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Lets see, ive not yet born 40 years ago but anyway. Blue boy closes already since the lockdown. So is gtower divine bliss. Anyway, during current lockdown, all bars are closed anyway and i dont go to bars here so i cant provide anymore detail. But i do see some MB (money boys) that goes to zouk bar before covid. Pre-lockdown, sauna also still very active, but covid did brings down some sauna that i heard were permenantly closed. Not sure if we will see they open up again post covid. Massage precovid was open albeit on the down low. Some continue to open during covid time but recently several centers were raided. The raids are mainly focused on licensing, breach of Covid restriction and immigration, but the media of course capitalize the fact that the center serve gay clients. Pictures of masseurs (blurred faces) were publish in FB, and comments on the post is not something i wish to read. Nevertheless, if i want a massage, there are still options available. MB were active in grindr pre-covid, with healthy streams of indonesian MBs that comes using the visa free option and stay here 2-3 weeks at a time. There are also those from thailand, nepal, myanmar MBs too, mostly from those who uses to work in different area and change profession. Some are also holder of UNCHR. Occassionally we have western MBs/rentmen visiting. Covid time, this has significantly reduced. Hope itll return back to normalcy next year. Politcally, i dont see any changes soon. We have activists but they are hiding behind HIV/STI causes, rather than specifically for Gay. In social media, those transgender ones are the one being subjected to attack or ridicule since they are accused of not respecting the religion beliefs. One famous case recently is Sajat, an enterpreneur who is in hiding now after failing to attend her court day where she was charged of insulting the religion for dressing like a women in a religious event she sponsor. But she is an influencer and a damn good entepreneur, and people are buying her products despite of this. There are few more of these. We have siti kasim, a lawyer who always support lgbt+ right, safiey illias, another transgender influencer. Anyway, other than these few cases, if it happens in private, no one cares, not even the gov. While there is laws in about sodomy inherited from the old colonial law, it is not enforced. But we have a separate religious court and only applicable to muslim. So gays from other religion here dont really have any legal issues being gay here, other than the bully and discriminationa from their close community/relatives/friends

Hope I haven't skewed the poll. I have voted other because I live in Thailand and can't wait to visit family and friends in the UK

