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Yeah. Agree. I think there are lots of scenarios possible, but, personally, I think the relative success of the move to Patpong has shown the basic soundness of the business model, so even if places close temporarily or one or even two don't survive, the scene will return to normal. And some bars, of course, are still doing great business. I was at Lucky Boys the other night and it had a good crowd. People kept coming in during the show and by the end of the show they were smushing customers together to try to make more room to find places for people. A good very mixed crowd - including some locals. Good fun show as always. 18 guys in the "big cock" show - perhaps a sign of the times, with more guys opting for the extra money to participate. One or two of the guys might not have technically qualified for a big cock show, but kudos to them for participating - average, travel-size cocks and all. I do think the way the whole staff of Lucky Boys starts the show by singing and dancing along to YMCA is absolutely brilliant and so joyful. (Maybe they did one verse more than I would have liked.). Sort of like a Club Med or cruise when all the staff sing. And I will hand it to her, the dreaded mammasan Miss Lucy did a great job for the song. Oh, almost forgot. My friend and I couldn't get an exact count, but more than 40, possibly 50 guys in the regular rotation. So that's nice.

Seems to be a good idea. This type of show is rather rare in Rio. I usually travel with a friend who is very fond of Opera and Bel Canto but we never saw something which really appealed to us. I sometimes go to Beco das Garrafas in Copa (Bossa Nova) or Beco do Rato (in front of Lions sauna) for Brasilian music. Live Samba orchestra at Elite was good during Carnaval and Samba in the streets everywhere in Rio during Carnaval was great.

Always bigger cocks in Brazil If you find a guy with a big cock in Brazil, you will always find a guy with a bigger cock. I considered the cock of my regular garoto in 117 was big, certainly a little less big than some others until I compared the 2 cocks in a very hot 3some in 117 ... J's cock on the left below is way much bigger, at the same time longer and much thicker. So I thought J's cock was certainly one of the biggest ... until I compared it with Gusttavo's ... J's looks tiny compared to Gusttavo's ! So I thought that Gustavo's was the biggest, until I compared it to....

Saturday March 7th 17th anniversary of Pointe 202 As usual these parties in Pointe are great. Many boys (including some new faces) and many customers but not many customers going to programa : there was no file for getting a room ! Pedro Dias cute stripper was on show among many others and many many trannies participated to the show. Next birthday in December : Junior birthday party.

As people, regardless if their are local, expats, tourist, men or women, are always horny, the scene will never die. In hard times, it will be survival of the fittest. The popular boys, the popular bars will survive, the not so popular one might not. But silver lining is, the virus scare hit a lot of businesses, not just the sex industry. That would also means some more guys from other industry who got hit by this virus might turn to sex industry as a refuge. Its not like im hoping for this to happen but that is the reality, in hard times, more people will be desperate enough to try things they previously wouldnt even consider. Who knows we can suddenly see some of the gorgeous "guests model" from the many gay events suddenly appear in jupiter or moonlight.

if you left happy I don't think you overtipped him , you just tipped fairly for the experience

Rose's mother from Golden Girls once said ' fear of dying should not stop me from living "

You know, it’s funny. I have ragged on Kessler several times for being long-winded etc. He responded humorously but seriously: he needs space to think as he writes. I get that. He is a serious contributor, without pathology that I can detect. I like & respect him.

I was assuming people who cared had already found out, but just in case, Babylon posted a few days ago that they have closed the "Rest cabins" in Building B. Whatever that means. Recommended workaround is bring guy(s) to your room. Rinse. Repeat.

