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I finally decided to get out of my apartment. I had a bout with Covid which took longer than expected to heal. The cough is still there but the ATK tests negative. The doctor said the cough may last a few months. A few rounds to the hospital over the past month made me just not to want to stray from the necessary places. However, tonight, I ventured out and I wanted to see if Hi Club was like their videos on LINE. First, there is a thread here that discusses the place. Second, their LINE group is very active. I was told it opened at 9PM so I got there around 9:30. No one was there and I was the only customer. So, I had my pick. Being secluded for a month I got greedy and invited 4 boys to sit and have drinks. All were young and manly and cute. A few six packs and very cuddly. All were straight and none were open to gay encounters except to get sucked and to fuck. Well, that was not what I was looking for so I told them to fuck off. Just kidding. I liked two so I took them home with me. On a scale of 1-10, well, perhaps the fun factor can't be properly rated so I'll pass on the service rating as it would not be fair. But, on a cute scale, at least a 9. I enjoyed their company for the night. I told them 3k before we left the bar and they were both OK with that for an overnight. Having to do it again, I think I would have chosen more carefully to make sure they could at least do a few things other than get sucked or fuck. But, hey, they told me in advance and I should have believed them. All from were from Laos. The cost of the bill at the place was 3899. That was 1699 for the mixers and whiskey (which they throughly enjoyed and played some games). The off was 500 baht each. And, there was a fee per hour for boys to sit with you. That was all a bit odd and I'm not sure if that was BS but I paid anyway. All in all, the place is very clean, newly renovated and comfortable. No smoking inside that I saw and the boys with me all went outside to smoke. The music was not too loud when I was there and it was good music and not Thai music. I was told it did not get busy until 2AM, so apparently, I get older and the night must start earlier. The place was easy to find and on the main road near the other massage places. https://www.tiktok.com/@hiclubkaraoke 131 7 Sutthisan Winitchai Rd, Samsen Nai, Phaya Thai, Bangkok 10400 QHQ3+JP Bangkok

Funeral Service for Kjun12 in Bangkok Nov. 19, 2022. Twentyfive Thais and 1 Farang in attendance

I must say I have often found no use for social media but for the past few months I didn't go out a lot and I started following some sexy lads from OnlyFans on Twitter and Instagram. I did not expect a great deal but I have now met up with three of the OnlyFans guys that I wanted to meet and had a great time. They were fun and great sex and while not really "working", they were willing to earn some extra income from a nice easy going old man. One I have seen a few times and will be a regular for sure. I also love watching this videos online which is quite exciting for me. So, for anyone who thought it was not possible to meet those OnlyFans or Twitter guys, think again. It is possible (with a lot of patience and time).

don't worry about lack of boys and too much rain, just go. All bars will be opened and well staffed, it may rain but it never rain more than 1-2 hrs. max. Since May is my favorite vacation month I was in Thailand in that month quite a few times ( 2013, 2015, 2016, 2018, 2022 ) and never noticed any shortage of guys

I think you are younger than me, don't pull me into old man status yet 😝

A Cajun song to celebrate Kjun's life. The Acadians became Cajuns as they adapted to their new home and its people. Their French changed as did their architecture, music, and food. The Cajuns of Louisiana today are renowned for their music, their food, and their ability to hold on to tradition while making the most of the present.

Monday Wednesday Fridays best at Pointe imho! Sundays, Tuesdays and Saturdays best at 117! Bangu 45 minutes east of centro old open air sauna but can be fun! best night is Sunday!! I am not a fan of MM which is more a drag queen club, old and in Centro! but we all have different types/preferences! so your mileage may vary!

