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Day 8 No morning rush other than trying to get up before they close for breakfast. We made it. Then V left his way and I, as every day went to Unesco for daily talk with my friend. We will be parting our ways tomorrow , he is going home and I fly to my next destination Luang Prabang. It was fun to chase guys at the same time . We were truly concerned how HC is doing owing to his puzzling behavior and praising unfailing V and other guys we both were happy with. I resolved to get energetic today as Laos trip was supposed to be touristy, not boy chasing. Early afternoon we went together to Arena. I picked up guy I never saw before and it was good choice. I left happy and so was my friend with his . Then he went his way and I took leisurely stroll to Senso hoping M , my pre-covid favorite will show up. Unfortunately no. Today’s selection was quite limited to 4 guys only , one of them was guy whom I had before I went to Cambodia. He cut me on time than and today pretended not even to recognize me hardly convincing three weeks later. His loss as I like him and had he been smiling order were his. Since he did not I took next in line for attractiveness. It was notch above OK , just that, so I can’t say Senso this trip thrilled me much. Yesterday in passing I promised P, new guy from Hot male beer bar to take him this afternoon. It looked he is lacking Swiss genes HC has as at agreed hour he was still no-show. Since after 2 massages in row I felt hungry I told guys there to ask him to wait for me and went to soi 4 for my schnitzel, Good move as I walked perhaps 10 steps and P appeared on horizon. I paid off fee and we both marched to G’Bangkok and from there to my room. He is straight, very good looking , handsome and muscular but not quite sure if he is in right line of work as I had impression I could be his first client. Inexperience could be sensed easily so I decided to be angelically patient, two steps forward , one back and so on and actually had fun with that. It was relieving after several minutes the he is loosening up too. No pressure, relax , do you want another beer? , slowly but surely at one point we found ourselves in the next room , one where bed is. Ice was broken , at least to a degree, I actually enjoyed it as quite new experience. I like my guys older so usually they are long in teeth when comes to their job, this time it was refreshingly different. I also liked to see my gentle side , lol. It was rewarding to see hesitance melting and even more when time come to give a tip. Smile was wide and I have feeling ever since he will like his new calling. I walked him, visibly relaxed and happy it’s over back to the bar as I wanted to talk to paulsf. Soon after anddy joined us and we had nice time there talking and flirting with their guys. It was almost 11 when I kissed good bye to everybody and went to Tawan. Of course greeted with handshakes and smiles not only by quite a few boys as always but also by ladyboys performing on the stage” welcome KFC men” and all. A little disappointingly for some ATM today was rusty, no drinks for K, Dam and twink Mas who expectingly joined me at the table immediately but I found red notes for each of them and all three nice ladyboys on the stage as well. There was one guy who was waiting quietly in the shadows, muscle god B whom I see on my first night when originally arrived and following day before I went to Cambodia. He could afford patience as he new from earlier Line to him that if I show tonight it will be because I want ride to hotel on his motorbike. We made detour to Foodland as he was hungry, I treated myself with some dessert still full after schnitzel and then all those drinks at HotMale. In the room he proved his worth, not that I ever doubted it but it’s nice when hired guy shows that he actually is happy with his task at hand. I satisfied his vanity side my praising his musculature but it’s worth a praise , not a gram of fat. It was great finish to day 8 and actually all Thai leg of this trip. Day 9 In the morning I felt it was right to up his tip by another 1000. Again no morning rush, just to get to breakfast on time , then I waved him good bye, returned to room to pack whatever little I had. Then had last walk around Silom and Surwong. Couldn’t see my friend as he was busy with finishing touches of his trip as well. Then BTS to Silom, MRT to Bang Sue and SRT red line to Don Muang. It took bit over 1 hour but immigration and boarding went fast and smoothly and soon I was waving good bye to our beloved Thailand for second time this trip. Good bye Bangkok, welcome Luang Prabang. Laos part of trip will be reported in a separate thread in due course. We have awful weather so it may be soon.

Day 2 Started my day late, after sleeping in and waking up late, and had some work to do as well. 1st stop - Arena again This time I took a grab there, 600m ride for 99 baht. Walking through silom plaza and again seeing guys up there on the 3rd floor looking down. They probably known I'm headed to Arena haha, so embarrassing, I just avoid looking up at them. Again 15 shirtless muscley guys flexing and smiling before me. I chose the one with the biggest smile and eagerness - Tao. Nice muscles and chest and abs and handsome too. 790 baht for the room on paper.. Ok, 800 baht. The change they return me was just 200 baht not that I cared. Massage was good and hard, felt close to a proper hard legit massage, you know it's legit when you start to feel pain. When I turned around, we were grinding body on body with oil, cock on cock mm.. He started kissing my neck, licking my nipples, and started sucking my cock, finally came as he grinded up and down on me with his hard cock rubbing against mine. wew.. Still had some time and he gave me a head/neck massage ( very similar to the previous arena masseur - perhaps this is a common repertoire when there is time left post cumming). He showered with me which was nice. He asked me to find him again if I were to come back to bangkok heh, yea probably I will. 2nd stop - Senso Walked towards Senso, but decided to walk around Silom area to look around, didn't want to have another massage right away as I was still sore from the previous massage. Walked by Senso, didn't feel like going in immediately with people around, but heck, walked back and went in nonchalently. Ok drama, previously I kind of like hung out with this masseur after he massaged me at Prince. We kind of hit it off well during the massage, made out a lot and had lots of fun. We also went for dinner/shopping next few days, I went clubbing with his friends and I even visited his apartment. And of course we had lots of in bed activities. Well of course I had to head back to my country and while we chatted on line for a while, I subsequently kinda ghosted him.. I mean I was back to reality and while chatting is nice, I mean idk, I didn't see much point ( am i bad =( ). Well I felt kinda bad. When senso was reinstated, I saw his picture on Senso website and I'm like oops.. Can I still go back there? Played a 50-50 chance of him not being there that day but well of course he was. Luckily, i was wearing face mask so i think he didn't recognise me, I hope. Anyway, went on a saturday evening, had about 7 guys who removed their shirt. I chose this muscley zaddy like tanned hunk, his name is Nai. He looks soo much better than on the website. None of the guys were super my type, but it looked that regardless I would enjoy playing with this guy's body. Other guys were not really my type, although I can imaging some people would like. Mamasan showed me menu, only had 1.5h option - room was 1500 baht and minimum tip for boy was 1500 baht. The highest i've seen, although not an issue for me as I usually tip more than 1.5k for 1.5h massage. Wonder if there is 1h option ( there is probably, the website mentions 1h options), wasn't displayed on menu but I've had 1hs before in the past. Room was huge with a large mirror , full length spanning one whole wall of the room. It's right beside the massage bed. So you get to get a good mirrored view of your hunky masseur massaging you. Chatted abit, apparently he said he's worked in Senso for 10 years wow. I think I probably saw him before during my at least 10 visits to senso across the years, But I always chose Tim, my go to masseur ( who has left senso sadly). During the massage I kept turning my head to the right to sneak a peek of the mirrored view of him hehe. He looked so good oiled up with his muscles, thighs/back, yums.. When I turned over, things got reallly hot.. We made out, he licked my nipples/neck and sucked me. He asked if I wanted to be fucked ( honestly, If i was a bottom slut I would totally say yes. He looked like he would fuck me senseless oh man). Anyway I said I don't fuck, and I proceeded to worship his bod.. Licking his nipples/chest/abs/cock. Eventually I came as he deep wet kissed me, with me hugging and carressing his muscley oiled back yumss.. We showered together and oh man.. Writing this made me hard again >.< Paid 1500 at the counter for the room and on the way out, one cutish guy caught my eye. We shall see. 3rd stop - Dreamboys Ok so usually when I try to make a jam pack day like yesterday- it's 2 massages, then sauna for orgy party then bars. The problem is I feel so rushed, as orgy party usually end at 9:45-10pm, usually hard to get a taxi and if I want to go back to the hotel to shower/change, I only reach bars by 11pm ( actually to be honest, missing a few acts is not really a big deal). Either that or I go straight to the bars cum-drenched like ytd ( ok, i mean i shower at the sauna, but still, i still feel cum stained - can't really wash off that well in saunas) and gross after being out the whole day. So anyway I decided to skip orgy party today and head to dreamboys. Of course it was still early at 8pm ish, decided to have dinner at foodlands, it's right opposite dreamboys. I love it as it is 24h, I always go here for supper after clubbing in DJ station/GOD. They have good food too. So walked around the stretch of road with hot male / fresh boys / dream boys and being touted at. The fresh boys poster said had 3 shows - 10pm, 11pm+ and then midnight +. But I decided to go dream boys to have a look anyway. Lots of boys, I think at least 30+ on stage. But not a lot that were my type. At most 3-4 ( including No. 4 that I offed before from jupiter few years back yumss, really considered offing him again) . Shows were okay, lots of drag queens. Can't remember the breakdown of fees but it was 1850baht for 2 drinks for me, boy drink and boy fine. I selected this guy who danced for 2 numbers, he looked dumb ( like in a cute way, you know those guys who look a little not so bright, even though they may be actually smart, but its cute in a way), but had a really good body - chest, abs, muscles. Well, I guess you guys know my type after reading my reports. So called him over for a drink. He held my hand and put my hand on his thigh, and let me feel up his muscles hehe.. He is straight, has a girlfriend, he said " sorry I not gay" but it's fine handsome.. I asked what his short time rate was and I was very surprised when he said 2000. He said everyone is the same. I have not ever paid 2000 for short-time but that's just me, I feel it should be abit more. Anyway I said lets do it and off we went. Stopped at 7-11 for some drinks. Wew, back in bed I started out just admiring his body, his well defined pecs, abs, biceps, felt so good to touch it. I asked if he kissed and he said yes ( yay) and we made out ++. I licked his nipples, kissed his abs, biceps, thighs, and sucked his cock. I love it when a guy is on top of me and I get to kiss him, wrap my legs around his body, feel his muscled back/biceps - my favourite position hehe. Yea, so I came while deep wet kissing him yumss.. He asked If i wanted him to cum and I said yes ( i mean why not), so he wanked while I licked his nipples, carressed his abs/thighs, kissed his neck. It took a while. LOL, like maybe 15 minutes ( at one point i was thinking.. what if he really cannot come. at what point should I say it's ok, just go home LOL), but he finally came ( I mean, carressing him during that 15 minutes was nice as well ). I gave 3000, I think he deserved much more than 2000, idk. Hugged goodnight, and off I went to sleep and ended Day 2 >.<

