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Day 2 - Settling into a routine Right after my guy left, i went back to bed for a nap. woke up close to lunch time, walked to my fav pad thai saladang behind silom complex for a cheap 50bht shrimp pad thai. Today's plan is to go for Prime massage so after lunch, went to Prime to book a massage, and was told to wait 1 hour or so, so i went back to hotel for a bit of rest. Came back 15min earlier than scheduled booking and they are ready to begin my massage. Due to my now mildly sprained ankle, i chose 1 hour foot massage followed by 2 hour oil body massage. Asked if i can choose my masseur from the ipad and she said yes, and told me later after the foot massage. Foot massage was great, done by cute slim masseur but still gave good strength, that i wished he would continue with the body part. But alas, one of the lady bring the ipad to me instead to choose the next masseur and i chose one that looks manly, slightly bigger arm hehe. As always, Prime delivers. this time, no mention of HE but the massage it self gets pretty sensual at some point. Feeling very refreshed, i checked the time and it is close to 5.30pm. Today is Friday and one of my mission on this trip is to check out Sauna Mania O party which starts around 8-8.30pm. So i figured i would go there early to chill and see the eye candy before it gets busy. The foot massage was indeed great as i walked to sauna mania without issue, and the only issue with my legs are the stairs inside the sauna. The place is not hard to find, there is a rainbow flag, or sticker nearby the entrance, which doesnt look like an entrance to a sauna at all, but rather like an entrance to an office. Took me a while to ensure that it is indeed the entrance and i made my way in. Inside, there is the counter and ticket price shown 360bht due to O party. Paid the entrance fee, given locker key, towels, condom and lubes. Went to the locker to undress and started to explore the sauna on my own. The place are already busy with customers when i arrived. There is a gym, shower area, steam, sauna, open air lounge area to seat and lay down on the 3rd floor, the first floor u get to up from the locker. Dark room or should i say dark floor is the whole 2nd floor but to go there u first need to go to the third floor, and take a different stairs to go down. On 4th floor is the Roof Top area where the supposed O party will be held, where few beds, seats, lounge and something looks like a makeshift stage in the middle of the area. Sauna is really not my scene. I prefer the privacy and comfort of the bedroom, and the idea of going around naked trying to find the guy you like and wonder if they like u back is not my idea of a relaxing vacation. But I dont mind trying everything once just to ensure i didnt miss anything. And having read report regarding O party before, I think this is something unique that not many other sauna ive been to have this kind of event. Anyway, I did venture to the dark room, and had some fun there. It was at least 6-7 bodies squeeze together in a small alleyway with hands moving around in the darkness. I only like one guy there and he dont mind me carressing his body so all is well for a light fun. Its when i started to step on some liquid (which i believe to be cum) and not long after, felt some liquid dropped on my shoulder (this is for sure cum) that i felt so disgusted and make my way out of the dark room and into the shower, never to return to the dark room lol. There are few stunners just standing around near the lighted area of the dark room, some with muscle, good looking face, talk model-like, and with huge appendages attached. Not until much later i found out that these are hired models for the O party, arriving early to have fun in the dark room. Moving on to the O party, I went up to 4th floor to chill and relax and at 8pm, employees asked all on this floor to go down as they need to prepare for the O party. Once they are ready, all of the customers go up and take spots around the stage in the middle. I lost count on how many people are there but if i care to venture a guess, it'll be more than 200 naked guys, 60% are in the fit category mainly asian. 10-12 models with erected penis are now on stage, and the announcer/mc started to introduce them. I am not good with crowd, even when its 100% naked gay guy crowd lol. but i did manage to touch few of the models, and at least get my worht of the entrance fee hehe. Soon enough, some of the models started to give each other hj, Bj, and not long after, at least two pair were having full on anal sex and they started to disperse from the stage to one of the many beds. I didnt stay long after that, and im pretty sure customer are allowed to join, but not sure how it works. Anyway, all of this happened in the span of 15min from the start, as im out of the sauna close to 8.50pm, 20min after the even starts. It is really an eye opening experience for me, much wilder than what u see in the bar and no annoying asking for tips by the models. While it is not my scene, i can totally understand why so much people like this kind of party. Tonight I plan to meet with ggobkk. We have been exchanging text and agreed to meet outside hotmale bar at 9:30pm. I told him about my sauna mania adventures and we both chat for a while before decided to move to lucky boys. We arrived before the show so we got to see the boy on stage. It was close to 50 boys total, impressive number, and with the exception of 1 or 2 boy, the rest are of similar quality and build, slim twink, with some slightly build with lean body. I recognized some of the boys, but cant pinpoint where i saw them. Mamasan lucy was quick to grab ggobkk and of course also pressuring me to get a boy. Not long afer, one boy came to our table, and i immediately recognize him, as i took him long time before in screwboys, and it turns out, he also a favorite of ggobkk. Its funny to see when two forum member who have totally different type actually shared an interest with the same boy. I told ggobkk that another member, vinapu had also express interest in this boy so i guess this boy is really special lol. Needless to say, without delay, ggobkk off the boy and say his goodbye to me, while since its my first time in this new bar, i wanted to stay to watch the show. The show was ok, lots of ladyboy shows but some of the twink dancers are actually cute. Mamasan Lucy from time to time ask me to pick a boy, but i dont see one that i really want, some are borderline though but night is still young or maybe i already had some fun at the sauna that im not too horny that i needed to pick one boy regardless. So after the show ends, I leave the place and walked to Jupiter at soi 4. When arrived, asked the staff at the door and they said show just finished, so i changed plan and walked back to Moonlight to see if i can catch the midnight show. While walking towards moonlight small alley, i saw one particularly hunky and cute boy in street cloth walking away from moonlight with a rather large asian girl and it was the famous, often adored here, Babe. Seeing him leaving moonlight made me think again whether i should still go inside, as moonlight show without babe is like watching Oprah without Oprah. Feeling a bit tired and second guessing my horniness for the second time tonight, i decided to retire early, without offing anyone. I did went to the pharmacy and buy a bandage with an ice pack for the leg before returning to the hotel and sleep. In my mind, I'll have to compensate tonight lack of boy tomorrow starting with an early visit to arena hehe.

