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Yes I’ve finally arrived after putting off the decision for quite a while. But following the introduction of the simple Thai Pass procedure I had no excuse to overcome my apprehension that it would turn out to be a mistake. i booked the £650 airfare through Expedia on Qatar Airline departing Manchester and changing flights almost half way at Doha. I thought about paying for business class but my economy upbringing caused me to save £800 with the penalty of 13 hours of mild discomfort. Arriving at Subanaphumi at 8.20 pm I found emigration an extremely smooth and efficient process putting the recent chaos at U.K. airports to shame. My Thai Pass was subject to a preliminary check during the long walk from the gate, but there were no queues at all at the desks. On approaching I hesitated when I saw that evidence of a hotel reservation was one of the requirements. I had a reservation at the Ambiance via booking.com but I had not brought a print out or saved the evidence on my phone or iPad. But the Pass, the Visa waver, and my passport got me through. Approaching the carrousel I was surprised to find my bag already circling and 5 minutes later I was on my way via the motorway. It could not have been much more that 2 hours from stepping off the plane to stepping into the Ambiance Hotel, where I had booked 3 nights. i was not intending to go out but after unpacking and establishing that I had omitted several items like my iPhone/ iPad charger and after taking a shower I ventured into a very quiet Boystown, which nevertheless looked exactly the same as during my last visit. Taking a motor bike taxi I arrived at Sunee to see that the only sign of significant life was Winner Boys, where outside there was two tables with boys entertaining I think 3 customers, who had recently abandoned the interior Gogo. Two boys joined me wearing rather sexy speedos to chat about the current state of the gay economy, which I helped by buying two boy drinks and giving both a tip. I had to steel myself to hold to my plan of not offing, rather to have a good sleep and wind down after the journey (I’m really too old for this long distance travel and sex tourism). So ended my first day by writing this report.

2. So around 8.30 pm, I reached Boyztown and first looked into Toy Boys. They only had three boys in total, all in boxers, two were talking to each other, and one standing at the door greeting customers. Since there were no customers yet and the mamasan in question was no where to be seen, I couldn't come in to ignore him so I left and decided to visit one of the soil's beer bars. The three beer bars currently in operation in Boyztown are Pikky, Serene and Panorama, situated right next to each other and in that order (from Pattayasaisong Road entrance). Both Panorama and Serene had virtually no customers at the time, while Pikky, the smallest one - just a quarter the size of Panorama, already had quite a few. It was not hard to see why: they had around 10 twinky boys, many of whom I found cute while the other bars had only one or two staffers on duty. So I sat at the Pikky bar, their front table, to watch the soi traffic, which was typically light on a Monday night. Ordered my drink and invited two boys over, one Thai and one Lao, both of whom I already knew from the apps. Thai boy used to work in Winner Boy bar (the one I mentioned in the Winner Boy bar thread a few weeks ago: he came to work and stripped down to his undies just to pull up again to go with a customer). He's really skinny and small built, gay and bottom-only. So just to tease him, I asked if customers ever asked him to top. There was one before Covid, a Chinese woman, who was into small-boy looking types. He told me, he didn't want to go because he knew he wouldn't be able to perform, but mamasan kept pressuring him, saying the customer would pay as much as 10K. So he went and of course, couldn't get it up (he also admitted he has a rather small "tool"), and hence, had to use his fingers (showing me his fingers while telling this - they don't look like they are great tools either). Probably because of that, he got "only" 5000 instead of the promised 10K. At that point, Boyz Boyz Boyz started their boy parade, which was put on pause for the last two years. Thai boy said they just restarted yesterday and it was not just BBB business. It's more like Pride parade and all the bars in the soi pooled their talents (the banner-carrier drag queen is actually Castro's staff and there were more than 30 boy participants), but the boys in Pikky stayed out of it because they were shy. Then there was a smart-dressing elderly farang in wheelchair, who wheeled himself in. Now it's Lao boy's turn, who got an off from that customer, volunteered to share his experience. He said the guy was paralyzed from waist down and didn't take off his pants. The boy just worked second base up, nipple playing, kissing and all. Having heard something I probably shouldn't have, I look at that farang with admiration, thinking: when I reach his age and if I ever were in a similarly unfortunate situation, would I still have it in me to keep going and enjoy life like that? To the gentleman himself and others, it was probably a patronizing thought, but it was inspiring to me. Lost in my thoughts for a while, until Lao boy brought me back to reality, asking "Are you okay?" Although Thai boy's look appeals more to me, I kinda connected better with Lao boy (also gay and bottom vers), who is more observant and also speaks better English. While I was there, another farang customer left with three boys in tow. I watched them walking away and Lao boy, as if he could read my thoughts, said: It's not like that. He took care of them during Covid times. He said with feeling. To lighten the mood, I asked would they be okay if I off them both at the same time. Both nodded. Then I added: but you have to do each other, I'm just there to watch. Lao boy was like "What???" then said "I can't but he (Thai boy) can f*ck me". They discussed this in Thai then Thai boy burst out laughing "No way!!!" Speaking of threesome, in my experience, straight guys often have little problem with this arrangement as to them, it's just work (like you are asked to do a gay porn together). Straight boys I know back in Vietnam certain don't. Some even offer "a discount" if you take their "brother" as well. On the other hand, gay boys who are "sisters" with each other might mind. My previous offers for threesome was turned down twice in Pattaya (one in Toy Boy and another in Power Boy). In each case, both boys wanted to go with me but separately. You can off him today, off me tomorrow. They wouldn't do it if their "sister" is around. It's too weird, they said. Enough joke. I didn't intend to off anyone anyway after my session with Kiwi earlier. Gave each boy 200 and mamasan 100 as tips. My Pikky soft drink was 80B, boy drink was 200 each (they get to keep 100), off fee is 300 (boys get to keep 100), so an off means boy can earn at least 1700 from drink, off fee and his ST fee. I thinks it's fair. For comparisons, Lao boy told me Toy Boys charges 500 off fee (boys also get to keep 100). Before Covid, a Viet boy I offed from Luck Boys in Bangkok told me he earned some from boy drink but nothing from the off fee (or bar fine). On my way out, I walked past Toy Boys again. They now had 5 boys (one got offed and went with his customer to Pikky) but still no sight of the mamasan I'm so eager to run into again. Maybe another time. I took the bus baht back to Jomtien Complex. (to be continued)

