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I have insomnia, so I figured I would give you all the update on Salvador. I flew from Rio to Salvador with LATAM for about $60, booking the ticket five days in advance. I stayed for a little more than two weeks. I stayed in Barra, Rio Vermelho, and Caminho das arvores. Barra was the best location, with bars and restaurants everywhere. CDA was also a good area for food, but it’s not close to anything. RV is a beach neighborhood and has good food as well. I visited five saunas while in Salvador, 4 with made for GP, and one not. All five had GP working. I first went to Club 11, which was by far the only sauna worth going to. While I was there, I made good friends with some of the drag queens. One DQ in particular, I hung out with a lot during my trip. He owns a modeling agency and opened the gate to an entirely different Salvador than what the sauna could offer. I was invited to one of their shoots, where I met some of the most beautiful black men and women around! I came out of that making many good friends. My friend asked me what guys I was interested in, and he made his magic. He was in no way a pimp, but he just enjoyed knowing I was having a good time. We have become good friends, and unlike ppl from SP or Rio, he never asked me for anything. Like I said, Club 11 was the only one worth going to. The club is the most excellent and cleanest of the clubs I went to. All the guys would be considered black in the USA. 60% was a lighter shade, 40% darker. The cost of a program is 80r in house and 150r overnight. I never had anyone ask for more on my overnight offer. All the boys I would consider the “boy next door” type. The guys avg age was prob 20-23, which feels must younger than Rio and def feel younger than SP. I would say about 3/15 guys worked out regularly, but none were overly muscular. All the guys sell! It’s nothing like SP, where you have to introduce yourself to a GP. I don’t like how laid back the GP are at Lagoa; it’s the opposite in Salvador. I love the staff at 11 and the boys. Signus, this sauna is around the corner from the street with all the gay clubs. I went on bingo night when “The Queen of the gays” hosted. It’s a blue house that has a bar, stage, outdoor shower, and rooms. Programs here are 50r. Nothing nice about this place, but the drinks were STRONG and CHEAP! There were a few boys there, but none were my type. I was told that before COVID, the house would be full of guys! Fox, I went here 3 times, and each time it was empty. With no more than 4-5 GP and 4-5 customers. Uber is extremely cheap, so it would cost less than $5 going between clubs despite their distance. 13, this club was also empty. 4 GP and 5 customers. None of the guys were my type. The boys did not get naked and everyone wore a mask. I only went here once. Once we left the club we went to the beach down the street. The beach was LIT! It had many young gays outside drinking and having a good time. I was taken in as the token black American. I was repeatedly told this is NOT something a gringo should do alone but I a was with a friend and felt extremely safe. Side note black people in Salvador are very similar to black ppl in the American south. We feel the same way about white people (really white supremacy) and the police. I didn’t need a translator to find out that we all shared similar views. Vidas negras importam was a heavy theme! I was happy to be their proxy for the movement. Sharing pictures of protest in Atl they were extremely proud of what is happening in the USA. infinit hotel sauna, I would compare this to a more traditional sauna like the ones you would find in SP. It was a hotel with a small club and gym on the bottom level. Two floors of rooms and a club on the top floor. There weren’t many people at the sauna. I was told this is also due to Covid. We only stayed for a little more than a hour then left for 11. I ended up hanging out with the friends I made most of the time. Half the beaches were open so that’s where we would go. I would provide the weed and drinks and we would just chill. At the end of the day I would go to the sauna and they would go home. I ended up going to the favelas with them which are very different than in Rio. They don’t stack high up and they are much more accessible. I would only hang out in the favela for a day, the guys liked coming to my apartment much more. I'm sure I’m forgetting a ton because of the time. But to wrap it up Salvador quickly became home to me. So much so that I plan on going back in November. Since visiting I don’t feel the need to go back to Rio and I definitely don’t feel the need to ever go back to SP.

Wow @SolaceSoul completely agree with you. And thank you for your contribution! When my friends went to Ghana last year they all said it felt like “home” that’s how I felt in Salvador. I’m so great full to you @Badboy81@Latbear4blk Tom from 117 and anyone else who has provided information about Salvador. It convinced me to go and experience what has to date been my favorite place in the world. As @brockmiller can attest I am unapologetically and sometimes uncomfortably black. I don’t mind asking and discussing uncomfortable topics when it comes to blackness. And in Salvador every Uber driver, waiter, or anyone I came into contact with that spoke English wanted to discuss the black awakening that is happening all over the world. It was truly magical.

