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On Saturday night I was there for the show. Full house, about 15 boys including 3 very substantially built, quite a few very well built and YES that twink who was by the way offed quite early in the evening. Some men could use some slimming, some may be not in their prime age but muscles can, t be built too fast so it comes, with territory. About 20 spectators so when I told you house full you have an impression how small bar is. But whether you like their guys or not, it,s by the mile friendliest bar with a lot of interaction between guys, guys and customers and unheard anywhere else lipsync performers and a public. All in good natured humor and that included calling me again KFC man for 27th time this trip. I was awarded prominent seat in front of the stage, if only because I had 3 guys sitting with me, one of them new, at least for me, and very handsome faced no to mention built suitably for that bar. Show had usual lip synching singing, mild SM, muscle flexing, big cock show with participants intermingling with audience for feel and tip, wax candle and as, grand finale J/o with 2 successful participants. Of course I did not went home empty handed. What do you think, I'm a monk or something ? So for Tawan lovers great news , bar maybe smaller but familiar fun not diminished. Music and AC level proper, conversation can be had without screaming and no danger of freezing.

Winner Boys set to Re-Open 1st June (Thai English of course haha) Great news, for those of you in Thailand anyway, Winner Boys in Sunee Plaza will re-open inside this coming week on 1st June from 7pm till midnight. What’s more we are promised twinks in small pants dancing on stage again (no jeans). Technically Winner Boys has never completely closed, although that was certainly threatened in the depths of Covid regulations. But it has been well over a year since it was open inside with boys dancing on stage in their underwear. (Boss Paul standing in blue shirt. A nice guy, please say Hi to him if you visit) Latterly it has only been open outside at small tables set out into the plaza. Many boys had gone home and only a handful were there on a daily basis, some actually sleeping inside the bar at nights as they had no money for a room. Great lads though and some fun nights outside there in recent holidays (I was last there in April), but its not the same as near naked boys in underwear (sometimes micro underwear). Hopefully some of you in Pattaya can make your way to this bar in the next few days and encourage more of the boys to return; just wish I was there to enjoy it with you! If you do visit please report back …. 😊 Until then a clip to remind you of why Winner Boys is such a great place to visit. video-1653821638.mp4 I include the FaceBook link for those interested: https://www.facebook.com/winnerboybarpattaya/?ref=page_internal

@vinapuhow much do you usually pay for LT? I am curious how much you guys usually pay for LT/overnights.. Anyways here is my field report: I went to see a show in Twilight last 20 May. There were only 4-5 shows and the whole thing lasted for only 25 minutes I think. Mamasan said that they might be another show every 12:30am in the future. Shows are rather boring compared to Hotmale, Dreamboys and Freshboys. Some seemed recycled from Dreamboys too (It's raining men and Sexbomb) although they say that the shows are different each day. First Mamasan quoted me 500 bar fine and 2,500 for the tip. Second mamasan quoted me 500 bar fine and 2,000 tip for floor boys and 1000 and 5000 bar fine and tip, respectively for models. There are both straight and gay models. I've only seen couple of guys who were my type but I didnt off anyone. Overall, the bar seems promising. All the mamasans are very accommodating. One thing that annoyed me though is that the mamasans flock and beg customers for some tip when they bill out. I went back last saturday and offed a cute straight lao guy. He seemed very game and playful as he always dances but turns out he is the complete oppossite. He is byfar the worst off that I have had in Bangkok. Maybe its because of the language barrier but he wasnt very communicative even when I try to use google translate to talk to him. He didnt even get hard. The whole off lasted for only more or less 30 minutes .. so yeah i will probably wont be coming back for a while but its worth going in for a try.

so here's a true story relating "up to you" rate with twilight bar.. During my first visit in new twilight, I've seen this guy seated with a female customer. Not sure if he works there or was just brought there by the customer. Just last week, I saw him in hornet, messaged him and he gave me his line. In line, he said that he is a real man and he is okay to chill in my apartment. I asked him how much is his taxi fee would be (trying to imply, how much is his rate, i didn't wanna directly ask how much his services are), he said 200, so I was like it's too good to be true.. Then convo went on and everything seemed too good to be true so I directly asked him how much he is expecting in return.. he just said "up to you" haha so that left an impression that he is probably not after the money lol.. So I said "2000 for overnight" then he replied "2000/hour" haha .. I told him its a little expensive then he didnt reply anymore.. So my question is, has anyone ever paid 2000/hour? Not sure if I have been ripping off MBs all these time lol

OK. This is not great acting. But, it is fun. I read the books (OK OK I LOVE graphic novels). And, I really enjoyed this new series and the characters. Plus, I saw so much of my own struggles of coming out inside of this. I wish I had had gay friends when I was young.

