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So I thought I would do something nice for my favourite bar boy in Bangkok, I noticed on his line profile that his birthday was coming up so I thought I would send some flowers as a surprise, but then decided against it in favour of sending something a little more useful. So I had a bit of a search on google and found a place that does decent gift baskets and decided to send him one with some food items, directly to the bar. Anyway, I wasn't even sure if the package was going to make it as I had not used this service before, I only know my boy by his nickname (and first name), and I didn't know if he was even going to be at the bar the night of his birthday (and package delivery date). So it was all a bit of a gamble. Anyways, I ended up receiving a flurry of line messages thanking me profusely for his present, so I was glad that the package was delivered successfully and also glad to make him happy. This was the service I used if interested: https://www.basketeer.co.th/en/ . I'm not really the romantic type, but just felt like doing something thoughtful for my favourite bar boy whilst I am away from Thailand.

And the delivery of gift to boy's bar also buys him a hell of a lot of face.

What's weird about trying to make boy happy at very modest cost? Isn't it reason good enough ? I once sent money to guy I learned was in trouble at that time. He did not ask me about anything and I offed him only once before. I just liked way he was trying to get himself out of his hole by taking very low job so decided to help , expecting nothing in exchange. Or one may say just to feel good myself. And I did when two years later he recognized me passing by in soi 4

Please! Everyone loves flowers!

Olddaddy, with ur permission, I find ur question.....odd. Is there any social convention that precludes being nice within a business interaction..... ? To answer ur question: yes, I do. I dont send flowers to my GP or plumber, but I do send every now and then to my drycleaner and my car mechanic. Whenever I feel they deserve it for an above-and-beyond attitude. I applaud Ichigo, and I thank him for sharing the link. Hope I'll have reason to use it. (-:

But you don't suck your GP or Plumbers dick either.....I'm guessing 😝

I guess you frequented Nice Boys.

Do you think with just a little more effort (i.e., stay up till 3a.m.) you could get one of them down to 400 and 31 minutes?

I have used Issan Flowers several times in the past to have roses delivered to the bar in Soi 6 were my then sweetie worked. They take a nice big picture on delivery, which she then had plastered all over her FB for days. Anything that makes her co-workers a little bit envious. https://www.isanflowers.com/component/page,shop.browse/category_id,15/option,com_virtuemart/Itemid,2/ Think the gay boys in particular would love the packages with flowers, chocolates and a Teddy. The more gaudy and oppulent looking the better! 😂

you already know as boy told you he is happy with your tip. That's what I'd tip too. I tip 1000 for 1 hr , 1500 for 1.50 hr unless minimum tip is higher which may be a case is some places in BKK ( VCK, JeySpa, not sure about Senso post covid ) If shop had minimum tip policy they would let you know in advance but I don't think it's a case in Jomtien.

NOTE -- For those with an interest in Thai political history, this piece helps explain how the graduates of an elite military academy have come to govern the country. From Thai PBS World The rise to power of ‘big brother’ Prawit Wongsuwan Deputy Prime Minister Gen Prawit Wongsuwan is generally considered a weak link in Prayut Chan-o-cha’s administration, tainted by the scandal over a multimillion-baht wristwatch collection, despite his repeated denials of corruption. But in a twist of fate, he finally finds himself in the top post of prime minister, thanks to a legal dispute over the tenure of his junior Army classmate. The Constitutional Court on Wednesday voted 5:4 to suspend PM Prayut from duty after it decided to accept a petition filed by the opposition asking for a ruling on his eight-year term as prime minister. Prayut will be suspended as PM until the ruling is delivered, though he can continue to serve as defense minister in the Cabinet. Prawit, who is leader of the ruling Palang Pracharath Party, tops the hierarchy of the six deputy prime ministers, so he automatically became caretaker prime minister following Prayut’s suspension. Prawit will remain as caretaker PM until the Constitutional Court issues its ruling on Prayut’s tenure. Prawit, now 77, is known as the “big brother” of the Burapha Payak (“Tigers of the East”) military clique of officers, who typically start their careers in the 21st Infantry Regiment based in Prachinburi. This group includes former Commander-in-Chief Anupong Paochinda and his successor Prayut. The trio of generals is dubbed the “3Ps” – Prayut, Prawit and “Pock” (Anupong). While Prayut led the coup that toppled the Yingluck government in 2014, Prawit is widely credited with helping the military prolong its power after the 2019 general election. In June 2020, as chief party strategist, Prawit was elected as Palang Pracharath’s new leader. He won the top seat uncontested, announcing he would accept the post to end internal disputes as it would allow him to handle party infighting. “They [the factions] must be reconciled,” he said. His rise to party chief was expected to quell an ongoing power struggle within Palang Pracharath, which has many factions. Prawit, now 77, is known as the “big brother” of the Burapha Payak (“Tigers of the East”) military clique of officers, who typically start their careers in the 21st Infantry Regiment based in Prachinburi. This group includes former Commander-in-Chief Anupong Paochinda and his successor Prayut. The trio of generals is dubbed the “3Ps” – Prayut, Prawit and “Pock” (Anupong). While Prayut led the coup that toppled the Yingluck government in 2014, Prawit is widely credited with helping the military prolong its power after the 2019 general election. In June 2020, as chief party strategist, Prawit was elected as Palang Pracharath’s new leader. He won the top seat uncontested, announcing he would accept the post to end internal disputes as it would allow him to handle party infighting. “They [the factions] must be reconciled,” he said. His rise to party chief was expected to quell an ongoing power struggle within Palang Pracharath, which has many factions. Continues at https://www.thaipbsworld.com/the-rise-to-power-of-big-brother-prawit-wongsuwan-new-caretaker-pm/

