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That's bizarre. In just two sentences you are suggesting that Thai boys are scammers hoping Cambodians are less so and all you say to substantiate that scamming is that you feel for Thai boy and it was worth it. neither ones are angels ( some are !) but in reality how many times you were victim of scamming by boys of any nationality in Thailand ? I hardly call refusing to kiss or bottom even if promised to ' do everything " scam but even so , how often it happens ? we are coming to Thaliand because it's Land of Smiles not Land of Scams. Otherwise why we'd bother ?

Just out of curiosity, how do you know that? Didn't he eat and manage to survive all his life until you came into the picture? If he really ends up in the street, which I doubt, why is that your problem? And what's his problem about finding a job? Assuming he is in Pattaya, plenty of jobs are available now. Of course, as long as you are supporting him, what does he need a job for? Your heart may be in the right place, but don't be surprised if the reality turns out that you are being had, which is exactly what I think. My free, unsolicited advice would be not to just suddenly cut him off, but give him enough to support himself for a month or two and let him know this is it. This is the last I'm giving. There will be no more. Your choices are find a job, join the military, or become a monk, but once this money runs out, you're on your own.

I came to Pattaya in 1995 hoping to meet twinks in the 18-23 age group. I soon discovered that older guys were more technically proficient and spoke better English, transforming a forty minute transaction into a couple of hours which included chatting over a drink. I learnt a lot from them. Overall, better value.

And no doubt the popiticians and their cronies have been buying up the land to sell back to the state at a vastly inflated price! Kunming will be a great destination, though, from Bangkok. Yunnan has some specatcular sights for tourists whenever tourism opens up again. Five years ago I went to Dali, the wonderful old town in Lijiang ending with a stay outside Shangri La (Zhongdian) with its stunning Tibetan Ganden Sumsteling monastery, arguably the finest outside Tibet and often called the Little Potala Palace.

Still like chicken here but bigger nuts are hot too…

This happened in Thailand during current monsoon.

From Time Out / Thaiger Yaowarat Road in Samphanthawong district is the main artery of Bangkok’s Chinatown. Modern Chinatown now covers a large area around Yaowarat and Charoen Krung Road. It has been the main center for trading by the Chinese community since they moved from their old site some 200 years ago to make way for the construction of Wat Phra Kaew and the Grand Palace. Yaowarat Road is well known for its variety of foodstuffs, and at night turns into a large street food destination that draws tourists and locals from all over the city. Time Out said… “Lined with neon signs and bustling day or night, this cultural hub is home to temples, restaurants, markets, and legions of acupuncturists and dispensers of Chinese medicine. “It’s been a street food lovers’ favorite for generations, but lately the area has seen cool galleries and high-end restaurants move in too, keeping Yaowarat as relevant and culturally diverse as the day it was paved.” London-based Time Out magazine named Yaowarat Road the eighth coolest street in the world after polling readers about post-pandemic life in their city. Over 20,000 people took part in the poll which asked readers to base their ranking on food, fun, culture, and community. Yaowarat Road in Samphanthawong district is the main artery of Bangkok’s Chinatown. Modern Chinatown now covers a large area around Yaowarat and Charoen Krung Road. It has been the main center for trading by the Chinese community since they moved from their old site some 200 years ago to make way for the construction of Wat Phra Kaew and the Grand Palace. The top 10 coolest streets in the world are: Rue Wellington in Montreal Gertrude Street in Melbourne Great Western Road in Glasgow Yongkang street in Taipei Værnedamsvej in Copenhagen, which I’ve likely butchered Karangahape road, Auckland, New Zealand which I’ve probably also butchered Tai Ping Shan street in Hong Kong Yaowarat Road, Bangkok Oranienstrasse in Berlin And Hayes Street in San Francisco https://thethaiger.com/news/national/thailand-news-today-bangkok-street-food-destination-in-top-10-coolest-streets-in-the-world