As mentioned in my first post here, I'm a long-time follower of this forum (going back around 15 years, on and off) but rarely posted anything because from the great fountain of information you guys shared, I don't think I have anything new to add. Once I started sharing (just three weeks ago), I found that I do and should have done it many years ago Although Jason1975 says I should write trip reports, I'm not really up to a full report so I just share tidbits of my Thailand trips and occasionally take a chance to give you some info about Vietnam's scene too since I'm mainly based in Vietnam. I gonna start this tidbit thread with stories about a cheating mamasan in Toy Boys. This week, I came directly to Pattaya from the Bangkok airport (using Nam taxi, 1000B, they gave me detailed instructions of how to find the driver: Arrival Hall, walk outside and find Entrance No 3, then look for a car plated XXYY). Staying in AIYAREE PLACE just across street from Jomtien Complex (spacious room with a double and also a single bed, which I can use for massage, a separated space with room apparatus, arm chairs and table, perfect for working remotely, swimming pool and small gym, included breakfast buffet and also 400B hotel credit for lunch/dinner in the in-house restaurant with a pretty good selection of Western and Thai food, all of these for just 1100B/night, also no problem with guests to the room) Chatted with a boy on Blued for a massage deal. If I'm gonna meet a guy on app, I prefer if he can do massage and if I can just book for massage only first (in case the guy shows up and looks totally different from his picture). This guy seems professional with his itemized price list (shown in the picture). Some members may know him too (the one who keeps promoting his own laundry service all the time and I find it quite cute. He showed up, and just one look at him (small-built, slim fit, smooth skin, boyish look), I know I'm gonna follow up with some after-massage services. He's indeed professional, bringing everything (water-proof tarp, towel, a selection of massage oils, relaxing music, he just forgot candles hehe). He also speaks decent English (used to have some foreign boyfriends from China and Japan), so we chatted a lot during the session. It turns out he used to work in Toy Boys in Boyztown about 4 years ago. My first visit of the bar many years ago left quite a bad taste in my mouth. I was greeted by this mamasan, who is Chinese-Vietnamese and can speak Mandarin, Vietnamese, Thai and English. It felt so good to talk to someone in my mother tongue in a foreign bar, so I sought advice from him about everything. It was my last night in Pattaya and I liked 2 boys so decided (a first for me) to off both of them. Mamasan presented me with a handwritten bill including my drink, boy drinks, bar fines, boy's tips (1500 each) and also a charge for bar's short-time room (400 per boy). He told me he collected the boy's tips in advance just for safety and that even though I don't use the short time room at the bar, they still charge for it as a rule. I guess I was really naive at the time and probably trusted the bastard too much because he's Vietnamese too. To think that I even gave him a decent tip for all of his "troubles"! Only when I was back to my hotel and talked more with the boys who spoke rather limited English, I found out that the short-time charges were totally bullshit. If I didn't leave town the next day, I would come back to the bar and raise the issue with the management. The next time I set foot in the bar (6 months later), I simply ignored that mamasan who recognized me instantly, refusing to speak to him even for seating or bill paying (kinda passive-agressively you must think). I became friend with another mamasan from Cambodia and had no problems since then. So back to my massage, I asked Kiwi (the boy's nickname) why he quit, and he said he didn't like the working enviroment there and especially the mamasan, who cheated him out of his money so many times. Of course, it was the same guy. Turns out he cheated the customers and he cheated the boys too. Kiwi told me that many times that mamasan dealt with a customer (especially someone new to town) 2000 for ST and collected the money in advance but told the boy that the customer paid 1500 so the boy got back 1400 (minus his cut of 100). Kiwi said he never thought about asking the customers how much money they actually gave the mamasan. He only found out about this almost one year later, when a customer showed him a picture of the same handwritten bill I got, and funny enough, including the same bogus short-time room charge I had. Kiwi also said even though he gave the mamasan his standard 100 cut every time, that one still tried to steer customers away from him (because some other boys would give mamasan 200 or even 300 cut), like telling the customer who wants a bottom that Kiwi only tops (FYI he can do both but prefer bottom position), or even saying that you need to be careful because he's kinda bad boy etc. Kiwi, too, only found out about this through customer feedback, and his story brought back another bad memory. That night, when I pointed to one of the two boys I later offed, who was standing quietly like a church mouse in a corner, Mamasan did say that boy only goes with lady customers. But because he was totally my type, I waived him in and later found out he's gay and can bottom (another red flag I should've paid attention to but I was too excited to have my first threesome ever at that point). Back at the hotel, I asked him why Mamasan said he only goes with ladies, he said he didn't know and he never went with women customers before. Back again to my massage. Job done, I'm happy with the massage, after services and also the enlightening conversation we had, and gave him 2000 even though he only asked for 1500 tops. Also because of this, I decided to go to Boyztown that evening and visit Toy Boys again (I walked past them a couple of weeks ago and saw they just re-opened with that cheating mamasan standing at the door), just so I have a chance to blow him off again hehe. (to be continued)

those miscreants are doing that most likely because they find more interesting things to do on vacations than spend hours typing reports. Which is very hard when only one hand is available because other is holding somebody's cock.

