go to bathroom in the middle of session" Since thread is about 3 ways and 4 hands I like to remind the whole world again that it was YOU who first suggested I should try 4 hand massage in long gone GuySpa in Sukhumvit soi 23. You see - good deeds are never forgotten !

Exactly, u could leave your luggage and go and have breakfast/coffee and maybe massage

Maybe you can arrange early check in but that’s very early. Best option is to book a cheap room somewhere so you have easy access to shower/bed/storage.

It sure is not a good idea to have a full stomach while getting a massage.

I don't eat before massage or sex, because I'm worried about it coming out the other end 😳

"If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all." There was once a mmbr in these frms, who had a rather.....scornful style, eliciting not a few hurtful or angry rspnss. I politely PMed him abt it. To his credit (and my srprs) he gracefully accptd my cmnt, and chngd acrdngly. I humbly venture to submit this as the prfrd venue for cnstrctv crtcsm; a frms equivalent for The Golden Rule. (-:

I must say I find 12is12's alteration of the spelling of words bothersome. But then I never used "Pig Latin" in grammer school. So I just skip his posts...

alone? that's outright sin. I always do at least round walk Suriwong , soi 6, Silom, Patpong 2, Suriwong , Thaniya, Silom by soi 4 just to get grasp of what is going on and sometimes like last Oct I get lucky

really ?, I thought it was on Thursday

I'd also suggest a bit of patience. I was solicited on grndr for free...

Yes, yes, yes, and I've missed tremendously. Hope to feel many of these in 2024 or 25 if not before.

It's OK, I'm sure the PRC will be happy to loan them some money to bail them out. Oh wait.

When I first travelled to Pattaya as a gay tourist 21 years ago, I had previously spent holidays on the Spanish island of Gran Canaria specifically at the resort of Maspalomas where nude sunbathing was accepted on one section of the beach which was popular amongst the gay community including myself ( I would say that in those days I definitely had the body for it which is not the case now) During my first visit to Pattaya I discovered the gay Dongtan beach but was disappointed to find that the dress code was beach wear. Making enquirers I found that being naked outdoors was not in the Thai culture, so I never tried it. I did wear a Lycra thong a couple of times on the beach but got quite a few disapproving looks. Even at the Sansuck gay sauna I never saw any nudism round the pool.

If you enter BBB, there is a sign saying there is no prostitution here. I guess they are telling the truth now that the paper and police also says the same thing.

For bacterial STI, yes... But HIV is viral, so u need antiviral. For HIV, post exposure is PEP.

I have not had a 4 hand massage and is definitely on my list for next trip. Maybe one in a massage shop and see what happens and then if extra services are not forthcoming I will sort it out via the apps. I have not used the @vinaputechnique of getting a boy to suggest the partner but it seems sound and sensible advice to me. As can be banked on from such a pro in all things Thailand related.

As long as the sex venues are paying the tea money on time it certainly makes all the workers there legal.

he was gross or Bacardi is gross.....🤔

we are still negotiating. seems he had a boy friend before (and girl friends) , so says his aunt...... quite a bit of joking going on, I said I would like tot interview him for a job. he asked if I wanted his resume... I said no just come to my room...

As I reported on another forum, I had excellent 3 way, via the apps. I was contacted by a sexy guy who offered a 3way, everything, he said, kissing, sucking, fucking, licking etc. He sent pics of his friend, very sexy, and they came to Le Meridien, no problems, and he was as good as his word! Great sex, all round. He only wanted 4,000, so I gave him 500 extra.

The title that appears in this post is from a current article on the website of the Economist. It can be accessed only after registration: https://www.economist.com/culture/2023/01/12/how-cambodian-music-survived-the-horrors-of-the-khmers-rouges From the London Review Bookshop -- Away From Beloved Lover. By Dee Peyok. Granta In the swinging 1960s, after nearly a century of colonisation, Cambodia had gained its independence and was ready to rock. Young musicians from the countryside flocked to the vibrant cosmopolitan capital city of Phnom Penh. Teenagers cycled along the Mekong River, guitars slung across their backs, on their way to rehearse Khmer covers of The Beatles or Pink Floyd. The city was a melting pot of sound: old fashioned rock'n'roll, early heavy metal, crooners and swooners and love duets. The music stopped on 17th April 1975: the Khmer Rouge army captured Phnom Penh, ending the civil war and beginning the genocide. Around 90% of the musicians died in the killing fields. But a few fled, to the US or France, taking what remained of their music with them. In Away From Beloved Lover, Dee Peyok travels across Cambodia, piecing together the story of the country and its golden era of music. She interviews surviving superstars and their relatives in places as disparate as a traditional house on stilts by a rice paddy, an artist's studio deep in the ancient forests, and a cafe in the new, divided Phnom Penh. Away From Beloved Lover is a musical travelogue that tells the story of Cambodia, past and present, in a thrilling new way. It is an immersive exploration of a country set to a soundtrack too long silenced, and finally able to play.

