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SInce the day i went to live to Brazil, I have been posting some regular detailed reports about the situation of Brazilian saunas. From now on I am going to provide the smallest amount of what i believe it is the most helpful information to let you decide where to go and when, and what you''ll fine in there. The reports are based on the last 3 months (Apr-June) RJ-117 (typically toned to muscular very good-looking guys, great facilities) - Best day is still tuesday (free suites). Monday closed. Saturdays, Sundays and Thursdays are still worth to visit (in this order). Fridays are hit or miss. Wednesdays are slow. RJ-202 (typycally a mixture between good-looking toned guys, and twinks, good facilities) - Best day is Wednesday (free suites). Tuesday closed. Friday (free suites) and Monday are worth a visit (in this order). Other days are slow RJ-NMM - Just forget SP-Lagoa (same description ad RJ-117, more model-looking guys, more gay looking guys) - Best day is Friday. Saturdays, Sundays and Wednesdays are IMHO worth a visit (in this order). Other days are slow SP-Fragata - Just skip BH-Olimpo - Cannot compare to other saunas because of the size. Hit or miss every day, but beautiful place where I always had at least one great encounter each day i went in there. PA-General - To me the sauna scene is dead in there....or at least on an halt.

Recently, I’ve been making a few comments about ex GoodBoys, now Dragon. It occurs to me that might skew people’s option about my usual escapades here. Since many posters here have given me/us such valuable information, I wanted to participate a bit. Also, not wanting anyone to think I spend ALL my time seeking sleeze (though I do spend virtually all my time seeking boys), I thought I’d make a very minor contribution with a few thoughts on this trip. I’m halfway though a one month stay. I come in high and low season. This is the lowest, low season I’ve experienced. My usual go-to gogo, Toyboys, has not had more than 4 or so boys on stage when I’ve peeked during this trip. Only a few more at Dreamboys. Cupidol usually, maybe 14 boys and about as many customers. Only two boys to my liking, so far. I offed both, not at the same time. I haven’t actually gone inside Winner Boys this trip. From the boys hanging around outside it looked like slim pickings, but I’m not sure. Sunee overall extremely quiet. Though I’m not showing up around there too much for the rest of the trip, as a boy I know all too well, who’s a real fixture there, has become very angry I’m not spending all my time with him. I find boy management quite difficult, as I like to go with many, and still have regular sleeping partners. It’s hard to have your cake and eat it too, I know. So now I’ve begun frequenting Jomtien complex, a bit more. It is mostly very, very quiet. I always stay at a condo in Jomtien. But I’ve never felt comfortable with the host bar business model there. I feel like it’s a reverse gogo bar: instead of the boys being on display, I feel like I’m on display. They chose me, or not, vs gogo bar where I chose them, pretty much. But I am pleased to report that this trip I’ve offed some great boys from Jomtien C, all from @Homebar. Some of the most handsome boys with sculpted swimmer bodies I’ve ever been with (two of them work their parent’s rice fields and it shows!) . Just goes to show, it pays to branch out and diversify a bit. On the other hand, I find the apps difficult. Over the years I’ve met some keepers, mainly on Hornet & Grindr, who’ve.become regulars. But more times than not, I don’t see anyone who’s appealing to me and when I do meet them, even less appealing. Interestingly, I noted this trip one stunning, muscle boy from Grindr would not even consider taking less than 2000B ST in December and was fairly rude about it. This time, he had new photos and I didn’t realize it was him at first. I said "Hi" and then HE offered 1000B as the opener! Times are slow, even for the muscle boys (not usually my type, but I certainly make an exception for him).

I've been away on a project for the last several days and have only now caught up with this topic. More than a few years back, I moved from one address to another. In the process, I found a cache of photos from more than a decade earlier. Looking at them I found that they did not match my memories. The reality of the photos was much less than the joyful memories. Fortunately, I've decided that I'll stop taking photos, except when they are of a boy I've met...I'll keep the memories, suspecting they might not be completely accurate. My hope is continue creating new memories to add to those from the mid 90s and the 2000s.

I don't think the Thai boys only policy has anything to do with xenophobia. More likely it has to do with raids by the immigration authority who can cause problems for bars if they employ foreign workers.

The Chinese are keeping the BOY bars in business. The older gay farangs are few and far between. Panorama was in death throes for a long time before closing as their customer base dried up. Many nights Panorama had no customers. The day of the older gay farang has passed. As an older gay farang, I’m thrilled that the Chinese Women and men are keeping the boy bars busy and staying open. I’m seeing more gay Chinese men as well this year.

