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Truly one of the rudest, inconsiderate posts I have ever seen. @Drifter, you should be ashamed of yourself.

My first was a rather nervous affair for both of us. So if the TS does not mind, I'll tell a bit about the first time I fell seriously in love. I love Japan and had visited three times on business. That third time I met a great guy and we arranged to meet again on my next visit. After dinner we both went to one of Tokyo's gay bars for a couple of drinks before returning to his place. Quite soon I noticed a young guy taking drinks to customers who had extraordinary charisma. He also spoke very good English. When he brought our drinks, his smile was heart melting. My friend had to leave the city to spend the following day with his family. So in the evening I decide to return to the bar even though it was a Sunday and pissing with rain. When I got there, there were only two other customers. But my barman friend was on duty. So I sat at the bar and spent the better part of three hours just chatting and flirting with him. The longer I stayed, the more I wanted to be with him. Around 11:15 he said he had to leave to catch his last train home. I don't know why I had not the courage to ask him back to my hotel. Having put on his rain jacket, he came in front of the bar, said goodbye to me and trailed his hand gently over my ass. If that was not a signal, I don't know what would have been. But I remained rooted to the spot. Ten minutes later, I decided to get my last train back to the hotel. I was still kicking myself for having been such an idiot. After walking a few meters in the rain, I thought "fuck it". The night is still young and I have to leave tomorrow night. I knew there was a small disco next door to the bar which I had never been to. So I decided just to go there, check the eye candy and have a whisky or two. It was on the second floor - basically two smallish rooms divided into a bar area and a dance floor. Without looking I went straight to the bar and got my whisky. I then turned to the dancers. I nearly dropped my glass when I saw that my friend from the bar was there in the middle of the floor dancing on his own. I was completely surprised! Eventually he turned and noticed me. He extended his arm and signalled for me to join him. After saying it was nice to see me again, he asked why I had not responded to his overture to follow him. Can't recall what I said but soon we were dancing body hugged to body and it was clear we were both aroused. He then shocked me by putting his hand down my trousers. Even though no one else was looking at us, it seemed a most un-Japanese thing to do. End result. He came back to my hotel and we spent a sleepless night making love every which way. We kept seeing each other for many months. I took a long holiday there and he came to stay with me for a month. As with all long distance relationships, difficulties arose and it could not last. But it was amazing while it did.

+1 I think the moderator of this forum should delete @Drifter offensive comment.

Purachai was a deeply religious family man and a pal of Prime Minister Thaksin. He loved joining the major raids and having his photo in the papers. There was one of him holding a used condom outside Babylon. He was quoted as saying this proved that there were illegal sexual activities going on inside. If only the idiot had thought about it, his colleagues in the health ministry should have been delighted that people attending saunas actually wore condoms. I take exception to your comment that there was open exploitation of kids in the main bars in Bangkok, certainly those frequented by westerners. There was no exploitation by 2001. That may not have been the case in Pattaya and almost certainly not the case upcountry in the bars frequented only by Thais. Perhaps not surprisingly, it was upcountry where his nightlife reforms were especially popular. The number of bars in Twilight may have increased but other bars closed and the offerings in the bars from 2001 onwards were nowhere near like those before Purachai appeared. There was an interesting article in the New York Times in 2006 about the effect of the Social Order campaigns. This talks about the effect on the late night dance clubs, most of which quite quickly died soon thereafter. It adds "one night at the 15-year-old Zouk bar in Singapore provides more real action and excitement than you'd find in an entire week on R.C.A." (Royal City Avenue, one of the three permitted entertainment zones, this one catering more for Thais). Having been at SIngapore's Zouk Bar several times in the mid-1990s, it was a fabulous place for spending a long evening and seeing a lot of great eye candy. Zouk rarely closed before 4:00 am. Even Kurt Wachtveitl, the revered long term GM of the Oriental Hotel, wrote of his objection to the early closing mandated by Purachai and its effect on tourism. It is also interesting, I believe, to realise that what the Thai elite objected to was far less what was going on in the bars and saunas - they actively disliked the dance clubs and especially their effect on their high-born daughters. As the award-winning author Alex Kerr points out in his very perceptive book Bangkok Found - "Politicians and bureaucrats see dance as dangerous and have done their best to restrict it, by granting few dance licences and tightening the zoning for entertainment districts, and requiring clubs to close earlier and earlier. Bangkok is already far more restrictive than Singapore or Tokyo when it comes to officially mandated times for closing and permitted age limits for entry." https://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/01/travel/social-order-takes-the-life-out-of-night-life-letter-from-bangkok.html

