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Visited this shop for first time today about 16:30. One boy in shop but manager showed me photos on phone of about 15 who were available on call. I chose one and was taken to room. By time I finished shower he arrived and showered. As it turned out, he was my first gay masseur of trip and performed well. The one hour oil was 420 baht and was informed full service minimum tip was 1,000 (well earned). When I left there were three in the shop, any one of whom I’d take. Rooms here on first floor with mattress on floor atop foot-high platform. Shower down the hall. I took Blue Line and walked Sutthisan Winichai Rd. from Sutthisan station. It took about 22 minutes but I prefer approaching in opposite direction from Saphan Kwai because shops along way more interesting and sidewalks better. By 16:00, that side of road mostly in shade. Two bus routes serve this road. I began walking toward Saphan Kwai and I travelled no more than 3-4 minutes when I came upon KK Spa, a shop I’ve visited in three earlier occasions this trip. If you aren’t a slut like me you would have concluded that you’ve had sufficient fun and just headed home. I of course opened the door and was presented with a bottle of water and a new photo array. Several guys made the short list but the beaming smile on one sealed it and I agreed to one hour oil for 350 baht. I took shower and when I returned my guy had arrived and was stripping down. He was bigger than he looked in photo and had great tats. Turned out to be 22 year old Cambodian. I had chosen well because after he showered he demonstrated that straight guys know what the he’ll it’s all about. I traded places with after less than 15 minutes and he was a bit surprised. He soon discovered that this was a great idea and completely relaxed. He showered with me and we took turns soaping up each other. The minimum tip was 800 and I gladly tuned that up. From what I gather, these shops are keenly aware that their main source of income is locals and have adjusted their fees down in the past week or so. The guys are all free lancers and derive their income solely from tips. In the Silom area, most guys are on staff and get a cut of the fee because they have specified work hours to be available in shop. I believe the reason so many hot guys are available in these more remote locations is geography. These are the areas Thais and other Asians can afford to live. Some work other jobs during the day and are on call later.

Super A and Lucky S were related and later kind of ´merged´ into 1. The original SupA as I remember was just 1 house beyond where it is now-at least double the size. But for quite a long time I kept an off-bar regular meeting whilst in BKK with a guy working there and met first time there-he also quickly noted the un-comfort and pointed to alternative dating. This must have been the early/mid 90ies. There were at that time also f...ing shows, already then with the very slim long haired katoey. Probably only when enough customers were present. I would like to correct some; Super LEK was not at all the tipical sleazy one-it was run as a strict Japanese style club -which also meant that any more close move to a guy working would cost money to purchase something. Name a bit similar to LUcky S=-but quite different operating. Just around the corner was my favorite-not so much the Golden Cock but a bar that had various names, I remember King Diamond. In soi Anuman...-just beyond what is now that restrt. (or also was?) There has also been a sauna for a few monthes on the corner just before the G.Cock.

I'm not sure exactly how I came across this place... But it's a male massage place that's sort of Saphan Kwai area on Intramara Soi 29. Looks like lots of hot boys. Might be a bit out of the way for most of us though. But their tweets do say on-site and off-site service available https://twitter.com/spagay31 http://lin.ee/aM4m4IS

I'm proud of you

I'm not sure about the details but there is a big yellow "A" in the sign post and I talked to the same mamasan (or owner?), who been there before Covid.

Isn't a key part of life to be happy, however we achieve that happiness - barring robbing bank or something similar, of course? Keep enjoying it.

I'll be even more boring (!) and suggest that what made Bangkok so special was not so much the quantity as the quality of the bars and their offerings. There were many I'd go into and quickly depart. But starting with Apollo in Soi 4 in the early 1980s with its nude dancing after around 9:30 pm, Barbiery from the mid-1980s with its two stages, 100 or so boys and a cornucopia of delights every visit, Volt sauna around the same time (was it the first with Obelisk opeing soon after?) and then the crown jewel of the original Babylon. Somewhere during that time I discovered the original Twilight and just loved the place - sleaze and all.