Day 0.5: Preparation 1. AirBNB Recommendations One thing that stayed in my head from my December trip to Salvador, where I hung out with @Latbear4blk for the first time, sauna boys usually asked me where I stayed because they said that most hotels in Salvador did not allow guests to have visitors up to their rooms. While this only happened exactly once in my life (in Yangon, Myanmar - I was so disappointed, we had to do it in the hookup’s apartment), I believe @Latbear4blk was able to play with his boys in his hotel in Farol da Barra. Still, I had this in mind when I was booking Recife and Fortaleza accomodations. I never even thought about booking a hotel and just looked at AirBNB. Fortunately, most Brazil AirBNB’s allow visitors, because usually the unit is in an ordinary residential apartment building, where of course visitors are allowed, unless the AirBNB listing specifically says NO GUESTS. I stay away from these. And most nice apartment complexes in Brazil also had a pool, a gym (usually simple but serviceable), a parking spot and a 24 hours porter for security. When I look at an AirBNB listing, I check if the name of the apartment complex is mentioned, to do a quick Google search of the complex that tell you where it is exactly in relation to the beach, markets or shopping, what kind of facilities it has (some photos in the apartment’s website usually are available) etc. I asked the boyfriend as to where he wanted to stay in Recife, since he spent almost a year of his early 20s in Recife. He preferred to stay in the relatively safe and rich beach district of Boa Viagem. Looking at AirBNB for my dates, filtering for “pools”, “24 hour check in” and “gym” I was able to find way more than I could want. I put in “<$40 a day”, “1 bedroom or more” and the most important “kitchen” filter and found a more manegeable ~50 properties. I found several that didn’t specifically say “NO GUESTS”, and had the name of the property either in the listing or in one of the listing’s photos, looked at where the building was in Boa Viagem, and narrowed it down to 3. I let the BF choose which he liked. He chose the property that had a big kitchen, 2 bedrooms and baths and nice faciltiies. It was going to be our home for a week. As for dates, it was a little bit tricky. If you look at my dates in the previous post, I will arrive at 7 AM in Recife, and leave at 2:30 AM. So I book dates starting with the night before I arrive, so I can check in early the next day (making sure the place has 24 hour check-in, I checked), and then check out will be the day I leave. For Fortaleza, it was less clear to me where to stay. I did not intend to have the BF go with me in the tiny 24 hour connection I had before flying back to Miami. So I did a similar search for Fortaleza like I did above, and found a lot of nice properties along Beira Mar Avenue (along the beach) in the Meireles district of Fortaleza. Google maps showed that there were also a lot of hotels near the properties I looked at, telling me that the area was touristy. So I just book a place that looked nice and had my requirements (no NO GUESTS for example). Since I arrived in Fortaleza at 3:20 AM, I had to book dates starting the night before, and the next night as well, even if I was only going to stay for 24 hours. But for a total 2-day stay for $71, it hardly mattered that I was booking 2 nights. Was I right with my choices of habitation? Stay tuned. 2. My Choice of Companion I do not go to Brazil to look for a boyfriend. So it’s strange that I always have one. I am a very good solo traveler, but I do not like to be alone when I get to my destination. In past Brazil sex vacations I’ve tried a week of just going at it alone, and just subsisting on free Grindr hook-ups, sauna visits and paid dates with site boys, but invariably, almost alway, my experience turns into inviting some old (and new) friends to the apartment and just letting the magic of Brazil run its course. I would get less sex probably this way than if I do it the other way, but Brazil does have a way of giving you what you really need instead of what you want. In my case it was friendship and companionship, as well as a view of the culture not readily available to tourists (not to mention my Portuguese fluency gowing leaps and bounds with every trip), instead of just sex and checking off tourist spots. I find that once you get to know people well in an area, it is inevitable that one finds a companion, a boyfriend, that matches your own needs and quirks. I long stopped fighting the urge to pair up and just went with the flow. I really think that I open myself up to be boyfriends with Brazilians precisely because it is not a huge commitment: I get the benefits of having a relationship (love! sex! companionship!); I still get to live my life in California, and ultimately, and this is important, it never ultimately works out because of a myriad of things (infidelity! fights and disagreements! distance!). When I booked this trip I was dating this beautiful, worked out, green-eyed, 27 year old Mineiro who lives in Rio. He was a very popular Garoto de Programa who was able to get himself out of the sex trade by saving enough to buy a car and motorcycle, and then became a motoboy, at a favela and a sometimes Uber driver (only on busy holidays and festivals). We started dating late last year, and he also started being friends with my friends in Sao Paulo. I’d visit him monthly, sometimes twice a month (did I mention he was beautiful?). Things were hot and heavy the first few months and then it got a little weird the last month. I then got a harried Whatsapp message from his girlfriend(!), who found out about me while she snooped in his phone. Turns out he started dating her a month prior, and she had no clue I even existed. I sent her messages (prints) to the Mineiro, and afterwards, the inevitable drama, crying, explanations followed. He told me he was pressured to have a girlfriend after his sister found a photo of him and me together, being lovey dovey, in a friend’s facebook. So he had to deny this to his family and pretend to date a girlfriend to quash the gay rumors. Whatever. This was exactly what I thought would happen (in one form or another). I never really hoped that any of my relationships here would last, so this was the perfect time for me to bow out. I bid him goodbye but he didn’t accept it. I blocked him on Whatsapp and he messages me on Facebook, then Instagram. After all those blocked he texts me on iMessage. It took me about a week of this back on forth to finally get him to admit defeat. He also lost my friends in the process. I really liked the guy and maybe the relationship was going to work, but the promise of single life and being able to Grindr and sauna in peace has taken over me once I was given the opening. And just when I was planning to fully take a huge juicy bite of the single-life apple, I met another former Garoto de Programa to become boyfriends with. Sigh. Yes he is also beautiful, worked out, blah blah, everything you need out of a seemingly genetically engineered Brasileiro. I met him in March, been boyfriends ever since. A month before this trip I bought him tickets to meet me in Recife. I carved some alone time (not enough, but some) to hunt on my own. We shall see what happens with that. 3. The Journey to Recife I was looking forward to spending time with the BF in the Northeast, since I’ve only hung out with him in Rio, SP and his home state of Santa Catarina. But I also, at the very least, wanted to carve out solo time for myself, to hunt either on Grindr or the saunas. This is THE constant stuggle of my life actually, the push and pull between how awesome being in a relationship with a sexy, interesting and amazing man, and the freedom, wonder and intensity of meeting new pople. The struggle is finding a good balance of both. Ultimately I fail, but the fun is in the trying. My first attempt at balance: I wanted to see the BF on my very first day (I missed him!), but booked his flight to arrive later in the day (early evening) than my own arrival, enabling me to at least get some hours of rest and hunting. No sauna time possible the first day, but a week before my trip, I did a GPS spoof with Grindr and found a massive treasure trove of boys who were interested. This was promising. Weather forecasts for the week showed sunny conditions during the day and some showers at night. Since it was “winter” in Brazil, and the Northeast, the temperatures were a little bit cooler than summer, so it was looking good. Which meant packing mostly tank tops, shorts, and flip flops, with the odd t-shirts and pants for date nights. Ordered my usual suite of travel sized items, including 5 cans of spray sun block, which I found came in handy in Brazil, since the stuff they sell in the beaches are easily 5 times more expensive, and in drugstores at least 3 times more. Once I got to Miami I flung my way across Miami airport to get to Terminal J, which was at the very end of the South Terminal. Here is where I am thankful for my status in American Airlines: despite the very cheap economy fare in LATAM, I was able to reserve a seat (window), line up to LATAM’s priority check in, spend time in LATAM’s lounge in Miami (where there was a Copa America Quarterfinal match between Chile – Colombia watched by very lively Chilean passengers waiting for their flight to Santiago), and get priority boarding (Group 2). Once on board, I see the usual old and tired LATAM décor and colors, but fairly dependable and benign anyway. Leg room was reasonable, but found out that the flight was not full (maybe ¾ full), and therefore the seats at the back (where I was) had passengers, including me, who had the whole row to themselves. After takeoff and getting to cruising altitude, I took off my seat belt and laid flat on my whole row. I didn’t bother waiting for dinner or breakfast, knowing that LATAM’s dining offerings were not worth the giving up the extra minutes (hours) of shut-eye I will need. If I was going to spend 12 hours alone in Recife before the BF arrives, I better have all the energy I can muster. This is my 13th trip to Brazil, and by this time I know very well that rest (more than money) is the most important thing to have in abundance. Recife immigration was pretty quick and hassle free, and I actually had a nice conversation with the officer, in English. He made some remark about my passport, because it was full of Brazilian entry and exit stamps. I usually had my stock response ready (one that was fairly benign and safe), but I was excited to start my Recife adventure. So I told him the truth: that I was going to spend a week with my boyfriend who was from SC. He laughed, and found this amusing, and gave me some tips on where to go and what to do. “Bom trabalho,” I said, wishing him well with the rest of his shift. He winked, and said “I’ll see you soon.” Not sure if that was a threat or a an invitation. I zipped through customs, and the classic welcome sign greeted me: Two other things I do that is almost second nature to me by now when traveling to Brazil. (1) One was buy bottled water at the airport upon arriving. If I was going to hit the ground running, I won’t waste time looking for the basics necessities on the first day, and while I had everything I needed in my luggage (condoms, lube), not all apartments had drinking water in the fridges. If I was gonna have sex marathons, water is usually required in breaks to refresh one’s body after exchanging fluids with strangers. The other thing is to (2) get Brazilian Reals at the Banco 24 Horas. I’ve always just used my Charles Schwab ATM that was ATM fee free, international transaction fee free, and had competitive exchange rates in Brazil. The challenge was to find ATMs in Brazil that would accept them. It works *sometimes* with the big Brazilian banks like Bradesco and Banco do Brasil, but *always* at Banco 24 Horas ATMs. Again, I don't want to waste time looking for this ATM in the city, while I could be just getting laid. Airports usually had them, and Recife airport was no different. 1000 reals to start the vacation: Next up, it was a cum 4 times a day kind of day…

I'm pretty sure that then there were guys who were complaining how good it was in 1985. I'm not trying to be sarcastic but nostalgia for good times past seems to be recurring theme on gay forums and can't help but wonder if we really missed those good old days or rather our good younger years and more disposable income. No doubt scene changed and shrunk but for one's need we still have plenty of entertainment on our disposal . perhaps more than we can digest during 2-3 weeks vacations

for what it is worth, i don’t think it will succeed until or if the Brasilian economy improves! Remember “Foreign clients make up a very small % of their total Revenues. it is the local over 45yr olds+ that are the bread and butter of the saunas. Of all of them 117 is in the best economic position because she “owns” the building and has a millionaire Argentinian Husband!(at least that’s what we are told), Having been coming here for 18 years and seeing saunas come and go and go from hot to cold, it does boil down to the boys! Junior has terrible repore with many of them! Acir has much bette relations with many of them so if the boys can make the same or better money they will switch! ihave seen this several times! point has almost closed several times over the years, now the last 2 years it is doing better! bottom line it is out of our hands, so grab a bag of popcorn and see how it goes! we may be surprised! i remember when Acir and Jorge bought Meo Mundo in 2006 and we all said Why? (me being one of the biggest critics!) no one will go there and they had a successful 10 year run! I was wrong! you might be too! :-)

Great reports @Latbear4blk Thank you!