Glad you said that. You'll never regret being polite and smiling. It has to be about 12 years ago that I was approached by a gorgeous guy on Soi Tarntawan who was hawking for Super A bar. I can still remember his line" "You don't have to buy drink. Just go take a look." I had been to Super A before and knew I'd never find a guy this good inside so I replied, "you're a really cute guy; would you like to come to my hotel?" He seemed taken aback and after a few seconds responded with. "OK, 4,000 baht." I'd never heard a number like this before and I said, "you're not that cute." I regret it to this day. Not only because it was unkind, but it wasn't true. He was that cute. Those four words abruptly ended any opportunity I may have had with him. That I can still recall the exchange a dozen years ago makes it all so clear to me that I've never really forgotten him. When I passed by him a week or so later, he just looked down and shuffled his feet. Why didn't I just make a counter offer? Why didn't I apologize when I saw him again? Because I was stupid.

No 😂😂

covering their enemy's coffin, yes. Otherwise I'm not so sure. I'd not sent flowers to a guy unless I knew he liked an idea. Specially to a guy from another culture where it may have different meaning than in our societies ( I'm making it up but on another hand I grew up in culture than giving even number of flowers like 2,4 or 6 was bad form so who knows what other societies invented). Another thing to consider is economy - boy may have better use of more practical items like gift basket or even motorcycle than aesthetic items like flowers, unless of course his enemy just died. Reader is right about buying face, this is most precious part of ichigo's idea in boys' eyes, I'm sure

As mentioned Grenada-Versailles keeps you central and close to restaurants and nightlife. El Peñon-San Antonio is also central and has lots of good options and attractions. I would also suggest the areas around Parque del Perro down to the main Hospital del Valle is also very lively and walkable. Main transit route is on Calle 5 and buses run late, so it is pretty easy to get around the city. CuidadJardin is a beautiful neighbourhood, but basically a gated community for the wealthy. It caters to affluent families that want little to do with the street life downtown. Cali is a very distinct flavor of living -- a veces parece puro desorden -- but not without many charms.

# Monkeypox Nobody knows for sure yet. The UK is recommending condom use for several weeks following apparent recovery, presumed recovery based on dermatological symptoms clearing. Due to the possibility of contagious virus lingering in semen and uncertainty about its potential for transmission during sex. The CDC is not yet on board with this recommendation. Also, recent research from Belgium and France is demonstrating MPXV viral detection in men’s routinely collected samples in STI clinics, sampling of men with otherwise no recent history of MPXV and no signs of it at collection. Many of these men did not go on to develop symptoms in spite of testing positive. It is not known if they can transmit infection, in spite of being asymptomatic, through saliva, semen, etc. The ratio of symptomatic to asymptomatic is not known. However, 5% of the Paris sample of screened men were positive for MPXV yet not anywhere near that proportion of the overall MSM population had symptomatic infection during the study period. Another word to the wise: If you are going to travel it is advisable to be abstinent from what would be rationally considered to be high-risk sex for some weeks prior to departure lest you acquire infection at home and get sick abroad following incubation period, a costly prospect. https://archive.ph/2eEuh