The one who masterminded and implemented the new social order campaign in 2001 was Interior Minister Purachai Piumsomboon. He was famous for personally heading up a team of police and reporters and raiding bars, looking for reasons to close them down. Yes, he seemed more focused on the boy bars rather than the girlie bars. A Thai boy I used to off regularly at the time told me that Purachai took out his anger on the boy bars, because he had a son who was gay. I don't know if this is correct, but that's what I was told at the time about twenty years ago. Anyway, Purachai no longer lives in Thailand. He moved to New Zealand many years ago.

The 7 days plan is for vaccinated person with negative test result. Not sure if its already implemented but 7 days is still 7 days too long for me.

When I was around 15-16 and had an avid teenage sexual appetite, I had a serious infatuation with my best friend, a very cute blond blue-eyed boy, my age. A real crush. One day, we playfully started to wrestle. Don’t ask me how I found the courage to kiss him and to start undressing him. His smooth chest was glistening with fresh sweat, and a pungent aroma emanated from his pits. I instinctively licked his salty sweat off, sniffed and licked his pits, and slowly, very timidly, I went down his abs until I peeled his underwear off and buried my nose in his very fragrant pubes. I found the scent of his crotch, his groin, his sweaty balls, and his musky ass wildly intoxicating: I just couldn’t get enough of it. His uncut dick was hard as a rock and, even if at the beginning I didn’t particularly like the cheesy smell of his foreskin, it contributed to my horniness. I learned to appreciate that cock scent later on. That was the first cock I sucked, the first boy I kissed, the first sweet cum I tasted. I still vividly remember the fragrances and the excitement. The rest is history.

what about letting market do it's work. banned this and barred that, isn't it job of private clubs , not a public bars ?

Little here about art. So hopefully this might start the ball rolling. Whenever I travel I try to take in an art exhibition or visit a gallery. Occasionally I will see work of art which stuns me. Caravaggio is a favourite painter of many gay guys. In Bangkok a year or so ago there was a wonderful exhibition of digital reproductions. Not like seeing the originals but they looked wonderful. I remember about 3 decades ago a friend took me to the rather dingy interior of the French Church in Rome not far from the Piazza Navona. There was a side chapel near the altar. When you put some Lire into an electricity box, the chapel lit up and there before us were three large stunning Caravaggio paintings. Even earlier there was one painting which i have been tracking down for decades - and never found. I was in Berlin in the early 1980s. I wanted to see East Berlin and so took the S-Bahn across to Alexanderplatz. The drabness of that open space was enough for me. I got on the next train back to the west. Alighting at the first stop, I noticed a museum. In the basement I saw a painting that I recall was a Renoir bursting with colour, such a contrast to the scene I had just witnessed. Since then i have tried to find that painting, without success. Back in Berlin a few years ago, I noted that the Museum no longer existed. But I did attend a Monet exhibition and saw one painting (below) that was very similar to what I remembered as a Renoir. But the Renoir had the figures running towards the stream from a house in the upper left. I am resigned never to finding it! A painting which has literally grabbed me was one I saw in London's small Courtauld gallery 5 years ago. I had not wanted to go as I was very tired that day, but my friend insisted. So we trooped around what is an interesting gallery. Then I saw this large painting by Edouard Manet - Un Bar aux Folles-Bergere. I was immediately captivated. Nothing in the painting seemed to make sense. The barmaid is looking out at us with a blank expression. Behind we see the audience enjoying the titllating show of the Follies Bergere. But then we can see her back curved behind and on her right. We also see that she is talking to an elderly man. What is he doing? Ordering a drink? Unlikely given the blank reaction of the barmaid. Perhaps he is seeking an assignation after the show. Then we realise that all the way behind her is a curved mirror and that the audience is in fact in front of her. There are lots of other fascinating things about the painting whichI will not go into here. But I remain fascinated by it.