That's all true. I love my three visits a year to Pattaya but I'm not certain I'd be quite so excited by the prospect if I wasn't in a ltr. Observing the bar-scene from outside, I'm not impressed. Nevertheless, there have been improvements since my first visit. 1) Apps ensure that sanuk is available twenty-four hours a day 2) The range of restaurants is astonishing. The new Terminus 21 alone could keep a tourist sated for three weeks 3) The malls can provide a respite to the heat during the daytime. 4) Issues relating to underage sex seem to have disappeared. 5) More flights are available to and from Bangkok, both international and domestic. And perhaps surprisingly, those flights are not much more expensive than when I first came in 1995 while the cost of hotels and restaurants , not to mention company, has remained pretty stable.

There is no doubt that the gay scene has shrunk in the last few years - that is quite plain from the closed bars in BT and Sunee and the trend for OUR beach to become less gay. The obvious reason is that Thailand is no longer inexpensive with the large increase in the value of the baht. When I discovered Pattaya 20 years ago I got 70 baht for £1.00 and usually paid boys 1000 for a night in my bed ie around £13 - the same boy would cost maybe 2000 at 40 ie £50 today. Thailand has changed and there are far more opportunities for young guys than working in the rice fields. But I very much agree with Vinapu that Thailand and Pattaya in particular is still a great place for a gay tourist, like myself, on a two/three week holiday who is attracted to Asian boys. Of course many gays come to Thailand with partners or are not sex tourists and do not frequent the bars.

And 117 did not have a second chance because I ended going to 202 again. But let's start by the beginning. Diego came over this morning to spend the day together. We had talked about going to Ipanema, but ended doing something different. He has been so fantastic, and made such a difference in this trip, that I wanted to reward him. And of course the problem is, how. Cash? We had talk about me sending him a cheap phone once back to the States. His phone was stolen in a sauna, and Diego has been out of the grid for some time now. Imagine a GP without a smart phone. Not even a GP, imagine any Millennial without a phone. When he walked in, he was very excited and happy because had finally obtained his Carta de Travalho. It was a document he needed to start playing soccer professionally and make R$ 1,000 monthly. He came in sharing the good news, hugging me and kissing me out of excitement. Imagine his face when I asked him what telephone he wanted. He could not believe it, kissed me again, and started to jump around happy for all the good things happening to him today. We got on line to check phones and decided to change our plans for the day. Instead of going to Ipanema, we would go to AquaRio with a stop in Rio Sul, a big shopping center, to buy his new phone. He had never been in the aquarium and the prospect added even more excitement to his day. It was immensely gratifying to be now the one giving and making a difference in his life. Once in the shopping, he chose a Galaxy at R 1,200. Which is a fraction of the money I am able to save each month. For less than half of my monthly savings, I was able to make a difference in Diego's life. Once with his new phone, we headed to the aquarium. Diego had been very careful about picking a phone with a good camera, and was very excited to use it for the first time in AquaRio. I liked the installation for itself, but it was an additional pleasure to have Diego over excited like a little kid with his new phone and this field trip. The aquarium is relatively new, privately own, and with relatively expensive tickets. The museums I visited charged R10, the aquarium was R100, because we got the discount for Mercosul citizens. This was the biggest aquarium I ever visited (I never went to the ones in Baltimore and Florida) and really enjoyed the experience. After the aquarium, we returned to my Airbnb. We wanted the last afternoon together to be "tranquilo". There still was some excellent weed left overs, we ordered a delicious local pizza, and hang out while waiting for the delivery. Once the pizza arrived and we ate, it was time for "sexo". Diego was more demonstrative than ever before out of happiness and gratitude. He commanded me to bed (he had being consistently very demanding about having sex even more than once in a day), we got naked and started to make out passionately. After a while, he turned around and gave me his back in position to get fucked. I kept kissing, licking, and hugging him, but did not try to fuck him. He turned from being laying on his left side to be fully face sown, and pushed me on top of him. I let my hard dick go in between his thighs, like faking a penetration, but he wanted more. So I stopped the whole thing, moved to his side, and told him very clearly "I do no want to fuck you". I reminded him of a conversation we had already have, where I explained to him that my pleasure comes from my partner's pleasure. Self-sacrifice is a huge turn off for me. Diego hugged me and kissed me more, and told me that I was the best. After kissing me for a while, he pushed me to his right nipple and started to jerk off while I licked and sucked it. I alternated between kissing and licking his nipple while he played with edging for a while. This was actually the best sex we had, he was finally relaxing and allowing me to please him instead of vice versa. He busted first, then I followed, and we fell asleep. I do not like sleeping with anyone in my bed, it is one of the reasons why I do not do overnights. I do not like waking up and not being alone. But we both fell asleep and slept for a while. When we wake up, it was almost time to go to the sauna. Here we had another change of plans. I wanted to go to 117 because the thread about Brazilian Saunas has a table that recommends it as the best option for Fridays. However, Diego insisted that the info was wrong, that the best place to go to was Pointe because there was a show and the cabins were for free. Fortunately, I listened to him, because tonight I am reconciled with saunas. From the very beginning Pointe felt great, very animated and friendly, with more boys than clients. We arrived about 8pm, and sat in a table to check the crowd. I got immediately infatuated with a dark chocolate boy. I asked Diego wether or not he knew the guy, and he told me that he knew him and he was "boa gente". After hanging out for 20' (always making out), Diego went to change clothing to start hunting for a programa. As soon as he left, I made eye contact with the pretinho and he came to sit with me, gorgeous beautiful. His name was Marcelo, from Bahia, 23 años. He told me he was versatile and into kissing, and immediately demonstrated his kissing skills. His fee was 150 (I know, I could have negotiated it down). He wanted me to look for a room, but I wanted to see the show first. So he left to go to the sauna. After 10 minutes returned because the sauna was too crowded, he said. The show was not starting and, when we asked, we were told that there was a delay, so we got one of the suites. Once in the suite, he got quickly naked and show me a huge dick in full hard. However, he would avoid kissing me, and therefore I would not get hard. I reminded him that he told me he was into kissing, but he ignored my complains and started to suck my dick and jerk me off trying to make me hard. I insisted that I wanted and needed kissing. So he stopped and told me he was not going to do it. I gave him R50, and a goodbye. Bad beginning for the night. I returned to the bar. There were a few guys I was interested in, but I was not making eye contact. Until finally a short black guy, with a smooth athletic body and a delicious mischievous face came to me. His name was Luiz, Carioca, 22 years old. As soon as I told him that I was into kissing, he started kissing me like the world was going to end. His price was 130, I promised him 150 if he made me happy. The boy was amazing, the first time I had excellent sex in a sauna. He made me feel wanted ad took my dick like a champ hard, deep, and long. We had not discussed busting, but we busted almost together, first I did it inside of him, then was his turn. After busting we kept hugging and making out, traded WhatsApp numbers, and agreed on a possible date for tomorrow afternoon. He earned his 150. Happy with the turn of events, I returned to the bar to see if there was still fishable material. I saw a guy I had seen to days before and liked a lot. Black, tall, athletic, with a very pretty and boyish face. We locked eyes and started talking. His name was Louis, also from Bahia (I am surrounded by bahianos), and versatile, but not into kissing. Bad luck. When I was almost ready to go, I saw Jonathan. 19 y.o., from Sao Paulo, visiting Rio. I do not have to describe him because I have a picture and his vivalocal link, let's hope it works: https://m.vivalocal.com/acompanhantes-gays/copacabana/com-local---/183904068 He looks now like the picture I am posting here, the ones in his ad are outdated on his hair. We quickly established compatibility, made out in the bar for about 15' while I was recovering from my session with Luiz, and went to a suite. Another excellent experience. We also traded numbers and agreed on a possible meeting tomorrow. I am fantasizing with getting these two kids together to my airbnb if I can coordinate times. Happy and exhausted I returned to my nest and decided to write this report before going to sleep. Tomorrow is my last full day and night and want to be doing something else. Tomorrow night I wanted to go to 117, but Luiz, Jonathan, and Diego are going to 202. Let's see.