Yes.... Lucky S, that's the one. As far as Soi Twilight is concerned, a couple of years later, it had Chardonnay, Blue Star and a couple of others opposite (New Man?) plus a short-time hotel. In that glorious, first trip I took to BKK, it was where I had my most interesting times. Blue Star was unique in that it had two separate troupes of gogo dancers, one very twinkish, the other more manly. They took it turns to strut their stuff, combining occasionally for a naked show. I recall that the twinks were often shy and kept their hands strategically-placed while the other guys let it all hang-out. Blue Star was where I dropped my wallet and was chased along the soi by one of the waiters who returned it to me. An unexpected and significant moment because, thereafter, I was impatient with falangs who claimed that the guys we meet aren't trustworthy.

Dog ugly? Would like to meet them.

From Thai PBS World From November 15th, people who want to deposit cash viacash deposit machines (CDMs) in Thailand will be required to identify themselves by inserting their credit or debit cards and entering their Personal Identification Number (PIN) or password. The new measure has been introduced by the Anti-Money Laundering Office and will be applied to all commercial banks, to prevent the laundering of money earned from drug trafficking, illegal gambling or other criminal activity. According to AMLO, the alternative for those who do not have a credit or debit card PIN or password for their bank accounts is to deposit their money and show their ID cards tobank tellers in the branch, which will incur service charges. Many bank customers have expressed disagreement, via social media, with AMLO’s new measure, claiming that itunnecessarily increases the financial burden and inconvenience, because they will have to apply for debit cards. The state-owned Krung Thai Bank is the first commercial bank to confirm the role-out of this new measure and a channel through which the public can seek more information. So far, 11 commercial banks have approved the new measure, among them are the Krung Thai Bank, Siam Commercial Bank, Kasikorn Bank, Bangkok Bank, Bank of Ayudhya, TMBThanachart Bank, UOB Bank, CIMB Bank, the Government Savings Bank, the Government Housing Bank and Kiatnakin Phatra Bank.

From the Diplomat On October 16, the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) opened its 20th National Party Congress to one, announce a major leadership shuffle and two, review China’s achievements over the last five years, thereby charting a course for the coming five years. Much of the international discussion has seemed to focus on President Xi Jinping’s tightening grip on authority, which marks a shift from China’s old-school leadership transition (post-Deng Xiaoping era) and could ultimately put Xi on par with Chairman Mao Zedong. While this development certainly deserves attention, the CCP’s work report is what truly matters in the eyes of observers in Thailand. Continues at https://thediplomat.com/2022/10/chinas-zero-covid-policy-an-economic-nightmare-for-thailand/

Some here are paying for balls to leave after thoroughly sucking them & have no interest in said balls chained to us.

The Bangkok sex-scene which so many enjoy ( and yes, I know the Thais were doing it well before us) owes its success to the American soldiers on R &R from Vietnam, turning Khun Patpong's banana plantation into...well, whatever it is now. And then, requiring a beach as well as bars, Pattaya from fishing village to Commercial Sex Capital of the World. Indeed, where would prostitution be without the contributions of soldiers on leave? or just running away? Sensible warriors, like Alexander the Great, took the brothels with them on their expeditions.

Tourists are there for short time (perhaps a couple weeks), high spending tourists stay at 5/4 star hotels, eat at 5/4 star restaurants, and shop at nice malls. They may get some souvenirs from street vendors but have limited contacts with lower class, let alone in depth observation on the social/racism issues. If you live there for a few months and are in a local middle class apartment, it would be a very different story. If you are white and are looking for sex with guys of color, it could by easy, because by theory, you are a superior class, people of colors would love to be associated with you. If you are white looking for white, it will be challenging unless you are equally hot. If you are paying for sex, it's cheaper to get people of colors, this is pretty much an universal rule in central/south America. I assume you speak adequate español.

Don't you guys have hands in Western Australia to tidy you over in your hour of need?

It's easy to get bored in Western Australia. You have to make your own fun here. That's one reason why we travel so much.