I thought after only 7 years experience of Thailand (Living here full time for 5 years) I was still naive when it comes to boys and their games. While I don't know @Gaybuttonpersonally, he seems to be the voice of reason around here. Generally speaking I don't believe these boys are trying to scam you. They are trying to work your feelings and lust to earn money, too pull themselves out of poverty. Are the Khmer boys different? Yes - They still do it with a smile.

thank for encouragement .Last night I had moment thinking I should binge watch it till morning but sanity prevailed. "Not Me' is my next project. I need some manly series after sugary "Cute Pie". "Together with me " and "Dark Blue Kiss" are my favorite of all time so far with " Until we Meet Again " (best music ) trailing closely.

We'll have to wait and see what Japan did last month. But Dirksen sure did have a way with words 😄

I see nothing wrong with helping if that's what you want to do. The trick is to set the limits at the outset and be prepared for him to try everything he can think of to keep the money rolling in. There are two ways to do it: 1. Give him a substantial amount once - just once. Make it clear that is all you will do and he is not to ask for more for any reason. I would again make it clear if he violates that, then he won't get it and the communication ties will be cut. When he runs through that money, now he's on his own. Let the onus be on him, not you. It may be difficult to stick to that, nevertheless it must be done. I think that's the easiest way. 2. At the outset let him know you will help him for whatever period of time you choose. Once a month for one month, two months, six months, a year - whatever you decide. Tell him how much you'll give him and not one baht more. Again, let him know when that time has ended, it will stay ended and, again, after that he's on his own. If he tries to get you to give more and/or extend the time period, the moment he does that any further money will stop. Unless you are willing to take financial responsibility for his life, I don't know any other way to handle it - or at least no other way I would handle it. It is one thing to be generous and willing to help somebody. It is quite another to let yourself become a schmuck. You have to be firm. If you can't do that then you're right - don't help him in the first place. Besides, you're not really doing him any favors by removing the incentive to support himself. Don't forget, your name is Olddaddy (or whatever name he knows you by). Your name is not ATM . . .

We are about to reward Japan with inflated dollars worth much less...I believe they recently woke up to this game and stopped buying our debt. "A trillion here and a trillion there and pretty soon you're talking real money"...to paraphrase Everett Dirkson.

How about that! Walking Street became Running Street . . .

Together with "Not me" the best this year and in top ten of all time.

You guessed right. Of course he will keep asking. Why shouldn't he? He has nothing to lose by trying. While you might be curious as to what happens to him, do you think you would get a truthful answer from him and can believe what he tells you? You might get an interesting new set of sob stories, but that's all. When you're dealing with a money boy who got used to being financially supported by a well meaning farang, try as I might, looking at it from his point of view, I can't come up with one good reason why he would stop trying. Again, my free, unsolicited advice is to do as I recommended in my post above - and then cut all contact with him. If you don't, who do you think would prevail in the end - the farang or the boy? It may hard to cut all contact, but continuing contact is very likely to end up being much harder.

Keep watching!! You will not be disappointed... 🤩

I started watching KinnPorshe on DailyMotion and must say after 1st episode I like it very much. Bit brutal and bloody and I'm afraid it will be worse in next episodes but action is fast and not a boring moment. Even melodramatic scenes have good pace and before we have a chance to get teary , there's some fast action. I don't particularly like guy playing Kinn but one Porsche is handsome like hell, one of manliest men in the industry. Can't wait for their first kiss ! Hope I won't be forced to change my mind after watching next episodes. Glad to see Perth Nakhum of Ram fame from 'My engineer" in episodic role as I happen to be fan of him, more Ram than Perth though

I am still into younger guys. But I will say that one of the top massage experiences I ever had was at the old Fan Club in Bangkok with a guy who was probably mid- to late- 30s. Compact, well-toned body, a little bit muscular. Quite relaxed and friendly attitude. Spoke a good amount of English. Fantastic erotic massage technique. Certainly having some experience is quite useful. It was unfortunate that it was my last afternoon in town that trip because I would have happily seen him again.