I love the Avani Pattaya Resort. Giant pool. Beautiful pool deck and garden. Tranquil vibe. Easy access to the property from an unmarked and easy to miss entrance along beach road that is especially useful at night if you've had a bit too much to drink and want to avoid the reception staff and other guests on your way to your room. The rooms themselves are extremely comfortable, almost luxurious. The balconies are small but, wow, it feels so wonderful hanging out on them with guys from the bars. I don't smoke but I do when I stay at the Avani Pattaya Resort and I'm relaxing on the balcony well after midnight. Added bonus: Free use of one of the best gyms in Pattaya.

Since Covid I don't know if they are still doing it, but be careful where you stay. Several of the hotels, especially the ones around the beach areas in Pattaya, had mandatory Christmas dinners. Hotel guests would be charged for it whether they ate there or not - and often guests didn't know about it until they arrived. Actually they were very good and I thought well worth it, but I never liked the idea of mandatory. The excuse was they were preparing elaborate, expensive dinners and could not afford for their guests to eat elsewhere. They should have at least informed their guests in advance but few ever did. I don't know if any hotels in Bangkok or other cities were doing that, but I would want to find out before deciding where I want to stay and how much they are charging. Before you commit to a Christmas hotel, ask if they are doing that. Check about New Year's Eve too.

Those boys are nice, I did not know about this guy, nice. I like this guy on twitter, he take pics of Myanmar MBs https://twitter.com/ZobiClay

while you may be correct, reason it's new one for you is that, as you say, you don't take boys from those kind of places. While not universal, I heard it few times in Dec and in May , mostly in BKK and I'm pretty sure I also did before covid. It may be guy's own initiative or indeed bar's suggestion or even requirement. I don't know but it's not new. And boys are still willing to amend that quote. On another hand we need to keep in mind that if they are paying off mamasan , if he lowers tip likely even less money stays in his pocket after that "pimping fee". It's many things going on which we don't know because guys don't tell us , even if asked. I know guy who changed venues exactly for reason of mamasan trying to extort too high cut. not disputing what you said but what it really means " not the best lookers ". Over years I visited many places in company of our members and I know one thing for sure. They are guys I'm salivating over other will run screaming from and other way around. Second , not the best lookers indeed may have other advantages when comes to their work being enthusiastic tops, skilled bottoms and great kissers or just have great attitude, not to mention sizable and shapely endowment. As many of us learned at great expense , at times great looking guys are somehow lacking in customer service department.

I am sure you are correct. On the other hand that means losing an off. The young man was new to the bar and probably was only trying to be helpful. I reckon the words he used when I asked if he'd bottom were very fair. I could easily have told him I'd find another of the boys instead. But I liked him and he was extremely pleasant, more so than many boys I'd met in bars. And even though the sex was not quite what I'd hoped, I had a really good time with him. I hope he reported that other farang to the mamasan and that she then spread the word to the other Twilight bars.

Labour MP Luke Pollard was sent despicable homophobic abuse for sharing Valentine’s Day photo with boyfriend Nick Duffy February 15, 2021 Luke Pollard, Labour MP for Plymouth Sutton and Devonport with his boyfriend (Twitter/Luke Pollard) Labour MP Luke Pollard is facing homophobic trolling on social media after posting a photo of himself and his boyfriend to mark Valentine’s Day. Luke Pollard, an openly gay MP for Plymouth Sutton and Devonport, took to social media on Sunday (14 February) to post a selfie with his partner. He wrote: “Happy Valentine’s Day to my lovely boyfriend! X” The post attracted dozens of homophobic responses from far-right trolls focussed on an apparent “age gap” between Pollard, 40, and his boyfriend, who appears to be in his mid-to-late 20s. One comment branded Pollard a “dirty Labour nonce”, while another read: “He looks 12 years old, you should be locked up.” Thankfully, plenty of people flooded the post with messages of support for Pollard, with many calling out the veiled homophobia and stressing that there’s absolutely nothing odd about a relationship between two consenting adults. “Age gap” criticism is often targeted at gay men to perpetuate homophobic tropes, with many responses noting that prime minister Boris Johnson, 56, never faces similar abuse over his 32-year-old fiancée Carrie Symonds. This is a beautiful picture, of a couple clearly in love. Those who bemoan the perceived 'age gap' here, but don't do so when it comes to the PM and his female partner, are being (whether they realise it or not) homophobic. They should have a word with themselves. Love is Love. https://t.co/oHPJUw6pV4 — Cllr Mathew Hulbert – In Village Government. (@HulbertMathew) February 14, 2021 One Twitter user wrote: “The comments under this photo really suggest this country hasn’t progressed much since the ’80s. Gay men shouldn’t have to deal with this.” Another response quipped: “Love all the straight people replying shocked that not everybody settles down with the first boring person they date”. One joked: “Replies to this clearly showing that straight men have no idea about skincare”. There’s a 24 year age difference between the PM and his current girlfriend, but of course everyone is making awful comments about these two because homophobia. You both look very happy and make a lovely couple

