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Well - following the popular request - I am not really tuned to writing trip reports . Arrived 9th August for my second trip to Thailand this year. Liked the fact that masks are no longer mandated (almost) everywhere. Many people are wearing them anyway; nearly 100% (minus me) wear masks on BTS. I read the forum posts and thought I could use Senso and report back whether it is indeed open for business. Went to Senso 4.30 pm ish. There were 3 or 4 masseurs available. In fact none of them appealed a great deal to me lol (I knew our tastes vary). I ended up choosing someone anyway who led me to a room on 4th (?) storey (why they need to arrange a room so high up; not that I have a problem climbing up those stairs). The room and bed was spacious as I remembered from the pre-covid days. The boy didn't really know much of a massage but was eager to please and having a proper attitude in my words. One hour massage: 1100 b for the house and 1200 b min tip for the boy. This is it.

Without being too specific, let's just say it was in the management of the arts, entertainment and related businesses. I think reading my posts some will certainly have guessed it was something like that. And knowing this, you can understand why I can never not work in some way or another. I was so fortunate in that my work was essentially my passion. As for all my travel, hardly a trip went by without my attending one or more operas, plays, musicals etc. In fact, I once flew from Bangkok to Chicago just to see an opera. Another time it was to Dresden. Now I am quite heavily involved in writing with a first book published in March and a second one about to go to the printers.

Here are my observations based on 2 visits last month (Friday and a Saturday a few weeks later). Both nights were busy. Full house/all tables busy from around 11 PM (Saturday a bit later). Entry is 15 mil until 11PM; 20 mil after 11 PM. Drinks/beverages are reasonably priced, e.g. a Club Colombia beer is 10 mil. The price for a "private show" behind the curtain is advertised at 60 mil but no first hand experience on what is actually included. The dancers/strippers vary on each night but many seem to come on a regular basis/each night. The guys will approach you for a hand shake/to say hi and small talk; in general they try to interact with the guests and are friendly and encourage touching/light groping, which should be appreaciated with small tips (2 or 5 mil note). Very few speak English so try to get by in Spanish. The guys vary in appearance from very masculine muscle guys to younger lean/fit boys with more boyish bodies (so there should be someone for every taste). In general, I find the strippers hot/looking great and sexy in their small speedos/briefs (although certainly not all of them are of my taste). The guys advertised on the webpage have not been updated, so don't expect to find the guys you have seen online to actually be there on a given night As stated above there will be a fuck show on Fridays around/after midnight (but it was nothing spectacular IMO; I enjoyed the guys dancing on the stage more); I didn't see any fuck show on Saturday (but I might have left too early). As suggested above many of the guys will open to share their Whatsapp details, so just ask if you fancy a guy and would like to connect. From personal experience, the guys I interacted with in Whatsapp subsequently were prepared to meet for private sessions at your hotel/apartment or their room (at a price of course; to be negotiated so don't accept their initial 200-300 mil offer!) In general, I enjoyed my time there (as I did in the past) and would love to go back. The ambience is very nice and the staff/guys are friendly. If you dislike loud music bring earplugs. The area (a little North of the main parts of Gaychapi) is in general safe and walkable at night, but make sure you don't cross the nearby main through road (Ave Caracas, with Transmilenio bus lanes) by accident at night.

How true! And how many of this generation married primarily to escape from the possibiliity that their gayness would be discovered? After all, it was only in 1967 that being gay - being queer, a fag, "one of them" and all the other epithets used at the time - was decriminalised in England and Wales, and in 1980 in Scotland. I have four good friends of approximately my age who married and each had children. Three knew they were gay; the other that he was bisexual with a greater fondness for guys. The last opened up to his future wife before their marriage. She understood and realised that she would have to share him occasionally. Even so, their marriage was a happy one and they had 5 children. The other three all divorced - eventually - and set up home with a gay man. Only one divorce was reasonably amicable. This friend was from continental Europe and had moved his family to New York for work. One evening he was on the small balcony of their apartment tormented by the dilemma of constantly lying to his wife and as constantly cheating on her. He even thought of jumping. Then reason took over. The next evening he opened up to his wife. He was then staggered when she said to him in a sympathetic way: "I know!" Theirs was the amicable divorce. He soon moved to Thailand and found a Thai boyfriend. I was once at dinner in their apartment when his two children were staying. Another had a very messy divorce. He had met and fallen in love with a Thai who lived in London. They also now live in Thailand, but his earlier family refuse to speak to him. I continue to look up to the sky and say thanks for university. In that freer evironment with its less hide-bound tradtions, I met a fellow student and instantly had the most enormous crush. I was never sure if he knew I was pursuing him but we quite quickly became very good friends even though I hadn't the slightest idea that he might also be gay. Although it took almost a year, we did finally kiss and end up in bed. I realised then I could stay in the closet and enjoy relationships if I was careful about it. And that's how I lived before finally coming out.

In the link above you will find link to QC code https://lin.ee/0bEVlWQ and you can join them on Line using that. I just did yesterday. So far they did not send me anything other than introductory welcome message. before closure they specialized in hunky masseurs, it's why I'm one of those looking for the to re-open hoping they will stay that course. It was one of shops on more expensive side, 1000 massage 1500 min. tip. as for experiences , like most shops it varied depending to whom you talk but I was lucky one and invariably was leaving premises very happy every time. M, Jack, Tim, Tik and few more were outstanding. On personal level Senso along with Arena were only two gay places where I had goosebumps on approach, don't ask me why. Even in May when I know surely shop is still closed when passing by to my hotel I noticed increased heart beat. It must be underground river or something , lol.