Thanks for the update on your journey. The last part greatly interest me haha. Muscle boy asking 1k only, thats low season force at work alright.

The mattresses, that were tired when I stayed there on my first trip in 2002, are being carted out as I write.

I have very recent although not Thai related story to back you up. Last weekend school friend visited me and it was our reunion after almost 40 years so lots of catching of old times and old friends was to be done . Subject came to vacation of 1978 we spent together with few other friends and he said ' I remember when we were on the bus from A to B and J was beaten by drunk passenger " of course I remember but it was on the bus from C to D, not A to B, said I. He was adamant but I had solution, journal of that vacation in my attic. So I dug it and pronto : written by my own hand that memorable day "on the bus from A to B, J was hit in the face by the drunk" I was ready to bet thousands that it was C to D , so much about memory.

You may be right in your suspicions but not necessarily so . While in real life there are free lunches certainly you are not in financial position to extract one from that boy so yes pay him up and tell him to save that money, whether he will listen is another story and not your problem.I'd pay at end of your time together but make sure you put money for that aside daily so you will not run out of funds. My experience is mixed. Once I took Bangkok boy to Pattaya for few days at his request and all he wanted is to pay off fee to his bar and expenses while in Pattaya. He kept his side of bargain and did not request me to buy him anything costly . At end of trip I gave him my long time rate for each day we were together and he was clearly reluctant to take it but eventually several kisses and few tears later he did, certainly he earned it. I was so moved by him sticking to his word that made mistake of giving him my e-mail to keep in touch. After few of ' how are you , missing you every day type" requests for loans or give aways started and not even in small amounts, complete with account number and instructions how to do it. But I stand my stingy ground. Next time I visited his bar he created kind of scene that I offed other boy , not him and this is where things between us ended. Never heard from him again so I assume he was more upset with me than I with his antics. Other case was completely opposite , I spent few days and night with Cambodian in Siem Reap and gave him my e-mail as well . We exchanged several before things silenced out but never got even smallest hint that he wants anything from me. Whether he was not brave enough to ask or he landed some regular job and decided to leave his MB past behind him by cutting all ties to former life out I will never know. It's why I say be careful but not paranoid , a lot of those boys are truly generous even if they don't have much to share so they share what they have.

I have engaged a Columbian from Bogotá the last 2 days at the Thermas in Barcelona. If he is typical of Colombians I can understand the enthusiasm for the place.

This point is definitely a very positive change, and i hope itll continue to be. Wish the same can be said for the rest of the world too.

I wish I can agree with you but I don't. Years ago Pattaya have had 4 gay complexes Day Night coplex vanished,Sunee Plaza is bleeding( I doubt it can survive if the business will not improve soon),Boyz Town is very quiet only Jomtien complex is doing well at the moment. Dongtan beach was almost exclusively gay oriented with many young Thai boys seeking for clients and male masseurs doing massage on the beach and keeping you company but not anymore. Years ago quality and quantity of the boys was much bigger and their services were much cheaper. In the past Pattaya was gay heaven I could easily stay there weeks but sadly the gay scene shrinked badly and at my last trip last year after one week became bored this is why in my next trip planning to visit nearby places like Ko Samet , Kanchanaburi and Hua Hin. However Thailand is still my favourite destination in the world the low leaving costs,the gay friendly atmosphere and the kindness of the Thai people make it wonderful experience for me every time I come.

vinapu makes a valid point. Reminiscing about the good old days is fine, but what matters to me is now and the near future. There’s still plenty to enjoy and one can always have memories. I prefer to make new memories and enjoy the present.

I agree with J. Sunee Plaza extremely quiet. Last night I was in Jomtien Complex and surprised how quiet it. I had a good time in massage shop followed by drinks with two friendly lads at Cockatoo. Nai and Pong aka Boy a pleasure to know and have a drink with. A few night ago, I was surprised to see only 2 boys on stage at Toy Boys in Boyztown. Only difference from J. was in Dream Boys, where I counted 15 gogo boys on stage. Only 2 customers, my friend and me. I had a drink with Yut, delightful older gogo boy with fair command of English.

I guess I must be completely naive! I have owned my own condo in Bangkok since before I first got the annual retirement visa a dozen or so years ago. Like anddy, I fly out of Thailand at least once every two months. Accordingly in all the years I have lived in Thailand I have never once had to do a 90 day report. Now this TM 30 nonsense. When I arrive back in Thailand, I fill out an Immigration form. This gives Immigration my full condo address, my email and my phone number. This quickly gets inserted into Immigration computers. On arrival, I immediately go to my home. The only reason I would leave home when in Thailand is go to another part of the country. I always stay in hotels which will then report my dates to Immigration and that information will go into my file. (The only exception is every second year when I stay with friends in their home for 3 or 4 days. In that case it is their obligation to make a report.) Immigration already has all my condo details from the annual visa extension exercise. So Immigration has on its computer system precise details of everywhere I stay in Thailand. Yet now I am supposed to add to the bureaucracy and fill in a ridiculous TM 30 form every time I get back home from BKK over a dozen times a year - even though Immigration has all that detail. This whole nonsense is just part of the policy initiated last year to weed out those who cheat the system, the foreigners who live on less than 65K baht monthly, the crook agents and especially the crook immigration officers who hand out visas in return for dollops of bribes. Now it is seemingly to weed out those who rent properties. As a guest in this country, I understand completely the desire of the authorities to get rid of those who break the rules. What really pisses me off no end is that instead of developing a way to focus on the root cause of their problems - those crook Immigration officers - the new regulations are specifically designed to hit absolutely every non-Thai. The tens of thousands who have always played by the rules are all caught up in a new or tightened up bureaucratic net.

The cities are much safer in Colombia than Brazil.

IMHO this sauna will have a hard time as MH21 had, as it's short lived successor. Big expectations and huge, expensive facilities have usually turned out to be disappointing. My last visit to MH was to say hello to Acyr....there was no one inside. The opening date got postponed....still no traces of "propaganda" (Advertising). I hope that Acyr (and Jamie) will not do the same mistakes. The big question for me is (which is a recurring one among my brazilian friends and the boys to who i usually like to talk to) which kind of guys will it attract? Will they be 117-type? I doubt it, the kind of GP which goes to 117 (and maybe 202), is the kind who get used to the same old place where they never run into any problem and where the customers (especially the international ones) have always been for the last 20 years. Will it attract AAA guys who can afford to work 100% or their time (or something very close to 100%) using the internet? I doubt it....why would they need to do that. WIll it attract MM-like guys? Probably yes...as MH did. The nextdoor guy, is not the type of boy I like. And I believe that statistically this will exclude a vast majority of the sexual tourists who comes to Brazil to have sex with beautiful guys for 30 bucks. Not with the nextdoor twink (as i said...the majority) Probably a few of the guys at 202 will drop Junior for a combination of reasons...but I'd not bet more than.a $10 bill on the success of this new sauna. It's not easy, even assuming that 117 and 202 will not modify their schedule to compete against LC. "Propaganda" needs money, to make propaganda you need promotions, which need more money.

don't go by ethnic origins , go by what you see and your heart beat, passport is irrelevant , how they look and perform is what we should care. I happened to have always good luck with Lao but I credit exactly that - luck , not their nationality. Lots of great Viets in Bkk to sample although Pattaya seems not to be that popular with them.

I see there are more and more positive reviews for Vietnamese boys , I think will try one an my next trip .

