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Rudolfo the owner of Lagoa took us to lunch and then to the new building. It took us exactly 30 minutes to get there from Lagoa in his car! Do not look for a green building! it has now black metal over the green outside walls and does look better! it is 4 levels has 11 suites and 4 non-suite rooms! i thought even in its unfinished state it looks pretty nice! it will have 2 bar areas one where the stage and showers are like the present Lagoa and another bar on the top floor where there is a video room and a second video room for watching the soccer games and a smoking area! One unique thing he did was provide one suite right past the entrance for handicap/wheelchair to access. the building was not only empty but also had no walls when he rented it! so it is truely a new sauna! They were installing all air-conditioners today. the question will it be done by the grand opening in three weeks?? i don’t know it will be close but may have the final finishes. We met the architect today and they had 15 people working there, mostly electricians and carpenters but it will be a completely new facility to visit!. my Brazilian friend estimated that the cost of the remodeling was in excess of $600,000.R but that’s a guesstimate! the neighborhood seemed very safe! there are restaurants within a block. They are the black building to the left of it!, There will be no name on the bldg but address written on a single story home next door with a orange stripe on it is 124, just look for the multi story black building next to the orange house!

Between Moonlight in the north and Jupiter in the south, there are at least 10 off-bars discussed in this forum. What about massage parlours? Are Arena and Senso the only ones? No places worth noting closer to the center of action? I'm looking for: a clean place with decent showers; service to include massage + at least two way body contact and oral; open in the mornings. I'd appreciate any and all guidance: recommendations and warnings. Thanks (-:

well...rumor has it that One of the suites is going to be called the “Tomcal Suite” :-) Actually one of the Brasilians that I am good friends with is also a good friend of Rudolfo and he came from Rio to SP with me this past.weekend and he arranged for us to get a Tour. There was also a Italian guy who visits from Italy for several months, several times every year who was with us I also went to a place that is called a SPA, and is in a building you get buzzed into, there are 12 guys working there all athletic to muscled builds who do a hour massage or 1/2 hour massage and 1/2 hour sex or one hour sex for $250.R $150 goes to the guy and $100. goes to “house”! 3 guys i know work there and told me i would like it! They were right!! They told me they have celebrities, tv stars, other wealthy people, that would never go to or be seen in a sauna like the anonymity and privacy they get in a facility like this. when you enter or leave they check to make sure no 2 customers are in the hallways at the same time! It is by appointment only and they will send you photos of who is working that day! I was impressed by the quality(the place has nicely painted walls, crown mounding in all the rooms) Most of the sauna guys do not know of these place although it has existed for 6 years! i likened it enough to have gone 3 of the 4 days I was in SP! i did not do a massage there instead opting for the Hour of sex! you can do two guys if you want. no negotiations, just double the rate!!

Right. Most of guides are professional workers with guiding licenses (some are freelancers), drivers have licenses for public transportation, and everyone from staff is reliable. Differences: they are gays, they know gay scene, you may speak openly to them about your preferences and wishes - Siamroads is almost 10 years on the market and you can't make your guide to blush - they saw everything already, they will easy follow you to gay sauna or to f*ck show and will feel themselves comfortable there (but don't expect they will be nude in sauna). Correct: Siamroads and guides don't provide any sexual service, guides will not pick-up moneyboys for you, but guide may help in translation of your conversation with boys in bars. Most common services are: to make tours to places where only official licensed guides may to work (such as Royal Grand Palace in Bangkok or Angkor Wat in Cambodia), to show local life to returning visitors, to introduce city to newcomers, to arrange tour outside of home-city, to introduce local gay scene, entertain solo travelers, to protect from scam and so on. Most guys from Siamroads work over 3 years and are trusted persons with a lots of testimonials and reviews. Very shortly: they make your vacations easy and comfortable.

Thx. I deserve no credit for the title: it's in quotation marks..... (-: LONG is great; by LARGE - do you mean girth? If you do, it's a problem. I don't like them thick.

it was “Inhouse” and you get a full hour!

i only ever use Uber, but the metro station(s) are close.

he's blonde, so must be Stockholm

So he is off my list. )-:

Is that on Suan Phlu 6 Alley? It's rather far; not within walking distance.

Thank you VERY VERY much. This is exactly what I was waiting for. You won't get any arguments from me..... (-: Would of course like to read others' opinions. I read somewhere that drinks are 350. Minamilist calculation: drink for me + for him + off = 1200 baht before any hanky-panky starts.....

As for my personal experience: Best Off: Dreamboys Best Show: Moonlight & Jupiter2018 Best Massage Place: Prince Short Time: 2,000 Long Time: 3,000 Off Fee: 500 Tip when u table a boy: 200 + drink for the boy What to do in the morning: Aside from massage, try rentmen.com Again, this are all based on my experience, no intention 4 an argument please, tnk u!!!

yes (i think everywhere that has a road in a city serviced by Uber is accessible by them)

(-: No need for "sorry"; to each his own...

No link?

Bangkok Massage is in the epicenter of action , right under Lucky Boys. Along with arena and Senso opend early afternoon , like 2 or 3 p.m. In soi you have Adam and Nakarat , they may be opening earlier like noonish. Tons of massage shops along Suriwong and Silom as well as in soi 6 , one connecting both. Most open early and all with handsome / cute guys but it may be more matter of luck and trying to get in those what you want - which is fun itself. Just turn your gaydar on and wade in hour or two after breakfast.

If you don't get any other replies, I shall make inquiries and/or try to have a look up there in the next couple of days. Havn't heard anything about its closing.

I apologize in advance if my question might be construed as negative or critical. I just want to make sure I understand. These gay guides-companions-drivers are good persons and good guides who are also gay, right? The differ from 'regular' guides only by also being able to guide service for the gay scene, right? They don't offer direct *themselves) or in-direct (hook-ups) sex services, right? The fact that most of them look hot is 'only' an eye-candy bonus, right?

Can you change your plans and visit Cebu City instead? Or just use Manila as your base and fly to Boracay or Palawan. I have been visiting the Philippines for over 15 years and I simply avoid Manila. Too crowded, too much traffic, and not much to do except the huge Malls. But if in Manila you can use PlanetRomeo, Whatsapp, or LINE to meet guys! Grinder is not so popular in the PH. Enjoy!!

New testimonial. Best (nickname), Pattaya. Best's profile is here: https://siamroads.com/best-pattaya/

It is mis-pinned in Google maps as being right at Consolação but is really a short block south, one building away from the corner of Bela Cintra, as previously mentioned elsewhere. #124 appears to be a dance conservatory, at least in part, with children coming and going. Aerial view: directly east (bottom) to west (top).

Thx; I will. But didn't the mamasan get angry? After all, if a customer is having his way with the boy right there, he won't be paying to off him. BTW, you wrote "customers" in plural. If it wasn't a typo, it sounds like an embroy-orgy.....

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/30/federal-reserve-powell-economy-062539

Idiot. Yet again. How Trump gabbed too much about the ISIS raid https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/27/trump-isis-raid-baghdadi-059333

Hopefully this is not too late....I believe there are three good bars if your looking for guys to play. Bizarr which open Thursday to Sunday nights, TestMe open every night but Tuesday and Samis bar open everynight. All three have very welcoming staff members and owners. All get busy after midnight on the weekend, weeknights can be hit and miss but you'll never be alone. Samis has a more middle eastern arabic crowd, not many Greek or Albanian guys like the other two places and its also in a bit of rough area.