I think it is great that as many as possible contribute. I certainly don't see any contribution as highjacking. Let's have more. But I just feel - and it's a personal view - that looking at the situation of being gay in Thailand from a western perspective inevitably leads to quite a few inaccurate conclusions. I have seen the decorations at Sam Yan and am delighted they are there. Yes, it is close to two Universities. But I have to add that there are more than 50 Universities in Bangkok! What have they been doing to celebrate Pride month I wonder? Merely a question because I just do not know. Also, let's be frank. Sam Yan really is not a major hub in Bangkok. My guess is that students at Chula University are more likely to alight at Siam. Now if that display had been in the Siam/Paragon area, I believe it would have had a far greater effect. Still it is a start. I am certain that many students in other cities throughout the Kingdom are much more pro-LGBT than their elders. Students are often at the forefront of social change everywhere. Hopefully this might be true also in Thailand. But I believe it is vitally important to remember that students graduate and many move into the professions. And it is in those very professions where there is entrenched homophobia in this country. Will most of them be so keen to be known as gay when promotions, salary increases etc. are dependent on being seen to fit in to accepted norms promoted by the older generations? Will they march if there is a Pride Parade in, say, 5 years time? The graduate generation before them have not and probably will not, alas. Will major Thai corporations like TRUE or AIS contribute with cash and banners, as is the case with locally based companies at Singapore's Pink Dot after the government banned the many international companies from becoming involved? I am less convinced by those commenting in the media. Yes, there have been articles going back at least to the early 1990s. I have already mentioned Khun Natee who deserves far more credit than I believe he is given for really starting a nascent gay rights movement. Yet his base is in Chiang Mai and it was in Chiang Mai in 2009 that its second Pride Parade was shouted down by local inhabitants and had to be abandoned. It took 10 years before another could be considered. When was Phuket's Pride parade cancelled - three or four years ago? An article in Coconuts (below) states that the number of taking in the 2016 March along the Patong beachfront was 100. Just 100! It adds that, as in Bangkok years earlier, farang were involved in the organisation. I cannot stress enough my view that having farang in any key positions in the organisation of a Parade/Pink Dot or other celebration here in Bangkok is a recipe for a non-event (and I know some farang will scream at this!) I also think if the Parade is anywhere close to the gay areas in Silom/Suriwong, it will fail. As I have again stated, Taipei's Pride Parade works amazingly primarily because it has always been organised by a group of locals and, as far as I am aware, steers clear of the only major gay locale - the Red House. Returning to the subject of those being open about being gay in the media, as I stressed earlier if you take away the hospitality, arts, entertainment and fashion industries which traditionally have a large number of gay employees in most countries, I have seen very few Thai individuals commenting about being gay. Even in that group of four industries I listed, there are also huge numbers who are gay, who are known by their colleagues to be gay and who are written about as though suspected of being gay by the entertainment media - but they will still not consider coming out as gay. https://coconuts.co/bangkok/features/thailands-only-pride-parade-marched-phuket-photo-essay-0/ As for local views in the countryside, there was an interesting article in the Bangkok Post five years ago at the time of the Gay nightclub shooting in Florida. Perhaps this puts homophobia in Thailand into a better perspective. . . . truth be told, homophobia isn't the exclusive terrain of any particular religion or country. Those who think that Thailand is immune to such homophobia and violence against lesbians, gays, bisexuals and transgenders (LGBT) have been fooled by the myth of "acceptance". In fact, local media has reported cases of violence against this group. A few years ago, a woman admitted to having her daughter's lesbian lover killed in Trat because she wanted her child to date a man. The victim clearly was murdered because of her sexual orientation and gender identity -- she was a tom, the Thai term for a self-styled masculine lesbian. In another case, two 17-year-old students in a lesbian relationship were found dead in Nong Khai with more than 60 stab wounds between them. Police suspected they were killed out of jealousy over their relationship. Moreover, many lesbians are subjected to rape in order to "cure" their sexual orientation, often by their own family members -- a subject rarely discussed due to the stigma around rape and lesbianism. A father in Loei confessed to having raped his 14-year-old daughter for four years in order to stop her from socialising with tom. Worse, there is a worrying trend that this so-called corrective rape is being normalised in Thai society through the expression Kae Tom Som Dee or "fixing tom and dee" – dee are the feminine counterpart to tom . . . Therefore, if we are shocked by this senseless loss of lives in Florida, the first thing we should do is to fight the root causes of homophobia in our own backyard, where much of the medical profession still considers transgenderism as a form of mental disorder; where the predominantly "Buddhist" population believes that LGBTs are sinful for past-life adultery and therefore deserve lower status; where all junior high-school students are taught by government-approved curriculum that homosexuality constitutes sexual deviancy; and where popular TV programmes regularly caricature LGBTs as promiscuous and spreaders of HIV/Aids. https://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinion/1009557/we-need-to-fight-homophobia-at-home