I look at myself naked before, during or after sex and know I wouldn't be into me, why should I expect a hot 20 something to be into me, I don't have any delusions about that, they're just doing their job and if we get along personality wise, we have fun. When I was 20, 25 seemed old to me....now I'm 58 and have raised the bar to accept up to 32 yrs old guys 😝

On my go-maps homespa, where this thread started with, is only in Thai written. That may be for some or many a tad too difficult. As for these Sapan kwai shops, going from N-W there are: Whithin 1 min of BTS Sapan Kwai: M15 (old faded sign of fah.... still hanging. Reception is on 1st floor-ground floor is just a hall with empty cases G-beat, in same house as where long ago Bridge used to be, by now one of the best designed spaś anywhere across road: K-man, always busy with line-line-line. has just raised prices this week by 50 bt-is now 550 for 1 hr (outside window says still 450). Then we take a longer walk -past BigC (also all renovated and upgraded)-turn left into Suttisarn/INtramara Near soi 11 the first hit is that Hi-Club KaRaOK-no msg BT-as just above, south side of road KK-spa. Outside sign says 1 hr oil 350 bt. then on nr 384, unmarked outside is Home Spa (sign to be seen when in hall)-a dump. Across from there north side of road: M27 and then (only marked in Thai:) Ind(i)ra. That counts 8 for me. Those of the K-concern all have front windows all covered and show pix of men only-other as a normal msg shop The tiny majority who uses buses to go there: use one along the expressway there, like 24 or 504 and not via jammed up Suttisarn. Get off at Fire Brigade Suttisarn/Huay Kwang There might yet be another barely marked one south side across from soi 15/17 Also remarkable if one has not been in that area for 3-4 yrs is how much going upmarket gentrification has hit, many very high rise tower condo flats, new design shops and even a co-working space. Also saw a male couple holding hands of whom 1 had lONELY-Fans sign on T-shirt, no idea if this is meant as invitation or that he is such a **star That old soi off Pradipat where the gay bars used to be: well they are all 4 still there without even names changed. DD en STAX left hand, U-turn and Waterloo right side. The very old sign of Be-High Bar is still there at bak soi (entry from main rd)

There a banner suspended from the Surawong side of entrance, accounting the return of the market on December 5th. Don’t know how long it’s been there but the date draws near.

Reader, I'm shocked that you believe all these rumors about such a nice group of people. Give them a chance. They have worked so hard and their people have suffered so much to prepare for the World Cup. This is their time to shine and bring light to the diversity of that region.

as I reported in another thread Madrid is now in Charoen Krung soi 49, soi is almost opposite of Assumption Roman Catholic Cathedral. One acl walk there from s Silom, take tax or take BTS to Saphan Taksin and then it's pretty short walk from there. Spy atmosphere is gone but menu is the same and pizza tastes as great as before, visited at least 4 times during my recent trip. Owner told me she doesn't have any plans of returning to Patpong

Ghastly thought! Not of seeing the boys again - of seeing my body in the vdos!

From the Thaiger A football has not been kicked in anger at the 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar and already a match-fixing scandal has erupted. If the decision to stage football’s most prestigious competition in the Arab country of Qatar wasn’t controversial enough, amid allegations of corruption and human rights violations, FIFA has to deal with an alleged match-fixing impropriety on the eve of the tournament. The Regional head of the British Centre for Middle East Studies, Amjad Taha, claimed on Twitter that World Cup 2022 host Qatar has bribed eight players from the Ecuador national team to throw the opening match on Sunday, November 20. Taha, an expert in strategic political affairs and regional director of the British centre in Saudi Arabia, said that eight players have received a combined US$7.4 million (265 million baht) to throw the opening game against Qatar. It is reported that Ecuador will allow Qatar to win 1-0 and the goal will be scored in the second half. Taha ended his post adding that he hopes the rumour is not true. The allegations are hard to ignore given Qatar has been accused in the past of bribing FIFA with millions of dollars to be chosen as the host of the World Cup ahead of the United States. Neither the Qatar government nor the Qatar Football Federation has commented on the rumours. The opening match between Qatar and Ecuador will kick off on Sunday, November 20. As Thailand can close the deal for the broadcasting license yesterday, football fans in the country can enjoy the first match this Sunday at 11pm.

