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Leg 7 - Bangkok - Last chance candy Arrived to the Thai capital on Friday for my last 3 nights of this trip. Hotel review - Grande Centre Point Ratchadamri - 3BR Suite(350 USD per night): I booked this hotel for several reasons: it's walking distance from Siam malls which my family will like, it has 2 and 3 br suites which is rare and cheaper than interconnecting rooms, room was massive (180 sqm). This was all true and was perfect for our need. But, other than that, this hotel does not offer anything exceptional than others and for couples/solo I see no benefit on staying there. This place lacks a bit of character. Breakfast is of medium quality. After sending all my family to nap, I visited Prince(#3) again. I have no recollection of that massage which means I enjoyed it but it was not exceptional. What I do remember is the price change. 1h Oil 1100 and minimum tip 1200. I'm almost sure 2 weeks before that both were cheaper. After my family woke up we all went up Mahanakhon building. Inspired by Vinapu, My daughter and I made a replica of his pic there and sent it to him. Very nice place. That weekend was my final weekend and after being in Moonlight two weeks ago and being impressed by the guys there, I had a vision of going there every night and offing a guy. Well, that did not happen LOL. Went that night to Moonlight (#2) to discover that the place is PACKED. Too many people there, guys mainly interested in the girls sitting front row. I appreciated the models there but realized this place is probably more friendly mid-week. From there, went 23:30 to Tawan (#2) with a clear purpose of offing Tiger. Stepped inside, 2 minutes after getting my drink he passes by, sits next to me, and asks me "Are we going together?". I did not want him to think I am that easy to get. So I replied "Hell yeah!" and out we went LOL. I was in Tawan no more than 5 mins. Although I could get him back to my apartment, I prefered taking the room next to Tawan (500THB). Had a intoxicating 1H Muscle Worship session there. I am in love with him. Well, at least in love with his body. Haha. From there some recovery time and off to G.O.D for another night of alcohol and guys. That night I met a nice local guy that I played with in the club. When the club closed I was too tired to carry on with him but out of all the guys I met, this one will probably be the first I'll try to reconnect with next trip. Next day was a typical BKK Saturday for me. Starting with a play space with my daughter at Central World. When napping time had come, I moved to my play space Babylon (#4). That was the visit that Babylon was the most generous to me in terms of guys. And it was an all Asian buffet that afternoon. Night time was dedicated to a guy I met in a previous trip that has become more than just a sex friend so before clubbing we met for drinks at Telephone. I like the atmosphere in that Soi very much. After the bill is paid, we say our goodbyes an I'm off to G.O.D and finish my night there. Vclub7 VCK Cool Space - After a morning at Emporium mall and playspace, I put my daughter to sleep. It's dad's free massage time! Went to VCK Sunday afternoon. I think they have less guys in terms of amount than the Prince. But, every guy I saw there was a pearl in his own category. Reception guy had no idea about my free massage so I asked him to call the manager. After their chat he told me to just go and pick a guy and that I don't need to pay for the room, and that the guy gets his minimum tip from the management before we enter the room. I saw that actually happening. Massage was erotic and fun just as I expected it to be. I like VCK more than Prince in all parameters except location. Gave the guy some more tip for his effort and both of us went our way happily. After some family quality time, they all went to sleep and it was a Sunday night so Maggie Choo was the place to be. Iv'e said that in the past: this is a nice, classy place that attracts high quality crowd every Sunday night. Music is pop shit and drag show is professional and funny. From there a visit to Dreamboys. Show was fun and entertaining. Non of the guys there were my type but I enjoyed the place. Babe from Moonlight was enjoying that show with 2 Japanese girls. This was my last night in BKK so I was willing to be less uptight about curfew time. Entered G.O.D for what has become my favorite night routine in BKK. This time I did not mind going with someone to his room, but of course, the guy I wanted to have fun with did not have a room of his own. Karma is a bitch. After the club closes he suggests we have some fun in a toilet outside. I am hesitant since this is probably illegal in Thailand and I am not in the mood of going to the police station. But, alcohol was in my blood, and I was horny so just repressed that thought and 10 minutes later I left my dignity at a booth in a toilet behind Silom's KFC. Not my finest hour but I will lie if I say I did not enjoy that encounter. Grindr Hookup (#9) - Last day in BKK I already decided that I will have my farewell party at the Prince. After morning time with my family, I took the motortaxi there. On the way a get a Grindr message from a guy that texted me the night before, but it did not work out yesterday. He suggests that I come to his hotel's pool to chill before I leave. I already know that he shares a room with his friend so not a lot can happen there, but I decide to go for it because this guy is hot and this is my last hours having fun in this city. Well the pool was nice but neither of us wanted to enter nor to chill so I find myself, again in a toilet booth. At least this time it was a fancy one, larger and quiet cause the hotel's pool was empty. Yet another great encounter and god bless Grindr. Prince (#4) - from there off to prince for my farewell party. Upon entrance, I see a familiar face, not in the boys section but in the chooser's section. It was the guy I met at G.O.D and wanted to keep in touch with but decided to keep him for my next trip. He was there with another guy, Israeli, which actually used to live 2 buildings next to me and my husband. We had a 3some several years ago. What are the chances for that?? So instead of choosing a guy, the 3 of us have a conversation for about half an hour. I already saw the guy I'm gonna choose and hope that he stays there till we finish this weird and funny reunion. After we finish our chat they suggest we go to his place for some fun the 3 of us. I politely decline saying I'm tired but truth is I was really into the Asian guy and did not want to have what I call a "fake 3some". They left prince without choosing anyone, not sure why, maybe the whole situation embarrassed them. Before leaving, the Asian guy whispered me who I should choose which is exactly the guy I had in mind. Another note before carrying on - I recognized 2 guys behind the glass - Panu from Arena and X from VCK. The guy I chose was Vietnamese named Super. And he was SUPER. Super is both muscular and beautiful with a nice set of tatto's and sexiest one being on his stomach. He is straight but versatile and was able to be fucked well after some preparation. This was my best Prince this trip. It was a lovely farewell party. Well, that is it. After 26 days in the far east it was my time to go back home. Although it may not seem that way, this trip's main attraction was quality time with my daughter. The combination of sex travel with family travel was unique and very intense. It was sometimes harder than might seem from this report and I think only upon returning I realized that I did not sleep, eat or workout well this entire vacation. @vinapu and @anddy were horrified to hear that all I eat is MCd's and room service but this trip, food was just fuel to keep me on going. Maybe next time I'll try to have a more balanced trip. Maybe not LOL. Writing was fun as always and allowed me to relish on some of the memories of my vacation. Hope reading was enjoyable as well, and thanks for all your kind feedback! The clock is ticking on my next trip, and in exactly 2 months my husband and I will be headed to Bangkok as my queen returns to Bangkok's White Party. Will report Cheers! Offer_Nissim_-_Crazy_Things_At_Night.mp4

