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From Bangkok Post The young priest, always something of a misfit, chose an unconventional spot to start his preschool: a former pigsty near a slaughterhouse in one of Bangkok’s poorest neighbourhoods. For a fee of a penny or two a day, the Rev Joseph Maier took in children from the most destitute families, teaching them to spell their names in Thai and feeding them what was often their only meal of the day. He also lived nearby, his neighbours the castoffs in the capital: butchers, scavengers, street vendors, professional beggars, thieves and prostitutes. Wooden planks formed walkways over the muddy ground, which turned into polluted swamps during the rainy season. Fifty years later, Father Joe, as the American Roman Catholic priest came to be known by his neighbours, is still there, ministering to the residents of what remains one of poorest neighbourhoods in what is now a modern metropolis. “Nobody wanted me around,” he said in a recent interview. “I was drunk; I was always angry about something, an angry young man. I didn’t fit in.” But in Klong Toey, Father Joe, now 82, found his place in the world, an outcast among outcasts. Continues at https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2415085/father-joe-still-on-a-mission

Geez, if only we knew who started this thread 😗 😂

That's the competition nobody wants to win

We can hear collective sigh of relief of 1 400 000 000 Chinese and 150 000 000 in Russia.

Yes, poor guy doesn,t realize that what he thinks is bulge it,s just a wad od 20 baht notes

A long as off fees and expected tips stay the same I'd let those rich bar owners have their fun.

their coverboy is pretty hot

I think that there have been several queries about the current status of Arena. Having been there recently I can confirm that it is open, but but……. I have been a fan of guys from Arena over more than twelve years. We(BF and I) have found some great guys while visiting there with whom we have gone on to have regular repeats offsite over several years. So, although I hadn’t been there for four years I approached today with some anticipation. However Silom Plaza, where it is located on the third floor, has deteriorated since my last visit, more shops closed and looking run down. It doesn’t really look an inviting place now. Elevator doesn’t work, impression of tumbleweed blowing etc.. Tip: for access the lift at the back of the complex is still working, and pressing Floor Three takes you to the front door of Arena, as I only learnt when leaving! Persisting I climbed the stairs to Arena. Going in I wasn’t impressed, either by the décor which is in a time warp from my first visit, nor by the masseurs who are presented in front of you in jeans after you have sat on the cracked leatherette customer chairs. I have read here of the predilection of some members for the mass murderer look. They should make their way here post haste. Of the twelve choices, three or so would have fit their requirements, three or so were forty going on fifty, and none of the remainder could have been described as either handsome or gym fit. They were just guys next door with all their imperfections. I decided to go ahead anyway interested to see whether the Arena sensual massage techniques had been maintained. Chose a shortish guy built like a brick shit house. Looked like a construction worker who had never been near a gym and without a semblance of a six pack. His smile revealed a prominent front cracked tooth. 1,000 Baht for two hour oil massage. In for a penny....... Up another floor to our room, which was self contained with a shower. All of the décor seemed untouched for a number of years, and I was a bit dubious that the covering of the massage table had been replaced from a previous customer(s). Flashes of monkeypox…….(Tip: Perhaps take your own towel to put on massage table if anxious!) That couldn’t be discussed with Nat, for twas he, as, thinking he might be from Isaan, with a dark complexion and a strong jaw, I asked him twice where his home town was. Having received a confused look the first time, and with the second response being “Two Years”, we settled on non verbal communication for the remainder of the session. Both of us took our clothes off straight away and I produced my own “Pjur” massage silicone cream which safely doubles as a lubricant. Avoiding the awkward transition from massage oil to condoms. My heart sank a bit when within three minutes of the start of the massage his hands had moved to my butt crack and were lightly brushing my arsehole. I expect some serious massage first before moving on, and then at least a little foreplay! It was a false alarm, perhaps a taster. We soon moved back to a really good full body massage starting at the feet and working up the body in a more traditional way. He regularly used an Arena technique that I haven’t come across elsewhere(perhaps I’ve led a sheltered life) which stimulates the area around your cock and ass. It involves running both elbows up the inside of your thighs and somehow feels like your butt is lifted in the air. He also used another, for me, Arena trademark, brushing his fingertips on the surface of your skin as they walk up your body with a barely perceptible touch. Time passes and somehow as part of the massage Nat’s chest is regularly pressing into my back(I am still lying on my front). Towards the end I feel a finger playing with my arsehole, for several minutes, and then a large cock pressing for entry. I point to the condoms that I had brought and which he readily used, although he had none and seemed to be fine to go bareback. He fucked me with enthusiasm while panting(with at least part lust?!) while I was on my stomach. He then pulled out, turned me over and fucked me in the missionary position before again pulling out, removing the condom and repeating several times “coming” “coming”. He then had just about the most vocal orgasm that I have known a thai to have, combined with a series of intense shudders as he came on my stomach. He must have been very horny! He wanted me to come, but I was content already and didn’t need any more “servicing”. Then came almost the most touching and memorable part of the massage. He helped me, an elderly gentleman who had just been pummelled in every way for two hours, gently off the massage table, supporting me to the shower in every way. He was aware and solicitous of the fact that I might not be completely steady on my feet anyway after this experience, and that having oil on my feet made me especially vulnerable. Having escorted me to the in-room shower, he proceeded to join me and soap every inch of my body in a most tender way. I felt five years old! Despite having received his tip in the room, he escorted me every step of the way down stairs and out to the lift, which is why I found out that it was still working. I hope this assists those thinking of visiting Arena, and if it earns Nat an extra client or two, I will be happy for him. I gave Nat B2,000 and the minimum tip is B1,500, so I expect that there are others there who may provide a similar service. All in all it was a memorable experience although not entirely for the reasons I anticipated. Although there was raunch, sleaze even, the tenderness from the masseur, during the massage and afterward, was the feeling that touched me the most.