I thought I'd skip that part 5. The Green Massage (2) So the next day I went there again. The head/neck/shoulder massage great same same like yesterday. I told the masseur to massage a tid softer, what he did. After the 60 minutes we went upstairs and the masseur told me to shower. They have proper rooms with a proper shower and a proper massage table with a hole (although I must say I almost prefer my head thai style on a pillow) He was waiting somewhere outside the room and came back when I almost finished drying myself. I laid down on the massage table and another 90 minutes of heaven began. He started with the back, then legs then arms. When massaging the inner side of the upper legs, he incidentally touched my cock, not often enough to come to any decisive conclusion about the further course of the massage, but often enough to make me slightly aroused. When I turned around I was looking and smiling at him, he was smiling back and said "You like?". That expression was new in his vocabulary, so far he only used "ok?", this must be "English for masseurs, level 2". My answer was of course "yes" with an even bigger smile than before (yes also farangs can smile when the circumstances are favorable...). He continued with the belly and the chest by making big circles with both hands, which I find extremly pleasant and I must have been purring like a cat, and the "incidentally" slowly became an "obviously on purpose". I started rubbing his belly and then put my hand under his shirt and felt his smooth skin. After a while I asked "ok?" and he said "no", so I removed my hand again. Maybe he misunderstood my question, because a minute later he took my hand and put it under his shirt again ... Later he asked "Do you want me to come?". I'm not sure whether I was more suprised by the meaning of the sentence or by his english skills, "English for masseurs, level 3", or is it all covered by "Survival english for masseurs" anyway? Whatever, not in control of my mouth anymore, I answered "yes". He then mentioned quite a high figure and I agreed again. Overpriced for sure, but it is like holding a drug in front of an addict and mentioning any price the addict will say yes... Those guys for sure know how to extract the baht of us farangs but I really can't be mad at them. Later at home I also thought that those guys will probably face difficult times in the next months so it is ok to overtip them. Without going into further details, I must say I left the place very happy and for sure will make a visit there again on my next holiday, which under the current cirmumstances unfortunately is unclear when that will be...

900 people get Coronavirus and the whole world wants to wear a surgical mask, 30 million people have AIDS but still nobody wants to wear a condom

Reluctantly my vote went for cancelling. Numazu has wide and ongoing experience of Bangkok. As I understand his post, he wanted to show his BF Bangkok and participate in Songkran and GCircuit. Well, the GCircuit is not happening, Songkran will be tempered if not closed down as the date draws near to reduce chances of exposure to the virus. So the Bangkok expereince might be a disappointment to Numazu and leave his BF wondering what all the fuss was about. Another concern based on my own planning for a visit is that I cancelled my February trip, have planned a visit in late May instead...BUT am finding that flyng from the wet coast of the US creates complicated travel planning which is subject to alteration by the airlines. I have an internal trip in the US in April flying from SFO to Washington DC booked on United (whose miles Numazu is using for his trip). At least once a week, United informs me that my flights have been changed to another time /airport. When I look for a booking for the May / June period almost every flight involves flying though Japan, Hong Kong, Korea, or Taiwan. Each of which might raise an eyebrow or two at immigration in Bangkok, not to mention in the US when I return. I have, I suppose, the option of flying to the east coast of the US and flying via the Middle East or taking Singapore airlines or Qantas...all these options add extra hours which Hank75 points out means more time cooped up with the paranoid sanitizing seats, tray tables, screens, and one another. It's a quandary... I know I'll get back to Thailand but don't know when, just that I will. I also know that Numazu will go back to Thailand, but for his BF, well the full-on Numazu in Thailand experience is something to behold...but next month all of the piece may not be there. Numazu, let me/us know what you decide. If it is a "go", I'd be interested in the routing.

I guess I'm not surprised that a thread attempting to "Avoid the DaddyHate" would eventually spiral into the very thing the OP was trying to avoid. But in all fairness, SexyAsianStud did name a few names, so why wouldn't some of the old, bitter geezers follow. I think I prefer more posts on sexy man buns, both of the hair and glute type. It is very easy to ignore anyone if you put your lazy mind to it. A little discipline goes a long way to a healthier life. I guess now you've decided it's time to bash Steven Kesslar, a well known escort who contributes to both boards. How charming and productive. Good for the future of this board, too. Thank you for gracing us with your presence, WilliamM. If I owned an escort board, I would take the charm, humor (often self-effacing), and intelligence of ten Steven Kesslers any day over some of the lame hypocrites who are addicted to posting personal hate vents on escort boards. At least with Steven, you know where you stand. The queen HYPOCRITE speaks. How many blood-stained knives from backs she has stabbed does she proudly display in her kitchen collection? Who cares whom she likes or respects when she's spit and shit on her own credibility countless times. Sometimes this board is worse than RuPaul's Drag Race, which is pretty cheap and cliché these days. But I'm happy to give SexyAsianStud's thread a few more views.

You must go @Riobard. Sondra Radvanovsky is a compelling singer with a superlative voice. I’ve heard her sing in recital in Spain and the US.

Do you get to the theatre, @pauleiro ? Been frequently, never disappointed ... thinking of trying to catch this:

I liked and respected him until he used this forum to trash Oliver and Epigonos. They had long befriended him yet he stabbed them in the back right here.