I guess though not everyone can afford to tip so much. I met a few expat farang last night in Sunee and we discussed the massage tips and I did tell them how some of you tip 2000 b , they were horrified😁

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Google maps shows they have moved: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Madrid/@13.7237756,100.5169888,16z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x23a31623564121e8!8m2!3d13.7235557!4d100.5175289

I usually walk Patpong 1 nightly if for no other reason than to judge how its reopening is progressing. Last night I was impressed how many of the lady bars were open. What’s different is taxis now have free use in either direction, dropping off and picking up patrons. One of the old restaurants seems to be doing a halfway decent business, feeding the workers. I make it a point to check the Madrid for signs of life. Nothing new to report but it does not appear abandoned, just closed. I walked it from end to end this afternoon and was surprised by how many small shops had recently opened (eateries, barber, nails shop, massage and sundry others). Would not be surprised if night market returns by high season.

I would also be keen to learn from you about the scene in both Hanoi and HCMC, but I would suggest that the threads - separate threads by city or type of services - be in the Gay Vietnam forum so that they will be easier to find in future and be more useful to members.

In TB pre-covid Mena from Cambodia and Aof from Thailand were the official mamasans Pat/Puk was the manager (short 50s)and the owner was from Taiwan and rarely present, when present he was usually on the terrace (tall, fit with light beard early 40s) All the other floor staff were considered to be waiters, the Chinese speaking guy was often run off his feet doing the negotiations with Chinese customers. I have seen Mena requesting tips up front from middle Eastern or South Asian customers, but usually only on their first visit to ensure that they know the customs when it comes to tipping

Looks like mamasans to me are just waiters to you. And since you are a veteran and know the owner, they probably wouldn't want to approach you with boy tips, let alone try to cheat you out of money.

To add to vinapu's list, I believe Nine Spa on Sukhumvit road, soi 31 is still open (at least on the internet it appears to be) no disappointmets there. Had a couple of very athletic hunks there before and they certainly new just what the customer wanted and delivered it nicely 😍 I contact them via line to make appointment @NINESPA

K-Man in Saphan Kwai area, Jey Spa sukhumvit soi 43, VCK in Ari area ,Sabaidee spa in soi Pluk Chit 9 hopefully not affected by recent fire in area, few men only shops in Silom soi 6, I-Come in soi Suan Plu. Tawan bar offers massage during day. This is just to name a few, nothing guaranteed , everything possible is mindset you should have visiting those places . Place may be full service but tops or bottoms available at time of your visit may not rock your boat or even worse , you may not rock their boats . Be flexible and smile a lot

This trip is a combination of not having time to write my reports and not having anything interesting for you, guys to report. I have been eating out and going out with family and friends, enjoying cultural life in Buenos Aires, but nothing gayish. Plus, I started teleworking today. I have been scouting the local escort market, and it seems to be less appealing than in my previous visit. Prices are all over the place. I have been asked between $AR 3K and 10K (14 bucks and 46 bucks). If you check the local Rentmen (here you can see prices when the poster shares them) you can even find guys asking for 300 bucks. Today I hired my first escort, Eloy from Soy Tuyo. His service was satisfactory, and his fee a little over 20 bucks. He came to my place. I was going to write a review, but Rhyheim sent me his new scene with Sean Xavier and I have been working on that instead. Hopefully I will publish a report tomorrow. I am also trying to start a new blog open to all audiences, about traveling (I cannot make any money using Google Ads from ilikepinga), but there is always something showing up. Grindr is getting better. I was surprised during my first days because I was not getting hits. Apparently the issue was that I was using the free version of the app. Once I paid, I have been getting above 120 views and 20 taps/messages per day. As usual, most of the guys are not what turns me on, but I have a hard dozen waiting for a time to meet at less than 1km from my location. Doña Tota has become my favorite restaurant this year because it is in my corner, the food is da bomb, and the prices are irresistible. We went to the local Broadway, Avenida Corrientes, last Sunday. If you happen to be in Buenos Aires and you are fluent in Spanish, I recommend you Tarascones, in the Metropolitan Sura. IMG_6431.MOV IMG_6432.MOV Avda. Corrientes has changed a lot since my times here. After 7pm half of the Avenue becomes pedestrian and gets full of street artists and people going to the theater, restaurants, and bookstores. Yes, the avenue is still full of bookstores that remain open 24 hours, something I was afraid would be gone after the pandemic. IMG_6433.MOV IMG_6436.MOV IMG_6439.MOV These clips are from before getting into the theater. When we walked out, at about 10:30 PM, we could hardly walk through the crowd and did not find tables in any of the many restaurants and pizzerias on the Avenida Corrientes. We had to walk five blocks to find a table in a crowded place. The local middle class is going out and spending, perhaps more last weekend because Friday and Monday were holidays. Talking about the pandemic, the city has dropped the mandate on masks. However, a lot of people choose to still wear them as you can see in the videos, even when outdoors. A noticeable change compared to my previous visits is the lack of car services. Regular taxi cabs are not as easy to get in rush hours. If you are in Buenos Aires and planning to go out at night, start leaving earlier or you may get late to whatever your destination is. Even services like Uber, Cabify or Didi can have long waits on rush hours.