Since no other pictures of the interior of the new Dream Boy have appeared here, I have just plucked and posted one from that Sawatdee thread (with permission and attribution). It's a lot bigger than the previous location and a big improvement as well without that pillar blocking the stage Source: https://sawatdeenetwork.com/v4/showthread.php?22922-Bangkok-Scene-All-Change-but-Same-Same

9 Teen, quite hit and miss! My bf and I went at the same time for a two hour thai/oil massage. I think it was B1,000 for each of us. While I dropped my massage wear when we moved into the oil section, my masseur would only take off his top, and showed no inclination to do anything other than a hand job. My bf's masseur took everything off when they moved into the oil section, blow jobs were exchanged and both came! Go figure as Mr Trink would say! Premises seemed clean, en suite showers, manager efficient and well spoken in English. Although we did have to encourage him to produce the whole available team(10 or 12) to make our selections, when initially the choice presented was two or three. Prime massage can confirm as good thai massage, both our reports, at B500 for two hours, plus B200 tip, no hanky panky.

I had a chance to travel for one month to Tunisia back in August and sample many of the wonderful young Arab men available. Here are some of my notes: Tunis: When I arrived, the messages on Grindr began to light up considerably. As I did in other countries, I would ask to video chat and most chose not to. It was clear in two instances that the men were contriving something as they insisted that I come to their place in the far rural section of Tunis. I agreed in one instance to meet, but decided to arrive two hours before. I sat at a café and watched the area. The young man in question arrived with four of his friends. The man sat at the bench in the center of the park where he wanted to meet, and his four friends scattered around the park. At that point I got up and took a taxi back to my hotel. I texted the guy and asked why he did not come alone as requested. When I showed him the long-range photo I took, he said he would report me to the police. Obviously, he would not and could not since he had no information. He proved the point that Grindr in Tunisia can be dangerous. I stayed the first week in a tourist hotel on Ave Habib Bourguiba (hereafter AHB) which is the main avenue in Tunis. Guests were not allowed back at the hotel so I had to try other venues. I had stayed in Tunis six times before, and usually frequented the three centrally located movie theatres where there were always some men available for action. Unfortunately, these movie theatres have now become strictly legitimate and do not allow any gay action in them at all. I also tried the Belvedere Park and Tunis Zoo which was where you could usually pick-up men and use the woods. Sadly, there were just families during the day and no men out in the evening. I had previously had good luck at both places. For this trip, I was able to find young guys only by walking the AHB. There are benches all along the central pedestrian section of the Avenue. Get yourself something to drink and just sit and watch the people. Inevitably, there will be some young guys that will walk up, sit down, and start a conversation clearly for money. In three instances I asked where we could go. In all three they took me to one of the theatres. So, while the theatre itself had no guys available, you could go in separately and then find each other in a quiet area. The biggest theatre in Tunisia (over 500 seats and three levels) is right on the AHB and is called Cinéma Le Colisée. I used to have great fun in previous years with guys in the lower section there, but now you need to find and bring your guy from outside. The second place to meet guys is at the corner where AHB crosses Rue de Marseille. Get yourself a coffee at the corner Patisserie Naouri and sit to watch the guys come by. If you smile and want to talk, you will need to get up and go chat as the servers are very careful to not allow bystanders to interfere with guests. The third place to find guys is at the east part of AHB where it meets Place du 14 Janvier 2011 (this is where the famous Clock of Habib is located). Get yourself a coffee from the corner Pomme De Pain and sit to watch all the boys gather in the park next to it. The park is located between the Pomme De Pain and the Café La Fontaine. You can have a conversation with the guys and most will know a place nearby in an alley or side street where you can do the deed. Almost all the guys at the first three places were active, while the guys at the corner