somewhat surprisingly to myself on the last trip I noticed taste change but not one we are talking about. For years my favorite dish here , consumed more or less daily was chicken with cashew nuts. In May , all of the sudden I developed taste for schnitzels in various forms and was regular at G'Bangkok in soi 4 and while in Pattaya in DasBerliner. Long suppressed longing for Mom's cooking I guess ? As for OP this is nor surprising , when one is 30 , 40 y.o. MB is 1/3 older. At 60, 40 y.o. MB is 1/3 younger , quite a difference so it's not surprising you noticed change. I, for one, never was particularly fond of skinny twinks and I still like muscular older , like 25-35 guys , no change here at all but what I noticed over years is that I like longer sessions more and more. Like subconsciously I realize time is getting shorter and shorter so it needs to be utilized better and better. Or perhaps with age I just like guys more and more ?. When offing guys short time I start voicing conditions ' 2 hours minimum ".

The NACC has been a toothless tiger for decades. Some of its own members have also been accused of being unusually wealthy. The present acting Prime Minister Prawit Wongsuwun, then a member of the NACC, was accused in a much publicised affair of having a large number of undeclared expensive wrist watches. The President of the NACC promised a "professional, transparent inquiry" in January 2018. But the President had earlier been a subordinate of Prawit! By August 2018 with this seemingly simple Inquiry still far from complete, the Prime Minister removed Prawit from the NACC. That December Prawit was cleared of wrongdoing by the NACC! The basis of the decision was that he had allegedly only borrowed them! Earlier in the 2000s there was a major scandal over the founding of the Bangkok FIlm Festival. In a 2007 case in the USA a pair of producers who worked for the Festival were jailed in 2010 for having given kickbacks to the Governor of the Tourism Authority of Thailand, Jutamas Siriwan, and her daughter which the TAT ran from 2003 to 2006. Even though the US Dept. of Justice had provided Thailand with all the evidence, the NACC took FIVE years to complete its own investigations! At least in this case Jutamas and her daugher were finally charged and given multi-decade jail terms. SInce the military coup in 2014 activists have accused the regime of numerous cases of nepotism. One involved corruption in the construction of the billiion baht Rajabhaki Park Complex in Hua Hin built by the army. The NACC disimissed all such cases. More instances of this country having a very different set of laws for the rich and elite!

I see prostate cancer in men has risen . Please guys go get a PSA blood test and a rectal exam. The last few days I have noticed increased urination myself I'm thinking possibly prostate cancer and have booked in to see a Urologist next week!!! Please ask your doctor for a PSA blood test ASAP to determine your prostate level . Look to be honest it appears going by Google they can't do anything anyway if you have the cancer but least they can slow it down . I have booked in with a young Asian urologist which will cost me around $400 but better to be safe than sorry . He will do the physical rectal anal exam of putting his finger in my bum to feel my prostate .

I just came to this thread and would merely advise that everyone who's sexually active obtain the vaccination. In my county in California, I contacted its health department. The folks never returned my calls, so I contacted a health agency in San Francisco and drove there on my day of appointment and received the vaccination against M-pox. During these times of both covid and Pox, I'd be fully vaxxxed before engaging, but in the end, it's your call, and I am being fully non judgmental.

In case he run into boy who ask him for 10,000 for LT.

"Tomorrow in my birthday."

Agate's prices at the moment are good value. I paid 1000 pn last month; and I'm paying 1,200 for my next trip (for which I cannot wait!) in November. No breakfast though; we ate at Zing. Charming staff there too! Agate's public areas are 4* plus, if that's important to you. They are to us. P and I would gaze at and appreciate all the exhibits in the glass cases in the corridors. Other Agate guests will know what I mean! And its two pools are a blessing if sprogs appear.... P and I always had the sea-water one to ourselves. As I always say, don't use Agoda or Booking; book direct with the hotel. Much cheaper.

too bad that night visit would come at expense of Patpong / Silom bar visit but I need to brave myself one night

And here I have already broken a cardinal rule of Thailand. Don’t tell them when you are leaving. Yesterday his girlfriend is needing to go to the doctor and he is visiting the hospital today.