I think many/most of the regulars on this board know 2-3, actually often more, guys from Ha Tinh. (At least those who have kept an open mind about VN guys.) Indeed, there is rumored to be a statue to Paulsf there. That may help explain why nerves are raw. Still, what you or I or any of us write reflects choices and thoughts. Personally, in my opinion, choosing "IIlegals" as the headline word to describe the victims is fairly open to criticism. "Undocumenteds" is the neutral term. Applying the label "illegals" is a choice, and a negative one at that. Maybe you didn't know that. Maybe you didn't care. I don't know. But why any of that is at the forefront is beyond me. These were people. Dreamers and strivers. By the same token, choosing to say that the guys here "sell their bodies" is about as demeaning a way to describe them as you can find. And I think that's the criticism. Obviously they're prostitutes (sex workers). The point is, particularly in the context of a tragedy -- but really always -- dignity and respect are called for. That's not "hand-wringing about prostitution." If anything, it's the opposite. It's getting the idea out there that they're young men and sex workers they're and owed all the same respect as any man or woman, and the words we use to describe them should convey that. So when you have a choice to describe them or what they do, pick the one that shows respect. One of the downsides of putting anything out there in writing is that it can be picked apart. Maybe it's an opportunity to learn something. Or not. Also, it's good that this tragedy helped your, and with luck other's, understanding of the economic pressures these guys are under. I and others are always are urging people to go with the guys to their home villages, spend time really getting to know them, then you can learn this sort of stuff without such a tragedy.