This could be no more accurate! As I said in another post quite recently, I regard social media as "unsocial media". I have a young Thai friend. He is intelligent, cute, has just graduated from university, speaks reaosnable English and has started his first job. He desperately wants to meet and fall in love with a foreigner. It has nothing (or very little) to do with cash or moving to a foreign country. He just wants the love and companionship of another human being. He happens to be a friend of my partner and we have met up quite often. A few weeks ago he had met a foreigner about whom he was becoming crazy. So the four of us went for dinner one night. This young man hardly spoke to his 'crush' during dinner, spending most of his time texting and staring at his phone. Afterwards, I told him quite firmly that when he was out with a foreigner the mobile phone stayed firmly in his pocket. He also had to learn the basics of starting conversations and making his foreigner friends feel he was at least interested in them - and not only in bed.

Of course, and we should all remember that. But On the other hand, I seen comments here before that “they all know its just a money transaction “ etc, but its hard to separate sometimes. The guys i meet for a longer time (few days out of bar/massage setting), They know im only here for a few days and not coming back anytime soon ( they always ask and i always answer honestly). And so I presume that we both dont expect much other than few days of fun & company and for them business..

As was mentioned the next generation is completely fucked. Social media has warped them in a way that will be hard to repair. As a Thai college professor said in a video I watched earlier today - kids today have no attention spans and little resilience. In Western countries there is a huge epidemic of loneliness. Big percentages have few or no friends in real life. A huge number haven't had sex with another person in over a year. It's not that they don't want to have sex, they're just poorly socialized. All of those sexually frustrated young men (with access to high powered weapons in America) are a big problem. Obviously there are still some places where young people are still boinking (and making lots of babies), but I'd guess that is in places with less access to social media apps and phones. And those places are fewer and fewer all the time

I was just there last month, attached are pictures of the bamboo bridge in question , that' s the one closer to Old City. Yes , admission 10000. Sandal is mine. Full report from Luang Prabang is coming up soon so check this space if you care

Yea, these models mainly go to all the parties. Ive seen roughly the same batch of them everytime i go to the parties whenever i come to bkk, even from few years back. Think 1-2 of them are boys at a bar, and a few of them are in videos online. I would say majority of the crowd are asians, chinese, thai and probably 20s-30s. Think quite alot of thais. I got spoken to in thai like afew times and I have to say I dont speak thai. On the day I went I think probably 2-3 white guys. A few older guys here and there. Well I think even just spectating is well worth the experience and the orgy room eventually is so dark cannot really see much also, so my self conscientiousness disappears haha

Where in the world would you be able to see a sexy live show for only $15? A 500 baht cover or a 500 baht drink with fee admission is not too high. There are costs to putting on these shows.

I was there about 15 years ago and loved it. Despite the many western tourists, it had a tranquility about it and didn't feel overrun or any less authentic. There was an outdoor food stall that sold big bowls of rice and veggies every evening for about 50 cents. The bánh mì sold on the streets was fantastic. A list of tips for tourists posted on the street said giving a donation to the monks during the almsgiving should include at least a bit of a sacrifice to mean something so buying a little bag of cooked rice from the women selling it on the street doesn't count. Instead, I gave one of the monks enough cash to make me think twice about it. I was pretty much broke at the time so it wasn't much. A couple of the women selling rice noticed however and it was like I had stolen that money out of their pockets. They were furious. I should bought some of the rice from them too. It's one of the places I've been to in my life that I remember more than most. Also in Laos, the drunken tube float on the river at Vang Vieng. I gave my wallet and passport to a Canadian woman to carry in her drybag and somehow we found each other at the end. I was going as fast as I could on the tube, and as a good looking young British guy passed me, I told him I was trying to find a Canadian woman with my wallet and he replied, I'm trying to get away from the woman I slept with last night. Ah, straight men, how can their casual cruelty be so hot at the same. A little kid had to help me out of the tube at the end because I was too drunk to do it. He noticed I gave him all of the cash in my wallet and he made me take some back because he knew I would need it for the taxi back to town. What a day that was.

unfortunately neither do patrons. Reason I skip DJ is that once when I saw crowd lining up in such narrow soi i said to myself ' no , if i fell down I will be trampled upon". You don't need fire for that , just misstep