I found 2 guys in Bali, on my last trip and in previous trips as well that seemed to genuinely want bf's.....1 was a money boy the other wasn't and a few on previous trips as well. But if you're looking for someone to want you, you gotta be kind of loyal/faithful to them too, not just make pretend then go off fucking everyone else....people have feelings. I'm honest with them that we live on the other side of the world and it's unlikely that we could be a couple together. I think in Thailand (and other places) they are so cold and commercial because so many have been hurt before, being told how much someone loves them, they'll be back, whatever other lies and then their illusion is broken when they never hear back from you or see you with someone else. So they become jaded and keep business as business. Mexico is also a good place, big country with so many horny guys available.... the thing about latins, they expect you to be faithful, but can't keep it in their pants either, lol

There are dozens of such sites. But OMG no-=never. I am even still quite suspicious what the guys in the privacy of rooms do with their fones. BTW-where is khun lung/nong chai vinapu now? I thought you were lost in the jungle of prathet Laos as last sign maybe out of any wifi reach. Whereas the pretty strong guys from there now all seem to congregate here in BKK.

+1, I thought exactly the same about mine

That’s exactly what bothered me in Rio’s saunas. The boys were si professionalized that i could no longer have the slightest illusion and therefore the excitement waned. I have seen them pass so much from one client to another. This is also why thailand doesn’t interest me. I’m looking for a destination with slightly less professionalized money boys… to find the illusion back

I think it is an international trend. Brazilian sex workers have been using IG as their main outlet for several years, and the same happens in Argentina, the two sex markets I know the best in South America. I wonder about the USA, though. I stopped hiring there a few years ago so I am unsure whether or not they are moving away from paid websites like Rentmen to focus more in their social media.

I do not expect them to be into me. I agree with you. I only expect them to have enough talent to make me believe they are, even if I know I am buying a fantasy. As I am aging, that talent is harder to find, but it is not an impossible mission.

Tonight I confirmed that the boys working at Double Shot Bar are straight. They can be offed for a fee of 500 Baht. What they can or will do is between the customer and them. Hope this is helpful.

keep up with us, they moved, I think I told you that one night, but you were probably drunk 😱

Third day - Monday: Anything could happen while you're on a vacation, especially if it is on the LOS. I never thought I would eat pizza while in BKK. I woke up nice and fresh on Monday morning and exchanged texts with my friend who asked me if i was interested to go eat at Madrid. Having no plan in mind, I agreed to it and we went there with a taxi. Taxi dropped us off at the entrance of a small soi. We needed to walk around a small soi, and found Madrid in a deep residential neighborhood. It appeared to me far from usual touristy places but what do i know about BKK apart from Silom? We had good lunch at Madrid and went back to the hotel via sky train. There had been a guy (a former jupiter model) whom i was stalking on for more than 2 years. I first heard about him from a couple forum members here and have seen his handsome pictures through them. He is from Cambodia and he appeared to be quite handsome with a muscular body. I was dying to see him on my previous trips during pandemic, but he went back home to Cambodia during pandemic, I was told. I kept asking his whereabouts on my every single trip. My payers were finally heard. I received a text from jupiter mamasan on Monday morning about the guy's contact. he had been back to Thailand but in Pattaya. without hesitation, I sent a message to the guy with my shaky fingers. To my surprise, he immediately replied - he's willing to come see me in BKK. it sounded much better than i expected. i was initially thinking to travel to Pattaya just to see him.

What to say! My trip was amazing. One week was definitely not enough – but that means I have to come back! I had some great meals (even tried the street food a couple times – that was a big thing for me). Saw the Palace, took the boat ride (which I had remember seeing in the James Bond movie years ago). I even walked out onto the glass at the top of the King Power tower. I made it to 4 massage places. I kind of felt I owed it to K-Man Spa since they keep sending me messages with pictures to select. I went to a different club each evening – DreamBoys, Moonlight, FreshBoys, Tawan, Hot Male, and Jupiter. Oh what times I had. Each club fun, and each provided an “off” to spend the evening with. I even tried 2 guys at the same time (remembering to let the first pick the second – as recommended on this blog). I have to thank everyone on this blog. If not for this, I don’t think I ever would have gone. Reading the posts and trip reports gave me the courage to know I could do it. Thanks again. Looking forward to my next trip!