Looking forward to your tidbits about Thailand. I am very interested in your knowledge of the scene in Vietnam, I'm considering a small trip in the future to HCMC and possibly Hanoi so I'll let you finish your reporting and then ask a few questions.

due to religious reasons I do not include farangs in any mulitisomes

In a traditional massage or foot massage shop I have always worked off the premise that the tip is commensurate with the shop fee So 200b oil/foot/traditional massage should result in a 200b tip. Same for 300 etc. As for bad service, BF says pay in coins, that's what's given to beggars and can cause a face loss for them.... That's of course if you are prepared to face the consequences of said face loss!

What I don't understand: Why are the owners such desinterested in how mamasans manage their bars? If a mamasan is cheating customers and boys, it is very likely she will cheat the owner too.

At Scandic Massage near the Second Road entrance into Boyztown, you choose your boy from outside, you go inside the shop with him to the cashier at the far end where you are told '1,500 baht for massage and sex with boy' and you pay that up-front - an 'all in' payment so to speak for massage and a shag 😅 I found out later that the boy himself got half that, so I would usually give my regular lad an extra tip in the room - but that certainly wasn't expected. Royal House Massage, I was told that, aside from the massage payment, that the boy would expect 1,000 baht tip and I recall noticing that as the massage commenced there was a condom and lube put ready and my lad (no English), just completed the massage, and without a word, put on the condom, lubed-up and got to work! 🤣 I have had a lad at a massage shop behind Tukom seemingly delighted that I gave him 300 baht after a successful hand-job - he assumed at first that that was me just paying the 300 massage fee. At Soda Massage in Jomtien Complex, I give 1,000 for mutual blow-jobs and happy endings, and up to 2,000 if penetrative sex took place. In Foxy Massage, just up from Soda, a gay boy there specifically negotiated 2k for me to shag him at the end of the massage. But in most cases, I have usually negotiated with the boy as to what he would do and how much. For me negotiation time is when the back massage is complete and I have turned over and my little flag-pole is waving happily at him.

Hi All, I'll be visiting Myanmar in February. I know it isn't famous for gay sex fun. Nevertheless, I'd appreciate any tips and suggestions regarding venues, cruising or websites, for free/social or paid/commercial activities. I'll be in Yangon, Mandalay, Inle and Bagan. Thanks, Roni.

when I was visiting Patpong Museum early in Jun guide told me that owner moved business to new premises somewhere on Charoen Krung, now we know. But New location signs says "Madrid Cafe and bistro" which coupled with old location of Madrid Tavern not looking completely abandoned leave me hope that Madrid Tavern still may be resurrected. Time will tell

So you are a fan already

My story is that on my first trip to BKK in 2003 I met a wonderful guy at Tomahawk Bar, where Tawan is now located. He was also a single Dad with two young boys. We had many great years of meeting there in BKK. My final time to meet him he was working at BBB Bar as a Waiter. He saw me come in and immediately wanted to take me out and down the Soi! Turns out it was to meet both of his STR8 sons who were working in the Bar and the Restaurant there. Both just as handsome as their Dad. Wonderful memories...

It looks like they are doing it again. A boy told me they just started yesterday. There must be more than 30 boys in that

Price difference? I worked as a hotel GM for a big part of my life, I can't justify the price difference. I still get rate benefits at Hilton, yet they're too far away from the "scene". The Tarntawan has always provided a decent experience, even when they were at 50usd a night. But at 20-25usd w/b'fast, I can't see my way to spend more than that....I had a friend stay at Meridien and I visited, very nice staff and rooms but not to pay 125usd or more a night....as Tomcal would say "you know how many guys that is?"

The massage scene continues to evolve by the day. I toured Surawong from Patpong to Soi Tarntawan this afternoon and found a few additions. Olivia massage has reopened on Surawong, roughly opposite Le Meridien. It has a mixed staff but heavy on the male side. Olivia also has shop on Silom in vicinity of. Saladeang. BTS. The upscale Urban Thai Massage has also reopened further down Surawong with a predominantly female staff. The flagship outlet of the chain is located in new facilities at the corner of Soi Thaniya and Surawong. Green Massage is located next to the driveway for the Tarntawan Hotel with mixed staff. Turning onto Soi Tarntawan, Sun Massage (Tawan bar’s daytime business) is the first shop you’ll encounter. If you continue on past The Quarter hotel, The large Prime Massage* building faces you just before the dogleg turn where the road becomes Silom soi 6. Here you’ll find 4-5 (depending on time of day) mostly or exclusively male shops, several of which have been written about on the forum. *Probably the most established (and otherwise legit) massage operation in Silom, Prime has a well-earned reputation for excellence and value. It’s professional staff is well trained. You can choose a male or female for your massage and discretion is always observed.

Mena is a good friend of mine and always steered me right. He would never deliberately not recommend a boy, but would simply say "I think you can do better" when it came to the ones that had bad feedback from customers. He also introduced me to a lot of Khmer guys in the club's that I would not have met through the bar... The good old days!

He had a great Body, but a Face like a Axe Murder

It's my hotel of choice too! Staff on night duty know my routine - out at 9pm and back at midnight with friend!

Funny how you talk about traveling economy , I just saved about 50,000 baht travelling from Australia to Bangkok in economy class. Was tempted to book business but glad I didn't as I had 2 seats to myself in economy ! Food was basically the same .

I've just booked a room at Tarntawan for under 1000pn (breakfast not included.) I recall that the price never went below 2000 plus pre-Covid. In fact, hotel prices for my two up-coming trips (July and November) have been reassuring. BKK, Chiang Mai and Jomtien. Beware, however, of rapidly rising costs of flights....perhaps worth a discussion on another thread.