park area were active and passive. I later returned on my exit from the country to stay one more week in an Airbnb that had a private entrance. In that case, I took guys back from the third location park with no problem. Sousse: I stayed in an Airbnb with private access. You can easily figure out the places to stay by reading the reviews of places on Airbnb. If a gay had a problem bringing back a guy, you will see that he compliments the owner for the security of the place and the night guard. He likewise compliments the owner for private access to signal to the rest of us the option to bring a guy back. I stayed in Sousse three weeks this time, but have also stayed six times before. The main road for finding guys is along the see wall pedestrian area starting at the northern end on Ave Hedi Chaker (hereafter AHC) where it meets the Hotel Riadh Palms, and then simply walk down the sea wall pedestrian area south past the Place Bou Jaaaar and down the Habeeb Burgioba Street (hereafter HBS) until you get to the Claridge Hotel. I walked that several times a day and you can always find young men. I found guys this time for service at two places. The first was by sitting with other gay men at the famous Café La Sirene at the Place Bou Jaafar. Sit there at the outside covered tables, have yourself an orange juice, and just watch the many many guys that parade by. If you are interested in a guy, you can ask him to join you and the staff will have no problem. The second place is the Café Jus Glaces at the corner of HBS and Rue Palestine. Sit, get a drink, watch the boys, and invite some to sit at your table. Do a google maps search and it will even show you ME sitting at the bar watching the boys go by. The go-to bar for guys keeps changing every year it seems. It used to be a bar on the northern end of Sousse near Mongi Slim, but this time it was closed. As for where to have sex, Airbnb was the way to go this time. I was able to invite many men back with no problems. Now, I did have two guys that showed me ID and they were clearly 19, but they looked much younger and I did not want to risk it. So, I asked THEM where we should go. In one instance the young man had me pay for an unofficial one-hour hotel. It required him to first talk with the clerk with me outside, then he waived me in, I passed the money to the clerk, and off we went to the room for an hour. The same happened with a second guy who took me to another place. I was very cautious because I would not provide my ID to get a room as is normally required by law. So I told the young men that I had no ID and they knew a place to go. It went so well that I always first asked a guy if he knew of a place to go. If they did not, then I would use my Airbnb. Interestingly, several other guys told me they come to Sousse from the rural areas to make some money for a few days. If they don’t get a room, then they have to stay on the streets or in a Hamman. The final place for me was the legit theatre on HBS known as Cinema Le Palace next to the Bar Tapas. This smaller theatre shows legitimate movies and is VERY frequented by couples to make out. However, there always seemed to be at least one guy for sex there in the afternoons that you could meet in the smallest bathroom stall I have ever encountered. Interestingly, the two young men who run the theatre for their family (an old man or old woman always takes the money) were both available for blow jobs when I was there. One is a bit strange with glasses, and the other seems to dye his hair a different color each time I visit. GRINDR: Be warned it can be dangerous. SEX: Most of the guys are active, like to get sucked, will fuck, and many will also kiss. Tunis and Sousse both had passive guys, but they were usually dressed with lipstick and overtly effeminate. As you will note from police reports, Sousse especially has very young guys for trade. In turn, Sousse is very active in arresting those who pay for underage sex. Two German men were arrested the week I was there because one of them took back an underage boy to his apartment and was reported. Stings are the norm and money/bribes will not help out. As one French gay couple told me, there are weekly stings that are set-up precisely to entrap foreigners who prey on the underage there. There are plenty of young boys/guys that are available of legal age. PAY: The street guys usually wanted 30-50 Tunisian dinars ($11-$18 USD) for a quick blow job. When I took a guy back to my place, they usually asked for 50-75 dinars ($18-$27). LANGUAGE: Arab and French, although the boys seem to know German and English as many gay tourists come from Germany and the UK.