Day 1 Arrived at Suvarnabhumi airport at 11am. Quite busy and lots of people, but queues moved quickly, cleared immigration in about 15 minutes. Change from last I entered, now no longer need to fill up any paper forms. Took Taxi to Le Meridien Hotel in surawong road - my favourite hotel! No issues with bringing guys back and it has a nice view and clean room. 1st stop - Arena I always enjoy the walk from my hotel to Arena ~ 600m ( after feeling lazy and failing to secure 2 taxis to take me to silom plaza.. don't understand english?) . Under the hot sun, anticipating what is in store for me. Silom plaza, a very run down building and I can see some Arena guys on the 3rd floor looking down on me as I walk to the lift.. Took lift to 3rd floor and there were some guys loitering outside. Once they see me they invited me in and went straight back in. Mamasan showed me menu - room for 1h 590, 1.5h 790, minimium tip for boy was 1200 for 1.5h, the rest couldn't rly remember as I wanted a 1.5h massage - usually to settle the sores from flying in. About 15 topless muscleish guys on display, smiling and flexing for me. Felt so shy, but quickly chose a handsome muscleish jock guy called Nuk, with nice tattoos. Massage was okay, but the best part was the body on body massage when he really spammed++ oil on his bod and my back, and we were just grinding on and on, was so hott I could have just came then. When I turned over, he started stroking me and licking and kissing my nipples oh man, I came quickly soon.. Still had some time left after so he gave me a head massage and some other leg massage. Then off I went to shower. Rooms and environment not the best but fitting for the theme I guess, muscle daddies kind of vibe, sweaty/musky/gym vibes. Arena definitely is still up and running and well, and should definitely be visited! On the way out 1 hot masseur said " see you tomorrow, I booking you", haha.. we shall see 2nd stop - Sanctuary Spa I was thinking of heading to Senso, but didn't want to have a massage so fast immediately after Arena's massage ( senso only about 10 min walk). So I decided to head further to Sanctuary Spa instead - hard to find on google map , need to google Sanctuaryspa by A. Otherwise, there's a lot of "sanctuary" massages around. Good thing about sanctuary is their line account is quite active, so you can see all their masseurs and ask for their availability. I texted the line account asking for a particular guy - apparently named Ka. Twinky looking guy with lean abs, at least on the picture. The guy probably had to travel over, as he was only available in an hour. With an hour to kill I thought I would just walk around lumpini park, luckily there was a outdoor bazaar at lumpini park with lots of stalls selling food, random stuff. Bought some ice cream. Also can see bodybuilders training at the park gym. Sanctuary Spa has nice rooms and interior, no line up of boys, so basically liaise through line account before hand. Mamasan didn't show or tell me prices before hand. At end of 1h massage, room was 700 baht. They didn't inform me of minimum tip. Maybe because I went there before? My line account still can see my requests for men and transactions from 2020 when I last visited. Massage was okay, boy was cute but he didnt remove his shirt, perhaps I could have asked. In the end I came early again from just stroking and when he licked my nipples so I couldn't even pull his shirt off haha.. What's with me.. Think I haven't came in too long already, now come so fast.. 3rd stop - R3 sauna It was about 7pm now, deciding between a 3rd massage or R3 sauna. Texted R3 line account and they had a party at 8:30pm. So headed there , 390 baht entrance fee. At 8:30pm, several models who were wearing glowsticks on their wrist showed up, and the show started in the gym, with models sucking each other and fucking around the various gym equipments, several random members were chosen based on locker number to have first dibs. Then after it was free for all. It was so hot, seeing these hot models up close sucking fucking each other on the gym bench press etc, with guests licking and sucking their nipples, sucking and kissing. Then the show moved to this other large room with sofas and mattresses, condoms and lubes all over, guests can enter but must be naked, each were given a condom and pack of lube. Guests mainly flocked around a model, some were fucking the models, some got fucked, others sucking and getting head, kissing, licking nipples it was crazy hott hehe.. I approached this handsome model and started licking his nipples, some other guests came to me and we made out, I made out with a few guys, got my nipples licked and kissed, goy sucked. But not into fucking so I didn't really do that, but everyone around me was. The host was going around shining torchlight on people and encouraging them lol, and giving out poppers... Always find this O party to be an experience, even though I didn't actually came. Last stop - Jupiter Headed slightly late at 10:45pm, I think show supposed to start at 10:30pm, but when I entered show hasnt started yet, the parade of men was undergoing. Jupiter has the most handsome/jockish/well toned lean muscleish guys in my opinion ( of course I haven't been to other bars in a while). So so so many hot guys that I would off. All of them shirtless and in jeans. The shows were okay, most had drag queen in it, but all of it had few hot guys dancing around - mainly centered around these 5-6 guys that took turns performing numbers. One of them which I had off before in my previous reports hehe.. A well toned tanned myanmar boy. During intermission, I was waiting to see if the guy I had offed before was available, but he didn't appear on stage =( Quite a few hot guys didn't have number tags, not sure if they were already offed or not available at all ( which I doubt, i think 1-2 of them are masseurs at another spa I saw on line account). More shows with hints of cock in some numbers. Oh entrance fee is 450baht which includes a drink. At the end of the show at midnight, parade of boys again. This time I saw my boy oh boyy... And he had a number tag! Maybe he didn't parade earlier because he was involved in almost all of the dancing numbers. I quickly told mamasan and secured the boy hehe. Apparently he dosen't remember me lol ( i didn't specifically ask, but he asked if this is my first time in jupiter etc). Ok, I guess maybe he has had a lot of clients, last time we met probably in Jan 2020 or even 2019, can't rly recall. Boy drink + off fine worked up to be 950 baht. Discussed short time rate and off we went. He was straight and single, made small talk and banter on the way to hotel - we both want to get attached by next year, he hasn't celebrated new years in years as that's when the bar is full of customers. In room activities were hot and satisfactory. I told him I liked kissing and we made out a lot, kissing his nipples, abs, muscles, sucking his cock. He came on me and I came shortly after with him deep and wet kissing me.. Oh wow.. And that's the end of my first day back in bangkok, after almost 3 whole years >.< Busy day, got to catch up for 3 years missing in action!

Per his request/permission, last week I highly cmmndd Dara from Jomtien's Home Bar last week thru his grindr nick - 17cm. Fotos below. However,something is wrong with his grindr account, so he asked me to post his cntct info: whatsp: +666 1725 8275 FB name: Dara KH below is my orignal post about him Big17cm on grndr: Dara isnt really 17 cm, but almost there. Biggest dick I've seen these 3 weeks. He works at Home Bar, and solicited me with the standard sums (1500 st, 2500 lt). Was honest to admit that he doesnt like to suck, and not so good at it. When I voiced my rsrvation about this, he answrd: "I might do well to get you hooked with me", which got me hooked to him... (-: When he showed up he looked like his 4 fotos below. He first brushed his teeth very thoroughly; I did likewise. Then followed him into the shower, where he seemed srprsd that I soaped and rinsed him (love to do that). Then said it was 1st time client does this. I asked if it bothers him; he said "no, it's sweet"... (-: Taught him how to reciprocate; we went into full wet oral mode; dried each other; and off to bed, where he really lived up to his promise to "do well". His almost-17 also felt VERY well. We had a rather long chat. His limited English was the best among providers during this trip. We r used to them telling us about their financial difficulties, for ulterior motives. I was therefor srprsd to hear that in 8 months work in J since he came from Cmbdia, he had saved $1000. Sounds astounding to me, but I see no reason for him to lie about this. We parted after 2 hours; I paid him 2500. Dara is the only guy I met twice during this trip. 2nd time was btr than 1st. He dozed off after the pillow talk, with my dick in his hand. Took a while to extract it without walking him up. It was during that talk that I asked him about publishing his details-fotos; he enthusiastically approved. U can find him at Home Bar or THRU THE DETAILS ABOVE

When the World Cup was awared to Qatar back in 2010, few could believe what sort of madness had overtake FIFA. Since then, we have finally had proof about FIFA being the supremely corrupt body we always suspected it was. The World Cup has always been a huge event with matches covering stadia in several cities around the host countries. Tiny Qatar was neither known as a soccer nation not did it have any decent soccer stadia. No probem parrotted FIFA. Qatar had promised to build stadia with special air conditioning systems to counter the horrendous summer heat. As we know, that was never going to work and FIFA did a unique about turn by changing the timing of the tournament to November/December. Then there were Qatar's strict Muslim prohibition against gays, dress for women etc. etc. How much Qatar ended up bribing FIFA officials will probably never be known. We do know that many of those on the bidding committee who voted for Qatar have ben charged with corruption or are in jail. We know, too, that the heads of FIFA had to resign and are also charged with corruption on a large scale. Yet, whatever happened in the past, it does seem to me that holding the World Cup in a new and very small part of the world seems to have been not only effective but hugely effective. Teams and supporters have for the first time not have to fly to different cities between matches. The success of Morocco, despite coming in fourth overall, has been exhilarating, the passion of its army of supporters spreading to others. The last-minute alcohol ban in stadia has been a very big plus with very few arrests. British fans in particular have traditionally seen more than a large amount of loutish and drunken behaviour at all soccer tournaments. At this World Cup it seems their behaviour has been exemplary. That surely is one lesson FIFA must learn for future World Cups. But while the tournament has been a success, FIFA and the Qatar government can and must put some icing on their cake by finally admitting the large number of migrant worker deaths in building the World Cup infrastructure and providing suitable compensation to the familiies. If not, in the fullness of time, it is this disgrace that will forever tarnish the legacy of Qatar 2022.

Erda. You are correct - Chueca Club (Cra. 13 # 83-19). It has a pretty exclusive door policy so they tend to draw in a more moneyed crowd, hence the working boys. Just wear a clean shirt and a fake gringo accent and you are good to go. Or invite me to do all the talking

Some places to consider that may not be on your list: Zona T (south of Parque Virrey) has become the area of choice for many locals who find Chapigay to be over the top. Suggestions include: 1. Moza (formerly El Mozo) - largest gay dance club in the area and very popular with the best looking men in Bogotá (sorry Theatrón). 2. Cuecha Club - another dance club, however this one has a consistent offering of working boys on site. Open Wed - Saturday 3. El Recreo de Adan (Orignal location on Cra 12a sounth of Clle.80) - while not actually a bar, this is a gathering spot to play board games and you can sign up to play with other groups-singles looking for additional players. The food is okay - burgers and sandwiches - but the cocktails and the crowds that gather here keep this bar popular with the locals. Always a fun way to kill a few hours and meet new people. ¡Hasta pronto!

Only here for 4 days so yea , no time to waste 😃

Wow. So the sauna hires models just for the party? What is the rest of the guys like? Mostly young guys who pay the entrance fee to have fun with the models? I don't wanna be the only one who is not desired in this sort of party 😂

The customers are slowly but surely coming back to the bars. Just in time for Christmas and New Year. Quite a diverse range of age, gender and nationalities. I actually like the post-Covid vibe without the loud customers from China.

@Bravo you are like @vinapu You don't waste time during your holidays!

sounds like family Christmas dinner conversations

Iendo, hope ur reports will make this thread / forum much less quiet. I too just left Pattaya, but unlike u - enjoyed it to the tune of 7 rprts. Why didnt u like it?

There is no one behind us replacing us.....When I'm traveling in the US, I rarely see young guys on the apps.....like the quote below shows, they don't know how to socialize and with all the free porn online,,,,,, Researchers have found that Generation Z is less likely to be having regular sex than their parents and grandparents. At least one expert has linked this phenomenon to increasing rates of social isolation in the current “loneliness epidemic.”

Claro que si. ¡Felicidades!

Ahh…no! i have a cuban guy here right now that i really like!’ but i have booked a return trip to Rio and SP in mid March!