Thanks for clarifying the issue re Super Lex. (Not sure if the name was LEK or LEX - it does seem it was run by Lex Matsuda but that would not prevent his naming the bar LEK). You are indeed correct. It was a different sort of bar. I recall the boys did often appear naked on stage but with their bodies partially hidden behind light gauzes.

I wonder if all these young Russians didn't flee Russia so they wouldn't be drafted into the war in Ukraine 🤔

Easily accessible by taxi or bus 74. Off-site are usually outrageously expensive. I have been to Home Spa several times, but never found a selection of boys as good as on their twitter or line and left without doing business there. I think they share their boys with ฟ้าหลังฝน นวดเพื่อสุขภาพ Fah lang Fon Massage (old name on google maps, changed name to 27M or 15M massage), which is in walking distance to BTS Saphan Khwai. I wrote about these places on my blog, currently offline but can be accessed here https://web.archive.org/web/20220616210853/https://christianpfc.blogspot.com/

Not sure it worked as intended...

I know I lead a boring life (well some may think so) but I am happy with that, before the pandemic I travelled once a year mostly to Thailand but have been many times to the Philippines, Vietnam, Indonesia and Singapore. Unless something else untoward occurs I shall restart my travelling next year, starting with my Thailand lost time catch up trip but I have plans to return to the other above mentioned countries at some stage. In the mean time I shall plod along with my boring but happy life😁

I wish I could go to church with my bf.

Tried but failed to find it on first trip in 2002. It was only on second trip that I succeeded. In its heyday, it was practically addictive.

Obviously this very much depends on your budget. The first thing to remember is that Tokyo is a huge city, mostly low rise and so location is important. The public transport system is fantastic, extensive and cheap. You can get almost anywhere with the Japan Railways (JR) overground system or the various subway lines. The problem is it all closes down just before midnight and the last thing you want even to consider is a taxi home. Taxis are horribly expensive. Since you will no doubt want to be near the main gay area, Shinjuku is the obvious location for your hotel. This is the main high rise district but underneath street level there is a rabbit warren of passageways, all with shops, which means if it is raining you can easily walk to get around. Shinjuku station is one of the busiest in the world and takes a little getting used to. But here again the location is great. From Narita airport there is the fast Narita Express train which has just one stop before Shinjuku. As you would arive at Haneda there is no train service but a handy regular limousine bus service that also goes direct to Shinjuku station. If you are adventurous, there is a monorail that takes you to one of the main JR and subway stations. But I think not ideal for a first time visitor. The next thing you need is a good bilingual map. Actually atlas is more appropriate because you need lots of pages if you want to explore other parts of the city (and they are well worth exploring). I like this one because it is smaller than a paperback whereas most of the others seem to be a bit larger than a paperback. As for hotels in Shinjuku, there is one right in the middle of gay district, the City Hotel Lonestar, but the rooms are tiny - and you do not know the meaning of tiny until you see them! Basically hotel price is often dependent on room size. Business hotels are near the cheaper end but the rooms are small often without a proper wardrobe or much room for a large suitcase - but the bathrooms will be spick and span! The other point to note is that if you are visiting around the time the sakura is in bloom, rates will be higher. This is generally anywhere from mid-March to early April. The Shinjuku Prince Hotel is an older property but within walking distance of the gay area. . I have stayed at what is now named the Citadines Central Shinjuku Tokyo Hotel which used to be a Best Western. I liked it, although it is on the edge of the red light district and you may have to put up with the odd tout approaching you to go to a straight club - oddly many are African! Always book a double room if you plan to have company for the night as the single rooms will have just a small single bed. Rooms with breakfast should come in at around US$120. I have also stayed many times at the excellent Century Southern Tower which is only a three minute walk from the station and located on the top floors of a skyscraper building. Bed and breakfast is nearer $160 but well worth it. I have seen recommended elsewhere a hotel just across from Shinjuku Gyoen Park (a bit closer to the gay district) but I cannot recall its name. Nearer the time I can give you lots more information about what to see and where to go - gay and otherwise!