From Pattaya Mail By Barry Kenyon Marlowe Malhotra, who runs Vicky Travel, reckons that the boom times are returning to Pattaya. “International air fares to and from Thailand are at last slowly coming down,” he says, “whilst the massively expanded U-tapao airport is providing fast motorway links to both Bangkok and Pattaya.” A Pattaya businessman since the 1970s, Marlowe expects Thailand as a whole to see 25 million visitors in 2023, with at least 9 million homing in on Pattaya. The biggest factor, according to Marlowe, is the abolition of the requirement for tourists to show health and insurance documentation to get into Thailand. “There was some confusion about the issue in early January which led to some Europeans cancelling their vacations, but Thailand is now just as open as before the pandemic.” He reckons that the pent-up demand for foreign travel is only just beginning. Vicky Travel, almost unique in Pattaya for having remained open throughout the pandemic, is diversifying beyond just selling air tickets or booking accommodation. “Many Europeans, Americans and Australians want side trips to neighboring countries such as Cambodia or Vietnam and may well require an online visa as well as pre-flight registration,” says Marlowe’s daughter Vicky. “Because we are up to date with the requirements and the online systems, we are getting more and more enquiries.” Marlowe accepts that India and Russia – and potentially China of course – have expanding niche markets in Thailand, he notes that many of the longstay visitors are British and Scandinavians. For example, most of the one-day visa runners to the Cambodian border are European passport holders seeking another 45 days on entry plus another month later at local immigration. “They can actually spend five months in Thailand without needing a prior visa, with just a single day trip to the border, and the European snowbird retirees are certainly taking advantage of this.” “Of course, Pattaya is changing. It always has been. It’s no longer a wild west town and has become more family orientated with business conferences now flocking to the high class hotels. But its beaches are still the second most popular seaside search on the internet and there’s no shortage of raunchy night life for those seeking it. Pattaya has found the secret of continuous expansion as the criticisms just bounce off.” That’s evolution.

If i might add to these, always check higher tier rooms from the hotels in the list below. Often, upgrading to one or two tier up is not much but the upgrade is often really great. Ill add furama silom also in the list below. A superior there though same size as the deluxe, will left u with a lower floor room with outdated furniture and small bahtroom with shower only. While a deluxe will gives u fully renovated new furnitures, design, and much bigger bathroom with bathtub and glass wall plus your room will be on the higher floor with better view. In the case of raya, the grand deluxe suite will have a separate living and kitchennete, while the suite will have a full size fridge and microwave as well on top of being much bigger in size. In zing, their pool suite will have a one bedroom, oversize living area and direct pool access on the ground floor. The deluxe plus option will give u a smallish balcony but the most important upgrade is the luxurious queen bed, which felt like the one in say meridien or hilton hehe. Ambiance penthouse have separate living area and terrace outside with view of the boyztown downstair. All of this upgrades usually still cost less than the price of the cheapest room in say meridien or hilton.

paid the 20 yro pool boy 100 pesos to wash my bike with no shirt. he was very happy.

They have sexy guys. The rooms do not look good and that is important to me. Their home service is 3500, which is 2k above their inhouse.

Very true, everywhere you can use a very powerful tool : eye contact + smile contact One late afternoon, i was walking in Silom with my boy. I had eye contact with a very cute muscular boy who was sitting waiting for a bus. My boy noticed the eye contact and said nothing. I then smiled to the muscular boy, just to be friendly... my boy just jump on me "you want him now ? why ? ", i said no no, he replied " you made smile contact, in Thailand, that means you want him now" I didn't forget that 🙂

@floridarob @Floridarob, we are completely different then. I'm an insatiable slut with a hungry hole. I prefer the crowded sauna with endless garatos with their big hard dicks swinging. the rate in the sauna was $120R which was about $27US dollars, I believe. whenever we hired someone to come to the apartments, we paid them $60US for one person and double for us both. the airbnb cost are through the room, but for what you get in return with all those beautiful brazalian men, I'm happily absorb the high cost of the airbnb for the week. in the saunas, those guys know that there is stiff (pun intended) competition in town and will lower their prices to make extra side money. most of the men are using some sort of enhancement pill to keep their dicks rock hard and almost all of them are going to give you the fukc of your life because they want the repeat business.

