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The photo in the Line conversation that the mamasan sent to me was not from any professional publication. Also, I am guessing that those boys were either already offed, or not in that night, or was there onstage but I didn't like. Either way I know there are bottoms there, just not there that night for me to off. Don't let my little anecdote dissuade you into not going to This bar. Jupiter will forever hold a place in my heart as the bar that produced my greatest off, a handsome, hung, kissing, topping, bottoming, rimming, dating, sensual, sexual, sexy beast of a boy (MonBoy). They do exist. Too bad he is busy farming in Myanmar still. Make your own Bangkok memories™. I knew a gogo bar boy, Thai, very handsome, and a typical gay boy who goes to DJ Station and circuit parties and loves topping and bottoming and deep kisses with men like any other red-blooded gay boy, told me that because he looked more masculine than most of his Dream Boy coworkers, that he usually gets hired by women more than most of his other mates. And he says the sight of vagina makes him barf, but 2000 baht is 2000 baht™. LOL who?7 points
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On this unintended repeat visit I decided to take a look at the clubs I didn't visit 3 weeks ago. Also, I was piqued by DanKFQ's observations in his thread: that when he entered Golden Cock, the boys outside were actually surprised that a customer had showed up (duh.....); and that since he was the only one there, he became focus of all attention. I was hoping I'll spoil myself with a couple of twinks on each side.....Alas! it was not to be. Golden Cock turned out to be a small unappealing room, barely a meter between the 'stage' and the seats. As I entered, there were 6 'boys' standing in front of two customers. As all attention swerved toward the newcomer, the two looked between bored and alarmed. I took one look at the stage and fled: 2 were fat, by any definition of the term; 2 were old, well past past past their prime; and all were unappealing. I said thank you, exited, and went to Nature Boy. There was no need to enter; the guy outside said there was only one boy inside. Again "thank you" and backtracked to Tawan. I'm not into bodybuilders, but I figured since I was already there - I'd just take a peak. They readily agreed to let me look for a moment before paying, and so I did. The place looked shabby; there were a few customers and about 8-10 boys (actually men), all indeed with huge biceps. Most of them also had if not huge than at least big protruding bellies, the opposite of six packs. I retreated for a third time, and made my way to the main cluster. Hotmale turned out to be similar to Screw and Fresh, and no boy there drew my attention. Proceeded to Jupiter, which was the only club refusing a request for a peak. [It seems an unreasonable marketing policy, but I assume they understand their business better than I do.] Unsurprisingly I ended up again at the one club I remembered fondly: DreamBoys. I sat through two shows with routines I had already seen 3 weeks ago. The real gorgeous guy there is the one wearing a policeman uniform: great non-twinkish body, and he seems to really enjoys his moves. For some reason it didn't cross my mind to ask if he's off-able; maybe his is a model's rate. In any case, he was called to sit between two Chinese(?) young ladies, and I envied them. After offing a cute twink #72 and before leaving, I went up to the sitting policeman and gave him a 200 baht tip (which apparently surprised him, maybe because he's used to getting tips only on stage). Before offing Kim 72, the mamasan obliged me by bringing him and his drink to sit with me outside, so we could actually HEAR each other. He was nice, promised to do everything (kiss, suck, etc.), and off we went. It wasn't so nice once in bed. At some point when I motioned him to suck me, he said "I top no suck". I reminded him that's not what he had previously said, so he started opening a condom for a suck. Again I said no, he relented, but the vibe was already lost despite his efforts to satisfy me. After the deed was done, I paid him his due without additions. That was my final club night. I'm glad I've re-introduced myself to the scene after a 10-years hiatus. My thought was that if this goes well, I'll become a twice-a-year regular. However, as explained 3 weeks ago, I'm unattracted to the club scene. I would have enjoyed myself immensely sitting-interacting generously with a boy or two, evening in evening out, but I just can't stand the overpowering music making communication impossible. Also, to my disappointment, I don't find the racier routines erotically arousing. I SHALL be back, but with more realistic expectations. Thanks again to all who guided me through my research, and thus helped me make the most of gaytown BKK. Wish you all happy happy!5 points
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Now im going nut over nest too.4 points
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a visit to the new Lagoa
pauleiro and 2 others reacted to likeohmygod for a topic
Oh no! Don't say that...you might be charged for discrimination here on the forum . The "over 30y & bad looking" union is going to sue you. Some people are treating Rodolfo as a complete idiot...without doing a prior check of the current and past situation. The fact that he's putting some restrictions (which have always existed in saunas thanks to god, also in Junior's 202 and Monique's 117), only proves that he cares about his business and that he strongly believes that the demand is going to that way. So no he's not running his personal playground, and no he's not hosting your personal one. If I cannot accomodate the demand of everyone, I prefer to fully accomodate the one from the majority of the users, keeping the quailty as high as possible. He's not forcing you to visit the new sauna, and he's not expecting the same amount of customers since the place is considerable smaller. Despite all of the huge architectural problems the new building has (which cannot be solved, without moving again to another place), the new Lagoa is working great after only a few days from the inauguration. And btw those limits are not strict.3 points -