so it looks that Pattaya's attempts to become family destination are somewhat successful

Sure. Fill wallet with money. Go to bar. Find cute boy. Invite for drink. Talk and tell him what you want. If he agrees, take him. If not, tip him a few hundred baht and try another guy. Repeat. If he agrees, take him to your hotel. Enjoy pleasure. Tip him 2500 baht for short time. Send him away. Go out the next night. Repeat.

If at all there is any strategy behind it -- and Thai businesses can often operate with no strategy at all -- I think it's more because their women customers prefer men with some clothes on. In my view, gay men across cultures (very much like straight men) prefer skin. The more exposure the better. One only has to look at advertising targetting men versus advertising targetting women. I wonder if places like Jupiter are going to be non-gay after a few more years, as more and more women flock to these places, and they morph into males-for-rich-females bars.

Well, when i saw #37, he is fully clothed wearing super tight designer shirt and jeans, which other than his dick size, i can hardly need to guess how he look naked as his cloth really made to show all his muscular body, chest, etc. And i guess they think asian women prefer the boys being dressed up like ken from barbie

you are not alone in that feeling

Since we all get along so well we should create a small investment group to take over a place like Lyon's Sauna , albeit on better terms than they had. I know the way we all travel and whore around, we could throw some cash we're not using at a place like this to make it work. Advertising- Good about getting the word out about the place (Tomcal, although I'm sure he wants HR, to test new hires) Accounting and legal matters- Experienced in accounting and detailed legal documents (Mvan1) EEOC compliance manager- To ensure that we have the correct number of black, white, mulatto, etc (Solacesoul) Training manager- Someone with experience in the field to train the guys the do's and don'ts of the position (Badboy81) Consultant/Director- Previous Experience running escort agency or sauna (Totallyoz) Nationwide recruiter- Travel the country looking for fresh talent (Namuzu) Historian- To give advice of previous saunas failures in the past so we don't make the same mistakes (Axiom2001) Legalese speaker- Someone that will talk to the various police entities as needed to confuse them as to what is actually going on inside (Riobard) Bar manager- Someone that will keep an eye on the bar, closely (floridarob) I'm sure I've left some positions/names out.....chime in with your suggestions (Humor is ok, don't be rude ) Also, I don't know everyone personally that I've tagged, no offense intended to anyone. Just things that stuck in my mind from reading posts all these years. And now what would the benefits be...? We could have investment levels, not like pyramid schemes, but yeah. Platinum, gold, bronze, etc... Haven't given this much thought, but what benefits could be given to the different levels of investment , hmmm

After visiting Dreamboy briefly to watch an exJupiter boy and ever energetic dancing bunny Johnny, I went to check Lucky boys where I heard so many good reviews recently. Despite heavy rain around 9 pm, the place was 80% full on rainy Monday night. There were 11 participants on big cock show and surprisingly they took boxer shorts off at the end of the show completely naked except shoes. Their fuck show had a sort of twist at the end. The third guy suddenly appears and jerked off to the chest of bottom guy while the guy was getting fucked by the top. lol In my opinion, between Moonlight, Jupiter and Lucky boys, off percentage of this bar is highest. Customer comes here for the purpose of offing boys and not just looking at shows. Lucky boys drink still 350 B Boys are prohibited to quote more than an official tip of ST 2000/ LT 3000 therefore some guys are complaining generous tippers are very rare.

Noted Jasper...I'm only in BKK on weekend all the time and my visit in Jupiter2018 I think falls in Sun...bcoz Friday or Saturday is always reserved 2 Dreamboys, haa haa

They wear jeans only on Sundays. Other six days they wear shorts.