Just arrived! I thought that travellers may welcome the latest news on what's happening at Suvarnabhumi, particularly in the light of the taxi situation and the impact of the conference taking place. My EVA flight was on time and,walking towards immigration, I was surprised how quiet the airport was. As for Immigration itself, my intention had been to head for the Fast Track but no need; there were no queues and I waltzed through. A charming young woman welcomed me warmly. It made a change from the usual Officer Grumpy I encounter! A good start but the luggage was very slow. As slow as it was when the airport was brand new and suffering teething problems. However, a SIM station is newly open directly next to the luggage belt and so I was able to buy one as I waited for perhaps thirty minutes. Now the taxis. As forecast , a huge queue. i walked further along- that's left from the exit- and to my surprise there was another taxi station I've never noticed before. And with no queue. So future travellers should ignore the queue directly in front of the exit. It's only fifty metres or so extra to walk. Feeling smug about this, i enjoyed thirty minutes of the journey ....until we arrived at Rama 4, Silom and Surawong. A frustrating crawl. The driver pointed out the Army on stand-by but I can't say that security was the issue. It was, of course, rush- hour. Back in dear old Tarntawan eventually, after three years away. Sixty visits? not sure. i recognised not one of the staff. Pleased to see that those old carpets had gone, at last. The rooms are much the same but the beds and linen are first class, better than at more expensive hotels I've stayed in here. And Tarntawan is certainly well-priced.

I have had some great success with IG guys as well, a couple were freelance working guys and a few are just normal guys that didn't want any money. I will say it can be difficult to get a conversation going with some, they get hundreds of messages from guys wasting their time, so getting a conversation started and then working out if offering money will offend them or not can take some time. I find Grindr and Onlyfans can be much easier, but some of the cute guys on IG I have on my radar don't seem to be on Grindr so I just have to shoot my shot there. It's a very different game for non-working guys on IG though, you need to approach it like dating sometimes, and trying to line things up is much better if you're already in their city. Bombarding them with love messages from afar and trying to get nudes from them is 90% of their inbox, standing out from that crowd to get a connection or replies can be hard work at times.

Just a day ago or so I saw a note about that on quite another Thai/Chinese forum/infoboard (gbsiam-used to be Thai, G--.boy Siam, but is apparently taken over by some Chinese tycoon) which then stated it had announced to open around late November, so that could be next week. In the Onnut area, which is even further out of centre BKK as ThongLor is. Claims to have many real Thai celebrities in its staff and a shop-price per hr of 1.500 THB-or about double what even the highest priced other such shops ask for. This indicates its mostly aimed to the hi-so Thai market and it may even very well be to fob these stinky farang off. But really-no such a Thai would even think 1 second to go sitting in such a shop. For fear of officials and/or police no such a shop will ever admit to state to allow more to strangers. If one does a simple google then loads of massageshops named Cloud-or the like, appear, so there is no guarantee at all we talk about the same venue. (BTW-now that we talk Onnut-which is a BTS stop linked to a (Tesco)LOtus and via a walking street to a BigC-old Carrefour: this walking street used to have rows of massageshops at low Thai prices on both sides of which some were said to also offer more by some of their staff-also at low Thai prices for that. Also along the main rd Sukhumvit-that side, walking back to town, you will pass many more such shops and the more remote ones tended to have pretty cute male staff too-which as such is rather uncommon for normal msg shops as such. But that is all from so long ago it might by now all be history. Perhaps someone lives in the area and knows more or is going out for a walk anyway and enough command of Thai?

Ahhhhhhhhhh! An undiscovered new place to be a whore when I arrive. Thank you.

and as one of your loyal fans - I cannot wait to read your sordid details about the finale of your trip.......

What do you mean diagnosis? Are you saying I could have it ?

Great-a timely wonder of fast exploration. Myself walked by there that afternoon-just when the rains had stopped and all those pipes still leaked on the footpath. It is north side of that street near soi 11. The 4-5 m2m msg shops are a little further on, coming from Spn Kwai. And indeed it seems that about any willing guy from the real Laos is in BKK at the mo working around there. Outside all black and only sign KaraOK. The old-style Sapan Kwai shops in the tiny soi off Pradipath have more or less same style, but actively promote that singing and of course mostly/only to Thai music. I know some very old hits/nrs from years ago, but cannot sing and will just leave that to others. (yes, charging by the hr for guys sitting is/was common, but at very low rates in the past-another take-over of the many more girlie bars, but is often waived if customer spends enough-which you clearly did).