This sauna very recently changed its named from Termas Olympus (maybe because of new ownership or new management), which has been around for years. Believe it or not, it has actually gone through a renovation / visual improvement, but in terms of garotos, it’s always been very hit or miss. And every time you go there, the staff will tell you that it just happens to be slow at that time, but it is better later or on another night. Unsurprisingly, it never gets much better! But it sometimes on rare occasions can offer a good diversion, if you happen to be in the area (Tuiuti). This is most likely due to the COVID pandemic. Sauna Fox is usually busier and just as if not more lively than Clube 11, and that was the case during my last visit last year. Because they are on opposite ends of the peninsula, the two saunas tend to get two different neighborhoods of garotos and clients. I rarely see the same garotos at both 11 and Fox. But then again, in Salvador as in all parts of the Bahia and Northeast Brazil, the economy is comparably worse and businesses can often change or close at the drop of a hat. A few years ago, there was a sauna called Persona 12 that had the most beautiful men from the region. A year later, it was dead. A year later, it was closed. Same thing with many neighborhood gay clubs, bars and restaurants. During the pandemic, I’d expect this to worsen. As another black person in the USA who discovered for himself the beauty, history and kinship of Salvador and the Bahia over a decade ago (it was the first place in Brazil I ever visited) beyond just the sex tourism, I am genuinely very glad to read this part of your report. You’ve learned for yourself why an increasing number of black Americans (and just from the American South) have fallen in love with Salvador da Bahia and either are moving there permanently or consider it their second home. Salvador is actually the most African place in the world outside of the continent of Africa, and people of African descent from all over the world feel spiritually connected to the city, the Bahian state and its inhabitants. And yes, there ARE definitely things you can learn and experience there as a black person that non-black folks just won’t be able to even if they try to co-opt or colonize. I would move there in a heartbeat if there were work for me in my field (there is not much at all, unfortunately). Liberdade is an amazing comunidade (favela). If you’re invited by a favela resident, you can be welcomed into their parties and even their homes with open arms. What Salvador lacks in public LGBTQ bars and parties, it makes up for in comunidade and favela watering holes, parties and gatherings.

I can't care less but if I was person in question I'd be mightily upset. Even long time visitors have their plans and such abrupt delay coupled with lousy explanation may leave bitter taste. I think it's wise to wait out all those 'special ' treatments and travel when regular regime will be back in force. Only hope is that they learn not to invent wheel again but oil one already existing while putting it back to careful use i.e. let fucking tourists in, one by one or plane load by plane load and see what happened. When they opened schools where I live 1 month ago there were prophesies of incoming Armageddon and pupils dying like flies. 1 month later , with few glitches here and there it seem to be almost normal with school buses blocking streets all the same like in glory pre-virus days.

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When I came across the fax machine quote from the spokesperson for the Thai National Shippers’ Council, it struck me as odd in this day and age. But apparently Thailand has found a niche manufacturing demand for a relatively low-tech product. The machines can be the traditional stand-alone units we're all familiar with from the past of combined into the more widely popular all-in-one machines (phone, fax, printer and copy). Came across a site that addressed the issue with 16 reasons people still prefer the "fax" feature. Three of the reasons seemed to carry the most weight, particularly the first where web security is becoming an increasingly critical factor. It can be isolated from the internet Confirmation pages (proof of message receipt) – the most import reason. Japanese, Chinese, and Korean characters are often written

Talk aobut shooting yourself in the foot. This is really going to help Thai tourism recover once Chinese social media goes to town on this. Madness!

Hi BT members! Just here to drop a review of my most recent trip to SDQ. After testing positive for Covid a few months back I’ve had the itch it get back to traveling. So When DR opened its borders, I booked my flight shortly after. The AA flight coming in was 100% to capacity, it seemed like tourist and family were excited about getting back to DR. I stayed in an Air B&B per usual as they have no issue with guest. My first night I contacted Christian who hooked me up with a couple new guys. Two tall slim dark skinned guys, they were entertaining and ended up staying the night. Christian’s guys are overall pretty decent. Sure there are some bad apples but overall they are decent quality. The Conde where many gringos go to find locals was not too active. I hung out everyday at Pacos with friends and you could find some trade but for the most part it was dead. For most of my trip everything closed down by 9. This lead to the Parks malecon being lively. I did find two Haitian guys outside Paco’s I decided to spend some time with. Both were entertaining and did everything that was agreed upon. I tend to find that the Haitian guys are much easier and less drama than the Dominicans. My second night Manny introduced me to “16” as he has been called in this forum. I can co-sign that everything said is true. He a truly a great companion, we spent hours together and he never asked for anything more than what was agreed on. He also is great for a cuddle! He loves to sit around and watch Netflix naked after a great session. I truly enjoyed our many sessions together and I can finally say Manny’s very high finders fee was worth it. On Sunday a group of Americans I know were in town for a friend’s birthday party that was hosted by Narcissco. I was a bit disappointed by the quality of the boys. There were about 10-15 at that house for the party but only 1 or 2 were up to my standard. Others were very entertained by the quality of the boys but I was not. On Monday the Government has called for another state of emergency with a 7pm curfew starting Tuesday. That means you had to have EVERYTHING done and be inside by 7pm. It wasn’t something I was looking forward to. But due to curfew coming into effect, Monday night there was a huge party at the gay park! So much fun! The loud Americans that are so hated in this group are surly loved in the DR by both local gays and bugarons. Mostly everyone I knew in SDQ changed their flight and left early. I decided to stay one more day and make a party out of the curfew. Overall traveling with under the current pandemic is definitely different. Mask are used at a much higher rate in DR than most places in the south and even before the curfew things closed very early. If you are planning on going anytime soon I would suggest you wait until September when the state of emergency ends. On a last note, this trip really reminded me how much I love Brazil! I can’t wait to get back and visit Salvador as soon as the border opens back up! Not sure if I will be spending much more money in SDQ after comparing the two.