Just down the hill from Lagoa is Villa Grano Breads. Which has an excellent buffet à quilo. Near the new location are Mestiço, Athenas, La Frontera, Sujinho and the food truck park on Rua Augusta

If they don't wear number chances are they are in ' no available for an off " category or already booked. Nothing wrong with that , at least we have an eye candy to admire. But in reality never hurts to call guy over and ask / guy himself , not mamasan / if he is available. If not tonight he may be back on the market next evening or during day. Don't go by what others / mamasans, waiters , members reporting / say, go to the source, guy himself. Even most popular guys have periods of drought so may be adaptable and chances are they may not like one of us but gladly go with another. For me classic case , reported here was Handsome Cambodian from BBB Boyztown, first said ' I no gay" then ' I must think about it ' after that ' lets have a drink outside" and finally " ok but you go first" , 20 minutes all and deal sealed. On another hand guys offed many times before all of the sudden may not become available, usually because our victorious competition in in sight ( pretty girl or rich, fat farang or the worst, pretty and rich girl )

1. Depends on the bar. Usually 500 for the off from many bars in Bangkok. 2. You have to do a quick try for them all and see them on stage. Walk in have a drink and if not your type, leave. 3. Weekends are more boys but also more customers. I like them. But, I also find less competition through the week. 4. I hate them so I can't say much. Tawan has a good one as does Lucky Boys. 5. YES. Massage. Prince. Hero. and a tone of others. Massage minimum tip often 1000 or 1500 depending the place and then a fee for the room 500-800 depending as well. IMHO, cheapter and some amazing guys plus some great massages. In all the above, find a mamasan you like and have them give advice. Or, have someone interpret for you. Pattaya is cheaper than all the above for everything. Bangkok is king when it comes to numbers and variety.

so we can safely go bar hopping together without any fear we will be fighting over the same guys

I wonder what is first , chicken or egg since I noticed more fancy hotel more time I tend to spent in the room basking in luxuries. So going spartan for me has 2 advantages - saving money and generating more time outdoors.

sounds like you are slowly converting to hetero, lol

you could have solved that issue more, uhm, elegantly by taking a short time room. First, such rooms are not reserved for encounters with money boys LOL, and second you are no stranger to using them as evidenced in Pattaya For future reference in case you don't know where: at the Suriwong Hotel, reight next door to Moonlight. Thanks for the great reports, great fun reading them, and great fun meeting you. See ya next time (if I'm around)

Hmm there is a lot to be said in favour of a well dressed hottie but when you’re seated towards the back and the guy is bathed in unflattering lighting or the clothing is too loose to give clues then I say off with their shirts! There were a couple of guys at moonlight in shirts that I completely overlooked until they turned up in the show for the above reasons.

Fifty? a youngster by Pattaya- falang standards....and a lot more sanuk lies ahead. The same can't be said of many of us. I have to agree about hotel rooms. I spend more time in my room than in my younger days (when I was fifty...or sixty) and am fortunate enough to be able to pay. Last year , P and i spent a week in Luang Prabang and the hotel, though not cheap, was a disaster. What a relief it was to arrive at the Agate after the journey from Laos. Everything worked! By the way, the Agate website is decidedly odd when it comes to reservations. Anyone planning a stay should consider using an email direct.

I guess I am getting older before I was in the room only for sleeping so there was not much purpose to book fancy hotels but now I do less outdoor activities so I do need propper hotels which provides swimming pool and dyning room with breakfast buffet the only options in Jomtien complex is the Zing or the Agate. Second thing I noticed in my last trip is that looking for boys become less important but relaxing and enjoying tourist attractions is on first priority so decided at my next trips I will spoil my self with better hotels , regarding to boys I became very picky (don't know why...) and will take one only if he's really stunning so I am taking into consideration that not every day will find one and have sex activity it's fine by me because my main purpose in my upcoming trips is to rest from my stressful work and not finding boys. I guess now when I am fifty years old I become more bourgeois tourist.lol.