True in my case on my pre-covid trip. To use the shuttle from bkk to dmk, i were asked to show my flight booking before allowed boarding the shuttle

Half presumably are girls, half boys.

Oh I did last week ,$400 later . He put a camera in my nose ,yep in my nostrils,1 minute then down my throat didn't feel a thing . Nothing wrong he said ,a few callous type tonsil stones he said but nothing to worry about ,lessen eating " hard" foods he said I guess it was all the "hard" dicks I sucked deep throated hitting the back of my throat 😂

There's a designated gay-friendly bar (about 50% gay). We've socialized with mostly gay couples, but to a lesser extent with straight couples. This virus isn't spread with fomites/shaking hands, as proven by a study which came out almost exactly 2 years ago. If you don't shake hands, do so for viruses other than Covid (Norovirus almost certainly can be spread this way, possibly rhinoviruses as well--though that hasn't been studied). As I'm sure you're aware, there's a huge number of illnesses one can get from sucking dick and eating as... 😉

I can say my tastes haven't changed but my thoughts about what I would like to try have changed a little bit (or developed further) but that will stay under wraps until my next trip and I get to try one or two things I have been thinking about. I still go for the fit toned type of guy and never really went for either the skinny or big muscle types. Short times with the massage guys (tops) is still my preference but longer time is possible with the right guy, also I still have a fondness for 4 hands massage and have the guy I choose to select the second guy. Food tastes remain pretty much the same too, G's Bangkok I like to visit a few times per trip, likewise The Mango Tree on Soi Tantawan.

The attached Bangkok Poat article from 13 months ago suggests that 90% of Filipinos are circumcised "for non-religious reasons." This implies that Muslim and Jewish boys have to be added to the 90%. WIth 5.57% of the population being Muslims, that adds around 2.78% more boys. It seems the number of Jewsh boys would be insignificant. So the chance of finding a non-circumcised boy will be slim. I suspect most purely ethnic Chinese boys (roughtly estimated at 700,000) will not be circumcised whereas those of mixed Filipino/Chinese decent will. https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/2173455/philippine-circumcision-season-underway-after-virus-delays

Benjamit is still open and doing well.

1500, some guys at BBB may want more

@olddaddy, you start conversations on very interesting topics that generate a lot of discussion! I am one of those "loners" who has accepted my way of life and I am definitely not tricking myself. I prefer that lifestyle. I do have friends and family that I talk to and meet up with on a regular basis. I also travel often and have "fun" during those travels, especially when in Thailand. "Like I said if I wanted love ,I probably look at the Philippines again where it seems to me going by my experience Filipino young guys are really into Daddies." I have met a few Filipino guys during my travels and talked to them at length. Yes, many are into daddies. The ones I talked to want to be in such relationships so that they are looked after financially and may even be able to move to the country where the Daddy lives. It's also somewhat of a prestige thing for some, since their friends are already in such relationships. "Getting back onto Filipino boys as boyfriends they seem to be more caring,a lot are nurses in the West in nursing homes etc caring for elderly and great at housework and hardworking" A great number of nurses and care aides - girls and boys - in Canada are Filipino. Couple of my family members were in nursing homes and most of the staff there were Filipino. They took good care of the residents and worked hard. Unfortunately, these (care aides) are not very well paid jobs, but it does give them "Canadian experience", and after sometime they can become citizens. Many continue to upgrade their skills while working to become nurses (from aides) and RN after becoming nurses.