I'll post it here rather than post it privately. In Sao Paulo, I visited Lagoa Sao Paulo. I was not ready for this place. It was crowded with hot guys all over the place. When I say hot guys, I mean HOT guys! Relaxed nudity by many of the guys advertising their body. most of the showers were out in the open and it seemed as if the guys needed little excuse to shower out in the open. I don't like it when there is so much choice because its impossible for me to make a choice. I was rescued by a tall, dark guy offering to show me around. The place was bigger then I expected and my new guide led me around the place. As we made our way around some guys would say something but I didn't know if they were talking to me or my guide. When my guide showed me the 2nd floor, he dropped his towel, backed me into a corner and frenched kissed me. I'm shy so I pushed him away halfheartedly and he grabbed my wrists, placed them over my head before directing my hands to his erection. I should say his big erection. There was nothing I could do with his big, thick uncut dick. And as far as screwing me, I have to think about the next guy and his cock was too big. I also am not a fan of facial hair and he had too much of it. Too much facial hair and too much cock. He wanted me to get a suite with promises of fucing me in every position. I just giggled and told him I was just looking around. He snatched off my towel, spun me around and he was frenching my ass. I broke our contact and told him I can't. He grabbed my hand and put it on his cock and asked if he could just put the head in. Keep in mind his english is not that good and I was about to pull turn on my phone translator till his finger entered me and he said the crown or tip or something when I finally understood. I told him I can't and that I didn't bring enough money. He suggested I pay him whatever I wanted after the sex. I told him to follow me to my locker. He followed me but would not enter the locker area. I fished out a 50 real note to give to him. He ignored the money and went back to seduction mode but I was able to slip away. Everytime a guy would talk to me, he would seem to be watching or just looking. Later in the night, I was wondering around and my guide friend stopped me and asked for 50 reals for us to have fun together. I declined with a smile and we moved away from each other. I met another guy that dreams are made of. He was the guy my mind imagines when I jerk off and I have to imagine a guy... This would be the guy but there were so many guys of my dreams there that I didn't want to commit to him. We found a corner and were french kissing. I am not a fan of kissing but I went with the flow. our towels are on the floor and once again my ass is getting french kissed. My guide friend found us... I had the 2nd guy follow me to my locker area and fished out 50 reals for him. We went to the bar and shared a drink. My guide friend was now dressed and came over to say goodbye but offered to stay if I wanted him to. Guy #2 went to get dressed and he was even hotter in clothes then he was in a towel. I went to walk around some more and was pulled into a side room. I think it was a bathroom. The guy that pulled me into the room was a guy that had to be a body builder. He was in speedos and pulled out his big cock and layed it in my hand as it quickly grew hard and thick and asked me if I liked it. I did but it was getting late and I decided to head back to my hotel. When I got back to the hotel, I invited a college guy I was talking to on Grindr. He came over and we had what I would call rough sex. With these guys hung so large I need to lean how to say "Wait, Hold on, Stop a minute and take it out" in Portuguese. Otherwise it will just be rough sex with them forcing it in. I went to bed a little sore and 150 reals poorer. The next night at Lagoa I saw my guide friend again and he made his offer of doing everything to me. I came back with what I thought was my best way to say no without saying no. I told him I was a cheap-skate as I smiled and walked away. bumped into the #2 guy from yesterday and we went to the got a drink and talked a little. He was so hot in his towel but other hot guys were sitting around in towels. One guy was sitting across from me. His legs were open in my direction and his towel parted just enough. His cock hung down between his legs resting on the seat with the head almost draped over the edge. It would have been a perfect porn magazine shot. I wondered just how big it got. There was too much action and eye candy for me to focus on guy #2 so I got up and walked around. I flirted with a few guys and when my guide friend stopped me and told me we could have sex and I would not need to pay him anything. How do you say no to that without hurting his feelings? The best I could do was tell him I just came there to flirt and relax, no sex. He took that answer and we parted. I took a seat in the back section, past the lockers for the guys and near the TV. when HE showed up. I was kinda looking at the TV while looking at the guys walking by when one guy with a very tight body stopped as if he was interested in the TV screen. He opened his towel to re-adjust it but all I saw was his long dick. He just stood there giving me time to take in his body. His body reminded me of a Lion or Panther in his prime, lean, tight, built for endurance... I thought I was checking him out but he was hunting me. He turned and walked over to me and asked if he could sit with me and made himself comfortable. His english was not so good, I pulled out my phone to translate for us but he wanted to do it in english. Later he told me he wants to go to Thailand, I didn't ask why. As we talked we slowly moved closer. As we talked more in english and using my phone, he slid closer and pulled my leg over his leg and began to massage my thigh. While his hands massaged my my leg, his dick grew hard was tapping at my theigh. before long my skin was painted with pre-cum and he apologized but I didn't care. We then used the translation app to talk about sex, that went to what was the wildest sex we ever had and that went to what was the kinkiest sex we ever had and then we talked about what we would like to do to each other. Next thing I know we are entering a suite and we didn't finish there. We decided to take the fun back to my room and as we were leaving we passed my guide friend. When we got back to my hotel we did everything I ever wanted to try in sex and he was eager to please. Too eager and too ready to use that big dick of his. After about the 3rd orgasm I was ready for him to leave. I had to pack and be at the airport in the morning and my rear was tired and needed a rest. He was not done, it's about 4am and he is in the nude performing a fighting type dance. Then he wants to teach me some dance moves and that turns to touching and him trying to push me on the bed. When I would not get into position he decides head would good enough for im giving head but my mind was telling me this was going to take forever. His cock was too big, my jaw hurt, my butt hurt, I was sleepy, Everytime he starts to get dressed something happens and we are having sex again. After a while I stopped trying and just relaxed hoping he would loose interest in an unresponsive mouth. No such luck. The choking, gagging, slobbering and whimpering seemed to turn him to the point of him rising up on his toes for another orgasm. I was getting turned on again but I couldn't take anymore. I gave him 150 Reals plus a $5 US note. We exchanged numbers on whatsapp and kissed goodbye. Once he left I jerked off remembering our sex and went to sleep.

