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Your comment reminds me I learned that from my first trip to Bangkok. My first trip to a Thai Boy Club I was a bit taken back and felt uneasy. Attractive Guys parading on stage in skimpy underwear with a number attached seemed like a meat market and I was very uncomfortable. But after talking to the guys I realized, as you stated, many had traveled from country villages to Bangkok for the sole purpose of being a sex worker. And I realized I was not only in a different country but a different culture and sex culture. I actively hired escorts for about 10 years around the world, throughout my 40's and was a very active reviewer at the Old Hooboys site and a few here when Oz first started this site. The last escort I hired was when I turned 50 (2 heart attacks and 4 colon surgeries later I am now in my early 60's). I always stayed in a suite at the JW Marriott in Bangkok (this is important to the story). From my many trips to Thailand the one guy that still sticks out in my mind above all was on one of the first nights of my first trip. I met a cute tall guy at one of the smaller clubs. He returned to my room and after some play we ordered room service. He was truly thrilled and I asked him to spend the night. Then breakfast in the members lounge the next morning. I learned that he was from a farming village on the Burma -Thai border and came to Bangkok to be a sex worker, and had not been working long. His family knew why he came to Bangkok and he sent money back home. It was considered honorable. In the village he made money collecting dry-land fish, from a nearby river, and sold them in the village. For those that don't know, that is fish that remains on land after a river or stream recedes after a flood or high water. He lived in Bangkok with about a half dozen or more other guys where they shared one room. So the night in a suite at the Marriott was a big thing for him. I noticed when he was on stage he wore a battered dirty old pair of white tennis shoes without laces that barely stayed on this feet. After breakfast I asked him if he had other shoes, answer no. I asked the hotel if there was a department store near. There was a very nice one just a few blocks away. I asked him to go with me before he left. He did and I took him up the escalator to the shoe dept and told him to pick out a pair, whatever he wanted. I then saw the perfect picture of the Land of smiles on his face. He kept asking about this shoe or that one, I said whatever you want. I stood back laughing while he was sitting in the floor surrounded by a dozen boxes it seemed trying to pick. I think it brought me as much joy as it did him. He settled on a nice pair of Nikes if I remember correctly. Outside he was still smiling big, thanked me again, bowed and we parted. That night I went back to the small club and as I walked in he was sitting off to the side with other guys, wearing his new shoes, waiting for their turn to rotate on stage. As I sat down he pointed toward me and said something to the other guys. As some of them rotated off stage they come over to me, bowed, and thanked me for being kind to their friend. They did not ask to go with me, instead thanked me for their friend. Now I don't know if he was "desperate", but I do know he was just working to support himself and family in a job he came to Bangkok to do and he thought it to be an honorable job. I had great sex with many sexy guys while hiring, including from a certain Escort Agency in NYC , and remember many of these great encounters. But I remember absolutely nothing about the sex with him. But I still remember his reactions at the Luxury Hotel and how good I felt to make him so happy and put that big smile on his face. Yes he did spend the night with me more than once on two different trips. In those 10 years I hired around 200 guys or so (plus repeats) and had close to 150 reviews on the OLD Hooboy site. I have no regrets nor feel guilty about anyone I hired, did not inquire as to their desperation for funds, and met some truly great people that I had much respect for. I had a monthly regular in Indianapolis I met at a strip club. He was 'str8' but our 2 hr visit made his truck payment each month. His girlfriend had used a strapon with him but he loved the real thing more and was a fantastic bottom. Was he desperate for money? Don't know but he was great in bed and got this truck payment made. He got so hard with a cock in him I think he come out of the deal pretty good. I hired several Escorts that were teachers needing to pay off student loans. Were they desperate? Don't know but they were great companions and great in the sack. Anyone that works, does it at least partly for the money, regardless of the profession. Even the rich.7 points
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Post NY in Rio
tassojunior and 2 others reacted to hurstwickham for a topic