To give you guys some ideas how much it would cost to spend time with some of those high-profile models/actors, here are some ads from a Vietnamese pimp who specializes in celebrities. Above is a well-known Vietnamese actor/model who had a lead role in a very popular Vietnamese BL - Lost in Paradise (link to the movie's trailer at the end of this post). To chat with him (for 45 minutes) would cost you 400$. To LT him: 12K $. Below is another ad for a Malaysian actor/model (25, 1m85, 75kg, 20 cm). To ST him (no more than 2 hours): 10K$ The pimp also promoted a Thai actor (some members here may know him as he had a lead role in a classic Thai BL The Love of Siam, the boy on the left in the poster below) when he visited Vietnam about 3 years ago. I couldn't find that ad, but I remember he was even more expensive.

Day 14 Today we waked up in time to consume breakfast in hotel. I could see that K is very careful with what he eats . He knows that his body is his earning asset and not only takes very good care about himself but also mentioned few of his bar friends who are slacking in body maintenance and it unfortunately shows. Breakfast in Furama Sathorn is not opulent but adequate with choice of farang and Asian dishes and I consider it to be good value. I went for a stroll to Lumpini and around noon returned to the room as I was expecting repeat visit from Besty, guy who found me on Grindr and offered massage. We met him already in day 6 . Like before he arrived on the dot. Today’ massage was as good as week ago and afters even better , I suspect that he kind of likes me, definitely was not in rush to go. Unfortunately when I investigated long time option he politely declined ‘ short time is better”. Few days ago Christian PFC alerted me about some ghost festival in Makasan’s railway yards so I , railway man by heart for entire life , couldn’t let it pass by even if my interest in ghosts is non existing. I went there by BTS and then airport link to Ratchaprop station and then walked. What surprised me was that it was well attended by ghost lovers and railway buffs, free admission , temperature and proof of vaccination check at the gate. With great interest I surveyed old steam engines and railway carriages, some well restored , others just abandoned to their fate. One of those I used as a place to eat lunch I purchased on the site and as often on those kind of festivals, public seem to be mostly interested in eating something judging but brisk trade food stalls made. Then made quite a walk along ARL line through part of Bangkok rarely visited even if it’s just steps from airport line . There it looked as third world’ backwater city even with all those skyscrapers in the background. Dilapidated houses, muddy alleys, dark shops selling only basics but also certain charm of being authentic. Around Makasan station civilization appeared again and all that stroll with injection of oxygen into brain from walking in the open gave me an idea that since I’m close to Sukhumvit area, why not to visit Jey Spa in soi 43. It was fast hop on MRT plus BTS, 10 minutes stroll and I was in front of familiar townhouse where spa is located. As I mentioned in my December report there’s no sign but shoes in front of entrance are betraying the place. I was hoping that Ken2 ( numbered because they have another Ken there as well as he explained), guy I had in December will be there. Mamasan inside explained that if I did not make reservation they have only 3 guys on duty but one of them turned to be familiar face. So Ken 2 it is. He did not recall me, even if I told him we met 5 months ago and that I remember he has scar from appendix removal surgery. Massage fee 800, his minimum tip for 1.5 session 1800, one can see that spa is located in somewhat upscale area of the city , full of gated villas and condos. But massage and after service were excellent, guy very well but not overwhelmingly built and good conversationalist as a bonus so I gave him 2000 and left very happy. Today I had plan to go to Moonlight, if only because one of their floor guys, A, very muscular guy whom I offed in the past few times somehow learned I’m in Bangkok and sent me Line message he is missing me . No doubt, no doubt. So I went. First to see me was Bee, my first off in December, right after I was released from hotel prison waiting for test results. Soon on the stage I noticed not one but two guys smiling at me , A was one but also Myanmarese , very funny and talkative guy I offed from Hot Male in December for private show with T. Since guys are rotating by two , soon A left the stage and approached me so I invited him for a drink. He did not waste much time and asked me right away if he can go with me today, option which was on the table in my mind but he suggested tip which was more than I could pay tonight being bit depleted of cash . This did not derail him and he said I can pay him in dollars but I got brighter idea and told him I will return tomorrow to pick him up. For tonight I decided who will be listening to my snoring for more agreeable compensation. So when A returned to the stage I lined infallible V if he is available, of course he was asking for few minutes as he just came back from work ( he has full time shift job in some supermarket or mall ). I finished my drink , smiled at A and Bee who happen to be on the stage and left to meet V in front of 7/11 in soi 3. What surprised me was that he was coming from direction of my hotel like he knew. I suspected some intelligence work but explanation was simpler- it turned out he lives in the parallel soi. As always great time including polite question if he can rape me but answer was negative. Whenever I off him I always have feeling that he is grateful for an extra income and tries to be good boy as to secure next time. So day 14 finished in familiar and assuring embraces

thank you, there's no day in trip like first day when we have a chance to walk through familiar sois , hear sounds we were missing and smell fragrants we never forgot

https://onemileatatime.com/news/air-canada-bangkok-flight/ Air Canada will be launching a new seasonal flight between Vancouver (YVR) and Bangkok (BKK) later this year. The route will operate 4x weekly between December 1, 2022, and April 14, 2023, with the following schedule: AC65 Vancouver to Bangkok departing 11:00PM arriving 5:55AM (+2 days) AC66 Bangkok to Vancouver departing 8:30AM arriving 6:35AM Air Canada’s Bangkok service will operate westbound on Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays, and Sundays, and eastbound on Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Fridays, and Sundays.

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condom size suitable for guy in question

Certainly not the time to go to Myanmar now. While the world is outraged by the appalling attack by Russia on Ukraine and the news is full of the war crimes committed there every day, the massacre of civilians in Myanmar by the "army" is largely ignored. After all that Aung San su Kyi has been through is her life, defending her people and their freedom, her imprisonment on fake charges is a disgrace that the world doesn't seem to care about.