A very good point which Prof. Jackson makes quite clearly. My assumption should therefore be wrong. On the other hand, I do not know how else to interpret this part of Prof. Jackson's introduction. He states the following: "In this study I draw upon Butler's Foucault-influenced account of the perfomativity of gender and sex to trace the ways that shifts in the forms of bio-power over gender in Thailand not only altered norms of masculinity and femininity but also radically changed patterns of desire and identity. I account for the emergence of the new Thai identities and gender/sexual cultures by mapping out a precise character of changes in the forms of power that the Thai state deployed in its efforts to 'civilise' the public gendering of the populace - a project of power incited into being as a response to the combined challenges of English, French, Japanese and American imperialisms in Southeast Asia in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries. This study reveals that even in the absence of Western-Style interventions in sexuality, the disruptions of traditional Siamese culture caused by the state's response to the West radically altered the performative norms of masculinity and femininity, which in turn contributed to the proliferation of new forms of transgender and same-sex identity. This Thai case study provides a counter-example to the presumption that modernity and globalisation necessarily lead to an international homogenisation of sexual cultures." Norms of masculinity and femininity - patterns of desire and identity - new Thai identities and gender/sexual cultures - disruptions of traditional Siamese culture caused by the state's response . . . radically altered the performative norms of masculinity and femininity . . . etc. All this seems to me to indicate that nothing the state did altered what had been accepted in Thai culture for a very long time, including male to male sexual relations. Prof. Jackson adds in his Para 5. "Unlike the situation in the West, where both homosexuality and cross-dressing had long been explicitly prohibited, until the later decades of the twentieth century same-sex and transgender behaviours almost completely escaped the attention of the Thai authorities." I take Prof. Jackson's study as a whole to indicate that homosexuality as we know it did exist in Thailand and that it was in no way frowned upon by the state or indeed the public as a whole. But as I have written, it is a very long Paper and I certainly have not taken it all in. I am perfectly happy for others to contradict assumptions I have made based on the texts of the two articles from which I have quoted part. The important issue for me was to air the subject, for it has long seemed that some/many hold views about being gay in Thailand that are based much more on what is happening in the west rather than on the reality of the situation as it has developed over centuries in Thailand.

I believe it is more complicated than that. It's hard to explain succinctly because Professor Jackson's writing is far from simple - at least for me! I certainly I believe Jackson does not mean that kathoey means transgender, merely a man who adopts a more feminine outlook. At one point in the first Paper, he writes about Anna Leonowens' concerns when describing inhabitants of the Royal Palace. (This was the English teacher as later portrayed as 'Anna' in "The King & I" the popular Rodgers and Hammerstein musical.) She served the King for 5 years from 1862. At this time King Mongkut had 39 wives and concubines and 82 children. Anna later wrote, "Here were women disguised as men, and men in the attire of women, hiding vice of every vileness and crime of every enormity - at once the most disgusting, the most appalling, and the most unnatural that the heart of man has conceived." Yet, as Jackson points out, what Ms. Leonowens actually saw were the somewhat Amazonian female guards of the King's harem and actors performing in one of the all-male troupes. As in the time of Shakespeare, men took on the role of women on stage. She had simply failed to note much gender differentiation between men and women. "All Siamese women were perceived as masculine and all Siamese men as feminine," wrote Jackson. Even in the late 1940s, a Study of the Thai village of Bang Chan (now a suburb of Bangkok) noted that "there are very few cultural roles, apart from those associated with religion, which can not be played by either men or women . . . Thai culture in its secular aspects seems to consider all adults as simply human beings together, without major distinction of sex roles; behaviour which is appropriate to one person is equally appropriate to another." In this case, the word "roles" does not refer to a stage play. It merely means in life in general. He then adds from the same Study, "The degree of equality between the sexes which exists in Thailand . . . is a characteristic which strongly distinguishes the norms of Thai society from those of India, China or Japan, or even the Catholic Philippines and Muslim Indonesia. It is a characteristic which predated the influence of Hindu culture and the acceptance of Buddhism with their androcentrism and emphasis on masculine values." Thus the sameness of the sexes in Thailand is millennia old. As seems to be indicated by that Study - equality also refers to sexual relations. But the Westernization of the people by imposing the mandate that women and men dress very differently and specifically had also resulted in changes in attitudes to sex. Last point. There are virtually no references to kathoey until a 1924 newspaper article. It is only after World War II that the term becomes more commonly used. I suspect (and it is nothing more than that) that by enforcing a different dress code for men and women, thereafter it became much more difficult for men to have sex with other men. After all, in the past it would have been difficult for others to tell who were men and who were women! With the completely new dress code, the kathoey looked feminine and so became attractive to men seeking a homosexual tryst. I'm sorry, that is all far from simple! I hope it makes some kind of sense.