Yesterday, after Wagner, I was exhausted. I have been planning a walking excursion to the beaches in Copacabana and Ipanema that is always being postponed. I canceled it for the second time. Although I needed a nap, I wanted to catch up with my writing, I am so behind. I am working in a new post for my blog that should have been published last Tuesday. By the way, if you guys have not seen Rhyheim Shabazz and Jay Alexander last scene, you are missing something. When I am back to working, brribrrip, Grindr again. A pretinho very sexy offering me a program for R100. He was so sexy that made me horny again, even sent me a video playing like a puppy with his dick hard. I was in. We set an appointment at 5 (it was noon), I would text him at 4 to confirm. I tried to keep writing but I was too sleepy and now had an extra motivation to rest and recover strength. I took a nap. At 4 I text him to his WhatsApp to confirm. He responds it is ok. At 4:30 he texts me he is on his way. According to Grindr, he is 12 miles away. At 5:30 there is no sign of him. So I use the translator and text a joke: "Brazilians' only flaw, besides Bolsonaro, is that they are never on time", adding a big smily to make clear is a joke. He did not like it, and responds that he was having lunch with his family when I texted at 4 (an earlier agreed confirmation time), and asking if I wanted him to turn around and go back to his home. This reaction was a yellow flag for me. He would be the only guy I was inviting to my place without being recommended by a third party. His reaction made me quite distrustful. I asked him what was his estimated time for arriving. He would be arriving at 6:15 for an appointment at 5. I canceled. It was not a big deal, I wanted to have some energies for my first visit to 117. As I was frustrated with my saunas experiences, I decided to do some homework. I reread the thread Brazilian Saunas. I had read it three years ago, when I started fantasizing about traveling to Brazil. Now, with four Brazilian saunas in my background, I was impressed at how accurate, detailed, and useful @Tomcal posts were. After the reading, I head to 117, the best sauna to go on a Thursday according to a table posted in page 5 of that thread. I arrived about 7:15, sat in the bar after a walk around, and summoned the spirits of @Tomcal, @Tartegogo, and @numazu1. Actually, I just texted with numazu who calmed my natural anxiety and helped me to relax. If this was one of the popular days, I was underwhelmed. Many boys but not so many clients, the place looked semi empty. Many gorgeous boys seemed to be more interested in watching porn in their phones than in paying attention to the clients. Sitting in my table I rejected about 2 bodybuilders and 2 guys in their thirties. Out of the crowd of hot boys, I had selected about three I was interested in, but they were ignoring me. How did they dare. Finally, one of them made eye contact and came to my table. Edouardo, 23 y.o., from Niteroi. He works during the day in a street post selling burgers and street food with his aunt and his big brother. Tall, broad shoulders, beautiful muscular arms and huge butts and dick. I asked him whether he liked women, as I am tired of bad sex with "straight" G4P boys. His response was "women are difficult". Point for him. He insisted on going to a suite. As I still had fresh in my memory Tomcal's anecdotes, I told him that I wanted to kiss with several boys and would choose the one who kissed me the best. Edouardo asked me how I would determine that, and we immediately started kissing. Damn he was good, of course, as most Brazilians, and his dick got immediately hard without playing with it. It was a little weird that when he was sitting with me, he was less attractive than when I would look at him from some distance. So I kept sending him to the counter to get drinks and contemplated his beauty. The other boys I wanted seemed to be busy, it was early, so I took the programa with him. When I asked his price, he told me 150. I know that means I could have had him for 100, but I feel bad paying so little, 150 is my price to go. The suite was very roomy, much better than the one I got in 202. We did not waste time, as soon as we closed the door, we started to make out passionately. He was the first sauna GP that did not need to clean his ass for me. He was ready to bottom, a very good sign. He did well, the first sauna GP I fuck and I feel he is enjoying it and not doing me a favor. An additional extra good point for him: I do not even know whether or not the room had a TV to play porn, he did not need it, and made me feel he was actually into me. I would not say this was excellent sex, but was good, the best I had so far in the sauna setting. He asked me if I wanted him to cum, but I told him he could save it for other programas, it was just 8, and I busted jerking off and kissing him once I pulled out after fucking him in a couple of positions. When we finished I payed him (I was not using the locker) , freed him and the room, and went back to the bar to see if I was lucky and could get another one. The two boys that would worth a second fuck were with clients, so I finished my drink and went back home. I think I like more 202. Please, notice I have been very few times (once in 117 and twice in 202) in these saunas to have a strong opinion. I am sharing just my initial impression. I prefer 202 layout although 117 seems to have better quality facilities. I like that the boys in 202 seem to concentrate in the downstairs bar making it easier to see the offer, while the guys in 117 are spread all over the place and sometimes just flash through the bar without paying much attention to the folks hanging out over there. It looks like the guys in 117 are less in the Twink side and more in gym joke type, with many body builders. They also seem to come from a less challenged social background than the boys in 202. Something that definitively like more in 202 is that all the boys are working the clients, paying attention to you and trying to get a programa. In 117 at least half of the boys struck me as divas waiting for you to go to them. If possible, I will go again to 117 tonight (please anyone let me know if these are not the right choices) and my last night here, tomorrow Saturday, to 202. Let's see if that is enough to turn my impressions in strong opinions. Last night I slept like a baby. I was exhausted. Right now I am waiting for Diego, it is going to be our third day together. Hopefully we will go today to the beaches in Copacabana and Ipanema. By the way, I just remembered one of tomcat's comments about the sauna boys. He points out how affectionate they may be in private, as opposite to no public demonstrations of affection at all. This was true in my interaction with Marcelo back in December, in Salvador. However, it is not an accurate description in Diego's case. I am making this point not to argue with tomcal (I would not dare) but to highlight how special Diego is. When we are riding Uber around, he always makes sure his leg is strongly against mine, and holds my hand. He has also held my hand in public when we were having lunch in Praia de Grumari. See you all later.

Sauna Thermas is the rentboy sauna. It is on par with Club 117 in Rio and Thermas Lagoa in São Paulo, including the working boys. Sauna Casanova is the most popular non rentboy sauna wth the closest thing to some youthful club gym bodies you’ll find at a non rentboy sauna there.

I've noticed that my typos and mistakes have increased. Gladly, I am quite busy and writing in a rush. As my health is doing great in this trip, I do not have all the extra time I had in Salvador, when my back was acting up. Diego is a wonderful companion. Not only is 100% reliable and honest, but also very aware of budgets and look after me paying the best prices when we are going around. Yesterday he took me to Praia de Grumari (in some places it is called Praia de Abricó), about one hour and R$80 in Uber. The views are paradisiacal and it is a nudist beach. According to Diego, you must be naked on weekends, but nudity is optional during the week. After hanging up around we had a generous lunch in the beach restaurant, the most expensive check I had to pay so far, but eating and drinking with that view worths it. I am told you can easily have sex in the many discrete little corners in between the rocks. I was not looking for doing anything and just relaxed and enjoy the sun with Diego. A guy not far away from us was jerking off, I am not sure whether he was looking at Diego or at a group of women working in a nude photo shot. Here you have some pictures. Back in Rio in the afternoon, we relaxed at my place. As the sex he is able to give me is not what I am looking for, I was not really interested in doing anything, but Diego insisted that he wanted sex. He insisted a lot. So we played for a while, took a shower, and went to 202. It was a big night in the sauna, many GPs of all sizes and kinds. Surprisingly, the A/C was on and the feeling was very comfortable despite the crowd. There was a lot of people but not enough to make the place feel full. A beautiful drag performed a few songs lip singing and two strippers did a show. I loved the drag, I was underwhelmed by the strippers. Hot guys, one of them a very good dancer, but in my opinion they were not sexy performers. I made a mistake that is not helping my appreciation of saunas. Instead of following my guts like @numazu1 advises me, I went with a friends recommended by Diego. He was not able to take my dick. It was the day that cabins are free, and we had a long wait to go in. Once the fiasco sex was over, I felt like everyone was leaving and went home horny, frustrated, and hating saunas. I am better now and will keep trying. However, I must say that out of my several visits to the three saunas en Salvador, and my two visits to 202, I am only getting class C sex. My experiences with GPs out of saunas are much, much better. I am not ready yet to definitively judge that saunas are not for me, but I am close. Probably if I had more time to explore the offer and find the guys who truly enjoy bottoming, I would have a better outcome from my visits. I am not quitting yet. I went to sleep horny, and I woke up horny very early. My plan was devoting the morning to writing, but I was hit in Grindr by this: Wagner, carioca, 25 y.o., GP two blocks away from my place, R200 in calls, 250 outcalls. We quickly established compatibility and made the appointment. The guy was dynamite. Without reaching the highs of Italo, but indeed excellent outstanding sex. He may start publishing his escort services and you may have a full review in that case. We are planning a second meeting on Sunday. I have to check out at 10am and my flight departs at 9PM, so I will probably stopped by his very nice apartment for a last farewell. See you all later.