Ask the guy who doesn't remember? Chinese. That's what happened. The whole street is being knocked down for more Chinese construction. The landlord of Toolbox wouldn't renew the lease. Toolbox survived COVID.. but It couldn't survive gentrification.

Judging from those forearms he certainly looks like someone who does massage a lot.

Doug is yet to make a move on a new bar. Many of us are praying he does something soon. The complex needs something new. The old formula is failing. As for drink price fixing. Yes, one farang bar owner tried to fix drink prices at 100 baht / beer. Some bars went along with it, others didn't. Complex prices are getting stupid, when you can walk 20 meters to one of the newer "pop up" bars and pay 30 - 40% less for drinks. Greed will be many bars downfall.

I always think Bangkok slums are no where as bad as the Philippines

I agree. Arena is tried and tested. Good service.

Seriously ignorant... Let's discuss how others often smell when they get wet or the hygiene practices of some European countries.... This ignorant person has got to be a TROLL

You are exactly the type that I would ignore...Hopefully the boys that you are paying just don't care about your ignorance...

I’ve had this shop on my short list since I first posted about it and I finally checked it out today. Pleased to give it a 👍. Located directly below the Bang Pho Station on the Blue line (you were right, TMax), it’s the last stop before train crosses the river. Travel time from Silom about 35 minutes. LINE ID: 365theriver Reservations are recommended. They currently have 16 photos to choose from and that’s how I booked my session. In addition to choosing the masseur and time desired in advance, you have the option of selecting a “B2B” type of massage (minimum tip 1,000, without B2B 500). I selected one hour aroma oil (600) and the B2B. I was quite satisfied with my choices. This is a small shop but we’ll maintained and I found it very clean. Rooms on second and third floors with easily negotiable stairs. Rooms have standard massage table with shower down the hall. The service is professional and friendly and my masseur, a 27-year-old Thai, was well trained. Although he spoke no English, we had no problems communicating (when I pointed to him and then the table, he knew immediately that I wanted to trade places). I was given a bottle of water on arrival. After the massage, my guy brought in a small tray with some good warm tea, apple slices and a small wrapped chorale snack. I don’t know if this is standard practice or because it was my first visit but it left a good impression. This is the third shop (out of three) that I’ve traveled some distance to reach and none have disappointed.

Yes we know, it's everybody's dream to live in Russia, specially now. System must be overwhelmed with handling all those crowding embassies around the world begging for residence permits.