So many great reports convinced me it was time for a return visit. Always enjoy meeting other forum members.

Yeah, you can meet hotter guys and pay less in Brazil and bar drinks in Brazil are cheaper than Thailand. I look at Thailand as being gay Disney Land and Brazil as being a gay discount mall offering quality at discounts without the party feel of Thailand.

Vinapu, with your permission I'd like to philosophize about this beyond BKK gaytown or sex. I believe your position reflects one of the PC commandments of our era: Thou Shall NOT be Judgemental! I adhere to this commandment regarding lifestyles / choices / preferences / opinions / etc. I do not adhere to it when somebody is ethically / morally / criminally wrong. It's one thing when a boy/escort isn't his best; it's quite another when he turns out to be a fake/fraud or dishonest or with a character/attitude that's obviously not temporary. Examples: a guy who goes back on his promises, a guy who keeps nagging for money, a guy who comes up with excuses to cut the session short, etc. I think it's our duty to warn, so other prospective patrons wouldn't fall prey, and so the boy learns the hard way. "Do unto others..." - you would want to be warned about such guys; why not warn others? Of course such a review should be factual and respectful, and of course each reader would draw his own conclusions. Same same goes for accolades and recommendations: your fellow men here would like to hear about FANTASTIC guys, and these boys deserve free positive publicity. (-:

I have worked with so many physically beautiful people (still do), the concept of "love at first sight" escapes me. I hate bars. I especially hate their smell. So the thought of anyone falling in love in one makes me want to vomit. I've experienced "love at first sight" hundreds of times through the years. I can say without hesitation it's the most boring, shallow love I've found. Fine for one day, maybe two, depending on the mind and personality of the individual. "Love" based on looks, cock size, or hot sex is the cheapest form of love there is. When it comes to love, the last kind I want is cheap. Too many people have no idea what real love is. They often think it's something they've seen in movies or read in a book. Love is their fantasy. Too many gay guys are desperate to feel "love," however they define it. They confuse love with lust, and most lust is selfish, which is the furthest thing from love. Many guys are too selfish to ever discover true love in their life. The last thing I look for in an escort is love. The idea of paying someone for "love" makes me laugh out loud. If I had a friend who professed love for an escort, I'd feel sorry for him and give him the name of a therapist. And I'd probably stop being his friend. A lot of people have little to no meaningful companionship in life, and lonely, lust-filled situations can distort one's emotions and the meaning of love. Talented escorts know how to work vulnerable men, especially horny men. It's no different than cosmetic sales at Bergdorf's: beautiful women promising fountains of youth at ridiculous prices to aging women who aren't getting enough hugs or attention. I like capitalism. I don't really care how anyone spends his money. But if he's shopping for love, then say hello to a fool. Maybe befriending a fool is better than having no friends at all. I'll pass.

+1

I did eventually recover but as u can see from my trip report, it doesnt hinder me from having fun. I did cut lots of day tourist activity though, but thats not my main reason to come to thailand hehe

If i were to give another excuse for my late reporting, this could be one of them lol. We have been blessed with quite a lot of trip reports these few month, so spreading out mine when its quiter might benefit some lol

That’s Mr Fluke. He is still at Fake Club. Jupiter no longer offer shower show. They got rid of shower cubicle and made it to sofa seats.

@Riobard, perish that thought. I didnt mean to cause WIDE SPREAD PANIC in the group...LMAO!!!!! As long as Manny is around, the dick supply will be endless.

Most guys are desirous of making more money. I do not see this forum as a means for them to accomplish that. For them to read all these longs postings in a language other than their native tongue would take some skills. Perhaps reading a good book would be a better use of their time. There are some posters who share information about boys to others and that gets them business. This is a good thing IMHO. I also see the Moonlight thread (among others) as a way to really promote that bar but not really all the boys. I think (and I may be wrong) but the forum does a good job at helping people find places and not specific people.

I see this all too often. I have been there myself. But, I always tell people that falling in love with an escort and wanting to spend time with then are two different things. It rarely ends well. A relationship built on money is most always about money. That is hard to overcome. Recently, I had a friend that was telling me he was in love with a guy he met at a bar and was moving to Thailand to be with him and set up a house near the boy's family. I can't really say much other than, "are you sure this is a good idea?" The boy is still working and I see him when I visit the bars. But, this friend thinks he is not going with customers and only working there to spend time with this friends. Hard to argue with someone in love. Is it worth it?

Again, this is only what I found as useful for me. DivineMadman’s motto: “Don't over-think; Be open; Be kind. Have fun.” Preparations before you go: Hygene yourself as before a romantic date. Place all valuables in safe. Have small bills for tips and charges (from 20 to 1000), and know what the rates are. At the bar: “Confidently walk into the bar, and have no fear. People go to these bars to off lads, so do not be shy. Never look like a newbie. If asked by staff how many times you’ve been to Thailand, your answer should be ”five”. If you like the bar, sit down & order a drink; if the boys are not to your liking, it’s OK to walk straight back out. In order to not appear like a first-timer, always insist on picking your preferred seat by yourself: usually at the back, a bit away from the stage but with clear view of it and sometimes a bonus view of the boys changing area or gym. Some bars also have upstairs seating that is worth checking out. Try to find place where you can have space for a boy to sit next to you if you plan to do that. If you arrive late after the show had finished and only want to off a guy, it’s worth saying that to the mamasan thus avoiding pay for drink/entrance. Bars are usually more flexible when it’s about closing time, especially when it’s low season. Do not trust the mamasans; well some are OK, but understand that some say anything to make a sale. The mamasans or waiters may sit down and start talking to you. if you don’t want them there, ask them to go. If they stay, they’ll expect a tip. Enjoy the boys. If you identify a boy you like, you can either engage the mamasan to bring him over, or wave the boy over to sit with you. If a boy sits with you without invitation, feel free to politely ask him to move on & don’t tip him.” Employ usual precautions with your valuables, but don’t distress yourself too much. Thailand is a safe country; boys are much more honest than their counterparts in most countries; and there are (almost) no reports of pickpocketing, theft and the like. Factors to consider when selecting a boy: eye contact; smile; behavior with other boys or patrons; sitting close; body language intimacy; his English; kisses; physical contact; gropes. He might be shy in certain aspects, but if he’s off in most/all the above – he isn’t the One. “After introducing yourselves & making polite conversation, if you want to off him – ask what he likes and doesn’t like in bed. If you have specific needs, check each one with him. Make sure there is no hesitancy in his replies. For example, if you have doubts about his willingness to kiss, ask to kiss him there. Some might not like doing that in the gogo bar, so I’m not sure refusal should rule him out. OTOH, if he makes a really good effort – you can remove any doubts about that, which helps to rule him in. Maybe try some discrete fondling. Be aware that acceptable behavior varies from bar to bar. In certain bars, the boys will get everything out only on stage. In others: they will strip off & sit on your lap naked, then if you really desire – suck you off in the bar. However, in the majority of gogo bars, the boys usually keep everything in their underwear & keep up appearances on the premises. If in doubt, watch what’s going on with other patrons, or wait for the boy to make the first risqué move.” ASK HIM WHAT HIS RATE IS. “If he asks for too much (for you), counter with a lower offer. If he won’t settle at a reasonable price for you, avoid prolonged haggling. If you decide not to off the boy, politely tip him (100-150) and send him away.” Make politely clear to him that if he doesn’t perform as agreed, he won’t be paid per agreement. For example: “no power, no money....if it doesn't get hard, I'm not paying.” Finally, “check his ID card to ensure he is 18 (including that his picture matches his face) BEFORE paying any off fee!” It’s acceptable to politely inquire if other staff members at the bar (waiter, barman, mamasan, DJ) are also for offing. At the hotel: Show respect for the boy on the way to the room, and in the room: continue polite conversation; offer to buy him a snack, or give him something from the minibar; invite him to shower first (if not together); etc.” In a few hotels, he might have to register at reception. “When you off him the first time, don’t hurry with a promise to off him again; a ‘maybe’ is enough. OTOH, if you are impressed with the boy & want to see him again, you may want to secure the next appointment right there in your room before he leaves. Tips are paid before he departs. You should have planned carefully so you have the exact notes to pay him exactly what you intend (and extra if he deserves it).” And again - DivineMadman’s motto: “Don't over-think; Be open; Be kind. Have fun.” Most of the quotes above are by z909 from:

yes,. now I guess you are next in line to join club of his admirers

water was too wet I guess

Yoyo?!

and to make sure we were right I offed him next trip , month later

Nice cathedral. Very good restaurants. For other pleasures, you may have to travel. Düsseldorf is only 23 minutes away by express train, and it has CityBoys which terms itself a “House of Boys”.

as almost always with such questions, the answer is: it depends. It depends on what you PERSONALLY like. If you like sweeping city vies from the highest point in town, it's great. If such views don't do anything for you, then no. The "glass tray" skywalk is a special gimmick many get a kick out of. Can be fun to play with that and take pictures when sharing the experience with someone. But again, depends on YOU, not the venue.... Vinapu and some boys he took there certainly enjoyed it, as per his report.... What I found almost cooler than the observation deck and glass tray was the elevator ride with video displays all around and on the ceiling

Remember offing mr fluke on my second day visit moonlight back 2018..(first night i offed mr york).. Small dick, mr fluke i mean..and he is try too harder to cum but its take like hour so i just ask him go to shower,take money and get out...LOL..

The forum works A number of those who write reports mention a working guy's club and number. Others, will reference that they might have offed someone if he hadn't already been taken. Those, in a certain way, are reviews and I know I've written down the number mentioned to check out the guy when I go to the club. Can't say, I've ever offed someone from this kind of reporting. Then again there is serendipity. When Spoon, Vinapu, and I were exchanging stories, we all three laughed that we had a similar appreciation for one of the boys at Screwboys.

Not a great way to start your trip. Hoping you recover!!!

Spoon, I'm enjoying your catching up on reporting...helps me remember a very pleasant coupe of days...and to prepare to go back next week.

I really don't think the forum needs to change in this regard.

true but guys , like us have their better and worse days and opinion based on one meeting may be kind of skewed either way. Sleepy guy tonight may turn to be roaring lion two nights from now, specially if he liked you at the first place and feels grateful for a repeat business.

O no, vinapu never throws wads of any notes, he rather tucks them discreetly into guy's briefs or pockets It was great that you acted so fast that we managed to be in BKK at the same time .

Don't rely too much on recommendations about specific boys from others every person has its own taste and if someone on this forum had a good interaction with specific boy that doesn't mean necessarily you would have the same experience with him, Don't look for boys recommend by other choose the ones that you think are the best for you once you are there also I read in your other comments about your preference for the size of the dick boy and the shape of his body after some experience you will find out that it doesn't mean anything and what is more important is the chemistry between you two , politeness and attitude of the boy .