Why? They did not pay tattoo shop for the service?

I once read a fascinating book The Nature of Personal Reality. Effectively it suggests that we are all conditioned by our upbringing (pretty obvious) and that the way we lead our lives is to a large extent conditioned by what is instilled in us from birth by our parents and family. If we are going to carve out a reality for ourselves, we have to work quite hard mentally to find a way to break free from at least some of these early beliefs. From a young age I wanted to get away from home. Initially it was nothing to do with being gay, but that changed. I just wanted somehow to find a job that would take me away from my home country and give me the opportunity of seeing more of the world. It took some years but eventually I found myself in Asia in my late 20s. For most of the time it was Hong Kong, a territory I knew virtually nothing about before I landed at the old Kai Tak airport. Almost instantly I fell madly in love with the place - even though it still had the old British colonial anti-sodomy law on the statute books (this was not repealed until around 1990). That turned out to be no barrier to forming relationships with the stunning young guys I was to meet there. My second piece of luck was that there were virtually no westerners in the region working in my particular field. So within just a few years I was travelling reguarly all around Asia mostly on business trips but with a free week-end in the middle. I felt I had hit the jackpot. I stil remember so many of the guys I met in various countries decades ago. Andy from Blue Boy in Kuala Lumpur with whom I spent two blissful nights in just my second year. Armando in Manila. Yusuke and a six month affair in Tokyo. Sombat in Bangkok. Yoick in Seoul. David a model in Qingdao. Jonathan from Taiwan and a five year affair. Fai whom I saw frequently in Singapore. Before that move, I was given a multitude of advice about why moving to Hong Kong would be wrong for me and the career path I thought I wanted. I admit I was also full of doubts. But it was a 2 year contract with my Board having an option on a third. In the end that just seemed a small period earlyish in my life I might lose if I found I just did not like either the work or Asia. Rarely if ever I have I found life boring. It only took a couple of years before I'd be landing again at Kai Tak and realising I was home. And Asia has been my home since then.

Worse traffic than BKK.....mostly undiscovered gay life than most other Latin American countries....I could easily live in Lima for 6 months. Great sauna downtown ...240 Dangerous Disco....Sagitario Disco in safer area....Vale todo Downtown a few other small places that come and go Lots of hot smooth Peruvians and Venezuelans on Grindr....many for free or almost free. Beware, Peru is the counterfeit capital of USD 😳 My recommendations are pre-Covid.....not sure what has survived.

I arrived BKK today from Pattaya, staying at the Tarntawan and went near Super A to do laundry. While I was waiting outside the laundry place, the Mamasan (owner??) screamed when you saw me , I have that affect on people, she offered me a water and said she's only been open 2 weeks now. I finished late with my friend from NYC and didn't realize everything was closing at 1am....so I walked to Super A, they were closed also....but guess who was open....Golden Cock/Nature boys. Just a fraction of it's former self, but they stay open until whenever.....with locals and other working boys stopping by, I'm told. There was a guy I went with before COVID, had a couple of drinks and he came back to my hotel.....I like the sleeze bars more than Dreamboys ....and places like that. The guys are more appreciative and really work for their money 😉