Countries that voted against: - Belarus - Nicaragua - North Korea - Russia - Syria Nice company… Anybody wants to live there? Their own citizens certainly don’t

For very many years PAL used to stand for Plane Always Late. The company got really pissed off with this interpretation of its acronym and tried to create anew one of its own - Prompt At Last. I don't think it worked!

Reports of Khaolaguy and Robbi25 confirm what I head from a non-member about this shop. Customer service does not not appear to be a priority. Prior discussion before committing seems like prudent course. I think shops that don’t limit themselves to guys just from one country offer diversity and choices that give them an edge.

We got the miss side of 9-teen last night I’m afraid. No choice of masseur offered, BF’s a Thai massage was not great, my oil was poor, seemed to be going through the motions to quickly get to a uninterested happy conclusion. He kept all his clothes on throughout. No en-suite shower, finished 15 minutes early and asked for tip in the room, wasn’t happy that my bf had our cash so I needed to tip him downstairs. Reading reviews on google it seems that like with many places it really does depend how good your masseur is, we clearly didn’t get the best. I’ll repeat that Prime is the only place I’m aware of which is consistently excellent for massage, but extras are very unlikely.

From Thai PBS World From Thai PBS World Their Majesties the King and Queen Thursday presided over a royal ceremony to unveil the statue of the late King Bhumibol Adulyadej at the new Chalerm Phrakiat Park in Bangkok’s Dusit district. Thousands of people dressed in yellow along with senior government officials also joined in the ceremony. The Chalerm Phrakiat Park, located on 279 rai of land, is designed as Bangkok’s “new lung” with thousands of new trees to be planted there. It will also serve as a reminder of contributions by the late King and Queen Sirikit the Queen Mother to the Thai society.

When you enter my apartment first thing you notice is sizable Brazilian painting of naked native girl. You think it makes me straight? Not disputing that most massage guys are straight, often with wife and kids. One always wonders though, how straight is guy who sports erection as soon as he starts massage. Reader hit the nail - no need for gay or straight labels , all that matters is what happens after door are closed. Never lose hope, there was boy I offed quite a few times , so straight that he did not allow even touch his bum. And yet he succumbed to charms of one of our non-contributing members who let me know because was acting on my recommendation to off him and things went too far so to speak. On next trip guy in question actually professed ( we had great chemistry) that he lost his male virginity and was shocked to find out that he actually liked it. Ever since I consider 'straight" sticker useless when comes to working guys.

Years ago I used to be a regular at Albury massage. The massages and afters were all more than very good. My masseur was gay, had a gay boyfriend, later appeared in gay movies and then moved with his boyfriend to live in Chiang Mai.

Let's observe a moment of silence in memory of Hedda.

Their guys are sexy.

Omg this board is becoming very disgusting! 😂😂🤣

Reminds me situation when one very kissy boy I offed few times in row all of the sudden refused to kiss. When surprised I asked him if my mouth smells he said no, but " you just kissed my hole " was the answer , lesson learned.

I had PC 5 years ago. Thanks to my habit to make yearly blood tests for cancer markers, it was recognized by PCA markers in blood when it was on 2d stage. Since it grows slowly, I had enough of time for MRT and other checks and tests including biopsy and unlimited sex within 1 year (I'm "top only"). My oncologist told what best is prostate removal because tumor was located within prostate capsule and offered robotic operation with saving of penis nerve paths. I spend only 5 days in hospital because robots does surgery via holes in stomach. Indeed length became 1"-1 and 1/4" shorter. Also about 2 weeks after catheter removal (on 10th day) I had small urine leaks when had coughs or during stand up from low chairs, so there were pads in my pants for 2 weeks and I used them 2 week more "just in case". Such pads are invisible (only 2-3 mm thick) for to use, because leaking is just few drops "per case". After surgery I had to make PSA tests every 3 months for to be sure what there are no metastases at fist 3 years, now every 6 month till year 7th, and also yearly KT scanning with contrast. Thanks to nerve saving robotic surgery, I got hardon back in full in 1 year, but had to use Cialis during that first year (first sex was in 3 weeks after surgery). Since prostate is removed, I have no sperm anymore, but have normal orgasms.