Believe it or not, I'm not the most verbose guy around. I'm citing two articles that are both very long, and very well written. The first is Ezra Klein on why it makes sense to get rid of the filibuster. The definitive case for ending the filibuster Every argument for the filibuster, considered and debunked. By Ezra Klein I can make the argument in one sentence. Getting rid of the filibuster is the only way President Biden can succeed. Period. That's assuming he has a Senate Democratic majority, which is looking more likely by the day. But he won't have 60 votes. If McConnell has the opportunity to replay 2010 to 2016, he's already said he will. His obstructionism is likely part of what cost Hillary the election in 2016, I think. It kept Obama from being able to get important things done in his second term. Had he been able to enact laws on immigration reform, climate change, etc., it would have helped Hillary make the case for a "third term", according to Lichtman's keys. I agree. I think Americans know this. They are seeing McConnell right now prioritize getting a right-wing SCOTUS majority over a pandemic relief bill. So Republicans lost the Presidential election by millions of votes. And their Senate majority rests on the idea that fewer than 1 million people in Wyoming can overrule 40 million people in California. Democrats have to become increasingly clear that the only reason for Mitch McConnell to have power is to block what most Americans want. And do things most Americans don't want - like fill that court vacancy as quickly as they can, before they lose power. That's not democracy. This second article is a long profile piece on Elissa Slotkin, one of the moderate Democrats who won a House seat in a Trump district in Michigan in 2018. It looks like she's likely to be re-elected in 2020. I think it's a good companion piece to Klein's article. Slotkin is a good example of what happens when you are obsessed with listening to moderate and relatively affluent Republicans - especially the female type. This article perhaps speaks to what you worry about when Democrats are being too kind to suburban women, @tassojunior. To me, it's a story about what Democrats have to do if they are going to be smart about getting power and keeping it. It is baked into the cake that if Democrats don't have Elissa Slotkin, we don't have a majority. And if Slotkin ignores liberal to moderate Republican members of her district, she's history. Has Elissa Slotkin Detected Early Hints of a Biden Blowout? I liked the political system I experienced in the 80's and 90's when I was lobbying as a consumer activist in the US Congress and Oregon Legislature. It was built on the idea of having to get both parties to go along, somehow, in order to get things done. I could actually see it start to evaporate in the 90's in Oregon. Liberal suburban Republican state legislators were taken out in primaries by right wingers. Conservative Democrats from Eastern Oregon were replaced by Republicans. Everything became more polarized. I think Rahm Emanuel is right. Democrats need to be very good at building metropolitan alliances between cities and suburbs. That is at the core of why Nancy Pelosi became speaker again in 2018. It is also what allow Democrats to get rid of the filibuster in the Senate and prevail. Poor Doug Jones will almost certainly lose in Alabama. And states like Montana and Iowa may mostly be off limits, because they are overwhelmingly White and not very urban. We'll see how many White voters without college degrees return to Biden this November. But they look increasingly likely to form the base of the Republican Party, not the Democratic one. 2020 Demographic Swingometer That's a fun toy from the Cook Political Report that makes my point. It shows the impact of Democrats increasing or decreasing their base among certain groups of voters. What it shows is that Biden would be ahead for 304 electoral votes right now, if you simply adjusted the 2016 results for demographic changes in the last four years. Note that in 2016 President Toxic got 69 % of the White non-college vote. The last Democrat to split the votes of Whites without college degrees was Bill Clinton, who did it in both 1992 and 1996. Right now, according to RCP, Biden is actually leading in states with 374 electoral votes. That's because he has won back at least some of those non-college Whites. If you shift the percentage of White non-college voters Democrats get from 31 % in 2016 to 35 % in 2020, you just picked up North Carolina, Georgia, and Arizona - all states which Biden looks like he may win. It still doesn't get you Ohio or Iowa, where Whites without college degrees dominate. If you increase the percentage of White college graduates Democrats get from 54 % to 59 %, you also just picked up Ohio and Texas. That would get Biden a landslide 406 electoral votes. I actually think something like this is a realistic best case scenario right now. Increasing Black turnout has far less significant an impact. If you increase Black turnout from 57 % in 2016 to 65 % in 2020, it wins you one more state: Georgia. Same with Hispanics. If you increase turnout from the 45 % in 2016 to 55 % in 2020, you pick up one more state: Arizona. If Democrats like Slotkin do a good job of listening to the voters in the middle, who are mostly White, Democrats have a decent shot at getting rid of the filibuster without pulling the party so far to the left that they get shellacked in the 2022 midterms.