Thank you @macaroni21. First of all, I do distinctly remember many full-on-body contact during massage while in Bali. The way it happens differs from what normally happens in Thailand (I do have some Thai experience but it is more limited than my Balinese one). During the 'regular' massage session (i.e. the first 45-60 min of your 'massage' experience), nothing happens. The masseur remains dressed and he will - very gently but firmly - place your hands and arms on the massage table in a way that guarantees no 'accidental' touches. Then, when you are on your back (and most likely, fully erect by that time) and he is finishing your regular massage, he will ask you 'Do you still want extras?' Remember, you have to pre-agree the extras - be very specific what you want - before the regular massage session starts. When you say yes, he will lock the door to the room/cubicle and remove all his clothes very quickly. Now, if you want a full naked body-to-body massage, you should tell that to your masseur before the regular session starts. If he refuses (that happens very rarely), you simply go back to the front desk and request another performer. As the full body-to-body massage has already been pre-agreed, this is what he will start with now - and 15-20 min later, he will move to other parts of the 'extras' that you've pre-ordered. He will definitely climb onto the table for the extras. I've had this service many dozens of times over many years, and I have been very rarely disappointed. As to the traffic and where to stay... The trafic was still bad in 2019 though they did try to introduce one-way streets with dubious results (it will take you much less to get to your destination but then it will take you twice as long as before to get back to your hotel — so overall, you still spend the same time in traffic jams). My advice is to walk. If you place yourself strategically (see below), it won't be more than a 40 min - 1h maximum leisurely stroll from your hotel to the massage parlour. It not only saves the money but is very pleasant, actually. I always stay at beach front hotels, which means I'll have to walk 5 min to Seminyak Square and about 40 min to Jl. Sunset Road. Massage parlours are rather scattered all over Kuta/Seminyak but the bars - if that's what you are after - are very compactly packed by Marriott Courtyard, which is about 10-15 min walk from the beach. As I recall, Primera Hotel Seminyak (it is a 3-* place, I think) and Marriott Courtyard (slightly more upmarket but still very affordable) are - literally - nextdoor to the bars, they are within 1-3 min walk from them and are on the same street. Elegantz and Adam's Apple are on the same street (effectively) but within 30 min walking of each other. It is slightly to the north of Seminyak proper and about 1h walk from the bars. They are on a street that goes away from the beach into the island (Jl. Batu Belig that later on becomes Jl. Tangkuban Perahu). If you stay somewhere near W Hotel and take the short route, it will be a 10-15 min walk from the hotel to Adam's Apple (Adam's Apple is closer to the beach while Elegantz is much further down). Generally speaking, walking makes much more sense than taking a cab: you'll spend the same time getting to your destination but walking is free. If you choose to stay near the bars, it will be about an 1h walk to get to Elegantz and Adam's Apple. This is when you should consider if taking a cab will be more sensible. You can take a cab to get there and walk back, for example (popping into a restaurant or a bar on your way back to your hotel). Overall, there isn't a magical place where you can stay and be within 5-10 min walking distance from everything: while (almost) all the gay bars are compactly located at the same place, massage parlours are scattered all over, and depending on which one you'll end up fancying more, you'll still need to travel there. Having said that, the scary reports of hours spent in Balinese traffic jams are often exaggerated: it might be true if we are talking long-distance travel but if we are talking covering a distance of 3-5 miles maximum, it is most certainly a huge exaggeration. Yes, you might spend 25 min in a cab doing a journey that normally takes only 7-10 min, but it is not that bad. I hope the above helps! I'd still be very much interested to know how Seminyak looks now, in late 2022: remember, all my information is based on my personal experience of November 2019. I do wonder how the pandemic affected them all. I did a quick Google search and it looks like all the places mentionned above (apart from M-Spa at Paul's Place) are still operational and, surprisingly, their price level is still (approx) the same as I remember from 3 years back. But what about the level of service? Any recent trip reports, anyone? Thank you all in advance!