The second session I had with F. the day of the 17th anniversary of Sauna Pointe was great. He is into everything, and does it well. Not a very big cock but sucking, licking, kissing and rimming capacities are very good. In addition, F. has great smile and cute face. 23 years old. Worth a repeat, no doubt :-))

I don't know. I was assuming it meant private rooms where men who have just met can go and do calisthenics in private.... I don't think the whole place was shutting down.

If you scroll through the posts it looks to be a bit more than a year old. Certainly from the pictures it's not a place for sex pats, more for local guys (gays). It looks more like it would be in the category of Fake Club, etc. in BKK, which also - appropriately enough - aren't in Thai Puan. It was so easy to find with a simple search on google maps that I do wonder wonder about the post...., but one purpose of the forum is to gather information, so I went ahead and answered it. Too much free I time, I think.

I's add shot of undiluted gin after ever meal

whoring is considered world's oldest profession so obviously while some businesses are dying , new ones are showing up to cater for ever present demand

At least Senator Ted Cruz has decided to self quarantine because he associated with someone at CPAC who has the coronavirus. I am not a fan of Senator Cruz but people one may dislike are not always "evil.". Please pay attention to the concept that people are very complicated, including Hillary Clinton.

This is exactly overreacting will do. If what i read is true, that it does transmit the same flu is, and even asymptomatic person can also transmit the virus, no travel restriction will be effective anyway in combating the spread. Itll slow down for sure but will never stop it. What travel reatriction and virus scares really do is hurting the economy, hurting the income of business that rely on tourism, hurting the factories, hurting the import and exports. What should be focused on are for all nation to ensure their healthcare are up to standard to face such pandemic if and when it happened. That includes having enough budget allocated for health. I know some countries are doing a good job at this but clearly some are not. And with the economy being badly hurt, itll make it much harder to channel money towards healthcare, let alone research on vaccines and cures. Heck, we couldve had a vaccine had the SARS vaccine research continues, or at least very close to have one given how similar this virus is to SARS, even being named SARS-cov2. Malaysia currently having a second wave of cluster infection, almost all linked to a person. That person travelled to shanghai and came back on 17th january, and tested positive 27february, 6 weeks after, so he might got infected from an unknown person locally instead. He is a high profile guy who is dierector of company and board of member of another, and lots of close contact with him tested positive now. Not as bad as south korean church though. It is inevitable and i do believe a delay by travel restriction will actually help in countries with poor health care, as what happened in wuhan, is not what all want to see elsewhere. I did google how an outbreak ends, its either a cure or vaccine is found/developed (like smallpox), or enough people has been infected and developed antibodies against it and no more new infection happening, or it becomes a normal infection where u can get it everwhere and is no longer considered localized and can be contained (like H1N1).

So after 24 hours, and from 14 respondents, the vote is neck and neck: which is kind of surprising, since I thought people would be more upbeat about Bangkok here, regardless of the circumstances. Thank you for the great advice so far. I've had a long conversation with the BF yesterday, and he is still leaning towards not going. I am on the fence, leaning a little towards going, but I would hate that the first time the BF sees Asia is through the fog of COVID-19 complications. One thing has been clear, the virus itself is more or less not the issue here, us being relatively young and healthy, but its the other complications of the pandemic (quarantines and airline cancellations and travel bans and media hysteria, not to mention my parent's worry) that makes it a complicated matter. A number of music festivals and conventions have already been cancelled here in the US, which makes it even more of a bummer. I guess we were lucky that carnaval in Rio was not scaled down last week due to this mess. Offing for me is a solitary activity. I wouldn't dare do this with the BF, or if with "regular" friends with me in Bangkok, which happens once in a while. But, the BF is keen on at least seeing a boy bar and the seediness attached to it (and a girlie bar or two as well). He is Brazilian after all. Ugh this is just one of many things that complicates things. It would be OK if it were just me, seasoned traveler, having seen everything, but not with the BF with his first time in Asia. I'd dare say even if we cancel there will be other chances for sure. Knowing me though, it might be with a different BF lol. Thanks for laying all this out. It's the infinite permutation of complications that makes it almost not worth it. But lol yes getting home quarantined is actually a positive. At work this week, people were paranoid, and one sneeze has everyone look at you weird, and HR has been quick to recommend people to just work from home. I am American yup. The BF is Brazilian. I didn't realize there are countries putting Americans in a quarantine list. I don't blame them. We do not have our shit together yet. The mercy with our airfare is that they are awards booking through United, so if we cancel last-minute, it is only $50 to redeposit the miles we used. The Crowne Plaza Bangkok booking can be cancelled without penalty. The issue is not the Bangkok bookings, the issue is more making other travel plans because he and I have the time off already planned with our respective work. If we cancel BKK, I may just spend that easter week in Brazil (like you!), or maybe somewhere closer like Mexico. Amen to all of this. Dying is not my worry though. We are not gonna die from this. It's the other complications that this confusion has brought that I am worried about.