Black Superman in action!!! Santo Domingo is once again POPPING! The colonial zone was crowded and festive. They were actually filming a movie in front of the restaurant EL Conde, which is my favorite place to eat. Great mango smoothies and the food is simply delicious. There is a gym with hot guys going in and out for a GOOD PUMP (Pun Intended). The gym is across from Petrus restaurant. Remember to buy the Dominican Masks at the vendors on the street. I get stopped by people all the time when I return to the United States. The guy in the video is BODY PLEASER. WE had been fkcuing all day long on our first day in the DR. Not sure if I mentioned this before, but the doctor who manny knows comes over to where you are staying and administers the covid test, emails you the result and you have no problems reentering the U.S. When we arrived to the airport, there was a SEXY ASS worker who checking us in at SPIRIT AIRLINES. Of course, my nasty ass make a few complimentary lewd comments to him and within 4 minutes I had his number. He's a beautiful dominican, haitian and should be walking someones runway. Until next time fellas, STAY SAFE, HAPPY & SLUTTY! VID_20210314_113402.mp4

Yes but it was a few years ago when I was single. He was a gogo in Brazil who became a successful fitness model in Europe (on the covers of several magazines). He had a handsome face and a stunning physique. His income was erratic and he was saving to study for an advanced degree. So he chose occasional sex-work to supplement his income. We had a torrid affair for a while. But it was all about his looks, as he wasn’t that passionate in bed. He needed to drink quite a bit of alcohol to relax and get wild in bed. Only then would he bottom (with condom) for me or let me face-fuck him and unload in his mouth. He was great arm-candy socially. He did suggest he become my boyfriend and look after my apartment for me…but after I’d played with him several times, I lost interest. Anyone else who hired him for sex would remember him. Not just for his physical beauty but also for his decent-sized cock, which had a pronounced hook shape at the head. Last I heard, he earned his MBA and was working for a bank in Brazil.

Seems like the golden years of gogo and gay bars was marred and possibly kept alive by exploitation of underage offerings. Those bars that were closed due to clamped down of underage sex workers deserved to be closed, as well as those who frequent these bars. If current offerings is a direct result of thailand now free of underage sex workers, so be it. The more recent changes precovid is definitely due to availablity of apps such as grindr that makes hooking up, free or paid, much simpler, without middle man, and available 24/7. Having said this, everyone have access to the apps anywhere, even back home. What i dont have at home and went to thailand to find are the gogo bars, many selections of guys at the massage/bars, cheap overnight rate, plenty of delicous and cheap thai food. We do have massage here, usually cheaper, but none have the masseurs available in front of you for u to choose like arena. Another uniqueness about thailand is ST and LT, where in most places, the charges are by hours, and overnight is usually much higher (4-5 times higher than 1 hour charge) thus making overnight in thailand so cheap. Hence i tried as much as i can to get a LT when im in bangkok. Admittedly, its getting harder to get one that i like and also open to LT. Hoping my regulars will still be around when i can go there

My favourite restaurant from my very limited time in Pattaya is Pupen Seafood South of Jomtien, it has a really big menu with thai, chinese and other styles of seafood. It is on the expensive side but everything i had there was great. https://g.page/pupenseafood?share (google maps link).

I was a late starter to m2m pleasures although the curiosity had been there for a long time I had never had the courage to act upon it. My first was in Phuket about 21 years ago, I went for a Thai massage but the shop I went to only had a male available at that time so needing the massage I said ok. His massage skills were very good and afterwards he noticed I was erect and he asked if I wanted a bj and sure enough my answer was yes, wow, he really blew my mind and from that moment I was hooked. I then became a massage junkie, standard 2hr massage and some after pleasures. Curiosity to go further still remained and many years later on a trip to Bangkok I visited a gay massage shop for the usual 2hr massage and a bj and hopefully a bit more so went fully prepared just in case, massage was ok and then I noticed he was fully erect so the fun started. After a short while of playing with each other I asked if he would like to f*ck me and his face lit up whith a big smile. Making sure he was gentle to start with he then proceded to pop my rear end cherry and it was quite enjoyable. Since then on every trip I have enjoyed bottoming for the Thai guys and also love to suck them too. The exploration of m2m pleasures continues for me.