I think it might be a good time to revive this topic and see if there are any up-to-date reports on what's happening in Bali now (Seminyak and Kuta in particular). I was visiting Seminyak for many years and my last time there was in November 2019 and I can only confirm the excellent succinct summary of @camsi1975. I've never been a fan of bars but Mixwell, BaliJoe and the bars nearby were still going strong then. (If you don't know, gay bars are tightly packed next to each other at Jl. Camplung Tankuk within 2-3 min walk from Marriott Courtyard. If you are into this kind of entertainment, it is both convenient - you don't have to cross the island to get from one bar to another - and inconvenient as it might be quite some distance from where you are staying.) The easiest and safest way to find company over there is to use M2M massage parlours, of which there are many. M-Spa at Paul's Place (Jl. Kayu Aya, just opposite the flea market and 2 min walk from either the Seminyal Square or the Oberoy Hotel, Ku De Ta club or Seminyak Hotel) has always been my favourite for the simple reason that it was - literally - 2 min walk from my favourite hotel. Admittedly, it was the main attraction of Paul's Place: the place was a bit seedy but the quality of the massage was generally quite high. It was a proper massage parlour rather than a poorly disguised knocking house though a happy ending at the very least was always implied in their service. Sadly, Paul's Place (i.e. both M-Spa upstairs and a lovely antiques' shop downstairs run by the same gang) was closed in early 2019 - to my utter devastation. I'd be very much interested to know if the place has been re-opened: Google says it is only 'Temporarily Closed' now while several months ago it was marked as 'Permanently Closed'. When I was there in November 2019, some preparations for a full refurbishment of the building were taking place (that was long overdue in any case) but, presumably, because of COVID, nothing was happening (as far as I know) for more than two years. It will be a huge shame if Paul's Place is gone for ever as it was a legendary institution of Bali serving the clients for several decades, as I was told at the time. When I was there last time, the price of a 90 min massage was circa IDR 300-400k (proper high-pressure full body massage, done very professionally) with IDR 200-400k expected for the 'extras'. Overall, you should expect to pay IDR 600-700k for the whole experience, which, as I was told, might go up to IDR 1000k or even more if you have some very particular requests. I've never paid more than IDR 700-750k though. To get the most of your experience, it would be most advisable to explain to the manager downstairs (very briefly) what your expectations are, as far as the physical/anatomical characteristics of your masseur are concerned, so that he could point the right guy to you. As soon as you are in the room, it is most advisable to be very direct and, firstly, order the 'extras' in advance of the massage and agree on their details. The boys there never looked too close at the clock and in most cases, delivered what was requested quite well. The selection was also reasonably wide-ranging: up to 4 guys working the shift, mostly in their early 20s but professionally trained as masseurs; once or twice a week, a daddy was there too (mid-40s, good shape, surprisingly well-endowed, good masseur but rather cocky and arrogant). I've never had any problems with them asking for additional tips/more money (sadly, this is rather common in other establishments) as, as a regular client, I was even given a 15% discount from my 2nd or 3rd visit of the season (the discount covers the official price of the massage only, not 'the extras'). You pay for 'the extras' to the boy on copletion and, having had your shower and dressed, you pay for the massage bit at the till on your exit - you can even be given a till receipt, if you need it. Normally, it wasn't necessary to book your time in advance - you just turn up at your pleasure and see if the goods on the display during this particular shift take your fancy. Four-hands massage was also available there (approx. 1.5-2 times the price of a regular massage). Their opening hours were from about mid-day till about 8-9pm the latest, and the last couple of hours were not the best time to turn up as there were only 1 or 2 boys available. Their working hours surprised me first but then it was explained to me that they simply don't want the drunken clientele who could turn up on their way from the restaurant or a bar back to their hotel for a messy quicky as they are difficult to manage. Pretty much any massage parlour I've visited in Kuta and Seminyak operates the same way. They differ only in terms of their interior (some are more upmarket and new, others are less glamourous) and some have more emphasis on massage while others have massage only as an afterthought. I'd strongly recommend go for the former rather than the latter: guys are much more professional there, and you get two services for the price of one (an excellent massage and some good sex to follow). I've never been a huge fan of the Elegantz Spa (I think they simply overcharge for the same service) but if you fancy a more upmarket experience and want to visit a sauna (why would you when you are in the tropics?), then it is the place to go. M2 Spa at Jl. Raya Patitenget would be my preferred choice, under these circumstances, though: in my opinion, they beat Elegantz. Banana Spa and Adam's Apple are on the other side of the spectrum: they are more about sex than about massage and consequently, they don't do either well enough - that's my personal opinion based on my personal experience, of course. Banana Spa position themselves as a club but their concept of a club is an outdoor pool where you are free to splash after your session (why would you?). Adam's Apple is so unremarkable that, while I've been there before, I can hardly remember the experience (it is not necessarily a bad thing, of course). All of these places offer outcalls to your hotels but, in my opinion, it is not worth it: it will be easier and cheaper for you to get a cab to go there by yourself and return back to your hotel. And of course, there is plenty of offer on online apps - disguised as 'massage', mostly. In some cases, they will be professional masseurs but 80-90% of them are not, and what they offer is not worth the money they are asking for it (I am not talking about massage now). Taking them into your room is possible but a bit of a hassle (you'll have to go downstairs to fetch them from the security post at the hotel's entrance). Generally, it is not worth it: just go to one of the (many) massage parlours and have fun safely and cheaply there. I'd be interested to know if anyone has been to XXL Men Spa? What are your impressions? And most importantly, how has the scene changed since 2019? Are M2, Elegantz, Banala Spa, Adam's Apple, etc still open? Are they what they used to be? Or are there any changes? I hope to visit Bali again next year and some up-to-date information will be most helpful. Thank you in advance!