After my deluge of reports 3 weeks ago, I flew on to Australia and NZ. I was supposed to return home via a 4-days stop in Hong Kong, but since it's not hospitable nowadays - I substituted BKK for Hong Kong at almost no cost. It offered two consolations: less money, more boys. Friday noon I was on my way from Tarntawan to Magic Touch massage, when Grindr beckoned. Nice looking guy with better-than-usual English offered himself instead of Magic, and I agreed. Cambodian, whose name and nick is Chetra. Good thing I did, because when I stepped into the place just to get an impression, there was only one guy there. He said that in the afternoon-evening there'll be eight of them. I went on to buy some socks; bought also for Chetra who had asked for them, though I wasn't sure whether he was serious or joking. Our session was good, and since I enjoy more when I can converse-connect, I invited him to join me for hotel-breakfast the next day (specifying that no money will change hands) with the expressed intention of 'interrogating' him all about life in Cambodia and BKK. He readily agreed; our Saturday meal was VERY educational for me; and then he volunteered to join me on a walk to Lumpini park. On Sunday he also came with me to Dragon Temple. When we parted ways (he home, me to Chatuchak), I gave him 800 baht for his time. I later declined his offer of an additional massage, preferring variety. Back to Friday afternoon: after Chetra had left I walked to Chu Chocolate Bar for a meeting with Anddy, who had graciously agreed to share with me his 5 years experience as a farang living in BKK. He too withstood my interrogation, telling me about his life here, other expats, gay sex scene, forum community, etc. His chocolate was my treat, but his insights were a TREAT indeed. Thanks again Anddy! During my visit 3 weeks ago, an Indonesian 35 y/o PhD student (not MB) reached out to me, and we met. He's into older farangs, and wanted just to meet for coffee. There was quick chemistry between us, but our schedules didn't allow for another meeting. When I texted him I was returning to BKK, we set a date which was even better than the first (this time including hanky-panky). I think I've made a new overseas friend! Returning home with good non-sex memories (-:2 points
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Madam Secretary Comes to an End
floridarob and one other reacted to TotallyOz for a topic
I enjoyed the show and will miss it. I hope they find other shows for the cast members.2 points -
A HOST bar is a gay bar that has (some of its) staff for rent (called off, or pay barfine). They may be waiters or not. In Pattaya pretty common and called bar beer. This however has never been the practice on soi 4, though many a freelancer used to hang out there. Comes to the same-you have a temporary willing BF, but there is no barfine/off to be paid to bar. If those hosts are also dancing, or pretending to, its usually called aGOGO. This is/was the most common format in Silom/around Patpong bars. Thai style bars sometimes have friendly guys for rent as company during your stay in the bar, pay by the minute! Quite uncommon though for usual gay bars and for farang. Much more common for str8 ladies and also in Japan. Much more common in Thai bars is the KaraOK concept, not really beoved by farang. As usual about all these concepts are imitations of how the much larger str8 bars work and ofte were initiated in Japan.2 points
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Let's make Jupiter2018 great again!2 points
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strange my day usually starts by checking if guy sleeping beside still has erection2 points
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I was about to go to bed until a few minutes ago, but now these pictures are holding me back here on my laptop. Look at his perfect body! not as bulky as other moonlight models, but more defined and just perfect to my taste. It seems like I need to plan my next trip soon.2 points
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get better fast because it's very unhealthy to be sick2 points
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Rest in peace Rene 1940-2019. Boston Legal was perhaps my favorite show of all time.1 point
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Trump is guilty as sin, and most reasonable, non-partisan thinkers know this. I take my legal cues from scholars Lawrence Tribe and Neal Katyal, to name just a few. I absolutely don't listen to partisan legal talking heads. It is absolutely astonishing to me that the same party who impeached Bill Clinton over his lie about a sex allegation is now turning a blind eye to actual abuse of power and extortion. All the Republican Party cares about is money and power. They will say and do anything to keep power, even support a Mafia boss. Trump has exposed the Party's hypocrisy to the MAX. Most of us knew it was always there. Now, the Party is a joke. A complete and total FRAUD. In NYC, I hear often that many people are hoping, praying that Trump dies a quick death. Some are sitting by their TV sets waiting for the fat-ass Mafia boss to fall down the stairs of Air Force One. Trump is the most hated president in my lifetime. He's hated because he truly believes, as president, he's above the law. And now he's got fat-ass Bill Barr to protect him. God help America if Trump gets re-elected. America may not survive that tragedy. (Edit) What does the future hold? Personally, I think the Republican Party deserves to be punished badly for putting this corrupt buffoon in the White House. And I mean punished badly. A hard lesson needs to be learned so the country can avoid something like this moving forward. I'm hoping that Democratic turn-out is going to break records, no matter who the nominee is. Trump (and his family) incites voters like no other political name in recent history. Even if Joe Biden gets the nomination, there may be a flood of voters who are desperate to return to "normal" and will get behind their uncle Joe. There are millions of baby boomers (and their kids) who are desperate to save and reform health care. The future of Medicare and Medicaid depend on Democratic leadership. Most voters hate the insurance companies who control their health care costs. They know more than ever that health insurance businesses are in business to say "NO!" The future of health insurance is looking more and more like the future of tobacco products. Consumers are tired of the profit motive in health care. They are finally realizing the immorality of it all. It takes a rise in suicides to shine a light on this.1 point
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Madam Secretary Comes to an End
TotallyOz reacted to floridarob for a topic
Just watched it,the last episode. Didn't realize it was ending until I saw your post. Was surprised to see Peter Frampton there. I also enjoyed the show, made me believe that we had actual good politicians in real life like them.1 point -
Rio Salvador Manaus Nov Dec 2019
brockmiller reacted to pauleiro for a topic
Pointe monday December 9 Pedro Dias is my favorite stripper and he was in Pointe yesterday. Stunning guy with such a sexy smile ! Cleyson Lopes was great also. His bubble ass is lovely. At the end of the show, he went to me and asked me to put back his underwear. I struggled to put back his firm bubble ass and huge cock in the underwear.1 point -
Rio Salvador Manaus Nov Dec 2019
brockmiller reacted to pauleiro for a topic