I'm under impression that Covid wise that's the case for most countries

It's a real problem. Forcing people to lie about their behavior makes them vulnerable and that's not something you want in the Whitehouse. Plus telling people it'd be ok, just tell the truth and then turning around and doing this... not good. Though on the other hand, I've had a couple pot head boys live with me and the kind of person who has to have pot every day isn't the kind of person I'd hire, especially for a critical role. But occasionally or in the past, who gives a fuck?

Smart is still looking great as always. Nutt seems to have become beefier. As per a mama san, Babe has not started working yet, one new face was just a special appearance while the other one in blue(?) brief is a new regular model. She spoke very highly of Nutt. She asked me when i would visit bkk again. according to her, the quarantine requirement has been decreased to 7 days only. but i was not able to verify it on google yet. hope she got the correct and the most update info.

I can't find the thread I started on boytoy showing pix of hot men in masks. I thought this guy deserved a place here:

As far as I know, none of mine are gay owned, but all are definitely gay-friendly. There's a new restaurant on Soi Yen Akat (about 400 meters from the Malaysia Hotel) called Workshop. Intimate, mid-price but great food and service. At least one of the staff came from Zanotti in Soi Saldaeng. Portions may be on the smallish side if you are desperately hungry! Il Bolognaise at the end of the short Sathorn Soi 7 (the Singapore Embassy is on the corner of Sathorn and Sathorn Soi 7). Been around quite a few years, excellent Italian food at reasonable prices. Near the top end of the price scale, Eat Me off Soi Convent has consistently been wonderful for probably around 20 years. Great atmosphere, impeccable friendly service, Australian fusion menu, several wines by the glass selections - and fabulous desserts! For a small coffee shop with a small menu of excellent food and again excellent service, Kush on Soi Nanglinchee has become a favourite. For breakfast or brunch, their scrambled eggs with melted cheese, bacon, salad and the largest and best croissant you will find in the city is superb. Nanglinchee is the extension of Soi Suan Plu off Sathorn. Kush is on the right just before the gas station on the opposite side. For Thai food, it takes a lot to beat Ruen Urai. This is set in a Thai House in the grounds of the Rose Hotel off Suriwong. This s nothing like the hotel itself. The quality is really excellent and the atmosphere almost unbeatable. However, always book ahead and ask to be seated on the ground floor. The upper floor is boring! Mid-price. The only restaurant that I have ever found gay un-friendly was Indigo off the Silom end of Soi Convent. French cuisine, mid-price and patronised by many of the French community. The owner was a total homophobe who would rant about the gay Fan Club massage being just across the soi until it closed some years ago. I believe it is now run by his son, but after one of his rants 6 years or so ago, I vowed not to return.

Thanks. And are there many customers watching the show? My guess is they also thrive on tourists. Expats have seen the shows many times, they can’t be among the majority of customers. Surprised they apparently still manage to make money and pay the dancers.

I love the bars because I like looking. I can find guys on the Apps but it is not as enjoyable for me as a night walking around and looking at GoGo boys. I guess this goes way back to NYC and Montreal and my love for strippers. It has been something I enjoyed for decades. That said, I do think the sex can be just as good with either group. I see the GoGo Bars as slowly fading but don't think they will be gone in the next few years. I think there is still a big market for it in Bangkok and Thailand in general.

This is not just a Thai issue, nor a Covid one. In most (perhaps all?) societies, parents are expected to provide for their children and failure to do so is seen as shameful. In Islamic societies, it is primarily the father's duty, perhaps in Buddhist societies- women do much of the selling- it's a more shared responsibility . When I was in Palestine a few years ago I came across a dad in Gaza, where food was scarce and unemployment rife, who hanged himself when he saw his two children rooting in a bin for a discarded rotten orange. He saw this as his failure as a father and a man..