I always try to find a gay "guide" who is with me almost 24/7. I prefer one I can sleep with and my ad for a guide on grindr states the same (GPS spoof into the area). when a man responds to the ad that I like, i try to build a friendship before I arrive. While I can and do enjoy being a slut, I am very happy with a single compatible friendly local man. Biggest problem I have is clingy possessive marry me issues. I am in the Philippines with a "BF" guide now. fun to be with, good in bed, hope I can keep him as a friend, no a husband. But, I would also hire a local non-sexual guide. In an ad for service, if non-sexual, I would prefer they state that like SiamRoads. (however, I have old experience with one SiamRoads guide that leads me to believe some may be more flexible as would be expected if there is some attraction). I would also like a picture. when window shopping guides, a sexy man will always get my first call.

A Taste of the Philippines All Pics of guys I know there, with their permission

During New Year's Eve afternoon visited an excellent male brothel in the centre of Bogota. Found this service on the mileroticos link below: https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts-gay/insecretco-agencia-de-alto-nivel-para-caballeros-servicio-privado-de-bar/23746735/ Sent a message to the WhatsApp number shown and received a catalogue of available boys within an hour. Could not resist choosing the "6 hands massage $300,000 & (3) model (60) minutes" option given the extremely low price and promising pics of the guys offered. Received a prompt reply to my message from the venue manager confirming the availability of my boy selections for a 2 pm appointment the next day and provided the house location. He asked for my sexual preference and said my selected guys would meet this. In the evening received a further message asking me to confirm my booking, and in the morning was sent a goole map showing the house, located in a city centre residential area (Transversal 26). The house was very well appointed, clean and comfortable. It felt as though I was in someone's home as opposed to a brothel. Upon arrival was taken to one of four upstairs bedrooms by one of my selected boys. Was told to wait in the room for the manager to arrive. This turned out to be one of the guys for the catalogue. He went over the terms with me and asked for the payment. As I counted the cash, he pointed to my erection bulging in my pants, went on his knees and proceeded to give me an unprompted blow job. This lasted less than 30 seconds. He then said the boys will soon arrive, took the cash and left the room. Within a minute the first boy arrived with a big simile and gave me a kiss on the month, we both undressed as the second and third entered the room. Two of the guys were from Venezuela and the other was from Medellin. Two were 20 years old and the other 22. It was obvious that all three were gay as they talked about which guy was the hottest on gay porn playing on TV. We basically spend 10 mins kissing, 20 sucking and 20 funking and the last 10 mins chatting on the bed. All three guys were happy to suck my dick in turn while the others were playing with other parts of my body, kissing me or shoving their dick into my mouth. They constantly asked what they could do to please me. The big big dicked Venezuelan said he was active only. Had no issue with this as his was dick was most delicious and he was an expert kisser/sucker. Fucking the other two guys was more than enough for me. All three guys were true to the photos provided and had no issues getting hard. Obviously, they had been selected to work in this house not just for their good looks and sexual prowess. Will most certainly visit this house again when I next visit Bogota.

Again, my recommendation is Cebu City. Not as crowded as Manila so easier to get around. And many Guys on Grinder or Romeo. Just sign up there and say what you are looking for... I also enjoy going outside the City. Like to Bantayan Island or over to Palawan. Both have beautiful beaches. Take a new friend with you to enjoy all there is to do. The Philippines is not just for Sex. Many sweet and fun guys or men there to go out, drink, disco, eat, and of course shop!! ENJOY

The only thing is you will have to look for it ,unlike Pattaya,Either Grindr or going out to meet boys, so it doesnt suit a lazy person or under confidence person,I'm a introvert but I still did it I love all the top guys the Phillipines has There is gay sauna in Manila But go out and meet guys ,best way like I did is ask guys especially those without a shirt on for a picture with you ,slip them 100 pesos , give them your card with a number Get cards printed with your number I was gang fucked in Gensan by 4 young dark skin factory boys from 19yo to 23 all came inside me ,I think I paid 3000 pesos all 4 of them plus alcohol ,my bf did get them for me though , I had a sign on me CUMDUMP and my bf took pics as they were fucking me , all took Viagra , I also had much free sex from Grindr mostly straighttradies with Hilux utes