I think you mean Chueca, right? Like Madrid's gayborhood?

Haha sigh.. idk.. well its like real life sometimes, chat with guys for awhile and then get ghosted, or after a few dates things become meh and silence from the other guy. Ive done it and been done onto. Cycle of life i guess.. haha he was straight. He probably needed girl porn or pussy

Saturday - Day time was spent early morning shopping at Platinum Plaza to avoid crowds and then heading back to hotel to laze at swimming pool in afternoon. Met and chatted with my new friend at pool to ask him about his off from Hot Male last night. He enjoyed his Cambodian guy very much and he actually said to the guy to meet him at hotel lobby on Saturday morning. However Cambodian guy didn't speak or understand English. My new friend thought that when Cambodian guy nodded his head, it meant yes but unfortunately, when he went to lobby, Cambodian guy didn't come. My new friend waited for half an hour and finally gave up. I explained to my new friend that he should have used Google Translate to confirm the off. But it's alright. He learnt something new. I took afternoon nap after an hour at the pool. Fast forward to evening 8pm. My new friend was all packed and had checked out. We had arranged to meet at lobby for me to say a proper goodbye to him. Interesting gentleman and I really had a good time with him during the past 2 days. After his taxi headed off to airport, I made my way to Thai restaurant along Sala Daeng Road named Somtum Der for dinner with Spoon and surprise, surprise a forum member who has not posted in years - The Divine Madman, the expert on massages in Thailand! It was such a pleasure to meet him and get news on the latest massage shops and of course the massage guys themselves. He was on local Thai telegram channel where the members there rate the massage guys and massage shops. He showed Spoon and me the Telegram channel on his phone and it was filled with thousands of posts and photos! No wonder he has stopped frequenting this forum. After dinner, we parted ways and I pleaded with him to find the spare time to log in again and share his vast knowledge with the rest of us massage like in the old days. My plan for the night was to get the Jupiter guy whom I am infatuated with and was too late to catch him on Wednesday night. As it was early, Spoon and I entered this new bar called Bi-Polar. It's on the second floor of the Silver Silom restaurant. Tickets at 400 baht for 2 drinks. It's a hybrid between a disco and a show bar. There were standing tables where customers can stand around with their drinks and a stage. When we asked what time the show would start, we got the answer, "Soon. 10 minutes." Unfortunately there were only 2 performers - a ladyboy and a male dancer. There were also few customers. Apart from Spoon and I, there was a group of 3 young farang gays and their young farang girlfriend and there was also another group of 4 Korean gay tourists. Spoon and I regretted entering the bar and we finished our drinks before heading off to Jupiter. Soi 4 was packed with people this Saturday night and we had to squeeze our way through. Outside Banana, the former Hotmale bar promoter was there. I passed him a pack of cigarettes and I said I will go his bar another day. Mamasan Lucy was at the door and staring daggers at us! At Jupiter, Spoon and I sat right at the back of the bar where we could lean our backs against the wall. Many of the good seats were taken. I showed mamasan photo on my handphone of the Jupiter guy I was infatuated with. I had taken screenshots of Jupiter videos on Facebook where he appeared and had been admiring the guy's handsome face the past 2 days. Mamasan said he will come to me after the opening catwalk by the Jupiter guys at about 10.30pm. I asked for my bottle of Johnnie Walker from Wednesday night and waiters very efficiently prepared my drink. I had to pay 450 baht for mixer for bottles that are kept in the bar fridge. Spoon commented that Saturday night seemed to have fewer customers than Wednesday night. The moment he said that, the customers started coming in! By 10.30pm, it was totally packed including a group of 7 to 8 young ladies who took the first row and they were cheering on the Jupiter guys when they entered. The Jupiter guys were all smiles when they saw their fans. Some even looked sheepish and embarrassed by the loud attention that is normally reserved for K-pop idols. As promised by mamasan, the Jupiter guy I was infatuated with came to me after the Jupiter guys left the stage and the first performance started. 25 years old. Cambodian. Bi. Spoke good English. Only worked for few months in Jupiter. I knew he was new because I didn't see him back in June. I talked to him about off and he said yes. He quoted 4000 baht for short time and I countered with 3000 baht. He nodded yes and I told him to get changed. I turned to Spoon. Anyone for tonight? No unfortunately. He had massage in afternoon and wasn't in desperate need of a guy tonight. We left Jupiter once Cambodian guy returned and I paid bill for drinks mixer and off fee which was 500 baht. There was still half a bottle of Johnnie Walker left and I asked mamasan to continue keeping. I would go again another night. I was glad that I got Cambodian guy so early otherwise he might be taken by other customers which was what happened on Wednesday night when I first saw him. In fact, he was not the only early off. Spoon and I saw another Jupiter guy, all changed, walking to two customers on our right. Soi 4 was even more packed when Cambodian guy, Spoon and I stepped out of Jupiter. We made our way to Hotmale Beer Bar 1st floor for drinks and chatting. The shows at Freshboys, Dreamboys and Hotmale had all started so there were fewer people in soi Patpong and we could have decent conversation. Alex the bar tender was as usual charming some farang at the bar counter. After we finished our drinks, I took Cambodian guy back to hotel and said bye to Spoon who would be going off to Pattaya tomorrow.

Yea entrance fee is 390 baht. Best to check with R3 on line if there is party that day. Seems like friday and saturday 8:30pm are the parties but it may change. It used to be in sauna mania as well on some days, but now with new sauna like Krubb this week sauna mania didnt have. yes i guess u can do whatever u want >.< within consensuality, some models didnt appear to kiss, some dont bottom. But yeah. A massive orgy basically *oh in the past i recall age discrimination where entry was significantly higher for older guys - at sauna mania, but i couldnt recall if they still do that. A quick check on their r3 website dosent appear so. There were at least a couple of older guys when i visited

Had a repeat session with Q from dream boys. 2k what's app hook up. Then went out. Not experienced at massage, you advice of (?). And got a foot leg head shoulder at green massage on surawong rd because the men looked good. Feel in love with my perfect handsome strong Myanmar man Moe. Got his what's app. Now to figure out how to get him.... Nice shop, good looking men. Will try the full package.

And strangers.....😝 I've heard so many conversations over the years between customers and MB's, myself included. So ridiculous and repetitive over time, Like the movie Groundhog Day. I know many will say and feel like they have serious, meaningful conversations and are different.....maybe 1-2% are....the rest are one way conversations.

I read the paragraph too quick....I thought you were talking about Andy and Spoon here....😝

I'm luckier , had those with both our members and money boys as well

Great conversations isn't even on the list of things I remember or like about Thailand.....not with money boys anyway.

From Atlas Obscura Luang Prabang was named a UNESCO world heritage site for its well-preserved French colonial architecture, but its true charms spring from the Lao culture. The streets are filled with Saffron-robed monks, local handicrafts, Buddhist temples, and hawker stalls selling river fish and sticky rice. Visitors flock to the old town’s famous Sai Bat almsgiving—a daily tradition unbroken for hundreds of years, but those who go wandering after the ceremony might discover a new tradition a short walk away—the seasonal bamboo bridges across the Nam Khan River. The Nam Khan winds through Luang Prabang before joining the wide Mekong, and during the rainy season residents and visitors use shuttle boats or the Old French Bridge to cross the swollen river. But when the dry season comes along, quicker and more charming options arise—two narrow bamboo bridges. In 2006, a local family erected the twin bridges for the first time and they’ve kept the practice going every November since. Although the bridges are designed primarily for tourist use, the construction is very traditional. Each bridge is made entirely of bamboo and rope (except for the lights), and though they might look (and feel) wobbly, they’re actually quite strong. They rely on bamboo’s natural strength and building techniques employed by Laos for generations. The bridges span the Nam Kahn until rainy season, when they are dismantled until the next year. The larger bridge, set at the picturesque bend of the Nam Khan just as it reaches the Mekong, connects Luang Prabang with two villages noted for their artisans—the weaver’s village of Ban Xieng Lek and the paper-making village of Ban Xiang Khong. The smaller bridge is slightly upstream and connects the old city to the newer side of town, as well as to restaurants and craft shops overlooking the river. This side arguably has the best view; visitors who take the bridge to the Dyen Sabai restaurant at sunset are in for a beautiful view of the fleeting bamboo structure. The larger bridge can be found at the bottom of the path starting below the Riverpoint Cafe on Khem Khong road. The smaller bridge extends from the old steps leading down from Wat Siphoutthabath on Kingkitsarath Road. Make sure you check with a hotel or tour guide if planning a visit to include the bridges; their presence follows the whims of the river. Note that traversing the bridges is not free. Tickets are sold at small booths on the old town side of each bridge. Passage costs 10,000 Kip (about sixty cents U.S.) for a round trip ticket. It’s a pittance well-spent — the money goes to the families who build and maintain the bridges. https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/bamboo-bridges-of-luang-prabang

you did excellent job catching up as well as writing this report

I visited Luang Prabang before the bridges were built. It is a glorious town (it seems too small to be a city) and well worth a visit. Just walking around there seemed to be quite a few gay guys when I was there. Sitting by the river late one afternoon, a cute young guy wandered over to my table and said his equally cute young friend fancied me! Sadly I was leaving for Bangkok in 30 minutes.