It's hardly a secret that the majority of posters here are in the 50+ age group so it's understandable that issues about aging frequently come up. It becomes a time in our lives when we realize when we tend to look back with both fondness and regret. That's perfectly normal. But if we find ourselves dwelling too much on the rear view mirror, we risk allowing it to inhibit our future. At least that's the case for me. From time to time I enjoy reminiscing about earlier days but I'm also keenly aware that I'm increasingly focused on whatever years I have remaining. Vinapu offers sage advice when he encourages us to start planning our next trip. It's not a magic elixir but there are probably few better antidotes to the blues. Growing old and gay presents is own special breed of challenges. As some have written about on these pages, we tend to have few--if any--family members we're comfortable discussing our sexuality with. As much as we'd like to talk about our trips to Thailand, we usually keep it to ourselves or restrict it to forums like this. Yes, it can be quite lonely at times. Posters have described the pain complete strangers have caused them when they're in the company of young men. This also has the potential to inhibit the way we lead our lives. One close friend gave me this advice when I come across someone like that: "See them for what they are in our life: trash. Visualize tossing them in a bag and disposing them along with the rubbish and forget them. They're not worth another second's thought." Regardless of our age, we have enough other issues that we can't avoid, health and finances among them. We deal with them as best we can but we don't have to allow the stares and remarks of bigots stand in our way of happiness.

According to twitter "Taywa Massage and Spa" could have rather masculine masseurs. But I never went there, it's location is pretty inconvenient, not near any convenient BTS or MRT. One day I might try, but currently I am totally overbooked.

you got it right. We shouldn't lose from eyesight fact that all freedoms we enjoy now one day may be taken away , swept by bigoted wave. Impossible one may say, but then look at what happened with abortion rights in the USA not to mention almost complete silencing gays in Russia. While we enjoy what we have we should be vigilant

Your post has awakened some memories for me, not all of them pleasant. The steps I took to hide my feelings (not my actions, I hasten to add) embarrass me in recollection. At the same time, I was aware of two associates at work who, I believed at the time, were harbouring similar secrets. They both married and had children. I thank God for Pattaya every day of my life. To sit in Panorama of an evening a, surrounded by like-minded guys, and watch the go go dancers joking and making eyes at us on their way to work, with an evening of fun ahead...if I could choose where to spend eternity, it would be there. Younger posters may find it hard to comprehend just how liberating Pattaya was to my generation, who had spent some of the best years of our lives in the closet.

The cities listed, agree with them or not, were not there for their attraction to visitors. They were for those who live in them. How many orchestras and theatres do you want in the city of your choice? Given the choice I'd rather regularly attend performances of the Vienna Philharmonic or the Royal Concertgebouw than orchestras in other cities. True, musicals and theatre are more difficult outside NYC and London if your only language is English. But to generalise the performing arts in terms of number of venues to visit is, to me, not a valid reason. Quality is more important than quantity. Besides, the cost of living in NYC and London would make it more difficult to attend many performances unless I lived outside the cities and commuted in.

The place was open - I visited the premise on 10th August.

he did his duty and decided to have some well deserved fun. I doubt his late wife minds

you won't be disappointed at Sabaidee. Keep in mind than many guys there may not be available if you just show up on given day. From what I was told guys there are free to come and go without fixed schedule. On another hand they may be few interesting whose pics are not posted for some reason. For hunks it's now most interesting option but that may possibly change if Senso and Prince re-opens. On another hand VCK Club in Aree area is still alive and kicking although with reputation of being more place for Asians K-Man's accolades are well deserved but guys there are less hunky, more next door types , no shortage of handsome and sizable though. In general, while a lot of places closed still there's enough of them to keep one busy and his funds depleted for quite long vacations so availability of handsome and willing masseurs is least of any tourist concerns.

From Pattaya Mail By Barry Kenyon The Tourist Authority of Thailand is pressurizing the government to allow most vacationing foreigners to visit Thailand for up to three months without obtaining a visa from their local Thai embassy abroad. Visitors from 64 countries (including Brits, Russians, Australians, Americans and most mainland Europeans) are already visa-exempt. They obtain 30 days free-of-charge on arrival which can be extended for a further month at Thai immigration on payment of 1,900 baht. If the Thai Cabinet, as expected, accepts the proposal, these periods would become 45-plus-45 days for a total of three months. A similar discretion would apply to those from 19 countries (including mega-markets China and India) whose citizens require a visa-on-arrival costing 1,900 baht (US$54) at Thai airports. Currently, they receive only 15 days but would now receive 45 days plus a further 45 days extension. TAT is also proposing abolition of the fee, but this is thought less likely for budgetary reasons. The movement towards 90 day entry without involving embassies in the home country is partly to end visa application delays, but more especially to encourage longer stays and higher spending. Thai authorities seem determined right now to ease entry for foreigners. Pre-flight and online registration, anti-Covid insurance and even the TM6 address card have all been suspended. Arriving passengers no longer have to fill in any forms, although Ministry of Health officials may conduct random health checks on anyone looking ill. The experience compares favorably with Cambodia, for instance, where all foreigners must fill in a visa application, a health questionnaire and a customs declaration all collected at different desks. Yuthasak Supasorn, the TAT governor, this week also announced that the 300 baht tourist fee, to be levied on foreigners, would not now be implemented for “one or two years” as the imperative is get tourist numbers up from the doldrums. The tax had been heavily criticized as not worth the hassle. Security expert Colin Ross said Thai authorities had finally realized that form-filling was a poor way of monitoring foreigners. “Computerization of records and tracking people’s GPS location via mobile phones makes a lot more sense,” he said. He added that once virtual passports replace the documentary version, travellers’ identity and biometrics would be stored in a cloud. No need to carry the passport or fear it being stolen. But that’s a few years away yet. =========================== From Pattaya News Propose end of hospitels and hotel isolation in September The Department of Health Service Support of the Ministry of Public Health is planning to propose the cancellation of hospitel and hotel isolation on September 1st. Director-General Dr. Thares Krasanaiyarawiwong revealed on Wednesday, August 10th, that the Department will propose the cancellation to the Public Health Ministry after the resolving situation of the Covid-19 outbreak in Thailand. The proposal will be introduced to Minister Anutin Charnvirakul before being issued as a Public Health announcement in the following step. It is initially planned to be implemented in September, if approved.

shortage of stuff is understandable considering they just opened but idea of masseurs completely dressed is lunacy IMHO, specially long sleeves. They used to prersent themselves at least in singlets if not bare chested . I could live with goodlooking cute twink but yes, Senso was known for muscular guys , not twinks. I guess for now we need to be happy they are opened and hope situation will improve in time