My flight touched down in Rio on time in the afternoon. All went smoothly and was quickly on my way in an Uber to Ipanema to a simple AirBnB. Wasted no time in getting to Pointe 202 where there was already a reasonable numbers of boys and customers. All the staff were welcoming most with a smile and got a beer to relax and check out the scene. A good selection of boys from twinks to muscle, even though I thought it might be quiet after NY celebrations. I spotted an athletic young guy but he was busy and continued to be busy all night. I went with a young black guy and had an amazing session. What a welcome to the city. Will hopefully see him again over the next few days. Came back to the bar in the hope of seeing the young twink but you no avail. He was working hard with his regulars I guess. The jet lag was starting to set in so headed out for dinner and bed. Trust I will get to see him another night. Been looking forward to this trip for a while as my last couple of times to Brazil have been to São Paulo and I have been missing Rio.3 points -
It does strike me as a bit strange to think the boys in the clubs and massage studios would somehow be more desperate for your money than all the thai resort workers whose wages you seem happy to be pay.3 points
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Police raided VCK 27 Dec 2019
BL8gPt and 2 others reacted to DivineMadman for a topic
I think it is still prudent to follow the standard advice and have a photo on your phone of your passport id page, visa and/or entry stamp and if you really want to be careful your departure card.3 points -
Hiring escorts desperate for money
Latbear4blk and 2 others reacted to RockHardNYC for a topic
Those are some of the most snobbish, elitist comments I've ever heard. It's classism on steroids. I could never share my social time with someone who speaks like this. I've experienced way too many ugly rich people in my life, and speech like this is ugly. Nothing disgusts me more than someone who has snobbish elitism in his heart, especially if the person is good looking. Those who have little wealth can be among the most beautiful people on the planet. In my real world, modesty trumps showy arrogance every day.3 points -
... I like to have a martini, Two at the very most. Three, I’m under the table, Four, I’m under my host!’2 points
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Hiring escorts desperate for money
brockmiller and one other reacted to nycman for a topic
He’s trying to draw some ridiculous line between “posh” and “poor” escorts. It’s a stupid mind game that makes him feel better about himself and superior to others. Leave him to it.....and his posh Cartier hoarding Russian whore lounging by a Thai Resort Pool. The imagery alone is making me giggle with delight. Euorpeanman.....please tell me you wear an oversized caftan and head wrap during the scene.2 points -
Hiring escorts desperate for money
brockmiller and one other reacted to Lucky for a topic
The underlying assumption of Euroman's posts seems to be that escorting is unsavory- something one would never do unless desperate. Is it okay to buy gum from someone selling it because he is desperate for the money? Granted, sex work is more personal, but unless the worker is a slave to a pimp or a trafficker, then it's his choice. Europeanman, have a great time in Thailand!2 points -
Just the one lol but i texted him earlier so he already on his street shirt and never made it to the stage whole night lol2 points
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I think you said selling themselves to survive. Well, I don't know of one guy in Bangkok who could not go back to their village and survive working on the family farm or in a local store, or whatever. They choose this as the pay is better and it gives them better opportunities. I'd love to know your definition of survival. Because, I think mine might be different but mine is only based on the few thousand guys I have known over the years.2 points
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I am very late to the Spartacus series, which started on Starz and is now on Netflix. I thought the guy playing Spartacus was really good and very hot. Why isn't he the sexiest man alive? I got to the end of Season 1 and was so happy with an episode I started googling the show. Shock ensued as I learned that actor Andy Whitfield cannot be the sexiest man alive because he isn't...alive. He died of a sudden leukemia after the first season. Here he has his biggest role yet and this hits him. I have yet to see his successor, Liam McIntyre. There is nothing about the show at the other site or here. Given the nudity and eroticism of those loin-clothed gladiators, I would have thought it would be talked about. It's a good show!1 point
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Moved here from the other side :)
nynakedtop reacted to Europeanman for a topic
Hi guys, I moved here from the other site, where I have been righteous banned. I promise to keep misbehaving to spice things up :)1 point -