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I've been back from Brazil for over a week now and i'm ready to talk about the trip. I hope to do it a little different than I have given reports in the past. I started a few reports but they became too wordy and i want to make this report more informational and less personal. I flew in from Philadelphia on American Airlines in economy. The seats were better than expected and offered free entertainment. The food was basic. Breakfast was juice, fruit and yogart... Landing in Brazil was a breeze. Going through customs was fast and easy and luggage showed up quickly. Heading out to the main airport you pass drivers touting for customers. The free wifi was spotty in the airport and my t-moblie service was frustrating until I updated my service for 10 gigs of 3g for 10 days for $35 on the tmobile network. It got me streaming video. When i go back, i'll do it again. I took $5,000 cash with me and some credit cards. I changed $100 for local cash and I returned home with the remainder of the cash, i used my travelwise card and atm for spending money. For my 9 days there I spent a total of $1,000 looking at my atm transactions that show my withdrawals and transfers to my transfer wise credit card. I took a prepaid taxi to my AIRBNB to Copacabana at a cost of 40 Reals. An uber would have cost me 22 Reals. Traffic was slow but it was fine. If the windows were clean I would have taken some pictures. Copacabana reminded me of downtown Washington DC. I had my guard up in Brazil but i never had a problem with anyone or anything from start to finish. Nobody tried to scam me, cheat me or steal from me. Often I was mistaken for a local. Here in the USA im mistaken for Latin and in Thailand I am mistaken for Indian. Ubering around is so easy and cheap it makes it hard to walk and use the subway. The subway is cheap and cleaner than what you will find in New Jersey or NYC. The guys... Hot. Handsome guys everywhere. Its as if being young and handsome is the norm in Brazil. Not many spoke english but using google translate went a long way. I used it in the restaurants, bars, sauna, apps and reading menu's. Google maps was the app I used the most next to Grindr. The other apps seem to be active but all the action for me seem to come from Grindr and Vivalocal. Saunas.... I heard a lot of good things about Club 117 and I visited often untill I visited Point 22 Sauna. Club 117 was nice but Point 22 was like a gay bar with hot guys in towels flashing their ass and dick often. If I was going back with friends Id take them to Point 22 before i took them to Club 117. Sao Paulo Sauna was EVERYTHING! The guys are hot and aggressive. My first 5 minutes in the place, I met a guy that offered to show me around and next thing I know in a corner stairwell being french kissed, spun around and my ass is getting the french kiss treatment...... I loved the guys of Sao Paulo. I was so comfortable in Brazil that I took the subway to find a guy on vivalocal living near Club 117. Google helped lead me to his door and we had over an hour of mind-blowing sex that set me back 100 Reals or $24 usd. Food... I didn't care for the food in Brazil so I lost a lot of weight while there and I'm sure it helped with my time with the guys. I ate mostly from Subway and sandwiches from the local grocery store. Knowing all this, if there were 2 planes waiting for me, one headed to Rio for a week and one headed to Pattaya for a week, I would get on the plane to Pattaya. Yeah I like the masculine big dick latin guys but I like the lean hot guys found in Thailand as well. Being in Rio was fun but Pattaya is like being on Fantasy Island and there is always something about to happen. Rio, you could talk to a guy and be ready for sex and he will say he is on his way and after 90 minutes he will send you a text telling you he is close and after an hour he will tell you he is walking to your place and after an hour he will text you and say he is right outside. In pattaya, 500 baht can get a guy to your door in 30 minutes at 4am in the morning. I plan to go back to brazil with a friend in May for a week. I also plan to go to Pattaya in October for a week.

Google’s ‘Project Nightingale’ Gathers Personal Health Data on Millions of Americans Search giant is amassing health records from Ascension facilities in 21 states; patients not yet informed Google is engaged with one of the country’s largest health-care systems to collect and crunch the detailed personal health information of millions of Americans across 21 states. The initiative, code-named “Project Nightingale,” appears to be the biggest in a series of efforts by Silicon Valley giants to gain access to personal health data and establish a toehold in the massive health-care industry. Amazon.com Inc., AMZN -0.80% Apple Inc. AAPL 0.79% and Microsoft Corp. are also aggressively pushing into health care, though they haven’t yet struck deals of this scope. Google began Project Nightingale in secret last year with St. Louis-based Ascension, the second-largest health system in the U.S., with the data sharing accelerating since summer, according to internal documents. The data involved in the initiative encompasses lab results, doctor diagnoses and hospitalization records, among other categories, and amounts to a complete health history, including patient names and dates of birth. More here: https://www.wsj.com/articles/google-s-secret-project-nightingale-gathers-personal-health-data-on-millions-of-americans-11573496790

Do guys here really check ID of every new boy they meet-off?