my comment below is not directed at you or your guy but just reflection triggered by your post. it did happen more than once for me that guy who was star on one trip lost his luster on the next one for reason known ( usually lost shape or asked for additional money at the wrong moment ) or unknown. It works in reverse too at at times , rarely but it does happen , guy well known from last time clearly tries to avoid my eyesight next trip. One guy when confronted " you don't like me anymore ?" answered honestly that he knows I like Long Time and he can't offer it as he has a job now. of course there's consolation - guys overlooked last time , all of the sudden are attractive this trip. Again sometimes reason is only our better eyesight, sometimes it's more to it i.e. he did not like us last lime so tried not to look engaged , this time bar friend told him we are good guy (speaking human means we tip well but that's only part of reason in some cases) so he wants to get piece of cake too and works harder on his promotion.

"Darius" (Peter) is even shorter. So many of these porn stars are very very short in real life. Makes their dicks look bigger too. And too small to ever "gape".

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having read so many reports and experiences on the forum, I decided it was time to share some of mine. my last trip was in January 2020 prior to the Covid situation staying at the Nile Ritz Carlton, which is not as fun in terms of local guys as it once was. However I managed to get a few encounters, the first at Khan-el-Khalili market, moving from stall to shop to stall, and young guy maybe early 20's stands in my way, he's really cute in his white shirt and jogging pants, "you buy, you buy" he smiles as i look at the trinkets on display in front of the shop, "more inside, very cheap" he smiles as he ushers me inside, the shop is really small, and cute guy is standing very close, i can feel him almost pressing against my side. "You have anything else for sale" i smile as i look down at the bulge he has in his jogging pants, perhaps to check that he knew exactly what i was asking, he replies "you married sir?", i shake my head, and he follows up with "you like egyptian sausage?" i smile, and moments later he has closed the shop door and im on my knees with an egyptian sausage in my mouth!, he cums pretty quickly, but it was a great 200 egyptian pound spent The second encounter was in the hotel itself, i went to the fitness centre, there was a black guy working in there, he has a body of a god, and i cant keep my eyes off him!, he helps me with some of the exercise equipment, and is fairly friendly. I tip him everyday that i am there and on the 3rd day, he sees me enter and comes straight over, we are chatting and again the line "you married sir?" once again i shake my head, but follow it up with "i could do with some company in my room if your interested", he goes quiet on me, and i think i have said to much, then as i leave, i give him an extra large tip, complete with a slip of paper with my room number on it. About an hour later there is a knock at the door, i open it to find black fitness guy stood there, he smiles "can i come in?" he enters, makes a point of telling me he isnt gay and only does this for money. We agree a fee, and then im on my knees with his dick in my mouth, if he wasnt gay before, he certainly tried really hard!, he stayed for maybe 20 minutes and left with 800 egyptian pounds. let me know if you want me to continue with my trip reports, and message me if you want any tips on travelling around north africa!

You are very correct pylonguy71. I have taken some big risks, and if I am totally honest, sometimes I look back at what I have done and think the amount of risk was just foolish, but something inside sometimes makes me take these risks! The episode with the 2 guys in Aswan for example made me reflect what danger I could have easily been in, and for a few days I refrained from doing anything similar, but just like a drug, I go back to my old ways, and the adventure in life continues. As I mentioned previously not everything has turned out how I would have liked, and I have had plenty of refusals, plenty of hostile reactions and plenty of wasted money, but visiting North African countries would not be the adventure it is, with out these experiences. These are just some of the encounters I had in Egypt, but I have also visited Tunisia, Morocco, and Israel and all have there own unique flavour in lives great adventure.