Just confirmed a trip to Punta Cana in the Dominican Republic for friend's birthday in November. Any members have any updated info/reco's for Punta Cana DR (not the capital)? Last trip there was in 2012 so I am wildly out of date on the state of Punta Cana/Bávaro. I once took home a stripper from Fugoo who was from Punta Cana so my expectations are high :-)

Thanks! After 2 episodes I would say it is worth watching! A bit similar to 1000 stars but lower on budget and with maybe 3 potential couples including a transgender role (not the typical screeching one). Let's see how they find each other in only 8 episodes a 30 minutes. Nice Isaan style music! Yes the product placement is weird, but I don't mind it, for me it is almost a part of Thai BL, even more so in the lower budget series like this one probably is. Not convinced yet? Goodlooking cast with some muscles included - or shall I say extremely goodlooking - let the pictures below talk. Oh, and there were already 2 shower scenes in the first 2 episodes ... Than Din Mek Dan Mankon There is even a reference to 1000 stars:

I have hardly watched any western gay porn since the days of Johann Paulik and his Bel Ami vdos. So I cannot comment on current standards. On the other hand, I have watched far more Asian porn and seen how some of the producers have developed with product that offer great looking models and considerable creativity. Japan has had its own brand of gay vdos for decades. Some of the boys, especially if you are into twinks or heavy butch types, look amazing. Unfortunately, too many are totally formulaic. See one and you have seen a thousand others, although you will occasionally find a studio that features mcch stronger story lines. Then the curse is that so many are stuck with Japanese law which demands pixelation. Sadly for us today, Japan had no such restrictions in magazines, books and its famous erotic wood carvings until westerners arrived with Commander Perry followed by shiploads of Christian missionaries. Such carvings (shunga) had in fact been banned during the later Shogun era but the ban was never really enforced. Since the end of World War 2 and the American occupation, much more attention has been paid to the Code in Japanese law restricting the distribution of 'indecent' materials. Hence the arrival of pixelation! It all seems so ridiculous given that nudity is not a big thing in Japan. In fact in Japanese hot springs and public bath houses it is totally common. But . . . ! A lot of Korean porn is also pixelated. More is acted out but nothing is really seen apart from tits and ass. Taiwan seems to be turning out much better short videos with great looking models and decent story lines. I have rarely seen movie-length Thailand videos,Most of what is produced seems geared for internet with little creativity - the same shots, same crude story lines but often some great looking models. Am I missing something?

the challenge is that there are so many "creators" on platforms like OF that it can be hard to find the good content. And I think it's harder than you might think to be successful at OF. The best channels figure out how to find other guys to "collaborate" with. But just boring JO and picture channels won't last too long - and there are lots of those. I think the performers get bored too. And you have to spend a lot of time on social media promotion to stand out from the crowd

Thailand just put itself under high risk category, so thailand citizen not allowed to visit phuket?

You want sausage or cream pie?

Thanks for the interesting topic PeterRS, and for attempting to translate the labyrinthine language of the Jackson articles into meaningful English haha. (The mantra that I always held in my head when writing academic articles, was that if your ideas are sound, you should be capable of communicating them in a way that the average person can understand. All too often some academics seemingly write in highly complex language to impress and 'black cat' their fellow academics haha.) If I have understood correctly, he is observing on sexual relationships within Thai communities and changing (or not) attitudes towards them across different levels of Thai society? So a few observations if I may: - As Westerners visiting Thailand our natural instinct is to view things through the eyes of our own cultural values, often without sufficient understanding or appreciation of the differing cultural values of the Thai people. - As I understand it, Thai prostitution with farang is dwarfed by the levels of Thai on Thai prostitution. Many boys on Facebook and Twitter, for example, write in THai with pictures and rates to attract fellow Thai rather than farang. - Indeed Thai may hold a different perspective on prostitution with farang? Parents man not be enthralled by the prospect of their sons and daughters selling themselves to farang, but the rewards are often high and money flows back to the family. I have heard it excused as a lucrative form of employment, selling themselves to farang customers. Not only am I only gay, or at least bisexual, in Thailand, but not at my very conventional home village, my long, long time is from Laos and he also feels the need to appear 'straight' back in his home and confine his (voraciously) gay appetite to Pattaya. Funny old world! haha.