This is a very complex subject. First of all, there are countless (well, quite a few) conditions which cause an increase in urination, only some which involve the prostate at all. If the prostate is involved in increased urinary frequency, it's because the prostate is preventing you from emptying your bladder completely. The other symptoms which will go along with that are what are called "obstructive symptoms": straining while urinating, a less forceful urinary stream, a sense you aren't completely emptying your bladder, and dribbling after you finish, for example. Other symptoms might point to alternative diagnoses. Irritation and urgency would be more suggestive of infection, for example, and increased thirst and/or volume of urine would be more suggestive of diabetes (of which there are different types, including non-sugar related types). Blood in the urine would suggest either bladder infection or bladder cancer as a cause. Even within the prostate, there are different prostate-related causes, with non-cancerous growth and prostate infection being more common than the (still common) prostate cancer. Getting a PSA level checked is certainly a good idea for men over 45 or so with urinary symptoms, especially if the symptoms are obstructive. That being said, this does NOT mean it's a good idea for men without symptoms to get PSA levels checked on some sort of routine level. I would urge board members reading this to get their health advice from public health officials whose job it is to evaluate all of the scientific facts, instead of relying on emotional stories or discussions. https://www.uspreventiveservicestaskforce.org/uspstf/recommendation/prostate-cancer-screening Benefits of Early Detection and Treatment The goal of screening for prostate cancer is to identify high-risk, localized prostate cancer that can be successfully treated, thereby preventing the morbidity and mortality associated with advanced or metastatic prostate cancer. Adequate evidence from randomized clinical trials (RCTs) shows that PSA-based screening programs in men aged 55 to 69 years may prevent approximately 1.3 deaths from prostate cancer over approximately 13 years per 1000 men screened.3, 4 Screening programs may also prevent approximately 3 cases of metastatic prostate cancer per 1000 men screened.3 Current results from screening trials show no reductions in all-cause mortality from screening. There is inadequate evidence to assess whether the benefits for African American men and men with a family history of prostate cancer aged 55 to 69 years are different than the benefits for the average-risk population. There is also inadequate evidence to assess whether there are benefits to starting screening in these high-risk groups before age 55 years. Adequate evidence from RCTs is consistent with no benefit of PSA-based screening for prostate cancer on prostate cancer mortality in men 70 years and older. Harms of Early Detection and Treatment The harms of screening for prostate cancer include harms from the PSA screening test and subsequent harms from diagnosis and treatment. Potential harms of screening include frequent false-positive results and psychological harms. One major trial in men screened every 2 to 4 years concluded that, over 10 years, more than 15% of men experienced at least 1 false-positive test result.5 Harms of diagnostic procedures include complications of prostate biopsy, such as pain, hematospermia (blood in semen or ejaculate), and infection. Approximately 1% of prostate biopsies result in complications requiring hospitalization. The false-positive and complication rates from biopsy are higher in older men.3 Adequate evidence suggests that the harms of screening and diagnostic procedures are at least small. PSA-based screening for prostate cancer leads to the diagnosis of prostate cancer in some men whose cancer would never have become symptomatic during their lifetime. Treatment of these men results in harms and provides them with no benefit. This is known as overdiagnosis, and follow-up of large randomized trials suggests that 20% to 50% of men diagnosed with prostate cancer through screening may be overdiagnosed.3 Overdiagnosis rates would be expected to increase with age and to be highest in men 70 years and older because older men have high risk of death from competing causes. Harms of prostate cancer treatment include erectile dysfunction, urinary incontinence, and bothersome bowel symptoms. About 1 in 5 men who undergo radical prostatectomy develop long-term urinary incontinence requiring use of pads, and 2 in 3 men will experience long-term erectile dysfunction. More than half of men who receive radiation therapy experience long-term sexual erectile dysfunction and up to 1 in 6 men experience long-term bothersome bowel symptoms, including bowel urgency and fecal incontinence.3 Adequate evidence suggests that the harms of overdiagnosis and treatment are at least moderate. Adequate evidence shows that the harms of screening in men older than 70 years are at least moderate and greater than in younger men because of increased risk of false-positive results, harms from diagnostic biopsy, and harms from treatment. Before consenting to screening (which is different from testing when there are symptoms), it's important to be aware of both the potential benefits of screening (which, if you read the USPSTF, are quite minimal), as well as the potential harms--which are numerous and much more likely. So, yes, the original poster should probably get a PSA done due to his symptoms (especially if they're obstructive), and I hope he keeps us updated. However, the takeaway message should NOT be that all men over 50 should rush in and get this testing. There are some pretty significant harms that can come from screening, especially since the vast majority of prostate cancers never affect the life of the man who has it. There is a massive amount of science which has looked into this question, and professionals have spent large amounts of time actually reviewing the data.