Oh don’t be ridiculous. The Democrats would be considered centre right in Australia They can’t even agree on voting rights, minimum wage, or universal healthcare. The socialist tag is absurd.

Kind of the same in BKK a couple weeks ago.... everyone rushed to close ontime and on sched, police pulled up with the lights on....

Urwin was on one tonight! Double Shot is great. The boy with the longer hair, skinny. He is a lot of fun! Speaking to other bars owners this was the best Saturday / weekend since covid. Bars were packed. Boys were being bar fined all over. The complex was alive again. I had my best night out since 2019. Just a shame the police had to turn up and close everyone at 1:45am. Great way to welcome back tourism. Shove flashing red lights, guns and flashlights in their faces. Well done BIB! I guess it's important to remember that after 2am, in a bar, you catch covid. Idiots.

This assumption could land you in hot water. I know many Thai's who go for a drink in Jomtien Complex after work and such. None of them have any interest in being "offed" by an old farang. They are customers just as we are. Double Shot boys can be offed, but as you said, they are straight. You wont be fucking them! I hear reports that many of them are duds (can't keep it up with a man). It was only yesterday I was talking to a friend and he mentioned the time he was walking through Jomtien Complex with his boyfriend, and some old farang touched his boyfriends ass. The boyfriend turned around and walloped him. Classic.

They told me all the boys can be delivered to "home" thus the name. Here were some available today.

You would be able to swim every day. I do. It only rains for an hour or so. You never get prolonged rain. As said above, as long as nothing "bad" happens globally, the bars and massage shops will be open everyday, every month, year round. Just as they were before covid. Keep in mind that there is a large number of expats here. We keep the bars and massage shops alive in low season. Jomtien Complex is all host bars. No gogo bars. Head to Boyztown for gogo bars. Toy Boy, A bomb, X Boys, Dreamboys. Sunee Plaza has Winner Boy and Nice Boys, but it can be dead some nights, even now in the run up to high season. As for Bangkok, I think there are other members here who live in Bangkok and can give you better information. I live near to Jomtien.

Why don't you upload a few pictures so we can judge better? No seriously, go to see a specialist. Related, I recently got vaccinated with Gardasil9 (3 shots at 6000 THB each, not cheap), which gives some protection from anal, penile and throat cancer.

I tried those once, absolutely useless, for all the good they were I may as well of stuck them up my ass !

Rougher around the edges than Freshboys with no attitude or drama.. Tbh, I don’t recall much in the way of attitude from guys from Freshboys, either.

Have you ruled out hemorrhoids?

Myself arrived MON-2 days ago by now, and as a tiger-senior was now able to use the priority lane anyway-with an utmost polite and efficient immi-veteran. I did see a fair Q at the normal gates and loads of signs for this APAC meeting to come up. And yes-then the wait for the luggage also took some 20 mins-it was an AB380 from EK-so the biggest plane there is. All over the airport and also in the luggage hall are dozens of stalls offering various SIMs. Took RailLInk into town and was in it just <60 mins after deplaning.

Well it's good to finally read a GOOD news story I guess in these depression times of world cost of living crises ! lol