The only interaction I have with mamasans is a polite small talk if they approach me but no more than that. if I want a boy I am just waving him to come and sit with me and if I like him I off the boy. I never used a mamasan as mediator between me and the boys because I know they tend to raise the prices,asked for tips, recommend the boys whom give them bigger share of the fee and smirch the boys they don't like so I really don't need their 'services'.

I have been a regular customer at Toyboys for many years. It was my favourite bar. I know the owner well and also the cashier. However, I have never seen a Mamasan in Toyboys. Do you mean the owner? Guy named Pat or Put, or some similar sounding name? Often hovering around and changing the music. Or do you mean the cashier (Mr Aoff) who got promoted? As far as I know he is still in Esaan. I have never seen anyone else who I would call a mamasan. I wouldn’t be surprised to hear about some fiddles but I have never had any problems in there and they both always gave regulars a free drink for each one bought...provided you tipped and bought to odd waiter a drink!

My advice to Olddaddy and anyone else facing disappointing service is "mai pen rai"; take it in your stride. You are on holiday and I suspect (and hope ) that the loss of a 100bht note won't result in your going hungry. And I'd say the same if it's 1000bht wasted on an unhappy app encounter or bar off. In such circumstances, pay and get rid of the miscreant quickly. Shrug your shoulders and say "Next time, it'll be better..." Perhaps there may even be lessons leaned from your choice of visitor or masseur. If you wish to make a moral stand, choose an issue of more importance.

Day 13 As I mentioned, HC was not in rush so we missed breakfast in the hotel, he decided to go to his room and I went for breakfast to world famous. Straight from there went to Chatuchak Market by MRT. I did not have anything to buy, just wanted to visit it after few years. It was not as crowded like before and I had impression , much more orderly then previously. Spent few hours wandering through stalls and when I had enough sights and smells I returned by combination new MRT line and BTS from Bang Wa station, on my way catching sight of new Big Buddha on Thonburi side of river. Timing was perfect as as soon as I entered my room rain started and I mean RAIN. As usual with Bangkok rains it was heavy but after about hour and half it stopped as suddenly as it started. I had plan for this afternoon as yesterday when passing soi 3 I noticed massage shop called Bua Champu, almost beside Baan Silom hotel and not only recalled that it was recommended to me by Christian PFC but also boy sitting in front of it looked somewhat familiar and I realized I saw his profile on Grindr. So I had some expectancies but somehow I was late to start being active and he misread my intentions so all I got it was very good massage and only a little bit of feel. I guess I had my shy moment there , LOL. Well massaged and hungry I went to soi 4 for my schnitzel at G’Bangkok then to Hot Male to have daily (well almost ) chat with guys there and soon after went to Tawan. K, hero of my first night soon after went to his hometown to see his son, perhaps oiled by my tips but did not forget me and every day or two was sending me messages on Line “how are you ? “ , I miss you “ and similar liturgical stuff although considering that we hit it somewhat and I was generous with him I believe it was sincere. I miss him too anyways and when he Lined me that he is back I knew that he is second in line to be offed right after HC. It was more than week since my last time there so I was greeted somewhat warmly with handshakes and hugs by quite a few of their stuff . Apart from guys I already knew I noticed new, for me , guy, very muscular and at the same time handsome, lets call him TT. So after ordering beer for myself , K and Dum when I noticed he is smiling at me I fell immediately in love and called him over for a drink as well. M and Ten , both I had massages with also were circulating nearby but I disciplined myself and they were forced to be content with 100 baht tips but no drink. I complemented TT handsomeness and was rewarded with kiss , not to mention option of wrapping my arm around his massive shoulder as he was sitting beside me . Then show started , again one of performers called me KFC man, few tips were distributed and time came to take K home because bar was about to close and he wanted to eat something. Bill came to 2100 for off fee and 4 drinks but fun of that evening was priceless with view for even more obviously. I stole one more kiss from TT in exchange for 100 baht, LOL. For dinner he suggested well known restaurant across the mouth of former soi Twilight which I approved as I like food here and two waitresses , one of them remembered what I used to order 3 years ago as I mentioned before. I was in for more surprises there. First both of them asked if I’d consider buying them glass of red wine, sure. It was good idea not only to improve mood but soon after it was revealed that one with good memory is no less than first cousin of my K. No wonder he suggested that restaurant. Then she said we are alike because I like boys and she likes boys so next time I should bring one more for her. Wine started to work, no doubt. Then over dinner they started to speak very highly about K. It turned out that mother of his son didn’t want a child and run away leaving baby with him . So he soldiers on as single father working hard and sending money to his parents who as rising his son in rural Surin while he works in BKK. He did not make much of it saying simply that it’s his son after all so it’s his duty to support him , show me his picture and baby is like father look alike minus muscles of course but similarity was obvious. So tonight after fun time in Tawan I got even more of it in Beer Garden or whatever name of place is and I must say I started to look at K with even more respect. He seemed to be happy that somebody else told his story and in the room when we finally arrived he seemed much more clingy and talkative than before. So my day 13 ended in the morning with uplifting mood for both of us and when he asked if I off him again I told him “more than once” which earned me shy, manly kiss

Lucky you! I have to wait three weeks for my return. After thirty months away. I hope your trip all goes well. And so for me the usual....butterflies in the stomach, obsessive pre-planning of journey and arrival, disturbed sleep patterns. All worth it.