It is open. But: Yesterday around 4 pm only 2 boys available, after msg I saw a third one. Do I remember correctly before Covid the guys were posing in shorts in front of you and they were on the muscular side of the universe? Now they wear a very stylish suit with long pants and long sleeves, so you have to judge everything from the face alone. I think that concept is totally going in the wrong direction. One of the 2 guys was a goodlooking cute twink, the other one a 30+ hard to jugde what was hiding underneath the clothes.

https://www.pattayamail.com/latestnews/news/obituary-dolly-john-humphreys-400990 I hope that link works,The Dolly sisters to me were wonderful,always raising money for great causes especially HIV AIDS charities . Unfortunately both have passed ,sadly relatively young.💛💚💙

all true but we need to remember while being in company of somebody much younger that while we don't give a damn about what people think and say or how they look at us , out companions may not feel that comfortable. So when, admittedly very rarely ( I may recall 4-5 cases in 22 trips) , they seem apprehensive to walk or dine together I tend to yield. After all they are locals and will stay there when we will be gone

before, during or after massage ?

I wonder to whom it makes that sense, for autocrats for sure

K Man Spa has received a lot of positive attention in this forum K man spa - Home | Facebook

Not in this case....at least, the twin had a wife and a daughter. But who knows? My generation is full of closet-dwellers. After all, I was forty-five before I had gay sex. One thing I've mentioned before is that I was struck , on my first visit to Pattaya where I met other men for whom gay sex had come late to their lives. Very late in the case of one guy, who was in his late seventies when his wife died. He came straight to Pattaya where I'd see him frequently walking through Boyztown, hand -in hand with a young Thai. I found it touching.

A report in today's Guardian newspaper reveals that another virus which has spread from animals to humans has been identified in China. "The novel Langya henipavirus (LayV) was first detected in the north-eastern provinces of Shandong and Henan in late 2018 but was only formally identified by scientists last week . . . Initial investigations into the virus were outlined in correspondence published by scientists from China, Singapore and Australia in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) last week. "There have been no deaths from LayV to date. Prof Wang Linfa of the Duke-NUS Medical School, a co-author of the NEJM paper, told the state-run Global Times that the LayV cases had 'not been fatal or very serious' so far and that there was 'no need for panic'. . . . Infectious diseases experts have long warned that the climate crisis and the destruction of nature will increase the risk of viruses being transmitted from animals to humans, in events known as 'zoonotic spillovers'”. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2022/aug/10/newly-identified-langya-virus-tracked-after-china-reports-dozens-of-cases

Yes. But there are some persons confused about that, such as former U.S. President Bill Clinton. 🙄

Some people want to keep working. It is their life. I retired at age 59, no regrets so far.

Soon...

He hasn't been locked up yet. And if he didn't do so many crimes he wouldn't have any problems.

Lock him up!

My observations from May trip are the same, it looks that , at least for currencies outside of great duo USD / EUR, booth by the railway station at Swampy weren't that competitive. Now I,m fan and big user of XONE on Suriwong close to Amara hotel.

Hi Tassojunior, In the photo of this young cutie from the HUNQZ site - you can see his true beauty and smile and innocence. I am a frequent user of HUNQZ - as I live in Europe where it is very popular. I often see when you meet a gem like this guy you see one of two things happen as the years march forward: they become hardened and bitter due to their client experiences over the year and consequently lose that innocence that was their initial appeal, or, they become quickly disillusioned and leave the HUNQZ world to find other non-escort work. These are the gems to hold onto. I highly recommend to stay in contact with them as they go forward into their new non-escort lives. They tend to still hold onto what gave you that initial appeal and you can build a kind of business friendship with them. One of my hobbies is I like to "mix and match" guys from this category where we meet for 3 ways. Since they are both ex-escorts - it leads to some really fun and sensual moments. In some cases, the 2 guys that I chose for a 3-way really like each other and start to date or create friendships, and I truly get a big kick out of that - in that I could play the role of matchmaker. Often, they will allow us to continue to meet even while they are dating - and that makes our meetings more intense and erotic. Just my 2 cents on how to create a private stock of guys to have fun with - current escorts and prior ex-escorts and to mix and match them for fun.

And let them know that you guys have more sex in a week then they have in a year, and neither of you ever get a headache!

I'm sympathetic to Olddaddy's concerns. A few years back, P and I took a boat trip from Krabi to Phi Phi and found being confined to the company of falang straight, elderly couples dispiriting. The jaunt included a lunch on Phi Phi in which we found ourselves forced to share a table with a couple whose disdain was palpable. We made our excuses, as they say, and left. it was the last time that we took a group tour.

Very interesting intel. I can empathise with the poor leaseholder's decision. It sounds like one of those situations where the losses are smaller just paying the rent on unused space, compared to trying to open the business and losing money paying the rent plus bleeding red ink from operations. But what it means is that there is hope... though it is debatable how long it will take for Xi Jinping to change course. It only proves what I have said before. Lucky Boys was way too big a space. The business does not have the agility to adjust to circumstances that a smaller business would have.

Happy to. This forum is about sharing He's adorable: https://www.romeo.com/hunq/Fresh_Boy_