Executive summary on Salvador in preparation of my trip this coming week end Thanks to postings from : numazu1 badboy81 Solacesoul Riobard mrb43 TotallyOz Latbear4blk demedici docbr SAUNAS Clube 11 is the most popular rentboy sauna in Salvador, followed closely by Fox. The boys in Clube 11 are mostly Black, while the boys in Fox are mostly Latin. Better to go rather early to saunas but maybe not as early as 4 pm. Clube 11 (formerly Planetario 11) clean and open facility. No Wifi. Boys rather agressive. Wednesday, Friday and possibly Saturday are the days to go to Clube 11 Walking distance to Lapa and Pelourinho so when you finish, you still have options on things to do... The street numbers are fucked for Clube P11 ... the address is 11 Jose Duarte but logically it should be about #91 Fox Sunday is best, then followed by Saturday and Friday. Fox is out of the way compared to Clube 11 location A bit more upscale than Clube 11 Boys in Fox are less aggressive and better looking in average than in Clube 11 (many twinks) Thermas Club 13 Not worth the time (1 hour) and money (R$ 70) to get there PRICES Asked : R$ 80 to 100 / R$ 100 - 120 with tip if service is good Entrance : 35 R$ Suite : 30 R$ FOOD Moqueca de peixe or de camarao VISITS Visit Pelhourinho, particularly the square where the slave auctions occurred and the slaves were whipped publicly. There are two beaches and two beach-side neighborhoods in the Barra section of Salvador. Praia do Porto da Barra is the name of the beach on the port (“porto”) side of Barra, that runs north and south, parallel to Av. Sete de Setembro. It is marked by the two prominent historic forts that the beach area sits between. The area in Barra around this beachside and along this street may often be referred to Porto da Barra. Praia do Farol da Barra is the name of the beach on the lighthouse (“farol”) side, that runs east and west, runs parallel to Av. Oceânica. It is marked by the lighthouse on the east end / corner and keeps running west of it until the hill with the small Christ statue. The area in Barra around this beachside and along this street may often be referred to Farol da Barra. When thinking of a capital L, Porto da Barra is the vertical part, the lighthouse is the converging point, and Farol da Barra is the horizontal part. For the purposes of this group, the Praia do Porto da Barra beach is the most dense, is the most crowded, and towards its most northern end, is more “gay”. Trip to Praia da Forte, and sea turtle sanctuary Night of Samba on the beach with guide Fernando Rio Vermelho : late night parties and clubs, particularly San Sebastian disco which is best on Fridays and Saturdays If you have an evening free, the folk ballet in Pelourinho is recommended1 point -
Having now also been there; its MITR town, which means friendship in Thai. Owned as was the former wet market and foodcourt by CHULA uni opposite. Chula also owns much of Siam centre and thus makes pretty money. It is always among TH 3 best uniś, if not the best in some subjects (with Thammasat and Kasert). Fairly unique to normal Thai customs many of its students are even eager to study and curious to discover new things. Thus no surprise that 99% of them are Chinese, though due to their rich income they also give grants to poor Thai students who pass the heavy exams. There are 2 floors of food outlets: below ground connects to MRT/BEM and has loads of he usual chains, just like T21 on Asoke and a BigC food-only supermarket. Sadly no Jeffer or so. 4th floor has more outlets and a Thai stye foodcrt, where many of the old stalls have gotten new squeaky clean and well-organised stands. You pay by card, which only last 1 day!! UNcommon is that there are large tables to share with strangers and that anyone even brings back his tablet to stands-as you would do in IKEA or McDo. Lots of variety and among the costliest items for 100 bt is beef penis soup. I did not try but went for khao moo daeng. There is no free drink water,as is the case with BigC or Tesco. The usual 7 is on ground floor/backside and is also heavy on fresh and microwave food and here are even some seats/tables for that across. Throughout is good strong free WiFi thus loads of students and others sit there to use that. Strange for a uni-owned centre is that there was not a single book/printed reading matter outlet. But then Chula itself has of course a large bookshop just 200 mtr away. Part of this complek is open 24 hrs. You can connect via a concrete metro-lookalike round tube to the other side and MRT. This is slightly older Chamchuree complek with a tesco on below ground and also yet another foodcourt with higher prices-from 60 bt for most. Also loads of Chula-students there. Nearly forgotten and not that friendly to penny pinching farang: a large covered but openair foodcourt is in the soi just beyond Golden Cock and former new old Barbiery buidling, no signs, no prices advertised-rhis is mostly a sign that you will be cheated in TH and as can be expected the usual foodplace for loads of bargirls and the odd barboy too. And the old stalls-evenings along Lumpini park are also still there.1 point
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Bangkok Arts&Cultural Centre is that snail-lookalike building on Patumwan corner, with MBK and SIAM at other sides, near BTS Siam. From a week or so ago till 1/3 it has a LGBT-inspired exhibition by various artists from ASEAN. Admission is free, but with any bags you have to use a locker for it for 10 bt. Open daily, except monday from 10-20.00. Have not been there to look yet, but will likely pas by next week or so. If youre havig to time to spare daytime and want to get out of silom area. site: en.bacc.or.th1 point
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Certainly not! Every boy has his limits what he can do and what he can't and we have to respect this after all we are dealing with human and not with sex robot.1 point
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I concur; such a response sits better with my (overly?) assertive nature. However, he didn't refuse; he tried to refuse, but I didn't let him. I did write that he later tried to satisfy me. Don't think it's appropriate to demand a refund for killing the vibe.1 point
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If I had been in this situation I would have taken him back to Dreamboys and demanded my Off Fee back and certainly nothing for the Liar!1 point
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as far as I see that's possible now when reports are Yu, Handsome Cambodian moved there from BBB Pattaya1 point
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The only remedy will be another trip to the LOS.1 point
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referring to the photo in the Watt thread, I believe he is actually thinking of Nest. but yes Nut is the lead model in the video in this thread. Will put a few photos of both in Moonlight thread for our general viewing pleasure and to appreciate them side by side1 point
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remember what Obama used to say "yes , we can"1 point
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Next to Nicky is Nest. He is very cute.1 point
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I completely agree. At the end of the day, real regrets are not about making bad choices, but not making any choice at all... not about having a couple bad off experiences but not attempting to off a guy of your interest, at least to kill your curiosity. Unless you have unrealistic expectations, you will not be disappointed by offing Mr. Babe.1 point
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Fly more pay less....