THE EXPANSE, Amazon Prime
Lucky reacted to Latbear4blk for a topic
Another show I am surprised no one has mentioned before. If you are into hard science fiction, you will love it. Spotless production and acting. The first three seasons were SyFy Chanel, Amazon picked up the fourth, all of them are available in Amazon Prime TV. The first two seasons are excellent. The third one is OK. I am watching the 4th. Production and Acting are still impeccable, but the plot is very weakened, as the original premise went blurred. The original premise was very appealing. The game of diplomacy and geopolitics is taken from international to interplanetary. Mars and Earth are two industrialized powers, and the asteroids belt is a raw materials producer. The first two seasons played with those tensions. But the show was very successful and they had to force an "expanse" in the original scope of the plot, and of course they added aliens. Anyway, a must see if you are into hard sci fi. And for those who besides enjoy eye candy, you do have some. Check this up, @TotallyOz:1 point -
Sounds like I may have glossed over my first encounter with Andre. Pathetic may not be pretty, but it brings home the bacon. And props to the OP and fellow posters! Nice to see a five-pager take shape in little over a week.1 point
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THE EXPANSE, Amazon Prime
Latbear4blk reacted to caeron for a topic
We love the show. Wonderfully detailed writing of a complex political world matched to really, excellent science fiction. Every season has been fabulous. We just finished the most recent one and it was as good as the rest.1 point -
From Bangkok Post Baht’s sudden drop shows battle lines drawn The baht plunged as much as 1.8% on Thursday, the biggest decline since 2007, to 30.226 against the dollar in early Asia trading. That almost erased all the gains it made in the past three sessions. "It’s likely to be central bank intervention given that the central bank has mentioned that they’ll be fighting against baht strength," said Mingze Wu, a foreign-exchange trader at INTL FCStone in Singapore. It may also have been due to traders betting the baht will strengthen overextending their positions, he said. The currency appreciated almost 9% in 2019, the best performer in Asia, as its large current-account surplus lured investors seeking haven assets during an intensifying US-China trade war. Authorities have battled markets to keep gains in check, taking measures including interest-rate cuts and easing rules on outflows. Liquidity in the currency market is normalising even as the baht remains volatile, Bank of Thailand assistant governor Vachira Arromdee said on Thursday. There still remains sharp fluctuations in the baht as the market adjusts to the buying and selling of dollars, she said. The central bank remains concerned about the baht’s appreciation and is ready to consider additional measures, according to minutes of its Dec 18 rate meeting released on Thursday. The government also weighed in, with Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha saying on Thursday that the need for new currency measures is being considered. A joint commission between the central bank and the finance ministry has also been formed to tackle the issue, Gen Prayut added. The country's reserves and current-account surplus are key factors luring investors to the baht. The central bank’s foreign-cash pile stands at $222 billion, while the current-account surplus was $3.38 billion in November. Policy makers need to encourage overseas investments by local investors to trim the current-account surplus, said Stephen Innes, chief Asia market strategist at AxiTrader in Bangkok. Domestic investors’ risk bias is to stay at home and the barrier to change that behavior is “massive,” he said. https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/1827524/bahts-sudden-drop-shows-battle-lines-drawn1 point
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Sawasdee phimai, or selamat tahun baru for the Or. poster. Happy Nw Yr for all the rest. First: not all Chinese, luckily, come from mainland China. Many more come as tourists from Malaysia, Taiwan or SIN-they will speekee the ingriss, in a slightly different way as most Thai (guys), lah! Mainland Chinese visiting gay bars are as such still a fairly rare fenomenon, and as they seem to do with HTLs and places-to-eat, they all seem to stick to the same places. Modern China all works on apps-on their very own non-google versions, weibo and alipay to pay and the like. So thats what they know. In the area where I mostly stay a surprising nr of Thai in the ´hospitality´ industry deal with non-Thai speaking tourists since many yrs and are also well versed with many who do not even or hardly speekee the ankrit-think of many italians, Russki or Spanish. Also quite a large nr of those Thai are of former Chinese descent and can at least master one Chinese dialect-mostly Cantonnese or Fuzhou or Fuxian. That helps with HKGers and those from there. State-ruled mandarin is quite rare though, but not impossible to find. n the past i was often surprised at how well and how many of the guys could speak Japanese, but as the tourists from there this seems waning.1 point