I agree on much of the history but we diverge as we look forward. The fact that 19 coups have occurred tells us that they still haven't got it right yet: the "have" minority still continues to dominate the political scene. And I continue to believe that nothing that occurs in regards to changing a system of government is free of politics. Culture and religion may be factors--important factors--but they are also political in their very nature. When you seek to alter a government due to religion or culture, politics always infringes. Looking west, I was encouraged that the gay community in Warsaw managed to overcome strong cultural, religious and political opposition and held a Gay Pride march this past week. That it came when Poland is embroiled in a controversial law that demonizes homosexuals demonstrates the tenacity and power of resistance.

Very few porn "studios" offer any creative vision. Most wouldn't know how to define HOT sex when captured on motion pictures if they wanted to. Most rely on an age-old formula, which is very dull and very boring. Don't even mention the stupid studios who still use awful music tracks as background sound. Some amateur sex workers have figured out a way to film hot sex themselves. It helps that newer cameras can handle low-light (or bad light) situations better than ever before. IMO, if you put a sex worker in front of a mirror and tell him to do his thing, simply by turning the camera on you'll often get much more sexy material than what comes out of some tired studio. Very happy to see the bad ones die. The glut of awful porn in the world is a waste of time.

Daddy - please, I want more beef!

I can say from my observation, not much diff between say 20 years back than now. Shiah has always been banned, but i believed they are back by iran not saudi. Wahabi is new simply because it is also a new faction heavily backed by saudi. But these two, like u mention is minority, and hardly an issue with majority of us. I cant say we are moving in any direction with regards of our goverment stand with islam. The legal system has always been that sharia law is below the civil system, and cannot have laws that contradicts the civil system.

How did I not know about this guy? Damn!

I voted for Asia, Thailand hopefully, I have a lot of lost fun times to make up for and dreaming that we can start traveling soon as possible

same same me, Mr traveller123. I haven't been back to the UK since I moved to live in Thailand ten years ago and now I really want to go back for a long visit, but maybe not until late 2022 or the following year.

I told you, don't slap the salami while at the table.

I did! I voted for Asia. I hear many good things about the Thai islands (not been) but depending on cost/whatever everyone else decides to do that could easily switch to Mexico

I'm torn between Asia (really want to go island hopping) and Mexico (amazing food and even better men) but I'm also resisting the urge to book anything until things stabilise more. Right now living through trip reports - so thanks to you and everyone who has braved travels to keep the rest of us entertained!

This was fun in my younger years!

From CNN (CNN)Carl Nassib, a defensive lineman with the Las Vegas Raiders, became the first active NFL player in league history to announce that he is gay. "What's up, people," Nassib said Monday in a video on Instagram. "I'm Carl Nassib. I'm at my house here in Westchester, Pennsylvania. I just wanted to take a quick moment to say that I'm gay. I've been meaning to do this for a while now, but I finally feel comfortable enough to get it off my chest." Nassib, 28, is entering his second season with the Raiders. He was drafted by the Cleveland Browns in the third round of the 2016 NFL draft. He played for the Browns from 2016-2017, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 2018 and 2019 and was signed by the Raiders as an unrestricted free agent on March 23, 2020. https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/21/us/nfl-carl-nassib-gay-spt/index.html

no idea where it's streaming ,try to use links from this site, worked for me when I tried seconds ago https://world-of-bl.com/index.php/Thai/MannerOfDeath also try to search dailymotion or YouTube

I don't reject the idea that discrimination--of all kinds--is deeply rooted in Thai culture as it is the culture of many other nations. But I don't believe that it can't change and evolve. We can find anecdotal evidence to support either side of the argument I suppose but I prefer to view the glass half full. I agree that many of the young people will go on to adopt norms similar to that of their parents but others will go on to reject them. Cultural is fluid over time and not set in stone. Young people are more courageous than their elders. That's why nations send their youth to fight wars because they tend to be stronger and more fearless. Those same qualities can be assets used to battle discrimination. So I hope that these young people will surprise us and prove that they're capable of changing their society. It's admittedly an aspirational view but one I choose to hold on to even more as Thais come to grips with the country's political unrest.