Bucknaway1614502762 reacted to JunNJ for a topic
My local airport is Philadelphia. I come to Brazil many times. I do not fly from Philly because it is like $500 difference if you fly from JFK which have more flights to Brazil such as LATAM, COPA in addition to AA and DELTA. I noticed this year, they removed flights to Rio. I tried multi city flights before but when Rio was still available. Your multi city flight will definitely costs more. JFK has many direct flights to SP from different airlines. If you want to come to JFK for ticket good prices, from Philadelphia take the NJ transit from Trenton to NY Penn Station(75min) and transfer to LIRR to Jamaica station (20min) where you can take the Air Train to your Gate. This takes almost 3hrs total but it may saves you $500 price difference. Thats what I do. I am from Southern part of NJ near Philly. Always set an alert for ticket prices using google flights. ticket price comes down usually on Tues -Wed -Thursday when they go on sale for couple of days only so check on those dates. I suggest when you get to SP go to Rio first and come back to SP for your last leg of your trip so you dont have to wait in SP airport coming from Rio to catch a flight back home at night.1 point -
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I was in India earlier this year. Spent few days in Mumbai and then spent more time in Kerala. My experience was similar when I changed location to Mumbai on Planet Romeo... received number of messages. I met one guy, an IT professional, that way. On Grindr, it was even more active. Every time I logged in, I had 15-20 messages. Many of them don't show their pictures in the profiles. They post pictures from other websites. If it's their own pic, then they will specify that dp (display picture) is their. I also had many guys contact me while I was in a smaller town in Kerala. So, overall an active scene in many parts of India. I found that most folks in the hospitality industry speak decent English.1 point
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a visit to the new Lagoa
floridarob reacted to SolaceSoul for a topic
On Wednesday night, the same friend of a friend from before who is a regular at Lagoa went back to the new Espaço Lagoa. While he was talking with Rodolfo about the new restriction of garotos 30 years old or over, Rodolfo also said that he has now made an exception to this rule for "old" garotos that he personally knew and who were still, in his view, “good-looking” — provided that they are “hugely hung”. Anyone who is familiar enough with Rodolfo can attest that with this new restrictions, there will only be a few garotos that will fit into his “exceptions” category. Then, Rodolfo proceeded to tell my friend’s friend that his (Rodolfo’s) priority is to solve the overcrowding of the small sauna. Therefore, he has yet another genius, Brainiac restriction. His new restriction: any very young garoto that does not look or act masculine cannot work at the new Espaço Lagoa sauna. If the garoto appears to be even slightly effeminate, they are evicted. Once again, like “good looking” and “old”, “masculine” and “feminine” appearing will be at the sole discretion of the business and marketing genius of Rodolfo. Thus, there are now two groups that are not allowed to work at the new, smaller Espaço Lagoa sauna: (1) garotos who are very young and effeminate or not masculine enough (according to Rodolfo), and (2) garotos who are 30 years of age and more — unless they are still “good-looking”, according only to Rodolfo, and only if he previously knew them, and he can confirm that they have very big dicks. Is he running a client-driven business, or his personal playground?1 point -
Hustlaball Berlin 2019
PopeFrancis reacted to Tartegogo for a topic
Wednesday night: I have just been in blue boy and toy boy in Berlin on or near Eisenacher Str., and I can tell you, there are some rent boys, but they are not attractive to me. I guess I have to try lab.oratory, or come back to these 2 bars on a Friday or Saturday, but if it is just the same, Berlin is not going to be my recommendation to find a cute guy for money. Also, the smoke!1 point -
Any Experience in India ?
williewillie reacted to TotallyOz for a topic
Having visited India over 20 times, I can say you will have no problem finding guys to hang with. There is a gay scene and gays are now more accepted than in the past. However, you may have trouble getting to them in all the traffic. Your chosen cities are enjoyable. I like Mumbai and the south.1 point -
Its in the Moonlight thread, its only recent, you may still find it, welcome!!!1 point
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Any Experience in India ?
AsianExplorer reacted to macaroni21 for a topic
"When we almost got arrested for being gay in Delhi" -- an alarming headline from one of Nomadic Boys' articles. Fortunately it explains that it was just a shakedown to get a bribe and anyway the law has changed since the incident in 2016. India is one of those places I have to go to for work and hardly ever get to see more of. I keep telling myself I should do a vacation there one day but have yet to get around to it. My sense is that the scene is not publicly accessible, you need to know someone to take you in. My brief glances at the apps however suggest that they are very active, but 2 hurdles: Outside of business and elite circles, English is much lass spoken than we might otherwise assume. I also believe the guys on the apps would have difficulties hosting you since most Indians live with their families. A couple of years ago, I made a side trip from Mumbai (where I was on business) to Kerala for a long weekend (not quite a vacation by my standards). Freed from the constraints of scheduling, I could wander around in a more relaxed way and noticed that here and there people were cruising. Mostly, I remained no more than a distant observer, though on two occasions I became prey. One was at a ferry terminal where a guy spotted me looking at a bunch of very good looking young men monkeying around. This guy figured out my interest and started to make a move on me. Unfortunately, it was a very public place (a busy ferry landing) and he didn't seem anywhere near my type, so it went no further. Another cruising incident (I think the very same afternoon or the next day) was at a temple! Once again, not truly my type, and I was too far from my hotel to even consider taking him back with me. I also had two massages while in the beach towns of Kerala. I had nothing but massage in mind, but as is my usual practice, I looked only for massage places where the service-provider was male. These were quite common. On both occasions, the masseur progressed to handjobs but remained fully clothed. The first time, I didn't want to go too far to tug away his clothing, not being familiar with the rules of the game, so to speak. The second time I tugged. But he resisted, so that was that. In short, nothing like Thailand. I think India must be seen as one of those countries (like most countries in the world) where sexual interest cannot be a major reason for going otherwise you'll be disappointed. If it happens, it's a bonus.1 point -
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Yes, Watt is the rightmost boy, he was included there so that both boys in the end are cute, lol1 point