1500-2500 ST 2000-3000 LT .

2k ST is normal for bkk bar boys. Overnight 3k. Some high demand ones might ask higher. Seems like the guy u asked this about knows his worth, and since i did saw his pic before it was removed, i can attest that he used to work in bar before and very popular too. I never took him though so cant share anything more. Either way, i do think u should try him, and decide for yourself if its money well spent. Im pretty sure without cover charge, off fee, boys drinks, mamasan tips, etc, 2k ST is change money hehe

@chum_soccer if the photo you posted above is of a man you communicated with on Grindr, I believe it’s inappropriate to post here without expressed permission of the individual (if even then). Regarding whether anyone had ever paid bht 2000 for short time, be assured that they have. It’s the going rate for offing a guy from a bar in Bkk.

Where are these prices coming from? I remember Jupiter used to have crazy prices 15 years ago, and i haven't been since. but it seems that they are all getting a bit nutty. Models...are they the coyotes from days past? The term "model" says it all. Someone to look at. I'd prefer a good prostitute. What happened to "Up to you" ???

I have been living in Bangkok for almost 6 months now and the Silom gogo bars and massage parlors around BKK have started to bore me. So I started exploring an untapped territory amongsts us farangs in Thailand. Although foreigners are not unheard of in these Karaoke/Host Bars but its extremely rare I heard. To be honest, I haven't searched the forum if there's an already existing topic about this but I hope you guys wouldn't mind. I'll jumpstart this topic with some of the few places that I have already been and I will list down a few other places that I know and hopefully some of our members can explore and share their experiences as well. So here it goes: Chill HostBar This is located in Nonthaburi which is around 20 minutes from the Grand Palace in Bangkok. I would recommend this to first timers since the owner can speak english well and they have models whose first language is english. Some models are magazine-models-quality and most are straight. Sitting with the boy is 750/hour. VIP room starts at 300/hour. No sex in the VIP room but kiss and blowjob is alright. I was able to off someone for 500 THB and there is a motel across for the same price. The model I offed grew up in Australia so he is a Thai with an australian accent. Fucks and kisses hard. I tipped him 1,700 after. One word of advice though is that the owner can be a little shady. He ordered food which I ended paying in the end. I've also been told that the VIP is getting prepared (even though I was the only customer that time), preparation took 1 hour and turns out I was already paying 750 for sitting with the model. What's worse is that the whole time I was just talking to the owner because I was too shy to make a move on the model (we were sitting in the common room). If you'd like to save some moolah while exploring this bar, just buy enough drinks to get to know the model, don't order food, and just sit with the model in the common room and off him after. Buzz Karaoke/Host This is a fairly new host bar in Bangkok. There are around 30-40 boys to select from which are mostly twinks and straight. Beer prices starts at 1,000++ (3 beers), sitting with the boy in the common room is 250. VIP room is 300/hour and sitting with the boy in the VIP room is 750 for the first hour and 250 for the succeeding hours. No sex in the VIP room is allowed but kiss and blowjob are okay. Staff speaks limited english so you will need to use google translate if you don't know basic Thai. The boy I sitted with is straight and fairly new to the business. I was only able to kiss him and fondle his cock in the VIP room. He was too shy to get a blowjob in the bar. I got his Line and we were supposed to meet up so that I can give him a proper one but didn't reply on the day itself anymore :(. So this was 4,400 THB charged to experience. Sit2Sis Restaurant/Ent Club This is a hostbar in Din Daeng Bangkok. If you take a grab/bolt to the place, you will see a Sis2Sis restaurant but that is not the bar itself. You would have to go inside the parking of the same building and take the stairs one floor down. You will need to take an ATK (100/THB) to get inside. So a beer costs 260 THB, ice is 130 THB and sitting with a boy is at least one beer/hour (which is 260 THB). However, they employ a bidding concept wherein guests can fight/bid over the boy/models that they want, meaning if you bid to sit the model for one beer and someone else bid two beers (520 THB), you would have to bid three beers (730 THB) to get him and so on.. Bidding happens every after hour so all the boys would return to the stage to get bid for every after hour. Customers are mostly Thais although, there was also a group of Chinese. What suprises me is that almost all of the 40-50 models get seated for atleast two beers. Some groups would sit 3-5 guys so be prepared to shell out some moolah to compete. I sitted a boy who can speak english and ended up sitting him for two beers for 4 rounds. My bill racked up to 4,500 with no sex, blowjob or kiss nonetheless, it was a fun night. There are a few other places in Bangkok with more or less the same concept (pay to sit the boy with no expectation of sex). This could be thrilling for others (like me, lol) who like a challenge in laying a straight guy. The only downside is the cost but if you're someone who doesn't have to worry about money, here are a few other places I found which you could try and share your experiences with: Fake Club Bangkok TurboClub Bangkok 76 Garage (can't sit with the guy but models are AAA quality) Mirinn Club RCA ERR Infinity YES.BKK Hiso Ciety (I think this is the cream of the crop of all Male hostbar in BKK)

Was at Teatrón club last night with friends. As noted by other members, the rooftop bar Lotus club is once again men-only on Saturdays and the fully nude and erect strippers have returned to the stage.