you or somebody else recently voiced similar concern in another thread I guess. Your Singaporean friend most likely overpaid but if he liked boy and experience nothing wrong with that. I rather pay 10000 and be happy then find somebody for 2000 who turns out to be low skilled sand bag. Being quoted 20000 is overboard but it may happen and come to realization, after all 4 off at 5000 equals 1 off at 20000 and only boy would know if that makes sense for him or not. I think it was fishing. None of us flies to BKK to pay that much and very few to pay that 10000. My last LT offs from there were 3000 in Dec and 5000 in May. In both cases guys were not in bar so I asked mamasans to bring them over. In 3000 case it was my offer after his 'up to you " answer to my question about his fee. 5000 was quoted by boy and I accepted right away because I liked him. Like reader above, I think each boy has his own rate depending of his popularity, client , phase of moon and so on. Nothing is written in stone though and may be negotiated. If guy is open to negotiation given day depends of the same criteria I listed. I met my '5000 ' guy before and then LT was out of question, even ST he was somewhat apprehensive with all that girls in audience but luckily changed his mind post-covid as we can see. in my opinion 5000 is a maximum, specially for untested guy, even in Jupiter, Moonlight or Tawan. If you have hots for guy you may go for more but be prepared to be disappointed. Alternative is to meet him ST first and see if you clicked There are few guys in various places I adore but none warranting more than that fee IMHO. 5000 is a lot of money and it's still easy to find somebody suitable for 3000, perhaps even 2500. Keep that in mind when you get too hot under the collar. When boy asks for more and is not yielding , tell him politely that 5000 or whatever is all you can pay and stick to that. Don't tell him (face !!! ) he is too expensive or that you can find guy for less. Tip him for his time and move on. Don't hold it against him , he knows better what his financial position is and may stick to his quote the same way we stick to ours. Next time you are in bar he may smile at you which will be good sign to try once more or will ignore you which means your offer was too low indeed. Be firm but polite and keep negotiations to minimum in order not to kill the fun. My rule is max 3 strikes "his quote, my quote, his quote, yes or no" or " my quote, his quote, my quote, yes or no" Keep in mind that quote from reader above The guy you like will have a price range in mind and you should, too.

Oh, also want to share with anyone that is thinking about visiting Cali... The entire city comes to a standstill on Sunday. Virtually nothing is open. You can hike up to El Cerro de las tres cruces or up to Cristo Rey, the malls in Versalles and Jardin are open, but that is pretty much it. The salsa clubs in Juanchito come to standstill. Very traditional in that sense. For the record I love visiting Cali and make a point of going each year for a few days. But I always fly back to Medellín on Sunday morning.

Unless he is feminine I probably wouldn't send flowers If he was muscle (my type) probably protein powder

Very good point, one that makes me realize why I have always had trouble with one particular manager. I'll remember this advice next time I'm in Thailand (and avoid that manager's bar).

I do like to watch news programmes but thankfully in Bangkok I get neither Fox News nor MSNBC. I only get the BBC World News programme and CNN. Both have good programming from time to time. I only mentioned earlier that CNN is more left of centre because that is how it seems when compared to those few occasions when I have watched Fox (in hotels for example). I also as suggested by a poster read the on-line editions of two newspapers.