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COME ON!! What Puritans some of you Guys have become... So it is OK to talk about an Off having a Huge Cock that almost split open his Ass Hole, but it is not OK to suggest that an Off has a Small Cock. Worse things have been posted here. I do agree that posting an Offs pic without his permission is not being considerate. But does the OP need a Signed Release from the Guy???1 point
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Nov 2019 - report 5: recommending Watt
18past19 reacted to daydreamer for a topic
When someone takes the time to write trip reports or otherwise share their experiences, a few people like to criticize their choices because they don't agree. Whether it be the boy they chose for the night, the hotel they stayed in, or how much they paid for a tip to a boy, or a tip to a waiter or mama-san, a few people seem to delight in condemning the original poster by either "correcting" the writer or otherwise humiliating them for the choices they made. I have seen this many times, most recently with Vinapu's trip reports being criticized over prices he paid and tips he gave, and now 12is12's reports are going through the same wringer. "That boy is not handsome, too old", or "You paid too much" are really uncalled for and unwelcome. Would you say that to the person at the next table in a bar when another customer offs a boy or gives a tip? If every time someone writes a recommendation, or takes the time to report about their good times and adventures, and then their words are picked apart by the vultures, I believe the trip reports and other useful suggestions will stop being posted. Perhaps the critics can share some of their own reports of their experiences with us since you know best? Personally, I appreciate the time and effort people put into reporting their adventures. I believe the information is useful to many readers who may not spend a lot of time in Thailand every year. The bars they visited, amounts tipped, the hotels and restaurants, prices paid, transportation taken, etc are enlightening and helpful to many of the members of this board. Continued criticism and derision will only dissuade others from sharing their honest thoughts. Now it seems there is interest in making a private club to share information. This will further serve to remove from this board the incentive to freely share information here. Discussion of the reports and recommendations is expected of course, but when it insults and offends the person willing to share their stories, it only deters them from further reporting. I sometimes feel bad for the original posters because of the rude manner in which their posts are treated. I suspect that if this trend of harsh critiques of recommendations continues, this board will slowly fade into irrelevance as posters will find other less hostile places to share their personal thoughts and experiences.1 point -
Excatly . I find him too old , rough looking and certainly straight( a big turn off for me), Everyone has its own taste so it's better to choose by yourself and not to rely on other recommendations.1 point
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you (and others) find him good looking, I honestly (no offence to anyone, including the guy) find him ugly (with or without beard). I only say this to highlight how pointless it is to swap recommendations here (unless the people involved already know the other's tastes well). But nothing wrong with sharing experiences of course1 point
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it's not just the Asian guys, haven't you noticed beards have been a global fashion trend in the last 3-5 years or so? I'm NO fan of that AT ALL, either!1 point
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Good to see some Pics of the Man! Thanks But too bad he has a Hairy Face!! What is it with all these Asian guys? Even in the Philippines many guys I chat with on PlanetRomeo now have beards or mustache.1 point
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Japan, Taipei, Vietnam, Philippines and Cambodia Aug-Sep 14 report
AlexThompson reacted to GoldMember for a topic
So after reporting about BKK and Pattaya (http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/9706-brief-report-pattaya-bkk/) I will now report about the rest of my trip. Pattaya and BKK were my last destinations in what I refer to as my big Asia trip. Now I will start reporting chronologically starting with Japan and Taipei. This trip started as me and my BF's honeymoon after getting married at the end of July. In total contradiction to the rest of my trip this part of the trip was entirely pre-planned. All flights, trains, accommodations were pre-booked. I don't like pre-planning too much but in Japan being spontaneous means spending more and we wanted to save as much money as we can since Japan is not cheap. Some advice for Japan travelers: 1. In the big cities (i.e Tokyo, Osaka) book from airbnb. Half the price of hotels, three times more spacious. Hotels can get really expensive there. 2. If you are planning to travel long distances, most likely a japanrail pass will be better to pre-purchase. Be advised that it can only be purchased and delivered outside of Japan soil. There are some sites that you can calculate if the pass is worth purchasing. Usually it is. 3. In contradiction to all other Asian countreis i'v been, a local SIM is expensive. A better option is to purchase a pocket WIFI. I purchased one that we both were connected to it at all times at the cost of 80 USD for 15 days. Sounds expensive but the other alternatives are worse. We are internet junkies so no internet is not a option. Especially in Japan where English is not well spoken at all and maps and Google were most helpful. The device is sent to your hotel and returned at any mailbox (including the airport). 4. Japan is expensive. But, it's reputation is as super expensive is wrong. It's exactly the same as London, Paris etc... 5. Landing and departing from different Airports (i.e. landing in Osaka and departing from Tokyo) is a more efficient way to travel the country. 6. Travel light. Lots of moving in train stations with stairs makes moving around more hassle with large suitcases. Kyoto - We stayed there 3 nights at the Citadines Karasuma Gojo hotel (160USD a night). This hotel is relatively fair price for Japan and since we didn't find a nice apartment we stayed there. Room was spacious and location was 30 seconds walk from a subway (Although not central enough - but prices double as location gets more central). This city is very touristic and everyone goes there to visit the shrines. After 2 days of shrines we got fed up of them and decided that's enough shrines for us (so we passed on day trips in Nara and Nikko). City is nice but for urban creatures like us it was a bit boring and retrospectively I would have booked there 2 nights only. Things not to miss (except shrines which i'm sure u won't miss): beautiful bamboo forest, monkey mountain with adorable monkeys and a city viewpoint. Not a lot of action going in the city - some on Grindr and jacked and mostly tourists or faraway people. Had dinner and fun with one couple in their hotel room which was way better then ours but more expensive as well (330USD a night!). After midnight we didn't find any gay or non gay interesting places to go to. Osaka (2 nights) - In some manner it resembles Tokyo. It has it's unique urban charterer and we enjoyed that city and wish we had one more