Rumpole of the Bailey, starring Leo McKern as John Mortimer, the real-life criminal barrister and author.

That's the competition nobody wants to win

I think that there have been several queries about the current status of Arena. Having been there recently I can confirm that it is open, but but……. I have been a fan of guys from Arena over more than twelve years. We(BF and I) have found some great guys while visiting there with whom we have gone on to have regular repeats offsite over several years. So, although I hadn’t been there for four years I approached today with some anticipation. However Silom Plaza, where it is located on the third floor, has deteriorated since my last visit, more shops closed and looking run down. It doesn’t really look an inviting place now. Elevator doesn’t work, impression of tumbleweed blowing etc.. Tip: for access the lift at the back of the complex is still working, and pressing Floor Three takes you to the front door of Arena, as I only learnt when leaving! Persisting I climbed the stairs to Arena. Going in I wasn’t impressed, either by the décor which is in a time warp from my first visit, nor by the masseurs who are presented in front of you in jeans after you have sat on the cracked leatherette customer chairs. I have read here of the predilection of some members for the mass murderer look. They should make their way here post haste. Of the twelve choices, three or so would have fit their requirements, three or so were forty going on fifty, and none of the remainder could have been described as either handsome or gym fit. They were just guys next door with all their imperfections. I decided to go ahead anyway interested to see whether the Arena sensual massage techniques had been maintained. Chose a shortish guy built like a brick shit house. Looked like a construction worker who had never been near a gym and without a semblance of a six pack. His smile revealed a prominent front cracked tooth. 1,000 Baht for two hour oil massage. In for a penny....... Up another floor to our room, which was self contained with a shower. All of the décor seemed untouched for a number of years, and I was a bit dubious that the covering of the massage table had been replaced from a previous customer(s). Flashes of monkeypox…….(Tip: Perhaps take your own towel to put on massage table if anxious!) That couldn’t be discussed with Nat, for twas he, as, thinking he might be from Isaan, with a dark complexion and a strong jaw, I asked him twice where his home town was. Having received a confused look the first time, and with the second response being “Two Years”, we settled on non verbal communication for the remainder of the session. Both of us took our clothes off straight away and I produced my own “Pjur” massage silicone cream which safely doubles as a lubricant. Avoiding the awkward transition from massage oil to condoms. My heart sank a bit when within three minutes of the start of the massage his hands had moved to my butt crack and were lightly brushing my arsehole. I expect some serious massage first before moving on, and then at least a little foreplay! It was a false alarm, perhaps a taster. We soon moved back to a really good full body massage starting at the feet and working up the body in a more traditional way. He regularly used an Arena technique that I haven’t come across elsewhere(perhaps I’ve led a sheltered life) which stimulates the area around your cock and ass. It involves running both elbows up the inside of your thighs and somehow feels like your butt is lifted in the air. He also used another, for me, Arena trademark, brushing his fingertips on the surface of your skin as they walk up your body with a barely perceptible touch. Time passes and somehow as part of the massage Nat’s chest is regularly pressing into my back(I am still lying on my front). Towards the end I feel a finger playing with my arsehole, for several minutes, and then a large cock pressing for entry. I point to the condoms that I had brought and which he readily used, although he had none and seemed to be fine to go bareback. He fucked me with enthusiasm while panting(with at least part lust?!) while I was on my stomach. He then pulled out, turned me over and fucked me in the missionary position before again pulling out, removing the condom and repeating several times “coming” “coming”. He then had just about the most vocal orgasm that I have known a thai to have, combined with a series of intense shudders as he came on my stomach. He must have been very horny! He wanted me to come, but I was content already and didn’t need any more “servicing”. Then came almost the most touching and memorable part of the massage. He helped me, an elderly gentleman who had just been pummelled in every way for two hours, gently off the massage table, supporting me to the shower in every way. He was aware and solicitous of the fact that I might not be completely steady on my feet anyway after this experience, and that having oil on my feet made me especially vulnerable. Having escorted me to the in-room shower, he proceeded to join me and soap every inch of my body in a most tender way. I felt five years old! Despite having received his tip in the room, he escorted me every step of the way down stairs and out to the lift, which is why I found out that it was still working. I hope this assists those thinking of visiting Arena, and if it earns Nat an extra client or two, I will be happy for him. I gave Nat B2,000 and the minimum tip is B1,500, so I expect that there are others there who may provide a similar service. All in all it was a memorable experience although not entirely for the reasons I anticipated. Although there was raunch, sleaze even, the tenderness from the masseur, during the massage and afterward, was the feeling that touched me the most.