Monkeypox information: https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/monkeypox https://www.ncdhhs.gov/media/17425/download?attachment?attachment https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccines/key-facts-about-vaccines-prevent-monkeypox-disease

YT suggested this to me last night. I think I may need to find out if there are subtitles

I was in a Thai bookshop in Bangkok and they had a huge shelf full of Y manga. That must have been 1% of the books in the shop, which is a lot for such a highly specialized genre. "Margareth, do we have an Yaoi manga with a twink prince with curly black hair who falls in love with a tattooed Tawan muscle guy?" - they have it all! I think that has already started.

We all have a type! Keeps things interesting. In fact, if any of you know the adult video site private***movie (I'm not sure on the rules with linking, but if you know you know). The barman at Divarium was the latest 4K video (blond hair). This site is blocked in Thailand though, a VPN would be required.

When my cable bill hit $89 eight years ago I cancelled it in favor of an old fashioned tv antenna. I get 64 channels, giving me all the news, sports and entertainment options I need. Consequently I'm spared the scores of cable news offerings that prove more political than informative.

I would agree with what Gaybutton wrote from personal experience that I have had here in Europe. In the city where I live, a decent size section of the local escorts are "controlled" by certain local "pimps" who demand a fixed price with no negotiation allowed. The price per hour is set by the local pimps. After getting to know some of these escorts and being able to see them in a hidden way without their designated "pimp" discovering our meeting - when I interviewed these guys I discovered the following: Their pimp does their marketing to get them customers - where their pimp can take 30% to 50% of their earnings. Many of the guys like this because they hate marketing themselves to their potential clients. Their designated pimp will even drive them to the client's place, They are in financial trouble and they have taken big loans from their designated pimp and they need to pay back these loans to their designated pimp, The pimp is providing permanent and/or temporary housing to the escort - because he lives outside of the city or cannot get permanent housing in the city. Recently, one of these local pimps started chasing me directly to STOP obtaining services of an escort that were not arranged by him. I prefer to find escorts that are pimp-free and work for themselves and are independent. Obviously, the local pimp bosses do not like this, as they lose the possibility to get their cut and to control the local market prices. Hopefully, there in Pattaya/Jomtien this type of system does not exist ? The guys are free to choose, 1.) who they go with?, 2.) how much they will charge ?

I bought a pencil sharpener on Khaosan Rd for a friend. It was a woman with her legs apart, so you can guess where the pencil went. Very tastfully done!

Patpong Night market may be not reinstated yet but in the evening there are still some souvenir stands along Silom between hospital and former Robinson. Tourist Boat piers near Grand Palace and Khaosan are good hunting grounds as well as Grand Palace vicinity toward National Museum and KhaoSan herself Sukhumvit in the evening between sois 3 and 21 too during daytime markets at Silom soi 8 and on opposite side in soi 5 may have some I saw few souvenir stands on Convent in between all those food stands Plenty souvenirs in New Twilight, Tawan, Moonlight, FreshBoys, DreamBoys, HotMale, Banana Club and Jupiter but I'd not call them tacky and are rather on expensive side compare to tuk-tuk above

My interpretation and please don't take it the wrong way .. is because you don't "look him" which means I guess talk to him / hire his services Obviously he is not in "love " with you ,he is a business man but he sounds a bit inpatient as you are not showing him interest. I guess this is a type of "psychology" to make you feel guilty? And I guess thinking someone "loves"or cares for you ( I don't mean you personally but that's what my interpretation is that he is trying to project ) sort of a guilt trip . He is using psychological business tactics😂 ( if there is such a thing)

so do I - he seems to be interesting - and hopefully a hotty like these in the below Twitter link These photos are so hot that it is age restricted - so you need to be a enrolled in Twitter to see them. Famous Myanmar photographer of Burmese hotties on Twitter

@numazu I just stayed three nights in Baywalk last week and seven nights in Avani last month. Both are pretty good, IMHO. I prefer Baywalk as it checks almost all my boxes (closer to Boyztown and the beach with a sea view restaurant, gym, swimming pool, buffet with unlimited servings of fresh vegetables, spacious rooms, reasonably priced). Avani is not that luxurious inside the room (certainly not at a four-star level), but it offers a pretty good buffet, a large outdoor swimming pool and a huge Asian-style garden with ponds that you can walk around (Families with kids would love it). Avani also has sea-view rooms (should go with rooms on the left wing as they offer better view) but it cost more (it cost me more than $100 per day for the cheapest sea-view room category) No problems with guests to the room. Avani sometimes checks for Id, Baywalk wouldn't bother.