night over there. We arrived on Sunday so nights were slower. Gay Osaka listings have quite an amount of places but when we went to the gay area it was quite empty (Sunday and Monday eves). My worst mistake is that I successfully managed to drag my BF into a gay sauna for the first time in his life but choosing Osaka's Hokuoukan Sauan on a Monday eve wasn't a good first experience for him. Sauna was not full of people and mostly thin Japanese guys which is not our type. Sauna's in Japan are different in a weird way. No private cabins and it seems to me that there is less action there but again - it was a Monday night (same feeling in Tokyo's Sauna in nichome). We did have some fun with one guy but it was still one of the worst i'v been to. Don't miss: Osaka's castle and the Aquarium (the most impressive i'v seen so far). Stayed there in a nice Airbnb apartment (70 USD a night). Hiroshima (1 night) - This place was not on our way but it's worth a visit. The peace park is impressive and the museum is interesting, terrible and a bit prone. Miyajima Island that is near Hiroshima is one of the most beautiful places we've toured in Japan. We stayed Urbain Hiroshima Central Hotel (100 USD) with a good location and a tiny room. So small that if u wanna open the suitcase u need to put it on the bed. No problem with a joiner we had in our room at night. At night we started walking the city and accidentally went into a gay bar (D&M). Only us, another foreign couple and one local old guy. The entire situation was really funny and we all Kareok'ed together with English pop songs until it was late. Tokyo (8 nights) - This city is awesome!!! Excatly what I expected it to be. Half western, half eastern and half unique (yes there is a third half lol). Don't miss: - Visiting Harajuku fashion district for crazy unwearable Japanese fashion. - visiting the fish market and the Tuna auctions. Arrive a little before 4AM cause they let only 120 visitors a day. We arrived straight from a party at 4:10 AM and we were number 116 and 117 to go in. Eat fresh Sushi for breakfast there. - Watching hundreds of people crossing Shibuya junction at evening. - We went on a day trip to Fuji-Q park. There is a bus that takes u there and a bundle price with entry ticket (70 USD). The roller coasters there were one of the craziest we ever did. I also pre booked tickets to Lady Gaga's concert (250 USD premium ticket). Pre booking concert tickets in Japan is hard and there are some middlemen who do that and deliver them for a certain fee. The Japanese have a reputation of being crazy. We didn't see that much - but in that concert we saw that and more! Everyone went insane at the front rows (even 60 YO men who knew the words better then I did and tried to get closer to the stage). That experience was insane and fun. We also decided to have one expensive honeymoon dinner. I researched online and ordered seats to the Tapas Molecular Bar in the Mandarin Oriental (150USD without drinks and service). Really unique dinner where they cook everything in front of you and use really weird and cool methods and products. Rest of the food we usually went to cheap local restaurants cause the food in Japan is really good and clean almost everywhere you go. Now on to gay Tokyo. Gay Tokyo is concentrated in a small neighborhood called Shinjuku ni-chome. Un-coincidentally, our very nice and cool apartment (80 USD a night) was located 8 minutes walk from there. As I said, apartments are a cheaper and better option in Tokyo - and also no problem at all with joiners since it's just a private apartment. Every night we went out to dance and drink at that area. All the gay listings explain that there are places for Japanese only and places that are foreign friendly. We went to the same 3 main places: The Annex, Arty Farty and Dragon men as they seemed the most crowded and popular. Weekend was crazy and all places were full till 5 AM. Midweek was more quiet and at 2AM usually the place dies. Arty Farty starts early at about 10AM and u have to buy a drink at the entrance (My preferred drink, Campari and Grapefruit juice was 7 USD). The more younger crowd goes there - not me and my BF's preference but still good music, nice crowd. We picked up a young hot Italian kid there one nights. We preferred the other places since crowd was older and they were open late. Place closes at 1AM. Good thing about Arty Farty is that it's the same owner as Annex and if you have a stamp then you can enter Annex without buying a drink. Annex is, in our opinion, more fun. Crowd is more mature and mixed half Japanese and half international. Most of our hook-ups were from that place (or Grindr). Local Japanese guys were a little hard to figure out at the beginning. They can play really hard to get and they are very shy. In addition, for some of them, the fact that we are a couple and having sex with others was hard to understand. But, after figuring them out a bit, and being more straightforward with them, they were fun as well. Didn't encounter any weird kinky Japanese guys just normal fun. Though one was really submissive in a way we have never experienced before which was super fun. Some of the Japanese are interested only in Japanese. I didn't encounter this phenomena anywhere else in Asia. It's the only time I saw racism working the opposite way since everywhere else I saw lots of Caucasians that state they are not into Asians but not the other way around. Even so, there are tons of Japanese that are interested in Caucasians and hookups are relatively easy to find comparing to any other city we have been to. After 8 crazy days and nights we went for our final weekend to Taipei, Taiwan. This city was probably the biggest surprise of our trip. But first, a warning, all 3 Island countries i'v been to: Japan, Taipei, Philippines demand that you show them a plane ticket out of their country. Actually they demand it at the checkin counter of the flight so what happened to me in Tokyo's airport (and later on in Siagon's) is that I had book on the spot on my mobile the next ticket. Try to avoid that situation since the stress and lack of time may cause you to book something too expensive or unconvenient. We stayed 2 nights together at the Inhouse hotel in Taipei (140 USD a night). A very gay friendly and well located hotel. Room was big, clean and nice. We wanted to finish our honeymoon in a more luxury hotel and this one suited us. Taipei is much cheaper then Japan but not even close to Thailand's prices. Exactly in between. But what was surprising for us, is that Taipei is SUPER GAY and super sexy. Taipei guys were much more muscular than any other Asian nationality i'v encountered, what made hooking up there much more fun and variety was amazing. Nothing prepared me to the Sauna experience there. Lots of bars near the red house that are all gay and nice. We also went one night dancing at G-Start which was really cool - nice shows and good music. Place has the same structure as NAB i'v mentioned in my Pattaya post. Don't miss in Taipei: Night market - tons of people and better quality of products then other places in Asia. Tower 101 - Tallest tower in the world until 2000 and something. There is a super cheap one Michelin start (!) restaurant in the tower. 