In this and another thread I have ben promoting a sometimes unpopular view about Thai society and its views on gays in particular. I think Khun Sirisakposh makes an important point when he says - "Gender discrimination is deeply entrenched in Thai society, and it’s so subtle that people don’t usually see it."

From Vietnam News A scene from Ròm movie with the actor Trần Anh Khoa (left). — Photo idolvnnet.com HÀ NỘI — Trần Anh Khoa, the young actor who played the titular character in Ròm has been awarded the best actor award at the 18th Asian Film Festival which concluded in Rome, Italy on Wednesday. The organisers praised Khoa for his instinctive, energetic and agile acting to play a character who is constantly moving in a hectic life in the city. On behalf of Khoa, who is still in Canada, a representative of the Vietnamese Embassy in Italy received the award and said they appreciated the recognition and encouragement of the organising board for the Vietnamese film industry, especially for young and promising talents. Set in a squalid tenement for working-class Saigoneers, the movie revolves around số đề, an illegal gambling game that piggybacks on Việt Nam’s official lottery operation. Ròm and a gaggle of other street kids make money from selling lottery result slips and taking bets for số đề bookies as “runners”. The Asian Film Festival in Italy was organised by the Robert Bresson Film Foundation, which selected the best East Asian films in terms of art and genre. https://vietnamnews.vn/life-style/979862/khoa-wins-best-actor-award-for-rom-at-asian-film-festival.html Trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFLHDs1MUGw

Pass the warm chocolate sauce and jug of whipped cream please.....:)

You should swallow that, it's good for you

You have something on your lips

Sadly there is no vaccine available to farang in Pattaya. The ThailandIntervac site that was supposed to be for farang to register for the vaccine has been closed down, after leaking people's personal information. I have registered with three hospitals who all tell me that they don't expect to have any vaccine until October at best. If we won't even get the first dose until October then there should be no opening of borders as far as I am concerned.

new series with pretty Korean boys starts next week

Fascinating. I knew that my boyfriend was very close to his parents and he claimed that they were fully aware of his sexuality but that the subject was never discussed. We'd been together for four years or more before I received the invitation to visit in Kamphaeng Phaet. I had felt rather hurt by his reluctance, particularly in view of the falangs I knew who'd been "taken home" at an early stage in their relationships. I wondered whether the poverty in which they lived was an issue, and without explaining why, I talked to him about my experiences in West Africa, where the poverty in some rural villages and compounds I'd visited (and ate in, from communal bowls) was way beyond that of rural Thailand. But no. I had to tease out the reasons why my invitation was relatively late in arriving; nothing to do with poverty, parent or family; everything to do with the close-knit village in which his family lived and its collective view of homosexuality. A gay man, he told me, was considered to be effeminate. P is straight-looking and acting. He didn't want to be considered a ladyboy, or anything like it. About a year earlier, I'd paid for a house to be built next to his parents to provide a better environment for him....it even had an indoor toilet and bathroom! However, he was there for only six years when the opportunity arose for him to move about ten kms away, to a secluded (relatively speaking) but older house with its own plot of land. I have to admit to being upset. That house near his parents had cost me dear; I'd been involved in every stage of its planning and construction. I must confess to a feeling of pride for what I'd done for him. And of hurt by his decision. But again, the desire for privacy and separation from the village trumped everything else, including being willing to swap the smart concrete house I'd paid for an old and traditional one. I stress that P , who's now thirty-eight, is straight-looking and acting. And exclusively and assertively gay. But the hold the community still had on him was immense. He visits his parents everyday; but his sexuality ensures that he will no longer live there. In an odd way, bearing the mind the part I played in his two houses, including the fitting-up and refurbishment of his new one, I am something of a victim too!