And in Myanmar in the evening the workers shower right next to the street. That makes them look even more sexy! Not as sexy as in my bed though ...

Indeed they are not. Love is placing the other person's well being on a par with your own. It's being emotionally available as a confidant and friend. It's accepting the other person's foibles as he accepts yours. It's taking joy in each other's company. It's mutual affection and trust. It's the realization that you are unquestionably happy and fulfilled when you are together. I've found that I need that experience in my life. And I agree that it has nothing whatsoever to do with sex.

In my experience, sex is fun while love can be very painful indeed. I honestly do not recommend it. If it happens, as it did to me, welcome it as a privilege but don't expect it to be as much fun as an hour with a MB. And it will be more costly- and I'm not just talking about money.

This forum regularly sees members unabashedly post about fucking boys, sucking boys, kissing boys and rimming boys. Odd how when someone suggests loving boys the naysayers come out of the woodwork. Just saying.

when GW Bush was elected did we expect that next president will be black ? And when he was elected did we expect that next one will be Orange Overlord ?

A pretty recent picture shot from Mahanakhon Tower.

I've always thought of CNN as centrist. For the left's perspective, I think most would think of MSNBC. For the right's perspective, FOX would go as far as to intentionally "report" information they know to be factually incorrect. As far as I know, MSNBC doesn't intentionally report false information, but they do constantly comment on the information they report from their perspective. CNN seems to mostly just report the news with minimal comment, as far as I can tell (though I don't view/listen to CNN that often).

Although that is not my experience; during my transition in sexual tastes I spent several years and several trips in the company of ladyboys and the vast majority were lovely people just trying to make a $ like everybody else in the city. Over the last decade or more I have spent time with girls, ladyboys and boys in Thailand and the vast majority were friendly and, within the limits of my interactions with them, trustworthy. Obviously there are a small minority of all genders that are not to be trusted and/or are prone to violence. but thankfully they are a very small minority. I feel far safer walking the streets of Pattaya at night than I would do my home city of Birmingham here in England!

Some people seem to think that would work to get people to stop sucking a hundred cocks and eating asses until they're worried sick about throat cancer...... but I doubt it 😉😝

I know a 25 year old ripped Burmese boy who works at a car wash in the day who I think you would like an introduction to. He hangs around 69 Bar in Jomtien Complex, but doesn't officially work there.

On the corner directly opposite the entrance to The Agate.......there is no sign. It is a cheap restaurant with mainly Cambodian community

