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Yet one can find people that disagree the characters in Giovanni's Room made love, or people that disagree Lysis and Alexias ever made love in Last of the Wine. Was a difficult task getting the point across back in the 50s and 60s, to get that published. Call it what you will. Clever, subtle, deft, and so on.

Where do you think international law is taught? And I mentioned before having a US graduate law degree in international law, diploma in international public law from the Hague Academy, certificates from Paris 2 (Sorbonne) and Brussels in civil and EU law, and plenty of that included "foreign policy". None of which matters because realizing the US as being a military-corporate-welfare state shouldn't take much more education than a person of normal IQ has.

I think he as most great writers was most subtle. At the same time as flaming across the sky as a comet. Like Hemingway, Faulkner, the 19th-century greats, on and on. All the way back to Gawain & Chaucer & before. For many reasons, reader-influencing etc etc etc

lol....Eisenhower is the one who warned us in his farewell speech that during his administration the military-industrial complex had taken over the country and our economy. Today half our discretionary US budget is military corporations and they are careful to manufacture worthless "weapons" they charge the government small fortunes for in every state and Congressional district they can to get pork barrel support. (Elizabeth Warren is a huge military spender because of her state). A big part of the US budget is the F-35 garbage who's fuel supply planes would be shot down by China within minutes rendering them useless. (The expensive weapons systems are mostly garbage solely for pork barrel. The future is low-cost cyber warfare and drones.) Our military production has almost nothing to do with defense and everything to do with keeping our war industry economy going). and btw- The Great Depression dragged on throughout the 30's New Deal and even got worse in '38. The New Deal was mostly social programs to give people money and benefits plus a dam or two. War preparation got everyone working.

Imagine family gatherings of siblings, aunts, uncles and so on, gathered around sharing memories, how those conversations drift. That's part of the nature of conversation. That said, the OP might give some thought to their goal for the thread and be mindful how well their first post might frame the intent of the discussion. If folks decide to go off on a tangent, others might politely reign in the dialogue back on track. Or wave a white flag and move on.

The cornea the better.

Mary wrote that Donald and his first wife were "cheap" with gifts. Underpants only one year. And food gifts with some of better food missing As birthday gifts

No I was referring to general pre-covid use. Surgical masks have been used by operating theatre staff for about a century. Initially it was believed they protected th patients. A photo from the 1930s presently in the Seattle Museum of History and Industry shows all theatre staff wearing masks, as does one from the 1960s. Now there is certainly a degree of debate about the need also to protect theatre staff. But having 4 doctors in my family, I can tell you that my surgeon cousin would never enter an operating theatre without a mask for the protection of him and his patient. The one person who often does not wear a mask nowadays is the anaesthesiologist. I guess the only point I have been trying to make is that in todays covid 19 world, wearing a mask is equally as important for the wearers as those in whose company they find themselves. With two weeks before an infection becomes the illness and the ease with which the virus can be passed during those two weeks, anyone not wearing a mask risks putting a large number of people in hospital. And we now know that this horrible virus can have much longer term consequences for the brain, lungs and other organs.

I went again last night with three farang friends. We all ordered the hamburgers which come with cheese and onions. I totally enjoyed mine and relished every bite. One friend said it was okay but he preferred Arno’s, another said very good and one didn’t like it at all. These guys also gave Arnos hamburgers mixed reviews, while I thought they were excellent.. One commented that the burgers were loose, not well compacted. I solved this with utensils.

The sequel to CMBYN was published 8 months ago but I just read it now. Find Me. It is not in 1st person Elio narration. The 15-year and 20-year epilogues were woven in reasonably well but what seemed a little strange is that Aciman departed from the initial base time frames, ie, summer of love ‘83 (consistent with track song Lady Lady Lady in the film). Unless this was unintentional or missed by editors the only reasons I could think of were to somewhat reference modern mobile phone etiquette (as in one passage) or to bypass the height of the AIDS epidemic. The initial Italian summer was referenced as having been a few decades back from the latest historical time point in the new novel but would essentially have been in the 21st century as opposed to the New Wave era. My sense is that the book cannot be easily coaxed into a screenplay that would have sufficient coherence with its predecessor or the ages of the film actors playing the characters featured in both books.

Threads evolve over time. I doubt many people set out to hijack a thread. More important, people who just join a forum have the exact same statue as those who have posted for decades.

Any recommendations on places to stay? OK with bringing different guys back?

Saw Daddy's main post today was about vote.org which is misguided and unfortunate. They are a private organization that sells your info. https://vote.gov/ Is the correct site. Now IS the time to register, or to request absentee voting! Also, please return your absentee voting ballots SOONER than later! There's going to be an avalanche of ballots which many states won't be prepared for, and the longer the outcome is in doubt the more chance Cheeto Mussolini will have to discredit the election.

Planning trips is fun in itself, and it's always nice to have a trip to look forward to.

That is why I used the Future Tense. By the way, my foreseeable future does reach to July 2021, although considering current news it may be too optimistic.

Just when you thought all the mask discussions were gone for good.