There's the health risk to yourself (+1) - young healthy guys probably not something to worry about, but up to you. How safe is it to stay in any of our home countries these days? The health risk to others - the risk that you (+1) are exposed, get it and are asymptotic or minor ignorable symptoms ("just tired after all that partying"), in good faith go home and uniwttingly expose others back home. A legit concern. That's the whole point of the blanket travel restrictions. As in any communicable disease situation like this, the potential impact on others is surely as important (or more) than on one's self. But right now Thailand isn't on the bad lists and the number of people with COVID-19 is very low. [yes - some people say the reported numbers are suspiciously low. Who really knows?] My plan is to be in home quarantine when I get back to the states regardless, just to be safe for others. Impossible to quantify this one? The inconvenience risk that Thailand goes on a high risk list in the week that you are here and you (+1) are put on some sort of home quarantine when you go home. Maybe not that much of an inconvenience at all. hehehe Presumably you're checking your respective travel health insurance policies for coverage in case you are stuck here. Bangkok isn't empty. Still lots and lots of people around. I just saw a friend's vid from DJ last night and it quite looked reasonably busy. Perhaps a bit more comfortable to dance. I would expect lots of your fellow circuit guys to cancel, but surely not all. So you won't be alone in BKK. Still, when I looked a couple of days ago tickets were available at the early-bird price, which makes me wonder if the event was cancelled for lack of bookings. With Pattaya and Khon Kaen cancelling main Songkran activities, despite the Tourism Minister saying all will be normal-ish, I think it's 50-50 that Bangkok does the same and cancels the main Songkran water events. So far nothing about Fake Club having its usual outdoor Songkran party. Hmmmmm. Still, I think it's very, very, very hard not to have lots and lots and lots of fun in BKK.

The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety disagrees. And they have numbers to back it up in the U.S. because speed limits were reduced to conserve oil but then allowed to rise again -- and fatalities increased. "An IIHS study examined longer-term changes. During 1993-2017, a 5 mph increase in the maximum state speed limit was associated with an 8 percent increase in fatality rates on interstates and freeways and a 3 percent increase on other roads (Farmer, 2019). In total, there were an estimated 37,000 more traffic fatalities during these years than would have been expected if maximum speed limits in 1993 had remained in place. In 2017 alone, there were more than 1,900 additional deaths." https://www.iihs.org/topics/speed#by-the-numbers

I, for one can't envision myself flying all the way to Thailand to watch good dancers. Bad dancers with good body and smiling face are more than welcomed though

to spare boy an embarrassment of that call and waiting for me to answer I almost always walk my guy down to a street . This courtesy is NOT awarded to guys with disappointed performance

The faux-pas of first putting up a notice on social media and then taking it down without saying whether it was cancelled or remained in effect will certainly make potential visitors reconsider all travel plans to Thailand. It's not just a matter of making flexible flight arrangements. Why make any arrangement at all if one cannot be sure whether one will be slapped with a quarantine order for 14 days on arrival? Today it is this country that is listed, tomorrow it may well be another country, including transit! Who is going to go to Thailand just to admire the wallpaper inside a hotel room non-stop for 336 hours (14 days)? And pay for 14 nights to do so? Uncertainty is the killer that will depress the country's tourism sector. The indecision, blundering and thoughtless policy announcements by this minister add to it. I am pretty sure the tourism minister who has to answer for his sector's shortfall must be irate at this public health minister. Mack.

Trump has at last — brilliantly, within the Drumph’s modus operandi — found a way to throw Pence himself under the bus.

Joan Rivers of all people said a very sensible thing for weight control: ‘Eat whatever you want, within reason, but stop at 3:00!pm.’ Then just a snack of a little bit of steamed broccoli or some such at dinner.

I find the banner at the top showing live models can be a bit embarrassing when all of a sudden a naked derrière in a suggestive pose appears to anyone near you glancing at your screen.