Excellent to start your holiday and well-written! Bravo!

It's not parties that are the issue; it is parties that impinge on the rights of other people, parties which entertain a small minority and screw-up the evenings and nights of others. Sorry to sell The Good Old Days, yet again, but decades ago when go go bars operated until the last customer left, noise wasn't an issue because the d**n places had doors. And walls. This was one of the reasons why I objected to the BT aural pollution; the guilty bars were the biggest in the soi and could easily have accommodated the party-goers within their buildings. JC is different. Noise cannot be contained by more than two or three businesses. And so it behoves the owners to behave in an appropriate manner, one which allows punters to talk with guys and each other.

In such a case one hopes it won't be some future Putin who will try incorporate Pattaya into Mother Russia claiming Russian minority is oppressed in Pattaya

I feel like it's not a trip to Bangkok without going to one. I'm sure I will always drop by at least one every time I'm in town if for no other reason than for old time's sake. And I miss Screw Boys!

Dreamboy charge 500 baht for a drink, off is also 500. Freshboy 400 a drink and 500 the off also I believe. Hot male same... Surely these charges will deter some customers?!

Arrived yesterday afternoom in Bangkok and managed a massage at Arena, a reminiscent visit to Super A and a night at Freshboys. Arena had around 12 muscular options but my favourite Tip had long moved back to Isaan - current alternatives offer more than adequate choices. Ps the escalators work and the seafood places on street level are worth a look. Super A had about 8 boys who are up to the usual Super A standard. Of note 3 of the former staff are still there - has to be more than 8 years!!! Freshboys had at least 20 boys decked out in white boxer style shorts. Lots of Vietnamese choices. Bar was 3/4 full most of the night with male and female customers. Shows were okay - not a big fan of lipsyncing cabaret but boy shower scene/ big cock parade were more than appealing. One thing about Freshboys the lads are very eager - lots of offers lots of enticing glances and smiles, lots of thank yous. One lad put my hand down inside his front to advertise his wares and asked "you take?". PS also walked inside world heritage listed venue and managed to overhear " what you like? I can get for you . You want boy? girl ? ladyboy? or 2? . not a problem"

I think it's possible, all boils to negotiating. Longer time , lower per day fee may be. It may also depend on who initiated idea , if it was boy , we are in better negotiating position

So, I am shaking things up a bit. I have my regular 2 lads for the three-way and I have added one versatile guy from Hornet for this upcoming weekend. It might be fun (or a disaster), but worth a try.

Well.. very predictable, the english speaking troll is back as already said avoid english it attracts clingy people.

Right. Not in your league. I don’t have your tips for Walt disney world resort. The way you list your travels as if they were trophies is pitiful. I will not insult you by listing my travels.

Tiago has been living in Thailand for a number of weeks now, so everything still feels new. But he says that cost of living is lower, and food, transportation and entertainment is cheaper. Plus things that have to do with his work - gear, gym time etc, are cheaper. He can also get compensation with teaching Jiu Jitsu in Thailand teaching either tourists of locals that he says is more than what he can get in Brazil, probably because there are fewer of him in Thailand with his set of skills so he is more in demand. He is already looking at staying longer than his planned 6 months and looking at his visa options. So yeah he likes it in Thailand better but he is looking at it through the lens of someone working. My take is complicated (always). I have my own preferences that may be different than yours. Sex - @floridarobhas alluded to this. I've had sex with duds in Brazil so that exists, but I found that a Brazilian's average minimum effort is still much more passionate and more to my liking than what I get in Thai. I get that in Thailand too, but I am more assured that the sex will be more passionate and I am left satisfied, sex-wise. Depends on the situation of course. Cost to hire - It's just cheaper in Brazil. No escaping that fact. I'd say basic short time fee in Brazil is $30 vs $40 in Thailand, and you get more for your money. Grindr - I've had way more luck in Brazil, but my Generic Asian Face™ is more of a novelty there relative to Thailand. Gay saunas (not for pay) - Brazil saunas are hotter and wilder Food - Thailand is way superior to that of Brazil, in my book. Food is also way cheaper in Thailand. Tourist Infrastructure - Thailand is more developed hands down. There is a reason Bangkok has toppled Paris as the most visited city in the world in 2019. Just the ease in which you get basic stuff like SIM cards (airport in Bangkok with clear pricing and GB vs not as easy in Brazil), taxis and hotel staff with English speaking drivers, the Tourist police etc., is superior than what you will find in Brazil. I've said before that Brazil has a steeper learning curve, though if you have a patience to see it through, it's hard to let go. Thailand was just love at first sight for me. One night in Silom and I was hooked forever. Safety - Advantage: Thailand. No way out of this. But I must say that if you know what you're doing, its fairly easy to keep safe in Brazil as well, as I have after a million trips to there. But yes, advantage: Thailand Shopping - Slight advantage to Thailand. Lots of cheap finds in both places but I think Thailand has better variety (MBK and Chatuchak are gold standards). Massage - Huge advantage to Thailand. Not even a question. Beaches - Beaches in Thailand are prettier and better, but Brazil's are more fun and more lively so, depends on what you like. Rio's Copacabana and Ipanema are obvious strengths, with Bangkok not having a comparable analog, but Phuket and Samui are stunning places to visit once you get there. Festivals - toss up. Songkran is fun, Carnaval is fun. It's all fun. Nightlife - both have their advantages, boils down to what you prefer or are looking for. Language - For me, Portuguese is way easier for me to learn, i.e. I learned it vs I will probably never learn to speak Thai because English is widely spoken in Thailand. There is some utility to learning the language in any country as you get to know it in a much deeper level. Even if Thais more or less speak English, I suspect I missing something by not speaking Thai. My 2¢. I love both. Will continue visiting both. Will account for the shortcomings and enjoy the strengths of either place. It's good to have these two wonderful options to choose from!