After initiating 9 threads and pouring questions ad nauseam, it’s time to start giving back. Below is a concentration and summary of what I’ve gleaned from blog, forums, posts and PMs. Hope this might be useful for pre-BKK newbies like me. This isn’t a definitive tutorial, but rather what I understand to be useful info for me. Quotation marks aren’t associated with contributors. Sorry about that; the idea of publishing my tutorial came to me too late for researching footnotes. Kudos go to: vinapu, drimvoiz, ggobbk, macaroni, divinemadman, spoon, patanawet, jasper, gerefen, boy69, z909, zoomy02, and others unmentioned. I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PATIENT GENEROUSITY, AND FOR MAKING MY UPCOMING VISIT THAT MUCH BETTER. (-: “Before you go exploring gogo/off bars, why not go for an early drink and maybe meal in Silom Soi 4 – the gay soi – to soak up some of the atmosphere and meet someone to ask their experiences. Balcony Pub opens at 5.30 pm (but is quiet till about 8 then very busy by 10 for their free show at 10:45 with Coyote boys and cabaret). Connection, Welcome and Telephone Pub – all on the same soi – have similar opening times and prices.” Bar explainer on ShamelessMack’s blog: https://shamelessmacktwo.travel.blog/bar-glossary/ Bar rates: entry/drink – 350; tip boy for short sit-down – 150; tip for mamasans – 100 (only if they helped and weren’t pesty); off – 500 (maybe less); tip for ST (Short Term 45-90 minutes) – 1500-2000 (more toward 2000). Jupiter and Moonlight consider themselves and/or really are “classy” (e.g. boy “models” and their shows may be “the best”) and are more expensive: entry for Jupiter is 500; drink in Moonlight is 450. Maybe so is Tawan because of the “muscle hunks” there, but “many of the hotter guys that worked there have apparently moved on to Jupiter and Moonlight”. The main batch of regular (i.e. not "classy") bars close together is (in apparent order of popularity): Lucky Boys, Screw Boys (“badgering mamasans”), Fresh Boys, Dream Boys, and maybe Banana Boys (“very crowded benches”). Southward are Tawan, Nature Boy, Golden Cock, Hotmale (apparently already “tired”). “In Lucky, Screw and Banana boys are more engaging. In Dream, Jupiter and Moonlight guys are less engaging but hotter.” Apparently “Tawan , Screw, Golden Cock and Nature are more adventurous (allowing wild patron-boy action while seating); Dream, Moonlight, Hotmale, Jupiter – not so” Mamasans can be helpful in finding the right boy for you, but they might also have ulterior motives including tips for themselves. Don’t let them badger you into sitting with them. Mamasans recommended for reliablility: Neung at Jupiter and Emmy at Moonlight. “For offing a guy, Monday night is the night you'll have the least amount of competition. Weekend nights bars are crowded.” “Babylon. 5-9 PM on Saturdays and Sundays are the best time to be there.”

Me personally I've never had any hassle from the Mama's in Screw-boys, if anything they go out of their way to make sure I'm happy, if I need them...they're around but other than that I just sort myself out or one of my regular Viets will give me a few tips on who they think i'll like (although that's generally one of their newly arrived friends that they're trying to 'pimp me out' to...lol) I would also add a note of caution that please don't expect that every guy you come across will want to engage in 'wild patron-boy' action inside the bar, they're often within eye shot of their friends and don't want to loose face in front of them. They're all different and from different back-grounds and some would much prefer to engage in action with you in the privacy of your nice condo / hotel room rather than a gogo bar.

Concentration and summary of inputs from blog, forums, posts and PMs. Again, no personal experience as yet. Massage explainer on ShamelessMack’s blog: https://shamelessmacktwo.travel.blog/massage-glossary/ "Prince, Hero, and tons of others. Massage minimum tip is often 1000 or 1500 depending on the place, and then a fee for the room 500-800 depending as well. In all the above, find a mamasan you like and have them give advice. Or have someone interpret for you." The Prince Men’s Spa gets most votes, though it’s expensive and there is at least one report on cramped room and leaky AC. Oil massage 60 minutes: 1,100 baht, minimum tip 1,200 baht. "For hygiene and facilities my vote goes to MyHero in Sukhumvit soi 11, bit of a distance from Silom ghetto but easy to get to. Like Prince, they tend to glance over the massage part and go to second act as fast as possible." "The highly rated (on Travelgayasia) Magic Touch opens at 10:00 each day. Not much choice in the first few hours. Easy to find; it’s off the soi that runs up the side of Le Meridian hotel." "Paradise on Silom Soi 6 opens at 10am (according to google). It's not a full-service gay shop as Prince or Arena or Senso, but it's very gay nonetheless, meaning "things" WILL happen there….." "Senso: 60 minutes’ oil massage was priced at 1,000 baht with a recommended minimum tip of 1,200 baht." "Tarntawan Massage, not to be confused with Tawan Massage inside Soi Tarntawan. About 12 service providers visible from the front of shop, majority of which were men. Foot massage: 250 baht for 60 minutes. Baby oil massage: 500 baht for 60 minutes." Small shower, low water pressure. "Bangkok Massage is in the epicenter of action, right under Lucky Boys. Along with Arena and Senso open early afternoon, like 2 or 3 p.m. Adam and Nakarat may be opening earlier, like noonish." VK / VCK / CK – less recommended, as is Indra.