I hired online escorts the first time I was in Brazil without even thinking about potential risk like the news above, nothing bad happened though. But definitely need to more vigilant in the futures about this.

So sorry you ran into this creep...what a truly horrible event. Are you on an extended stay agreement? If not I would change places quickly.

I also really enjoyed this series and was very pleased by the recent announcement that it’s been renewed for two more seasons… well worth watching

Short time last typically 2 to 3 hours so 2k per hour is around 5k ST the going rate for models from Moonlight

I’m no advocate of celibacy @young11 but as this is a nasty condition, I feel you’re wise to minimise contact. Perhaps this is the time to hire a well-regarded independent? I’d suggest you both take a shower before any interaction: that way, both of you will be reassured by the absence of a rash.

I'm just wondering what signals you used to determine he was game? Was he initiating contact, touching your leg, kissing you? Or was it just his answers? Typically, it's easy to fake via words, but it's much harder with physical contact. All my good experiences have been when there has been contact and physical interest. I use the buying the drink time to see how touchy feely a guy can be and I've sent many guys back to the "pool" so to speak because they failed to pass that test. One of my most memorable offs was from Screwboys. The guy was all over me the moment he sat down and had no hesitation to make out with me in front of all his colleagues. It translated well to the bedroom where the activities were nothing short of adventurous and thrilling. In short, looks and words can be deceiving.

Funny is that I went to fake club too. Paid 100 something baht for anti gen before entry. I felt out of place as soon as I went in. I didn't know that it is a full blown night club haha I was expecting it to be like a gogo or host bar. I left as soon as i got in lol I dont think fake club is a place you can go alone lol

Great news, one of my favorite bars finally allowed to go back to the gogo setting. I can't wait to go back

We can blame the first Thaksin government and his homophobic Interior Minister Purachai for early closing times. Before their Social Order campaigns in the early 2000s, bars and clubs stayed open virtually as long as there were customers. Purachai imposed mostly 1:00 am closing times. Even the hugely respected GM of the Mandarin Oriental Hotel, Kurt Wachtveitl, told the New York Times this would be a major setback for Thai tourism.

baFor anyone interested in Fake Club, I went there quite often with my friends. If you and your friends often hang out together, in 4 or 5, it would defenitely deserve a try. You can order a combo for about 3000 baht, including a Black Label/other liquor and half a dozen mixers. And the boys will cost you 2 drinks per an hour or half an hour (250/300 per drink, I don't remember clearly). BUT what might disappoint you, as chun_soccer mentioned, you might need to negotiate with the boys about the further steps. And according to my experience, it would be quite hard to talk smoothly with them, as most of them don't speak english that well.

As a Colombian, I can confidently tell you most of the guys in the videos are from my country so maybe the studio is here but idk. I also wanted to clarify something snwbrdr015 said, the word "chimba" is used everywhere, not just in Medellin.

Yes Vessey - you have got it in one - our favourite bar - 🤪 he’s obviously wearing that very fetching garment for economy sake.

Unless the restrictions are lifted off completely the TAT prediction will remain sceince fiction. I don't seem the Chinese coming back soon due the harsh restrictions the Chinese government is forcing on traveling . for the Russians due the war with Ukraine it's almost impossible to travel due the West sanctions and the Indian economy was hit badly due the Covid so I don't see the number of tourists comming to Thailand returning to what it was before the Covid. The number of tourists comming from the West already reduced significantly long time ago when the Thai government imposed harsh Visa restrictions so neither the Westerns will save the situation any time soon.

Thanks for all the information you guys shared. I'm going to Bangkok in 2 weeks, I will still give Tawan a try.