Day 2.5: Heavenly Bodies I am unclear on the origins of why Bangkok boy bars are named the way they are. Maybe the thought process is to have your bar name be as descriptive as possible, so customers know what they are getting when they want to go to that bar. So all your boys and males are either Fresh (boys), Hot (Male), Dream (y) (Boys) or Lucky (Boys), or you may want to Screw (boys) them, or want to play with their Bananas (bar). Then there are the bars that are named after heavenly bodies or phenomenon – Moonlight, Jupiter and Tawan (Tawan ตะวัน = Sun). These bars, more or less, have their specialized brand of boy bar, probably what sets them a little bit apart from the ones mentioned previously. I’d say these three bars indeed have “heavenly bodies”, and as such, have boys with more mass i.e. more meat on their bones than those bars that have predominantly twinks in them (those Freshboys really are fresh, for example). This is a generalization of course, Dreamboy had a lot of more meatier boys than twinks the night I was there (at least my definition of what Thailand meaty is), but generally you will not find any traditional twinks in the Solar System bars. Don't ask me about New Twilight. I don't know how that boy bar fits into things. Interestingly, to me at least, Tawan’s naming is more consistent with how most Brazil boy saunas are named. Tawan’s street is situated in Soi Than Tawan, from which I am assuming Tawan was then named after. In Rio de Janeiro for example, Clube 117 and Pointe 202 addresses are in 117 Rua Candido Mendes and 202 Siquiera Campos respectively, which means they are named after their street addresses as well. Various other saunas in Brazil do this (the ones in Salvador and Recife come to mind, etc.), and even if the name of the current street of the famous Sao Paulo sauna Lagoa is different from its name, originally it was located in a street called Borges Lagoa before its move to 130 Pedro Taques. So we find ourselves in one of the Solar System bars – Jupiter. My description of it in 2016 is here: Still, I do remember at least two memorable offs from Jupiter in the past. Both were the typical Jupiter type: tall, muscular athletic, fair skin and handsome. Both I’ve had trepidation offing in the past due to my preconceived assumptions about the aloofness of the Jupiter boys, and hence, both exceeded my expectation when it came to the off, further fueling my desire to go back to the heavens more and more. My whole off with MuscleBoy here: And a snippet of my off with Korean Boy: --- We emerge from a sex-induced slumber at 9:30 PM, after a half day of running around Bangkok and seeing the sights. Tiago, as goal-oriented as he was when it comes to going after his dreams, surely knows what he likes doing during vacations: lots of rest and lots of sex. He admitted to as such while we were traversing Dubai. As a result, we have missed a tourist spot or two that was on my list of must-see things to see. Still, my method of running ragged of wanting to see as many things as possible and to sleep with as many boys as possible, combined with his more leisurely pace of stopping and smelling the roses, and establishing deeper connections and sacrificing certain opportunities as a result, worked for both of us and benefitted our experiences. Quality over quantity was essentially the result. Still, he knew that it was important for me to go see a Boy Bar every night we were in Bangkok, so when the alarm went off to wake us up that night, he darted out of the bed and did a few shadow boxing exercises to wake himself up and get the blood flowing. I fired up the water heater and made two cups of those delish 3-in-1 coffees, and pair of showers later we were on a Grab to Silom Soi 4. 71 baht. We arrive at Soi 4 around 10:15 PM, and the familiar sights of the street were still there. I noticed a new (to me) boy bar called Banana Bar, with their tout enticing us to come in and partake of their fruit stand. Perhaps on another night. We passed by the usual bars, notably the renamed Circus Bar, formerly Telephone Pub – I am not too familiar what precipitated this name change. There was a good-sized crowd seated in almost all the bars, with a good showering of farang tourists, perhaps a sign that the tourist numbers are rebounding at a good clip. But we had our goal today – Jupiter. We were greeted by the sharply dressed tout who didn’t bother with his spiel because it looked like we knew where we were going. Inside, the outer seats were taken, some full with rowdy Thai revelers, others with more reserved farangs and Asian gays. We were seated at the very front. Tiago plopped himself on the seat, ready for the show. Regular coke and rum coke (pretty decent). Onstage where 3 or 4 boys at a time, rotating through their roster, a trick I’ve seen in almost all the bars that had more boys than a stage can logically contain. I am reminded right away of Jupiter delights: the preppy, handsome, clean cut, masculine fair boy. Tiago noticed this, and commented that the offerings were pretty enticing, and handsome. Perhaps Tiago was also a Jupiter man. I was overjoyed when I say MuscleBoy and Korean Boy still working here, as if nothing has changed through the years. They both still looked gorgeous and fit. There were other stunners as well, well-documented in the Jupiter facebook. They feature each of their models fairly well on FB, and some even have studio-quality photoshoots that highlights their best features. What impressed me was the number of guys that were on offer. If you want an idea of many guys are available on a given night, watch this: ParadeJupiter.mp4 Also, this was were I was seated, where the red dot is: So I was up close and bulge level to these fine specimens, so I was having a blast. I would highly recommend seating up there for maximum viewing. Not sure why the other customers here preferred sitting further away from the action. They are missing out. The show soon starts and it’s the usual drag queen/boy number combination. The drag queens were pretty polished, moreso than what I’ve seen elsewhere in Thailand, or even Brazil. Also, there were numbers with drag queens and boys combined, and I remember this was a thing before from pre-pandemic: With all this happening, Tiago was seemingly entertained. My hunches about this bar were right, that this was a bar that is easy to show to first-timers, or your girl best friend, that had enough distractions and hot boys to entertain pretty much anybody. I know a lot of us here prefer a less refined, more hardcore experience with Thai boy bars, and I do miss that type of atmosphere, but there is a place for these kind of bars both in the boy bar landscape, and in every one of my travel itineraries. There was the question of offing tough. I was thoroughly smitten with one of the guys in that clip above. Everyone in the bar was looking at him. Maybe it was the grinding and the dancing he did. I was about to look for him but saw that he sat down with some clients and I missed my chance. Still, there were a lot to choose from. I could choose from any number of tall, fair, lean muscular boys. There was something about that guy with the full body tattoo (see video). He looks like he would know a thing or two about a good time. Plus, in perusing Jupiter’s FB posts, he is figured in a set of photos that seem to show another, more fun side of him: I ask Tiago what he thought about that guy. He said he was more interested in another handsome lad, as he tells me his number. I recognized the guy from Patpong. He must’ve belonged to another bar but is now working in Jupiter. He was the Jupiter type. He had really white skin, very smooth. Boyish handsomeness, abs and muscles. He fit the type that I liked, so I motioned to him to sit with us once the show was over. He was in jeans and shirtless. He sat in between Tiago and I. A waiter quickly comes to us to ask if the boy wanted a drink. He asked for a coke. He recognized me from the pre-pandemic days, and asked me the usual stock questions of name, where you from, how long Bangkok and all that good stuff. I of course had to translate for Tiago, who was rubbing his leg and looking at him closely. He was Vietnamese, and Tiago found that fairly interesting possibly because it was the first time he has ever met a Viet guy. After a few more pleasantries, VietBoy asks if we wanted to off him. I then asked what he was into. He said he is all top. I translated this to Tiago and then he promptly grabbed his dick to see. More questions. 5000 for short time because we were two people, so double the price he said. Then I asked if he kisses. He said no. He said he was straight. I then translate this all to Tiago. “E hetero?” he said, sort of disappointed. “Quanto custa,” he asks. I do some quick math and tell him “130 dolares ou 700 reais,” I answer. Tiago makes a face, ”E caro demais,” he replies, thinking the price was a little bit too steep. He then asks me that its up to me, but I already knew my answer. After a few more pleasantries, and as he finshes his drink, I gave him 500 baht and bid him farewell. It was just not meant to be. To Tiago, a sexual partner who doesn’t kiss, let alone doesn't do it passionately, is not worth it, and life is too short for that kind of BS. I tend to agree. He later said that for 130 dollars, he’d do way more than just top. While all of this was going on, Jupiter turned from a Boy Bar to a lounge, and it was actually enjoyable. Customers were having a blast with the live singing, boys were joining the fun, drinking with customers, and it all looked like fun: Jupiter2018 - Everyday After Midnight It’s Time To Party 🎉... By Jupiter2018 Everyday After Midnight It’s Time To Party 🎉 With All The Jupiter’s Model 🤩 #jupiter #silom4 #bangkok.mp4 There is someone in the video clip waving some money in front of the boys. I figure that the video is at least accurate in that sense, as it will take that much money to get the boys to act happy to be with you. I didn’t even try to look for another boy to off. I tried, it didn’t work out, and that was that. I didn’t even feel that I was missing out. I had good memories of this place, and will continue to make more in the future. Right now it was about me and Tiago. He might be the ultimate cock block as he is giving me more than probably any of the boys in this building ever could, in arguably better physical attributes, among other things. There is a time and a place to “settle” for a more chill sexual encounter and I am willing to adjust to the task at hand. Sometimes that it was I need, other times, like right now, it is Quality over Quantity. After another round of drinks, we leave the celestial confines of Jupiter. While it weird for me to not off a guy form this bar, truth is Jupiter will always hold a special place in my groin. There will be other nights in Jupiter, to look for this guy, for example: We then head over to Footland Patpong to have a late dinner. After that we decide to make that 25-minute walk back to the apartment, since it has cooled down a bit. Tiago asked again if it was safe to walk at 2 AM in the morning in Bangkok. I said yes it was. He commented that if this was central Rio we would be assaulted many times over. i laughed, because it was true. And even Tiago had a hard time avoiding comparing Brazil to Thailand, but this time, he was noticing something that Thailand had an advantage over Brazil. “That’s why we are here Tiago,” I tell him. “We are here to forget about our troubles in Brazil. We are in Thailand now.” We should make the most of our time here, as Thailand has a lot to offer. And we do just that, next post.