I think the cute boy I offed in Tawan mentioned 2 me he is Lao, and he is hot in bed, no p*n*tr*t**n though, ha ha

Good things those mattresses can’t talk. Lol. Each one must have 30+ years of tales.

specially Lao as far as I'm concerned

Thais are being nationalistic, I think...4 me I'm already contented with Thai go go boys...but its also good when there are varieties like Vietnamese, Cambodians, Myanmar, Lao and even Indians...

Very true...just like me with Mr. Perfect Guy, lol...

...and I think they keep on changing the videos, oh well, its better 2 see him in action in person, haa haa...

Go 4 him!!!...but there are a lot of other hot boys there that its hard 2 select among them, lol...

No need to put labels on posters in reality we barely know If that would be true he didn't not put all those efforts to run his blog for benefit of all. Quite a few times when bar hopping with him I noticed he was warmly greeted by the boys so he must be doing something right? He just want to get best bang for his buck I guess.

I will, specially if Fiber will still be there as he kind of redeemed Prince in my eyes last October. LOL

I rent my home in Merida since I am only there two weeks every other month! It has worked great! I have property managers that take care of everything including meeting the renters when they arrive and depart, paying elect., Cable, water, pool cleaning, gardening for the equivalent of one day a month rental, and takes care of any problems as well as repairs needed.

And now guys, 2 conclude my report...that night, I visited again my most fave go go bar Dreamboy. Actually Mr. Perfect Guy told me will have a day-off at that day and he will not be jealous when I off Mr. Runner-up since they are friends. That's what I also like about him, its totally okay for him when I off another boy, just like Mr. Cute Cute Guy b4 in DB Soi Twilight since he is also supportive 2 his brothers...but of course he is still my most fave!!! Upon arrival, I asked Mr. Runner-up from the papasan who is setting-up a gym equipment infront of Dreamboy. He recognized me and told me 2 seat 1st while he called Mr. Runner-up. I was so excited (and horny, lol)!!! @ last, he came-out and he was really attractive 4 me...with his round, expressive eyes and long eyelashes, pointed nose and kissable lips which shows a pearly white teeth...and his gym-fit, white skin body filled with muscles and tattoos (except 4 the abs, as I told b4) which complements his overall look. Mr. Runner-up asked if okay, I said "yes, yes", then told me he will wear top...I like what he's wearing, only boxers, ha ha. I supposed he will also wear on his bottom, bcoz literally its just undies, he he. The papasan invited me 2 go inside 1st while waiting. He said Mr. Perfect Guy did not report that day, I guess he already knew I'll ask about him since he is my regular, haa haa. When Mr. Runner-up returned, I was stunned by his looks...he was wearing a semi-formal dress with long sleeves and slacks, that's quite a change. I said 2 him "ur so formal" and he smiled in response, omg, I love those sincere smile!!! I paid the off fee to the long-haired mamasan who also told me Mr. Perfect Guy did not report that day. I'm really associated 2 him, that's all I can say, lol, I miss him though. Then Mr. Runner-up and I walked 2 my hotel and we had a very nice and interesting conversation. I learned more about him and I love looking at his gorgeous face, especially when he smile. At last we arrived 2 my hotel and as soon as we go inside, I asked him if he needs anything and he said water so I get 1 from the fridge. After drinking, he stripped his clothes, WOW, I LIKE this!!! When he only wears his boxers, he asked me 2 strip. I LOVE looking on his muscles and tattoos and even ask him if I can touch it 2 which he agreed. While touching him, ahem, he undress me which excites me!!! Then, he left my undies as he pull down his boxers...WOWOW, he is UNCUT. In my sweetest voice I asked "can I touch it?" and he agrees with a smile. Tbh, I did not noticed that he's uncut during the show since he's wearing a condom at that time. I love touching it, with the head peeking in and out the foreskin. It already looks gigantic eventhough its still soft. He invited me 2 the shower and gave me a puzzled look why I'm covering my m*nh**d with my hand. I said "I'm shy" and he smiled, but actually I'm having a h*rd-*n already, haa haa. At the shower, he soaped my body while I also do the same, holding his gigantic, semi-erect, uncut m*nh**d and said 2 him "ur so BIG"...and he whispered 2 me " u 2", I think I blushed with what he said and got shy bcoz I'm fully erect, lol. I also love soaping his unshaved armpit, mmmmm, and his round, hard b*tt. He even said "baby, baby" as we rinse in the shower, woah, I like that, I hope he carries me, haa haa. After the shower, he dried myself with the towel and I also does the same with him. Then, we wrap the towel around our waist as we go to the bed. I asked him what he can and cannot do, idk why I asked, just 2 be sure? I think...but tbh, I want 2 grab him and give him a deep kiss, but of course I need 2 behave 1st, haa haa. Afterwards, I invited him 2 the mirror bcoz my s*x usually begins with muscle worship, as u all know by now. While he was infront of the mirror, and I'm on his back, I slowly run my hands 2 his muscles and touch his m*nh**d and j*rk it *ff. He starting 2 get fully erect now. I kissed and licked the back of His neck, his shoulders, his back, his b*tt (ch**ks only, lol), and even the back of his legs and thighs. God I love his muscular, tattooed body!!! Then I asked him 2 turn-around as I saw his back in the reflection, omg I love those round b*tt. I asked him 2 flex his arms which I kissed and licked, doing the same 2 his chests, nipples, abdominals, legs and thighs almost slapped in the face by his gigantic m*nh**d. I asked him to turn sideways as I stroked his m*nh**d feeling its hardness and gigantic size. I kneel down and d**pthr**t him immediately and starting to move it in and out my mouth. Then, I l*ck the head and run my tongue to its body, all the time seeing the bl*wj*b in the mirror. Then, I also l*ck*d his b*lls then continue to bj him. He was sooo BIG and LARGE!!! Then, we moved 2 the bed where he romanced me with his tongue and goatee which really tickles me, adding horniness to my body, starting with my neck, then chest and nipples and even my tummy. I asked him 2 stand-up in the bed so I can see the bj in the mirror and d**pthr**t him again. I gag as I do it...and bl*wj*b him again and at the same time m*st*rb*t*ng him. Omg, I love s*ck*ng him!!! And then, the moment I've been waiting for, he put a condom to my m*nh**d, and begin 2 move it up and down his mouth!!! God I love looking at his gorgeous face while he s*ck*d me with a condom. I'm gasping for my breath. I even asked if we can have 69 to which he agreed and we both turn sideways. We bl*wj*b each other and I can't believe this is happening, he looks more handsome as he did it 2 me!!! When I noticed he is getting tired with the bj, I asked him 4 a hj 2 each other. I removed the condom 2 my m*nh**d and put a lube 2 his hand and 2 my hand and str*k* our m*nh**d firmly and quickly. He even l*ck my nipples as he m*st*rb*t* me. I was sooo excited with the whole experience!!! When I still did not c*m, I asked him to stand-up in the bed and me his muscles while he j*rk-*ff. He flex his biceps and triceps then make his chest and abs hard while he str*k* his self. This was sooo intense looking on his muscles and tattoos I c*m and it sp*rt HARD. He smiled when he see it and then we showered together again, dried-up and paid him as soon as he wear his clothes which really made him smile. He hugged me and pointed his lips for a smack, WOWOW, I finally kissed him, lol...then hugged him again as we said goodbye!!! After Mr. Runner-up left the room and I wear my clothes, Mr. Perfect Guy called and we had a video chat...he is still my #1...<END OF REPORT>

I didn't know members could not reply to threads here. I have changed that. (I think)

I researched them for my trip to Rio. Their prices are significantly higher than the traditional airbnb. I ended renting a place in Copacabana in airbnb, at half of the lowest price offered in Misterbnb.