Interesting you said that. I've noticed that too and feel a similar way. There's a subtle difference in looks, which I cannot quite put my finger on. Sometimes it is because I think they have squarer jaws, squarer faces. Then other times, I tell myself I am just imagining it. When I was last in Cambodia some years ago thinking my beep ratio (meaning how many guys around me I'd have a second look) would be higher than if I was in Thailand, I found that it was no different. Still in the range of maybe 1 in 200 or 1 in 500! In fact, I am halfway through a draft of a ShamelessMack story about a massage boy in Bangkok Massage whom I guessed was Cambodian..... but was not, until.... (well, the story's still being worked on).

then they will work illegally, with diligence and good luck it may last on for years. The same with landlords - not all of them are reputable and some may look only for money knowing that illegals will rarely complain. Or well established guy will rent it under his name and let others to live there In many cases those illegals have access to good supporting network and their only problem is how to get there

I actually don't mind guys being dressed, surprisingly for me I like guys in jeans even if I don't wear those myself. But I think some of guys by being dressed are missing opportunities of being offed, neither six-pack nor bulky biceps look prominent lose fitting shirts specially when coupled with disinterested face expression

Panorama has a ‘happy hour’ from 6-9pm. Substantial reduction of drink prices, including coffee and cappuccino..

I can also recommend The Venue in the Complex for user friendly rates and fairly sizable rooms.

Oh, it’s the big picture you suggest that I concern myself with. Guess that must be illegal immigration and not the truly horrible manner of their death at the hands of smugglers who are legal citizens. Think I get it. Gee, Hank, for someone who claims to know “at least two if not more” boys and girls from the Thai bar scene, your comments seem....how can I say this succinctly...void of compassion for these folks? And for some reason, you felt compelled to call attention to the fact that the impoverished Vietnamese prostitute themselves (or as you succinctly said, “sell their bodies”). Yes, think I’m beginning to see your big picture more clearly now. Thanks for clarifying things, Hank. There nothing like getting the facts from the horse’s mouth.

I am not sure why you think “illegals” is perverse, perhaps there is some implication that I am not aware of. I used the word (which to me seems completely neutral and has also been used repeatedly in varying and apolitical news articles internationally) because it felt appropriate to recap the situation, they were attempting to cross the UK border illegally. This is a fact. “Migrants” is not accurate as implies migration according to law, and apparently they were carrying fake documents which they also used to gain entry to other European countries. And “39 Vietnamese” I think is even more offensive particularly since it has not been absolutely established that all are from Vietnam alone. I suggest you focus on the big picture of this tragedy rather than nitpicking on what was only meant to be an effort at being succinct.

Glad to see u had nice time despite having family around. Its not so easy for me when i was travelling with mine, but i did manage to get out on my own two times for a massage when i was in milan lol. Yes, the benefit of travelling with my parents, i dont have to pay for hotel and food hehe, so im free to use my money for other stuff. While my sister and my mom used theirs to buy branded purse, i spent mine on massages, and one nice pair of noise cancelling headset. Your reunion with the hotel staff is hot fantasy of mine lol. After hearing that one of my regular masseur here being deported to nepal and cannot come back here to work, i managed to ask one of his friend about his whereabout and the answer is he is working as security guard in hotel in kathmandu. When i heard that, i immediately thought that maybe nepal isnt a bad destination for me to go to next lol. Your "free" sexual encounter with bar guys might be because he is also into you. After all they are human, and not often they find customer that are their type. Regardless, you did the right thing with still tipping him, as not tipping might send a wrong signal, as in he might think you as his bf or something towards that.