Day 19 We waked up to no view in the morning – rain and being 65th floor we were in clouds. It did not last long , by time we went for breakfast it was clear. At breakfast K offered generously that he has time till 11 so he can return to the room , offer gladly accepted and not only because of no charge. After he left I packed and took taxi to Baan Silom , 100 baht tip included. Driver had streak of good luck as I picked him up when he was unloading 2 ladies in front of Bayioke and on arrival in soi 3 there was guy who promptly took my seat in the back. As usual in Baan Silom they told me to come in 1 hr because room was not ready so I went to the market only to find it empty. Then I noticed what I already saw, despite being Friday traffic was very low. Guy on reception told me today is Queen’s birthday- holiday, that’s why. So I decided to celebrate in style and took BTS to KMan spa in Spahan Kwai. Quite easy to find as they have sign poking out and above all other signs in soi. Only two boys on duty I was explained but both looked enticing so as usual I picked up one with broader smile. I was informed his minimum tip is 800 and massage just 500 for 1.5 hr because of holiday’s promotion. It was fun. Massage was good , boy, Myanmarese very friendly and very well endowed so we had busy , fun loaded 1.5 hr. My standard tip for 1.5 hr is 1500 so he was very happy with well deserved that. In no uncertain terms he expressed willingness to go to my hotel for the night like he knew already I like LT. Just in case, we exchanged Line but today I had other plans being in love with TT at Tawan. We will see about tomorrow I told him but I’m not sure as it’s my last day. Somehow I decided to return via MRT from Suthisan station and since it’s quite a distance I took motorsai there. One of worst decision in my long life. I’m frequent user of motorsai taxis, never had a problem , even if many people say it’ s dangerous to ride those. Today I learned what they mean. Very second I sat down he speeded before I even managed to put my hand on the handle. Why I didn’t fall I don’t know to this day. I managed to clutch to something while he was driving like crazy, thanks God traffic was quite light but fact I’m still alive is not much short of miracle. SCARY SHIT that ride was! For dinner I got invitation from reader and we went to his friend’s restaurant behind the Silom Center . Food was tasty , beer was cold and conversation lively. We decided to check New Twilight later on, agreed to meet in front of that bar at 21.15 and we parted ways for now. Barely I managed to enter hotel when RAIN started, quite impressive at that so I Lined reader we better delay trip until it will be over as Bangkok rains , no matter how heavy, have habit of suddenly stopping after hour or two. But he answered he is already there having good luck catching taxi just before rain, soon I was on my way because rain was already turning to drizzle and then stopped. New Twilight was fairly busy with few bottles opened and some boys and mamasans siting with customers, we exchanged our opinions on boys on the stage , tipped out favorites, me of course using already patented Vinapu Tuck and then show started. One of dancers looked familiar but I couldn’t recall why until moment of enlightenment came , L, I saw him in Moonlight few years ago. Just to make sure I confirmed it with mamasan, one who hails from Moonlight also. So I may be set for tomorrow I guess although I have great hopes for my next today’s step. After the show reader went his way and I marched straight to Tawan around the corner with mission to off TT, most handsome hunk there, friendly, very proportionately built and sporting nice equipment. As always lot of friendly smiles, although I was not smiling since TT was sitting with some crowd, he came to shake hands but when I asked him if he goes with me he said he is already booked with one of guys he was drinking with. Dreams shattered so I turned to their resident twink for a help for tonight but he obviously well informed about my habits told me he can’t go because he has a job and is not available for long time. Since K was gone my choice was either Dum or Line to that massage boy from KMan spa but before I made my mind TT came to tell me that yes, he will go with me LT for the same tip I was giving K. Boy’s telegraph working full time I guess. Being enamored with him I gladly accepted, it was what I expected anyways. We skipped dinner as he was not hungry but when passing by 7/11 in front of Baan Silom I asked if he needs something as I always do. He said yes so we went in , bought some drinks and thing he wanted – headsets for 300 baht. I was so happy to buy it for object of my sights. In the room it was exactly as I hoped for and expected, great body , great thing, great conversation , lots of steam , I was in heaven. What a catch thought I ! I was hoping for more of the same in the morning but it was not meant to be. It was still dark, just pre dawn when wailing started. “I can’t sleep, you snore, you are touching me , I don’t like this , I ‘m tired , I want to go home” this kind of things. I was not that defensive and right away used line I got from another boy Bos from Tawan few years ago “ I’m not paying you to sleep’ , but it did not help much. It was no sense to continue angry exchange in such circumstance , I accepted my dreams being shattered to dust , told him “Ok , you can go” . Gave him his tip and it was painful to see he is counting money, only second time this trip guy tipped was counting money. Complete derailment ! Yes , I know I should reduce tip but I was so disappointed I just wanted it to be over and fast and was in no mood to argue. Short time it would be life time experience to be remembered forever but Long Time was bad idea but who could know? Specially for that kind of money? Few nights ago HC had similar complains but he soldiered on till we missed breakfast. No such danger today as I was up at down , upset at that, so did not even go to sleep. Made my tea and did some reading, smartphoning and tableting . Being upset I did not even feel I’m hungry in the morning. So day 19 did not finish with me singing Edith Piaffs “ Vie en Rose “ (spelling)

Day 18 Breakfast was included in the rate so we went there, restaurant serving it it’s on 81 floor and whole affair is quite opulent with farang and various Asian dishes. I actually pig out on dragon fruit which I like very much. Looking around one could see that hotel is VERY popular with Indian or at least Indian looking tourists. View was a bonus and after breakfast we went up to the top to see vista from there, you don’t even need to walk around as in certain hours floor is moving slowly. Then I walked Dit to the bus stop , it’s from him I learned that bus 77 goes straight from Silom to Prathunam and then decided to have a walk. Just a walk , so went by BTS to Saphan Kwai and walked all the way from there to hotel , It took me only 1.5 hr. , not a bad in that heat. I liked it as it was nice to observe how city changes block after block, not to mention all that eye candy. At 3 p.m. I was expecting X and indeed he lined me at 3 that he is parking car so I went to reception area to meet him there. I need to mention that this trip I did not have even one case when boy did not show up at agreed time , give or take 5 minutes the most. Felt like Switzerland. At elevator where I met X I was bit surprised with his shorts, not only on short side but very tatty as directed by current boy fashion, I noticed even lady at reception where he registered his parking ticket raised her brew while sporting not so discreet smile. Did not bother me but X reflected that Thai people are conservative and may think his dress is disrespectful. So much for cultural sensitivities. View impressed him indeed and he had fantastic idea, just took quilt from one of beds, placed it on the floor by the window and said it’s most suitable place to have fun . Indeed who will see anything in such a height? We did not manage to change dresses to Adam’s when it was knock to a door . Who the hell it’ll be? But I opened and it was waiter from hotel with box, inside was small chocolate cake and sign ‘Happy Birthday”, how the hell they knew? Most likely from registration. It was very nice and unexpected gesture and cake was quite yummy too. Not the we spent much time tasting it since sheets in the floor were tempting. I like X very much indeed but today he seemed was even more hot and clingy or may be it was me who was more clingy because he seemed soo hot. As usual no rush meeting . At one point he suggested we order some food which I agreed , after all I was on the run up to now on that dragon fruit from the breakfast. Another nice surprise, servings were big and tasty and price was surprisingly low at 420 for two plus of course tip. After he left I took motorsai (80) to Patpong, had round of drinks with buys and few members at Hot Male then where else ? to Tawan. Enthusiastically welcomed by Dum , K, M and TT who noticed probably I like him so much and made sure he is sitting on my right. K yielded place on my left to Dum but he knew why I came there tonight. After the show I ask him to dress and soon we were on our way to Happy Beer to have dinner , treat my friendly waitresses with red wine and listen to another round of their praises of how nice K, cousin of one of them , is. No need to look for taxi as K has motorbike , we found spot to park it overnight and again not disturbed by anybody on reception we went up to the room, my birthday dream come true hunk and me. We still had a bit of cake to try before going to the bed with the view. As I mentioned yesterday room had 2 beds. Somehow all 4 guests in the room : Besty, Dit, X nad K , picked up one on the right. Surprising , at least for me. Do day 18 finished on doubly sweet note , hunk in chocolate cake. Long live Baiyoke Sky hotel