Perhaps Pence should have practicied responding within the time he had. It was insulting to the moderator, Susan Page. But, I assume Pence pleased Trump.

It depends on the country. But it’s really a numbers game. I can send 50 messages if 5 hit then I did well. But usually I target “models”. I will go to an agency I like, message the models I'm interested in most don’t reply but some do. I really find success in the tagged photos. Many amateurs who seem very open to meeting an American. I’ll go to their page like 10+ pics and then I’ll send them a message saying how handsome they are and I request to meet them. I’ve come into contact with GP but also regular guys who would love an boyfriend with American dollars. In the messages I send out I tell them to feel free to block me if not interested. Yesterday I both got blocked and got a WhatsApp number. For me it’s a numbers game.

From Khaosod English Protesters To Seize Democracy Monument, Tell Prayut to Quit BANGKOK — Pro-democracy activists on Thursday announced their demands for a protest scheduled to take place at the iconic Democracy Monument on Oct. 14, the anniversary of the student uprising against military rule in 1973. At a news conference held at Sanam Luang, the site of the previous rally held on the weekend of Sept. 19 and Sept. 20, the protest leaders demanded resignation of PM Prayut Chan-o-cha and his “cronies,” a special parliamentary session on charter amendments, and reforms of the monarchy. “We will bring Thailand back under democracy and return power to the people,” activist Panupong Jadnok said. The new set of demands are meant to unite all pro-democracy movements under the umbrella of the “People’s Party 2020,” a reference to a clique of military officers and civilians who toppled absolute monarchy in 1932 and established parliamentary rule. “The People’s Party hasn’t gone anywhere,” Panupong said. “They’re in the hearts of all democracy-loving citizens.” Today’s press conference at the Sanam Luang was also attended by leader of the Free People Movement Tattep Ruangprapaikitseree, Laponpat Wangpaisit of the Bad Student network, and Jatupat Boonpattararaksa of community rights advocacy group Dao Din. The group urged the protesters to gather from 2pm onwards on Oct. 14 at the Democracy Monument, where the campaigners will “seize the monument back for the people” as the first activity for the day, according to co-leader Arnon Nampa. Democracy Monument was built in 1939 to commemorate the revolt that overthrew the royal government six years prior. Originally designed as a public space, security officers in recent years barricaded the monument and turned it into a garden sealed off from the public, possibly to deter anti-government protests from taking place there.

From The Nation Thai exporters are upbeat about business prospects, citing gradual increase in demand, but they are worried about the baht strengthening as well as the shortage of migrant workers. The Thai National Shippers’ Council (TNSC) has revised upward its export projection this year to 8 per cent contraction from 10 per cent contraction previously forecast, says Ghanyapad Tantipipatpong, the council chairman. Products in demand include rubber gloves, washing machines, fax machines, telephones and parts, and gold, she noted. The baht remains strong and can be an obstacle for exports, as it makes Thai products more expensive than products of competitors. The baht should stay at around Bt34 per dollar, down from the current Bt31 level, or it must move along with regional currencies, she said. A shortage of migrant workers is also adversely affecting businesses, she complained. The rise of logistics cost, including freight cost, is also a cause for concern, she pointed out.

Thai absurdity at its best - again But this article provides a better explanation than the ridiculous "haven't worked out all details" excuse: https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2020/10/08/pandemic-tourist-visas-shelved-in-favor-of-local-vacationers/

Really?