it was right thing to do in my opinion

Leg 6 - Pattaya - Full Love Inn Arrived again at the commercial sex capital of the world on a Tuesday for 3 nights, this time with my parents. Which on the bright side meant that I am not paying, but at the same time can't host. Stayed again at Centara Grand Mirage with similar experience regarding to that hotel as reviewed in leg 2. Since I'm with my parents, this Pattaya visit I'm less stressed regarding my own safety which means It's time for some questionable decisions! Grindr questionable experience (#1) - We arrived to Centara late so in no time everyone went to sleep and I was out to meet a guy I texted with on Grindr. There were red lights in terms of photos. I could see that they are heavily edited but I gave it a shot as he was near my hotel at a coffee shop. What he failed to mention that he was with his sister. So that was a weird experience meeting a guy that did not look at all like his photos, with his sister. But, to their defense, I must say that the conversation was really nice and interesting and nobody was shocked that after an hour I said I'm tired and left. Grindr Commercial sex (#1) - Arrived back at my room, probably at midnight, to receive a message from a massage guy. I could see that this guy was my type in terms of body but was unsure about the rest. But, it was questionable decisions time and I was horny. 15 minutes later I am in front of Tiffany's show as he suggested since he knows short time rooms near there. This was not my finest hour since this guy, as I suspected, had a nice body but that was it. Anyways, I will admit that it was a fun meet and 1000 THB later I'm back at my room to receive a text from my hotel staff night entertainment that knew I was returning tonight. I was not sure he could meet me that night that is why I didn't wait for him, but I was happy that he texted and could meet. This time I could not host him in my room, and also didn't want to take a cheap short time room. We knew that this night was probably our last night since he was leaving the hotel the night after back to his country since he finished his contract at Centara. He told me his colleague once took a woman to a hotel close by for the night so that is where we went - Blue Boat Hotel. Checked in at 2AM 750 THB a night which we split (I offered to pay it, he insisted we split). Luckily he had his passport on him because they required one. Night was awesome, he had some poppers left from last time so he could be fucked well. I put a clock for 4AM to end our sex session and went back to sleep. He stayed till morning and checked out. This was the last of our 4 nights together. Grindr Commercial sex (#2) - the next day after doing pool stuff all morning and letting my family to nap, I decided to meet another guy that offered his services on Grindr. This time there were no red lights and it was indeed a pleasurable experience. There was one part I was not sure if I was gentlemen enough. That guy wanted to cum while I fuck him. The whole concept of me paying for sex is usually accompanied by the fact that I don't care if the guy wants to cum or not. Tiger from Tawan asked me if I want him to cum which I replied "if you wanna cum, then cum, but don't do that for me since I don't care". Back to this guy. He really wanted to cum but could not do that in my favorite sexual position. So he wanted me to fuck him missionary. If he was just a Grindr hookup I would surly compromise on that. But he was not. So I told him that I want to keep fucking him while he lays down flat on his belly which is a position that is really hard for the bottom to cum in. But for me it's my favorite. After I cum he asked me to just stay inside him, which I had no problem doing and he cum quickly. If anyone thinks I should have acted differently, I would like to hear that. Anyways guy seemed happy with his tip and wanted to meet again so I think I was kind enough. Grindr questionable experience (#2) - after an evening with my family, went to Boyztown again to BBB with same experience as leg 2. During the show I start chatting with a hot guy that seemed serious on meeting. Some red lights were there only to be totally ignored by yours truly. The guy suggested a short time place he knows called "Full Love Inn". I came there and texted him. He asked me to get the room and to send him the room number. It was at that point I got a hold of myself and started getting suspicious. I sent him a fake number just to see the reaction. First reaction was that he was on his way. I thought to myself, Ok cool, maybe I'm being too suspicious here. After a minute, another message "you can do whatever you want to me". That is a bit weird to send now. I don't reply. Another minute passes by and I get the message: "I'm a ladyboy". I Ask for real photos and got ladyboy's pics. Asked why lie, got text back "because I like you". Blocked that profile on Grindr and took a motortaxi to my first visit this trip in Jomtien. I do take into consideration that it could be just some prank and not really a ladyboy. I find this incident a little annoying but mostly amusing and I carry on with my night. Grindr commercial sex (#3) - Jomtien complex is happening that night. Lots of guys and customers. While enjoying the show at m2m I get a Grindr message from a working guy. He says he works at @home bar, and I say I'll come and say hi after the show. Indeed, I go there, and this guy is kinda unique physically in that twink ville. And I'm quite attracted to him but do not intend to actually off him that night. He invites me to sit which I comply since I'm willing to have a drink and a chat with him but not more that night. And I was perfectly clear on that with him as well. So we chat, I get us both drinks, we chat some more and he is really sweet talking me into offing him, although I was perfectly clear with him and stated from the beginning it's not going to happen that night. I thought I had better options that night (only to discover later I was wrong). At a certain point he suggests that I fuck him in the back room of the bar, in which I decline. Then he says he'll do it for free and that I'll just need to pay for the room. I then explain him that it's not about the money, it's that I have other plans and that tomorrow I might come again. His English is perfect which is also a nice experience. Finally, he suggests he just sucks me for a little time before I go. It's hard to refuse a blowjob from a sexy guy. He succeeded on his mission of cracking me down. Paid the drinks, 300THB for the bar's questionable room and went up there. After the promised blowjob, and because he asked me so nicely, it was hard not fuck this guy. So I did. He cum fast and got really embarrassed about it. I told him that's cool and that maybe I'll come tomorrow to have more proper fun with him. I was really cool with that short interaction since I didn't want more. Although he said this one is for free, I don't believe in free gifts in the commercial scene so I tip him and we say our goodbyes. He will be very eager to meet the next day but I keep him on hold since I was not sure I'll come. The night ended there because the other options I thought might occur, did not so I went to bed 2AM which was relatively early for this trip. The day after, my dad asks my mom to look after my daughter for a couple of hours while we go to see their condo. For some reason which is unclear to me, my parents, out of all the places in the world, own a condo in Pattaya and wanted to show it to me. I never asked about that place but I always knew it exists. It's a 1br apartment located very well in a nice building somewhere between boyztown and Jomtien. After talking to the woman in charge of the maintenance and long term rent tenants, it was easy to understand that as an investment, it's not a very good one. At least not now. Anyways my dad was really excited that I got to see it and appreciate it since he knew I'm the only one of my siblings that would appreciate that place and actually see it in person. If I need to guess, he wants me to have this apartment one day and that is why he wanted me to see it. But I'm not sure. Anyways I told him I prefer an apartment in BKK LOL. After that, some pool, rest, Terminal 21 and I put all the gang to sleep and go out for my last night out in Pattaya. Some other options I thought might occur, did not, so I text the guy from last night I'm on my way to Jomtien. We were both happy to see each other. Upon arrival I stated exactly what I wanted: to have a couple of beers together and then go and have fun. And that is exactly what happened. After finished drinking and a very pleasant time together at the bar, I asked him to find us a short time hotel. He said he didn't know any, but he'll look around. I expected it to be very easy for him but it's probably a result of him being relatively newbie. After about 10 minutes of him trying to find a proper place for us, I decided I'll make some lemonade from yesterday's lemons. I tell him to let me find us a place. We go out, and I tell the motorcycle driver to take us to a place called "Full Love Inn". LOL. Short term room was nice and very cheap 250 THB. I put 2 sets of music which I know together are almost 3h. Sexually night was great and we were a great fit. We both cum close to the end of the second set just in time to return our room. We say our goodbyes, exchange LINEs, I tip him, and that ends this leg since morning time was my time to move on to the final leg. My beloved BKK.