Has anyone stayed recently at the Banyan Tree? I only stayed there once ages ago and well before the Banyan Tree took it over. Am I correct in thinking it was a Westin? It's selling point was it was an all suite hotel. But I found both the living rooms and bedrooms very small in area. I did not stay a second time. I wonder if Banyan Tree knocked down walls to increase the areas. I know of many who want to go to the Vertigo Bar on the roof. I've been a few times and find it quite boring. usually it has been crowded and with Bangkok being so flat there really is not much to see. We have started going to the Speakeasy Bar at the top of the Muse Hotel on Langsuan. It has become popular again but there a lots of tables. When it rains, it has two levels of interior seating. The snack menu is also very good at reasonable prices.

I don't think I mentioned anywhere that Bayioke is 4 star if only because only star rating I care about in Thailand is 7 1/2 Michelin stars Foodland Patpong was awarded long ago along with Unesco Heritage plate. While location is a little bit , how to say ? less shiny perhaps, I don't know why It would be undesirable. Certainly I did not see nor sense any danger there and as I said shopping is better than Silom or Chatuchak if I know what shopping is which is not sure thing. Yes , it's a distance from Silom gay venues but it's few minutes 80-100 baht taxi ride. Yes I paid 200 for tuk-tuk but it could be easily bargained down because driver while quoting told us right away ' no turists now". I did not feel like haggling over 50 baht. I will try Banyan Tree next time I have urge to waste money on some better accommodation as I usually do every trip for 2-3 nights just to treat myself and boost my self esteem but I used word ' waste' deliberately because I never really see that difference in amenities and comfort justifies difference in price. If you think Banyan tree doubling Baiyoke price is also offering doubled comfort of stay I'm curious to check what that doubled comfort is next time I can. But I understand others, like you, may feel differently. The same can be said about restaurants and of all things , boys indeed. I'm in that category as more often than not I'm happier with guys I tipped higher than standard or market. Since I stay in Baiyoke already what will be a point to read comments by people I don't even know on Trip Advisor ? I have my own experience and it was very good. If somebody did not like things I liked or overlooked it that complainer issue , not mine. I do read at times posts on Agoda for hotels I know from own experience and one thing is sure , there always will be people who will be complaining about anything, including water being too wet and along of them will be those who will praise everything happy that water was available at all. While I also like European vacations ( going there soon ) any price over 60 euros is bleeding my heart dry. very touchy subject, yes I did and when transferring my trip phots from phone to my computer I did something I still don't know what that pics disapeared from phone but can't them find on my comp anywhere. So short answer is : regretfully no Looks kind of far but it's really few minutes hop by taxi with benefit everybody knows where Baiyoke is. Even by bus 77 it will be 10-15 minutes max . Taxi from hotel to Patpong will be 80-100 generous tip included.