I'm new to this forum and have been enjoying reading all the posts and topics quite a bit. It is nice to be in an arena with like minded guys/interests. I think people should be able to engage in a civil discussion, even when there is disagreement in here without making personal attacks. There really is no need for it!

As someone who has been to Morocco multiple times, I think the OP's observations are spot on. The fact that tourism has exploded in the last decade or so, especially in Marrakech makes the matter worse. You are viewed as simply a conduit for money. Not all Moroccans are like this, but unfortunately, so many are. I would say 80 percent of the guys I hooked up with in Morocco in one way or another engaged in some sort of deceit. As soon as the experience was finished, that is when the shoe drops and they come at you from left field either wanting money, even if no money exchange was discussed at all, or they are wanting more than agreed to. I had two experiences where the guy refused to leave the place until I gave him more than what was bargained for. It then became an almost endless haggle to agree upon an amount just to get them out of the place. Let alone pretty scary actually. You have someone in your apartment, that shouldn't even be there whom you don't know and who you can't report unless you are willing to be scrutinized yourself for doing someone in a country that Is strictly forbidden. This leads me to why Morocco is so tricky in these instances. Homosexuality is illegal. There are no rights and you can go to jail for practicing it. Hotels will not allow unregistered guests in. They are not legally allowed to do this. Any stories of a hotel 'allowing' or turning a blind eye to this I would look to with suspicion. There are a lot of legal risks for a hotel to allow a foreigner to host some hot Moroccan man. So that leads to really the only viable solution for a foreigner to host a Moroccan and that is in an apartment Most buildings have security/guardsman so depending on that person will mean the difference between being able to host in your apartment or not. Sure you could bribe security but its a risk. There are a few places you can get with no security or guardsman. This is the easiest way to ensure you'll have no problem even getting a guy into your place (hopefully no prying eyes are watching), but it is also the most risky because you are most vulnerable and the guy knows this. Some unfortunately will take advantage. If you don't give them what they want they will use this against you. They'll tell you homosexuality is illegal, they'll refuse to leave without an outrageous amount of money and yes, some are willing to be violent about it. So who has more to lose. Well the OP got into that well. You need to have a steely nerve to deal with some of them and they are used to a hard life and using hard tactics. I've been to a few dozen countries and have met men in pretty much all of them and nowhere else have I had as many negative experiences with local men, be it escorts or just men in general than in Morocco. For me, i'm done with it. Simply isn't worth all the effort and there is a real risk of having a really bad experience with a guy and you are completely vulnerable. So - it is too bad because Moroccan men are among the most beautiful in the world and they are usually very well equipped, but all the difficulties and anxiety associated with it for me is no longer worth it.

It’s fair - and I’d guess, usual - to ask about bottom/top/versatile. The rest seems inappropriate to me @Kieran. You would ordinarily ask about these matters in private with the guy you’ve chosen. No manager can know exactly what each guy will do or not do in private. My ‘take’ on your report is that perhaps the manager thought you were a guy who just wanted to talk about sex, look at the guys and then possibly not hire, ie a time-waster. It would explain the unusual request for money upfront. I’m glad the money was readily returned to you before you left.

Personally, when I'm in London again I shall rejoice that safe sex practices are still in force. I am protected when the boys are protected.

Never got asked the money upfront. Did you give a vibe that you might not want to pay, or not be able to? Or maybe you had a new temporary manager who didn’t know how to handle this. As for asking to get rimmed or to get sucked without condom, I never bothered to ask before the sex, all I want is to fuck the guy, so I ask for a bottom guy and that’s it for me, we are good to go. Gonorrhoea is rampant among clients these days and easily transmitted through oral sex. It is not easily detected for several days after you contracted it, especially in the throat. There is a strain that is currently resisting all antibiotics, even ceftriaxone. I am not that surprised that they are trying to protect their boys from it, and by proxy, that also protects their clients, if the boys can’t contract it, they can’t give it to their clients.