One of the best threads I've ever read! Congratulations Alex. Brought a smile to my face as no doubt it did to yours...

And in a more serious manner, congratulations!

it never happened so far but I always say that my best encounter would be if I take guy just for hand holding session and on departure will ask him if he can come for the some in the afternoon. At end of day is whole guy who counts , not just his hole.

I must say I do not agree with the majority's opinion here. Yes, for me anal sex is fun and sometimes a crucial part of intercourse. But I had a lot of very pleasurable and intense sexual encounters that did not involve anal sex. But that is just me, I know some people just don't like it or prefer to avoid it. And I know a lot of people that cannot imagine a sexual encounter without it. But all of this does not matter, neither my opinion nor others'. You are the sole person who can answer that question.

Since the sharp drop of Western gays coming to Thailand the bars do not have choice but to adapt the Far East tourists preferences .

After many months of not going to Boyzboyzboyz because of the backless stools, I returned tonight after seeing chairs with backs. Boyzboyzboyz has been completely redone. The chairs were quite comfortable. The audience was about 95% Asian, with more women than men, but plenty of Asian guys too. The show now has one intermission, which is better than two on my last visit. Show was mostly good but less graphic, which apparently is preferred by the Chinese. Boyzboyzboyz is definitely a boy bar and definitely not a gay bar. Some gogo boys will only go with women!