I like that idea. So I guess I could say I threw away an old pair last month. A weird coincidence, my favorite poster over there also decided to quit about the same time I did. I know a lot of guys go back, but not sure if I ever will.

"Hitting the gym" at 80 is a good thing. I hope and pray my body will keep up. RGB and her trainer inspired many. Plus, a gym is a great place to see many naked male bodies. It's often worth the price of admission. There are a lot of younger guys who enjoy playing with older men, especially when the older men appear to be fit and care about their health. Caring about your health can be a sexual turn-on, even if it's just a perception.

I had an elderly American friend who found himself in a similar situation and ended up fleeing from Pattaya to Bangkok. The problem was again unfulfilled expectations. Some of the guys invest inordinate hopes in what they may believe- perhaps from the singular experiences of a friend- is a long-term relationship. They make plans, tell their friends and maybe in some cases perhaps even their family, that they "have a falang" and, accordingly, financial problems are at an end. Then comes loss of face, with inevitable consequences. One of P's oldest friends was in a ten-year relationship with a falang ex-pat in Pattaya. Both were working. One day, he came home to find the falang had disappeared, taking with him all his possessions. No note of explanation, nor even a goodbye. Thai/falang relationships are not easy, even when both parties are on the same continent; both take risks, both can be hurt. I don't blame anyone who prefers to stick to short-times. I have to admit that my sixteen year relationship has sometimes been a deeply emotional strain.... on both sides!

Like z909 I’ve had very few significant problems with Asian rent boys over the almost 20 years of visits to Thailand. One however sticks in my mind of a Pattaya boy I had slept with during several consecutive trips and who had started to regard me as his daddy. On this occasion I had offed him 3 nights in a row but had wanted a change so had told him I wouldn’t be coming to his bar that night. Instead I went online for a bed companion. About midnight there was a loud bangIng on my hotel room door - it was him with a friend demanding to know why I had not turned up and that he had missed off opportunities. Things looked threatening so I told the online boy to go giving him the LT rate. Thankfully the guy on reception came because of the noise. He advised me to pay my “boyfriend” some money which I did and they left still shouting. I was shocked and worried that I would be on the receiving end of a Thai vendetta. At 5 am I checked out and took a taxi to Bkk Where I remained for the rest of my trip (the reception guy said that this was a good move).

That news makes it much more likely that this man is going to end up spending two years in a Thai jail, paying a hefty fine, and then getting deported back to the USA. And with all the gun nuts in the USA he'll fit right in . . .

I like this new lad! Sexy!