I have said this here many times before: My 3 deepest friends on earth (besides my beloved mama) are guys I first met by hiring them. We each found personally very much in common. After fairly many years of hiring, each said simply, ‘No more $. I am jusr your friend.’ Some of us then lived in different cities, spent $ to travel to be together,. To this day we love each other without reservation. What is so difficult about that simple human connection?

I've found that many foreigners that travel to Thailand, fall into the same trap. And there is no talking sense to them until they are either broke or crying about how much of a fool they were. I remember I had a friend that thought his guy would go back to working n the farm whenever he would go back to USA, the kid had softer hand than me!! The Manager of the Ambiance said that my friends guy has at least 5 farang bf's that regularly send him money. Also that when more than one is in town at the same time is hilarious watching him try to juggle them, lol

Day 1 - The Departure and Arrival As i said in previous post, ill be arriving at night. my flight is at 19.35pm and arriving 20:50pm, so i left office early today to go back home to pack and ready to go to the airport. After all packing was done, I went down the stairs to catch my grab and unfortunately missed one step toward the end of and tripped. Sprained both my ankles due to the fall, took a bit of time to recover from the pain and force my way to the front door and wait for my grab. Though im in pain, I can still walk, albeit slowly, so i count my blessing and just move at my own pace. When i arrived at the airport, went through immigration and found out my flight got delayed 1 hour plus so, i went to the cafe, bought a drink and asked if they can spare some ice so i can used them to make a makeshit icepack using tissues. it helps a lot in reducing the swelling and pain. Due to the delay, i only managed to arrived in dmk at 10:20pm instead. I usually wait until tomorrow to go and get a sim card in silom which is usually cheaper, but due to my recent injury, i settled with tourist simcard for 299 baht at the airport. took the taxi from dmk, asked the driver to avoid expressway and arrived at Raya a bit after 11pm. Checked in went smoothly and after cleaned up a bit, i went out to check out the scene, walking slowly with slightly improve ankle. It is still too early for screwboys late night show at 1.30am so i went to hotmale instead. Not many customer on thursday night, maybe me and few other at the back, who soon left. i asked if there is a show, mamasan said later at midnight. so i stay for a while looking at the boy on offers. not a bad selection but one in particular had very defined muscle, among the 3 guys who wore black underwear, and from time to time dancing near the pole so i guess its the famous coyote dancer of hotmale. IIRC, he is #3. The night is still young, so after waiting a while for a show that will not happen, since im the only customer around, i decided to go to screwboy instead. What a change of scene. Screwboys is doing great, with plenty of customer but still have seats for me near the entrance facing the stage. Better selection of boys here than hotmale, though no one can beat #3 hotmale coyote dancer in terms of body. One particular guy caught my eyes from the stage. As u can guess, he is no twink. Great body, not muscular but natural fit, with a bit tummy of manliness. His face looks a bit like jericho rosales, actor from philippines. I took too long to decide and one customer who already have one boy with him called him for a drink and he spent quite a time with the customer during the show. There is also another guy that i like, but also similar case, taken by a customer who sits to the left of the stage, the place where more than kissing can happen. Anyway, the guy soon left with the customer, so my eye went back the the first guy, who was still sitting with customer on the table next to me. Not long after, the customer left and he went back to the stage. This time i didnt delay and immediately called him down, drink ordererdand the usual conversation ensued. Off fee paid, long time agreed and we both went to Raya. As always, i asked if he want anything to eat, he bought some street food along the way and off we go for room inspection. He was a great company, cant recall his number but if i have to guess it was #33, from myanmar. Very passionate, gave me great massages, and my feet feels a bit better the day after probably due to his massage too. We ate breakfast together in Raya and i sent him off. My first up to you when asked about how much is the tip for LT, so i pay the regular rate. I am off to a good start despite the tiny mishap in the beginning of the trip.

I'd say keep them out of here. You can tell ' i was told ......." or ' I read..... ' but don't be specific where or by whom. For sure they realize we gossip about them and no doubt they do the same when familiar face comes to the bar or to get massage. I'd not be surprised if some are eavesdropping here , the same goes with bar owners. I know at least one guy who found this forum by chance when looking for those guys above, I almost choked when he showed me this site on his phone but I guess I did good job faking lack of interest

Oh no no no 12...don't ever tell them you knew about them thru this forum, and what Vinapu said is totally right,...and you may never know his reaction, if he'll get angry, uneasy or shy bcoz he is being talked about...please what is discussed here stays here, this forum is a great guide but I don't think for a better PR...that's why when a member ask about a boy, I requested them never ever tell the boy that u found about him thru this forum...just tell the boy someone referred you...and if he keeps asking more, kiss him (if allowed), squeeze his butt or grab his bulge so he won't ask more (provided u already off him), ha ha