Day 17 In the morning K dropped me at Foodland but decided to skip breakfast so I had it alone but not for long as few minutes later his bar friend M, the masseur , was passing by , saw me through the window and joined in but just for juice as he was after breakfast already . Today another change of hotels as for today and tomorrow I decided to splurge a bit and treat myself with the view so booked myself junior suite in so called Sky zone in Baiyoke Sky Hotel. I assumed it’s very high and hoped for a view. It will be first time since 2001 when I will not sleep in Bangkok in the Silom area. I took a bit circular way , BTS to Phaya Thai and then 1 stop by airport train ARL to Ratchaprop and then short walk which did not make much sense as it cost me 30+15=45 baht and taxi would be 80-100 and bus 77 may be 10, both being faster but I had fun doing that way. While hotel stands impressively tall, vicinity is less so being market area , looks messy and unkempt. Getting to reception requires elevator to 18 floor where one changes to another set of elevators to floors 19-77. To get to restaurant area on even higher floor /breakfast on 81 st/ or to moving platform on top of the building / 83 + walk up / there’s another set of elevators. Good news is , for hotel residents view from the top is free. Ordinary visitors are using another elevator from ground floor. On reception I got good and bad news. Good was that I can check in right away even if it was only noon on condition I accept room with two twin beds instead of booked King size one. No problem at all. Twin beds are not that small in Thailand, at least not in decent hotels. Bad news was freezing information that for guests brought after 6 p.m. I will be charged 1000 baht and they require 3000 baht deposit. About 1000 baht I said nothing just thinking ‘lets see “ , for 3000 I was prepared with cash but since it was in small denomination I requested that the same package will be returned to me which they approved placing it in the envelope with my name and amount. I got room on 65 th floor and as soon I opened door I swear in my native language. It was swear of good impression instead of mellow ‘ wow’ or even ‘ o fuck ! “ . It was room with the view facing River and what view it was ! Half Bangkok from Swampy to new parliament building, all through panoramic windows. Room itself was impressive to with separate dining and sleeping areas, couch , coffee table, regular table , desk and separate a/c for sitting and sleeping areas. Bathroom was size of small hotel room in say, Nantra Silom with bathtube and separate shower. All that for about 1800-1900. I always say I don’t like better hotels because I find it harder to leave the room and it was precisely the case. I made a tea and was sitting at the table admiring the view. Not idle though since I organized in meantime arrival of Besty , the masseur. He was as impressed as was I , I even offered to take him to the top to check view but he declined so we went to the business and first business decision was which bed we will be using, one on the left or on the right? As before very good session although massage part was quite short as it looked that he really likes me so we shortened massage part in order to extend part “ I really like you” . It worked beyond expectations. Now , almost three weeks after I returned I think my biggest mistake that trip was underusing him , he should be my guest daily on regular basis . I think my pro LT bias clouded my judgement as he was not interested in LT saying simply ‘short time is better” when I asked. After he left I went to check area, I must say that when comes to shopping, markets and shops there at Pratunam beat both Silom area and Chatuchak market in both in prices and selection. Of course we are talking everyday stuff , not real Rolexes and Channels. That wandering brought me in Phaya Thai station are where I decided to see what ‘s going on in Ganymede spa which is located in no exit soi just by the station. Three guys on duty, I picked up smiling one as usual, I was explained that his minimum tip is 1500 for 1.50 hr session which is exactly my standard. While guy was handsome and hunky, massage was strong and professional, afters were non existing. He did not make any suitable motions, I was waiting for him and 90 minutes passed , me being just thoroughly massaged as to compensate for shortage of this on session with Besty. As somebody noticed when I reported it originally , that’s danger of places with high minimum tip. But it was not a case few days ago when I went to Jey Spa ? Anyways no harm done other than bit disappointment, my second massage this trip with afters absent. From there straight to Patpong to meet world record holder Dit with 15 offs and take him for our 16th. Who greeted me in Dreamboys door ?. No one less than Soviet, guy mentioned few times already, last seen few day ago in Dreamboys Pattaya where he was one of 5 boys drinking with me in the bar. So much for Dreamboys hiring only Thais , Soviet is Cambodian. It turned out he tries his luck there. Having different plans for tonight I forced 100 baht into his briefs, not even very deep, kind of Vinapu Tuck Light as I had that pleasure in the past on quite a few occasions. I checked stage where Dit was looking worried seeing my antics by the door, motioned him to come over, told mamasan that I’m skipping drinks part, paid 500 off fee and of we went to G’Bangkok for the dinner , my first meal since that M accompanied breakfast in the morning. Owner discretely whispered “ change today ‘ since Dit is no hunk and he saw me with hunks only so far. To get to hotel I decided we need limousine on such glorious occasion so we took tuk-tuk for o a whooping 200 baht but great events demand great expense. When we arrived I realized that my refrigerator is beer deprived so we went to 7/11 and on the way Dit spotted some shoes he was interested in . Since he bargained price down to 350 I financed that, in fact I suggested we buy 2 pairs but he was always modest in his requests and declined. Nobody stopped us by the elevators to demand that 1000 extra fee so we went undisturbed and while in elevator I noticed he still has his bar number attached to his jeans only half covered by the t-shirt ! In the room we had 4 or 5 years to catch since our last meeting in Sept 2017 ( I just checked my register) so while talking we dried those bottles we just bought. I asked about his brother Fai whom I recall as great masseur and learned he works in Sathorn Spa , asked why he left Arena, asked how his daughter is doing and learned she is like me and likes boys he said. It was different off than all others, not much fire left after so many offs and years and when we went to bed it was like sleeping with husband of 20 years not a guy half of my age. But I was so happy that next morning , 18th of this trip, morning of my birthday I could welcome it in his company.

it's actually one of members idea I borrowed from his report in the spring. But I like the place not only because food is edible and not expensive but also because is opened 7/24 and often you can meet boys eating there or other members filling up. Also passerby's can easily notice us inside and come to say hallo. Interestingly perhaps , few times ( at least 3 I recall) when I suggested to offed boys we can eat there and they say they don't like food at Foodland , off did not work very well so now I'm on alert. Good point on their reality, sadly true, 100 baht is bus ticket where I live but 2 meals on the street for boys there

Day 16 Finally !!! after week long break breakfast at Unesco heritage Foodland Patpong. Unfortunately past 9am so full price, one can’t have everything I guess. For few days X is Line’ing me how much he is missing me so today at noon we agreed to meet. I was waiting for him in front of the hotel but he parked his car and entered lobby straight from parking surprising me when called my name. I guess he must be familiar with the place. After week long break I expected reunion to be bit steamy and it was. He is doing very well of me but somehow we are avoiding any routine and I feel I don’t have enough of him. Already asked him for after tomorrow session and had good reason for it as we learn in due course. Lazy afternoon wandering here and there and when passing by Tawan , M like the siren lured me in for a massage. He sensed I’m in good mood after last night with A and meeting with X, two extraordinary hunks in row and managed to extract 250 extra for a shirt , picture of which he showed me on his phone. I should ask him day or two later to show me that shirt, oh , well. In the evening anddy invited me for a dinner , since we both like G’Bangkok it’s where we ended. I have feeling that my claim that I don’t like soi 4 is losing credibility very fast. ( I still don’t like it ). From there to Hot Male for round of drinks. I had short chat with Dit , who was smoking on Dreamboy’s verandah across the soi and confirmed that I'm offing him tomorrow and then to Tawan for the show. Cordially greeted like part time celebrity and full time ATM got seat in front of the stage , surely Dum , K and TT were seating with me . I feel I’m falling for TT more and more and even asked if one day he will go with me, he assured me that he will gladly do but even with all that lust I have for him I was in mood to take home K, AXK day it seems. After show and tip distribution ( I need to start making enemies there in order to have excuse to save money ) we jumped on his motorbike and went to Happy Beer Garden to have dinner , and listen to round of praises of K by his cousin , waitress there. All in good mood and I like vibe there. Then short hop via emptying Thainya to Sala Daeng and another night of massive K’s embraces. I had that reflection that today, day 16 , seemed plain and boring but when comes to pleasures of flesh with 3 such hunks in one day and M thrown in and he is not undernourished twink either , it was one of best days of that trip.