Day 12 Soon after they left I realized that today is supposed to be a DAY for me as I hoped I will be able , after multi year waiting, to off Handsome Cambodian ( HC )from Jupiter, dream of mine for a good while. So by my own choice I switched today to “ wait for the evening “ mode. Going for breakfast I notice Suwit waiting already in front of the shop , still closed that early , so grabbed him and we went for breakfast at BayView, it was actually nice , breezy morning. As he knew , today I’m returning to Bangkok, we kissed good bye , literally in middle of the soi as neither of us is that shy. Then I went to the room to pack and at noon on the dot I left for Jomtien bus station to catch my 1 pm bus for which I bought ticket yesterday. I took motorsai for 50 baht. Bus was full. Heavy traffic and it took 2 hours to get to Swampy so in the hotel I was close to 4 p.m. You know what was on my mind all that time. My hotel now for next 3 nights will be Furama Exclusive Sathorn, in sub soi close to both soi 3 where Baan Silom is and to Chong Nonsi station. After Raya, it's becoming my most favorite hotel in Silom area , big rooms with balconies and breakfast included, no problems with visitors, there are always some taxis, motorsais and tuktuks waiting outside and there’s cheap local restaurant across the soi. Breakfast is buffet type, not very sophisticated but varied and adequate enough with few Asian dishes so our guys may have choice they prefer. As weekend was looming I went to XOne to exchange money, stocked there with 100 baht notes – I like them because they gladly provide few thousands in low denominations on request. I picked up glasses I ordered right after arrival, had banana pancake in soi where New Twilight is, then went to the room to spruce up and went to realize hopefully my dream and mission. But first stop to get courage was at Hot Male downstairs, reader and anddy were there, tiny Lao was happy to see me again, always nice , enjoyable and not expensive time there. After 9 , with pulse probably beating at 80 / my normal is 50-54 / I marched to Jupter. Not many people inside which was surprising considering it’s Friday but it was still early, artic cold and music volume at idiotic level but for now those were none of my problems. Drink ordered and I start looking around where my HC is. Nowhere, soon boys parade started, nope. But I noticed that S, whom I offed from NewTwilight on my 3rd night moved to Jupiter now, during parade I slipped him 100 baht in exchange for smile. Offable material but not for price he wanted then and definitely not tonight for obvious reason. Very rarely I ask for mamasan’s help but there was no choice. Due to level of noise conversation , mouth to ear was like that : “ is HC working today? “ , ‘ do you want boy?”, screaming ‘ is HC working today? “ , ‘’ which boy you want ?”, then he decided to ask another one to help me . Answer was freezing ‘ not working today” but before I got heart attack or something soothing “ I can call him” came. 100 baht changed hands, in few minutes he came that HC will be here in 20 minutes so my pulse went down to normal I guess and I even feel that noise and cold is somewhat more bearable. Finally he got there roughly at start of show , recognized me in the instant , after all we talked last weekend and quite possibly mamasan described that “KFC looking idiot is asking for you “ or something. I asked if he wants to stay for the show, yes, so we stay, in meantime I secured long time ( finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ) , asked for expected compensation ( top of the line but not more that I was willing to fork out, I lost my head over him but some brain was preserved in the neck I guess and I had my limit ) so all looked good but he was sitting bit stiff as to avoid any casual body contact , arms crossed at times. Did not object my hand on his knee but he did not bother with any touches , not that I expected much but I still be happy with even pat on the back. After show it got better because we left, no problem walking, not hungry , we just bought some drinks at 7/11, he is talkative and English is good so my spirit went up. In the room no problem whatsoever , shower together OK, body still lean and muscular, all the same when I got struck seeing him first time exercising with Art in front of BBB. So he took good care of himself during covid. Protested when I told him he is so handsome, “I’m not handsome “ but when I told him ‘ for me you are “ , which in fact it is what I think, he was happy. So thing were going very well but they stopped when we moved to long time part. “ Don’t do this’, ‘ I don’t like this “, “ I’m tired and want to sleep “ etc. So I felt like cold water bucket was emptied over me as my romantic night dreamed about for 3 or 4 years turned to turf war over pillow and duvet. I was devastated but not entirely surprised and thus not upset, only disappointed that dream of my own creation shattered , I just gave up on being close . To his credit in the morning he was not in rush at all, to a point that we missed breakfast in hotel and converted himself to be more accessible. So day 12 which I hoped will be day of days this trip finished with me hanging my head low. And is not HC fault, it’s mine as I hoped for much more based on my dreams. Now, few weeks since , I clearly see I was overreacting , actually one of our members who knows HC brought me to my senses soon after saying rightly ‘finally you got him long time ! “ But that morning, day after, I felt dramatically disappointed. I presented this story to readers to act as warning – we should not build any hopes beyond what we can reasonably expect in standard, after all commercial, relationships. Result of this drama of my own creation is that yes , I will be still looking for HC whenever I’ll be in BKK, I will off him LT if he will be willing and I’d even consider him as trip companion. What I will not do is ask mamasan to call him and in fact any boy over, no, I must see him eye to eye like all other guys in bars. If there’s smile, it’s a deal, smile absent , next please. Day 12 is over.

I'm early riser for two reasons, first longer your day on vacation , longer your vacations are. Second, I usually have guy beside me and like some romantic exercises before going for a breakfast. I don't sleep during day unless jet lag forces me to , but even that will be 1-3 hours nap max. depending on companion or lack of him ( rarely ) I go to bed between 12 and 2 . While in civil life I'm party man in Thailand I prefer one on one encounters so partying till , say 3 or 5 is out of question. That's to answer question you had. Now advice you even did not ask for : Avoid any routine on vacation as after while it will be boring, catch the day and do what you feel like doing at the moment, vacations are not to be spent checking watch all the time. If you wake up at 4 am and feel like not sleeping , wake up and have early morning stroll, you will be surprised how different familiar streets are. If you feel like sleeping till noon, don't feel guilty you did even if you lost good chunk of vacation day. They did not give World Heritage designation to Foodland Patpong for nothing , you can have breakfast there at 2 pm as well as 2 am. Nearly 60 and old fart ? What KFC man should say ? Dead already 😄?