20USD for both of us! Electronics - Taipei is electronics heaven. If you wanna buy a smartphone, it's probably the cheapest in Taiwan. We compared prices to US and also to home and they are cheaper over there. After 17 days together we split since my BF had to return home and could not continue with me to Vietnam. I stayed one last night in Taipei before my flight to Hanoi. After we split I wanted to check 2 places I read online about: XXL gym and Aniki WOW. These are gay sauna's and after our experiences in Japan I knew the chances of us going together were relatively low so I went there alone. XL Club (13 USD)- The place has the reputation of being a blend of a gym and a Sauna. I saw 1 guy using the gym and about 30 in the sauna lol. Place was fun and most of the crowd are Asian muscle Daddys (which I fancy). But if I would have known how the next Sauna will be I wouldn't spend there a minute and surly wouldn't cum there. It's a nice fun and sexy place but incomparable to what happened at the next one. Aniki WOW (World Of Wonders) - And a World of Wonders it is. This place moved and was renovated and reopened 10 days before I got there. Price was high - One lifetime membership fee of 33 USD and a one time entrance fee of 10 USD. Even if the price doubles and i'm there again - I'll pay it. I got there straight from XL club probably at 8PM. I thought that i'll just stay for a couple of hours and then go and find a hotel for the night. Already at the locker room I noticed a few things: everybody is 20-40 years old, most of them are really fit or muscular, the place it self is clean. The facility is super cool - entrance floor has open showers and steam room and basement floor has cabins. maze and dark room. This sounds like a normal sauna - well it isn't! Everything is decorated high-tech and modern, super clean and very sexy lighting and music. But forget about the facility, cause that is not what is amazing about that place (well at least not the best thing about it). The best thing about that place is the young hot Taipei guys that come there. I was there on a Saturday evening and it was crowded with probably 300 guys that were mostly young, muscular. At first I thought that the odds of me having sex with some of them are low since some of them are really super hot. But at that night I discovered what I rediscovered again in every country i'v been next in Asia - my stocks here are higher then home. Much higher. Apparently my cock which at home is considered average(+) here is huge. And for some reason my beard which at home is standard, here is super sexy. I can go on but U got the point. It's so funny how what is in one place is standard in another place is unique and desired. Sexually speaking, this was the best night of my life. That place was like a candy store. I just took whoever I wanted and fucked him (safe. I maybe a whore but i'm not an idiot). I never felt more desired in my life which was really confusing and intoxicating (but got used to it really quick lol). I fucked probably 5 guys over there, got BJ's from I don't know how much men and came 3 times (this is after stupidly cumming in XL club). At a certain point, while fucking a guy, they put "Happy People" of my favorite DJ, Offer Nissim, and indeed happy people we were there. Good loud electronic background music all the time. That was the only night in my life that the reason I stopped is that I could not function anymore. If someone would have offered me Viagara I would surely try it just to keep on going and grab as much candy as I can. I left that place at 4 AM and it was still packed. I then realized that I didn't eat for about 12 hours and that I'm starving. LOL. Shocked and Happy I took a taxi to my previous hotel just to take the luggage from storage and continue to the airport and to find out that I do not have a flight reservation to Hanoi. But I'll continue this (and other countries) in a couple of days. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to write about our and my trip, it sure is nice to recall all the nice adventures we had.1 point -
Japan, Taipei, Vietnam, Philippines and Cambodia Aug-Sep 14 report
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Continuing my Vietnam report. After barely making it on time to the flight, I landed at Da Nang Airport. I had to choose between Da Nang and Na Trang where to spend my 3 days of central Vietnam. I choose Da Nang because I also wanted to see Hoi An but some guys in Saigon told me that Na Trang is better. I didn't even consider staying in Da Nang and booked 2 nights at Ha An Hotel in Hoi An (60USD). Choosing Hoi An was the recommendations I got in the Israeli travelers forum. In my opinion, Da Nang is a better place to stay and go for day trip(s) to Hoi An and not the other way around (will explain why). My hotel was great. I arrived at 10AM and they gave me free breakfast and an early check in. Room was more than I expected especially for 3 starts. Taxi ripped me off. It seemed like a good taxi at first but the meter was fixed so I ended up paying 600000 VND instead of 400000 which is the regular price (10$ difference). I am still not sure how I could have prevented it. HoiAn is a charming city. Nice markets, lots of tailor shops and good restaurants. Too much tourists in the city but it's not too bad. Most of the people I talked to regarding Hoi An mentioned that they did really good tailoring over there. I was less successful. Too many catalogs and options made me dizzy and unable to choose. Some people told me that it is necessary to come there already with an idea of the desired tailored clothes. This city also is a relatively quite one. A good estimate for a city's Gayness is to check how many people are on Grindr in the city area. Here it was about 10. The 11th was already from Da Nang. First night I had dinner and fun with another Top from HK. We searched for a proper bottom for the night but in Hoi An there were no good options. It kind of felt like we were "The only Gay in the village" (my favorite British comedy). The day after I took a really cool cooking class (40USD). It's the one that is rated the no1 attraction in TripAdvisor (Green Bamboo cooking class). I never cook at home nor will I start now but it was really a fun and interesting experience. Day started with a market tour to purchase products and then continued at the guides home where everybody (8 ppl) started cooking the chosen dished and of course tasted everything. At the end of it all (9AM – 4PM) I was so full I really couldn't eat until the next day. After cooking class I decided it's my time to explore Da Nang. I rented a motorcycle (8 USD). This was the only place in Vietnam I rented a motorcycle because doing that in Saigon or Hanoi is just suicide. Here it's just a half Suicidal. LOL. It's about a 40 minute drive on the scooter to Da Nang and I enjoyed it very much. Weather was really good (or so I thought). After exploring Da Nang for a couple of hours I came to the conclusion that I am sleeping in the wrong city. This city is much more vivid, vibrant, better beaches and gayer. I realized I had 2 options for that night in Da Nang. The first was a cute muscular 43yo Japanese guy on vacation in a nice resort with some friends and the second was a 24yo Vietnamese guy that looked like a porn star or underwear model in his pictures. After my Hanoi experiences with the locals I decided to take the option I felt was more fun and genuine and went on to the Japanese guy's resort. If I would have known how genuine and hot the other guy is I surly would have picked him. Luckily for me, I will discover