I just returned from a trip to Egypt. It was on my way to my destination, so I decided to add a stopover in Egypt for a week to explore. 1. Markets: It was very hard to arrange anything. Each shop is next to each other and publicly visible so I am not sure how one can just close the shop and do the deeds...Maybe @Santiagodc can enlighten us? 2. Aswan: It is dead if you are looking for a hot young guy. The boat drivers are all old and there are some young (youngish) horse drivers but very limited. Most of them are skinny guys, not very clean and no place to do, so it was somewhat disappointing for me. I was told that the most young guys moved to north (i think they mean Luxor). This is probably because Aswan doesn't attract as many tourists as luxor. There was one guy who was my type. He looked more like a mix of sudanese and egyptian, nice body: slim but toned with curvy black arse. The funny part is that after arriving at Aswan late at night, I decided just to walk on cornich to see the scene, not to do anything because it was late and I was tired after a long trip. But this guy (mixed looking guy) asked me if I wanted a ride while passing by me and I said no because I really didn't wanna deal with price negotiation at that time. He stopped his horse carriage a bit ahead of my direction and started walking toward me and I noticed he was touching his pen!s casually, as if most guys just do it but quite noticeable for me. He asked for me a ride for free and I said no and then i stopped me on cornice and asked me to touch his stuff down there. I was just shocked because it was on cornice so I said no with a smile and looked around. He then took me to his carriage and he sat on the carriage and showed his stuff on street. it was somewhat hidden but quite visible for anyone who would pay attention. he said I can suck him there and I said no but he asked me to sit inside the carriage and he sat in front of me. I asked for his price and he said 200, which is like 5usd so i sat there and he pulled cover over me and gave me his stuff, in the middle of the cornish road. I sucked and he came within a minute. I liked it as an experience because I did it in front of everything on cornish, otherwise it was not worth. He got my number and asked me to come back next day for full sex and I got it. Then he took me to his friend, who was not my type and recommended him. I just refused and went to my hotel. Next day, he said he has a place and if he fucks me he has to pay for the place, that was 400 and plus 200 for the sex, total of 600. I said yes and he took me with his carriage. Guess what, he stopped at a mosque with a big ground around it and jumped over the fence and asked me to do the same and I followed him to the mosque area. In the ground around the mosque, there was a small empty house, which looked like a guard post under construction and he asked me to do the deed inside there. Trash were everything and it was dark and visible from outside but it was dark and no one was around. He fucked me but it was quick. Again I did it for the experience but not the sex was not good. So I didn't meet him again, though he called me almost million times...Next day, it was so hot, so I changed my plan to explore the city and opened up grindr. Very few guys there and I can easily see guys in Luxor...One of them contacted me and sent me his face pictures etc. I was kinda shocked and thought he sent a fake picture but he was good looking, slim toned guy. I asked him if I can invite him to my hotel, he said in egypt it is not possible but he invited me to his place. Well, it was a day, so i took a cab to his place and he was real....I kinda thought there is a possibility of robbing me but it was a day time in a residential area, so I thought I could seek for help easily. He took me upstairs and we did it in an apartment under construction...I don't know how it works but in the same building, some apartments are completed and people live and some are still under construction without windows...And we did it there and he put some blankets on the floor. It was not that bad as a bed but no toilet facility and people could see us because there was no window...But hey, free sex with a decently hot guy, it was totally worth the risk. I think this sex itself made my trip to aswan worthwhile. The rest was boring: boat drivers are grandpa level old, camel riders are extremely ugly and old or a little child. Some hot guys in the market but they didn't have a shop and didn't have an eye contact with me... 3. Luxor. The market had the same issue as 1 and the sellers are more aggressive there. Luxor has a lot more young guys there but the boat drivers were generally older (daddy level oldness, not grandpa). I think this is because I actually saw a lot more tourists in luxor than aswan. One decently looking guy asked me to take his horse ride for 50 EGP for an hour, I said why not. He kept driving me around without any hint of doing the deed, so I was kinda surprised...But after 20min ride, he stopped at a barber shop and another guy jumped into the carriage. Apparently they share the carriage and this hot was just all over me. As soon as he hopped in, he shake hand and kept caressing my hand without releasing...He was too skinny for my taste but he had a charming smile and decent face, so I kept talking to him and I wanted to know how things work in Luxor. He took me to a house (yes a proper house, proper bed, and proper toilet) and we did it there for 400. The most surprising part was that he didn't care about the people in the house. Many people saw us entering and walking around the house and we used one big room with toilet, so I am guessing everyone else there knew what was going on haha. Surprisingly he lasted quite a bit, so I am guessing he is used to it. Anyway, that was fun and he offered me many things and I said i will think about it. Next day, I explored the cornish and market and boat. More or less the same issue. Luxor horse riders are young but mostly skinny guys, so not my type. Boat drivers are older than my preferred type, market guys are hard to close the deal, so I decided to enjoy the touristy stuff. 