Once a guy did that to me too, but it wasnt as direct. I told the guy im going to a bar, and asked if he want to join me or ill come back to pick him up so he can still earn tips/drinks etc back at the bar. He said he will follow me coz he knows someone at that bar. I, happy to have someone to tag along with me, is more than happy to pay for his drink at that bar. Of course, he introduce me his friend there, luckily already doing good with a customer of his own. So i dont need to dispense another boy's drink but tips the boy still. At that time though, i see that he is just doing his part to help out his friends/brothers who might not do as well, of course not using his own money but ours haha. I recalled one other guy did tips the waiter and guys at door when he went out with me after i off him. To his credit, he used his own money, but of course seeing this, i added his tips accordingly. Of course all these antics wont matter if their service back at hotel doesnt measure up. In the end, as long as im happy and these antics didnt really hurt my wallet that much, i rarely let it ruin my day. Sometimes i also forget that some of those who work in the bars rarely gets much tips from any customers (door guy for example) and i appreciate it when boys show me that sharing some of the wealth with the people around you is a good thing especially when we are more fortunate than them. Having said this, i wouldnt appreciate a guy who is my regulars, who shouldve have know my way of tippings etc, to treat me like ATM. Its not really the money but the feeling it made me, somehow feels a little disrespect, as if i wont tip myself. Though i am guilty of forgiving this if i like the guy enough hahahaha.

My story is that on my first trip to BKK in 2003 I met a wonderful guy at Tomahawk Bar, where Tawan is now located. He was also a single Dad with two young boys. We had many great years of meeting there in BKK. My final time to meet him he was working at BBB Bar as a Waiter. He saw me come in and immediately wanted to take me out and down the Soi! Turns out it was to meet both of his STR8 sons who were working in the Bar and the Restaurant there. Both just as handsome as their Dad. Wonderful memories...

Day 14 Today we waked up in time to consume breakfast in hotel. I could see that K is very careful with what he eats . He knows that his body is his earning asset and not only takes very good care about himself but also mentioned few of his bar friends who are slacking in body maintenance and it unfortunately shows. Breakfast in Furama Sathorn is not opulent but adequate with choice of farang and Asian dishes and I consider it to be good value. I went for a stroll to Lumpini and around noon returned to the room as I was expecting repeat visit from Besty, guy who found me on Grindr and offered massage. We met him already in day 6 . Like before he arrived on the dot. Today’ massage was as good as week ago and afters even better , I suspect that he kind of likes me, definitely was not in rush to go. Unfortunately when I investigated long time option he politely declined ‘ short time is better”. Few days ago Christian PFC alerted me about some ghost festival in Makasan’s railway yards so I , railway man by heart for entire life , couldn’t let it pass by even if my interest in ghosts is non existing. I went there by BTS and then airport link to Ratchaprop station and then walked. What surprised me was that it was well attended by ghost lovers and railway buffs, free admission , temperature and proof of vaccination check at the gate. With great interest I surveyed old steam engines and railway carriages, some well restored , others just abandoned to their fate. One of those I used as a place to eat lunch I purchased on the site and as often on those kind of festivals, public seem to be mostly interested in eating something judging but brisk trade food stalls made. Then made quite a walk along ARL line through part of Bangkok rarely visited even if it’s just steps from airport line . There it looked as third world’ backwater city even with all those skyscrapers in the background. Dilapidated houses, muddy alleys, dark shops selling only basics but also certain charm of being authentic. Around Makasan station civilization appeared again and all that stroll with injection of oxygen into brain from walking in the open gave me an idea that since I’m close to Sukhumvit area, why not to visit Jey Spa in soi 43. It was fast hop on MRT plus BTS, 10 minutes stroll and I was in front of familiar townhouse where spa is located. As I mentioned in my December report there’s no sign but shoes in front of entrance are betraying the place. I was hoping that Ken2 ( numbered because they have another Ken there as well as he explained), guy I had in December will be there. Mamasan inside explained that if I did not make reservation they have only 3 guys on duty but one of them turned to be familiar face. So Ken 2 it is. He did not recall me, even if I told him we met 5 months ago and that I remember he has scar from appendix removal surgery. Massage fee 800, his minimum tip for 1.5 session 1800, one can see that spa is located in somewhat upscale area of the city , full of gated villas and condos. But massage and after service were excellent, guy very well but not overwhelmingly built and good conversationalist as a bonus so I gave him 2000 and left very happy. Today I had plan to go to Moonlight, if only because one of their floor guys, A, very muscular guy whom I offed in the past few times somehow learned I’m in Bangkok and sent me Line message he is missing me . No doubt, no doubt. So I went. First to see me was Bee, my first off in December, right after I was released from hotel prison waiting for test results. Soon on the stage I noticed not one but two guys smiling at me , A was one but also Myanmarese , very funny and talkative guy I offed from Hot Male in December for private show with T. Since guys are rotating by two , soon A left the stage and approached me so I invited him for a drink. He did not waste much time and asked me right away if he can go with me today, option which was on the table in my mind but he suggested tip which was more than I could pay tonight being bit depleted of cash . This did not derail him and he said I can pay him in dollars but I got brighter idea and told him I will return tomorrow to pick him up. For tonight I decided who will be listening to my snoring for more agreeable compensation. So when A returned to the stage I lined infallible V if he is available, of course he was asking for few minutes as he just came back from work ( he has full time shift job in some supermarket or mall ). I finished my drink , smiled at A and Bee who happen to be on the stage and left to meet V in front of 7/11 in soi 3. What surprised me was that he was coming from direction of my hotel like he knew. I suspected some intelligence work but explanation was simpler- it turned out he lives in the parallel soi. As always great time including polite question if he can rape me but answer was negative. Whenever I off him I always have feeling that he is grateful for an extra income and tries to be good boy as to secure next time. So day 14 finished in familiar and assuring embraces

+1 The time, effort and money spent on this experience was good investment because it will, going forward, save you the same many times over. I’ve learned never to push the envelope. If I don’t see interest on the face of potential off from first eye contact, I just narrow my list. That’s why I believe in-person venues will always beat the apps. I still maintain overall that I’ve had the highest ratio of good times to so-so experiences in massage shops than in the bars. For whatever reason, the conditions in the shops seem to work to my advantage more often than not. Maybe it’s the fact that you’re both alone in room and good chance that both of you are naked. That’s always a good start to me. And it’s a reasonable outlay. You’re committed to paying one fixed cost and one variable (tip) cost. No drinks to buy and no off fee. But that’s me. It may not work as as well for others.