Day 0: The Setup So I can’t claim the term “newbie” anymore, as this would be my fourth trip to Brazil in 10 months. I do feel that I am not an expert yet, compared to some of you here. But I have gotten over my initial hang-ups with Brazil (dangerous, language barrier, samba overkill) and can honestly say that I am thoroughly comfortable with visiting the country and mixing it up with the locals. To clarify my three hang ups above: dangerous – I still think it is still pretty fucking dangerous, but one can manage the risks when one gets there; language barrier – Portuguese is still a difficult language to learn for me, but I am getting along faster than I thought I would at this stage; samba overkill – this has changed, it is now “funk” overkill, like what reggeaton is to Colombia. This trip was different from the three other Brazil trips I’ve had so far. Those other trips were planned well in advance, with fares bought many months beforehand, and hotels and AirBNBs booked before the good options were snatched away. This trip was spontaneous in comparison. Because of all the fun that was had on the previous trip, I just had to book the next trip as soon as I got home, and only 3 weeks before the actual start of the next trip. My usual preparation: 1. The journey, not the arrival, matters As one would expect, booking less than a month away from the start of the trip yielded far less trip deals ($1000 to $1500 RT) from California. So I buckled down and did a hybrid booking on two separate tickets: I cashed in 25,000 Avios points on my British Airways account from Miami to Sao Paulo on LATAM, and another 25,000 Avios points from Sao Paulo back to Miami, this time on American. And then I paid $350 for a roundtrip from California to get to Miami on American to hop on these Brazil flights. Since these bookings are separate tickets, there was always a danger of missing and losing flights if my first flight from and back to California was delayed. But $350 and 50,000 points were better than $1000 at this point. 2. Show me your friends and I’ll show you your future If you remember last trip, Diego, the garoto de programa who left me and my friends in a sauna for actual paying customers: After the trip I gave him the last 500 reals he needed for him to be able to leave his pimp, and he promised to stay with me (us) on my next trip. After I booked my flights, I confirmed with Diego, and Diego then asked me to buy him his tickets from Rio to Sao Paulo. $88 later, he was set, ready to stay in Sao Paulo with me (us) for 5 nights. As for other companions, Leo, the hairdresser extraordinaire, will be available to hang out with me again. He said he is contracted to work on a TV show the majority of the time I will be there, but will hang out when he can. Alex, Leo’s cousin who is a programmer, said he would be available for the whole time I am there, but will have to see if he can get time off. Hanging out with friends during a sex tourist trip is tricky. On the one hand having local friends can be advantageous with finding out where to go that’s beyond the tourist traps, help with the local language (though I’d rather learn the language too and having friends who speak for you is kind of a double edged sword), and filling out the time in between sauna trips (beaches! Nighclubs! Random orgies!). But traveling with friends meant having to get a consensus on what to do together. Which is like herding cats sometimes. 3. The sky’s the limit if you have a roof over your head With the flights reserved, there was the question of lodging. With my stay in Sao Paulo, I had options. Leo and Alexandre offered their homes up. Leo lived at a house near Guarulhos with his mother and pets. Alex lives in Tatuape, which is situated somewhat in between Guarulhos and Ave Paulista, so it was closer to the action. I tell them to decide for me with whom I’d stay. As we all talked about my week-long stay in Brazil, we determined that staying in Sao Paulo the whole time would be boring. Since Diego was flying back to Rio on Day 6, Alex and I thought that it would be good to also go to Rio the same day (same flight) to spend a few days there (sem Diego of course). So I booked an AirBNB in the middle of Ipanema and Copa (near Aproador), with a sofabed so Alex can stay there as well. AirBNB’s of a certain caliber (24 hour security, full kitchen, washer with gym and pool access) are still less than $50 a night, so not too bad. I paid for the AirBNB, as a thank you to Alex for letting me stay in his house. 4. Variety is the spice of life Finally, as much fun as my newfound friends were, I needed to mix it up. I wanted to see the other people I’ve met in Brasil in the past. So I enlisted the services of Thiago, my find in Belo Horizonte: When he has a break in studies, he tries to take the bus to either Rio or SP to work at the saunas there. While he has had a steady stable of customers in BH, he goes to the bigger cities at times if he needs more money and to mix it up. He stays with friends while in RJ or SP, and charges a little bit more for his programas than he would in the smaller and cheaper Belo Horizonte. He happened to be in Rio the same week I would be. So after my stay with Alex in Rio, I offered to fly Thiago to Sao Paulo from Rio to stay with me for my last night in Brazil this trip. He would take the bus from SP to BH from there in time to be home for his classes the next day. Our terms were simple: he won’t charge me anything to stay with me, in return he would be able to work at Lagoa, the sauna in Sao Paulo, at the same time I was in the sauna hiring boys. Seems like the perfect scenario to me: having someone available during all non-sauna hours, and during sauna hours, having the same person earn money while with me, while I sample for Brazilians. A win-win. No time for Gabriel this trip. I have moved on. So next up, the nightlife in Sao Paulo with Diego, Leo and Alex. Continue or no?

Well I do like them horse-hung LOL

no worries, you'd win the triple crown of slut

shrug.gif I mean, they might just be misinformed. The real reason, I think, was that we just wanted a reason to make fun of my friend, who may have a habit of hooking up with boys who are under 18. LOL you magnificent bastard. I DID have my feet bound as a kid /s. The sandwich was amazing. I wish I was having it now. The mortadela sandwich in Sao Paulo remains my favorite breakfast to have in SP. Hey there @HiThereAll. Awesome stories! I'd be curious to know what they'll charge you at Carretao. Report back if you do go.