him in Saigon. The Japanese guy's resort (son tra resort and spa) was more distant and was very fancy with a private villa and pool and also a private beach. He was there with 2 female friends vacationing. About 5 minutes before I got there it started raining like hell while I was on the scooter. I didn't have a rain coat and after 1 minute of driving in insane rain I was totally wet. I found shelter for 5 minutes until it stopped and got to his villa being entirely wet from head to toe but it was kinda funny. A minute before I entered he texted me that his female friends don't know he is gay and that he told them I was a friend coming. That seemed really weird but I played along. After the 4 of us spending time at the pool and the sea as well we went to his room for some Jacuzzi and bed fun. In the morning I told him that if he thinks that after this night and his moanings that his friends still thinks he is straight he is naïve. He agreed but said that he does not want to talk to them about it (he is 43yo! But I guess for Japanese it can be harder…). Well I had a really passionate and fun time with him. At morning I got back on my scooter, went to Da Nand beach for a while and then to eat what is considered the world's best Banh Mi at Bánh Mi Phương. Don't know if it's the best but it was indeed really good. Went to pack and to take my noon flight to Saigon (60USD). I originally planned to continue to Cambodia from Da Nang. But, I decided to shorten my Cambodian stay in favor of what every Viet guy advised me to do – and that is to visit Saigon. I arrived to Saigon at Independence Day evening. I booked 2 nights at Nikko hotel (100 USD) which is too fancy and too nice for my needs. I went out to the streets and lots of crowd out strolling the streets and some shows in the parks for the holiday. A guy from Jacked came to meet me at the park. Too young for me (22yo) but he was cute so we went to see the fireworks together. After that he took me a bit on his scooter around the city. This city is so different then Hanoi – in a good way. Much more western and capitalist. At the end of the night he took me to eat really tasty weird street food – hard boiled egges that tasted like they were cooked for ages with lots of spices. I really liked it. He said he took me there cause after I eat that my cum will taste better. LOL. Went to my room for the night and had a good and fun night together. Morning was a bit weird. I assumed that that’s it and he wanted to spend the next night with me again. He was a little melodramatic regarding that (that’s why I usually avoid young guys) and instead of just ignoring it I agreed for one last night. I was surprised that he managed to make agree. Oh well. At noon I went to the war Museum. That place was really hard for me. Agent Orange and it's casualties were new for me. I was really shocked by some of the pictures and stories there. I know it's only the Vietnamese side but still what is shown there is horrible. I wonder how is it for Americans to go there. I remember walking there and imagining myself one day walking in Gaza's war museum. I wondered how I would feel facing pictures of my government's war crimes. I try to protest against these crimes nowadays but most of my countries' citizens think they we are innocent. That is so naïve. Anyway, this was indeed an intense experience for me. Espacially because during that day we were still at war at home. Had to sleep after that place just to relax. At night, same guy took me to a really cool place: Chill SkyBar. Very trendy with a really good DJ, really loud electronic music and mostly foreign crowd. There I witnessed for the first time a really cool thing that I saw also in clubs in Manila and Pattaya – Bottle saving. The young guy I was with had a bottle he previously bought and did not finish just waiting at the bar for him from his last time there. Didn't see that before. We were really drunk and he wanted to go to my hotel on his bike. I refused and we took a taxi and had a nice night and morning together. No drama at morning and I think he knew that was it for us. I wanted to spend one more night in Saigon but staying in that hotel seemed to be like a waste if money. I switched to Eden Saigon (60 USD) and even got upgraded in the room. No problem with joiners (neither in Nikko). Very nice hotel. I went to the market. Nothing interesting to buy. Got a message from the too hot guy I decided not to go with in Da Nang. Apparently he lives in Saigon and was on vacation with his family in Da Nang. He sent me more of his pics and then I started realizing he might be even hotter then I previously imagined. I was still not sure so I wanted to meet him for drinks before. After realizing we both want to go to the gym – he offered to pick me up from the hotel after work and take me to his gym. After first seeing him I knew I hit the Jackpot. This was the hottest guy I have ever been with. He took me to California Gym at District 4. That place is one of the best I've seen – compared to the US and home (Best Iv'e seen so far was in Phnom Penh). Also this place is really gay and I'm sure there is action going there in the locker room and sauna. After pumping up for an hour he took us back to my hotel. Fucking him was amazing. It was a mind game between me and my self not to get too excited and cum. The surprising thing was that his cock was also huge which a refreshing sight in Asia was. After cumming we showered together I wanted to fuck him again but after fucking him and the guy at morning I couldn't get hard in a condom again. That was the moment I decided that I want to get somehow Viagra just in case I meet someone that is worth it I can fuck him all night. Never tried Viagara before and wasn't sure how to get it. Luckily in Cambodia you can get it in the pharmacies off the counter (details in Cambodia's report). We went to dinner. By what he eats, I realized how obsessed he is about his body. Well, he is so well maintained that it does come only with hard work. His looks and cock is just luck J At night I decided that this is my time to leave Vietnam. My original plan was to leave for Cambodia. But, the next day was Friday and after not clubbing at all in Vietnam I was not sure Cambodia would offer me a nice place to club for the weekend. In order to decide where to go I used FakeGPS. FakeGPS is an android app that allows you to fool Grindr adn Jacke'd into thinking you are anywhere you want. Me and BF bought new phones in Taipei (and got rid of our old IPhones – which does not allow fakeGPS). That way I was able to talk to people and get an estimate of the good places. I know Jack'd allows you to explore other places but this way people think you are actually there and they also contact you (and I also prefer Grindr which does not have this option). Actually it's FakeGPS that got me a nice hotel room in Phnom Penh in a really good rate (details in Cambodia's report). My second option besides PP was Manila. After talking to locals in Manila and Phnom Penh, I decided to shorten my stay in Cambodia even more and to spend the week in the Philippines. I booked a flight to Gay Manila (112 USD) and the next day checked out at noon and went to the Airport. I also decided to have a more relaxed week in the Philippines and to cut down the guys and sex and spend more time sightseeing. This decision lasted only two and a half hours after landing in Manila. LOL.1 point