originally posted here: https://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2020/10/brazil-sep2020-gay-activities.html boytoy forum software inserts multiple link to twitter where there is only one in the original, I didn't find an easy way to fix this Brazil Sep2020 Gay activities There is a well-developed gay scene (both free and paid; bars, discos, saunas, online; only gogo bars and dedicated massage is missing) and a large range of body shapes and skin colors available in Brazil. But if you are looking for someone with no body hair, it’s not the place to go. If you are looking for big cock, it’s the place to go. Everything (online chat, boys from online to my room, encounters in sauna, activities in my room) could have happened the same way in Thailand (just exchange sauna with moneyboys in Brazil with gogo or host bar in Thailand). “Boy” refers to any sexually desirable male over the age of consent. Discos closed due to covid. Some encounters online (from online dating apps; there are dedicated websites for moneyboys but I didn’t delve into this area), most of this post will be about saunas. General differences to saunas in Thailand (and everywhere else in SEAsia I have been in gay saunas: Cambodia, Vietnam, Taiwan). Entrance fee (and anything you consumed during your stay charged to your locker number) is paid on leaving. Some saunas in Brazil have money boys. Those money boys charge for 30 minutes, and private rooms in the sauna are rented out in multiples of 30 minutes? And boy wants extra if he cums? (So I read in boytoy forum, no personal experience.) This is something I don’t like (I can’t work under time pressure, and if a money boy in SEAsia told me he has only one hour, I would say goodbye to him). But the rooms look nicer than rooms in SEAsia. All gay saunas had signs reminding people to wear a mask. All of the staff wore masks, but most customers and boys didn’t. I read everywhere that grindr is the most popular gay dating app and installed in on my phone for my trip to Brazil. However, my two encounters were from gayromeo and hornet. Low activity on blued. Thu10sep2020 SP Espaço Lagoa Entry 50, milkshake 15. Stay 18:10-19:38. The place is busy with about 25 people in the bar and over 50 in the entire premises. Two towels of good quality and flip-flops. The showers have a glass wall to the bar. I never showered in front of an audience of 25 people. (Joking; nobody paid notice to me in the shower.) During a stroll through the sauna, and later when boys shower, the biggest dicks I have seen! One boy looks cute and face and body remind me of a boy Max who was in Pattaya (last seen in 2015). But he has hair on his abdomen, no way. He notices my interest and approaches me, but no English. Same for another boy who approaches me. Meet forum member bcdaron for a chat at the bar. The acoustics is poor, there is a lot of noise, and when they start karaoke, it becomes a cacophony, unbearable for me, and we leave. Last round through the sauna, I spot a boy in the smoking room. Promising enough for me to enter the smoking room (I don’t smoke and don’t like the smell). The boy has brown skin and is slim, and a big, soft or half-hard, dick that he is stroking in one hand, and his mobile phone in the other. I can’t spot body hair on upper thighs or abdomen. No tattoos. All very enticing! But he appears utterly bored, and I don’t think that would change if I hired him to go to a room. He obviously does not understand English (we were talking about him within hearing distance) and face very average (“pull a bag over his face”, was bcdaron’s suggestion), and in sitting posture I cannot fully assess his body. Fri11sep2020 Gabriel, 269 Chilli Pepper, Upgrade Club I had chatted with a boy Gabriel on gayromeo, then whatsapp. Pale skin, but that can be mended by low light. He is looking for something serious, I’m looking for holiday fun, don’t know how we can reconcile that. Anyway, one appointment passed, no show or message. Second appointment passed, no show or message. I give up. 269 Chilli Pepper (gay sauna and hotel). Arrive 19:15. Entry only with ID (I knew and brought my German ID card), temperature check, weapons check. Cashier speaks English, but you can’t see him. Entry 79 BRL for single room (small room with a safe and a bed, can stay up to 6 hours). Lift for three floors. Flip-flops sorted by size. Free condoms. Steam room in operation. Bar. Two computers (where I spend part of my time reading boytoy). Customers in underwear or towel. No money boys. About 100 customers, one shapely. Everywhere too dark for my taste. One of the largest gay saunas I have been to, larger than Babylon or Farose II in Bangkok, and comparable to "Soi 13 in" and "Aniki WoW" (World of Wonders) in Taipei. I find the highest locker number is 775. But that does not mean they have 775 locker, count starts at 400, that makes 375 lockers. Highest room number is 343, but that does not mean they have 343 room. On first floor room 101-146, second floor 201-244, third floor 301-343, making a total of 140 rooms. Note to myself for future sauna reviews: no way for me to find out area or space the sauna occupies, but I can count lockers and rooms and sort saunas by number of lockers or rooms! Leave 20:40. Upon paying I get a full receipt, but that is retained by security. Walk to Upgrade Club and almost miss it. I found the house number, but there were no signs. In hindsight, light shining through gap in door frame and music (when you listen for music, else you won’t notice it) should have given a clue. But another person rings the bell and the door open, so I get in with him. Entrance to Upgrade Club at daytime. Ring the bell at door 198. Entry 35 BRL, stay 20:52-21:18. I thought it’s a disco and I’m early (this was just meant to be a recce), but it’s a sex club and they will close 22:00 and I’m late. One of their staff speaks English and gives me a tour (advises me to keep my shoes to – they don’t provide flip-flops and there will be cum on the floor). Free condoms, no money boys. There is a bathtub and written on the wall behind “Mictorium”. (Does that just mean "pissoir" or for those who like to pee on someone or get peed on? Pee-er and Pee-ee? Not my area of interest, but out of curiosity I would have a look when it’s active.) About 10 customers. One shapely (but cold wet skin) fucks another in the sling. There are four slings and a dungeon/cage. And a steel bridge where you can walk over the area where activities take place, and look down on them. The staff who speaks English tells me that they close soon, but on Sunday there will be a show with gogo boys, followed by an orgy, with expected 200 customers, starting 4 pm. Exactly what the doctor ordered to get over my Can’t-get-to-Thailand depression! Sat12sep2020 Espaço Lagoa During touristic walk in town spot several shapely food delivery boys on bicycle. I could develop a fetish for those! Ask receptionist to call “The Week” (largest gay disco in the world, only on Saturday): nobody picks up, and I assume it’s closed for Corona. Sauna Labirunttu's Club (Rua Frei Caneca, 328) permanently closed. Espaço Lagoa entry 65 BRL, stay 20:10-22:44. Meet bcdaron at bar and spot someone else who looks vaguely familiar, and he seems to recognize me. It’s numazu1 whom I meet in passing years ago in Bangkok! He introduces me to the one boy Wallace I consider having business with. Shapely and skin temperature okay, but crab ladder and I prefer darker skin. My tolerance to body hair is low. This is a boy I met in Bangkok, and that's the maximum I can bear: Bar is full during show. Gogo dancing and ladyboy lipsync, just like in Thailand! From 22 (closing time) emptying. Sun13sep2020 Upgrade Club, Wild Thermas Check on googlemaps, 4 pm is opening time, and I don’t think they start the show right away. Arrive 16:30 and pay 35 BRL entry. About 10 other customers, more coming, over 50 when I leave. And they are not there to stand around and look, all the slings