Day 2: Same same, but different Just a quick note on threeways in Thailand, and my inevitable comparison to those I've had in Brazil. In general, I usually don’t plan on particularly having threeways. I’ve always preferred the classic one-on-one, as it takes away certain wildcards out of the equation. But threeways are fun when they do happen, even if they come out a bit awkward if one or two people in the threesome are left a little less satisfied. There is always the danger of becoming the third wheel, with either having two participants in the threesome who seem to be enjoying each other more than the third person, or if you’re the only one enjoying the action and the other two are just going through the motions to satisfy you. I’m guessing the latter more has to do with clients getting two boys who may or may not click with each other or with you, but since money is in the equation, one tends to overlook certain misgivings. You can probably guess where I'm going with this, that even with the few threesomes I’ve had, on average, I’ve had more satisfying threeways in Brazil than in Thailand. Maybe it’s cultural, that South Americans bring in the heat way more often than their Asian counterparts, but anecdotally anyway, that’s been my experience. Take that as you will. I’m never going to say that Brazilians are better than the Thai, in bed. That simply is not true. What’s true is that the boy (or boys) in your bed at the moment is going to be always better than anyone else who is not in your bed, and you should make the most of any situation. I actually first met Tiago in a threeway situation. Last year, at a start of a Rio trip, I was met at the airport by a working boy I’ve known for a few months, and he told me that he was bringing a friend with him who he said was interested in meeting me, who turned out to be Tiago. After dinner, and then a shower back at the apartment in Copacabana, this working boy proceeded to start kissing me and taking off my clothes to initiate sex. He then asks me to kiss Tiago. Tiago was tentative at that point, since he is not used to this kind of setup (plus he just met me), but warmed up to me eventually. The resulting threesome was pretty good, but it turned out that the working boy was just using me to get to Tiago, who he had the hots for and couldn’t just hook up with him because theirs' was not that kind of friendship. Tiago mentioned this to me a few months after the encounter, after I’ve had a falling out with said boy. It didn’t matter to me at the time. I had two hot Brazilians in my bed no later than an hour after I arrived from the airport. That’s a win, and I sure made the most of it. So the threeway with MonBoy and Tiago was still fun, despite MonBoy’s apparent awkwardness in the situation. As long as I've known him, MonBoy was always eager to please, and our history through the years has shown that. The one threesome I had with MonBoy and another Burmese boy turned out pretty good. I’ll make sure I get MonBoy all to myself the next time we meet. I am actually looking forward to that. --- MonBoy wakes me up at 6:30 AM to tell me that he is leaving to take the BTS. As he puts on his clothes, I fish out 4000 baht from my wallet. I figure since he was technically offed by two people, not just me, then he deserves that double pay. He takes the money and pockets it, not counting it. He gives me a peck on the cheek as he always does, exits the apartment, and disappears into the early morning. I get back to bed. Tiago rolls over to spoon. “Everything ok with him?” Tiago asks. “I think so,” I answer, a bit tentatively. We both fall back to sleep. We wake up around 12:30 PM. We intended today to be a lazy day, a chance to catch up on rest and help get over jet lag, which was a little bit less painful this time since it was only a 3-hour adjustment from where we were. I go to the kitchen to try to make some coffee and could not find the coffee maker. I did find these ubiquitous 3-in-1 coffee packs that I forgot was more of a thing in this part of the world. The apartment owner left a generous care package of 3-in-1 coffees, instant noodles and some granola bars, which is perfect for moments when you need something fast to consume. So today, our first daytime in Bangkok, since Tiago is going to stay for at least half a year in Thailand, I was keen on showing Tiago around Bangkok, having him get used to how Thailand works, and also get used to the sights, the people, and other relevant things. I am not an expert though, I am just a humble tourist, but at least Tiago will not be starting from scratch with his Thailand knowledge when he sets out on his own next week. He of course has his fellow Brazilians to lean on that are part of his Muay Thai gym as well. But they don't know what Numazu knows. 1. Money Looks like I visited at the right time, as the dollar is pretty strong at the moment, compared to the Thai Baht (and pulled even with the Euro!). The rate has hovered around less than 0.03 baht to the dollar. Using my Charles Schwab ATM, which refunds the ATM fees at the end of the month whenever it is charged, I’ve consistently got a ~0.0283 baht to the dollar baht during this one week stay in Thailand. That meant when withdrawing 20,000 Baht + 250 baht ATM fee, my bank takes out $573. Which is an improvement to my standard brain shorthand conversion rate of 3000 baht for every $100. Brain Shorthand Conversion Rate: What I use when I’m calculating baht prices in my head, whenever I am out shopping or mongering. My brain math will always think that the standard Short Time rate of 2000 baht is 66 dollars. When in reality, $66 is actually 2332 baht. That’s 332 baht extra, almost enough to cover the entry fee/welcome drink at boy bars. That has been my point of reference even since I've been going to Thailand. I’ll be in trouble if the conversion rate ever creeps over 0.033. I think ever since I’ve been going to Thailand since 2014, the only other time that the dollar was stronger against the baht than it is now was in Christmas season of 2015. So life is pretty good right now, except if you were in Thailand Jan 30, 1998, where a 2000 baht short time fee was only $38. Granted, the short time fee back then was even less than 2000, so those of you who were there during that time, hope you made the most your time! Does anybody remember how much the ST fee was in 1998? Tiago has been saving his money to be able to devote to his Muay Thai training for 6 months in Thailand, as well as his accommodations, which was a room (no AC, just a fan) in the same building as the gym. While he has not saved up to cover all of expenses – like meals and transportation, he saved enough for some of his gym time and everything else related to his profession. The rest he hopes to earn through his fights. I told him he could try his hand (and penis) on escorting, but he said he hopes it doesn’t come to that, and his fellow Brazilians have been able to make it work without having to resort to that. So he took all of his savings with him from Brazil to Thailand. And instead of using a money changer in Sao Paulo to convert the Brazilian Reals to US Dollars, so he can then use those dollars to change to Baht with a money changer in Bangkok, which as you can see is double the fees, he will just gave me all the Reais that he had, and I will just take the money from the ATM to give him the equivalent Thai baht. Never fear, I’m always in Brazil, so those Reais he gave me will be put to good use. Unfortunately for Tiago, the Reais to Baht rate has not had the same trajectory as the dollar, and lost some value since 2017. Nevertheless, he is still saving money exchanging banknotes with me, than if through those money changers: 2. Transportation It was important for me to get an AirBNB with a washer and dryer, two bathrooms, two bedrooms, and some basic kitchen stuff, for this trip. Like I said earlier, after 2 weeks and half living in hotels with Tiago, it was nice to have the extra space, and the homelier facilities, to be able to stretch out more. And the extra privacy is nice, not because of modesty, as Tiago and I pretty much have no boundaries at this point, but because maybe I’d need some alone time with a boy and did not want Tiago to feel out of place or left out in the apartment, and he’d have another room in the house to occupy. Also, having a separate bedroom to house for our suitcases and valuables, devotes the other bedroom just for sleeping and sex, which is great both in a compartmentalization aspect and logistical aspect with hiring boys and having personal valuables isolated in a separate room. But having this perfect oasis meant picking an AirBNB a little bit further away from Patpong. The apartment I chose was still in the Silom area, but was a 25 minute walk to Patpong. However, GrabTaxi is easy enough to get, and is just a 65 baht ride away ($1.83), but today I decide to take the BTS with Tiago to show him where it was, how to buy fare, how much money it costs, how to use Google Maps to know what station to look for to get to your destination, etc. We use the BTS that was closest to the AirBNB to get to Siam Paragon, the glitzy shopping center to eat some lunch and window shop. Stock photo: Granted, Tiago is going to stay at a city that is not Bangkok (I choose to keep this unmentioned for reasons mentioned earlier), and will not have a BTS/MRT system to lean on, but nevertheless its good to know what is out there (I also talked to him about Tuktuks, Baht Buses, and regular buses). In reality though, Tiago is going to rent a motorbike during his 6-month stay for 1500 baht a month, which is roughly $45. Seems pretty cheap to me, but Tiago says that that’s what his Brazilian colleagues have been doing. 3. Food One of the main draws, if not the number one draw, of Thailand for me is the delicious food. I would like to think that I am pretty adventurous when it comes to my food choices, and for some reason Thailand that has that variety and balance that I look for when it comes to cuisine. So for lunch, we go to Taling Pling at Siam Paragon, which seems to be a staple for me everytime I find myself in Thailand. I of course order the Tom Yum soup with shrimp. I can’t get enough of that. Ordering for Tiago was a different matter. Like I said, the Brazilians aren’t particularly fond of spicy food, so his options are limited. The options in Thailand are still plentiful though, so the shrimp fried rice, soft shell crab, and Thai omelette that I picked for him was a winner. He ate all of that and wanted more. Tiago has mentioned his gym will serve regular Brazilian food everyday for 50 baht a meal, or $1.4 dollars. Pretty cheap again, but they are a group there so they can save up. After window shopping, and finding some items at Uniqlo, we head over to Siam Square to eat dessert at After You Dessert Café. BurBoy (remember him?) introduced me to this decadent café, and no Bangkok trip of mine can be complete without trying one of their Kakigoris (shaved ice dessert): It was sweet, not spicy, so Tiago devoured it all. Closing footnote: I find most of Bangkok unchanged this side of the pandemic. Everything felt the same, the same things were still at the same places. My usual haunts before the pandemic were still there. The traffic was still atrocious. The BTS still filled up during peak hours. The only thing that stood out was the mask wearing, which was understandable. It's kind of hard to wear a mask when you’re sweating in the heat and humidity, but it sure beats the alternative. With the removal of the Thai Pass requirement to enter Thailand, I’d say that Thailand is truly back, and I am very happy about that. There is some sadness though. Apart from the loss of lives due to the disease of course, it is sad to see some businesses have remained closed, sometimes it looks like for good, and that is more than likely is due to the pandemic rendering certain business unable to sustain themselves through the hard times. Screw Boy? Lucky Boys? All still closed. Don’t they know I'm back? And probably the saddest of all, Oasis Restaurant, with @vinapu's Award Winning Chicken and Cashew Nuts ™, is still closed, and looks like in disrepair: Next, a boy bar for a Monday Night. This next one should be obvious given my taste.