I always thought california kings or oversized beds in some hotel suites were irrelevant for most people but now i see the practical use of this lol

Don,t be jealous, after all I,m footing the bill for all those experiments

This morning I was hugging tightly my guy, silky smooth and all and was thinking to myself what a wonderful world in which long times possible and affordable

During Tsarist times in Russia, being known as gay was tantamount to career-ending, no matter who you were. Arguably Russia's most famous composer and later to become known as one of its most tormented gay men was the composer Piotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky. Ironically his brother Modest was also gay - but then he was not nearly as famous. Tchaikovsky was lauded throughout the country partly for his music to three of what have become the most popular ballets in the repertoire - Swan Lake, Sleeping Beauty and The Nutcracker, but equally for his seven symphonies, violin concerto, two piano concertos and the opera Eugene Onegin. Even today Tchaikovsky being gay is very much played down in Russia to fit in with Putin's homophobia and the country's harsh laws. In an attempt to throw any suspicion off him, in 1877 aged 37 Tchaikovsky decided to get married. Antonina Miliukova was an aspiring young musician. From the moment she first saw Tchaikovsky, she was enthralled. She determined to marry him despite the fact they were particularly ill-suited to each other. Tchaikovsky stated she was a woman "with whom I am not the least in love." Modest went further, describing her as a "crazed half-wit." In the end she got her way, even though it seems certain she was not aware at that time that he was gay. In many respects this was similar to events a few decades later when an aspiring young ballet student set her sights on marrying arguably the greatest male dancer the world has ever seen, Vaslav Nijinsky. Nijinsy had been the plaything of a homosexual clique in St. Petersburg before being taken under the wing of the very gay impresario, Serge Diaghiev. Probably more bisexual than totally gay, after his marriage Nijinsky's career fell apart and he was to spend decades in and out of psychiatric institutions. Tchaikovsky suffered no similar fate. His marriage was more than a disaster, however. He soon found his wife "absolutely repulsive" and spoke of "unbearable moral torments." It lasted for just 8 weeks before the couple separated. Since divorce was complicated in Russia, they had to remain man and wife until his death. But the rift was total and he saw no more of her. The Hollywood Reporter writing about the new movie shown recently at the Cannes Film Festival "Tchaikovsky's Wife" describes the marriage as "more like a train suddenly hitting a 747, then flying off the rails of a bridge, where it crash lands into a boat causing an explosion that blows up the bridge, too." Both parties were to suffer, Tchaikovsky of a nervous breakdown although he was thereafter able to continue his career. Antonina was devastated and ended up like Nijinsky in losing her mind. The marriage was a tragedy for both parties.

Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder...

Not attracted to Thais? Not one of the 70 million people? Amazing!

Maybe better to stick to the saunas....After kind of a boring saturday at 117 and having skipped last night (sunday) because it was quiet, I thought I would try my hand at the online escorts. Bad experience, probably mostly my fault. After looking through the various websites, I contacted about 10, of which 3-4 responded, none seemed particularly friendly or keen on the slow suave sex that I like. So many on grindr, one I contacted accidentally (accidentally in the sense that I Grind for free guys, and some profiles it is clear that they are GP, but this one it was not suggested). He looked a little older, which I am fine with, and otherwise super my type and was keen to do what I wanted. I know it's safer to hire off the websites because there there is at least the guys contact info and some trace of him, whereas someone can just disappear from Grindr. So yes I invited him to my AIrbnb price was 250 reais, we were supposed to meet in front of the building. He says no I'll just come up, what is the room number. I told him the room number (huge mistake) but I said meet me downstairs, do not contact the doorman, just tell me a few minutes before you arrive and I will wait for you outside. Well, knock at door and I look through the peephole and it is him (or, rather not the him of the pictures, which must have been 10 years old, but an out of shape version of him, he looks really bad). I really did not know what to do, I don;t have any experience with this. He surely didnt want to meet outside because he looked nothing like the pictures. I didnt know what to do, I didnt answer the door. Through the ap, I asked him if he was outside, he said I had given him the wrong apartment number, I said that was my friend;'s aprtment, I said he had ruined the plan by coming up and now my boyfriend found it. Naively I hoped he would go away. The doorman called on the interphone (I didn't answer, how could I communicate?) He keeps threatening to call the police (for what?) if I don't come down and pay him. He then switched to if I didnt come down he would hurt me. I said I would pay him through an app. Then he said he's going to have the building superintendant come to the apartment (for what offense?). A guy who I guess is the supe knocks on the door, I don't answer (what would I say?) I finally convince him to accept payment online (I guess he's still in the lobby) and now he demands I send him 400, then 500. He accuses me of doing this to other GPs and says I should be punished, that he will call the police because gringos should know that sexual tourism is illegal. I send him 250 plus 15 for uber and I close the ap. I'm sure that when I reopen it there will be 30 messages on there threatening me and demanding the rest. I feel so burned because it was he who was so at fault by misrepresenting himself, yet I paid the full price and I am afraid to leave the apartment for fear of getting beaten up. Yeah, I think I will stick to the saunas (and yes, the non-paid Grindr hookups)

I’ve been asking around about Screwboys for the last couple of weeks. Haven’t found anybody that has heard anything. I even asked a couple of Mamasans if they have heard from any of the Screwboy Mamasans. Nothing. It does just seem lost and forgotten for at least now.