Day 8 After collecting their fee we went to world famous for breakfast and soon their friend happened to pass by seeing them through the window so I asked him to join us too. Returned to hotel to pack mindful that I need to release room at 12 but at 10 I will have guest – that guy who crossed red light to my condemning look yesterday at Lumpini. He was on the dot. Tall and handsome but most of that charm disappeared when he removed the mask. In short , in mask he looked much , much better. Very unremarkable short time, in fact I don’t recall anything at all so here I’m , 1500 spent and nothing to show for it other than fun story of guy correctly connecting the dots. Soon after our 1 ½ hr. was over I left rolling my suitcase to Chong Nonsi. In airport I had enough time to treat myself with mango with sticky rice for 50 baht and soon I was on the Jomtien bus. In 4 hrs. door to door I was reporting at Copa. After excitements of yesterday and last night I had urge for a nap and only after dart at 7 pm I left my room heading to Salt and Pepper behind the Tukcom for my chicken with cashew nuts. Returned to Boyztown via almost deserted Sunee Plaza, leaving for another time invitation to step in Nice Boys. In front of BBB I noticed good looking , muscly and tall guy who immediately sensed my interest and started business negotiations right away. By time his and mine drinks arrived we already agreed on long time and a fee and that we will go to my room only after the show. While well built Lao boy, face was bit ordinary but I liked his energy and thought night appears to be promising not even having idea what will be next. Since I wanted to see show he suggested we take our drinks and go inside where on the stage about two dozen guys , fully dressed, were presenting themselves. I noticed pair, one bit cherubic , other more hooliganish . Not only they were attractive looking but from their interaction I sensed they must be very close friends. I liked it, can’t even say why but clearly I was drawn to them so told my Lao boy and mamasan standing beside to call both over for a drink. P and R , both Cambodians, just started recently . P, cherubic one from the distance , up close looked actually very, very handsome. But as I said it was not their looks but way they interact with each other which brought them to my attention and a table. I don’t recall who, me , Lao or mamasan came with idea of me taking them three but it was taken very well by guys specially Lao and R , one more rough of two. So after show I was presented with hefty bill, 3 off fees, 2 inside and 2 outside drinks , it was if I recall 2600 and off we went. As is my habit I asked if they want to eat, yes and Lao lead us to Metal Tables restaurant on 2nd rd on the way informing / not asking mind you , informing / that his sister will be joining us and soon she arrived, turned out she is bar girl too. Lao was very bossy type and not one who picks cheapest dishes , after were were done whatever was left he ordered to pack and handed over to his sister to my great relief as for a while I was afraid he will invite her to my room too ( P and R would like it for sure). But his body was great so I bear with those antics even if food bill was on quite high side which I did not mind as much as fact that he ordered way too much food clearly with idea to feed his sister at my expense. In the room there was no doubt who is the boss, Lao again telling boys what to do and kind of neglecting me but I have fun joining wherever I could, LOL. Eventually we split in two , Lao and Rh being more energetic and shameless , P and me more shy and romantic, he, he . Fact that I have executive room with bed and sofa helped a bit too. After fire was extinguished, Cambodian boys and as it turned out, close friends indeed so my instinct was right, collected their 1500 each and left leaving me at Lao mercy he thought , but this time I showed who is in charge and he relented, LOL. Very promising guy despite antics as body close to ideal but he spoiled whole experience just before dawn asking if he can go inventing some roommate moving out story. This is not what I understand by long time but eventually impatient with his wailing gave him his fee and let him go firmly noting “ no repeat “, great body or not - as such antics is thing I hate the most. So day 8 ended on a bit upset note for me.

I do, I'm not flying that far to grumble or even worse , to look at every baht under the light before is spent. Every new off is both risk and opportunity but it's better to risk disappointment than be sorry we missed the boat. Flying in I had a moment when I thought those long flights are no longer for me so day may come, hopefully in 20, 30 years, when I'll say no more ( we met so you know I'm not quite spring chicken ), fortunately not yet. Yes I spent a lot on guys but as I noted before, out of 14 counts I paid over market , I was extremely happy with 10, and quite very happy with other 4. Some readers may be shocked with such a waste but 28000 (14*2000) is bit above 800 USD, how many long times with hunks I get for that in New York or London ? 1 1/2 ? Surprisingly perhaps, I see wasting or rather overspending money with room for substantial savings somewhere else as I have habit of inviting my guys for meals on both ends of off and orders some of them are placing would warrant restraining order. But somehow I like those meals, if only I can look at their faces and bodies in full light, LOL Sure it experiences that count, screw the money ! It's almost 7 years since I asked certain Tiger from Tawan to hug me strong in my Raya room 7 , I swear I still feel sometimes that massive closeness. ( no he did not break me anything you jokesters there ) and I'm sure in 7 years I'll still recall pleasure of soaping K in Tarntawan's bathtub. My mother used to instruct us '' if you don't have money to go to restaurant or for vacation, don't go until you have enough because you will feel bad looking at menu or admission price you can't afford." Not a bad advise, no? Beauty of Thailand is that it's still easily affordable country , transport and food are inexpensive and eye candy is for free everywhere and if one can discipline himself to numbers of bars is visiting , drinks gulped and guys offed , vacations there can be still both pleasant and cheap. And with bit of luck our neighbor in hotel may turn to be affordable hook up for the night as my previous night experience attests.

Doesnt hurt to ask 😉