Day 1-3: Sao Paulo State of Mind I am condensing the first non-sauna days in this post, because I think most people here prefer the sexy sauna bits anyway. But to others who also like the travel bits, here’s three days’ worth of Sao Paulo state. As the days grew closer to the actual trip, Leo, Alex and I were getting excited. They strongly suggested that we all should go to Sao Vicente, a coastal town by the Atlantic coast, about an hour and a half drive from the city of Sao Paulo. Alex was going to borrow his parent’s car and we would all chip in for an AirBNB for 3 nights. We found a nice two-bedroom just by the beach in the nearby city of Santos. There weren’t any GP saunas in the area (I think), but there were GPs that could be found on Hornet and Grindr (this is Brazil after all). I told my friends that it would be nice to at least have a companion (for sex, talks, whatever else) if Diego decided to flake out on me. So Leo, who is always trying to help, set his fake GPS thing to Sao Vicente and hunted for a few boys for me in case I was solo for the trip. It was important for him to find eye candy as well, because he likes filling his Instagram with pretty things. His findings, ranging from 150 reals for a sex session, to 500 reals per day: Boy 1: Boy 2: Boy 3: We go close to hiring this one, he was 400 reals a day: But the boys weren’t needed. On the day that I would arrive in Sao Paulo, Diego informed me and Leo, through Whatsapp, that he was about to board his Azul flight from Santos Dumont in Rio, to Guarulhos. I was also arriving at Guarulhos, and timed Diego’s flight to arrive the same time as mine did. When I landed I immediately turned my cellphone on, and then a flood of messages on Whatsapp came. Some from Leo and Alex, informing me that they were coming to pick me up, and Diego, sending me photos of his FIRST time on a plane (I didn’t know), all excited, as he made his way from Rio. Diego was already telling me it was the best trip of his life. And he hasn’t even made it to Sao Paulo yet. Immigration was surprisingly quick, as well as baggage arrival. I stepped out onto the arrivals area of Terminal 3 of Guarulhos looking all haggard and gross from the flight from Miami (and the previous flight the night before). Leo and Alex, looking all excited and… Brazilian (as in handsome, trim, and tan) were there waiting. They both greet me in Portuguese, and proceed to ask me how my flight was. It always takes me a day to fully adjust my brain to talking in a different language, since I am usually out of practice, so what came out of my mouth was a horrible garbled version of what my Portuguese usually sounds, and required constant repetition from the boys because what was coming out of my mouth was mostly unintelligible. I was whisked away to the parking garage and had my bags carried by both guys. Alex’s car was a Volkswagen sedan (the Virtus). We drove away and got to Terminal 2, where we saw Diego, looking all handsome in his crisp white shirt, slim jeans, and blond highlights, waiting for us at the curb. He was tanner than I remembered which made his green eyes pop out even more. He sees us and breaks out a million watt smile. I was so glad he came through. I am looking forward to spending more time with him. Our first stop was Leo’s house to have dinner with his mother. Lasagna was what was for dinner, as one would expect from a family with Italian roots. The mother was a fellow whore, and had stories of all the huge penises she has taken in the past. A shower for both Diego and I was next, and Diego wasted no time showing me how much he missed me as well. He had a tan line from where his sunga would be. It was hot. We were told by Leo and Alex to dress up comfortably but fashionably, which meant shorts and a nice t-shirt and shoes I guess. 1. No rest for the wicked: This first night, a Friday night, was really nice out, which for gays here usually meant going to the outdoor bars near Rua Frei Caneca, one of the gay streets in Sao Paulo. Alex parks at a nearby parking lot and then gets all of us cheap beers from a nearby market as we join the throngs of gays sipping beers, talking and flirting with each other. I got my Portuguese to a respectable level enough to not embarrass myself. Though I heard the word “gringo” uttered a few times to describe me: 2. From one gay bar to the next: At 1 AM we quit bar hopping in Sao Paulo, and after a stopover at McDonalds to get sundaes for the road (my treat) we drove straight down to Sao Vicente, the gay beach. The 1.5 hour drive to the beach town was not bad, though we did encounter fog in the last 20 minutes of our drive. We arrived at 2:45 AM, and apparently there was still a lot of gay socializing to be had. Alex stopped at a sandwich shop called Quiosque Ponto G, which is a pretty chill gay hotspot in Sao Vicente, and at this hour in the morning, it was still hopping with gays. https://www.facebook.com/quiosquepontoglsaovicente/ 3. Russian Dressing: Probably the main attraction of Quiosque Ponto G was not the gay clientele or the food or the drinks, it was this waiter: He got us our drink orders and seemed pretty shy and didn’t talk much. Leo was in love of course, and after the waiter left to get our drinks, was raving about how blue the waiter's eyes were. When the waiter comes back with our drinks, Leo was hell bent on talking to him to see what the waiter’s deal was. Leo was trying to flirt with the guy, but 10 seconds into their conversation everyone was wondering where the guy was from, because it was clear, from the long pauses he takes before answering our questions, that Portuguese wasn't his first language. People in our table (and everyone else within earshot) were speculating where he came from. The consensus of the people so far was that he was Venezualan. I asked the guy for him name. “Dmitri,” the guy answers, with the D sounding like how you say it in Portuguese. “Russo!” I shout out. “Voce e Russo!” He smiles and goes back to the counter to serve more drinks. Of course the guy was Russian. Those blue eyes, that blonde hair, impossibly smooth skin. Large powerful legs and blonde hair peppering his arms and legs. I wonder if he was a garoto de programa as well. We speculated about it all night. To this day, I wonder about it. I didn’t get a photo of him but got these from the FB page of Quiosque Ponto G. Photos don’t do him justice. He was just freakin' gorgeous. 4. Beaches with Bitches: We got home at 5 AM and slept till noon. Enough time to check out the beaches. First day went back to Sao Vicente to hang out at Ponto G (as in gay), and just stayed there basking in the sun and drank all day: Next day we ventured out all the way to Guaruja, which meant getting on a ferry with our car and crossing the water: Guaruja was a more well-off part of this area. Leo told me a lot about his childhood spent here with his family and this beach. Caipirinhas and finger food for lunch: For dinner and breakfast, everyone pitched in, and we cooked meals at the AirBNB. We did need a lot of food, since we had to feed all four of us plus all of our tricks: This eerily reminds me of a family outing. Maybe this is my family now. 5. Gays gays gays. Sao Vicente was widely known as the gay part of the area, and Santos, where our AirBNB was, was only 5 minutes away. It was 175 reals a night for a 2 bedroom with a spacious common area, and Leo, Alex and I split the three nights, so it was fair. Also Grindr predictably blew up, and it was full of free boys: And I never really knew how horny Brazilians are before I decided to spend a long weekend with a house full of them. Leo seemed to have a revolving door of tricks from Hornet. If he couldn’t do it in his and Alex’s bedroom, he would just do it in the living room. He didn’t care who saw. Which was fine by me. #pervert Alex, on the other hand, stuck to one boy he met on Day 2. But the pairing slightly crossed the line from what I was comfortable with. The age of consent in Brazil is what, 18? That’s what Leo and Diego told me. The boy Alex met may have been younger than that. The boy may have stayed over at our AirBNB. The boy and Alex may have bickered like an old married couple. It was a running joke the whole weekend. Leo and Diego teased Alex mercilessly about his choice, and that he may go to prison because the boy may be underage. Alex didn’t care. He may have been in love. At this point I could not say anything bad to Alex. I just played along. I wouldn’t be arrested because of this right? I wasn’t doing anything wrong? I really didn’t know the boy’s real age. He did seem a bit young. Oh well, moving on, before I get in trouble. 6. Speaking of old married couples, Diego and I were bonding pretty well. We took ownership of the bedroom that had the queen bed and adjoining bathroom, and made good use of the privacy this provided, in between bar visits and beach lounging. While I could have probably gotten some free tail from Grindr (just because the place was crawling with gays this weekend), I did not want to waste my time looking on my phone while on vacation. I was glad I had my guy there already, and all I had to do was relax and be with me, instead of being distracted about getting the next trip, which Leo was at times. And what I appreciated most about Diego is that he learned to speak Portuguese slower than he usually does, to help with my nascent Portuguese skills and American ears. Actually, Leo and Alex also got to enunciating their words and slowing down their speech cadence for me. At one point, all three got used to slow talking Portuguese that they started talking like this to other Brazilians. Hilarity ensues. On Monday morning at 2 AM, we needed to head back to the city of Sao Paulo. Leo and Alex both had work on Monday, so we all had to end our beach adventures. I offered to drive while Leo and Alex slept in the back. Diego kept me company on the passenger’s seat, not sleeping, but talking to me and singing along to the Spotify playlist I had on in the car, to keep me awake. When we got to the city, it was raining cats and dogs, but I got all of us safely to Alex’s condo building in Tatuape. We all took our luggage and situated ourselves at Alex’s place. Alex laid out a queen-size matress in the living room where he and Leo would sleep. He offered up his bedroom for me and Diego to sleep in. I told him we could just sleep on the mattress but Alex insisted since I was his guest. He gave me a set of keys to the apartment and told me help myself to anything in the house. Diego took a shower, asked me if I wanted sex (tomorrow, I tell him), went to bed and was out like a light. Alex was out too on the mattress. Leo and I stayed up talking till 5 AM. Then, Leo took a shower and then called an Uber to go to his work at a studio somewhere west of Paulista. No sleep for him. I take my own shower, and then snuggled next to Diego. Diego turns around to face me and spoons. He was big spoon. “To frio,” he says, saying that he was cold from the rain still going on outside. This was nice. Next, Diego and Leo, with me at Sauna Lagoa.