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Hiring escorts desperate for money
AdamSmith reacted to RockHardNYC for a topic
Here are the ten richest actors in Hollywood. Johnny Depp – $450 million. Tyler Perry – $450 million. Jack Nicholson – $400 million. Tom Hanks – $390 million. Bill Cosby – $380 million. Clint Eastwood – $370 million. Keanu Reeves – $350 million. Adam Sandler – $340 million. Not all of them are terrible.1 point -
at end of day it may turn not to be so fantastic, day may come when we will be departing Thailand and officer will tell us ' o, I can see you engaged three guys from grindr, two from Blued and one from PlanetRomeo, you visited Sauna Mania on Friday at time of their show / orgy and on Saturday you left Jupiter with a guy who at later hour was seen entering Tarntawan with you and leaving alone only 8 hours later. I'm not sure all this is aligning well with our government policy so please wait here ". Day or two later when we arrive in our country after of course forced to buy another ticket because we missed flight in BKK, the same sentence will be repeated with warning about soliciting prostitution being illegal un der universal jurisdiction and you will be informed about court date by the registered mail. If you think it's fantasy , read about Chinese being denied purchase of train ticket etc. because of previous infractions. Sometimes I think it's nice to be of certain age as it affords us more hope we won't live long enough to see it implemented , all to our applaud.1 point
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Reminds me of the saying by Dorothy Parker.... “If you want to know what God thinks of money, just look at the people he gave it to“1 point
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Thats not even how he looks now lol. But again, i could be wrong but when i see that songkran pic, this guy came to mind first.1 point
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I pledge guilty of being part of the reason of the lack of boys on stage lol.1 point
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2019 Rio Christmas break
NoGagSuckerSF reacted to Primeone385 for a topic
Wish there were pictures the description was like wow. My mind is racing trying to visualize the studs you had.1 point -
Monday dawned and I will still in bed. It was quite a bit after dawn when I woke up. At breakfast all of the golfers had already departed for the links. My Bangkok messages were mainly from Numazu and Paul, the Moonlight mamasan. Numazu was checking in and filling me in on what transpired after we said goodbye at Hot Male. It's quite a lot and is in his report, so I refer you there. Paul was confirming details for meeting up with babe. Apparently, pre-show "get-togethers" were not routine but easily arranged. Fees were as mentioned in other reports. I gave Paul 500 for being a good sport about the arrangements. babe is the cynosure of Moonlight's marketing and is definitely a draw. What caused me to want to spend private time with him was how he dominated the Moonlight stage from opening number to shower show when I visited last week. From other reports and some private PM-ing, I was not anticipating any wild sexual adventuring and there wasn't any. What I did encounter is a very charming young man with a killer smile who is focused on his client. He likes to be the center of attention and i gave him my Ipad and asked him to show me his favorite videos and photos of himself. He liked this and pulled up many photos showing him fully clothed. He is, for some, an influencer and the clothes are "gifted". He likes to travel and is happy to travel with clients (i didn't enquire further). I asked him to loosen things up and show me his moves for his RIcky Martin "She bangs" number and he let me be the "she". FOr this routine he was in his briefs which led to a few moments of both laughter and intimacy as the briefs dropped away for a few moments. He is shy but easily moves to another level when he is performing. His endowment(s) match the video links some have posted in the forum. I asked if he wanted to eat before going back to the club, he declined and then told me more about his trips, especially Hong Kong which he said was "sad, now". Conversation was via google translate, club commercial English, and guessing it out. I walked half way back toward Moonlight with him and then I headed to Madrid for my pizza pit stop. There is more to my Monday, but those reading my report seem to have been waiting for the above information. For the rest of Monday... Around 9pm, I went to Red Dragon for a dose of attention which was