Love Sick Season 2 (2015) With 36 episodes the longest series I am aware of, but probably also with a record of gay couples at the end of the series. A BL couple comes never alone! This is the main couple, Pun and No: Here is an article with some interesting and/or fun facts about Thai BL, especially Love Sick. https://boyloveperusal.wordpress.com/2021/04/06/looking-back-six-years-of-love-sick/ The terms Seme and Uke, used in the article, are explained here: https://boyloveperusal.wordpress.com/2020/06/15/a-beginners-guide-to-thai-bl/ A dialogue as it can only appear in a Thai BL series:

That is their spinach ravioli.

After four years of Trump and with the Republican Party now in thrall to a self-centred 'Emperor has no Clothes' moron, I cannot help wondering: why is it that with so many investigations into his businesses and his own dirty deeds that have been going on for years, still no charges have been brought against him? The Manhattan attorneys have been investigating Trump for years, but still nothing has happened. How come? His Finance guy Weisselberg has finally been hauled before a Grand Jury, but what about all the other people supposedly involved? What is happening about the Deutsche Bank investigations? What is happening about all the Russians who bought Trump properties in Manhattan and Florida? I find it almost impossible to believe that investigations take so long even to drag up just one piece of evidence of illegal shenanigans.

I guess part of the reason might be that not all dirty deeds and dodgy dealings are criminal offenses. And in business dealings, things can be absurdly complex and evidence gathering very difficult. Just my 2 cents. I'd rather see him actually, physically behind bars sooner than later!

This year 2021 marks 20 years of going to Brazil, usually 4 times a year, sometimes 5. I wanted to write about some of the friends i have made. this is about “boys” i have met that are now men in successful careers! i have stayed in touch with them . 1) A.F. was a guy who at 19 ended up in Rio from the small town a 100 miles from São Paulo. He is gay and became the boyfriend of one of the sauna owners and a year after that ended, worked in the sauna as a “boy” for about a year and then moved to Paris to be a gogo boy with 2 other sauna guys. about a year after arriving in Paris he could speak conversational French and enrolled in college and 1 year ago graduated with a accounting degree, and looks physically like a beautiful muscle god! 2) in 2013 the manager of Mezziniu sauna in Porto Alegre approached me and asked if i would be interested in a friend of his that was Not a sauna guy but needed to make some extra money that weekend? i told him no that usually guys doing it the first tine are not that good or that much fun! then he said why don’t you just talk to him? He is sitting at the bar in street clothes! He was handsome 21 and attending law school the following year! i saw him every trip i made to Porto Alegre! He became a lawyer 2 years ago, i saw him last a year ago, i remember it well because we were drinking and we had sex 4 times that night, the most ever with one guy in one night! 3) 12 years ago i was in Rio and met who i thought was one of the most handsome guys i had met, he was in his early 20’s and told me he was in college and going to go to med school. It turns out he didn’t go to med school but Dental school and is now a dentist in Rio! Dentists are allowed to give Botox in Brazil and when i was there 3 weeks ago he did a session on me and i have to say he did a great job! I met what was and still is one f the nicest guys ever! a year later he joined the French Foreign legion. At the time he was already a black belt in Brazilian JuJitsu and has been living in the FFL base in Corsica and traveling the world with them! he messaged me yesterday messages me that he has put his 4 years in and is getting out finishing his degree in 1-1/2 years and opening a Brazilian JuJitsu school in France! He is going to a international competition in Mexico next year! there are more stories but these mare my top 4 who i have kept in contact with! here are non face photos of the 4

I can't remember the last time I watched a music video.

Hey it's Easter so here's George with a little Faith: george-michael-faith-(480p).mp4