are occupied, and others find other positions to fuck or suck. I haven’t seen anything like this before! But no shapely, too dark, music too loud, artificial fog, I couldn’t have meaningful sex under these conditions. No point waiting for show. When I leave 18:51 (spent most of the time reading on my phone), a queue of 9 waiting to get in. Walk to Wild Thermas. Entry 40 BRL, stay 19:20-50. Flip-flops and towel provided. About 50 customers. One shapely and cute, skin temperature okay, but not interested. Sauna and steam room lukewarm. Upstairs all nude, but too dark. Mon14sep2020 Lion from hornet in Sao Paulo Chat with Lion on hornet, then whatsapp. He will be free at night, then specify 10 pm. That means I can’t go anywhere else before (I don’t like to rush in case he is free earlier) or after (too late for me, and anyway everywhere closed). My messages 9:54 and 10:17 not read, but finally 10:38 reply, he is on his way. He asks for my room number, then receptionist calls me that double occupancy will be 50 BRL more, which I will pay next morning. Then finally 10:50 we meet at elevator on my floor. Some chat with google translate, then to bed. Good attitude and activities, but a bit too hairy for my taste. Afterwards no signs of him leaving. I sleep better alone, safety concerns, logistical concerns (I have a bus to Rio at 10 am). How to approach this issue? (google translate, from memory) CPFC: “How far is it to your place? Can you get home now?” Lion: “I thought I can stay over night. Can I?” It would be unfair to throw him out, so I let him stay over night. Poor sleep. Wake up 6 am. His alarm 7 am, my alarm 7:30, bye 8:00 without any delays (I had Thai boys block my bathroom for long time or otherwise delay or completely screw up my plans), doesn’t even want to join for breakfast. I had all my valuables locked, that means I couldn’t charge my phone over night and start the day with 40% battery. Goodbye, check-out and bus to Rio all fine. Tue15sep2020 Point 117 in Rio de Janeiro Rob had messaged me on gayromeo. He is not my type, but good English and works as tourist guide, so maybe we can get into business. He suggests we meet at Point 117 (i.e. I pay entry for him). Point 117, entry 61 BRL per person, stay 19:58-21:50. Entry includes use of room. Rob is indeed well known by staff and boy and tells me boys might ask an unknown foreign customer for 200 BRL, but in his company I can get boy for 100. And there is a Black who is very tempting (slim muscular, nice dick*, perfect warm and dry skin, offers to go with me for 100, but full beard and I can’t see if there is more hair elsewhere – facial hair is no problem for me, but it is an indicator for hair elsewhere where it is a problem for me). *about 6 inches limp, perfect size and shape (parabolic; or like a banana pointing down, for non-scientists) But I want to have a look at the show first. Show starts 21:10. Ladyboy lipsync, gogo boy from fully dressed to nude. Nothing of interest to me, but what did I expect? I should have known better. Now I can say these shows are the same worldwide. I made up my mind to go with the Black, and 5 minutes ago I still saw him around, but now he is gone (and so are most boys and customers after show). Wed16sep2020 boys at Sugarloaf beach, Henrique A shapely boy, shirtless and no mask, is playing ball game with friends. When they stand around and I walk past, one of them talks to me, but the only word I understand is “gay”, and I reply that I like boys. They make some (indecent or inviting?) gestures and invite me (or ask me to invite them?) for a meal and show me a menu (or they work serving food at the beach?). I wonder how they got the idea I might be gay. I was wearing face mask and hat. Do I look that gay, even with face mask or hat, or was my interest in the boy that obvious? But for lack of common language, and lack of somewhere to go, and lack of knowledge of local customs, I make an excuse and continue my sightseeing. But someone with better people skill could have made something interesting out of this encounter. A boy Henrique from gayromeo speaks good English and we have been chatting for over a week. I ignored two requests for money, but now the third request I offer 100, he asks for 150, I repeat my offer of 100, he accepts. For prices see here and following posts: Sidenote hedgehog jokes: How do hedgehogs reproduce? Very, very carefully! Errare humanum est, said the hedgehog and got off the toilet brush. We have a so-so time in bed (I’m not horny with body hair, and he is not enthusiastic either). Invite him for dinner afterwards, pleasant company and interesting conversation. Sat19sep2020 Sauna Copacabana, Point 202 Entry 60 BRL, stay 17:54-18:55. About 10 customers, among them one slim brown big cock Indian looking, but hairy and not interested anyway. 4 massage boy/men, one of them Black slim and no hair on lower arms and leg, but can’t see more of him (shorts, shirt, face mask). Two red towels of good quality, sauna, steam room, herbal steam can sit 10 each. Continue to Point 202. High expectations when walking up their staircase (two floors from road). Entry 70 BRL, stay 19:14-21:30. About 10 customers and about 10 boys (in towel). Two Blacks approach me, but no my type. A third would be worth a closer look, but moving around, then gone. Nobody on 2nd and 3rd floor. Another customer chats me up and turns out to be a forum member. Interesting conversation over Brazil and Thailand. Show schedule 21, real 21:20. Ladyboy lipsynch, leave soon. Mon21sep2020 Point 117 Hiking on a rock on a beach far away from touristy areas, I come across a group of youth (boys and girls) in swimmwear, and they all show interest in me, but none of them speaks English. That serves just to show how poor English language skills are, and how easy it is to get in contact with locals, but to make more of it, you would have to speak Portuguese. Entry 50 BRL includes drink at bar. Stay 19:47-20:42. Try to rectify my mistake (not going with the Black) from last week, but the boy was not in. About 10 customers and 10 boys during my stay. Steam room hot, can sit 10. Leave when show starts. Light rain in the evening; decide against going to Lion’s club. Summary I regret not going with the boy in Lagoa or in Point117. Not speaking a common language and not knowing local customs and tipping expectations has not prevented me from going to gay massages in Myanmar, which turned out to be a great success. This trip was just scratching at the surface. I’m not a disco-goer, but I would have gone to get an idea, but they were all (?) closed for covid. If saunas had been busier, I would certainly have found someone to my taste and taken him to a room. I didn’t even dip into the large online gay4pay scene. The internet gives an idea what could be available: https://www.cams.reviews/flirt4free/dan-smit https://www.boytoyflirt.com/?model=dan-smit (works only when he is online?) from: Josh Megans https://nakedgirlslive.com/latino/ Neymar junior from: The young Taylor Lautner (not Brazilian, but his looks when young would fit perfectly) General observations Advertising for lady prostitutes, accepting credit card: Underwear in 25 Marco markets in Sao Paulo. Boys in sauna were mostly in towel (for easy access), those in underwear mostly trunks. I like briefs more. I saw slim boys, cute as far as I could judge with face mask, who had little hair on lower arms and lower thighs. Extrapolating everything I saw, there must be a cute slim brown no body hair English speaking gay twink with big cock hiding somewhere in Brazil, and I will return some day to find him and to visit gay venues that were closed during this trip or had low number of customers. I reference to Blacks a few times in this post. I have a sexual interest in Blacks and would go to Africa if there was an organized gay scene somewhere. But everything I read and hear is at best disappointing, at worst scam. Copyright 2020 ChristianPFC except linked pictures