Day 1.5: Just like riding a bike So we slingshotted from the muggy streets of JBR Beach in Dubai at 3 AM, to the damp streets of Silom in Bangkok at 12 midnight, in under just 13 hours, we really didn’t have any time to stop and smell the roses. Until now. We wandered our way from Moonlight to Patpong, where the cluster of boy bars resided. Not many people were still out and about, and I wasn't sure if it was because it's already 12 midnight on a Sunday, or it just rained, or because of the lingering pandemic, or all of the above. I was expecting the usual throng of people milling about, and street vendors hawking food and souvenirs, and massage therapists enticing you with their brand of relaxation, and with all the smells and the heat that is in this part of the world, made a heady mixture in the air that can make you delirious and keep wanting more. Instead it was almost solemn, peaceful, sleepy. Not dead, or empty, just tranquil and serene. We walked, without urgency, only purpose, to Patpong. Tiago held my hand, as he has been accustomed to do in Brazil, and as he was forbidden to do in the Middle East. “This is fine, right?” he asks me, as he squeezes the hand he was holding. I assured him it was. We were in Bangkok after all. And not just any place, we were in Silom. This place is legendary. You just had to see it to believe it existed. No Bangkok guidebook or Tripadvisor review or Instagram post can capture its true essence. You only had to hear about it, to know it’s worth visiting. And once you do, there’s no way you want to leave. Well, ok, that was the Silom of old. The Silom of right now was kind of a sleepy place, at least at this hour. As we make our way into Patpong 2, Tiago notices a bar that advertised Muay Thai fights on its street sign. It was the Pink Panther. “Are there fights here?” he asked, interested in seeing something that is in his line of work. I’ve never been, but I answered that “I think there are, but this place is mostly a girlie joint.” Tiago then asks “And we are not doing any girl stuff this trip right?” I laugh. I know that these bisexual Brazilians will fuck anything in sight, but I tell him “Maybe, if you’re good,” just to tease him. You have to admit, that Patpong 2 is a poor substitute for Soi Twilight. Yes, thank goodness that a lot of the refugee bars from Soi Twilight found a home on Patpong 2, but the Soi is bookended by girlie bars, and the UNESCO World Heritage Site Foodland ™ was smack dab in the middle of all the action. Gone are the days that most of the gay bars were concentrated in a focused strip of a street, with touts manhandling you to compete for your attention as you make your way through the Soi. A bit of that still happens, but it's just not the same. Perhaps, it is just following a world trend that has done away with gay neighborhoods, and welcoming a more integrated world. We are the victims of our own success. We demanded for visibility and equality, and once we've achieved it, we became just like everyone else, sandwiched between girlie bars. Probably outdated, still interesting, from bangkokeyes.com The tout of Fresh Boys was the first to greet us, trying very hard for us to get to go enter the bar. “No thank you,” was my answer, even with the tout promising that the boys were fresher here than anywhere else on the Soi. I dragged Tiago away from the tout to get to the nexus of Dream Boy and Hot Male. And before their respective touts had a chance to plead their cases, a boyish voice suddenly shouts “Numazu, what the hell are you doing here?” And the voice used my real name too. Tiago asks, “How does he know your name?” I answer “The same reason everyone in Sao Paulo knows my name." Let's call him HM, the bar boy extraordinaire of Hot Male, who shouted out that sentence alerting boys in even as far as Jupiter (the bar? the planet? your call) that Numazu has arrived. He runs over to hug me. I introduce Tiago, who then hugs HM in return. “Your boyfriend?” HM asks, of course. “Yes,” and I fill him in the details of our trip. He then fills me in about the scene, what he has been doing, and regaled me with stories of mutual friends, and heartaches, that I have been witness to in the past. It was like catching up with an old friend. And he truly was an old friend. A sexy old friend. Tiago, meanwhile, was getting some attention from the tout of Hot Male, who was enticing him to go up to see some hot males to his bar. “I don’t know what he wants me to do,” he tells me, not understanding Thai accented English. “He was asking you if we wanted to go upstairs to another boy bar. He asked me if I wanted to. I said sure, why not, since we are here. I bid adieu to the town crier and headed up over to Hot Male. There was still a lot of people inside Hot Male even if it was after the show. About 4 groups of people, with a variety of boys sprinkled in there. As we get settled in our seats, and get our drink order (water and rum coke – weak af), I see that there were 5 guys onstage with their dicks hanging out on full display. I’d say that they were all nice looking, so it was pleasant sight to see. Tiago of course, asked about this display of dicks, so I give him a rundown of what I usually see in a boy bar. He then asks about HM, how I know him, where he was from, and asked me if HM's English was fluent. I said it was, and its fairly advanced compared to the average working boy, and it is better than even (Tiago's) English. He asked how this was possible, since he was having a hard time getting to that level of fluency. I told him that HM probably learned the most from all the farangs he has met through the years, just practicing with them, not afraid to make mistakes and open in being corrected, etc. Tiago said that he took classes in Brazil but still struggles. Hot Male didn’t have a lot of boys in the bar, but the ones they had were a pretty nice selection. I could see offing almost everyone in the bar at this moment, but we already had that pending off. One stand out for me was this guy. Amazing body and cute face. Could be fun: I get a text from MonBoy saying he was wrapping up and asked me where we could meet him. Told him we will wait for him on Patpong 2. And then one by one, people at Hot Male got up and left. We pay for our two drinks, and descend back to street level. After a few minutes of banter with HM, MonBoy shows up. HM does a double take, and then greets him, in Burmese, Thai? Of course HM knows him, and knows him being with me in the past. He bids all of us farewell as he helps close down his bar. I order a Grab Taxi, and soon the three of us are bunched in together in the back seat. I was in the middle. Tiago rests put his hand on my thigh as he looks out at the scenery. MonBoy held my hand and rested his head on my shoulder. We get home, and Tiago immediately takes off his shirt, as it was hot. MonBoy suddenly gets bashful. He sits on the couch, saying nothing, while Tiago and I get comfortable at home. I sense MonBoy’s sudden shyness and ask him if he wanted to shower. He said he just showered so he was fine. Tiago, eager for a shower, strips naked as the day he was born, and heads for the shower in the guest bedroom. MonBoy laughs, perhaps not used to such immodest manner from clients. “Why don’t we shower together?” I ask him. OK he said. He takes off his shirt, and takes the rest of his clothes in the free bathroom. I join him, stark naked. I have known every angle of every nook and every cranny of MonBoy’s body. I was eager to see how it feels after almost 3 years of not seeing him. There, in the shower, I see that he has not changed much. He still has that bronze skin that was smooth as silk. His torso was a leaner than before, still athletic, still fit as ever, but he was noticeably smaller. Except the ass, all its glory is still there. Two perfect mounds. The cock was the cock, he still has that famous bigger than average cock. And the face, maybe a little bit more worn, gaunter, but still beautiful as ever before. After some initial soap and rinse down, we make out. He still is the best kisser I’ve ever had in Thailand. He certainly knows how to do it, or at least how I wanted it. I stroke his dick, it gets to attention. After some more foreplay, I reach for the towel to dry us off. We emerge from the bathroom and find Tiago laying on the bed, stroking his dick on one hand, his phone on the other, watching a video. He puts the phone away when he sees us emerge. MonBoy gets shy again looking at me, and then at Tiago, and then at Tiago’s dick. I tell Tiago, in Portuguese, that MonBoy is a little bit shy. Tiago gets the hint and stands up, to make some space, dick swinging with his motion. What followed was a little bit awkward, but nonetheless fun to explore and try out. MonBoy eventually got settled in bed, but couldn’t get hard again like he was in the shower. Tiago asked if he was in the way, but MonBoy assured us he was fine with the two of us being there. The kissing was hot, everyone tried to suck each other, which was hot. Tiago was really into rimming MonBoy, which was fun to watch. Monboy probably embarrassed with his shy penis, offered to bottom for both of us. I asked MonBoy if he has taken anyone as big as Tiago before. MonBoy assured us he did. I’ve seen MonBoy take dick like a champion before. Tonight was not one of those nights. He tried tho, which was in itself a triumph. Tiago came jacking himself off while rimming MonBoy. I came while jacking myself off, Tiago sucking my nipples, and MonBoy making out with me. MonBoy stayed being shy. Which was fine. We all shower after, with again Tiago in the second bathroom and MonBoy and me in the master. MonBoy asks to stay for a little bit because he wants to take the BTS/MRT home and it doesn’t start up till morning. I offer a GrabTaxi and he says its just easier for him to use the train. Tiago settles in the bed and gets to deep slumber almost immediately. I plop myself in the middle while MonBoy settles in beside me. It was a long day, and it all hit me and put me to sleep as soon as my head hit the pillow. Everything that happened tonight was very familiar. It was like those 2 and a half years never happened. And I got on the saddle really quick. It was just like riding a bike. Well, almost. I guess Tiago’s bike was too large for MonBoy to ride. It doesn’t matter. As long as you are along for the ride, that’s what counts. Next, the morning after…