I'm not saying no, but not this trip as it was my last night in Pattaya and I returned to Bangkok as we learn when I post next day later today (or tomorrow for those who are in different time zone ). While I liked those two multi boys nights I must state that my preference is still one on one . Multi boys may be more fun but one on one is more romantic. That gives me idea for next time if they still be there and I find them still attractive - dinner together than drinking in the room for fun part , then boys sent away with exception of one designated to be romantic partner for that night. Why I say " if I find them still attractive " ? This is a life . I don't meant particularly those three but most likely most of us experienced it in the past . Guy we salivated about last trip , all of the sudden doesn't seem to be so glorious now even if nothing changed. Or even worse - he doesn't seem to pay any attention to us, avoiding even eye contact or pretending we never met. Of course it works both ways, guy previously overlooked now shines like a star and one who sported blank eye then, now is all smiles and winks. Actual off seems to be often breaking point. I used to have big hots for certain model offed him twice despite some antics on first off and only after 2nd time when those antics were repeated I realized that hots are gone for good. On another hand X featuring in my trip stories never paid any attention to me when he was in bar to extend then in order to off him I searched help of another member but after first , somewhat forced off we hit it on with multiple repeats. No double my handsomeness is the factor, otherwise what it could be ?

better not considering that saints on icons are mostly dead and I don't even start with me being saint. as for comparison of Bangkok and Pattaya parts of trip, yes Pattaya was more adventurous with all those crowded beds but Bangkok guys were more hunky so at end of day I think I liked Bangkok better, no surprise here.

Day 11 Bay View restaurant was not opened yet so for breakfast we went by baht bus all the way to Kiss and despite early ( for Pattaya ) hours they were quite busy, in fact I think we took last free table. We parted ways after that , I went again to exchange money, what else at such a pace and to Internet café to catch with my e-mails. Then some aimless wandering here and there. Early afternoon I took motorsai , just for sake of supporting economy ( 60 baht) to Jomtien Complex to see Nara in his shop for good bye 1.5 hr massage. Driver dumped me on the main road and while passing by in one of massage shops I noticed quite handsome and muscly , heavily tattooed hunk and took note of his presence just in case. But I kept my plan , had massage with Nara, tipped him 2000 as it was our last meeting this trip and invited him for a meal to French restaurant on the corner as I wanted to taste that duck leg mentioned yesterday. It was great but not better than one I’m making I noted proudly. After meals we kissed out good bye, Nara is not shy guy. He went to his shop and I went to look for songtaew but recalled that handsome masseur and decided to see if he is still there. He was so I just motioned and we went inside for another massage, session was good, he was muscular and well endowed , kissy, huggy but there was something I did not like –strange odor coming from his skin. Not smell, not even unpleasant but it bothered me. No idea what it could be – soap, some skin cream or other cosmetic, diet, result of taking some medication or substance , whatever it was , it spoiled my experience. I did not say anything, tipped him my normal rate 1000 / hr and went home bit disappointed as he was prime material for a night long session. Oh well , I need to find some substitution. And I got an idea who it will be, P and R from my first night in Pattaya and yesterday party in Dreamboys. So I freshened up, shaved and went to Pickety for people watching. My yesterday’s guy was busy with guests but it was Ok as my mind was fixed. After finishing beer changed sides to BBB, ordered some drink and asked mamasan about my guys. There weren’t there yet but he assured me they will come as they are at the gym. Oiled with 100 baht tip , he even called them to confirm. P showed soon , R bit later. L , our companion 2 night ago seeing what is going on stopped by hoping he will be third but ‘just two tonight “ I said , consoled him with red note, paid 1000 off fee and off we went to Bay View for a dinner passing by Suwit shop. He was not there but was keeping watchful eye from somewhere because soon after we sat down for a meal I got Line message ‘ two boys tonight my Casanova “ from him. In 7/11 we stocked on few beers and went to the room. Both are very talkative , P more on shy side , R quite opposite , undressed right away as he explained he doesn’t like chain of dress when inside. They told me a lot about their lives and friendship and at one point, I swear it was not my idea, P asked if his brother B whom we met last evening in Dreamboys can join. Holly molly thought I but of course agreed, in few minutes phone rung and P went to pick him up downstairs. He looked even more handsome than yesterday and perhaps most manly of them three , explained by age difference. Thankfully we were well stocked with beer and also few snacks so we feed him and fun continued until time came to go to bed. I had 2 spare towels so showering was no problem but to keep things civilized I suggested I will shower with each of them separately. After all we have two brothers here. Other guys were familiar with procedure from 2 days ago, B, last in line to get wet was visibly shy, I sense he must be new in the business and never showered with customer before but he soldiered on with smile. When we emerged it looked that other two boys not only made some order on the table after all that drinks and snacks but also thought well about bed arrangement reserving right half of bed for us two latecomers. That way brothers were separated by R and me , eliminated any brotherly awkwardness in such a situation. No , we did not have any foursome, that would be gross. I had three guys with me to enjoy their company one by one so obviously at one point I switched places with R in order for P not to feel abandoned or discriminated . In process I understood what it means to sleep with the phone, R literally was clutching his all night. It was fun and thanks to mutual co-operation and understanding we avoided anything we possibly could feel uneasy about recalling it later. Sure R emerged in the morning from under the sheets sporting glorious erection but from reaction of other two it was clear he is not shy in their room either , they all live together in one room with one more guy who I understand doesn’t work in a bar. Morning distribution of tips ended such fabulous day 11, they declined offer of breakfast saying that they have food at home they want to eat otherwise it may be unusable later. Thank you my glorious boys I thought after they left, what a night !

You are not there for a Latin lover experience or even an Omar Sharif lover. It's wham-bam-thank-you-sam. Aquarius only provides an uncomfortable massage table that you wouldn't want to spend much time on anyway. There is so much gay sex going on in any moslem culture but it's the don't-ask-don't-tell variety. And no, they don't bang you like a female. They bang you like a worthless meat object that exists solely for their penile stimulation. Excuse me while I jump in a cold shower.