Since no other pictures of the interior of the new Dream Boy have appeared here, I have just plucked and posted one from that Sawatdee thread (with permission and attribution). It's a lot bigger than the previous location and a big improvement as well without that pillar blocking the stage Source: https://sawatdeenetwork.com/v4/showthread.php?22922-Bangkok-Scene-All-Change-but-Same-Same

From Thai PBS World From Thai PBS World Their Majesties the King and Queen Thursday presided over a royal ceremony to unveil the statue of the late King Bhumibol Adulyadej at the new Chalerm Phrakiat Park in Bangkok’s Dusit district. Thousands of people dressed in yellow along with senior government officials also joined in the ceremony. The Chalerm Phrakiat Park, located on 279 rai of land, is designed as Bangkok’s “new lung” with thousands of new trees to be planted there. It will also serve as a reminder of contributions by the late King and Queen Sirikit the Queen Mother to the Thai society.

Kings Castle is part of the Kings group, they own and run the Girl gogo bars and also had a ladyboy bar, the actual Kings Castle is a girl gogo bar on Patpong 1. My memory has Kings Castle 1 and 2 and they used to have Kings corner. I think at one stage there was also a Kings massage with both girls and ladyboys

I visited Dream Boy at its' new location over the weekend. Others above have accurately described the place. The premises are impressive: Same as when it was Lucky Boy. For a boy bar its' a gigantic size with tiered seating- a bit like theatrical circle and stalls (UK style) with an enormous high ceiling and all seating in front of a grand stage. Comfortable and exciting. I had already been to a few bars and had consumed plenty of booze when I got there to Dream Boy ; quite busy maybe 50-80 customers with about 40-50 boys. Mainly masculine types with a sprinkling of other types. They could improve by getting more twinks. The show was as usual and ok but nothing special. As I had been on a bar crawl that night with a guest in tow I will not reveal how much I spent..... Most of the go go bars are charging 350-400 per drink and as I enjoy my drink, so it was a pricy night out and important at every bar to check the bins carefully and the change. Incidentally off fee is 500 baht. By chatting to the mama san can easily find out which boy does what, etc. Despite a lot I spent, I had a great night and Dream Boy is a fun place: Can recommend! 😀

Those hideous tattoos. A tragedy.

A dear friend passed away today. He has been around on the boards for many years but before that he was a friend. He was brilliant and creative and full of life and energy. He will be missed. He had a stroke last year and several others since. RIP