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds 😀

PART ONE: My work had taken me to Manila for a four week stay last January and again this past December. This is a compilation report of my own personal experiences. HOTEL: Makati was certainly the place of choice for straight titty bars and female prostitutes, but it seemed from the gay guides that Malate was the place of choice for gays. After checking out the various web site gay guides, I decided to stay in a cheap business hotel across from Robinson’s Mall. My gay work colleague decided to stay in an Airbnb but quickly moved out because the place had security guards either registering your guests or not allowing you to have guests unless you provided the guest’s driver’s license 24 hours ahead of the visit. In fact, I am absolutely sure that the Philippines must employ 90% of their citizens to work as security guards… they are in those same white crisply starched shirts as you will see in front of every business. The cheap hotel I stayed in offered breakfast and I chose it precisely because of location and not comfort. It also had no security other than the bell hop. At the Mall across the road was the famous gay meeting place of: Starbucks! I had thought Malate was filled with gay bars, but I was mistaken. However, like Makati it IS filled with karaoke bars and women strippers at the bars and massage parlors. GRINDR AND PLANET ROMEO: I was getting over 20 messages an hour from my profile when I opened it on these apps. I laid out what I was clearly looking for in sex, as well as noting that I would be happy to help with donation for a young student’s debt (so as to bypass the app restrictions). I quickly learned how deceiving the profiles of guys can be. You will note that the profiles usually say something like “not a trace” or “manly” to reference being masculine and “tropa” for group action. Two types of guys started messaging me: FIRST TYPE--Most of the profiles that contact you will show “masahe” (or some similar way of writing massage) or “not for fun” or “available” or “hagod” to describe the massage they can provide. They will usually just message you with a set price list. This list is for the massage only. The “ES” or “extra service” is something extra you pay for. As was reported on another review, the guys do NOT like to say how much the ES is, if they would offer it, or even what it would be if they offered it. I decided to try a massage for my first afternoon and the guy came to my hotel. The price he quoted was 1,000 pesos ($20.00 USD) for the massage. He also happened to be the one guy that said on messaging that he would offer ES but would only talk about what the ES was when we were in person. I had to meet him outside the hotel and we walked in together to my room. Well, he showed up and he clearly was much older than the Grindr profile photo. In fact, he was wearing so much makeup to make himself look younger that it was just weird. When we got to room, he proceeded to the bathroom and then disrobed to his underwear. He had me lie down on the bed nude with a towel over my ass. He then proceeded to do a fairly decent massage. He then asked me if I wanted ES. I asked what he had to offer. He then said 1,000 more for a hand job, 1,500 for a blow job, or 2,000 to fuck him. I just couldn’t get past the 40 year old in make-up that had used photos of when he was 20. So, I declined and we parted ways. I learned a lot from my first mistake. Thereafter, I always asked to video chat with the guy to see what he looked and acted like before we met. It quickly became clear that a large majority of guys were using photos of themselves when they were much much younger. I also made it clear thereafter on my profile that I did not want a massage, but sex only. Further, I wanted a great kisser with the use of the tongue. Interestingly, I learned a new phrase I had not heard of before: Side Fun! This was their way of saying you can kiss, cuddle, and suck each other, but not engage in anal sex. So, I became very explicit during my first meeting a guy by saying I wanted side fun, a great kisser with the tongue, mutual sucking, and both cumming. If a guy came to my place and would not kiss once I got inside the room, then I asked him to leave and gave him a little money for travel. They never got angry as the culture is not one that likes confrontation. I finally became very clear with them… if you lie about what you offer then I will not pay you at all. I should also mention that HUNQS on Planet Romeo had guys offering sex for 2,000-5,000 pesos, but the very same guys in regular profiles texted to offer their time for 1,000. I finally settled on some regularly guys that came to my hotel every other day for sex. It started as “side fun” but they quickly started offering more for the same price since I was a regular. Because I could trust them for a good experience, I also gave them tips and other items over time. SECOND TYPE: You will have tons of messages from 18–25-year-old guys that look very young. Simply put, they are looking for a sugar daddy. They are very very specific (to the point of getting angry) that they are NOT there as “money boys” but are looking for just friendship and relationship with an older man. Make no mistake in your mind, it is not as if the entire young male population of Manila has been genetically bred to like old gay men. As you befriend them, they will start to ask for travel money, then other small “gifts”, and then BIG gifts. Suddenly their mother or grandmother is in the hospital needing care, or their laptop just broke, or etc. The story is the same for many of them. The positive of meeting these guys? I had some of the most passionate and incredible sex of my life with these young sexy men. They were simply amazing and incredibly kind. Most were straight or bi needing money, with the others being gay and needing money (usually for school). The negative? They are ready to marry you after one sexual encounter, they are clingy, they don’t want you to have sex with anyone else, and they expect their daddy to treat them (their son) appropriately. The sad part is that I had heard so many stories from these guys about older western gay men who started a relationship with them and then just dropped and ghosted them after a few weeks. It was heartbreaking to hear them say, “You’re not going to leave me too, are you?” In turn, this also hardened some of these younger guys (knowing the old men might drop them so quickly) to start asking for things early on in the encounters. So, make clear your expectations up front with them. When you write that you are a white foreigner on your profile you will be inundated with messages of guys wanting you to be their daddy. PART TWO TO FOLLOW…