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So happy you are covid free, my friend...I'm also proud that you have the courage to travel. This ISH has me so afraid and my husband told me, "bitch if you go over there YOU CANT COME BACK HERE...LOL!! Glad you had fun, but comparing GIG to SDQ is like comparing apples to oranges. In my slutty opinion there is absolutely no comparison. The supply of sex and hot guys in GIG far surpasses the amount you can find in SDQ. I think, and I could be wrong, the reason a lot of ppl from the states fly to SDQ as opposed to GIG is because of the time spent traveling. I mean, we can leave MIA for SDQ on a Friday, get there in 1.5 hours and fuck non stop until sunday and by sunday my boy-box has had all the pounding it can take. GIG is a much longer flight and when we travel there, we stay no less than 7 days. It's insane to fly all that distance for a weekend trip. SDQ is great for 3 days, I feel, but could be wrong. Some people can probably stay a lot longer. I told my husband the last few times we had gone that Manny was a lifesaver. He speaks both english and spanish. Hes friendly and if you tell him what you want, he will get you what you want. Walking EL CONDE doesn't always yield results. It is hit or miss because a lot of the guys who sell sex live far far away. Manny takes all the leg work out of trying to find a guy and vetting the guy. His fee is well worth it if you ask me. I'd gladly pay him $25/$30 for each guy he brings us instead of paying $300 for a guy here in the U.S. Who is watching the clock and not fully engaged in the sex act or have a limp dick. Again, I'm so happy that you are covid free. Stay safe and be blessed.