From The Pattaya News

It was still one of those early Bangkok experience days many years ago .. I heard of V Club from a friend and was so impressed by the men there when I look up their website ...when i was finally inside V Club for the first time ..i was super excited. I was sit at the sofa in the middle and was surrounded by all the guys whose body were totally my type . I remember I had a hard time deciding who to take .as there were just too many great option . I finially decided to take the one standing right at the end ..was told by him that was one of his tricks to get the attention of customer ..I mean most of the boys were like looking at you trying to get your attention other than that boy .who was not looking my way . Hahaha ...anyway ..he was good ...really good ..I was so " in love " with his personality and body that i offer him to come by my hotel for overnight right after he was done with the massage . He took up the offer and was calling me from the hotel lobby that night . We spend some time talking about personal stuff and ofcouse he " give good love " ..he ended staying with me for 4 more nights before i return to Singapore . I met up with him for few more times in Bangkok and Singapore .. I was never disappointed ..and once pre covid he invited me to Myanmar where he is from ..I had a great time there . He was my tour guide cum sex toy .. Than Covid hit..and he return home from Bangkok . It's been a long time s since I met up with him ...but we still do Video call often ..but I have plan to visit Bangkok very soon .And he has agreed to meet me in Bangkok when I'm there ...I can't wait ... And ya .of all the massage boys I had all these years ...he is always my number 1 ....nobody even come close .....

Parque Bolivar /the area around the Cathedral in Medellin was extensively discussed a few weeks ago (despite the headline of this thead and the initial posts about a certain scort; it is worth to make a separate thread about Parque Bolivar with all the observations/comments from here?) Anyway, here are my observations from my visit in Medellin last month: Parque Bolivar and the square in front of the Cathedral is perfectly safe during daytime; actually quite pleasant IMO. Indeed, there are drug/glue addicts and hustlers/prostitutes but they will not interfear or do you any harme. I suggest to walk and look around in the park. You will be noticed, and some of the guys will wave or try to make contact if you look at them. If you want to interact with the guys, sit down somewhere a bit private and be patient. The are many guys in the parque and some will eventually approach you; they will know why you are there. Have a chat (most will not speak English) and see what happens. The guys know where to take you for fun; nearby hotels have “ocasional room” for 15 mil. Bring condoms and lube. Expect to pay the guy 50-75 mil for sex; to be negotiated of course. The guys that hang around Parque Bolivar are young but not models/have muscle or gym fit bodies, and appearance wise a bit on the rough side, but if you are into such guys, you will have a good time there; some of them are cute/good looking IMO and most have nice lean bodies. Enjoy!

I arrived in Pattaya this week for a short (4 week) visit. On Saturday evening at about 10 pm I decided to give Boyztown a look over, as I haven’t seen it since the reopening after Covid. I decided to try 3 Gogo bars. The first I visited was an old favourite Toyboys and I was greeted warmly by the Manager/Boss/ Owner, or whatever he is. Name Put or Pat. There were in excess of 18 boys working all in underwear. Most if not all could be called Twinks. About 5 customers. Unfortunately, I was then “greeted” by a male Mamasan. I recognised him from a few years ago. Bad news. He must have graduated top of the class from the “Pesky Mamasan” University. He wouldn’t leave me alone, sat beside me and demanded a drink. Ignoring him eventually did the trick but it must have taken 15 minutes, before he went to pester another customer. Nasty piece of work. I made 100% sure he was outside when it came to paying the bill. Only had one drink and decided enough was enough. Next I went into BBB. Some boys on stage in full clothing and about 10 customers. I left without buying a drink. Next I went round the corner to see how things were at Dreamboys. As I approached the door a guy went straight inside. Bad sign. I ŵas right and there were no customers and about 5 boys scrambling to get on the stage. I decided it was not for me sitting there alone. As I was leaving BT I walked past A Bomb and so had a look inside. Again no customers. A few boys in underwear. All rather disappointing for a Saturday evening between 10 and 11 pm. I returned to Jomtien which was heaving!