I'm a local. Better than Grindr is the Israeli app - atraf. It's in Hebrew, but there's an English version. Most Israeli escorts are notorious for their service attitudes. They live in dingy apartments, demand payment upfront, and then rush you to cumming ASAP. There's one good sauna, and a lesser sex club. No hustlers there, at least not visible/noticeable.

Below is a link with photos that show the apartment house where Villa Gianni is located in London, U.K. You can see, the apartment building is large. Can anyone imagine what the neighbors in the building would say or do if there were a sign on the door advertising a brothel? Over the years, the facility built a "word of mouth" reputation and has remained in business many years without advertising. The street number is clearly marked and it is sufficient. Each apartment in the building is clearly marked with a number. In the case of this place, it is number 32 - https://www.google.com/maps/place/32+Nevern+Pl,+Earls+Court,+London+SW5+9PP,+UK/@51.4927749,-0.1962592,3a,60y,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s24zfAQZgpA1eMzw3yF_b_A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!4m13!1m7!3m6!1s0x48760f8cdbfa9df9:0x2c7a75ae254e3497!2s32+Nevern+Pl,+Earls+Court,+London+SW5+9PP,+UK!3b1!8m2!3d51.4928707!4d-0.1963105!3m4!1s0x48760f8cdbfa9df9:0x2c7a75ae254e3497!8m2!3d51.4928707!4d-0.1963105

Not all computers behave equally. Not all OSs behave equally. I have Mac and PC at the office. At home, it's all Mac. I did not check Planet Romeo on the PC until today. There is no warning pop-up window when using my PC.

My phone and computers never show that warning either. Planetromeo has been around for years. There is no problem of being hacked from that site.

Never heard of Romeo or Hunqz ever coming up with that.

There are a lot of guys on the apps advertising massages etc who are escorts. If you go to Mixwell or Bali joes in seminyak you will probably find company for free or a few drinks if you like. These bars have dancers and often the dancers will go home with you / escorts (you can subtly ask the bar staff for an introduction). There are also quite a few all male massage places and most will provide a happy ending or more (I was unexpectedly fucked on the massage table Paul’s place). m2 spa and antique are my favorite places for male massage (great quality massage). The place where massage is secondary and more sex oriented is banana spa. The typcically have a bunch of guys and then stand in front on you and you choose. On the non sex front I would recommended Sunday’s beach club for a day trip and dinner st el Kabron. have a great time. ! Oh in terms of costs a massage will costs you ewuavialet to us$15 - us$30 at the place I mentioned (more st banana) and if you get a happy ending a tip around $20 would be expected

About 3 years ago, I met a young Spaniard who had worked there for one Summer. He'd come to London to improve his English and to study dance. He was 21, dark good looks with a fit, muscled body. He was a good bottom, a decent cocksucker and had a submissive streak. I mention all this to put in context his remarks to me. He said he was very successful at VG. He simply turned up one evening just as they were about to open and told the manager he'd like to work there. The manager gave him an appointment for the following day. In the interview, there was no 'casting couch' but he was asked about what he was willing to do in bed...and also asked if there were things he did not do. He started work there that evening. He told me that the management was very honest: clients often left tips for him with the manager and he was paid them in full. He also said that clients asked for repeat-sessions and also asked for his number to date him outside VG. He preferred to work only at VG as he did not want the hassle of organising dates and visiting clients in their homes, even for the higher fees offered. As you may suspect, Evan24, he defined the key elements for success as being punctual for the required shifts and being able to service various clients as required. FWIW what he told me almost exactly echoed what Enzo, a young Brazilian/Italian, told me about VG 6 years before. (Enzo was a strikingly handsome 22 year old with a beautiful physique. He was sexually versatile and I had an affair with him for a year, after he left VG. He had worked there for 6 months to finance getting himself established in London). As to your last question, the law is complex but its enforcement is relaxed. Street-work is punished, and is extremely rare in London. Public sex acts are also punished. The police do not bother with guys advertising online and meeting men for sex privately.