achieved, then I went to Lucky Boy, still no Lucy. Seated in the front, I watched the battery of boys, at least 3 caught my attention, sat with two of them, tipped them with thanks and some red notes and sent them back, asked 22, the straight beauty, to sit with me during the show, told him I wouldn't off him, he allowed my hands to wander. Maybe by my next trip to Bangkok, he will have expanded his horizons. I watched the first 30 minutes of the show, and must admit as Divine Madman told me, if I look beyond the lady boy singers I'll see some great looking guys backing them up. OK...but the number of singers still is over the top. I gave #22 several red notes and he gave me a kiss and a grope. I then went over to Red Dragon, slipping past the Hot Male barkers. Once there, the bartender handed me a campari and soda and we discussed options for my waiter of the evening. This would be #4...we agreed it wouldn't be the bartender as he has to lock up and do his books and not until almost 1am, but maybe sometime... I told him who had caught my fancy and he said to give him a moment and he went upstairs and came back with one of the two guys I mentioned. Usual conversation ensued...except that I was a very known quantity among the staff so no need for detail. I gave him the off fee, he went back to the club, paid it, changed (?) though I couldn't see what had changed, and off we went to the Tarntawan. It's sort of like being in a play that is having nightly performances...boy knows of me, knows where my hotel is, what security requires, what my room number is, how the elevator operates, where his shoes go, to invite me to shower with him, to drop the towel once he is dry and not to hide under the covers. All the intimate stuff is the same but with different points of emphasis. I enjoy it, I think he has a bit of fun, too as he isn't in a hurry to rush off to catch customers from the 2nd show. He does leave, security does call, and before I fall asleep, I have a moment to realize this has been a good day.1 point
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Reminds me one of my offs from Tawan, guy planted himself beside me , smiled , took my hand and placed on his already rigid member and said ' one thousand five hundred short time four hundred for the bar", not even liturgical questions ' how long you are in Bangkok etc. " were asked. Next word uttered by me were 'see you tomorrow' to a guy manning the entry when we were leaving. On our way to Nantra it turned that my guy speaks actually quite decent English and yes in the room we did quite a lot.1 point
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Hiring escorts desperate for money
numerito reacted to RockHardNYC for a topic
Amen. The last time I visited a great HE massage therapist, who clearly was enjoying the work (and my cock), I said to him, "What a great job you have. You get to work from a comfy home. You get to be your own boss and work the hours you select. You get to pick your own table, sheets, towels, lotions, and music. You get to pick and choose the customers you prefer (he asked for a photo). You get to work naked on other naked men. You get to choose which guys you desire for extended play. I can't think of a job that is more fun than yours." His response? "I can't think of one either." And he said it with a big smile before going down on my engorged cock.1 point -
When he started working, he hardly understood what the customers are saying to him so he only replied “ok, ok”. Once at the hotel, he realised the misunderstandings since then he took a particular attention to “ who f**k who”1 point
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Which language do Chinese use to talk to the Thai?
splinter1949 reacted to yourlonelies for a topic
Most Chinese, especially the old, can not speak English at all. Consequently when they travel abroad, the only choice for them is group tour operated by travel agencies. A Tour guide who acts like a babysitter will help them manage all the issues (flights, tickets, hotel, meals and more) so they can travel without English and even do not have to communicate to local people. They just need to follow their tour guide to complete all the journey. Furthermore, the main reasons for Chinese to travel abroad are tourist attractions, shopping and family time, instead of night life. They come to Bangkok for the Grand Palace rather than Silom road. However, as the LGBT culture gets greater influence in China nowadays, the younger generation (below 35 years old) begin to travel on their own, explore gay bars and even off boys. About 20% young Chinese can speak English so they communicate with Thai boys in English without obstacles, but the rest 80% could only try their best to use body language LOL. Good news is more and more gay bars, Moonlight for instance, now start to offer Chinese service. By the way, I come from China so there may be some problems in my English. Thanks for your understanding.1 point