not sure what it is supposed to mean 'bit trashy" but whatever it is, nothing to be apprehensive about. Boys are as nice as BKK ones, prices of drinks, off fees , massages and expected tips are lower indeed. If you are looking for twinks you will find galore of them in Jomtien Complex as well as Winners and whatever was left from Sunee Plaza glory. Nice Boys staff may be a bit on rough side but in positive sense of it - less inhibited I'd say. For more meatier guys head to Boyztown, BBB and Dreamboys will be your destination there. If you bored during day, trip to Koh Larn ( with boy or three in tow), Sanctuary of Truth and Noong Noch (spelling? ) Tropical Gardens and Big Buddha on top of the hill at the center are you daytime distractions. Central Festival and Terminal 21 are malls to visit if you re shopper. Lots of restaurants so you won't starve, if you like street food , you will find plenty of it between Wat Chai and Tukcom. Baht bus is 10 baht and motorsai between Jomtien and the center will be 60-100 depending on driver , time of day, your negotiating skills, how you dressed and phase of moon. If you arrive by Airport bus ( recommended), terminal is walking distance of 6 minutes 37 seconds from Jomtien Complex, if by bus from Ekkamai bus station to North Pattaya Bus Station , it will be 50--100 by songtawew (baht bus) or motorsai to Boyztown, unless you stop songtaew on the main street, that it will be 2 times 10 baht as you must change at Delphin roundabout. As for hotels, in Boytzown Classroom (more quiet) , just above ABomb boy bar or in Boyztown proper Copa or Ambiance are your choices, all gust friendly like 127.43% of Pattaya hotels. In Jomtien complex Zing Resort or The Venue are cheaper choices, Agate , East Suites and Poseidon are more for affluent types like you.

@vinapuhow much do you usually pay for LT? I am curious how much you guys usually pay for LT/overnights.. Anyways here is my field report: I went to see a show in Twilight last 20 May. There were only 4-5 shows and the whole thing lasted for only 25 minutes I think. Mamasan said that they might be another show every 12:30am in the future. Shows are rather boring compared to Hotmale, Dreamboys and Freshboys. Some seemed recycled from Dreamboys too (It's raining men and Sexbomb) although they say that the shows are different each day. First Mamasan quoted me 500 bar fine and 2,500 for the tip. Second mamasan quoted me 500 bar fine and 2,000 tip for floor boys and 1000 and 5000 bar fine and tip, respectively for models. There are both straight and gay models. I've only seen couple of guys who were my type but I didnt off anyone. Overall, the bar seems promising. All the mamasans are very accommodating. One thing that annoyed me though is that the mamasans flock and beg customers for some tip when they bill out. I went back last saturday and offed a cute straight lao guy. He seemed very game and playful as he always dances but turns out he is the complete oppossite. He is byfar the worst off that I have had in Bangkok. Maybe its because of the language barrier but he wasnt very communicative even when I try to use google translate to talk to him. He didnt even get hard. The whole off lasted for only more or less 30 minutes .. so yeah i will probably wont be coming back for a while but its worth going in for a try.

I went to Colombia this march for 2 weeks and as it was my first trip there and i asked a few people a lot of advice I feel that I shhould share a bit about the trip The trip was a week in Bogota and a week in Cartagena I started in Bogota and booked a hotel in chapinero which seemed like the right place lots of gay nightlife and a lot of escorts around. Bogota is a great city people are friendly and its very easy to find boys there. I speak no spanish and it seemed like noone spoke much english aside from a few people at some of the tourist attractions. That makes it harder as a solo traveler I think if i was travelling with a likeminded friend i would have had a blast in bogota. The boys I ended up taking to the hotel I met online I am not a big nightife fan and prefer a good fuck and a dinner to a night boozing. There were tons of goodlooking boys and they were eager to meet up. Making plans for several days ahead turned out to be almost impossible prehaps its a language or culture thing but i found it was better to look for the boy when you needed him and take who was available. All chat is on whatsapp and google translate was all i used and it worked well. Spent the second week in Cartagena where there were quite few rentboys on the sites and none in my flavour bracket ( twinks) but with the help of a spanish speaking forum member i had set up my grindr profile and soon i had a lot of messages and I ended up going out with a nice dark student while was there i had booked a cheap hotel and had no problems bringing him there Cartagena is a lovely town the old town is beautiful and the food in the resturants is great and reasonably priced I really enjoyed the city and prehaps its also because i had a great 18 at my side there who spoke a good deal of english which made it all a lot more fun. Generally a lot more people spoke english in Cartagena so it was easier to communicate. So all in all a great trip a little more hassle finding boys than in thailand but great sex with very passionate lovers even when you are paying