4. Cairo. I had a very low expectation for Cairo because of this forum information. a. hotel staff: none of them were my type, either old or too skinny. So I decided to go to the gym. I stayed in two hotels in Cairo, both 5* with a proper gym. First hotel had a gym instructor who is kinda hot but he didnt speak english at all. I was the only person there and I wanted to make some conversation via google translate but he didn't give me any hint so I decided not waste my time. Another was Ritz (former Hilton) because I really wanted to see the infamous sauna there. The gym instructor was older than my type, so I went to the sauna. There was a staff there, who seemed to have given me some hint but he was not really my type, so I just enjoyed the sauna. There was a few locals who use the gym but this is the rich and ugly part of the society so i left quickly. The room cleaner was def into this sort of stuff but he was skinny and there were two of them: one old and one young. I wasn't bothered to mess up with them because the young one was too skinny. b. UBER. this is new and I knew some uber drivers do this sorta stuff from my experience in other countries. But i realized that Uber taxi drivers were older or not so fit, so not my type. Then I thought Uber bike!!! I ordered an uber bike for 5 minute ride from my hotel because my purpose was not taking it but to see the driver. guess what, as soon as I confirmed, the driver messaged me and said "you want a bike or an arab?" this was a google translation built in the uber app...I acted like I don't know what it meant and he just said forget about it and started moving toward me. I acted this way because I wanted to see the guy. Uber shows a face picture but not always the same person and you can't see the body. The guy came and he had a nice face but very skinny body so I didn't give any hints. But I think there are a lot opportunities there to explore haha c. Hammam/massage. I love hammams and massage even without sex so I checked some in cairo. I had two hammams and two massage places. One hammam was just bad: they didn't know what they were doing, they only try to sell drinks and very unfriendly reception etc. I didn't get any hints from hammam attendants and I am happy that they didnt because they were ugly and unfit. Another hammam was very diffent: friendly staff thoroughout and didn't bother me so mcuh with drink sales...The interesting part is that the hammam attendant was going a little deeper than usual into my groin area. And his pen!s slight touched me twice...Well he was not fit or toned so I didn't react. I think one could explore it with some caution. Two massage places were the same like the two hammam places: one good and one bad. The bad one was not that bad, the massage therapist was good but just didn't show any hints and didn't go deeper inside my groin or anywhere near for that matter. The good one was such a surprise. He had an excellent massage skill (hard pressure) so I was already happy when he started from my feet. Then as he goes up, he gets deeper inside my legs without any hesitation. I have never had such confident aggressiveness (in a good way!) in a massage. As he was going through my thighs, he touched my balls a couple of times and we went up into my ass and gave me a proper ass massage haha. Then he fingered me without even asking, just as if it was a part of the massage and he kept doing the massage and sometimes the finger gets into my ass...Oh my, this is a pleasant surprise. He went to my back and shoulders but I could fee his penis on my head. When he asked me to turn around, i was just super hard and he would go around and casually touch my hard penis...And I stopped being shy and started touching him and he didn't stop me but he was not hard. He was nto really my type but the experience was so good. Then his phone alarm went off and he stopped immediately and said the time is up. He asked me dress up and leave, even without asking for a tip....Anyway the change room was in a different room, so I left to the change room. I got my bag from the locker and gave him a tip discreetly. That was probably the highlight of Cairo. d. Grindr/tinder: I noticed apps are very active. Grindr probably has more fake profiles but some people had this instagram linked so I think there are some real guys out there. I was just too buy to interact with them and because I cannot bring them to my hotel, I didn't pay much attention to them. If anyone knows a way to solve this accommodation issue, do let me know, I think I will visit Egypt again