PART TWO: BARS: Google “Boy Bars” and “Manila” to see a number of reports about what is one of the most confusing bar situations to me. Most of the strictly gays bars had closed down in Malate, but the remaining ones are scattered across several sections of Manila. That was a bit frustrating as I had thought I was staying in the gay section known as Malate. I visited a few of the gay bars (two remaining in Malate) and they were underwhelming… just your standard gay bar or dance floor with gays… BUT, the Pinoy version MUST MUST have karaoke (their national sport, it seems). Two had dancers, but no nudity and no touching. The “Boy Bars” that you will find are especially strange. These are another type of bar where virtually all the guys are sexy straight pinoys who will dance in front of you. If you like them, then you pay them to come down and sit to talk with you. Mind you, you are not touching or engaging in sex, but you are just paying them to talk with you. One guy said he would come back with me after hours and his price was 8,000 pesos “to have sex with a sexy straight guy”. I tried two nights of this and ditched it because I realized I could have been having wild passionate sex with 3-4 equally gorgeous guys from the apps for the amount I spent on one hour of talking with some partially clothed straight guy at the boy bar. If that is your thing, then good for you. Google and learn. MASSAGE PLACES: Manila is simply filled with over 20 massage parlors for men to get massages from other men. About half are legit massages where they will NOT offer sex or extra services, while the others are full blown places for massage and sex. These places open and close regularly. There are two ways that I found to tell the difference: FIRST, go on twitter or facebook and search for Manila and massage. Start to follow the parlors where they usually post photos of their massagers and you will see that 1-some make it very clear they are completely legit, 2-some have sexy boys and are very coy about what they offer, and then 3-some are very explicit that ES is offered. You can come to their place or the boys will come to your hotel. Further, they will text you their price range (usually 1,000-4,000) without the price of the ES which is usually 1,000-2,000 pesos and THAT is decided on by the boy. Secondly, start to follow the Manila Massage review profiles on Twitter and Facebook. There are some great reviewers of these parlors that are found on twitter. These reviewers will write in Filipino, but you can use the translate feature to see what they wrote. They will let you know whether the massager offered the ES. Keep in mind that THESE massage parlors are the upscale kind with social media, websites you can google, uniforms, etc. These “A list” parlors are not the same as the “B list parlors”. These “B list” parlors (where the guys always offer ES) do not advertise other than maybe a sign outside their establishment or on Grindr/Planet Romeo. I found six such places around my hotel by Robinson’s Mall. You find them by looking around for their signs and just walking in to ask what they offer. You can also find them by moving your location feature on Grindr around the city. You will see a profile of a guy offering massages and saying he has his own place (which usually means he is operating out of a B list parlor). He usually has one or two other profiles as well. If you come to their place which is usually quite sparse, the price for the massage is usually around 500-700 pesos. ES will be another 1,000-1,500. Going to these places is like being in a surreal movie. You go in, the guy leads you to a darkened room with music that is divided by curtains with a table in each section for a massage. You disrobe and then lie down naked with a towel over your ass. After the massage the guy will talk about ES. It was quite weird having sex on the table whilst another three guys were getting massages and having sex right next to me in the same room divided only by curtains. After those experiences, I decided to pick the guy from the parlor (or the profile on Grindr) and arrange a later visit at my hotel for privacy. To see an example of these “B List” parlors, use your Grindr explorer and center it around the cross streets of Remedios Street and Leon Guinto Street. There are four parlors there only 30 seconds apart from each other. You can see the profiles of the guys on Grindr, and then you can even see the locations in google maps. PART THREE TO FOLLOW…